1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Welcome along to the Unnamed Podcast Wednesday, the thirteenth of 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: November twenty twenty four. Mas, she's here pushing the buttons. 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: Executive produder producer Rooters in attendance, Morning, Yeah, Morning, and 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: Sky Sport presenter, commentator, former professional rugby player, Age Group 5 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 1: provincial cricketer Joey wa player agent, player agent, Joey Wheeler. 6 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: Do you want to become myself a talent manager? 7 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: Player agent? Yeah, player agent, A man who's gone through 8 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: life with the same initials as me. Yeah, Yes, you're me. 9 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: We've got the same initials. We know what it feels 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: like to have the initials j W. 11 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: Jerry and Joey. 12 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: That's right. 13 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 3: I saw you've got a suitcase out here with your 14 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 3: initials on it this morning. 15 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Joey. Yeah. 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 3: Assume is that one of your eggs playing Day's kitbags? 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you came in this morning and you said, oh, 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 2: is that one of from the Hunters or the Malory 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: or Blacks. No, not the Malory, all Blacks because the Maoris. 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: We just got numbered kit. 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: Okay, just your number kit. 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're number six, so your kit has number 23 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: six on it. Initials. 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 3: No, that's too personalized. They can't use it for the 25 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 3: boys next year. 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: And your trek seats back and it feels like me 27 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 2: being belittered in like you're eleven or something like that. 28 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: But when I had to retire, when was that twenty 29 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 2: twenty one? I when did some work for the Highlanders 30 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: starting with Halo and it's the staff bag, last lot 31 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 2: of kit. 32 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: Hey, tell me what's it like playing for the Maori 33 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: or Blacks, because it's quite a unique team. Yes, in 34 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: the world, like great history, great tradition. They beat some beaten, 35 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: some amazing international sides. So when you get selected for 36 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: the Maloris, what what does that mean? And what's the 37 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: what's the prep? 38 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: Like the prep it was all about nailing my Pippi 39 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: and for a guy that wasn't brought up understanding his 40 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: Maldi heritage, it was really really intimidating, terrifying. And I 41 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 2: think it was twenty thirteen and that the rules changed 42 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: around eligibility for that team. So you used to have 43 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: to have a sixteenth then it just went to moldy. 44 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: You just had to be moldy. So that's when a 45 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: lot of I suppose pealskin moldies became eligible. So yeah, 46 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: I was terrified. I was terrified going into that environment, 47 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: having you stand up and in front of some of 48 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: the moldy all black grats like Pretty whepoo lem miss 49 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: him and the like, having to recite your piba nailed it. 50 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 2: The other intimidating part is learning the Maori all black 51 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: haka timatanga and how they do it as you come 52 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 2: up and threw. So everyone goes up in front of 53 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: the older statesman, the senior player. So I think that 54 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: year it was obviously pretty Liam and oh heck Elliott 55 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: sat at the front, and we'd come up in threes 56 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: and Pretty would lead and you'd have to It'll be 57 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 2: the first bit of the hocker that you'd have to do. 58 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: And if you weren't passionate enough, you weren't loud enough, 59 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 2: you weren't the actions weren't defined enough, you'd just go 60 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: no back of line and then next group will come up, 61 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: and he just kept doing it through the whole hockey. 62 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 2: That's how you got good at it. Yeah wow, yeah, 63 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: And that was as intimidating as anything. My first time 64 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: we were North North America, we went to and poor 65 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: old Liam Squire was in the exact same position as me. 66 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: First tour first time Maldi or Blacks and he had 67 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: to go do a group of them had to go 68 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: do some media on must have been the Tuesday or 69 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: the Wednesday, one of those days, and it was like 70 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: esp in, quite a big news station, and they made 71 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: the boy do the we've only had two days of 72 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 2: practice and Liam not the most coordinated bloke, he's only 73 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: had two days of practicing. The harker to do it 74 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: on live TV. 75 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, that's a whole nother level of stuff though, 76 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: because you know, you're worried about how you're going to 77 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: perform as a player exactly, but then when you're worried 78 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: about tea hunger. Yeah, I imagine that's quite that's quite intimidating. Yeah, yeah, 79 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: who did you guys? So who did you play against 80 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: when you played for the Maldish Canada? 81 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: We play We played the British and Irish lines in 82 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: twenty seven. 83 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: Did you guys? Did you guys beat them? 84 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 2: No? No, it was it was the previous two and 85 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: five where they beat them. I think it was napier. 86 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: Maybe we played them in rot room and we didn't 87 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 2: play well. Oh we had a bad night at the office, right, Yeah, 88 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: hazy little bit of rain really played into their hands. 89 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: All right, it's disappointing you play Mouldi rugby, you know, 90 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: yeah yeah, beat the ship out of us. 91 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: Really oh okay, yeah those big units. 92 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: But now awesome experience, hell of a team, so much tradition. Yeah, 93 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: and a lot of fun. You have a lot of fun. 94 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: Right yeah, yeah, yeah, I've always I've always been. I 95 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: don't know, it's just such a great record. Like it's 96 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: a crazily good record. 97 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 2: Teams don't want to play the Malden they yeah, they 98 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 2: really don't because of the fear of Jesus. Guys, they'll 99 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 2: give us a real run for our money. 100 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a there's a there's a passion. 101 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: That's a different level of pression. It's a different connection 102 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: because you are bound by blood. You know, you're all Moldy. 103 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 2: You've got that in common, which is far out. It's 104 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: pretty special. 105 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, later on we should take a break 106 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: and come back in a second. We haven't been taking breaks. 107 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: You noticed that. 108 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 4: Message them in the done a good job. 109 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 3: That's all right, you know, I get all that, mate. 110 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 3: I don't like to complain, you know, me. 111 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: Up good to have a serotonin back today. 112 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 3: The serotonin is actually not coming back. 113 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: As I'm like, come back, and then hey, looks like 114 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: it's come back. 115 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 3: I think I'll take that as a compliment. But I 116 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 3: still feel a little bit behind the eight ball. I'm 117 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 3: still waiting for that email from Pixie Campbell saying I 118 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 3: had a couple of days off, butod luck, I haven't 119 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 3: got that one yet. Good luck with that, mate, A 120 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 3: couple of days and low maybe, I know, good luck? 121 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: Good luck with that? 122 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: Get that a couple of sick days tomorrow for me? Boys, 123 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 3: I think, actually, good with good luck, we're there. Yeah, 124 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 3: that'll get anyway. 125 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: We're taking a break, yeah, right, so later on we're 126 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: going to hit the nets. I know you're hoping for 127 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: a little bit of rain, and it looks like there's 128 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: a little bit of drizzle out there, but that's not 129 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: going to stop us from having the nets. 130 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 3: You know, No, I don't like to you know me, boys, 131 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: I take my health and safety very seriously and I 132 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: don't like to about play any cricket in the wet. 133 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: So unfortunately, if there is rain coming and we're. 134 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: Tough on the run up, though, Jerry, what are we 135 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 2: going to do with that? If it is raining I've 136 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: got I've got the yips as it is. 137 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: And we'll work something through. I mean, either normally, as 138 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: I said, we've got to start with start with the basics. 139 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: I think we will start with your run up and 140 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: then we'll work through to just some strategies around around 141 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: how you're approaching each other and making sure that you're 142 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: thinking about putting the ball in the right direction. And basically, 143 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: I think your job, Joey, you know, from my perspective, 144 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: coaching you in this situation, and I've taken on the 145 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: role of you haven't asked me to coach you, but 146 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: I've decided that I'm going to do it anyway. 147 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 2: I'd say it it's more of a mental ship. 148 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: And that's kind of you. But I think as a 149 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: person of your size and stature, I think it's important 150 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: that you dictate the over I think you need to. 151 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: You need to show the batsman whose boss from ball one? 152 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so bully the pitch. 153 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, my strategy if I were if I were you, 154 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: I would say I just push them back and this crease. 