1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Fine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:12,627 Speaker 1: from newstalksb. 3 00:00:12,787 --> 00:00:16,827 Speaker 2: Early January is the time for resolutions and many sports 4 00:00:16,827 --> 00:00:20,467 Speaker 2: people and particularly coaches, we'll be looking ahead and planning 5 00:00:20,507 --> 00:00:23,427 Speaker 2: how twenty twenty five can be their best year ever, 6 00:00:23,747 --> 00:00:27,667 Speaker 2: whether it's elite or grassroots that they're involved in. Coaching 7 00:00:27,707 --> 00:00:30,267 Speaker 2: guru Wayne Goldsmith has joined us earlier in the year 8 00:00:30,347 --> 00:00:32,347 Speaker 2: to give us some tips. You sent me a great 9 00:00:32,427 --> 00:00:36,307 Speaker 2: article Wayne, how not to fail at keeping your New 10 00:00:36,387 --> 00:00:39,827 Speaker 2: Year's resolutions. I found it very interesting. Is a good 11 00:00:39,827 --> 00:00:43,067 Speaker 2: place to start when you're looking ahead, to look back 12 00:00:43,267 --> 00:00:46,827 Speaker 2: at the year that's been and reflect honestly upon that. 13 00:00:46,987 --> 00:00:49,107 Speaker 2: First of all, it. 14 00:00:49,347 --> 00:00:51,067 Speaker 3: Is a happy new year to you, pointing to all 15 00:00:51,147 --> 00:00:54,107 Speaker 3: your listeners and millions and millions that I know are 16 00:00:54,147 --> 00:00:55,747 Speaker 3: writes are in New Zealand and the rest of the 17 00:00:55,747 --> 00:00:58,907 Speaker 3: world if they want to follow sport and learn all 18 00:00:58,907 --> 00:01:02,347 Speaker 3: they can. But yeah, look, it's what we know about resolutions. 19 00:01:02,667 --> 00:01:06,467 Speaker 3: It's a very common thing you grow up with and 20 00:01:06,587 --> 00:01:09,467 Speaker 3: dad saying, right, it's a new year, let's get up 21 00:01:09,507 --> 00:01:12,067 Speaker 3: and get into school, and it's the year you're going 22 00:01:12,147 --> 00:01:14,827 Speaker 3: to be in the first eleven soccer team and all 23 00:01:14,867 --> 00:01:18,307 Speaker 3: those things. Yet we know, and the research has been 24 00:01:18,387 --> 00:01:21,507 Speaker 3: around for years and years, we know that by the 25 00:01:21,627 --> 00:01:25,787 Speaker 3: end of January about sixty to seventy percent of those 26 00:01:25,867 --> 00:01:29,187 Speaker 3: resolutions have been abandoned. And look, if I said to 27 00:01:29,227 --> 00:01:31,387 Speaker 3: you a pointy let's go and do something, but there's 28 00:01:31,387 --> 00:01:33,787 Speaker 3: a seventy percent chance it's not going to work, you 29 00:01:33,987 --> 00:01:37,507 Speaker 3: probably want to take another approach. And you know, thanks 30 00:01:37,507 --> 00:01:39,587 Speaker 3: to the work of people like Mark Manson, I'm sure 31 00:01:39,707 --> 00:01:42,627 Speaker 3: people have come across his book and other people who 32 00:01:42,627 --> 00:01:47,467 Speaker 3: have looked at changed differently, there's a much much better 33 00:01:47,507 --> 00:01:52,307 Speaker 3: way of reflecting on what's gone, but being better focused 34 00:01:52,347 --> 00:01:57,107 Speaker 3: on the achievement of change in implementing change going forward. 35 00:01:58,067 --> 00:02:00,747 Speaker 2: So let's look at how you do that effectively. Let's 36 00:02:00,827 --> 00:02:03,547 Speaker 2: look at how we well might first of all, get 37 00:02:03,587 --> 00:02:06,187 Speaker 2: past the end of January for starters, and then implement 38 00:02:06,187 --> 00:02:10,547 Speaker 2: things which are going to have a concrete positive effect. 39 00:02:11,467 --> 00:02:14,067 Speaker 2: When you look back and you look at what has 40 00:02:14,107 --> 00:02:18,347 Speaker 2: been working, what hasn't, what you'd keep doing, what should 41 00:02:18,387 --> 00:02:21,147 Speaker 2: you stop doing, what should you start doing, And how 42 00:02:21,147 --> 00:02:25,107 Speaker 2: do you work out which of your actions fall into 43 00:02:25,107 --> 00:02:26,067 Speaker 2: which of those categories. 44 00:02:27,547 --> 00:02:31,267 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's a question that even the professional teams 45 00:02:31,307 --> 00:02:34,587 Speaker 3: I'm sure when the All Blacks came back from the 46 00:02:34,707 --> 00:02:38,267 Speaker 3: spring tour, they came back from Europe and they went 47 00:02:38,347 --> 00:02:41,187 Speaker 3: through a process of saying, well, what did we do 48 00:02:41,307 --> 00:02:44,107 Speaker 3: that workers? There's always things at work, and then what 49 00:02:44,147 --> 00:02:47,067 Speaker 3: did we do where we went, well, that just didn't work, 50 00:02:47,107 --> 00:02:50,827 Speaker 3: that strategy didn't work, that player didn't work in that position, 51 00:02:51,067 --> 00:02:53,867 Speaker 3: or that preparation didn't work, or the travel didn't work. 52 00:02:54,427 --> 00:02:56,027 Speaker 3: And then we go, you know, what did we learn 53 00:02:56,107 --> 00:02:57,987 Speaker 3: about this? What did we learn along the way that 54 00:02:58,027 --> 00:03:00,867 Speaker 3: we can start doing. And that's a very simple but 55 00:03:01,307 --> 00:03:06,867 Speaker 3: very effective model. Keep doing, stop doing, start doing what's working, 56 00:03:07,147 --> 00:03:09,787 Speaker 3: they're doing it, what's not working? Stop doing it? What 57 00:03:09,907 --> 00:03:12,187 Speaker 3: did we learn along the way? What did we learn 58 00:03:12,747 --> 00:03:15,347 Speaker 3: in the last week. I think the problem that I 59 00:03:15,427 --> 00:03:21,027 Speaker 3: see with coaches finally, is they tend to abandon too much. 60 00:03:21,107 --> 00:03:24,307 Speaker 3: There's a great line that says, if you stand for nothing, 61 00:03:24,667 --> 00:03:28,387 Speaker 3: you'll fall for anything. So instead of being analytical and say, 62 00:03:29,147 --> 00:03:32,747 Speaker 3: let's sit down from it, what actually worked, what didn't work, 63 00:03:32,787 --> 00:03:36,187 Speaker 3: and what can we do differently and ask the players, 64 00:03:36,427 --> 00:03:38,187 Speaker 3: or sit down and talk to the parents or the 65 00:03:38,227 --> 00:03:41,627 Speaker 3: committee or other coaches, or look at the data or 66 00:03:41,667 --> 00:03:43,587 Speaker 3: whatever it is, and try to get a bit of 67 00:03:43,627 --> 00:03:46,947 Speaker 3: an objective assessment of the things that work, didn't work 68 00:03:47,267 --> 00:03:50,987 Speaker 3: and what did we learn and look at it if 69 00:03:50,987 --> 00:03:54,187 Speaker 3: they can almost from a distance, almost a helicopter perspective 70 00:03:54,467 --> 00:03:57,507 Speaker 3: of looking at the inside from the outside and go, well, 71 00:03:57,507 --> 00:04:00,987 Speaker 3: you know what, what actually worked, because otherwise they might 72 00:04:01,027 --> 00:04:03,227 Speaker 3: be laying on the bench and they're going there's an 73 00:04:03,307 --> 00:04:06,867 Speaker 3: article from the I don't know the timber in the 74 00:04:06,987 --> 00:04:10,907 Speaker 3: NBA and the coach says, you know what we've found 75 00:04:11,027 --> 00:04:14,507 Speaker 3: really worked is we train Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and we 76 00:04:14,547 --> 00:04:15,907 Speaker 3: have the rest of the week off. And he goes, 77 00:04:16,067 --> 00:04:18,587 Speaker 3: that's it. We've got to do that from now on 78 00:04:18,907 --> 00:04:22,187 Speaker 3: with my under apes because that's what somebody else is doing. 79 00:04:22,867 --> 00:04:25,787 Speaker 3: Wrong way to go about it. It's not about following 80 00:04:25,907 --> 00:04:29,747 Speaker 3: trends and saying we're going to change by following what's 81 00:04:29,827 --> 00:04:34,747 Speaker 3: working for other people. It's that methodical, systematic We're already 82 00:04:34,787 --> 00:04:36,547 Speaker 3: doing some things that are great, let's hang on to 83 00:04:36,587 --> 00:04:40,187 Speaker 3: those some things we know just did not work, and 84 00:04:40,227 --> 00:04:42,667 Speaker 3: then what did we learn though, We've got to introduce 85 00:04:43,267 --> 00:04:45,947 Speaker 3: some smart change to make things better. 86 00:04:46,827 --> 00:04:50,507 Speaker 2: Just on the keep doing the things that worked. I 87 00:04:50,507 --> 00:04:53,787 Speaker 2: guess the overplaying of that is not changing too much 88 00:04:53,827 --> 00:04:56,827 Speaker 2: at all. And another one of our favorite sayings is 89 00:04:56,987 --> 00:04:59,987 Speaker 2: insanity is doing the same thing over and over and 90 00:05:00,027 --> 00:05:03,147 Speaker 2: expecting a different result. How challenging is it for coaches 91 00:05:03,147 --> 00:05:06,987 Speaker 2: who might have been successful, maybe very successful in twenty 92 00:05:07,027 --> 00:05:10,067 Speaker 2: twenty four to actually say, okay, we still need to 93 00:05:10,107 --> 00:05:11,587 Speaker 2: look at things that we can change. 94 00:05:13,107 --> 00:05:14,867 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you and I talked about this on 95 00:05:15,467 --> 00:05:20,347 Speaker 3: a recent call about this need for intelligent and smart change. 96 00:05:20,467 --> 00:05:24,707 Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be big change, but this differentiation 97 00:05:24,907 --> 00:05:29,707 Speaker 3: between what's working and that those horrible words or those 98 00:05:29,787 --> 00:05:33,467 Speaker 3: really negative performance living in words of that's the way 99 00:05:33,547 --> 00:05:35,947 Speaker 3: we do it here. This is why there needs to 100 00:05:35,987 --> 00:05:38,347 Speaker 3: be a bit of a process of thinking, because otherwise 101 00:05:38,347 --> 00:05:40,787 Speaker 3: you go, well, we did that last year and we 102 00:05:40,827 --> 00:05:44,467 Speaker 3: came first. Therefore everything we do is great and it's 103 00:05:44,507 --> 00:05:46,947 Speaker 3: all working. Then you step back and say, well, hey, 104 00:05:46,987 --> 00:05:49,747 Speaker 3: go on a minute, if we hadn't have got that 105 00:05:49,947 --> 00:05:53,507 Speaker 3: penalty with five minutes to go in the semi final, 106 00:05:53,827 --> 00:05:55,987 Speaker 3: we wouldn't have even been in the final. And if 107 00:05:55,987 --> 00:05:59,067 Speaker 3: that player hadn't been yellow carted after the first fifth 108 00:05:59,107 --> 00:06:02,067 Speaker 3: three minutes, we may not have won one nil, or 109 00:06:02,107 --> 00:06:04,187 Speaker 3: we may not have had that extramends good to try 110 00:06:04,227 --> 00:06:08,307 Speaker 3: and the corder, so you could success could almost blind you. 111 00:06:08,307 --> 00:06:10,907 Speaker 3: You can look back and say, well, okay, the performance 112 00:06:11,027 --> 00:06:13,947 Speaker 3: was this. Therefore we know everything, and even at the 113 00:06:13,987 --> 00:06:16,307 Speaker 3: other end of the scale pointing you could have come 114 00:06:16,427 --> 00:06:19,867 Speaker 3: last in the competition, it doesn't mean that every single 115 00:06:19,947 --> 00:06:22,667 Speaker 3: thing is wrong. There's always things that are working. And 116 00:06:22,787 --> 00:06:25,747 Speaker 3: sometimes that's the art is knowing what the tweet, what 117 00:06:25,867 --> 00:06:28,507 Speaker 3: to change, what not the change, and how to go 118 00:06:28,667 --> 00:06:32,067 Speaker 3: about changing it. And quite often the evidence is right 119 00:06:32,147 --> 00:06:34,987 Speaker 3: in front of you if your eyes are open and 120 00:06:35,027 --> 00:06:38,547 Speaker 3: you're not blinded by ego, you're not blinded by habit 121 00:06:38,627 --> 00:06:43,427 Speaker 3: and tradition and ritual thinking that the things I do 122 00:06:43,507 --> 00:06:47,547 Speaker 3: are all right. It's just circumstance or one of the 123 00:06:47,587 --> 00:06:49,347 Speaker 3: big ones that I see Piney and I wrote an 124 00:06:49,387 --> 00:06:52,907 Speaker 3: article about this year in the Week is you can't 125 00:06:52,947 --> 00:06:57,387 Speaker 3: buy success. But the coaches go, you know what, Sure, 126 00:06:57,427 --> 00:07:02,987 Speaker 3: we lost every game last year, and our tackling was awful, 127 00:07:03,187 --> 00:07:05,867 Speaker 3: and our tack was terrible, and we couldn't kick, and 128 00:07:05,907 --> 00:07:07,987 Speaker 3: we couldn't asked, you know what, we need some new 129 00:07:07,987 --> 00:07:13,787 Speaker 3: gym equipment. Break the mold of thinking that things you 130 00:07:13,987 --> 00:07:17,747 Speaker 3: buy will fix your problems, and you probably just lost 131 00:07:17,787 --> 00:07:22,307 Speaker 3: whole bunch of sponsors. I'm terribly sorry, but try to 132 00:07:22,347 --> 00:07:26,467 Speaker 3: get the mindset of I as leader. I need to 133 00:07:26,547 --> 00:07:29,067 Speaker 3: lead the change. I need to change what I'm doing 134 00:07:29,067 --> 00:07:30,707 Speaker 3: and the way that I look at things. I then 135 00:07:30,787 --> 00:07:34,227 Speaker 3: need to inspire change in the people who are around me. 136 00:07:34,787 --> 00:07:37,027 Speaker 3: And then when I got those things and play, sure, 137 00:07:37,147 --> 00:07:40,587 Speaker 3: let's look for maybe some equipment choices. But I see 138 00:07:40,587 --> 00:07:45,947 Speaker 3: a lot of you know, there's that The story I 139 00:07:46,067 --> 00:07:48,027 Speaker 3: like to tell, the way I like to describe it 140 00:07:48,027 --> 00:07:51,147 Speaker 3: a people pinty, is that if I'm a terrible driver 141 00:07:51,987 --> 00:07:55,027 Speaker 3: and I break too late or too early, and don't 142 00:07:55,027 --> 00:07:57,227 Speaker 3: accelerate the right way and I don't know how to corner, 143 00:07:57,827 --> 00:08:00,467 Speaker 3: given me a Ferrari doesn't make me a better driver, 144 00:08:01,067 --> 00:08:03,667 Speaker 3: and I think it's a lot of copaches go well, 145 00:08:03,707 --> 00:08:05,987 Speaker 3: you know what, the skills are not great. There's not 146 00:08:05,987 --> 00:08:08,547 Speaker 3: a lot of motivation. The culture and the team isn't 147 00:08:08,747 --> 00:08:11,347 Speaker 3: really working on a lot of problems with parents. You know, 148 00:08:11,467 --> 00:08:14,467 Speaker 3: we need a new gym, or we need everyone needs 149 00:08:14,467 --> 00:08:16,867 Speaker 3: to get a new uniform, or we need some new 150 00:08:16,907 --> 00:08:20,027 Speaker 3: goal paste. No good coming up with a great solution 151 00:08:20,227 --> 00:08:23,467 Speaker 3: to the wrong problem. So first of all, figure out 152 00:08:23,507 --> 00:08:26,667 Speaker 3: what's working. Figure out what's not working, and then what 153 00:08:26,907 --> 00:08:30,427 Speaker 3: did you learn that you can systematically implement and make 154 00:08:30,467 --> 00:08:30,947 Speaker 3: it better? 155 00:08:31,787 --> 00:08:34,787 Speaker 2: Change can be daunting, though, can't it wane? So can 156 00:08:34,867 --> 00:08:37,227 Speaker 2: even small steps make a difference? 157 00:08:38,747 --> 00:08:41,427 Speaker 3: Absolutely? And if you get a chance to read that 158 00:08:41,627 --> 00:08:44,547 Speaker 3: Manson book, The Subtle Art of Not Giving Up root word, 159 00:08:44,867 --> 00:08:47,307 Speaker 3: which I'm sure everybody's either heard of or soon, but 160 00:08:47,387 --> 00:08:50,867 Speaker 3: it's great, And he's got a wonderful series on YouTube 161 00:08:50,907 --> 00:08:55,027 Speaker 3: about making change, James Clear with Atomic Habits. There's a 162 00:08:55,067 --> 00:08:59,227 Speaker 3: lot of material you can buy or read for free 163 00:08:59,627 --> 00:09:02,947 Speaker 3: online through social media by those two, but there's a 164 00:09:02,947 --> 00:09:07,627 Speaker 3: lot of others where the message is small steps matter. 165 00:09:08,267 --> 00:09:10,387 Speaker 3: So a lot of people going right, this is the 166 00:09:10,467 --> 00:09:14,187 Speaker 3: year I'm going to change everything about the way I 167 00:09:14,267 --> 00:09:17,147 Speaker 3: train for rugby. Everything's going to change, every single thing 168 00:09:17,187 --> 00:09:21,267 Speaker 3: is well, No, just first little step, Turn up five 169 00:09:21,307 --> 00:09:24,587 Speaker 3: minutes early and do a few stretches. The next week, 170 00:09:24,987 --> 00:09:27,627 Speaker 3: turn up five minutes early, do a few stretches and 171 00:09:28,347 --> 00:09:32,387 Speaker 3: do ten kicks, or go by yourself. The next week, 172 00:09:32,787 --> 00:09:35,307 Speaker 3: turn up five minutes early, do some stretches, have a 173 00:09:35,347 --> 00:09:37,307 Speaker 3: few goal kicks, and do a little bit more of 174 00:09:37,347 --> 00:09:41,707 Speaker 3: a warmer or just little steps and the cumulative effect 175 00:09:42,427 --> 00:09:46,507 Speaker 3: of those little steps and achievable steps. What we know 176 00:09:46,667 --> 00:09:51,107 Speaker 3: from the research about things like New Year's resolutions in 177 00:09:51,187 --> 00:09:56,307 Speaker 3: broader society, most of them fail because steps are too big. 178 00:09:56,627 --> 00:09:58,587 Speaker 3: So you might have someone like me is about ten 179 00:09:58,627 --> 00:10:01,387 Speaker 3: fifteen colos overweight on a good day, and you say, right, 180 00:10:01,547 --> 00:10:04,267 Speaker 3: this is the day, this is the time, this is year. 181 00:10:04,307 --> 00:10:06,107 Speaker 3: I'm going to lose all the weight. I'm going to 182 00:10:06,147 --> 00:10:10,107 Speaker 3: run marathon, I'm going