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Speaker 1: Pressing the newspakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand let's

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Speaker 1: That'd be.

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Speaker 3: Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today,

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Speaker 3: We're going to have attacked to Peter Dunn, former politician

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Speaker 3: Ruth Isaac of doc on the fact that they plan

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Speaker 3: to charge us twenty bucks to be able to go

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Speaker 3: to iconic places. And Ben Smith, the former All Black

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Speaker 3: on the upcoming test this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Heather Duplicy Ellen, Look.

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Speaker 3: If you didn't like the disrespect that was shown to

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Speaker 3: Parliament yesterday, you're not alone. It's become really clear in

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Speaker 3: the last twenty four hours that people across the board,

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Speaker 3: and I'm talking about people from voters to commentators to

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Speaker 3: But regardless, I've got some bad news for you. Get

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Speaker 3: used to it, because this kind of carry on is

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Speaker 3: not going to stop. I suspect it's going to carry on.

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Speaker 3: It's going to get worse into the future. Well you

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Speaker 3: need to understand is that politics is not the preserve

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Speaker 3: people who respect systems and respect authority and respect rules

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Speaker 3: who are now doing politics. It's people like Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: It's people like the Maori Party. There are examples all

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Speaker 3: over the world of bad mannered people who are now

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Speaker 3: they're doing deliberately. They are deliberately trying to offend you

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Speaker 3: that is why Trump says the stuff that he says.

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Speaker 3: He says it because it's so offensive that he can

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Speaker 3: guarantee that the US media will cover it. They'll get

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Speaker 3: He will get talked about. And it works because he

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Speaker 3: them elected people in the end, people vote for him, right,

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Speaker 3: it gets them the coverage. You got elected. He've got

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Speaker 3: the popular vote at the last election. That is also

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Speaker 3: because just like Donald Trump, it gets them attention. And

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Speaker 3: look look at what happened yesterday. It's gone worldwide. This

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Speaker 3: is what modern twenty four hours social media driven media rewards. Right,

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Speaker 3: the more outrageous that a politician is, the more shareable

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Speaker 3: They then took all of the Maori electorates at the

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Speaker 3: people like this for being offensive and for having bad manners,

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Speaker 3: So unfortunately, this is politics in New Zealand. Now get

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Speaker 3: used to it. Ever, do for ce Ellens nineteen nineteen's

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Speaker 3: know what you think. We're going to talk to Barry

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Speaker 3: obviously Peter Dune after five in the meantime, Local Government

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Speaker 3: New Zealand is calling on the central government to put

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Speaker 3: some money into local newspapers. Now this comes as in

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Speaker 3: z ME, the company that owns news Talk ZB proposes

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Speaker 3: to cut fourteen North Island based community papers before Christmas.

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Speaker 3: In the Hawk's Bay, what is being cut potentially is

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Speaker 3: Mayor and Local Government New Zealand Rural Chairs Alex Walker, Hey,

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Speaker 3: Alex Keld, Alex why did the Central Hawk's Bay Mail

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Speaker 4: Well, that's a great question. Some would say sign of

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Speaker 4: the right size and such a purpose. But in ZEDNY

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously I don't know any of the detail

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Speaker 3: hasn't got enough advertisers to actually wash its face. So

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Speaker 3: if people aren't actually engaging with it, then why should

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but here's the question.

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Speaker 4: And community would probably give you feedback to say, well, actually,

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Speaker 3: So what would be the business model that you're talking about?

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Speaker 4: Oh, look, I don't know. We need to get creative

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Speaker 4: particularly concerned about what this means for local democracy. If

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Speaker 3: Don't you need to take it online?

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Speaker 4: Potentially? But look across our rural communities we've got we

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Speaker 4: And we have high proportions of elderly people in our

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Speaker 3: Now, Alex, I mean, look, I love news, right, it's

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Speaker 3: Isn't that the kind of thing Actually, I'm not suggesting

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Speaker 3: isn't that the kind of thing that we should be doing.

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Speaker 3: We should be figuring out ways to keep our community

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Speaker 4: Absolutely agree with you, and community has strong conversations online

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Speaker 4: That's why Local Government New Zealand are calling for the

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Speaker 3: How much money would this take.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: We've got local democracy reporting around the country. It's not

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Speaker 4: even coverage and some of it's really tentatively contracted. So

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Speaker 4: for instance, in my community, there is a local democracy

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Speaker 4: and they're only on a test until the end of December.

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Speaker 4: How you can and operate a business model with that

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Speaker 4: lack of certainty on the funding, I don't know. We

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Speaker 4: need to deepen the commitment to this. This is how

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Speaker 3: It, Alexis and thank you very much for talking us

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Speaker 3: through to appreciate it. That's Alex Walker, Central Hawk's Bay

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Speaker 3: Mayor and also the local Government New Zealand Rural Chair

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Speaker 3: hither I find the lowering of decorum in Parliament quite appalling.

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Speaker 3: We should demand more of our decision makers to uphold

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Speaker 3: the standard set before them. But you're right. In my

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Speaker 3: my friends are sharing it the manna. I love them

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Speaker 3: to pieces, but jeep, as this isn't a way to

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Speaker 3: So when because we like to talk about and you'll

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Speaker 3: a little the polarization of politics. We look at it

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Speaker 3: and it's usually said as a kind of snide thing

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Speaker 3: look at how they've polarized politics. That's aimed at Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: It's aimed at all the strong men across Europe and

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Speaker 3: look at the other side. They're doing their bit as well.

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Speaker 3: It's coming from both side. Listen on to the all

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Speaker 3: weird that the all Blacks are being forced to wear

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Speaker 3: we lost. Maybe they think that, maybe they think that

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Speaker 3: that's connected. It's possible they're trying to get us out

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Speaker 3: it works. We'll see. But cheests are a pain, aren't

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Speaker 3: I think French are a pain? Aren't they? Piney's net

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Speaker 2: Who will take the White House results and analysis of

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Speaker 3: Hey, Jason Pine host of Weekend Sports with me right

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Speaker 3: now Piney, Hello, Hello, Heather, Tim Salviy did you see

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Speaker 3: this coming?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, it wasn't a huge shock. I think at

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Speaker 7: Once he wasn't captain anymore. It kind of felt like

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Speaker 7: I think it's a nice way for him to finish

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Speaker 7: against the team he started his career against on home soil,

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Speaker 7: three grounds he likes a lot. He'll finish in Hamilton

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Speaker 7: kind of you know, home soil.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't absolutely know what was coming.

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Speaker 7: But it's no great surprise that he's decided to call

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Speaker 8: And then what does he do?

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Speaker 3: I mean, is he going on to any kind of

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Speaker 7: What he said is he's open to playing domestically so

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Speaker 3: That'd be so doc it's been a subject of conversation.

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Speaker 3: After five o'clock. I'm getting a lot of texts saying, Heather,

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Speaker 3: Babs Hey, if you're going to the Coldplay concert at

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Speaker 3: Junior is an interesting choice, isn't he? By Donald Trump?

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Speaker 1: It's the world wires on youth talks. He'd be drive right.

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Speaker 3: You have got lawmakers from both sides of the Aisle

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Speaker 13: The only conclusion you can reach about the government's change

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Speaker 3: And finally, yeah, third update in a week on those monkeys,

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Speaker 3: The research company is rewarding every monkey that they recapture

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Speaker 2: International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind

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Speaker 3: Are you taking the mickey?

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Speaker 5: I am?

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Speaker 3: It's not say, hey, what do you make of Robert F.

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Speaker 3: Kennedy Jr.

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Speaker 15: Kind Of an interesting choice, isn't it, especially when he's

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Speaker 15: such a big vaccine skeptic to lead the Department of

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Speaker 15: Human Health Services. I mean, this is a guy that

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Speaker 15: is going to be in charge with the you know,

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Speaker 15: health experts right here and administering all this health insurance

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Speaker 15: and approving drugs and medical supplies here. And you know,

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Speaker 15: I mean he he had said, Okay, I'm not going

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Speaker 15: to run for president. He dropped out back in August,

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Speaker 15: which we knew he didn't really stand a chance back then,

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Speaker 15: but he wanted to win a spot in the Trump administration.

