1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: You, corresponding to Richard Arnold's with us, Hey, Richard, So, 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: what's the latest on the shooting in Wisconsin. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it was a seven year old, a 4 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: seven year old kid who called police emergency from her 5 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 2: classrooms to let people know that there was Yeah, another 6 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: deadly massed shooting in her school this time, so says 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 2: Madison Police Chief Shon Barnes of the situation with this. 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 3: I like that, so camped for a minute. A second 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 3: grade student call nine one. 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 2: One, Yeah, let it soak in. So, adding to the 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: gun crazy casually told a teacher and a student were 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: killed in this Wisconsin attack. Five other students are dealing 13 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: with gunshot injuries. Two of these are in critical condition 14 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: at the minute. Another seven year old girl who witnessed 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: all of this says, I just heard sighting in. There 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: was a teacher and. 17 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 4: She was going to be like, oh my lag hew hew. 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: So a memory that will stay with that child forever, 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 2: no doubt. Another student twelve years old says of the shooting, 20 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: and after Martha and the fifteen year old with a 21 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: handgun open fire on a mixed age study group. 22 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: They're crying somewhere scared, Yeah, hugging each other. 23 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: The young shooter took her own life after the rampage, 24 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: says the police chief. 25 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 3: She was a student at the school and evidence suggests 26 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: she died from a self in afflicted gunshot. 27 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: Wine. So it's a girl this time. That is uncommon. Typically, 28 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: of course it's young boys. How does a fifteen year 29 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: old get a gun like this? A family has said 30 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: to be co operating, so we'll see this girl also 31 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: left behind a note WISCONSCINUS Democratic Party Governor Tony Evers 32 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: causes a gut wrenching tragedy. President Biden calls the shooting 33 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: quote shocking and unconscionable, and is calling on the US 34 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: Congress to act immediately on gun control. Fat chance of 35 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: that four hundred and eighty eight mass shootings here this 36 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 2: year so far? 37 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: Jesus quite something, Richard, Listen, what's going on with RFK Junior? 38 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: Is he backing away from this anti vax stance? 39 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: Seems to be under pressure. You know, he is to 40 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: pick by Donald Trump to head the Health Human Services Department. 41 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: He is on Capitol Hill right now, where his presence 42 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: is raising questions about the polio vaccine because you know 43 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: him much about polioid these days because of the vaccine 44 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: that was introduced in nineteen fifty five of soult vaccine. 45 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 2: Before that, it was one of the most feared diseases 46 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 2: in the world and in this country, he sayd In 47 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 2: nineteen sixteen, over two thousand people died of it, and 48 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 2: in the worst year fifty two, more than three thousand died. 49 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: Many others was left with lifelong effects, including Fdr. President Roosevelt, 50 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: who got polloi ad age thirty nine, had to get 51 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: around in a wheelchair for the rest of his life 52 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: because he was partially paralyzed. 53 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: So Robert F. 54 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior has been questioning the use of the polio vaccine, 55 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: and the AP is reporting that RF case lawyer petitioned 56 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: recently to suspend approval for the vaccine. So this was 57 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: very much the issue on reporter's mind a short time ago. 58 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: Mister Kennedy, do you believe in the polio vaccine? 59 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: What do you say to Americans who were worried you're 60 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 3: going to take away their vaccines? 61 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: Mister Kennedy, Yeah, So in the spotlight right now, he 62 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 2: seems to be reversing himself, But just days ago, this 63 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: is what he was saying about it. 64 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 4: You say to me that the you know polio vaccine 65 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 4: was effective against polio, I'm going to say yes if 66 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 4: I if you said to me, did it kill more people? 67 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 4: That did caused more? Doasin I've heard, I would say 68 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 4: I don't know, because we don't have the data. 69 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: Not enough data. After sixty nine years of use and 70 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: polio being largely eradicated, the incoming president said he wanted 71 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: arfk to go wild right on health issues. Now is 72 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: putting it this way. 73 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 3: I'm a big believer in it, and I think everything 74 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: should be looked at. But I'm a big believer in 75 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 3: the polio vaccines. 76 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 2: Well I didn't say that during the campaign, did he? 77 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 2: Then there is measles. Back in twenty nineteen, Rifka Junior 78 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: discourage people in Samoa from using measles vaccine. They followed 79 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 2: more than five thousand cases of measles and eighty three 80 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: children died of it. Meantime, Trump's choice to hit the Pentagon. 81 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 2: Former Fox News Weekend co presenter Pete Hegsas still is 82 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: seeking congressional backing. This is still all playing out. 83 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: Now. 84 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: We find that Hexas is being escorted around the camp 85 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: by a fellow named John Hasenbin who was deployed to 86 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 2: Iraq eight times and won two Bronze stars. So quite 87 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: a long military record there with all kinds of new 88 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: courageous interventions. But he also faced a court martial which 89 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: ended in a mistrial because a mate of his had 90 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: been talking to one of the jurors. They didn't bother 91 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 2: to a second trial. But account say that hasn't by 92 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: attacked a civilian trainer, knocking this fellow into a concrete pillar, 93 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: giving him quote hammerfist strikes to his ribs and knee 94 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 2: kicks to his face until he was left hog tied 95 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: in a pool of his own blood. So part of 96 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: the newly proposed Pentagon team. 97 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: Richard, thanks very much, very exciting, Richard Arnold, you wis corresponding. 98 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: I love listening to RFK June. Don't you always look 99 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: forward to it? This is like a malfunctioning AI every 100 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:44,119 Speaker 1: time you hear them. 101 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 102 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: News Talks. It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow 103 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio.