1
00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:05,080
Speaker 1: Opinion, Edit, informed, und apologetic, the my Hosking, Breakfast with

2
00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,600
Speaker 1: the Defender, Embrace the impossible news talks He'd be.

3
00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,240
Speaker 2: Billy Welcome Portential Today, new report on how much airpas

4
00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,080
Speaker 2: have gone up in this country versus ore. There's new

5
00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,480
Speaker 2: report into what state housing is casting us versus doing

6
00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,239
Speaker 2: it differently. The Life and Times of jimbal Ja, Benji

7
00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,400
Speaker 2: and Joel Madden tell us about reforming Good Charlotte to

8
00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,919
Speaker 2: Joe McKenna's and Italy and Rod Little does the UK

9
00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:30,040
Speaker 2: for us as well? Tasking Thursday Morning, seven past six.

10
00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,000
Speaker 2: One of the great myths of the modern economy is

11
00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,000
Speaker 2: the idea that young people can't afford a house. Now,

12
00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,960
Speaker 2: the facts are that for every house sold, about a

13
00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,960
Speaker 2: quarter of them sometimes a little bit more about twenty

14
00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,760
Speaker 2: seven percent hour. In fact first times that figure has

15
00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,600
Speaker 2: been remarkably solid over any number of years in any

16
00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,680
Speaker 2: type of market. Can be expensive, Yes, to some people

17
00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,680
Speaker 2: miss out. Yes, are some areas better or worse than others? Yes,

18
00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,120
Speaker 2: But in a world where the negative selves, if you

19
00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,600
Speaker 2: can convince people that the young are victims, it can

20
00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,800
Speaker 2: become very political, very fast. Of course, no government can

21
00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,760
Speaker 2: manipulate the market and for all the governments that are

22
00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,160
Speaker 2: promised a solution, more often than not ends and tears.

23
00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,600
Speaker 2: And for every levy you pulled, there is a counter

24
00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,440
Speaker 2: reaction elsewhere, which is why it is often best to

25
00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,360
Speaker 2: leave the market to its own devices. Australia, though, is

26
00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,360
Speaker 2: dabbling in housing as we speak. The latest scheme involves

27
00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,319
Speaker 2: getting first buyers or first time buyers into their own

28
00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:22,080
Speaker 2: place where they five percent deposit any first timer any salary. Personally,

29
00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,280
Speaker 2: I've always liked the idea of getting young people into housing.

30
00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,000
Speaker 2: Easier entry, the better. Often the real impediment, and it's

31
00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,959
Speaker 2: true here, of course, is not the mortgage, but the downpayment.

32
00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,920
Speaker 2: I mean twenty percent of a million bucks, which is

33
00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,120
Speaker 2: basically the equation in a lot of New Zealand as

34
00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,440
Speaker 2: two hundred thousand dollars. That's a mountain for most and

35
00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,959
Speaker 2: an insurmountable one. Even one hundred thousand dollars is hard work.

36
00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,520
Speaker 2: But what about fifty fifty grand? Five percent? That's not

37
00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,680
Speaker 2: hard small town New Zealand, you go to a cheaper

38
00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,360
Speaker 2: place six hundred thousand dollars house thirty grand, that's doable.

39
00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,280
Speaker 2: That's your average key, we say, But why aren't we

40
00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,680
Speaker 2: doing that? Do you lose on housing rarely? Is it

41
00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:55,840
Speaker 2: a good long term investment?

42
00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:56,240
Speaker 3: Yes.

43
00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,120
Speaker 2: In Australia they cap the price to a first home

44
00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,360
Speaker 2: type level, So for example, at the moment in Sydney,

45
00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,200
Speaker 2: it's one point five million less in Melbourne. But what

46
00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,920
Speaker 2: it will do is get more people into houses. Do

47
00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,959
Speaker 2: people want that? Yes they do. The Reserve Bank worries

48
00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,200
Speaker 2: about a price surge, but this has been done ironically,

49
00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,600
Speaker 2: in the middle of a price surge. Australian housing is

50
00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,480
Speaker 2: often running. Their debate about affordability is raging hot, and

51
00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,079
Speaker 2: yet the government is all for it. And note it's

52
00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,000
Speaker 2: a labor government. So what about us? Does our housing

53
00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,480
Speaker 2: market need a boost? Yes it does. Do first time

54
00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,840
Speaker 2: is need a leg up. See what's stopping us.

55
00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,840
Speaker 4: News of the World in ninety seconds.

56
00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,080
Speaker 2: Perhaps not surprisingly post the hype of Tuesday, the Middle

57
00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,600
Speaker 2: East Part two as some issues. Hamas are shooting people,

58
00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,400
Speaker 2: of course, and not all the dead hostages are actually hostages.

59
00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,040
Speaker 5: Come us. The terror organization is required to uphold its

60
00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,080
Speaker 5: commitments and return all of our hostages as part of

61
00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,320
Speaker 5: the implementation of this agreement, and we will spare no

62
00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:55,400
Speaker 5: effort until our fallen hostages return. Every last one of.

63
00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,320
Speaker 2: Them, and mixed reports from those who did make it

64
00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:58,880
Speaker 2: back alive and ended up in hospitals.

65
00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:05,240
Speaker 6: Some of them may start being discharged to outpatient care,

66
00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,200
Speaker 6: hopefully at the beginning of next week, but there will

67
00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,480
Speaker 6: be some that probably would need more time then.

68
00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,680
Speaker 2: To Britain with a China spy skindle caught cash that

69
00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,560
Speaker 2: collapsed as forced Starmer's hand to.

70
00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,880
Speaker 7: Be clear, had the Conservative been quicker in updating our

71
00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:23,320
Speaker 7: legislation a.

72
00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,200
Speaker 8: Review that started in twenty fifteen, these individuals could have

73
00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,760
Speaker 8: been prosecuted.

74
00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,799
Speaker 2: And we would not be where we are without. Tory

75
00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,160
Speaker 2: still think they're on to wed cover.

76
00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:37,280
Speaker 9: Up serious case involving national security has collapsed because this government.

77
00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,840
Speaker 4: Is too weak to stand up to China.

78
00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,320
Speaker 2: More on this ladder with Rod. Also in Britain, Rachel

79
00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,600
Speaker 2: Reeves was outs breaking your upcoming budget and all the

80
00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:44,920
Speaker 2: cool stuff she's doing well.

81
00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,560
Speaker 10: The Plan and Infrastructure Bill is now going through as

82
00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,720
Speaker 10: final stages of the parliamentary process and we want that

83
00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,960
Speaker 10: to get Royal assent by the end of the year.

84
00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,440
Speaker 10: It's probably going to be the biggest piece of legislation

85
00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:57,760
Speaker 10: that this government passes.

86
00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,400
Speaker 2: And the Japanese have arrived in London, for the first

87
00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,640
Speaker 2: time a Grand Sumo tournament at long Woman.

88
00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,720
Speaker 9: I'm happy about the fact that Simila's backed doctor so

89
00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,440
Speaker 9: many years, and I'm happy to be here as a

90
00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,800
Speaker 9: similar wrestler, and I hope I can show the UK

91
00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,600
Speaker 9: fans how fantastic Simill is now.

92
00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,800
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure we will. Finally we've got a previously

93
00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,560
Speaker 2: unknown sixth se so we got the site. It's not

94
00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,000
Speaker 2: we're hearing the taste of the touch. But now the

95
00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,120
Speaker 2: scientists from California Script's research reck and they've found into reception,

96
00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,520
Speaker 2: so the process where our nervous system receives and interprets

97
00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,960
Speaker 2: the body's of physiological signals to give everything running smoothly.

98
00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,919
Speaker 2: That would explain how your brain knows when to breathe

99
00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,279
Speaker 2: or you know when you're fighting in infection, all that stuff. Anyway,

100
00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,160
Speaker 2: having discovered it, they've now received a twenty five million

101
00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,680
Speaker 2: dollar grant to research it. So we'll let you know

102
00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,360
Speaker 2: how that goes. News of the world in the market

103
00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,279
Speaker 2: just quickly on Rachel as in reeves as in budget.

104
00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,240
Speaker 2: The big news really today from her, unfortunately for her,

105
00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,880
Speaker 2: is that despite the fact they said they would not

106
00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,839
Speaker 2: raise taxes, she has admitted today that she is going

107
00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,160
Speaker 2: to raise taxes most likely, so there's political capital will

108
00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,440
Speaker 2: be spent there and robed with more later a twelve

109
00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:03,120
Speaker 2: past six.

110
00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:10,040
Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, part

111
00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,119
Speaker 1: by News Talk Zippy.

112
00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,840
Speaker 2: Mike and stepdaughter's twenty one just had a first loan

113
00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,160
Speaker 2: approve for seven hundred and ten thousand dollars, had fifty

114
00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,800
Speaker 2: thousand dollars deposit saved since she was thirteen. She's out

115
00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,800
Speaker 2: in the market now looking no help from anyone. It

116
00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,200
Speaker 2: is possible, very uplifting. Fifteen past six, I'm sure and

117
00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,400
Speaker 2: partners Andrew Keller had good morning, very good morning, Mike.

118
00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,560
Speaker 2: Paul Conway. Where was it in Sydney, wasn't he? Is

119
00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:34,880
Speaker 2: that right?

120
00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:35,520
Speaker 11: Yep?

121
00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:35,800
Speaker 3: Yep?

122
00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,400
Speaker 12: Central Bank has been out and about so Paul Conway,

123
00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,440
Speaker 12: who was the chief economist the arby and said he

124
00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,080
Speaker 12: gave a speech at the City as in City Bank

125
00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,240
Speaker 12: Australia and New Zealand Investment conference yesterday and I see

126
00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,760
Speaker 12: the RBA Deputy Governor was speaking as well.

127
00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:49,560
Speaker 11: So there's another one.

128
00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,719
Speaker 12: And the market's still really digesting comments by Jerome Powell

129
00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,080
Speaker 12: from the other day which which he sort of taught

130
00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,360
Speaker 12: about the world, the US world as well, and US.

131
00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,400
Speaker 11: I just quick note US ten year eights.

132
00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:02,560
Speaker 12: I'm just keeping an eye on those at the moment

133
00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,040
Speaker 12: because they're having around four percent, which is sort of

134
00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,720
Speaker 12: lowest we've seen them at for quite some time. So

135
00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,240
Speaker 12: at the moment, they're pushing US intestrates a little bit lower.

136
00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,880
Speaker 11: Yeah, Conway speech, Mike, you know, they're always careful not.

137
00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,159
Speaker 12: To overtly comment on monetary policy. But and the title

138
00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,560
Speaker 12: of the speech was backward looking, but the market always

139
00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,680
Speaker 12: pays attention when SENI, RB and Z staff speak and Mike,

140
00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,480
Speaker 12: I've often referred over the last couple of years to

141
00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:30,080
Speaker 12: what I call the multiplier effect of fiscal and monetary policies.

142
00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,800
Speaker 12: They do work together, and in our case, post COVID,

143
00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,839
Speaker 12: you had this combined effect, this multiplier effect in New

144
00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,200
Speaker 12: Zealand that created or that produced a sort of a

145
00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,600
Speaker 12: massive asset price bubble in housing and rampant sort of

146
00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,200
Speaker 12: runaway inflation. And that's absolutely the core of our problems

147
00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,080
Speaker 12: at the moment, because we're recovering from that that asset

148
00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,560
Speaker 12: price bubble being burst. Now, Conway did acknowledge how powerful

149
00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,640
Speaker 12: those policies were. The speech focused a little bit on

150
00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,440
Speaker 12: the large scale acid purchase program because the cost was huge,

151
00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,840
Speaker 12: and he talked about this almost eleven billion dollars worth

152
00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,680
Speaker 12: of losses on bonds that the rbens ended up owning.

153
00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,480
Speaker 11: That's three point two percent of GDP.

154
00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,040
Speaker 12: He contended though, that it was worth it because they

155
00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,200
Speaker 12: got better growth, they got better tax revenue. Now that

156
00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,080
Speaker 12: debate is going to continue for many years. Mike over

157
00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,440
Speaker 12: the RB and Zen and government response to COVID. Unfortunately,

158
00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,120
Speaker 12: we do not have time to reopen that whole debate

159
00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,680
Speaker 12: this morning, but we trowled through the speech for more

160
00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,760
Speaker 12: immediate or current comments.

161
00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,520
Speaker 11: And the worst snippets.

162
00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:34,160
Speaker 12: He referred to expecting a modest pickup in activity in

163
00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,840
Speaker 12: Q three and Q four, which is probably correct, but

164
00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,200
Speaker 12: I guess after that minus point nine GDP outcome in

165
00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,200
Speaker 12: Q two, I think we'd like to see more than

166
00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,040
Speaker 12: a modest pickup. Wouldn't be quite good, but Q three

167
00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,360
Speaker 12: that's certainly looking it's certainly looking accurate. That will be modest.

168
00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,280
Speaker 12: But he also said the minus zero point nine outcome

169
00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,880
Speaker 12: raises the possibility of a more prolonged period of excess

170
00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,440
Speaker 12: capacity in the economy, which they said the other day

171
00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:02,480
Speaker 12: that implies less medium term price pressure. He did say though,

172
00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,280
Speaker 12: that it's nerve racking for them holding that view that

173
00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,600
Speaker 12: inflation is at the very top of their three percent band.

174
00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,160
Speaker 12: But I guess that's all the description, isn't It's that's

175
00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,080
Speaker 12: what they've got to do. No real market reaction, you say,

176
00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,000
Speaker 12: But interest rate swap rates they are creeping lower. He

177
00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,280
Speaker 12: did say they're open to more cuts, but they're going

178
00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,080
Speaker 12: to see how the data playouts and the moment. I

179
00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,280
Speaker 12: would make the comment that data is probably playing out

180
00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,000
Speaker 12: in favor of another twenty five basis point.

181
00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:27,560
Speaker 11: Can't tender.

182
00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,320
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting though, in the big gap over at

183
00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,280
Speaker 2: the Christmas period of course, now Scale, who didn't love

184
00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:32,720
Speaker 2: the apples?

185
00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:32,880
Speaker 13: Eh?

186
00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:33,760
Speaker 3: There you go.

187
00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,199
Speaker 12: So I feel this week somebody made the comment to

188
00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,160
Speaker 12: me this week that I've been a little bit downbeat

189
00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,839
Speaker 12: talking about on the data front. So here's a wee

190
00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,400
Speaker 12: nugget of positivity. So Scales not the biggest company on

191
00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,800
Speaker 12: the internets, I agree, But if you are a Scales shareholder,

192
00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,719
Speaker 12: you will have enjoyed an almost fifty percent lift in

193
00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,040
Speaker 12: the value of your investment so far this year, So.

194
00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,480
Speaker 11: I think that's pretty positive.

195
00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,959
Speaker 12: So amongst the economic malaise. There have been some pretty

196
00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,000
Speaker 12: good share price perfore. But just very quickly on scales,

197
00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,360
Speaker 12: it's in the agrisector. There's your first tailwind, it's involved

198
00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,800
Speaker 12: in exporting. There's your second tailwind. What's the third tailwind?

199
00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,840
Speaker 12: Mike pet food spinning on pets seems to be quite

200
00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:13,880
Speaker 12: recession proof. They've got the pet food there as well.

201
00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,680
Speaker 12: So yes, those scales announce the profit upgrade further increased

202
00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,120
Speaker 12: in earnest guidance for their twenty five financially underlying that

203
00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,200
Speaker 12: profit now expected between fifty four and fifty nine million.

204
00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,800
Speaker 12: That's an increase on the previous guidance. So we've got

205
00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,360
Speaker 12: to celebrate the winds. We've got to get a little

206
00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,480
Speaker 12: bit of positivity in there.

207
00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,360
Speaker 2: Mic very good and on that note, let's do the numbers.

208
00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,679
Speaker 12: Yeah, So actually the US markets sort of turned around

209
00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,080
Speaker 12: almost as we were speaking, so not quite sure what's

210
00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,240
Speaker 12: having there. The Dow Jones wasn't positive territory, it's now negative.

211
00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,880
Speaker 12: It's now down one hundred and thirty seven points, which

212
00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,880
Speaker 12: is point three percent, forty six thousand, one hundred and

213
00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,640
Speaker 12: thirty one. The S and P five hundred, let's call

214
00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,439
Speaker 12: it flat six sixty five oh is the mark, and

215
00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,320
Speaker 12: that's up five or six points, and the nastack down

216
00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,280
Speaker 12: thirty points. As we look at A point one three

217
00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,600
Speaker 12: percent twenty two thousand, four hundred ninety two, the forts

218
00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,960
Speaker 12: one hundred overnight lost point three percent. That's twenty eight

219
00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,400
Speaker 12: points ninety four to two for the close there, the

220
00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,000
Speaker 12: nick A forty seven than six hundred and seventy two,

221
00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:11,959
Speaker 12: it gained one and three quarter percent.

222
00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:12,560
Speaker 11: Very nice.

223
00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,880
Speaker 12: Shanghai composite up over one percent as well, three nine

224
00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:16,360
Speaker 12: one two.

225
00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,480
Speaker 11: They're the A six two hundred. Yes, they gained one.

226
00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,240
Speaker 12: Percent point nine one sorry, ninety one points eight nine

227
00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,240
Speaker 12: nine oh. And the insects fifty just over half percent

228
00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,400
Speaker 12: gain their thirty points. Thirteen thousand, three hundred and seven.

229
00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,760
Speaker 12: Now in the currency is a Kiwi dollar point five

230
00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,760
Speaker 12: seven to two oh, hanging in there against the US

231
00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,600
Speaker 12: point eight seven eight two ossie point four nine one

232
00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,199
Speaker 12: six against the euro point four two seven two pounds

233
00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,240
Speaker 12: eighty six point four nine Japanese yen gold four thousand,

234
00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,440
Speaker 12: one hundred and ninety five dollars. As I look at

235
00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,800
Speaker 12: it now, Brent crude here might just quick common sixty one.

236
00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,079
Speaker 11: Dollars and eighty three cents. But here's the butt. I

237
00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,040
Speaker 11: always look at it in New Zealand dollars as well.

238
00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,559
Speaker 12: You've got a much weaker currency, so actually it's not

239
00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,040
Speaker 12: fallen as much because of the weaker currency, so we're

240
00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,520
Speaker 12: paying more for that when we import it.

241
00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,240
Speaker 2: See you tomorrow, mate, Precire Andrew kelleher Sure and Partners.

242
00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,760
Speaker 2: Pasky Banking still works for Morgan Stanley. They blew everyone

243
00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,720
Speaker 2: away profit search forty five percent, four point sixty one billion,

244
00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,120
Speaker 2: revenues up eighteen percent. Stalantis, this will be a window

245
00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,640
Speaker 2: I can work out whether this is new or not.

246
00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:25,000
Speaker 2: But Stalantises have announced cars, of course, thirteen billion dollars

247
00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,839
Speaker 2: in US manufacturing. They're going to add more than five

248
00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,280
Speaker 2: thousand jobs new product plants in Michigan, Illinois, Indiana, and Ohio.

249
00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,120
Speaker 2: So that's that's to the Trump play. But no one

250
00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,400
Speaker 2: works out whether they've already done that, we're going to

251
00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,520
Speaker 2: do it anyway, or they've just announced it to try

252
00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,880
Speaker 2: and make themselves look better in the eyes of the President.

253
00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,520
Speaker 2: Six twenty one, Herid News Talks B.

254
00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:52,000
Speaker 1: The Vike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

255
00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,040
Speaker 1: by News Talks B.

256
00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:54,800
Speaker 14: Mike.

257
00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:56,680
Speaker 2: Four of our six kids are in their own home,

258
00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,160
Speaker 2: all while in their Twenties' oldest is now thirty one

259
00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,480
Speaker 2: two in Auckland, Christ just one and Fung rang no

260
00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,360
Speaker 2: help from the bank of Mum and Dad except telling

261
00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,560
Speaker 2: them anything's possible. So I'm very encouraged by that. This morning,

262
00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,000
Speaker 2: well done, we're doing okay, is and p think we're

263
00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,840
Speaker 2: doing OKAA plus. Our rating is a country stable outlook.

264
00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,760
Speaker 2: Size of the government deficit and the debt barriers are

265
00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,480
Speaker 2: a problem. Yet again, they need to be tackled. In

266
00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,760
Speaker 2: their words, I think we'd all agree with that, wouldn't

267
00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:25,400
Speaker 2: we A country's excellent institution's wealthy economy, moderate public indebtedness,

268
00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,280
Speaker 2: the current account deficit. I've raised this on the program.

269
00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,360
Speaker 2: I don't know how many times I keep saying a

270
00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,120
Speaker 2: good country does not have a current account deficit. But

271
00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,040
Speaker 2: the problem is we're fixated with importing stuff more than

272
00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,280
Speaker 2: they are with exporting stuff. And as much as we export,

273
00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,319
Speaker 2: we still want it because we don't make anything in

274
00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,240
Speaker 2: this country. We need to bring it in, so that's

275
00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,160
Speaker 2: where the deficit comes. Growth should gradually improve on the

276
00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,520
Speaker 2: back of strong exports and tourism and the effect of

277
00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,000
Speaker 2: falling interest rates on consumers spending. The tariffs, the US

278
00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,800
Speaker 2: tariffs they say are manageable, So that looks pretty good.

279
00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,920
Speaker 2: We're notch lower than Australia, but I think we'll take it.

280
00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:04,200
Speaker 4: Six twenty five trending with Chemist House Great savings every Day.

281
00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:04,439
Speaker 15: Yeah.

282
00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,319
Speaker 2: Kim Kardashians turned up on the Call of Daddy podcast,

283
00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,120
Speaker 2: possibly because she's got some new skim product to promote. Anyway,

284
00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,280
Speaker 2: She's ended up talking about her marriage to Kanye. She

285
00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,280
Speaker 2: didn't feel emotionally or financially safe.

286
00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,199
Speaker 16: I mean I would like come home and we had

287
00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,800
Speaker 16: like five Lamborghinis, and I'd come home and they'd all

288
00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,160
Speaker 16: be gone. You know, if he was in an episode

289
00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,320
Speaker 16: and I'd be like, oh wait, where's all our cars,

290
00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,920
Speaker 16: like my new car, and it would be like, oh,

291
00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,199
Speaker 16: he gave him away to all of his friends, and

292
00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,319
Speaker 16: then I'd be like huh okay. And then I'd come

293
00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,040
Speaker 16: home again, and at a different point we had five

294
00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,480
Speaker 16: more Lamborghinis, and then I'd wake up and another episode

295
00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:40,440
Speaker 16: and they'd all be gone again.

296
00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,880
Speaker 2: See, in my experience, she can have too many Lamborghinis.

297
00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:44,800
Speaker 2: I think that's one of longs.

298
00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:45,760
Speaker 17: How many is too many?

299
00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:50,200
Speaker 2: It's irickon too It too is too many. One's fine,

300
00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,560
Speaker 2: but you don't want to go at the top anyway.

301
00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,280
Speaker 2: She tried to help, but he wasn't having any of it.

302
00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,680
Speaker 16: When someone was, you know, isn't willing to make changes

303
00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,240
Speaker 16: that I think would be super healthy and beneficial, makes

304
00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,599
Speaker 16: it really hard to continue on in a relationship that

305
00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,559
Speaker 16: can be toxic anyway.

306
00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,720
Speaker 2: She says, has been a couple of months since Cannie

307
00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,720
Speaker 2: has seen the kids. Do we really want to delve

308
00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,920
Speaker 2: into her private life? Anyway? She's got these skim things

309
00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,600
Speaker 2: with pubic heir on. If you haven't seen those, that's

310
00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,840
Speaker 2: that's that's now a thing allegedly, So that's sort of

311
00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:22,640
Speaker 2: what are they?

312
00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,280
Speaker 17: It's very sort of Gwyneth Paltrow.

313
00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,680
Speaker 2: It's got a touch that Actually Gwyneth was out this

314
00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,720
Speaker 2: morning on another podcast telling us how proud she is

315
00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,200
Speaker 2: of her conscious uncoupling with Chris. So that's more stuff

316
00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,800
Speaker 2: that you probably don't need to know. And I've just

317
00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,440
Speaker 2: wandered into a massive hole that I now regret. The

318
00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,960
Speaker 2: Life and Times of Jim Bolger later on in the program,

319
00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,440
Speaker 2: of course, meantime, the news is next. You used to observe.

320
00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:56,160
Speaker 1: You're trusted home for news, sport, entertainment opinion and Mike

321
00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,120
Speaker 1: the Mic asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate. I mean

322
00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:03,520
Speaker 1: the buyers others can't use togs dead b jere mckenner.

323
00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,120
Speaker 2: Lively shortly mentioned Jolden made me a good Charlotte after

324
00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,080
Speaker 2: lady clock this morning at twenty three minutes away from

325
00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,640
Speaker 2: seven back here. Though you think you're paying a lot

326
00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,680
Speaker 2: for affairs, you are right, you report out this morning.

327
00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,280
Speaker 2: This is from the Airport Council International EACI. And then

328
00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,040
Speaker 2: that's a bit of a story. I suspect sixty three

329
00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,080
Speaker 2: percent increase in this country domestically since twenty nineteen an

330
00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,080
Speaker 2: airline tickets one of the highest in the world, Malaysia's

331
00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:28,120
Speaker 2: fifty three, Vietnams fifty two. It's inflationary pressures, they claim,

332
00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,200
Speaker 2: not airport charges. Now. Jeremy O'Brien's the New Zealand Chief

333
00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,600
Speaker 2: Customer and Digital Officer, and as well, it's Jeremy, good morning,

334
00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,800
Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike Kean. Very well. Indeed, so many how

335
00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,080
Speaker 2: many facts are we dealing with here versus how much

336
00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:40,200
Speaker 2: politics is at play?

337
00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:41,440
Speaker 3: Yeah?

338
00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,520
Speaker 18: Look, so I can only really speak to the data

339
00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,360
Speaker 18: that we've got, and you know, air data shows us

340
00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,400
Speaker 18: that over that period, air fears at thirty five percent,

341
00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,960
Speaker 18: and we understand that that that's a big increase. But

342
00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,320
Speaker 18: you know the reason for that is that costs are

343
00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,240
Speaker 18: up by out of forty percent, and so we haven't

344
00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,800
Speaker 18: passed aled that cost on to the consumer. But as

345
00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:05,120
Speaker 18: a high high cost market that is exagerating at the moment.

346
00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,120
Speaker 2: Do you get where they get their sixty three from?

347
00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,360
Speaker 18: Look, no, I don't really get where they get their

348
00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,640
Speaker 18: sixty three from. I look at air data and air

349
00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:17,040
Speaker 18: sacks that you know we report regularly, and so you know,

350
00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,560
Speaker 18: we're very confident in their sacks base and that that

351
00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,840
Speaker 18: base tells us that fears are up thirty five percent,

352
00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,280
Speaker 18: in our costs are up over forty per cent.

353
00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,680
Speaker 2: Now the marginal role of airport charges would you call

354
00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:28,320
Speaker 2: them marginal?

355
00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,200
Speaker 18: Well, look if I give you an example before, you know,

356
00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,320
Speaker 18: if you take it one way flight from Aubland to Wellington,

357
00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:39,000
Speaker 18: we now pay sixty dollars sixty two fees before that

358
00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,760
Speaker 18: aircraft even miss the ground. So you know that's a

359
00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,400
Speaker 18: pretty fit proportion of your costs. And if I look

360
00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,400
Speaker 18: at vand and charges and packs levies over automatically they're

361
00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,640
Speaker 18: up forty three percent in twenty nineteen and in FY

362
00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,480
Speaker 18: twenty six we expect they're going to be up to

363
00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,320
Speaker 18: sixty seventy six percent, So I wouldn't say that that's

364
00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:55,960
Speaker 18: a small amount.

365
00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,600
Speaker 2: In the report they talk of the so called single

366
00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,080
Speaker 2: till deals places like in you're in China where airports

367
00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,440
Speaker 2: are regulating, controlled by the government. Stuff. Is there anything

368
00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,560
Speaker 2: in that? I mean, are we just a completely different

369
00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:06,920
Speaker 2: model and it's pointless looking at it.

370
00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:08,040
Speaker 13: Oh?

371
00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,600
Speaker 18: Look, I think it is a different model, and you

372
00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,960
Speaker 18: know that is the model we're operating within within the market.

373
00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:15,800
Speaker 18: So you know, we have to run with the model

374
00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,199
Speaker 18: that accepted in this market, and that's what we try

375
00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:18,639
Speaker 18: to manage.

376
00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,199
Speaker 2: So where are we at with the airports? I mean

377
00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,880
Speaker 2: the ComCom I personally was surprised the other day when

378
00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,760
Speaker 2: they decided they didn't need to look at airports. I mean,

379
00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,480
Speaker 2: I would have thought the airports need looking at what's

380
00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:26,920
Speaker 2: your view?

381
00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:29,320
Speaker 3: Look?

382
00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,679
Speaker 18: I mean, as you is, we look at we need

383
00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,879
Speaker 18: to look at the whole aviation sector. The reality is

384
00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:39,480
Speaker 18: we've seen significant cost inflation in our semester environments that

385
00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:40,320
Speaker 18: we're operating within.

386
00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:41,600
Speaker 3: There's quite a lot.

387
00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,440
Speaker 18: Of capital going to airports around the country and The

388
00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,480
Speaker 18: reality is we are a reasonably small country with long

389
00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,080
Speaker 18: distances supply and air. Position would be that in many

390
00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,879
Speaker 18: cases we think we're over capitalizing and that it's going

391
00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,920
Speaker 18: to impact a long term sustainability and affordability of the

392
00:17:58,960 --> 00:17:59,879
Speaker 18: market here in New Zealand.

393
00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,040
Speaker 2: Doesn't change anything for the punter though. I mean, the

394
00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,720
Speaker 2: price is the price, and we hate the price.

395
00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:03,800
Speaker 11: Don't we.

396
00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,240
Speaker 18: Yeah, looking you know, I don't like the fact that

397
00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,800
Speaker 18: we're having to pay forty more in costs are either,

398
00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,680
Speaker 18: but it is the reality of what we're facing from

399
00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,880
Speaker 18: that cost environment perspective, and I think you know, all

400
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,320
Speaker 18: of us are from a New Zealand in perspective.

401
00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,159
Speaker 3: I would like it to not be as high inflation.

402
00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,320
Speaker 18: As it is, but the aviation spector at the moment

403
00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:28,200
Speaker 18: here domestically is facing significant exhilaration in cost Good.

404
00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,480
Speaker 2: On, Jeremy, appreciate it, Jeremy Oh Brian in New Zealand,

405
00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,840
Speaker 2: Chief Customer and Digital Officer. And never the Twain shall meet,

406
00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,399
Speaker 2: of course, And I'm keeping my eye on Cameroon, as

407
00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,399
Speaker 2: I said I would this. We haven't got any The

408
00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:38,879
Speaker 2: thing is they had a vote over the week in

409
00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,160
Speaker 2: the presidential vote, of course, and this bloke who runs

410
00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,840
Speaker 2: a bea forty three years in power ninety two years

411
00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,040
Speaker 2: of age, will be his eighth consecutive term. Already there's

412
00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,439
Speaker 2: one bloke claim victory, but he shouldn't do that because

413
00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:54,200
Speaker 2: the declaration flouts a government warning that any unilateral publication

414
00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:56,320
Speaker 2: of results would amount to high treason. This is a

415
00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,920
Speaker 2: constitutional council, so that blokes in trouble anyway. They also

416
00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,880
Speaker 2: this aforementioned council barred one of the blokes, the main

417
00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,320
Speaker 2: contender from I mean, the whole thing's dodgy. It's Africa,

418
00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,159
Speaker 2: for goodness sake. The whole thing's dodgy. But where what

419
00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,439
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. As they voted, there are a lot

420
00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,760
Speaker 2: of contenders for the job. B seems to be the

421
00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,240
Speaker 2: bloke who's going to get, which will make them a

422
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,120
Speaker 2: hundred by the time, because they only have votes every

423
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,159
Speaker 2: seven years, it will make them a hundred by the

424
00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,320
Speaker 2: time this is over. But we still, despite the fact

425
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,960
Speaker 2: that it's been a week, almost don't have any numbers yet.

426
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:23,760
Speaker 2: Nineteen to two.

427
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,440
Speaker 19: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio Power

428
00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,280
Speaker 19: It by News talks it B. So let's face it

429
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,880
Speaker 19: the way we do business has moved on, of course,

430
00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,919
Speaker 19: from the old land lines, the old face to face meetings.

431
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,960
Speaker 19: It's mainly online meaning the old.

432
00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 2: Internet connections vital vital investment ken we businesses of every

433
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:46,760
Speaker 2: size should ensure the Internet provides uncompromising reliability, bandwidth and

434
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,240
Speaker 2: a better restoration service to minimize that downtime, which is

435
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,360
Speaker 2: why New Zealand business runs of course on business fire.

436
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:55,400
Speaker 2: But you can experience seamless video calls, upload, download large

437
00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 2: files quick smart carry out the swift transactions, collaborate seamlessly

438
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,800
Speaker 2: online with cloud based all with business fiber. So get

439
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 2: your business ahead, stay ahead, future proof your connection as

440
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,399
Speaker 2: the workplace has become ever more digital. Plus, as a

441
00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 2: business fiber customer, you're going to get priority fault restoration,

442
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,639
Speaker 2: meaning your back up and running fast and minimizing the

443
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,280
Speaker 2: time spent offline. So to find out which fiber connection

444
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 2: would best suit your business, check out the Chorus recommendation tool.

445
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,399
Speaker 2: This is at Chorus dot co dot nz Ford slash

446
00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 2: business Fiber. Got it Chorus dot co dot nz Ford

447
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 2: slash business Fiber take your business productivity next level. Get

448
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,719
Speaker 2: your business running on business fiber. Pasky the latest thing

449
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,120
Speaker 2: with China and Trump they got the rare earth's he's

450
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 2: got the soybean issue. He's got to be in his

451
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 2: bonnet over the soybeans because China's not buying any of course,

452
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 2: in Minnesota's screaming at him. So he's now going to

453
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 2: terminate business doing with cooking oil. And he says, we

454
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 2: don't need your cooking oil. Anyone can make cooking oil.

455
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 2: We're going to make our own cooking oil. I don't

456
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 2: even know that's true. I don't know how do you

457
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 2: make cooking oil?

458
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,840
Speaker 17: And you make it out of soybeans? Perhaps, so then

459
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,440
Speaker 17: we have a nice secular there.

460
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 2: I don't think you use sunflower? Is that the thing?

461
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 2: You don't use? Palm sugar, palm oil or sunflower use?

462
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 2: I use olive when I use when I say I

463
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 2: don't cook, I don't know what the hell I'm talking about.

464
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 13: Six forty five International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance

465
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 13: Peace of Mind for New Zealand business.

466
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 2: It's olive oil you use, isn't it, Joe.

467
00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 20: I use olive oil every day, Michael.

468
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,399
Speaker 2: The heat things are problem, I'm told though, because it

469
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 2: smokes up a little bit on the low temps. Am

470
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 2: I right in saying that or I can do.

471
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 20: I find it pretty reliable. I think it's pretty good

472
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:32,640
Speaker 20: for your health.

473
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 2: Well, well, it's very good for your health. And if

474
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 2: you find it reliable, we all find it reliable. How

475
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 2: are you going that thing in Charmel Shake, where Maloney

476
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 2: was the other day. How's that been received in Italy?

477
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 20: Well, I think more broadly than Italy, it's creating a

478
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 20: bit of a social media sensation. But this love fest

479
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 20: between President Donald Trump and the Prime Minister Georgia Maloney.

480
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:59,240
Speaker 20: He's been endorsing her autobiography online. He's been telling everybody

481
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 20: she's an INSPI. When they were in Egypt at the

482
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,719
Speaker 20: Peace Summit, he was telling everybody she was beautiful as

483
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 20: she stood behind him.

484
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 2: So this is going on and on the biography. Have

485
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 2: you seen it? Read it? Is it any good? And

486
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 2: should I get a copy?

487
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 20: I knew you were going to ask me that I've been.

488
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 20: It's on my list of things to do. It's now

489
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 20: available in English, and I think I'm going to do

490
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 20: that and report back to you. What's interesting. What is

491
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 20: interesting about it is that they say she was bullied

492
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,719
Speaker 20: as a kid, and she was overweight and chubby at

493
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 20: school and had.

494
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 2: A harsh time of it, but Joe, weren't we all?

495
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 2: But I mean, you get on with life. What I

496
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 2: want to know is she of a robustness in life?

497
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: And does she have a backstory that's worthy of a

498
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: book worth me reading? Is all I really want to know.

499
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,639
Speaker 20: Yeah, Look, I think the early days are probably the

500
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 20: most interesting. You know, single mother, the mother was going

501
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 20: to have an abortion, decided to change her mind, father

502
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 20: ran away. There's a good early year's story there. I'm

503
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 20: not sure about the rest of it. It could be

504
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 20: heavy going.

505
00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 2: All right, well, let me know, get myself a copy.

506
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: At the summer period, now, the economic growth southern Italy

507
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 2: is booming. What's going is that? Like in Capri and

508
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: stuff like that.

509
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 20: Further south, so we're talking Colubria, Campagna Sicily. Surprisingly, they're

510
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 20: outpacing the rest of the country. But let's be honest here.

511
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 20: This is driven by EU investment funds that have been

512
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 20: released in that post COVID recovery plan that we've talked

513
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 20: about a bit. Now, in the last couple of years,

514
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 20: gross domestic product has risen eight point six percent down there,

515
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 20: compared to five point six percent nationally. So that is encouraging,

516
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 20: but what would you do without that EU investment surge?

517
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: That's what I say exactly. Now the Tuscan village is

518
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: the later. So this is rent. So we've talked a

519
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: number of times about a euro a lira whatever to

520
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: go by your house. You're dump in a small village

521
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 2: you've never heard of. So now they're paying rent.

522
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of like this.

523
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 20: Apparently, this little village that I've never heard of, called

524
00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 20: Raddikondoli near Siena, has been offering financial incentives for a while,

525
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 20: launched a scheme towards the cost of buying a vacant

526
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 20: property and incentives towards energy bills and so on. Now

527
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 20: they're expanding that to rentals, and they're promising to cover

528
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,479
Speaker 20: half the first two years of rent for new tenants

529
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 20: who come into the town.

530
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: I reckon that's the way to go, because all I've

531
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,719
Speaker 2: done quite a bit of study on this, because I'm

532
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 2: looking to retire in Italy.

533
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 15: Joe.

534
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this, because I'll be

535
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 2: coming around to your place to stay initially. Anyway, I'm looking.

536
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 2: I'm thinking the rint if you could get in their

537
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 2: rent and it doesn't work out in the village or whatever,

538
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,239
Speaker 2: you can leave town. Whereas if you've bought your kind

539
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 2: of stuck, aren't you.

540
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 20: Yeah, I think it's a great idea. And they promised

541
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 20: to have a website there in English, and I had

542
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 20: a look tonight and it was only an Italian So

543
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 20: I will stay on that and come back to here.

544
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: Well, actually you're busy this week, Joe, because you've got

545
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: the book and now you've got my retirement plans as well,

546
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 2: So if you could just get home to the awesome

547
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 2: nice to see you, Joe, mckinna and Italy. By the way,

548
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 2: while we're on Trump, I'm sure you're up on it.

549
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 2: He's basically interfering now. In the Argentinian election, Malay was there.

550
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 2: They've gone and bought this, seems to be in charge

551
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 2: of this. They've got and bought Pasos. It's an interesting story, Malay.

552
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: He went in all guns blazing, very thatcherresque. This is

553
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: why Trump likes him. It seems economically to have worked.

554
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: But he's got a bit of fade going. In other words,

555
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 2: people are kind of over it because it requires pain.

556
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: People don't like pain. People don't like change. And with

557
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 2: the midterms coming up, there's a question mark as to

558
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 2: whether he can in fact remain empowering me the presidential elections,

559
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 2: not for a couple of years, but the midterms might

560
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: hobble them. So they've interfered in the economy. They've gone

561
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: aboard a lot of pasos and supported the economy generally

562
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 2: in the currency. Trump also says we're not going to

563
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 2: be as generous if Malay doesn't do well, So that's

564
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 2: direct interference, but no one seems to mind these days.

565
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 2: Trump can do whatever he wants. Meantime, HeiG Seth while

566
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: we're on the broad subject of the Trump administration, that

567
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: deadlines come and gone on the Pentagon, and it seems

568
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 2: basically be everyone's handed in their past. They tried to

569
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: negotiat with the Press office. No one was for moving.

570
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 2: And there's one outlets called One American Use. It's a

571
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 2: very minor Trump pro Trump thing, but no one else

572
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: has brought into it. Fox haven't Newsmax, haven't Daily Caller,

573
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 2: haven't that. The mainstream media haven't. So as far as

574
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 2: I can work out, no one covers the Pentagon anymore.

575
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: Nine to seven, The.

576
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 4: Mic Hosking Breakfast with The Defender and News tog sadb.

577
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,120
Speaker 2: I must come back to this. Remember the Japanese woman

578
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 2: we got all excited about the other day that she

579
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 2: was going to be the next prime minister. Might not

580
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 2: be the case because things have collapsed and things getting

581
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: a bit tricky. But I'll need some more time on

582
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: that later. Mike may I sugg just avocado oil. Well,

583
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 2: you can, beautiful flavor, a little bit higher smoke point. Yeah,

584
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: fair col Mike, coconut oil much, but I'm not a

585
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 2: coconut fan. The coconut milk, the coconut water, the coconut

586
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: Fat's not good for you. It is not good for you, Mike.

587
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 2: Jim Bolge's lisp sometimes unkindly labeled potato mouth. His was

588
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: a political rain with a feel good sound bites of

589
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: a rural flavor unwittingly chose the right time to the

590
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: top spot. Not especially bright, maybe too much time in

591
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: the king country scrum. Nonetheless, a damn good all rounder,

592
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: sat down.

593
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 17: I don't think we needed the potato dry fire. And

594
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 17: also I don't think it was the mouth. People said

595
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 17: that he had a face like a potato, didn't they.

596
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: Yes, And also the ability to pick up an accent

597
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 2: in a foreign country in just an amazing.

598
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 17: Ability, great memicory skills could.

599
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 2: Be there within twelve hours in Washington. You swear he

600
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: was born in the United States, five minutes away from

601
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: seven B.

602
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 4: The ins and the outs.

603
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: It's the beiz with business fiber, take your business productivity

604
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: to the next level.

605
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: Wait to tell you the old Watties thing's taken another

606
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: turn this morning. So we're talking about the peaches. A

607
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: week or so back, local grays being overlooked in favor

608
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 2: of these cheaper imports and now unfortunately further reducing the

609
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 2: fruit and vegi crop. This time we're dealing with beetfruit, corn,

610
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,719
Speaker 2: and tomatoes. Demand for the canned foods has been in decline,

611
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 2: they argued since the cyclone, and until it seems to

612
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: demand increased, things will not change. They'll continue to blame

613
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: the reduction in demand alleged dumping. This is the weirdest story,

614
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: and I've got to spend more time on this. Some

615
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,640
Speaker 2: stats suggest we do have an issue of dumping from

616
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: places like China. Chinese peach import volumes I told you

617
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,239
Speaker 2: this the other day, right, increased from three hundred kilosndred

618
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 2: thousand kilos in a quarter to just below eight hundred

619
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 2: and thirty one kilos three hundred thousand to eight hundred

620
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: and thirty one mby looked at it and they said, yeah,

621
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 2: there's dumping going on there. And what did they do?

622
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 2: Nothing because they argued it didn't affect the domestic market. Now,

623
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: I can't work out how they conclude that anyway. Point being,

624
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: the other side of this equation is for all the

625
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 2: people who go around going I like local, I want

626
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: to support local. I love New Zealand made. It's all crap,

627
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 2: you don't. It's all price related. He imports some dirty,

628
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 2: smelly little bit of fruit in a rusty old ten

629
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: and pay three cents.

630
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 17: You think we're going to have to do a blind

631
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 17: test past.

632
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, year in there like you're in there like a

633
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: robber's dog, right, Simming and Brown. He's got a big

634
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: speech coming up today. I've read the speech. He's going

635
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: to go at the senior doctors. He's sick of the

636
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: senior doctors because they're yet another collection of people who

637
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 2: are going on. And he's going to run this line

638
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: again about the morning three hundred and forty four thousand dollars,

639
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: and the moment he does that, everyone's going to.

640
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 11: Go no, we don't.

641
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: I know, doctor runs three cents and he only gets

642
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: a day off for a year and all that sort

643
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: of thing. So anyway, he's on the program shortly, so

644
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: Bill English. He is coming on as something completely different,

645
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: but it turns out it's apt to given he spent

646
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: quite a bit of time with Jim Bolder, of course.

647
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: And then if you like your music, Benji and Joel Madden,

648
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: how they got back together? Good Charlotte are back together.

649
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: They've dropped a new album. How they got back together

650
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 2: is quite a cool story. Anyway, they're both Weather's up

651
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: to eight o'clock as the Mike Hosking Breakfast rolls on

652
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: for this Thursday morning. The news is next.

653
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: He with his talks Edree, the newsmakers and the personalities,

654
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: the big names talk to Mike the Mic Hosking Breakfast

655
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: with Veda, Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way News Talks head be.

656
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: Only seven past seven. So the Health Minister today will

657
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: make one last pitch to senior doctors to stop the strike.

658
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: They projected one hundred and sixty million dollar offer. As

659
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: a result, sixty three hundred elective procedures will be canceled,

660
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 2: twelve six hundred specialist assessments delayed. Simeon Brown's with us morning.

661
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 17: Good Morning Mike.

662
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: So four separate strikes this year, how much of it

663
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: do you think is is a real case, a heartfelt

664
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: case that they feel hard done by, versus the union's

665
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: just don't like a national government.

666
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 7: My view is this is politics over patients. The union

667
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 7: is deciding that they are going to disrupt the care

668
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 7: of patients in order to make their point, rather than

669
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 7: actually to sit down and negotiate through an offer. We've

670
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 7: put offer after offer.

671
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 11: On the table.

672
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 7: There's been facilitation. I've written to the Union and Health

673
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 7: New Zealand requesting both parties to enter into binding arbitration

674
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 7: so that an independent third party can make a decision,

675
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 7: and the Union rejected that offer as well. So my

676
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 7: view this is politics over patients, and ultimately patients are

677
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 7: the ones losing out. And that's my message that I'm

678
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 7: going to be providing very clearly to the union today

679
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 7: and saying call off the strike and let's actually work

680
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 7: through this as adults, rather than simply cancel care for

681
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 7: thousands of patients.

682
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: Do you think you should change the law and binding

683
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: arbitration compulsory after receipt period of steps that don't work well.

684
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 7: I think that's something we need to consider because clearly

685
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 7: what we're seeing here is a union that isn't actually

686
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 7: willing to sit down and actually work these things through.

687
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 7: And even though we've put that offer on the table

688
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 7: for them to voluntarily enter into binding arbitration, they've rejected that,

689
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 7: which clearly, in my opinion, shows that they're playing politics

690
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 7: here rather than actually being serious and trying to find

691
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 7: a way through it. In my view, it's unethical for

692
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 7: senior doctors the union, for the Senior Doctor's Union to

693
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 7: be to be striking. The unions represents thousands of doctors

694
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 7: who have a critical role in providing healthcare for New Zealanders,

695
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 7: and they are leaders in our health care space and

696
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 7: they should be showing leadership rather than playing politics with patients' lives.

697
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 7: There's many challenges and issues in our healthcare system. We

698
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 7: should work those through around the table rather than canceling

699
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 7: care for patients. And ultimately it's patients who are losing

700
00:31:59,520 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 7: out here.

701
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: Out to your line, one of your lines in your speech.

702
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 2: Rights come with responsibilities, and right now, the strike is

703
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 2: a choice, not a necessity. When would it be a necessity.

704
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it's whatever necessity is it?

705
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 7: Well, I think when it comes to our seeing, you

706
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 7: know that this union and the members it represents, ultimately

707
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 7: these issues should be resolved around the bargaining table. There

708
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 7: may well be circumstances, but my point here is they

709
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 7: have had offer after offer, They've had the opportunity of

710
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 7: binding arbitration. They've rejected everything along the way. In fact,

711
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 7: the last strike, they rejected the offer and started balloting

712
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 7: their members on exactly the same day to go for

713
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 7: another strike. That does not show good faith. That just

714
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,719
Speaker 7: shows playing politics with patients' lives. And there are too

715
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 7: many people waiting on these waiting lists. We've seen good

716
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 7: progress getting those waiting lists down, but if this type

717
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 7: of behavior continues, this union will be responsible for those

718
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 7: waiting lists increasing.

719
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: Again, how confident are you with the numbers you keep quoting?

720
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: The three hundred and forty three thousand, five hundred plus

721
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 2: the six weeks and you'll leave, plus the paid conference leave,

722
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: plus access to the fully paid three months of bat

723
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: a celebrity, six years, five percent base increase over the

724
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: sixteen months, additional automatic annual steps increase. How confident are

725
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 2: you on those numbers because every time you raise them

726
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: people say you're making it up.

727
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 7: Well, that's all on advice from Health New Zealand. The

728
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 7: average earnings of including overtime and allowances for members of

729
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 7: the asms union is three hundred and forty three five

730
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 7: hundred dollars. In their contractual terms, they get six weeks

731
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 7: and you'll leave every six years. They get a three

732
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 7: month sabbatical which equates effectively another two weeks and you'll

733
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 7: leave per year. They get other allowances for conferences, time

734
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 7: to go to conferences, which is thinks I think it's

735
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 7: another two weeks per year. So there is a significant

736
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 7: generosity in the terms and conditions these in the contract

737
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 7: here and ultimately what we're saying here is to the

738
00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 7: union put patients first, let's deal all with these issues

739
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 7: the right way. And today really is their last chance

740
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 7: to cancel next week's strike and to get back to

741
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 7: actually dealing with us the way it should be dealt with.

742
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: I wish you well with it's Simony and Brown who's

743
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: in front of the doctors today, Health Minister with us

744
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: this morning. I've read his speech and it's going to

745
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 2: be fascinating to see how it goes down. And he's

746
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 2: walking into a liones. Then, of course, eleven minutes past seven,

747
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: you'll report this morning Endo the cost of state housing

748
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: current seventy seven thousand. Coying at Aura homes cost us

749
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: the taxpayer twice as much as the private sector. Basically,

750
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: it wants tenants to have a greater choice of landlord. Now,

751
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: so Bill English was part of the independent review of

752
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: Cayeing at Aura and as whether it's to Bill, very

753
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 2: good morning to you.

754
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 5: Good morning Mike.

755
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 2: You've got some advice for Simeon. You've been Minister of health.

756
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 14: Look, there's been a lot you know, sim and previous ministers,

757
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 14: including under the Labor government, put a lot of extra

758
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 14: money into health, and I can understand why it feels

759
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 14: a bit frustrated, and there's a lot of people need

760
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 14: care and it does look a bit political.

761
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, so broadly, just let me broaden it out before

762
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: we get to the specifics of this report. When you

763
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: went in to have a look at kaying Aura, what

764
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: did you find? How bad was it?

765
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 11: Then?

766
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: What's your view of the turnaround thus far?

767
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 14: Look, I think they're doing a good job of the turnaround.

768
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 14: It's a big job. It's the biggest business in the

769
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 14: country by quite a long way, and a difficult one

770
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 14: to run because it's so big. So we found an

771
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 14: organization that had been following the directions of its previous

772
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 14: political masters on the previous labor government, and they were

773
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 14: spending very large amounts of money, running up very large

774
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 14: amounts of debt and getting some new houses, but not

775
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 14: near enough for the money that was going in. But

776
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 14: also there was a loss of focus on the tenant.

777
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 14: And the point of social housing is to change lives,

778
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 14: and that means focusing on the people more than the houses.

779
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 14: And it means who owns the houses is less important

780
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 14: than what you're doing to support the tenants.

781
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: Is seventy seven thousand and two men for kyeing or

782
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 2: to own? And of seventy seven thousands too many? What's

783
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: the right ish sort of number? What's the split? What

784
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: should it be?

785
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,919
Speaker 14: Well, you start from the start from the front life.

786
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 14: All solutions, how all housing solutions are local, and all

787
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 14: housing solutions are about individuals and families. So you know

788
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 14: how many, how many? How many houses should someone own

789
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 14: who is supporting and understanding the needs of tenants and

790
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 14: taking part in the community. What do you need A

791
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 14: bit of scale, you know, probably a few thousand houses.

792
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 14: I think Tomachy Redevelopment Company has got about five thousand.

793
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 14: That looks about looks about a good scale. What we

794
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 14: found though, was an impressive energy and innovation with everyone

795
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 14: from Autism Zealand to EWI and ngngo's private developers who

796
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 14: can do a better job of this than eyeing aura

797
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 14: that there's no economies of scale the seventy seven thousand houses.

798
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 14: In fact, as the report shows, the opposite, the larger

799
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 14: the business, the more it's costing to do the houses. Now,

800
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 14: the current board will make the best of it. But

801
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 14: the best solutions we saw were with the ten or

802
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 14: fifteen thousand houses that are subsidized like state houses because

803
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 14: the government has to pay, but are run by people

804
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,320
Speaker 14: who really understand the tenants, really understand their community and

805
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 14: get great results from it.

806
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 21: All.

807
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: Right, let's see where it goes while we've got you

808
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: your thoughts this morning.

809
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 14: On Jim Bolgia, Ah, look it was I was wet

810
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 14: with Jim Bulger for many years in politics. He was

811
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 14: such an interesting mix. He was a conservative Taranaki farmer

812
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 14: who had the courage to kick off the treaty settlement process,

813
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 14: took on his own party an election year in nineteen

814
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 14: ninety six to sign the Knight Who and Taiinui settlements,

815
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 14: So you underneath the political maneuvering was a will of

816
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 14: steel and some principle people forget. He was also the

817
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 14: guy who bought in MMP, made a promise in the

818
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 14: nineteen ninety election campaign to have a referendum, oversaw that process,

819
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 14: accepting the will of the people, although he didn't personally

820
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 14: favor ingm MP, and then in nineteen ninety six negotiated

821
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 14: the first coalition. So he was just a fascinating character.

822
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 14: Such a mix of being true to his background from Taranaki,

823
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 14: his Catholic beliefs, his deep deep love of family on

824
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 14: the one hand, and on the other hand, executing some

825
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 14: of the more radical changes that New Zealand has seen.

826
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 14: And I have to say at the time didn't get

827
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 14: much credit for it, and I think his reputation has

828
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 14: grown with the benefit of hindsight. Our history is looking

829
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 14: kindly on.

830
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 2: Jim Bolger very well said, appreciate your time, So Bill

831
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: English at a sixteen past.

832
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on Iheartrate Howard

833
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: by News talks.

834
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: It'd be good to hear from Bill English. Again. He

835
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: doesn't do much media these days, one of those people

836
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: who at the end of political life sort of disappeat

837
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 2: I mean each active obviously, he just doesn't do it publicly.

838
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: And he makes a very good point about the treaty

839
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: settlement process and I'm reminded of a wonderful bloke, Doug Graham,

840
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 2: and ended in tears. And I don't need to go

841
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: into that, obviously, but the most productive Minister of Treaty

842
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: Relations was Doug Graham. And the period of time that

843
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 2: Bolgier oversaw with treaty relations in this country was unmatched

844
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: and was a tremendously productive time between the Crown and Maori. Now,

845
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: speaking of politics yesterday, I think my advice to the

846
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: Prime Minister yesterday actually worked. If you were watching question time,

847
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: Luxton was on fire, which was good, but unfortunately some

848
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: people didn't see it that way.

849
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 8: I heard some criticism this morning of his performance in

850
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 8: the House.

851
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: Well I looked at them, mat and with that perspective

852
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: today he performs I think very well. You're talking about

853
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 2: what Mike said.

854
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 17: Yes, I think Mike's.

855
00:39:58,400 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 14: Got a point.

856
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 2: He doesn't because he I don't know whether he nobody

857
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 2: knows politics like Mike knows that of course, which he

858
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 2: continually tells us.

859
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 4: It's quite a good burn.

860
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 2: It wasn't a bad burn. But where Barry made the

861
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: critical mistake is Luxton was good in the house yesterday.

862
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: Ask yourself why he was good in the house, Barryechnaker,

863
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: I agree with Mike, but I do.

864
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 22: Of course you'd agree with you.

865
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: Hosts are all the same.

866
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 11: No, we're not.

867
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: Seven the Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart

868
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: Radio powered by News Talks be.

869
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: Hi, Mike. I'd love to be a fly on the

870
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 2: wall when Heather and Barry have a disagreement. Dan, those

871
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: two are in permanent counseling. It's it's I mean, what

872
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: can I say when it comes to investing, by the way,

873
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,959
Speaker 2: finding the right place for your run the hard earned

874
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 2: savings to call home can be a little bit tricky.

875
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 2: So somewhere you may not have explored SBS Bank. Now

876
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: they've been in business in this country forever. They've been

877
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: in the business in this country for longer than Barry

878
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,479
Speaker 2: So has been alive Hunt just one hundred and fifty

879
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: six years. And not only pride themselves on providing great

880
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 2: rates for investors they're passionately invested in their community as well.

881
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: SBS call it conserving the Kiwi dream, basically helping ke

882
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: we say for the dream futures while hoping helping those

883
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: first home buyers into those dream homes. So what does

884
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: the key we dream look like to you? Is it

885
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: a comfortable retirement? Is it a dream trip somewhere? While

886
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: SBS Bank they're offering the Great Term Deposit special rate

887
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: of four point three five percent for six months to

888
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: help that bring that dream a little bit closer. So

889
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 2: feel good investing in your Kiwi dream at a great

890
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: rate while conserving the key we dream for generations to come.

891
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: Rates the subject to change. Minimum investment terms and conditions apply.

892
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 2: Offer available for a limited time only. Obviously go to

893
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: sbsbank dot Co dot Nz search term Investment, Start banking

894
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 2: with Heart, Sbsbank dot Co dot Nz Asking now seven

895
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: twenty four and one of Live's small ironies speaking of

896
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: industrial action, as the teachers spend another week immersed in

897
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: industrial action, I got an email yesterday from a bloke

898
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: who was taught by my mother in the nineties. My

899
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: mum was a teacher and I'm pretty sure she never

900
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: went on strike. I certainly don't remember a picket line

901
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: at our place, a placard, or days at home when

902
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: I was a kid. In fact, even as a kid,

903
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: as a student, I don't remember having a day off

904
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: school because of strikes. I do remember a lot of

905
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: kids in the classroom, thirty something kids in the classroom,

906
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 2: one of the day's great complaints. Of course, didn't seem

907
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: to be an issue then, or if it was, we

908
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: just got on with it. I also remember we didn't

909
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: have a lot at home. Given teachers didn't get paid

910
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: all that much then, don't now sort of well, I mean,

911
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 2: you can say these days that quite a few teachers

912
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: are earning a six figure salary, so we've reached a

913
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 2: point where at least some are pretty well rewarded. Anyway,

914
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 2: the email, out of the blue, he writes and tells

915
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: me he was taught by my mum, who had inspired

916
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: him into teaching, which is where he is to this day.

917
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: And he was back in the old hometown for a

918
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 2: week or so and was hoping to catch up with

919
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,439
Speaker 2: mum so he could buy her a coffee and thank

920
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: her for her inspiration. And that to me is the

921
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: essence of teaching. You were in it for the right

922
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: reasons and as a result, you were passionate about what

923
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 2: you did. Result of that passion it rubbed off on

924
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: some of those around you. It's not a bad thing,

925
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: don't you think to think back thirty odd years and

926
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,800
Speaker 2: remember why you are doing what it is you do

927
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: and pin it in part down to a single person

928
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: or motivation, and then, having done that, reach out and

929
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 2: want to in some way pay it back. How many

930
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: teachers today do it for the right reasons and are

931
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 2: genuinely passionate and want others to carry the torch. How

932
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: many know the pay is never great, but that's not

933
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: why you do it. How many on the packet line

934
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 2: out of the classroom today, We'll get an email in

935
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 2: thirty years time thanking them for their hard work and

936
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: wanting to acknowledge the influence in the answer. Maybe the

937
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: difference between then and now asking Someone texted me about

938
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: Bolger and said, isn't he the one who gave us MMP? No,

939
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: we gave ourselves the MMP. It was called a referendum.

940
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 2: You count blame. We voted for it for goodness sake.

941
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,440
Speaker 2: The funny thing about Jim Bolgia. I can't work out

942
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: whether he was covering his true care when he was

943
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: in power. Three terms success story can't argue with that.

944
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 2: I don't rate him personally that highly as a prime minister,

945
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 2: but three terms you can't argue with. Came to an

946
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 2: end when he left the country. In Shipley Rolldham. He

947
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: beat maclay of course to become leader of the opposition.

948
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: That was quite interesting at the time. McLay sh had

949
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: never been the leader of the opposition, but he was

950
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: never going to last in Bulge U s aw to that.

951
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: But I can't work out where a Bolgia was pretending

952
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: to be a conservative while he was prime minister, because

953
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: in later life, of course, he got hired by the

954
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 2: Labor government to do that fair paything. The last thing

955
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 2: really he was in public life. He was doing that

956
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: fair paything, and he came up with the idea that

957
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 2: ten percent of people in the workforce, if you wanted,

958
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 2: you know, sort of a cross industry, pan industry type agreement,

959
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: you should all have it, which struck me as a

960
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 2: very left leaning, very labour esque, very pro union type

961
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 2: of approach. And I thought did he mellow in older

962
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: age or was he always like that. He just tried

963
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: to hide it round as national mates could never work

964
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: out the answer to that. Let's get stuck into the

965
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 2: BSA and a couple of moment shall.

966
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 4: We credible compelling the breakfast show.

967
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 13: You can't miss.

968
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: It's the mic hosting Breakfast with the Defender. Embrace the

969
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: impossible news, Tom sa'd b Michael.

970
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: When you're at school. Teachers had compulsory arbitration, which they

971
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: won most of the time, but the Longee government took

972
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 2: it away and gave teachers the right to strike, which

973
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 2: they didn't want. Well, I'm not sure that's strictly true,

974
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: but it's interesting what Sumi and Browns said. The're going

975
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: to have to change the law and arbitration. You can't

976
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: recommend arbitration. We just keep turning it down. Mike Bolger's

977
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 2: big mistake was adding MARI suits to the already proportional

978
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,240
Speaker 2: MMP system, forever distorting it and giving them the balance

979
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: of power. Well that's not true either. They don't have

980
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 2: the balance of power. But you are right in the

981
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: sense that under an MMP system there is no need

982
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: for race based seats. Twenty three minutes away from.

983
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 23: Eight thou thank you the old Madden Good Charlotte back

984
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 23: together again.

985
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 2: How they got back together again? It is quite a

986
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: good story anyway, they are back together again and this

987
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: new album, and they're coming here and we'll have some

988
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: details when they join us after eight o'clock. Meantime, the

989
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: Broadcasting Standards Authority seems to be making a big play

990
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: over their jurisdiction now. They visioned the issued a provisional

991
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 2: decision and claiming jurisdiction over a complaint that involves online

992
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 2: radio or an online program. This is the platform they

993
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 2: claim new media falls under the Broadcasting Act. Stacy Woods,

994
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: the Chief Executive of the Broadcasting Standards Authority, and it's

995
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: whether us good morning, good night, you're reaching here a

996
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 2: bit or not?

997
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 15: Yesid no. We are applying the Act that we have,

998
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 15: but it is the first time that we've done so

999
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 15: in this way.

1000
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: Why now?

1001
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 15: Why now? Because we've received a complaint that sets the

1002
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 15: definition and we meets our formal requirements. We can only

1003
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 15: act when we receive a complaint and we feel that

1004
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 15: we're required to in accordance with the Act.

1005
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 2: I've got the clause of the Broadcasting Act in front

1006
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 2: of me.

1007
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 15: I'll go to the lot of people died.

1008
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I can see why you've gone there, But

1009
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 2: equally I can mount an argument as to why you wouldn't,

1010
00:46:58,560 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 2: So why have you chosen the former.

1011
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 15: We've spent a long time thinking about this. We've been

1012
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 15: the regulator for thirty six years. Obviously I haven't been

1013
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 15: there the whole time, but we have thought about this

1014
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 15: a lot, discussed it a lot, talked to a lot

1015
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 15: of people about it. And this isn't a position we've

1016
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 15: developed over night. We actually published it back in twenty

1017
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 15: nineteen said we're going to do a full scale review

1018
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 15: of our jurisdiction. Twenty twenty regulatory review was put on

1019
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 15: the cards. There was an election coming with you, we're

1020
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 15: going to pause the full review. But if a complaint

1021
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 15: comes along about an online broadcaster, will consider it. And

1022
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 15: that's what's happened.

1023
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 2: Difficulty with it if I was advising you, which are not, obviously,

1024
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 2: but the difficulty with the complaint you're dealing with it's

1025
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 2: in what I would term a fairly you know, it's

1026
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: an inconsequential complaint. It's some winduris says you know, so

1027
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: and so said, so you know this isn't This isn't

1028
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 2: a dying the ditch type decision that you could you

1029
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 2: could stand behind.

1030
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 15: Well, we haven't considered the merits of the complaint, and

1031
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 15: I can't talk about that. But what I would say

1032
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 15: is the Act doesn't give us that discretion when accepting

1033
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 15: a complaint. The authoritady has the power to uphold, not uphold,

1034
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 15: or decline to determine. But even in making that decision,

1035
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 15: it needs to accept for consideration every complaint that meets

1036
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 15: the very basic formal requirements of the Acts. So my

1037
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 15: hands are sort of tied if we accept that transmission

1038
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 15: of a program by means of telecommunication includes the Internet.

1039
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but do you I mean, obviously you've thought about it,

1040
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: so you hand down your decision, whatever that decision is

1041
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: in the individual's circumstances. But you are now in this space,

1042
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 2: and being in this space, you set a precedent. And

1043
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 2: the precedent you set is worrying, isn't it? Because what's

1044
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 2: the difference between the platform online and the mic Hosking

1045
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: Facebook page.

1046
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 15: And that's a great question, and that is why we've

1047
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,720
Speaker 15: been saying for fifteen years legislative change is the cleanest

1048
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 15: way to solve this, because there are some programs online

1049
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 15: that clearly fit within the definition of the Act. There's

1050
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 15: a whole lot of question marks on other kinds of

1051
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,919
Speaker 15: media that are online, and we, as a very small

1052
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 15: Crown entity, don't have the power to legislate the whole

1053
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 15: Internet to site what people think. It's very gratifying, but

1054
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 15: we don't want to regulate everybody.

1055
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 14: No, not clarity.

1056
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 11: No.

1057
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 2: But you're opening the door to you doing that, aren't you?

1058
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 11: Now?

1059
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 2: If I complain, if I lay complaining against my wife's

1060
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: Instagram account, what are your hands equally tired? And you

1061
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: must now look at that.

1062
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 15: We've said that we're going to assist online complaints on

1063
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 15: a case by case basis, and we have previously said

1064
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 15: that things like social media don't seem as clearly within

1065
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,919
Speaker 15: the purpose of the Act. However, we acknowledge these broadcasters

1066
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 15: that simultaneously broadcast on their own channels, terrestrial channels, their

1067
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 15: Facebook pages. So yeah, good, very good question, and we

1068
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 15: look forward to determining those complaints if we can.

1069
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 2: So, what is it about Shawn's oper because we speak,

1070
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: of course of Sean Plunkett. Is it the fact he's

1071
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 2: in a so called studio with a microphone and looks

1072
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 2: like it could be a radio program as opposed to

1073
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: my wife's Instagram account, and she's standing in a field

1074
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 2: saying perhaps allegedly the same thing, but without the format

1075
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 2: of a studio.

1076
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1077
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 15: I mean, part of it is the wording of the act.

1078
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 15: But yeah, it's applying a pragmatic, pragmatic lens to it.

1079
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 15: Does it look like radio? Does it sound like radio?

1080
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1081
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 2: You can't say, so, you can't possibly ask does it

1082
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 2: look like radio? Does it sound what? What an earth?

1083
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 15: When you go to well, when I excess radio, for instance,

1084
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 15: I don't use a radio yet, so the way I

1085
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 15: excess R and D National for instance, as I go

1086
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 15: to their website and press a button to listen live.

1087
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 2: Well, that's your festive mistake, isn't it.

1088
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 15: As an example, when I'm listening to the microfting groups,

1089
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 15: they might do the same. But when you go to

1090
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 15: Sean's website, you do the same thing. Why does Wi

1091
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 15: Fi differ from radio waves? Yeah?

1092
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: Does the government need to step in here and do something?

1093
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: I mean, my only concern for you is that this

1094
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: is Pandora's box personified, isn't it?

1095
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 14: Yep?

1096
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 15: And we would like to be they just let it

1097
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 15: change to clarify this for us because we have eight

1098
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 15: staff and we're required to consider a resumplaint that comes

1099
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 15: to us, so we can easily see that this concern

1100
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 15: unto all workload management issue for us.

1101
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 2: Would you find not that this and this is my

1102
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: great criticism of the bsas I'm sure you're well aware anyway,

1103
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: is that most of the decisions you make are of

1104
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: no great consequence, and you go so and so said this,

1105
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 2: and you shouldn't have done it, and that's the end

1106
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 2: of that. If you were to find in the Platform's

1107
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 2: case something substantive, you won't in this obvious instance. But

1108
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 2: in a serious complaint, if you found something substantive that

1109
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: required a fine or some sort of penalty that ends

1110
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: up in court, doesn't I mean? Is where this ultimately

1111
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 2: will be decided?

1112
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 15: Sadly, Yeah, our decisions can be appealed to the High Court.

1113
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 15: There's obviously also opportunity for judicial review, and people are

1114
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 15: welcome to use whatever legal avenues are available to them.

1115
00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 15: I know that Sean's very emotional about the receiving our

1116
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 15: decision yesterday, and I can understand that it's intimidating to

1117
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 15: leave a letter from a regulator. Well, maybe not for you,

1118
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 15: you're seasoned, but the look out. We don't actually have

1119
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 15: the power to shut people down. As you know, if

1120
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 15: we assure a decision.

1121
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 2: Any lacy light, you want to shut me down.

1122
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 15: The only appeals that we've had in the last year

1123
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 15: are actually that decision that we haven't upheld, which I

1124
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 15: find interesting. So people shouldn't be too worried. I feel

1125
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 15: that if people look at what we're wanting and what

1126
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 15: we're saying, and what our acts is, the comparison to

1127
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 15: Nazi Germany might start to fall away.

1128
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 2: Now, Okay, it's good to talk to your preciate a

1129
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: very much fascinating subject. I don't know if the wider

1130
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 2: world's fascinated by it, but certainly I am, because if

1131
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 2: I was in charge of anything, I'd stop the BSA immediately.

1132
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 2: Because the industry runs itself perfectly professionally. I can't remember

1133
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: the last time they made a decision that was a

1134
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: profound decision on a very serious complaint where somebody had

1135
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 2: overtly crossed the line to a level that most New

1136
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 2: Zealanders would go, geez, we need someone to step in

1137
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,800
Speaker 2: here and get this thing under control. And in the

1138
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 2: shorn Platform case, it's somebody. I think he used the

1139
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 2: term mumbo jumbo referring to some Mari content, and that's

1140
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 2: the sort of stuff they deal with on an ongoing

1141
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 2: and regular basis. If I was sure and plunking now

1142
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 2: that I'm handing out advice all over the place this morning,

1143
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: I'd be more worried about my financial circumstances than I

1144
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: would about some regulatory authority that's really not to bother

1145
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: A seven forty.

1146
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 1: Five The Mike Asking Breakfast, a full show podcast on iHeartRadio,

1147
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 1: Power by the News talks at be where it is.

1148
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 2: Twelve minutes away from eight The Life and Times of

1149
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 2: Jim Bolger to see the world.

1150
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 24: The time has come to have a New Zealander as

1151
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 24: head of State of New Zealand. So there is can

1152
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 24: I say emphatically no political.

1153
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: Crisis in New Zealand.

1154
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 24: It is new what we have, but we have the

1155
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 24: largest party with the largest number of seats and we

1156
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 24: will use that to make progress on the issues that

1157
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 24: are important.

1158
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 2: To New Zealand over the next three years.

1159
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 24: The balance in terms of experience and new members coming through,

1160
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 24: I think is reflected in the lineup, and I'm looking

1161
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 24: for a crew performance in Parliament and outsider. The Commonwealth

1162
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,160
Speaker 24: offers a forum for its members to meet in an

1163
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 24: informal atmosphere where we can speak freely, if necessary, firmly

1164
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 24: among friends. If we hadn't have been prepared to do something,

1165
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 24: if we were just totally passive.

1166
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 11: Then I think the Comwealth would assume lost elevance.

1167
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 24: Yes, the choice of peace or work has been with

1168
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 24: him ever since Iraq's unprovoked act of aggression against Qwait.

1169
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 24: Iraq has had almost six months and bye with the

1170
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,439
Speaker 24: United Nations Security Council demand.

1171
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 25: Courts withdrawal from Quait. What does attack demonstrated that an effect?

1172
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 25: There are missiles in their thousands and did every day

1173
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 25: called aeroplanes lead with pure and if you can commandeer

1174
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 25: one of those, then you have a missile at your

1175
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 25: hands and the people below you at your mercy.

1176
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 24: Discoverment will aim to last a full three year two

1177
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 24: no reason why shouldn't we want to give stability. We

1178
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 24: set out to target low to middle income families with

1179
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 24: a job with children. That was the group of New

1180
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 24: Zealanders who deserved the greatest break at this stage, as

1181
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 24: it were the first harvest from the recovery.

1182
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 11: It's the first time.

1183
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 24: For a long time the Prime Minister of New Zealand

1184
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 24: has been able to talk to the President of the

1185
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 24: United States.

1186
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 25: In terms of determining who should meet is what I'd

1187
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 25: be doing is looking at who can.

1188
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 3: Best articulate the issues we have to deal with, and

1189
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 3: some of them are very big.

1190
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 24: The day's got its own element of sadness for myself

1191
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 24: and for those who work closely with me.

1192
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 11: But I leave with no regrets.

1193
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 2: James Brendan Bolger, Prime Minister from November of nineteen ninety

1194
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 2: two December of nineteen ninety seven, nine to eight the.

1195
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 4: Mike Costing Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Talks.

1196
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,240
Speaker 2: There'd be I sticks away from a cadrona hotel finally

1197
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 2: been sold, stays in local hands. One of the new owners,

1198
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 2: Warren Barclays with us Morning Mike.

1199
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 26: Morning, Mike.

1200
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,880
Speaker 2: Is it the idea that came out of the sale

1201
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 2: or had you guys always had your eye and it

1202
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 2: should something you know, come to the market.

1203
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 26: No, it really came from the market. It was an

1204
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 26: im went out from cad Thornton, the current owner, and

1205
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 26: it's just caught for guy's imagination really, so there was

1206
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 26: no thought previously no, you know, line up to to

1207
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 26: get the hotel. It was just an opportunity that yeah,

1208
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 26: came came from from Caid Thornton's putting the sale sell

1209
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 26: sign up.

1210
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: What sort of consortium is it? How many how many locals?

1211
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 2: Who's a good bugger? Who's a pain? I mean, how

1212
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: did you put it all together?

1213
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 3: Now there's two guys.

1214
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 26: Theygas want to remain low key Mike so, but there

1215
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 26: are a couple of high net worth individuals are Kiwi's

1216
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 26: and so they approached me to become the publican and

1217
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 26: to front everything, and that's what I'm doing. So but yeah,

1218
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 26: they are good buggers.

1219
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 2: How much is it business? How much of it is altruism,

1220
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: local ownership, ken in the community, all that stuff.

1221
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 26: I think it's probably both might. To be honest, it's altruistic.

1222
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 26: They wanted to definitely keep it in Kei Wei hands.

1223
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 26: That that was probably the motivation. And then beyond that

1224
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 26: was that it's a it's a pretty good investment. It's

1225
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 26: got a great trade in history, and so those two

1226
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 26: things combined were really the motivation.

1227
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 2: What's the potential you reckon? Do you see upside?

1228
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 15: Yeah?

1229
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 22: I do.

1230
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 26: It's but with that upside comes just a modicum of caution,

1231
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 26: just we don't want to change a lot. We don't

1232
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 26: want anything like that. It's a it's got a good

1233
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 26: trade in history, as I said, and it's as a

1234
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 26: going concerned it's you know exactly what what what you want.

1235
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 26: The business is solid and that's what we want to do.

1236
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 26: We don't want to do anything that changes that. There's

1237
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 26: just kiwis and international visitors all the time, every day,

1238
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 26: and that's what we want to keep.

1239
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 2: You're not going to tell me the price, obviously, but

1240
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: we all had a guess when it came to the market,

1241
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 2: and I'm assuming you guys sort of did as well.

1242
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 2: Was your guess right?

1243
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 20: Ish?

1244
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 26: Yeah, I think so. It's just they considered it, put

1245
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 26: in an offer and worked through Wiskaide and came to

1246
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 26: a settlement which was fear I think to both parties.

1247
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 2: Well done, Warren, and you're in the garden of the

1248
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 2: hotel and we can hear that, so you enjoy it.

1249
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 2: Warren Barclet at the Gadrona Hotel.

1250
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: News is next, asking the questions others won't the mic

1251
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: asking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, finding the buyers others

1252
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: can't use togs Head b.

1253
01:00:00,040 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 8: You know, seven past eight. We're talking about a comeback.

1254
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 2: Good Charlotte and gathered away years ago, but a wedding

1255
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 2: in the family changed it all and now they're back together.

1256
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 2: We got a new album, Motel, the Cap and the

1257
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 2: Here next year. I'll give you those details at the moment.

1258
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, Benji and Joel Madden are with us.

1259
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 2: Good morning, Good.

1260
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 8: Morning air Joel.

1261
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 2: Let me see what I got this right. Basically, so

1262
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 2: you're at a family wedding, you're singing, You've been asked

1263
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 2: to do the after show thing. Everyone goes, oh my god,

1264
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 2: they're fantastic. You stand there or somebody stands in and go, actually,

1265
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: we're not bad. How about an album? Could we make

1266
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 2: an album? Next thing? You make an album, next thing,

1267
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 2: you're on a tour. Is that basically how it's gone.

1268
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 2: If I got that right, Yeah, it's some version of that.

1269
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 22: You almost got it.

1270
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 8: We did.

1271
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 23: Kind of have a great time as a band there,

1272
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 23: which was which is probably one of the key elements

1273
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 23: of it is, you know, being in a band that

1274
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 23: these guys since high school and then having this kind

1275
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 23: of thirty year later, twenty some year later at this

1276
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 23: wedding for my little sister. It's special and we had

1277
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 23: a great time and we were all kind of well,

1278
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 23: you know, you're drinking and you're like everything's great, and

1279
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 23: you say something like, let's make an album. And then

1280
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,439
Speaker 23: on Monday or Tuesday morning after that weekend, BENJ calls

1281
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 23: us all and goes, hey, you guys, let's make this

1282
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 23: record we talked about and we're all like okay, And

1283
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 23: so it stuck, which was nice, and here we are.

1284
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 11: You know, so it did it?

1285
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 3: Did?

1286
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 22: It did pan out?

1287
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 2: Just think Benji, I mean that was always going to

1288
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:42,959
Speaker 2: I mean it must be when you were in music,

1289
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 2: rot it look you play can you look we're just

1290
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 2: doing a wedding. We're just doing a little thing. Can

1291
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 2: you you know, can you sing us a song? Can

1292
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 2: you perform off for the show? I mean you must

1293
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:53,000
Speaker 2: have had a bit of that over the years.

1294
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean, well, the great thing was with this

1295
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 23: wedding was that I mean, we've known our and she's

1296
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 23: been on tour with us. We've noticed since she's like

1297
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 23: six years old. So it was really special and you know,

1298
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 23: and actually it was there was a vibe there. It

1299
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 23: was so much love and I think when you're going

1300
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 23: through a whole career, sometimes you get a little bit

1301
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 23: jaded and a little bit burnt out, and when you

1302
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 23: have these like beautiful moments and you just you know,

1303
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 23: those life moments where you where you feel grateful and

1304
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 23: you feel it's sweet, you know. So I think that vibe.

1305
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 23: I even think when you listen to this album, it's

1306
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 23: kind of sweet, Like there's a nice vibe, you know.

1307
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 23: It's it's it's kind of it's it's genuine, you.

1308
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 2: Know, Joel, was there any dot you could do it

1309
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 2: once you thought, yeah, let's give it a crack, any

1310
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 2: doubt you could do it?

1311
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 22: A little bit of doubt?

1312
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 23: I don't know if it was that we could do it,

1313
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 23: because I did think, like I think when we went

1314
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 23: in and made the record, it was pretty it was

1315
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,920
Speaker 23: it was pretty secluded, like in the sense of like

1316
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 23: there was no one there that didn't want to be

1317
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 23: there making this thing, and we had no expectations, so

1318
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 23: we didn't need to even release it. We were like,

1319
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 23: let's just make the record and then we'll see what

1320
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 23: we got and then we'll figure out what we should

1321
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 23: do with it, if we should even put it out

1322
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 23: or if we should, like we'll figure that part out

1323
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 23: after we're done. Then we did the record, then we

1324
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 23: finish it, and then we put it out. I think

1325
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 23: my hesitation was, where does Good Charlotte fit in twenty

1326
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 23: twenty five, twenty five years from our first record. We're

1327
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 23: in our forties. We're not trying to be anything we're not.

1328
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 23: We're not trying to be anyone else than we who

1329
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 23: we are right now. I'm not trying to be any

1330
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 23: other age. We're not trying to be any other anything.

1331
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 23: And I think going on and putting a record out

1332
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 23: where you don't know how well you're going to market

1333
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 23: this thing because you don't even know what the hell

1334
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 23: you think about putting a record out is probably that.

1335
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 23: My hesitation was more like, where the hell do we fit?

1336
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 23: And we'll find out and we'll see. And so everything's

1337
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,439
Speaker 23: kind of been like one step forward at a time

1338
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 23: and just do what we feel and like, let's see

1339
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 23: we don't we don't have some master planned Yeah, I

1340
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 23: don't know where If you even see the way we're

1341
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 23: planning our touring these days, it's like we're going to

1342
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 23: do the world as much as we can. So let's

1343
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 23: put one tour together at a time that we want

1344
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 23: to do and so the first thought, you know, first

1345
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 23: things first, Okay, let's do Australia and New Zealand. Okay,

1346
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 23: got that now, next step we'll figure it out. So

1347
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 23: it's it's been very much that it's been kind of

1348
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 23: going forward and feeling our way through it and doing

1349
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 23: more of just like what we feel and figure out

1350
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 23: the commercial aspect of it later. I guess, so yeah,

1351
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 23: one thing at a.

1352
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:54,959
Speaker 2: Time, I guess, all right, listen, hold on, guys, beckon

1353
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 2: the moment, Joel Maiden, Bingji Maiden, the the details of

1354
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: coming here in the early part of the new year.

1355
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 2: More from Good Charlotte Shortly eleven past eight.

1356
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: The Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeart Radio

1357
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: powered by News Talk.

1358
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: Zippy Use Talks. It be fourteen past eight, Good Charlotte

1359
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,919
Speaker 2: Back Together, going Joel Madden, Benji Madden with us. Listen,

1360
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 2: Benji went, I mean, talk about the genesis of all this.

1361
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 2: What's driving for you in the sense of people don't know.

1362
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 2: Obviously you're very successful, but then you moved away from music.

1363
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 2: You're in management these days, you've got your veeps operation,

1364
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 2: you're entrepreneurs, so you're doing your own things. So obviously

1365
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 2: you don't need to do this, So I guess the

1366
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 2: question is do you want it?

1367
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 23: Yeah, I think it's really been that's a great question.

1368
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 23: That's a great question. And you know, it's interesting because

1369
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 23: the management company which has taken on a life of

1370
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 23: its own and we're like and then Veeps, which has

1371
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 23: taken on a life of its own, we've been like extremely.

1372
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 22: I don't know, like we've just been blessed.

1373
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 24: You know.

1374
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 23: It's interesting because those were just to see if we

1375
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 23: could do it. We're just to they were just to

1376
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 23: see if we could make a difference. With the management company.

1377
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 23: We literally were like, if we can find one or

1378
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 23: two artists and help them have a good experience and

1379
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 23: build and buy houses and like build careers. When like that,

1380
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 23: let's just see if we can help someone, right, and

1381
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 23: and so now it's like that, wouldn't you know that

1382
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 23: philosophy is like, uh, it's crazy that that's like a

1383
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 23: new thing of like maybe we can just help protect

1384
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 23: somebody and you know, get them fair deals. Wild, that's

1385
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:38,360
Speaker 23: wild that that's like a crazy thing. Anyways, BEEPS was

1386
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 23: literally just was was uh, it was just a challenge,

1387
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 23: you know. So those things brought us back to the

1388
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 23: band with a lot of joy though, because we've done

1389
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 23: a lot of healing through that stuff. Like when you

1390
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 23: work with the band and you give them some advice

1391
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 23: where they avoid something you didn't, it makes the whole

1392
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 23: thing worth it, Like you don't you're not that there

1393
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 23: is a release of like whatever poison is in there

1394
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 23: where you feel bad about it, it's gone. Like when

1395
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 23: you tell some when you when you get to work

1396
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,480
Speaker 23: with these kids and you say, hey, man, why don't

1397
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 23: we do it this way? Like or when you get

1398
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 23: to sell tell people to back off and we say, hey,

1399
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 23: you don't got to think about anything. Go in the

1400
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 23: studio and have fun and just just just do something

1401
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 23: that you think is cool. Don't worry about the business.

1402
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 23: We'll handle the business. And they go and they make

1403
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 23: a record they love and you know, and there's different

1404
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 23: different experiences like that that when you have them that

1405
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 23: little part of you where it was a little scarred,

1406
01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 23: where you had an experience where you didn't have an

1407
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 23: adult around you that wasn't making money off you, you know,

1408
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 23: because that's the beautiful thing about us as managers. We

1409
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 23: don't need the money, so we don't need to we

1410
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 23: don't need to We don't need to tell people to

1411
01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 23: do things so that we can get the commission right,

1412
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 23: Like we get to tell people, say you should let's

1413
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 23: say no to that.

1414
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 22: Hey, why don't we say no to that?

1415
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 21: You know?

1416
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 23: And and so it's really we've we've done a lot

1417
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 23: of healing in the last ten years. So getting to

1418
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 23: come back to make this album, I don't know for

1419
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 23: me anyways, obviously I'm going to feel this way. But

1420
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 23: when I listen to this album, I hear a lot

1421
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,800
Speaker 23: of joy, I hear a lot of real I hear

1422
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 23: I definitely like for me. The thing I love the

1423
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 23: most about it we could never have done this album

1424
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 23: until right now, is that we're comfortable in our own skin.

1425
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 22: We made this album for us.

1426
01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 2: Literally.

1427
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 23: That was what we said when we made the album,

1428
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,840
Speaker 23: was like, hey man, we can always delete it. It

1429
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 23: doesn't matter, you know, So let's just have fun, Let's

1430
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 23: just see what comes out. Let's just enjoy the process

1431
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 23: of making it. And you know what, that's the record

1432
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 23: I wanted to make. I wanted to make the forty

1433
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 23: six year old me record and talk about the shit

1434
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 23: that I want to talk about now and be in

1435
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 23: the place where I'm at now and be as happy

1436
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 23: as I am, or ask the questions that I that

1437
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:04,560
Speaker 23: I still have. And so to me, regardless of whatever

1438
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 23: journey this record takes on its life and whoever we

1439
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 23: get to share it with, and for people that understand it,

1440
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 23: the people that get it, that's you know, beautiful. But

1441
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 23: for me, it was mission accomplished to just make a

1442
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 23: record with Joel right now, as you know, forty six

1443
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 23: year old dudes who are married with kids and.

1444
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 22: Just wanting to just be where we're at now.

1445
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 23: Not wanting to be kids again, not wanting to be

1446
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 23: anywhere other than right we're at.

1447
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 22: And so to me, that's what the whole thing was about.

1448
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 2: What about you, Joel, do you want do you feel

1449
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 2: the same way into what's been the magic of you guys?

1450
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 2: In that sense? I mean, any number of bands creatively

1451
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 2: over the years have fallen apart due to clashes. It's

1452
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 2: almost inevitable, and you guys seem to have made it

1453
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 2: through and happily.

1454
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,639
Speaker 23: So yeah, I think we're very lucky in that way

1455
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 23: that we figured out as you know, as brothers. I think, well,

1456
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 23: we started off together and we had to survive together

1457
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 23: in a lot of ways, and you know, part of

1458
01:10:58,520 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 23: the process of healing was going back and and and

1459
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 23: healing some of the childhood.

1460
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 22: Trauma and stuff like that that no one wants to

1461
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 22: talk about, and now that do we. But we had

1462
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 22: to go back and kind of work and fix it

1463
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:10,560
Speaker 22: and face it.

1464
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 23: And we did that together. And I think we were

1465
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,639
Speaker 23: lucky enough to have each other, uh, in this life

1466
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 23: and then in this band. You know, in our twenties,

1467
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 23: we we could barely communicate. We fought a lot, but

1468
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 23: we made music together and I think and I think

1469
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 23: that was our way of.

1470
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 22: Communicating and bonding.

1471
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 23: And then in our thirties we started to learn how

1472
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 23: to talk and we started building real lives where I

1473
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,680
Speaker 23: think we were learning how to be adults and and

1474
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 23: and and and get past the music, because I think

1475
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 23: one you chase the music and all the things that

1476
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 23: come with it to try and be good enough, and

1477
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:47,560
Speaker 23: then you realize that that's not actually what makes you

1478
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 23: a decent person. And that was the journey we went

1479
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 23: on to get all the way back full circle to

1480
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 23: this simple idea of like, oh yeah, let's make a

1481
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 23: record and let's have and you know, what, what's the

1482
01:11:58,560 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 23: record sound like?

1483
01:11:59,720 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 3: Now?

1484
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 11: Forty six.

1485
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 22: I don't know, let's find out. The next step is

1486
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 22: releasing it. Okay, was it good enough?

1487
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 13: Yeah?

1488
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 25: I like it.

1489
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:08,400
Speaker 22: Let's put it out, Okay, next to release it, okay,

1490
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 22: let's do some shows. It's pretty simple.

1491
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 23: And I don't know if that's a good answer for you,

1492
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 23: but like, that's kind of how I feel these days,

1493
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 23: is it's not that complicated, it's not that deep, but

1494
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 23: some of the songs could be. I mean, we went

1495
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 23: in the record and we were honest and we put

1496
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 23: some heart into There's a couple of songs on there

1497
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 23: that are about us heartfelt as we've ever been, about

1498
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 23: as honest as we've ever been. But the process was

1499
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 23: simple and everything after that now these days is like, Okay,

1500
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 23: let's deliver the biggest and best show we can. It's

1501
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 23: not that complicated. We're gonna do anything we can to

1502
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 23: make it, and we're actually doing it.

1503
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 11: I mean, we won't.

1504
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 23: We're not playing that many shows these days, but we've

1505
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,799
Speaker 23: played like fifteen shows this year probably been the biggest

1506
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 23: and best.

1507
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 22: Fifteen shows we've ever done. And some of these shows

1508
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 22: for sure, and.

1509
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 23: I think, yeah, it's just been a process of being

1510
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 23: present right here where we're.

1511
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:05,719
Speaker 11: At in this moment.

1512
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 6: But we're not in confident ourselves.

1513
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 22: We're not in conflict with us.

1514
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 24: We're not in.

1515
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 23: Conflict, but we're But also the bar has been really

1516
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 23: raised by all these bands around us. We have these

1517
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,639
Speaker 23: incredible bands around us, whether it's Chase Atlantic or bad

1518
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 23: Omens or Architects or Idris Who. There's tons of bands

1519
01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,719
Speaker 23: around us that have raised the bar of what we've seen,

1520
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 23: what's what you should do when you play live, or

1521
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,599
Speaker 23: what you could do. So I think that we've been

1522
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 23: enriched by while we set out to do something that

1523
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 23: was a simple idea for us, let's be the guys

1524
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:39,720
Speaker 23: we wish we'd met.

1525
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 22: That was the simple idea.

1526
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 23: Then we end up meeting all these incredible artists and

1527
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 23: they made it a really rich experience to think about, Okay,

1528
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 23: what do you want to do for a live show

1529
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 23: or how.

1530
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:51,599
Speaker 11: Do you want to make this record?

1531
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 22: So I think we're living in our own kind of

1532
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 22: world now of shit that we just have been lucky to.

1533
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go and want a great answer, It

1534
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 2: was a good answer. Listen you guys. We look forward

1535
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 2: to seeing you in the country next year. It'll be

1536
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 2: the middle of summer, so it's all good, wonderful to

1537
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 2: catch up and talk to you. Good luck with the album,

1538
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 2: good luck with the tour. Maybe we talk when you hear.

1539
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 22: Mike, we appreciate it.

1540
01:14:15,160 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 2: There we go, Joel Madden, Benji Madden give you the

1541
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 2: details on the contint. Just come a couple of months

1542
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 2: because the tickets go on sale tomorrow eight twenty two.

1543
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Veda Retirement Communities News togs Head.

1544
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: B Amga three's from fish oil, of course fantastic for

1545
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,360
Speaker 2: your health, but not all fish oil supplements are created equal,

1546
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 2: and then that is your conundrum. So if your brain function,

1547
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 2: your energy levels aren't quite up to speed or where

1548
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 2: you want them to be. About health has made it

1549
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 2: super easy. So we've got two powerful products. We've got

1550
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 2: the resv Ultimate, we got the Lister's Oil Advance right

1551
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 2: their best Amega three supplement basically, so the Lesters Oil

1552
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 2: Advanced that's crafted using the high quality concentrated fish oil

1553
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 2: plus the maximum by the way amount of vitamin D

1554
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:57,960
Speaker 2: that's allowed in the country, very important to vitamin D.

1555
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 2: It's also packed the super antioxidants like you COQ ten,

1556
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 2: you're luten and more supporting brain, health, I health, joint comfort,

1557
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 2: overall aging and well being. Then you come to your

1558
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 2: reserme Ultimate. That's your premium respiratrol critical reseratrol that brings

1559
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 2: on the energy, the heart, health and the vitality. So

1560
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 2: it's all packaged up together. Read the label. Take only

1561
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 2: as directed, but you call them on eight hundred Triple

1562
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 2: nine three oh nine ask for the lesters Oil Advanced

1563
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 2: and the res V Ultimate Value Pack. The key is

1564
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 2: the Value pack, so you use the code breakfast and

1565
01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 2: you will get a free gift valued at over one

1566
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 2: hundred dollars. So it's all good. From about Health on

1567
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,880
Speaker 2: eight hundred triple nine, three oh nine ASK and forty

1568
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,640
Speaker 2: one and all these bands for my youth coming back

1569
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 2: and touring is great. Took my daughter to Blink one

1570
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,799
Speaker 2: eight two and I'll take it to a good Charlotte

1571
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 2: next year. You'll be able to do that because they're

1572
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 2: part of the new Live at the Domain Concert series

1573
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 2: one off show Feb. Twenty seven, so right in the

1574
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 2: peak of summer, be Beautiful they're headlining. Are Yellow Cards

1575
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 2: going to be there as well. Pre sales tickets tomorrow

1576
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 2: from nine. General public sales start on Monday from eleven

1577
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 2: o'clock the Chinese case that never was well it was

1578
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 2: until it wasn't, and then the questions started getting asked

1579
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:13,839
Speaker 2: and that has become a major political problem for Sakia Stama.

1580
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 2: Their latest twist in the ongoing saga with Rod after

1581
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 2: the News, which is.

1582
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 1: Opinionated, informed, unapologetic, the mic asking breakfast with a Veda, retirement, communities,

1583
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 1: life your Way news togs had been you.

1584
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,760
Speaker 2: Know whether it will lead to anywhere profound. But the

1585
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 2: Regulation Ministry, David Seymow's invention, of course, is now going

1586
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 2: to have a look at restaurants and cafes and bars

1587
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 2: and food stores and food trucks and caterers and hotels

1588
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 2: and all that sort of stuff, and they're going to

1589
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 2: review the hospitality sector. One of the ones or examples

1590
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 2: I came up with yesterday, food truck owners apparently faced

1591
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 2: disproportionate costs from local council's depending on where you are.

1592
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 2: So that's that sort of postcode thing. Best rule, I thought,

1593
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 2: and it's a good one. Rules that kept hotel guests

1594
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 2: from taking a glass of wine back to their room,

1595
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 2: So there's a rule around that, and so have they

1596
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 2: can tidy that sort of stuff up. More than fifteen

1597
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 2: hundred complaints about hospital had come through the ministry's tip

1598
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 2: line of inconsistency and over zealous enforcement. So they can

1599
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,240
Speaker 2: tidy that up and make business easier to do, then

1600
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 2: I guess I'm all for it. Twenty three to.

1601
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 13: Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

1602
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:28,559
Speaker 13: mind for New Zealand business.

1603
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 2: Right to the UK we go Rod Little's well, it's Roderick,

1604
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 2: good morning, right. This Chinese spy case, just to background

1605
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 2: it for people, So a couple of young guys, British guys,

1606
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 2: they were accused of spying four China. Case was set

1607
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 2: to go. Then it fell over. People went, well, what

1608
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 2: the hell's happened there? And suddenly we've got a alleged

1609
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 2: conspiracy theory. So key has been his hand has been

1610
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:55,000
Speaker 2: forced and so he's now releasing the details.

1611
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 11: Is that it.

1612
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 3: No, I don't think it's said he went near it,

1613
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 3: either for Sirkeir Starmer or for this whole scandal. Don't

1614
01:18:04,520 --> 01:18:08,679
Speaker 3: forget that one of the two guys arrested was someone

1615
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 3: who worked for an MP, so that got the House speak.

1616
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 3: The Speaker of the House, Lindsay Hoyle involved. He was

1617
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 3: the enraged that this that this prosecution had broken down.

1618
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 3: We had a standoff at Prime Minister's Questions between Sirkir

1619
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 3: Stalin and Kenny Baderdock. It still seems to me that

1620
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 3: Sirkir Starmer is not telling the full truth. They're saying

1621
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:37,559
Speaker 3: that that there was no government involvement and that there

1622
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 3: was nothing they could have done to persuade the Crown

1623
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:43,719
Speaker 3: Prosecution Service that they considered China to be a threat.

1624
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 3: But since that's happened, there's more trouble. This time it's

1625
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 3: for the Tories. Dominic Cunnings, who was formerly an aid

1626
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 3: to Boris Johnson and a fairly troublesome individual for the

1627
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,640
Speaker 3: Tories and not shy of speaking out, has spoken out

1628
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 3: and said during his time there, this is going back,

1629
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 3: you know, five six years. During his time there, the

1630
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 3: Chinese hacked into the very center of British security, parliamentary security,

1631
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,560
Speaker 3: and knew everything that was going on, and it was

1632
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 3: all hushed up by Boris Johnson. And that's put the

1633
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 3: cat among the pigeons as well. But the crucial thing,

1634
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:26,599
Speaker 3: the really bizarre thing, is that nobody seems able to say,

1635
01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 3: even Kenny Badenoch chose her word, sorry, Key was able

1636
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 3: to say that China's a bit of a threat. And

1637
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 3: I think you and I would concede the China's bit

1638
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 3: of a threat, you know. And I think this goes

1639
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 3: down very very badly. Indeed with the public.

1640
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 2: The point for people who haven't followed it is as

1641
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 2: they were spying for the Chinese and what the case

1642
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 2: hinged on was the government's interpretation of what China was.

1643
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 2: Are they a threat or not? And so Starmart PM

1644
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 2: hughs is arguing, well, look, the reviews started in twenty fifteen.

1645
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 2: It's all your fault New Tories if you hadn't got

1646
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 2: yourreck together. So is there aspect of it.

1647
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 4: True now, not entirely.

1648
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:14,600
Speaker 3: I mean, it is absolutely true that the offenses supposedly

1649
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 3: took place when the Tories were in office. For a

1650
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:20,520
Speaker 3: staff Sastarma does have that on his side, but nonetheless

1651
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 3: he was the Prime Minister at the time the case

1652
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:28,599
Speaker 3: came to court and his people, his Civil Service were

1653
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 3: unable to give the Crown Prosecution Service the ammunition they

1654
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 3: needed which would have put which would have said that

1655
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 3: China is a bit of a threat. Now, as far

1656
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 3: as I'm concerned, you know, I've darged in about how

1657
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 3: it works in other countries. But anyone who is surreptitiously

1658
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,640
Speaker 3: working for a foreign power, whether it be China or

1659
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 3: Kiriri Batty, frankly, that is a threat. They are doing

1660
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 3: that for underhand purposes, you know. And well it's China.