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Speaker 15: And he said, you know what, pledging to fight chronic

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Speaker 15: disease is going to be his signature cause right here.

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Speaker 15: But I think you've got a lot of people that

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Speaker 15: are already saying, oh, this is not going to go

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Speaker 15: over too well with a lot of people.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So his view, what is the most egregious thing

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Speaker 3: that he has said about vaccines.

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Speaker 11: He just he's just anti vacs. He just doesn't believe

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Speaker 11: in it. For for for COVID.

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Speaker 15: He uh, he feels that a lot of the federal

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Speaker 15: agency's over here having enough research on the shots that

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Speaker 15: hundreds of millions of us have received for whether it's flu,

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Speaker 15: which you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I mean obviously, you know, slightly

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Speaker 3: problematic to be in that position with that view, but

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Speaker 3: that's cool that that's his view. What's he has he

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Speaker 3: articulated what he plans to do. Is he planning to

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Speaker 3: ban the COVID vaccine? What's up?

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Speaker 15: I don't know if he's going to be able to

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Speaker 15: do anything like that. What he wants to do is

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Speaker 15: though he says that he has studied the response for

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Speaker 15: a lot of these things, he has a better idea

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Speaker 15: for it. He feels that the the the Health Administration

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Speaker 15: is too powerful at this, but he's going to have

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Speaker 15: to go through all kinds of nominations, is going to

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Speaker 15: have to go through the Senate Finance Committee, and I mean,

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Speaker 15: so's he's still got an uphill battle on this.

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Speaker 11: So we'll have to wait and to hear what he

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Speaker 11: has to say.

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Speaker 3: And then is he seriously wanting to take floride out

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Speaker 3: of the water.

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Speaker 11: That's what he says. Yeah, that's what he says.

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Speaker 15: And that's an interesting thing because every couple of years

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Speaker 15: that pops up over here, and you've got states right

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Speaker 15: here that want it out and that don't have it.

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Speaker 15: You have other states that say, no, we need it

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Speaker 15: in here because kids need it, you know, to prevent

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Speaker 15: cavities and so forth. And then you have the conspiracy

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Speaker 15: theorists that say the governments just poisoning us with the

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Speaker 15: floor in the water.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we'll see how this one goes. Just actually, one

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Speaker 3: follow up question on there, sos met Gates may actually

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Speaker 3: not happen because in the attorney general position, because he

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Speaker 3: is so controversial. Is the same true of Kennedy.

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Speaker 15: I think Kennedy's more likely to make it through the

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Speaker 15: Gates is at this point in time. But I mean,

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Speaker 15: anything can happen, especially but it's going to be it's

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Speaker 15: hard to imagine that we Republicans basically controlling everything right

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Speaker 15: here for him not to get through.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So what's going on with X and all the

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Speaker 3: people leaving? Why are they leaving all of a sudden?

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Speaker 3: The place has been a stink for ages you know.

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Speaker 15: It has, and you know the media is making a

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Speaker 15: lot of this that everybody's flooding to apps like blue

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Speaker 15: Sky and Instagram's threads. And you've got people like The

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Speaker 15: Guardian that just said, hey, we're not going to be

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Speaker 15: using X anymore, and and social influencers like Don Lemon,

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Speaker 15: who used to be a CNN said we're not going

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Speaker 15: to be on here. And they've had about a million

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Speaker 15: people that have left in the past week to join

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Speaker 15: other platforms. But what's interesting too, and X, by the way,

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Speaker 15: is not giving us numbers how many people have left

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Speaker 15: the platform, But starting tomorrow, when you sign on to X,

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Speaker 15: which is actually today down where you are, you're going

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Speaker 15: to be agreen to let them use whatever you post

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Speaker 15: to help feed artificial intelligence AI. So they can they

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Speaker 15: can take video, they can take what you're saying, they

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Speaker 15: can take pictures, and that is going to be used

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Speaker 15: for whatever purpose they want to do. You may find

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Speaker 15: your image being used somewhere on this platform as well,

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Speaker 15: and that's what's got a lot of peace people saying, well,

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Speaker 15: wait a minute, if that's the case, not that they're

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Speaker 15: not already doing that, that they're just not interested in.

