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Speaker 1: So change coming to the way we get behind the wheel,

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Speaker 1: only one practical test instead of two. Restricted drivers with

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Speaker 1: defensive driving and the clean record will gain their full

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Speaker 1: license up to twelve months. The Transport Minister Chris Buship,

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Speaker 1: good morning, good morning. Now the numbers I found interesting

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Speaker 1: that don't have licenses. Do we know why people don't

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Speaker 1: have their full license?

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Speaker 2: We don't know exactly. I mean anecdotally certainly people I

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Speaker 2: talk to going from your restricted to your full sitting

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Speaker 2: in that second test, if you already know how to drive,

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Speaker 2: it's really stressful. It's not expensive, by the way, it's

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Speaker 2: one hundred bucks. You've got to take time off school

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Speaker 2: or work or whatever you're doing. You've got to go

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Speaker 2: bock it. You've got to find a time that suits everybody.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people just don't bother graduating from their

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Speaker 2: restricted to their full So there are a lot of

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Speaker 2: people out there right now breaking the law, just driving

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Speaker 2: on they're restricted. That's not good. You also want young

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Speaker 2: people in particularly to graduate through the system properly, and

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Speaker 2: so we're bringing his Zeal into line with other countries.

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Speaker 2: Most countries don't have a second practical test. Australia doesn't

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Speaker 2: for example, just graduate automatically through the system.

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Speaker 1: That's three hundred and sixty two dollars you talk about

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Speaker 1: for the cost. Do we know if that's inhibitive and

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Speaker 1: or is it a ripoff?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, certainly anecdotally it is a It is an inhibitor

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Speaker 2: for people from sitting there second practical for example. It's

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Speaker 2: partly while we're doing the consultation is to find out

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Speaker 2: a bit more about that. You know that the system

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Speaker 2: hasn't been reviewed since twenty eleven. Last time it was

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Speaker 2: done was back in twenty ten Stephen Joyce put the

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Speaker 2: age up from fifteen to sixteen for your luner license.

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Speaker 2: But we basically haven't looked at the system since then.

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Speaker 2: So this is this is about keeping up to date

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Speaker 2: with what's happening and bringing the law into line with

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Speaker 2: reality to some extent.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the demeritive fifty instead of one hundred, is that

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Speaker 1: real or theory? In other words, does it make any

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Speaker 1: difference at all the people's driving habits or ability.

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Speaker 2: It's a quid pro quo for getting rid of the

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Speaker 2: second practical test for people getting their full license. It's

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Speaker 2: designed to send a really clear message that you shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be having any traffic infringements, you know, if you're on

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Speaker 2: your learner or you're restricted. And so it's designed to

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Speaker 2: send the message and make it really clear that we

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Speaker 2: want you to have full compliance with the law. Learn

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Speaker 2: how to drive properly, don't drink and drive, don't have

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Speaker 2: traffic traffic infringements, and you know once you've once you've

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Speaker 2: done that, you're good to go.

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Speaker 1: Now, the nj TA is going to look at introducing

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Speaker 1: a hazard perception test. What does that mean?

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Speaker 2: So when you do your full license, one of the

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Speaker 2: things that they test you on and your second practical

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Speaker 2: is hazards. And so if you obviously by getting rid

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Speaker 2: of the second test, the practical test, that would get

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Speaker 2: you essentially put potentially fall out of the system. And

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Speaker 2: so it's about basically about transferring that into your first

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Speaker 2: practical test to make sure you're taken to a cat

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Speaker 2: Your hazards is that you know how I mean, you

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Speaker 2: probably don't know, Mike, because you've still got your license,

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Speaker 2: but you know, and you go with your instructor out

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Speaker 2: and they say, now point out all the hazards on

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Speaker 2: the road. And you've got your cyclist and your school

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Speaker 2: curtain and part car and the guy reversing that way,

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Speaker 2: and you know all that sort of stuff. Is that

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Speaker 2: that's what it is. It's hazard perception really important.

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Speaker 1: All right, go well and appreciate it. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: what's the it's the timeframe and all.

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Speaker 2: This we're consulting now. We want to make decisions by

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Speaker 2: the end of the year, but it won't take a

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Speaker 2: feat until next year. We've got to we've got to

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Speaker 2: get the details right on the stuff. It's too important

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Speaker 2: not to.

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Speaker 1: Okay, appreciate time. Christmas Transport Minister with us this morning.

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