to play NBA, and I'm going 183 00:10:10,187 --> 00:10:12,307 Speaker 3: to do it all by the end of February. Let's go. 184 00:10:12,867 --> 00:10:17,787 Speaker 3: And it's not sustainable. The steps are too big, and us, 185 00:10:17,827 --> 00:10:20,187 Speaker 3: being human beings, we want to see results. We want 186 00:10:20,227 --> 00:10:22,947 Speaker 3: to see things happening, so I want to go. If 187 00:10:22,987 --> 00:10:24,427 Speaker 3: I go to the gym, I want to look watch 188 00:10:24,427 --> 00:10:27,507 Speaker 3: towards the Nigga the next day, so we know that 189 00:10:27,787 --> 00:10:30,307 Speaker 3: just doesn't work, and your brain sooner or latter says, 190 00:10:30,667 --> 00:10:34,467 Speaker 3: what's the point? Why bother? I'm not getting Whereas if 191 00:10:34,507 --> 00:10:36,667 Speaker 3: I go to the gym and say, my only goal 192 00:10:36,747 --> 00:10:39,147 Speaker 3: to the gym today is to get there on time 193 00:10:40,027 --> 00:10:42,987 Speaker 3: and to do ten or fifteen minutes of exercise that 194 00:10:43,067 --> 00:10:46,347 Speaker 3: I enjoy. That's all I need to do today. All right, 195 00:10:46,387 --> 00:10:48,587 Speaker 3: tomorrow I'm going to turn up, I'm going to go 196 00:10:48,667 --> 00:10:51,587 Speaker 3: twenty minutes and I'm going to end it five minutes 197 00:10:51,627 --> 00:10:54,627 Speaker 3: on the bike or five minutes on the treatment. All right, 198 00:10:54,707 --> 00:10:59,147 Speaker 3: next week, and those little steps achievable steps, but you're 199 00:10:59,147 --> 00:11:04,147 Speaker 3: getting immediate feedback going, wow, I'm getting better, I'm seeing progress, 200 00:11:04,467 --> 00:11:07,107 Speaker 3: I'm seeing improvement. And if so, I can give one 201 00:11:07,147 --> 00:11:11,907 Speaker 3: piece of advice to coaches, to parents and athletes is 202 00:11:12,747 --> 00:11:18,507 Speaker 3: tiny steps. It's the cumulative effect, the impact of And 203 00:11:19,027 --> 00:11:20,507 Speaker 3: I say to swimmers, okay, what are you going to 204 00:11:20,547 --> 00:11:22,707 Speaker 3: do this year and they say I'm going to make 205 00:11:22,747 --> 00:11:25,147 Speaker 3: the national team or I'm going to break a national record. 206 00:11:25,427 --> 00:11:27,547 Speaker 3: All right, how far is that? How far are you 207 00:11:27,627 --> 00:11:30,867 Speaker 3: off your target? And they might say, oh, look I'm 208 00:11:31,187 --> 00:11:34,307 Speaker 3: four seconds away, which is a huge chunk of improvement, 209 00:11:34,707 --> 00:11:37,267 Speaker 3: and it can be daunting, but say, look, all you've 210 00:11:37,267 --> 00:11:41,507 Speaker 3: got to improve is a tenth of a second every session. 211 00:11:41,587 --> 00:11:44,507 Speaker 3: That's it. Can you improve a tenth of a second, 212 00:11:44,587 --> 00:11:47,187 Speaker 3: yes they can, they tell me back, Well, that's all 213 00:11:47,507 --> 00:11:50,627 Speaker 3: you need to think about, because the cumulative effect over 214 00:11:50,667 --> 00:11:54,507 Speaker 3: a week is half a second, the cumulative victo two 215 00:11:54,587 --> 00:11:58,147 Speaker 3: weeks is and those little steps matter. 216 00:11:59,907 --> 00:12:04,107 Speaker 2: Such instantly usable advice. As always, Wayne, thank you, for 217 00:12:04,107 --> 00:12:06,507 Speaker 2: your time. Now I understand you're hitting our way, seing 218 00:12:06,587 --> 00:12:08,267 Speaker 2: up with a bunch of tennis coaches over the side 219 00:12:08,307 --> 00:12:08,707 Speaker 2: of the ditch. 