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Speaker 3: Well, exactly, I was going to say, isn't that what

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Speaker 3: shouldn't we be assuming that absolutely everybody's doing that anyway,

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Speaker 3: you should be assuming that meta on Facebook and Instagram

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Speaker 3: is doing it and everybody else.

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Speaker 15: Right, absolutely, Yeah, whatever you put out there, it's not

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Speaker 15: going anywhere.

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Speaker 11: It's going to be out there.

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Speaker 3: If you're getting it for free, it ain't free. They're

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Speaker 3: taking something off you. Hey, Dan, thank you, appreciate it,

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Speaker 3: and enjoy your weekend. Dan Mitchison, US correspondent Heather ourfk

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Speaker 3: Junior is utterly ripped. What a body and he is

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Speaker 3: seventy now. I saw that text coming a minute ago

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Speaker 3: while Dan was talking. Thank you, Chris, by the way,

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Speaker 3: obviously a woman, Chris as a lady. While Dan was talking,

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Speaker 3: I just did a quick Google search and I'm ashamed

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Speaker 3: to say that my user profile at work now has

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Speaker 3: Robert F. Kennedy shirtless as one of them. And while

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Speaker 3: let me tell you you want go and do it,

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Speaker 3: have a look at this man without a top on.

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Speaker 3: It is holy Hannah. I work with two boys who

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Speaker 3: are in their thirties and they do not have bodies

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Speaker 3: like this man who's in his seventies. So ladies, stop

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Speaker 3: what you're doing right now. Pull the car over, RFK

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Speaker 3: Junior shirtless. You're welcome sixteen away from five.

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Speaker 2: Politics with centric credit, check your customers and get payments.

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Speaker 3: Certaindy fourteen away from five and Barry so per senior

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Speaker 3: political correspondence with us. Hey, Barry afternoon. Yes so, Barry,

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Speaker 3: I mean, if it was like that yesterday when with

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Speaker 3: the first reading, what's it going to be like when

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Speaker 3: the hequaros.

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Speaker 16: Well, certainly, I know there's a lot of worry around

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Speaker 16: Parliament about what could happen then because there'll be tens

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Speaker 16: of thousands of people on the front.

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Speaker 3: Morn and it's a Marti Party organized event. It is

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Speaker 3: a common thing, party organized.

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Speaker 16: It's interesting that yesterday the public galleries were clearly full

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Speaker 16: of Marori Party supporters. Now you can block you can

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Speaker 16: go online and block book those eats in the public

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Speaker 16: galleries in Parliament, and there were block bookings yesterday not

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Speaker 16: under the name of the Maldi party, so there was

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Speaker 16: no way in knowing where these block bookings are related to,

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Speaker 16: and they in fact obviously were organized by the Maldi Party.

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Speaker 16: What the Speaker, as I understand it, is going to

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Speaker 16: do next Tuesday is to ensure that anyone who comes

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Speaker 16: into the public gallery will have to be carrying ID.

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Speaker 16: What kind of ID, well, personal ID. They'll have to

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Speaker 16: show you know who they claim they are that they

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Speaker 16: actually are, and if you've got agitators like we had

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Speaker 16: yesterday in Parliament, likelihood is they probably won't get in.

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Speaker 16: There is a big concern here, Heather, because I've never

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Speaker 16: seen anything from the public galleries that took place yesterday.

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Speaker 16: And there's a danger as well because if you let

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Speaker 16: the public in, you never know what can happen to

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Speaker 16: the elected representative was below. So they've got to have

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Speaker 16: a safe working environment and yesterday, if I was sitting

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Speaker 16: in the House of Parliament, I wouldn't feel that safe.

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Speaker 16: And I think what you'll find next Tuesday, it's going

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Speaker 16: to be a controversial day anyway, despite what's happening outside Parliament.

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Speaker 16: I think you'll probably find up to five MPs will

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Speaker 16: be sent to the Privileges Committee. Now, it's really interesting

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Speaker 16: because the Labor Party voted against the suspension of the

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Speaker 16: Young Maldi MP yesterday and they sit on the Privileges Committee,

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Speaker 16: so what are they going to do about people that

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Speaker 16: are now going to be referred to the Privileges Committee.

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Speaker 16: They can hardly say that you know they've done wrong

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Speaker 16: when they voted against suspension already. So look, it's a

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Speaker 16: bit of a mess at Parliament at the moment, and

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Speaker 16: I think there'll be a lot of reflection about what

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Speaker 16: happened yesterday, and certainly there'll be a significant move to

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Speaker 16: ensure that it doesn't happen again. And I say here

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Speaker 16: here to that because I think the sanctity of Parliament

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Speaker 16: should in some way be maintained, and it certainly hasn't been.

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Speaker 16: I think the standards in that place they've dropped since

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Speaker 16: dare I say it, the old mate Drevermillard was the

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Speaker 16: speaker there because he allowed a relaxation of dress standards.

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Speaker 16: So now you've got t shirts, you've got sneakers. As

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Speaker 16: you saw Rowy White to Tea when he was intimidating

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Speaker 16: David Seymour yesterday with the haka, it's once you drop

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Speaker 16: those standards. And I made it sound like an old

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Speaker 16: fuddy duddy, but you know you've got to have certain

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Speaker 16: standards in Parliament is, you know, the law making place

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Speaker 16: and the center of democracy in this country.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sorry it was sorely lacky do you agree

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Speaker 3: with the point that I made though at the start

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Speaker 3: of the program, which was this is not going to

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Speaker 3: go away. There's nothing you can actually do to stop

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Speaker 3: this because as long as bad behavior like we saw

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Speaker 3: yesterday is rewarded on, you know, with extensive media coverage

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Speaker 3: and social media traction and then and then polls rising

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Speaker 3: and the voters coming over, these parties are incentivized.

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Speaker 16: Well, the only way you can make it go away,

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Speaker 16: of course, is if you carried out the threat that

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Speaker 16: John Key made back when before he became Prime Minister

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Speaker 16: in two thousand and eight he wanted to do away

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Speaker 16: with all the Maldy seats.

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Speaker 3: Now I disagree with your party problem.

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Speaker 16: No, let me finish the Maori party seat. The agitators

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Speaker 16: in this place at the moment. The people that are

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Speaker 16: totally out of order in this place at the moment

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Speaker 16: are those who belong to the Maori.

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Speaker 3: Willie Jackson belongs to label.

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Speaker 16: Well, yeah, he's he's an outlier. And there was you

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Speaker 16: remember there was a lot of criticism bringing Willie Jackson

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Speaker 16: into Parliament in the first place. He was brought in

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Speaker 16: by Andrew Little despite a lot of opposition from his colleagues.

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Speaker 16: So you know when you let ravel into parliament you're

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Speaker 16: going to get this sort of behavior, and I think

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Speaker 16: it's a sorry day for democracy in New Zealand and

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Speaker 16: the sanctity of parliament.

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Speaker 3: Can I just give you my alternative on this, which

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Speaker 3: is I do not think this is a Maori Party problem.

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Speaker 3: I just think the Maori Party are smart enough to

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Speaker 3: have realized that they can emulate what Trump is doing

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Speaker 3: with kind of with with with bad behavior, bad manners

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Speaker 3: and therefore getting media attention. Even if you got rid

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Speaker 3: of the Marti electrics and got rid of the Marti Party,

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Speaker 3: there will be another party that will that will do

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Speaker 3: the same thing.

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Speaker 16: No, I've never seen anything like it, So that you

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Speaker 16: know that doesn't necessarily follow that. You know, people that

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Speaker 16: do get elected to parliament normally they're quite responsible and

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Speaker 16: they normally see that this is a fairly significant role

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Speaker 16: and a place to work in.

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Speaker 15: Not what we saw yesterday.

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Speaker 3: What's going on at Apek, Well, you know, I say,

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Speaker 3: actually who cares?

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Speaker 16: But Cholgham is chaps holidaying on government money. Apek is

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Speaker 16: aging politicians expecting cocktails. So there'll be a lot of

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Speaker 16: clinking glasses.

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Speaker 3: He's lugs and will be glad he's there. Oh sorry,

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Speaker 3: Luxe and will be glad he's there. Well, he'll be glad.

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Speaker 16: Because he's got a one on one with the Chinese president.

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Speaker 16: That's a good thing for New Zealand. In terms of

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Speaker 16: our trade, he'll be no doubt speaking to Biden as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 16: but trade should be our focus. Whether anything comes out

654
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Speaker 16: of it, it'll be like your usual APEC meetings are

655
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Speaker 16: very weighty. Document will follow it, but nothing will come

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Speaker 16: of it.

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Speaker 3: Barry, thanks very much. Well rap the political week that

658
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Speaker 3: was with you later on about quarter past six. It's

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Speaker 3: very sober senior political correspondence even away from five, putting.

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Speaker 2: The tough questions to the newspakers the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 17: Last year there were eight hundred and ninety two thousand

662
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Speaker 17: visa applications, right, how many of those were skilled workers?

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Speaker 17: Turns out one zero point three eight percent from the

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Speaker 17: Order to General's offer. Senior Performance Auditor Lucy Morland is

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Speaker 17: with us.

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Speaker 9: What we're saying is the ONLYCD and other research organizations

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Speaker 9: have said that immigration systems pay a really important part

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Speaker 9: not only in processing visas but attracting the people that

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Speaker 9: a country needs. And we know New Zealand's in a

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Speaker 9: very competitive global market for skills. So the more that

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Speaker 9: the system is set up well to work smoothly those

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Speaker 9: applicants and the more it can help them make a

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Speaker 9: decision on whether or not to come here.

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Speaker 17: Certainly back Monday from six am, the Mike asking breakfast

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Speaker 17: with the Rain driver of the last news talk Zaid be.

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Speaker 3: Hey five away from five. There has been a fair

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Speaker 3: bit of commentary just in the last twenty four hours

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Speaker 3: at sort of like criticism I suppose of the Commus

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Speaker 3: Commission for having a crack taking this criminal legal action

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Speaker 3: against One New Zealand. Now I don't know if you've

681
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Speaker 3: caught up on this, but this is the you know,

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Speaker 3: the One New Zealand being formerly Vodafone, the cell phone

683
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Speaker 3: company they have they've partnered up with Elon Musks and

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Speaker 3: Elon musk And has satellites up in the sky and stuff,

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Speaker 3: and they've promised that there will be one hundred percent

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Speaker 3: cell phone coverage across the entire country from a certain date. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: the Commerce Commission is now taking them to court because

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Speaker 3: they say that's inaccurate, because One New Zealand cannot say

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Speaker 3: that because you need a direct line between you cell

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Speaker 3: phone and the satellite in the sky. So if you

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Speaker 3: are I don't know, under a tree, you will not

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Speaker 3: be all in a house. You will not be able

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Speaker 3: to get the one hundred percent cell phone coverage. And

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Speaker 3: it's people are saying that that this is being ridiculously

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Speaker 3: pan pedantic, because most of us understand that if you're

696
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Speaker 3: going to jump into ten feet of water and sit

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Speaker 3: under a rock, you're probably not going to have cell

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Speaker 3: phone coverage, right, So one hundred percent is one hundred

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Speaker 3: percent without you being a dickhead about it anyway. Paul

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Speaker 3: Spain's a tech commentator. He's going to give us his

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Speaker 3: take on that after six o'clock because I think I

702
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Speaker 3: think there may be a case that maybe the comments

703
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Speaker 3: commissions being a little bit over the top here with

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Speaker 3: being like you must be one hundred percent accurate, Heather,

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Speaker 3: you shock me. Assuming it's just ladies that should pull

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Speaker 3: over and look at that at this Chap's body, actually

707
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Speaker 3: fair enough. There are some blokes who should pull over,

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Speaker 3: definitely and have a look at that body. Heather. I

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Speaker 3: agree with you most of the time, but I'm not

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Speaker 3: so sure about the Hucker. I agree there should be

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Speaker 3: an accepted Teacunger in parliament, which there is. However, if

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Speaker 3: our nation is truly bicultural, then parliament should have elements

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Speaker 3: from both cultures. Just might two sents Michael, thank you

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Speaker 3: and I appreciate that. But then we have to then

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Speaker 3: then let's change it. Let's make the rules and then

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Speaker 3: we abide by those rules. But until those rules are changed,

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Speaker 3: you don't break the rules, right And in that case,

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Speaker 3: we have to decide when it's okay to do a hakker,

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Speaker 3: because you can't do a hakka just all the time,

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Speaker 3: right Otherwise the act part is going to get up

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Speaker 3: and do a hakker every single time we have a

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Speaker 3: tax debate, and that's going to get boring. And then

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Speaker 3: we also have to decide how close you can get

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Speaker 3: to the person that you're wedding. Do you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean? Because that was a bit intimidating, wasn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday's h.

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Speaker 1: The only drive show.

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Speaker 2: You can trust to ask the questions, get the answers

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Speaker 2: by the facts, and give the analysis. Heather du to

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Speaker 2: the ELM Drive with One New Zealand let's get connected

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Speaker 2: and you talk as.

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Speaker 1: They'd be.

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Speaker 3: Afternoon. So the fallout from yesterday's treaty principles. Debate in

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Speaker 3: parliament has gone global. This was Fox News just a

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Speaker 3: few minutes ago.

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Speaker 18: Instead of boring speeches, they prefer tribal screeches.

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Speaker 3: A session of the New Zealand Parliament, it came to

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Speaker 3: a screeching hale.

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Speaker 1: Earlier today, apologicisans broke.

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Speaker 19: Out into a traditional ceremony dance known as the hakka.

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Speaker 3: Sky News Australia has also called it a temper tantrum

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Speaker 3: in parliament. Peter Dunn as a former MPa now a

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Speaker 3: political commentator and is with us. Hey Peter, hi, Heather,

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Speaker 3: what was your take on what happened yesterday?

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Speaker 6: Well?

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Speaker 20: I was a bit surprised, not not so much by

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Speaker 20: the harker, but by the vehemence of it and the

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Speaker 20: way in which the whole drama unfolded. I thought it

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Speaker 20: was quite unbecoming and not something I'd seen before.

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Speaker 3: What should Jerry do about this?

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Speaker 20: I Thoty handled it quite well on the circumstances actually,

752
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Speaker 20: by adjourning the house, clearing the gallery and moving on.

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Speaker 20: I think that there needs to be some very clear

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Speaker 20: guidance given to all parties about how they behave in parliament.

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Speaker 20: It's not just a sort of a classroom or a

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Speaker 20: school hall. Parliament is the highest court in the land

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Speaker 20: and proper decorum and dignity should be a part of

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Speaker 20: its proceedings, and unfortunately that's now lacking, not just in

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Speaker 20: this incident, but I think there's a gradual wearing down

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Speaker 20: over the years where people tend to treat it a

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Speaker 20: bit more informally, don't sort of acknowledge its mystry and background,

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Speaker 20: and I think that leads to the sort of chaos

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Speaker 20: that we saw yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Isn't the problem here that whatever punishment Jerry actually has

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Speaker 3: to hand is not sufficient to stop this because actually

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Speaker 3: the political reward for this kind of theater is quite big.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: I think that's absolutely right, and I think that's as

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Speaker 20: I say, other parties have worked this out as well

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Speaker 20: over time, that they can portray Parliament's customs of tradition

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Speaker 20: as being fuddy duddy and out of date and therefore

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Speaker 20: not something that applied to them. The problem is it

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Speaker 20: is it creates its own discipline, and when that discipline

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Speaker 20: breaks down, you see what happened yesterday as an example.

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Speaker 20: So I think there is that sense and for a

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Speaker 20: lot of people, they'll say, what the hell are all

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Speaker 20: the politicians on about good on the Mari Party and

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Speaker 20: good on others for stirring the pot. So there isn't

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Speaker 20: You're right, there is a sort of a the onlienated

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Speaker 20: and the divided will feel very positive about what goes on.

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Speaker 20: The traditionalists will feel more and more upset, right, and so.

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Speaker 3: You have the ongoing polarization of politics happening. Peter, though,

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Speaker 3: can you actually see this ending? Because if I look

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Speaker 3: at this, I look at the success of Trump, who

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Speaker 3: also offended kind of you know, norms and therefore got

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Speaker 3: himself elected by consistently offending norms. That's all the Marti

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Speaker 3: Party are doing here. They have no reason to stop.

