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Speaker 1: Well, that Trump Musk bromance has turned septic, hasn't it.

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Speaker 1: Musk says that Trump is in the Epstein files and

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Speaker 1: should be impeached. Trump says he's very disappointed in Musk,

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Speaker 1: and it's all a tante about the ev incentives. Now,

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Speaker 1: Charles Feldman is a journalist and a political analyst in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles and with us.

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Speaker 2: Now, Hey, Charles, Hey, how you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm well, thank you. Who's going to win this?

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Speaker 2: Well, that's a really good question, because here you have,

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Speaker 2: in effect a battle between arguably the most powerful politician

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Speaker 2: on the planet, the President of the United States, versus

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Speaker 2: the richest man on the planet, Elon Musk. So I

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Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not a betting man, so I won't bet,

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Speaker 2: but I do think that this is going to be

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Speaker 2: very interesting in the next few days.

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Speaker 3: Well, Trump should be worried, shouldn't he, Because Musk certainly

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Speaker 3: helped him to powers, So presumably Musk can rally just

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Speaker 3: as much of those resources and make his life hard.

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Speaker 3: Wiley's in power.

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Speaker 2: Well, they both have good reason to be concerned about

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Speaker 2: one another. And here's why. In a nutshell. Let's take

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Speaker 2: President Trump first. President Trump, You're right, he benefited to

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Speaker 2: the tune of about a quarter of a billion dollars

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Speaker 2: that Elon Musk pumped into Trump's campaign to reclaim the

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Speaker 2: White House. More importantly, Musk also helped finance a lot

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Speaker 2: of the campaigns for winning Republicans in the Senate and

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Speaker 2: in the House of Representatives. So if Musk disappears and

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Speaker 2: takes the money that he has with him, that is

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Speaker 2: a problem for mister Trump and for Republicans, you know,

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Speaker 2: down the road. Now, let's look at it from the

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Speaker 2: other point of view. If you're Elon Musk, he's got

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Speaker 2: some problems too. The President is threatening to take away

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Speaker 2: a lot of federal contracts, of which Elon Musk benefits enormously,

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Speaker 2: for Tesla, for SpaceX. He's threatening. In fact, Steve Bannon,

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Speaker 2: who as I'm sure you know, has been a long

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Speaker 2: time Trump supporter and activist, I suppose he tonight, is

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Speaker 2: also suggesting that Elon must be deported from the United States,

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Speaker 2: even though he actually is a US citizen and has

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Speaker 2: been for something like twenty years now. So this is

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Speaker 2: really ugly. And you know, and I've said this to

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Speaker 2: some other people in the past few hours, if you

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Speaker 2: were a writer and if you sat down to write

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Speaker 2: a novel or a screenplay or a teleplay, and you

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Speaker 2: try to sell this plot to anybody, they would probably

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Speaker 2: laugh you out of the building.

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Speaker 3: This was always going to end this way, wasn't it, though,

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Speaker 3: with two characters like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think you're right about that you're

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Speaker 2: talking about. I mean, look at the egos that you're

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Speaker 2: dealing with. You know, it takes an enormous ego, which

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Speaker 2: certainly mister Trump has for anyone, frankly to run for

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Speaker 2: and be elected as president of the United States. But

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Speaker 2: certainly mister Trump probably surpasses most in the ego department.

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Speaker 2: And then mat v Elon Musk, who, again it's no

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Speaker 2: small feed. I suppose to be the richest man in

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Speaker 2: the known universe. So, yes, you're talking about a clash

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Speaker 2: of incredible egos. It was bound to have a parting

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Speaker 2: of the ways at some point. Mister Trump is not

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Speaker 2: known for liking to share the spotlight with anyone. But

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Speaker 2: having said that, nobody I think it would have predicted

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Speaker 2: that the end of this relationship, if it is an end,

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Speaker 2: but I suspect it is, at least in the short run.

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Speaker 2: No one would have suspected it would end in such

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Speaker 2: a dramatic in some ways, almost Shakespearean, you know, and

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Speaker 2: anyone who says that they would have predicted it would

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Speaker 2: end this way is probably lying.

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Speaker 3: Charles. It's very good to talk to you. Thank you

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Speaker 3: so much. As Charles Feldman, us political analyst.

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