220 00:12:09,987 --> 00:12:14,107 Speaker 3: I am. I am. On Monday morning, I'm speaking at 221 00:12:14,187 --> 00:12:19,707 Speaker 3: the Tennis New Zealand the Classic Tennis tournament in Auckland. 222 00:12:19,747 --> 00:12:24,547 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it. I'm talking about the importance 223 00:12:24,587 --> 00:12:29,467 Speaker 3: of coaching choice and the whole theme will be about 224 00:12:30,427 --> 00:12:33,667 Speaker 3: taking coaches on a journey on how they can go 225 00:12:33,987 --> 00:12:38,707 Speaker 3: from coaching kids by what I call bob coaching, bucket 226 00:12:38,707 --> 00:12:41,547 Speaker 3: of balls coaching and just trying balls across and getting 227 00:12:41,547 --> 00:12:44,547 Speaker 3: them to hit them back, which is quite off from 228 00:12:44,547 --> 00:12:47,467 Speaker 3: what we've seen in the really early years and introductory 229 00:12:47,547 --> 00:12:53,107 Speaker 3: years of coaching, through to helping athletes become independent, to 230 00:12:53,187 --> 00:12:57,867 Speaker 3: become self accountable, to become responsible for their own actions behavior. 231 00:12:57,947 --> 00:13:00,947 Speaker 3: So to be taking coaches through a process of how 232 00:13:00,987 --> 00:13:06,587 Speaker 3: do I help kids go from coaching coaching, following my 233 00:13:06,747 --> 00:13:10,467 Speaker 3: coaching and doing the coaching process that I'm suggesting for 234 00:13:10,507 --> 00:13:14,627 Speaker 3: them to taking ownership, responsibility and accountability for their own destiny. 235 00:13:14,787 --> 00:13:17,667 Speaker 3: So it's the ASP Classic and then we get to 236 00:13:17,707 --> 00:13:19,987 Speaker 3: go to the tennis that night. What a day. So 237 00:13:19,987 --> 00:13:22,347 Speaker 3: I get to work with coaches in the morning, hang 238 00:13:22,387 --> 00:13:24,467 Speaker 3: out and listen to some other presenters during the day, 239 00:13:24,467 --> 00:13:26,107 Speaker 3: and then we all go to the tennis at night. 240 00:13:26,747 --> 00:13:28,907 Speaker 3: Carrot Waite's going to be really really good. 241 00:13:28,747 --> 00:13:32,027 Speaker 2: Fun outstanding well. I know they'll get great benefit from you, Wayne, 242 00:13:32,067 --> 00:13:34,507 Speaker 2: as we always do. Thanks for taking the time as always, 243 00:13:34,507 --> 00:13:37,467 Speaker 2: look forward to catching up regularly as twenty twenty five 244 00:13:37,507 --> 00:13:37,867 Speaker 2: rolls on. 245 00:13:39,267 --> 00:13:41,867 Speaker 3: Cannot wait for talk again, my friend, have a wonderful week. 246 00:13:41,947 --> 00:13:44,347 Speaker 2: You have a great week to Wayne. Wayne Goldsmith there 247 00:13:44,347 --> 00:13:49,427 Speaker 2: with some great advice as always from more from waynewg 248 00:13:49,627 --> 00:13:53,747 Speaker 2: Coaching dot Com is his website WG coaching dot com. 249 00:13:53,787 --> 00:13:56,427 Speaker 2: Heaps a great snippets and articles and other bits and 250 00:13:56,427 --> 00:13:58,667 Speaker 2: pieces on there, and he's a regular contributor to Weekend 251 00:13:58,747 --> 00:14:02,267 Speaker 2: Sport across the year Wayne Goldsmith. 252 00:14:03,267 --> 00:14:06,667 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Faine, listen to 253 00:14:06,747 --> 00:14:09,987 Speaker 1: News Talks It'd be weekends from midday or follow the 254 00:14:10,027 --> 00:14:11,507 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio.