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Speaker 1: Jamie McKay hosted The Countries with Me tonight. Hi Jamie,

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Speaker 1: good Ryan. Now this stoush, if that's what you call

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Speaker 1: it between fed farmers, fish and game in Southland, it's

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Speaker 1: all getting a bit much. I saw yesterday there was

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Speaker 1: claims of or was it this morning, claims of bullying,

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Speaker 1: all sorts going on here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well this claims claims and counter claims. I describe

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Speaker 2: it as high noon at the Ok Corral, and the

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Speaker 2: ducks aren't the only thing that might not get or

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Speaker 2: that might get shot down there. Metaphorically of course, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: I cover my backside on that one. So look basically

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Speaker 2: like fed farmers and fish and game have been at

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Speaker 2: war for quite a while. A couple of years ago

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Speaker 2: they were encouraging farmers not to let anglers through their properties,

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Speaker 2: and now they're fighting over what Southern President of Federated

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Speaker 2: Farmers Chasin Herrick described as that farmers down there have

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Speaker 2: had an absolute guts full of fish and games, anti

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Speaker 2: farming rhetoric and activism. So what he's suggesting, or what

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Speaker 2: their latest campaign is, they want to see the duck

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Speaker 2: shooters or the duck hunters to be more politically correct

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Speaker 2: by their game bird licenses from regions working constructively with farmers,

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Speaker 2: and he threw out Hawks Bay and Greater Wellington as

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Speaker 2: an example. Now Jason's saying they get five thousand hunters

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Speaker 2: coming down to Southland for the duck shooting weekend first

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Speaker 2: Saturday in May, and being a Southland and myself Ryan

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Speaker 2: and owning a duck pond down there, I know exactly

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Speaker 2: what it's like. And Jason saying it's part of our

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Speaker 2: cultural identity. If all these people buy their licenses out

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Speaker 2: of the region, it will take a fair chunk of

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Speaker 2: money away from Southland fishing game. Now the twenty five

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five game bird licenses are on sale now

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Speaker 2: they'll cost you one hundred and thirteen dollars, and Jason

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Speaker 2: Herrick saying he's not asking shooters not to buy license,

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Speaker 2: just buy them from another region. Now he's also saying

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Speaker 2: south and fishing game have been unnecessarily obstructive in so

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Speaker 2: many areas, like opposing farmers from removing gravel that's built

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Speaker 2: up to dangerous levels and rivers, and obviously when they

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Speaker 2: flood it makes it even worse. Now, also coming to

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Speaker 2: the party is the new Hunting and Fishing Minister and

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Speaker 2: the New South Island Minister James Meagher, who's calling for

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Speaker 2: a de escalation intentions. He's saying relations have become strained

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Speaker 2: and that farmers and fishing game should work happily together. Also,

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Speaker 2: tension has escalated over the duck population down in Southam.

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Speaker 2: They had a very wet spring, great survival rates and

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Speaker 2: there's literally an explosion in the mallard population. They're an

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Speaker 2: introduced species, they're described or they are a pest for

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Speaker 2: especially cropping farmers, and they're munching through those crops at

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Speaker 2: the moment. So they're saying fishing game need to think

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Speaker 2: very carefully about doing something about this, such as introducing

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Speaker 2: perhaps a summer autumn shooting season. Other areas have done

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Speaker 2: it in the past to try and reduce that population.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, now you've spoken to Keith Woodford about Fonterra's

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Speaker 1: plans to sell mainland today. What's he had to say.

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Speaker 2: Well, Professor Keith Woodford one of the sharpest minds in

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Speaker 2: New Zealand agriculture. Look, he's saying there's a couple of options.

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Speaker 2: One is just to sell it hole as Bowlus to

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Speaker 2: an offshore entity, a marketing an international dairy marketer. The

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Speaker 2: other one is to have an IPO, an initial public

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Speaker 2: offering in New Zealand, and he's suggesting Fonterra could still

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Speaker 2: hold a minority shareholding in this public company, perhaps thirty percent.

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Speaker 2: He says the IPO option under Fonterra's preferred title of

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Speaker 2: Mainland gives all New Zealanders a potential stake in the

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Speaker 2: dairy industry. This would allow Fonterra to retain a window

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Speaker 2: to what's happening at consumer level now. Obviously an IPO

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Speaker 2: is more complex and a straight out sale, but he's

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Speaker 2: suggesting the likes of the National Superfund or ACC could

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Speaker 2: take a cornerstone investment in this and then give Kiwis

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to buy a steak in the New Zealand

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Speaker 2: airy industry. Professor Keith Woodford said, it's part of our

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Speaker 2: national DNA on which we all depend. So who knows

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Speaker 2: you might be able to get a chunk of Fonterra

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Speaker 2: through this mainland entity at the Cloaks.

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Speaker 1: I think would take a bit of that, wouldn't we. Jamie,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Jamie mckaye hosted the Country with Us tonight.

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