155 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: Just pushing back with the first couple of deliveries and 156 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: maybe pushing back with three, maybe even a little bit 157 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: of chin music the over now and then I think 158 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: probably ball four, that's the ball that you look to 159 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: get him out with just a. 160 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 2: Little bit stump out, a little fuller, maybe just shaping away. 161 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: A fractions and finally you think I hear something, I 162 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: can finally something in my half and then out. 163 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 3: That reminds me O went out to Lincoln I think 164 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: in about twenty sixteen twenty seventeen when I was playing 165 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: all Right cricket and that we had to plan on 166 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: an auto turf because it's been running overnight and we 167 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 3: were taking on Lincoln and for some reason, for whatever reason, 168 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: Henry Shipley was playing for them there, and all I'll 169 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 3: say is he had no issues with bowling sixteen year old, 170 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: some half trackers for over after over after over, and look, 171 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: I'm still it over it, you know, eight years old. 172 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: So I'm actually having some flashbacks from that because he's 173 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: a simody built man to you. I think he's about 174 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: I think he's six ' five. 175 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: A little bit shorter a good time. 176 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: I remember thinking at the back of the you know, 177 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 3: he looked big at the back of us. 178 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: Would you try player a hook shot at all or 179 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: you just get out of the way. 180 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 3: I was getting out of everything. Yeah, everything, even as 181 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 3: a tall man myself eyes, that's the right. 182 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: When you're on a full strip, it's a little bit 183 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: different because you know you can get underneath them, a 184 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: little bit different when you're playing in a net, because 185 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: you might get one on the on the bit that 186 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: goes from the grass to that and that fizzles at you. 187 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 3: Also, these big park next down here, they've got people 188 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 3: with lighters on them every second night, playing on the 189 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 3: day five and. 190 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: Fireworks still recovering from from November five. But interestingly, MESHI, 191 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: you've chosen two seeds here, and I've got to say 192 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: the two seeds that you've chosen, I say, are hoping 193 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: a brand new two piece red King. You've chosen this 194 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: white thing here, which is like a pie basically it's 195 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: so soft. And this other four piece here, which has 196 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: got a nasty little seam on that I got to say, 197 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: but nasty. Yeah, that thing looks like it might reverse. Yeah, 198 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: I think that one might reverse. You reckon that. 199 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: That was an old ball of yours. 200 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. I bought a dozen Indian four pieces 201 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: in two thousand and six, six or something, because when 202 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: I built a cricket need at my house and I thought, 203 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: I need to I need to get some ball for it, 204 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: and so I went online and yeah, bought. I bought 205 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: a dozen of these things for like they're like ten 206 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: bucks each or something, and they just basically they're like rocks, 207 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: so they kill you back. Yeah. 208 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 4: Have you heard the rumor that once Joe gets the 209 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 4: ball in his hand, the hard ball, he gets red 210 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 4: missed in his eyes, kind of like someone like. 211 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: Alan Donald or Neil Wagner. 212 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. I've got a line heart like gonna 213 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: be one of those. Yeah, there's gonna be one of 214 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 3: those situations where you just keepheading me with. 215 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: The one more, one more, one more. That's always the thing, 216 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 1: isn't it. Club cricket. You always know that this guy's 217 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: going to steam and for five or four and then 218 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: he's going to run out of pace. But a guy 219 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: that just keeps coming and coming and coming, and that's 220 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: no fun. I used to hate New Sessions as a 221 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: crooked out like it was. I just hated it because 222 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: bowlers just feel twenty clicks quicker. 223 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's because we're over stepping by about a meter. 224 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think I was like, make you better 225 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: as a batsman. Well you're over stepping by good point 226 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 3: reaction time. 227 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was easy when you're out in the middle. 228 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: I always thought that if you're ever in a team 229 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: where you had good past bowlers in your team that 230 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: you faced on the nets, that's what it was always 231 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: good because it was hell at practice. It was no fun. 232 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: But then on a Saturday you get out there and 233 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: these doubly doublers had come in and has smashed them 234 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: around the place. It's beautiful, it's good, it's good for you. 235 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: Look at those Australian teams and stuff, and all our 236 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: best teams as well have had a couple of guys 237 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: with a bit of pace in them, because if you've 238 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: got guys at this bowl military medium all the time, 239 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: it's not used to it. 240 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: Have we thought about fellas like what happens if I 241 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: managed to get ahold of a couple here and that's likely, 242 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: And what happens if I get a hold of a 243 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 3: couple and then all of sudden care and has given 244 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: me the caller? 245 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: Well that there's a chart. You've never played a game 246 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: of rugby in your life. 247 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: Well, no, that's true. I also played a game rugby. 