1661
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 3: You would have thought that there was no quite of that.

1662
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 3: And so that is where we are at the moment.

1663
01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 3: And Dominic Cummings is once again striving like a colossus

1664
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 3: across the across the political firmament, and I dare say

1665
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:15,679
Speaker 3: that a fair amount of his motivation is to stick

1666
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 3: the boot into is the former boss, Boris Johnson, who

1667
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 3: he broke up with acrimoniously exactly.

1668
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 2: Rachel Reeves. I'm fascinated with how she comes up and

1669
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,759
Speaker 2: explains it or does whatever next month, because it seems

1670
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,000
Speaker 2: that she's out today talking about the possibility of text

1671
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 2: rises against the backdrop of the Labor Party saying we

1672
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 2: will not raise Texas. So she's going to break that promise.

1673
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 2: How is she going to do it? And how much

1674
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 2: political capital do you reckon she burns in doing it.

1675
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,639
Speaker 3: The circumstances have changed, is what she will say. Things

1676
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 3: have got much worse and it's all the fault.

1677
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 14: Of the Tories.

1678
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 3: That's rightly what she will say when she will say

1679
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 3: that the markets haven't been terribly propitious.

1680
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 14: And so on and so on.

1681
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:00,640
Speaker 3: The truth is that we've got, you know, one of

1682
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 3: the lowest rates of growth in the G seven, with

1683
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 3: lapping behind Europe. There's not much investment coming into the country.

1684
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 3: And she failed, of course, or so Keir Starmer failed

1685
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 3: to get welfare benefit cuts through Parliament. So she's had

1686
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 3: very very little recourse other than to hint that there

1687
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 3: will be tax rises, and most people think there will be,

1688
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,839
Speaker 3: and which is why we have a totally stagnant housing

1689
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 3: market in this country because people are scared stiff about

1690
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 3: what Rachel Reefs is going to do in the budget.

1691
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 2: Interesting, Hi, listen before you go. There was I'm sure

1692
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 2: you saw it. The tamb lawyers are one of the tablets,

1693
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:44,919
Speaker 2: had what they termed a megapole. It was multi level regression, poltice,

1694
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 2: post gratification, Paul blah blah blah. Anyway, the point being

1695
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 2: that reform would end up they claimed with four hundred

1696
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 2: and forty five seats, largest majority in the history of

1697
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 2: ver Labour's down to seventy three, lib DM's forty two,

1698
01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 2: we SMP forty one, Corbyn's Party thirteen, the Tories. I'm

1699
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 2: in sixth place with just seven MPs. How if the

1700
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 2: election was held right now, do you reckon that's true?

1701
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 3: I think probably not. I think it's probably overstated. That

1702
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 3: being said, Mike, when previous opinion polls have come out,

1703
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 3: I've always argued in the past that reforms vote has

1704
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 3: been a little hidden because people don't like to say

1705
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 3: they vote reform. So in a way, I can't have

1706
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 3: it both ways. My guess is that that must be

1707
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:35,040
Speaker 3: surely overstating the case. But the fact that if there

1708
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 3: were an election tomorrow the reform would win, I think

1709
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 3: that's yes, absolutely certain.

1710
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff, Mike, You have a good week and

1711
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,479
Speaker 2: we'll see you next Yuesday. Appreciate it very much. So,

1712
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 2: just to reiterate those the size of it, six hundred

1713
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 2: and fifty seat parliament reform they claim in this poll,

1714
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:53,519
Speaker 2: and the methodology is what made it such a big

1715
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:57,360
Speaker 2: deal because they extrapolated out from individual seats being a

1716
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 2: first part of the parts of the post system reform.

1717
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 2: Out of the six hundred and fifty six in parliament

1718
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 2: reform would get four hundred and forty five incredible sixteen

1719
01:24:05,000 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 2: to nine.

1720
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

1721
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 1: by News Talks a.

1722
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,240
Speaker 2: B other thing in Britain. By the way, they've just

1723
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 2: announced that you'll need to speak English to an A

1724
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 2: level standard. These are tougher new rules if you want

1725
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 2: to be a migrant from next year January next year,

1726
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,719
Speaker 2: graduates and those areplaying for these skilled worker or scale

1727
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,519
Speaker 2: what they call scale up visas. If you come to

1728
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 2: this country, you must learn our language and play your part,

1729
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 2: which doesn't seem unreasonable. Going to be tested. This is

1730
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 2: the part that could be really interesting. You're going to

1731
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 2: be tested in person, speaking, listening, reading and writing at

1732
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 2: home office approved providers. How long you reckon before a

1733
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 2: number of Home Office approved providers turn out to be

1734
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 2: dodgy as?

1735
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 11: Or you know what?

1736
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:52,000
Speaker 2: Skilled Worker Scale Up High Potential Individual visas required to

1737
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 2: reach B two level. That's a step up from B one.

1738
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 2: It's equivalent to GCSE, which is sort of the old

1739
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 2: school SERD. If you want to run it that way.

1740
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,040
Speaker 2: Skilled work of visa migrants have to work for a

1741
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,679
Speaker 2: government approved employer earn at least forty one thousand pounds

1742
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 2: a year or the quote unquote going rate for their

1743
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 2: type of work. And according to the British Council B

1744
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 2: two to understand the main ideas of complex texts of

1745
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 2: concrete and abstract topics. Well, I don't even know what

1746
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:22,559
Speaker 2: that means, so well.

1747
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 17: That counts you out. Then you tried to turn up

1748
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 17: in England on.

1749
01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 2: The boat, I just might, I might struggle in that

1750
01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,759
Speaker 2: particular part of the world. From our economy, house building

1751
01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:34,400
Speaker 2: costs are seemingly now under control, which is encouraging. This

1752
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 2: is the Curtality Construction cost index out this morning, zero

1753
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 2: point four percent for the three months so three months

1754
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:44,799
Speaker 2: to September annualized, it's at two so that's well below inflation.

1755
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 2: That's the key there. Materials now better supply, wage growth

1756
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 2: has steadied, more predictability in project pricing. So you remember

1757
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,559
Speaker 2: during the pandemic. Post of pandemic, it was ten eleven percent.

1758
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 2: The whole thing was ridiculous and no one wanted to build,

1759
01:25:56,360 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 2: who could afford to build? For goodness sake, it's still

1760
01:25:58,439 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 2: expensive to build because two percent to still two percent

1761
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 2: more than it was a year ago. And that's on

1762
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 2: top of costs you would argue a year ago you

1763
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,719
Speaker 2: probably couldn't afford related matters. Though in HOSPO I mentioned

1764
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:13,759
Speaker 2: the hospital industry look at investigation from Seymour's department will yesterday,

1765
01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 2: we don't have one through fifty, but we do as

1766
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 2: of yesterday. One through fifty doesn't come out for a

1767
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, but fifty one through one the best

1768
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:25,680
Speaker 2: most influential list of best hotels in the world. Now

1769
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 2: everyone's got an influential list, so I don't know how

1770
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 2: influential this actually is. But in the fifty one through

1771
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 2: one hundred list, Hooker Lodge has come in at eighty eight,

1772
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 2: which is the first time a New Zealand's hotel has

1773
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 2: come in the top one hundred. It's possible there's one

1774
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 2: in the one to fifty. We don't know, but it's

1775
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 2: the first time we've been in the top one hundred,

1776
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:51,240
Speaker 2: so that's encouraging. It's eight hundred experts, hotels, travel journalist, educators,

1777
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,280
Speaker 2: luxury travelers, all that sort of stuff. But hook Lodge,

1778
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 2: which has recently been refurbished and expanded, not been there

1779
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 2: since it's been done. But they say it's beautiful. It

1780
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,240
Speaker 2: was beautiful to start with. We got married for goodness sake,

1781
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 2: and we still at a photo at home. The gift

1782
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 2: to us as we left, by the way, was a

1783
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:06,879
Speaker 2: photo of the place we got married, which was just delightful.

1784
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 2: Were you then win?

1785
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 11: Yeah?

1786
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 17: I feel like we broke it because it sort of

1787
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:13,639
Speaker 17: went it was sort of went down hell.

1788
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 2: But after we were there they had to fix it up,

1789
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:18,320
Speaker 2: fixed it up after we were there for the day. Well,

1790
01:27:18,360 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 2: there you go there there.

1791
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 17: I remember there being a lot of photographers in the

1792
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 17: bushes across the.

1793
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 2: River closed airspace when I was standing there. We were

1794
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 2: standing there and the person said to me, we're going

1795
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,599
Speaker 2: to have to close the airspace. I thought, this has

1796
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:33,480
Speaker 2: got ridiculous.

1797
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:35,360
Speaker 17: I remember trying to keep Jason out of the pool

1798
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:36,439
Speaker 17: as well. That was a struggle.

1799
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that had nothing to do with the wedding.

1800
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 2: Nine minutes away from nine the.

1801
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 4: Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Defender and News Togs.

1802
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 2: Dead be three years ago. Resonate open. It's very first

1803
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:50,759
Speaker 2: Hearing Health studio. This is in Silverdale in Auckland. Today

1804
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 2: they've got twenty nine studios. You can you believe at

1805
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,000
Speaker 2: twenty nine studios all over this beautiful countries. Two more

1806
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 2: on the way, so that'll be thirty one and that

1807
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 2: is growth right through these tough economic times. You just

1808
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 2: how much keywis love and trust what they're doing right,

1809
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 2: So this is all the good news. Resonate proudly one

1810
01:28:04,439 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 2: hundred percent key we owned. They've proven that hearing care

1811
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 2: can be affordable and fair and transparent. Are they're unlimited

1812
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 2: hearing aid subscription if you're not up on this yet,

1813
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,240
Speaker 2: ninety dollars a month, just ninety bucks a month and

1814
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 2: that includes top of the range hearing aids, ongoing care,

1815
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 2: free upgrade to the latest tech every three years, and

1816
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 2: the price locked in for life. I mean, it's no

1817
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 2: wonder thousands have made that switch. So join them today.

1818
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,160
Speaker 2: Eight hundred resonators where you're heading eight hundred seven three

1819
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 2: seven sixty six'. Two you book it online at resonatehealth

1820
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 2: dot co dot. Nz you've got that resonatehealth dot co dot.

1821
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,640
Speaker 2: Nz asking if anything about the wedding er and mean

1822
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 2: just down. Memory one of one of the UPSIDES i

1823
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 2: guess of the so called demise of The New zealand

1824
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 2: media was back twelve thirteen years, ago me getting married

1825
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 2: to somebody Called Kate hawksby turned out to be a

1826
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 2: reason for and When glenn talks about people in the

1827
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 2: bush's not. Joking there are people in the, bush and

1828
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:54,880
Speaker 2: people followed us, around and it was just the whole

1829
01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 2: thing was, pathetic and clearly there were too many people

1830
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 2: with too much time on their hands and too many.

1831
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 2: Cameras and so one of the upsides of the media

1832
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 2: sort of falling apart was that no longer, happens no bad.

1833
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 2: Thing five minutes away from nine.

1834
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 1: Trending now With Chemist warehouse celebrate big brands and biggest.

1835
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 2: Savings So New york merrial, race Which i'm following with

1836
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of. Interest so the Guy, mindarmi who's A,

1837
01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 2: democrat and to call him A democrat is to misrepresent.

1838
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,559
Speaker 2: Him really he's basically a. Communist, anyway he's currently winning

1839
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 2: poles have him at forty six. Percent nearest rival Is.

1840
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 2: Cuomo quomo went against him in terms of The democratic

1841
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 2: nomination and the primary and, lost and that's where the

1842
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,639
Speaker 2: thing became really interesting because that was a boil. Over

1843
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 2: so then the question was Does cuomo stay in the,

1844
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:42,760
Speaker 2: race and if he, does how so he stays in

1845
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:44,800
Speaker 2: as an, independent which is where he is at the

1846
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 2: moment forty six to thirty. Six, Now mindami's turned up

1847
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 2: On fox this morning with a message for Mister.

1848
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 21: TRUMP i want to take this moment because you spoke

1849
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,639
Speaker 21: About President, trump and he may be watching right, now

1850
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:57,679
Speaker 21: AND i just want to speak directly to The, president

1851
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 21: which is THAT i will not be a mayor Like Mayor,

1852
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 21: adams who will call you to figure out how to

1853
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 21: stay out of. JAIL i won't be a disgraced governor

1854
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 21: Like Andrew cuomo who will call you to ask how

1855
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 21: to win the. SELECTION i can do those things on my.

1856
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 21: OWN i, will, however be a mayor who is ready

1857
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:13,600
Speaker 21: to speak at any time to lower the cost of.

1858
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:16,000
Speaker 21: Living that's the way THAT i am going to leave this.

1859
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 21: City that's the PARTNERSHIP i want to, build not only With, WASHINGTON,

1860
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 21: dc but anyone across this.

1861
01:30:20,040 --> 01:30:22,640
Speaker 2: Country simply not. TRUE i, mean he's not going to

1862
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:25,640
Speaker 2: lower the cost of living at. All but don't get

1863
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 2: me started on that. Anyway cuomo and the other, guy

1864
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 2: and this is the fly in the, ointment guy Called

1865
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 2: Sleevera Curtis. Sleewer so he's the. Conservative. Now he was

1866
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:35,880
Speaker 2: claiming the other day that he's getting calls on a

1867
01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 2: fairly regular basis from money In New york, as some

1868
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 2: of which may or may not be connected To trump

1869
01:30:41,040 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 2: to step out of the race because essentially what The

1870
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 2: trump team, wants or what most conservatives, want is a

1871
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 2: head to head With mendami And. Cuomo and as soon

1872
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 2: As sleeva stays in the, race he splits The cuomo

1873
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:54,080
Speaker 2: vote or the independent, vote or the conservative vote or

1874
01:30:54,080 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call. It but so by him

1875
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 2: staying in the, race it becomes a. Problem so that's

1876
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:01,360
Speaker 2: where we're at. Currently mendami look at this stage anyway

1877
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:05,519
Speaker 2: to be heading towards the mayor's. Job first election debate

1878
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 2: is tomorrow when you might have something under your program

1879
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:10,759
Speaker 2: With richard And. Co when we join you For Friday

1880
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,519
Speaker 2: morning A, solution as, Always Happy.

1881
01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:21,720
Speaker 1: Days for more from The Mic Asking, breakfast listen live

1882
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 1: to News. Talks it'd be from six am, weekdays or

1883
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:25,880
Speaker 1: follow the podcast On.

1884
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:26,680
Speaker 4: iHeartRadio