248 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: And I don't think I have Have you ever played rugby? 249 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever played a game of rugby. 250 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: Well, look, if it comes to it and we have 251 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: to get you and the shield and I have to 252 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 2: just smash you o the tackle, then rugby side, it's. 253 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: Gonna know nobody's going. But don't don't forget as well, Meshy. 254 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 4: You're you're a young man and you're mid twenties, and 255 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 4: what is it for a batsman? Is it late twenties 256 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 4: to early thirties is sort of when you start heading 257 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 4: your prime thirty two two? So yours are still good 258 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 4: to come, Meshy. 259 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: Your eyesight will be perfect, Jesus will it? Body is 260 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 2: just a broken mess, so you should be You should 261 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: be spanking. 262 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: Me all over the park? 263 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 3: How is the body actually? 264 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 2: Ship? 265 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: Is it really? 266 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 3: Is it real? 267 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 1: Poor fucker? Mate? 268 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: Two shoulder operations of surgery and nick surgery, the need 269 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 2: to have need to have two ankles done, do mate, 270 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: or rugby? And an actual wreck? 271 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 272 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: Thirty seven going on sixty seven? 273 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, getting out of bed in the morning. Tough to practices. 274 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: That's a problem rugby. It's not for games, are you bloody? 275 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: Constant practicing Jamie Joseph's got a lot to answer for. 276 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: I wonder about that sometimes you must have theories on that, 277 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: like whether or not there's actually too much, whether that's 278 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 1: the thing that's taking in out of you. 279 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: Well, I know in Japan, like I did five seasons 280 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: up there, two of them were back to back, were 281 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: super ugby. So I just played all year round, which 282 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: was awesome. Then we went Japan changed their season timing, 283 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 2: so went full time Japan. But their pre season they 284 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: don't start until December this season, but we would be 285 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: up there in pre season middle of September, so and 286 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: they were, oh, mate, and you'll be playing a lot 287 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 2: of preseason games before you even rip into the proper season. 288 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Tough work. Yeah, so much training. Yeah, I heard 289 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: that Japanese is love training. It's mainly training and then 290 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: a game. But it's actually rugby is really about training 291 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: and not really about the actual game exactly. That's kind 292 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: of the Japanese way though, Japanese. 293 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: And do it over and over and over and over 294 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: and over again, you'll get better. 295 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: At it all, right. Yeah. Yeah, I think I remember 296 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: Beaver telling me that was when he was up there, 297 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: it was like, this is I didn't really listen to him, 298 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: but he's like, this is this is how we should 299 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: do it. We should try and change this up, we 300 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: should change this. 301 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: So we did. At our team, we had a coach 302 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 2: for three years and we did this. I could tell 303 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: you for the three years he was in charge, we 304 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: did the same thing Monday to Saturday for all three years, 305 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: same training, same drills every day. 306 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: Wow, how loong is the Japanese season fifteen round robin games? 307 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: Fifteen? 308 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? Two guys, two buys in there? Yeah, it's actually 309 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 2: that's called the semi final. 310 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: Decent size season. 311 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteen. Yeah. 312 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: Is it possible just to play in Japan and not 313 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: play anywhere else? 314 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, yeah, you just played. Yeah, those boys, the 315 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: big the big dogs over there, will be the highest 316 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: earning reggay players in the world, now do you Yeah? 317 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: Right, quite a bit more than France. 318 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: Ye. Interesting, the biggest market in the world Japan for 319 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: record players. 320 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: Now yeah, is that off the back of just the corporations? 321 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: Are there owned by corporations or something? Because you work 322 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: for you play for Toyota and yes stuff. 323 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: You're employed by. 324 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: Panasonic or Sun Tour h Suntory. So what does Sun 325 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: toy Do Food and beverage company okay, one of the 326 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: biggest privately owned food and beverage companies in the world right, 327 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: owned by two families, the Saji family and the Tory family. 328 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: So they own jim Beam. Gives you a bit of 329 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: an idea of their wealth. Yeah, jim Bean worldwide. 330 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: They bought it for around twenty billion US dollars or 331 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: something sixteen billion NEWIST dollars, wow, ten billion in cash. 332 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. It's a crazy amount of wealth in Japan. 333 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: But you don't see it. No, it's not quite like 334 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: the States or Europe where you really sit. I mean 335 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: the States, you really see the wealth there. I mean 336 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot, there's more wealth. 337 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: And well Tokyo because it's just so jam packed, right, 338 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: and they're probably living in the fortieth story of an 339 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 2: unbelievable part looking over Tokyo, you know, but you just 340 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: don't see it because the forty bloody story is high up. 341 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you don't see the flesh cars driving around. 342 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: You see those lovely beautiful crowns that are obviously going 343 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: a driver, yeah, or the old school crowd Texis, the 344 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 2: black taxis Yeah. 345 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I think there's other ways. Weird rules in 346 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: Japan out there around cars. So for every if you 347 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: buy a car, you also have to have a car 348 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: park direct. You can't buy a car without without without 349 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: a car park. That's quite good, that makes sense. Yeah, 350 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: well there's no car parks in Tokyo. I mean you 351 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: can't park on the side of the road or anything 352 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: like that. As a result, there's not actually that much 353 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: traffic for a city of that size. 354 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 2: And they told you the baggery to get into the city. 355 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 2: So if you drive into the city on the toll roads, 356 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: you're getting charged the fortune. Oh yeah, whereas if you 357 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: jump on the public transport cheapest chips. 358 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: It makes sense. 359 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 360 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was up there at the beginning of the 361 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: year driving around in the snow, and they they love 362 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: a snow tire. 363 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: Man. 364 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: I was amazed in New Zealand. In New Zealand, in 365 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 1: South Island snows, everyone just goes completely insane. This car 366 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: is sliding off into banks and all sorts of In Japan, no, no, 367 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: you just keep driving and they've all got snow tires 368 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: and you just you can. You can drive in these 369 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: snow tires, no chains and you're cruising around. It's absolutely sensational. Yeah, 370 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: it's quite cool. Everyone. You've got to have you have 371 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 1: to have legally, you have to have snow tires. They 372 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: go up north, Yeah, in the mountain. We were in 373 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: nagin and you've got to in there, you Yeah, you 374 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: have to have snow tires. 375 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: So snow tire is it just like a big full 376 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 2: drive tire. 377 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: It's a foil drive tire that's softer, right, So they 378 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: don't they don't get hard when they get cold. That's 379 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: part of the problem is that the tire hardens up 380 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: and then it slides, whereas these are much These are 381 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: softer and and they they The theory I think is 382 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: that they just grip the snow a little bit better 383 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: ice or snow. But you're driving like sixty or seventy 384 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: along these completely snow covered roads, like full snow cover, no, 385 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: like not not tracks, and you can hardly see where 386 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: you're going. Just everyone's faring along at eighty. Some people 387 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 1: are like driving one hundred. It's crazy. It's crazy drinking 388 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: a say here as you. 389 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 2: Go, that's one thing over there. You're not allowed zero tolerant. 390 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know that, didn't you. No? Oh lord, 391 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: I was told it's not my fault. I was ignorant. 392 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: I was told by someone that that's all good, it 393 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: turns out. And then I was telling the kids, you know, 394 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: as I'm driving along with them, to say he and 395 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: post skiing. And I said to the kids, and they 396 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: were like, should you be doing I don't worry about it, kids. 397 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: Are you allowed to do it over here? It's different rules, 398 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, this is the thing around the world, different rules. 399 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: And I mean I was I wasn't drunk. I was 400 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: just having and is it a big can big care? 401 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: That was a big one, yeah, five hundred mother, and 402 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: with the with the top that comes off from them, yeah, 403 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: number and the phone and and then you said, have 404 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: you checked that rule? And I said, I said no, 405 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure someone said it's all good here and so 406 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: she googled it and it's like you can go to 407 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: prison for driving as I'm driving. I'm like. 408 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 2: The great thing about the Japanese they just they follow 409 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 2: the rules to the leather of the law. You could 410 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 2: go buy a beer from a like a like like 411 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: a vending machine over there, No kids buy them. 412 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: You imagine that. New Zealand. Yeah, and the dirry you 413 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: can buy the daries from the vending They don't even think, oh, no, 414 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: you've got to be You've got to be twenty or eighteen, 415 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: whatever it is over there. Apparently, though, if you went 416 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: and bought, if you were a cat and you're at 417 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: the vending machine buying darries and another adult saw you 418 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: do it, apparently they give you a good telling off. 419 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: Someone someone told. 420 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: Me old school. 421 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah they got around the ears. Yeah, yeah, it's an interesting, 422 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: interesting way of doing it. But I love that you know, 423 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: by your by your assay, he's in the get on 424 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: the bullet train drinking. There's no problem as long as 425 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: you want annoying anyone else, that fine with that. 426 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 2: My first trip over there, my first away trip. It's 427 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: sunt where he hadn't gone too good the season before, 428 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 2: so we had heaps of away games down and Orsucker 429 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: and George Smith had just come back to the to 430 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 2: the team from having a stint in France, and we 431 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 2: backed Titsu, which is a Warsucker based team on our 432 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: first game, last minute, and over there, you drive the 433 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 2: you go back on that night of the game because 434 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 2: there's just so many shenkansins that you can get on 435 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: to get back to Tokyo, get on the Shankhansen. Before 436 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 2: we're hitting there, he goes, lads, convenience store, we're all 437 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: buying beers. I was like, all right, first game for me. 438 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 2: I was like, oh Jesus, I want to be doing 439 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 2: this no alcohol company. We've got to be helping the 440 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,719 Speaker 2: company and getting the boys all tight. So we go 441 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: on there, myself of course, on George Smith and he 442 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 2: goes gets a what do you call it, bloody bags 443 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: and he it's a whole row of premium molts, suntory 444 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 2: premium malts, just tips it into the into his bags 445 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: with them as Joe, you do the same. Of course, 446 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: you do the same. We walk on the with our bag, 447 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 2: rolling our bag, not two bags of boody beers and 448 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 2: high balls, spin the seats around, so you've got three 449 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 2: faces in each way and we're just right on. 450 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: But real civilized drink your power in the person. 451 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: The cadences high tempo, and you know the Japanese go 452 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: bright red straight away. One beer in and they're bright red. 453 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't not not great like you know drinkers, 454 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: interns of volume, but they. 455 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: They don't mind getting shipped faced. 456 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,719 Speaker 1: No, it's fine. You're allowed to get absolutely as long 457 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: as you're not causing any problems exactly. 458 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 2: And I think that's great. Yeah, fall asleep at the 459 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: bar because you're too hammered. 460 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of good. 461 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 2: It's fine. 462 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: It's a weird one, the rule that we have over 463 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: here where you can't be drunk, Like, if you're drunk, 464 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 1: it's it's a problem all of a sudden. But if 465 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: you're at a bar and you're asleep, what is You 466 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: don't have any damage to me at that point. You're 467 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: just asleep. What's the difference. And we've got a thing 468 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: around you know, you're not allowed to be drunk. It's wrong, 469 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: but some one person's one person's drunk is another person. 470 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 1: I could be reasonably drunk, and people don't know that 471 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: I'm necessarily drunk. Yes, you know, some people show up 472 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: better than others and or less than others. And over 473 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: there they've got a thing of like it's not for 474 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: me to tell you what you do. You know, as 475 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: long as you're not upsetting anyone else, And they are 476 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: very strict on that though. You can't be annoying other people. 477 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: As soon as you become an annoyance, you can pass off. 478 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: They'll come down quite hard. They'll come down super hard 479 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: on you much. 480 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 481 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: I think they've got that. I think they've got that right. 482 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: Europeans but like that too. 483 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 2: Are they. 484 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you go to Germany and stuff like that, they're 485 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: like failure boots. 486 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: Let the dogs out, stay in check. 487 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, whereas we've got a we've got a different 488 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: sort of thing over here. We've got a careful if 489 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: you let the dogs out, everybody. Yeah, no, it's it's 490 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: I don't even know how to explain it, but it's 491 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: just a different thing, it is. All right, Okay, let's 492 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: get down to the nets. Yes, that's hard and heavy, Boots. Thanks, 493 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: it's been a lot of fun. 494 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. 495 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: Thanks, mate, really enjoyed it.