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Speaker 3: They will continue to do this, and this will become ingrained,

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Speaker 3: won't it.

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Speaker 20: I think that's right, And they'll be appealing in the

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Speaker 20: first instance to their core voters to make sure that

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Speaker 20: they get back in about the same numbers, if not

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Speaker 20: greater numbers at the next lection than they've got now.

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Speaker 20: I thought it was a bit weird this morning when

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Speaker 20: Debi Norwa Packer was an ambusting David Seymour. He's only

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Speaker 20: got eight percent of the vote. That's considerably more than

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Speaker 20: the Party Mari got at the last divention. But I

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Speaker 20: think that that is the risk now, is we ended

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Speaker 20: up in a period where the extremes start to become

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Speaker 20: more dominant and the mainstream starts to weaken, and then

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Speaker 20: when you look to future government formation, you've got coalitions

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Speaker 20: that maybe two or three parties of roughly equal size,

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Speaker 20: and no one actually able to exert a sort of

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Speaker 20: a controlling influence over it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're about right. Hey, by the way,

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Speaker 3: just you reck your brand. Tell me the last time

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Speaker 3: that you remember the public gallery being cleared.

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Speaker 20: I have seen it cleared in the past, but not

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Speaker 20: on this level of protest. It would be back in

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Speaker 20: the I think probably the late eighties the early nineties,

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Speaker 20: and it was more more because I remember one incident

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Speaker 20: where a group of people try to stunt where they

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Speaker 20: tried to come down into the chamber sort of over

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Speaker 20: the parapet at various points, just to see if they could,

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Speaker 20: and they sort of one from one corner, one from

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Speaker 20: the other, and because no one quite knew what was

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Speaker 20: going on, it was clear at that point until they

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Speaker 20: were removed, clearly this was just a prank gone wrong.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, Hey, Peter, thanks very much. As always, Peter Dunn,

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Speaker 3: political commentator, former.

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Speaker 1: MP Heather duper c l jof the Department of.

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Speaker 3: Conservation is considering charging us for the privilege of visiting

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Speaker 3: iconic places around the country, for example Cathedral, Cove, Tonga,

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Speaker 3: Eddle Crossing, Milford Track and so on. Kiwis would pay

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Speaker 3: twenty bucks and foreigners would pay thirty bucks. Ruth Isaac

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Speaker 3: is one of the deputy director generals at Dock. Hey, Ruth,

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Speaker 3: Hi there, Ruth. Practically, how would you impose this charge? Right,

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Speaker 3: let's turning up to the tongeted or crossing. How are

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Speaker 3: you going to charge me before I hit the thing?

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Speaker 5: So it's a really good question, and how charges might

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Speaker 5: be imposed depends on the place and also decisions about

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Speaker 5: what kinds of charges ministers want. What we've looked at

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Speaker 5: overseas is sometimes these things are done as charges per

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Speaker 5: vehicle in car parks and can be collected that way,

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Speaker 5: including by people self serving on a at a station.

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Speaker 5: The other things that happen already we already charge per

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Speaker 5: person for concessionaires, and most people, for example at the

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Speaker 5: Tongeededo crossing, are delivered by a driver and a shuttle

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Speaker 5: to that place, So we would be able to potentially

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Speaker 5: add charges that way. In some other places, you know,

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Speaker 5: people arrived by ferry, those charges could be added that way. Essentially,

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Speaker 5: the government hasn't made any decisions about exactly what the

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Speaker 5: right method is. We have been looking at how that's

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Speaker 5: done overseas, and we'd be rare, really keen to make

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Speaker 5: sure that whatever we do, it's low cost, it's efficient,

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Speaker 5: we don't need to employ a lot of people to

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Speaker 5: ensure compliance and whatnot.

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Speaker 3: But then how would you tell the difference between a

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Speaker 3: kill wei and a foreigner turning up to the tool

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Speaker 3: that or let's say, if you were if you were

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Speaker 3: charging it, if it was something that was prepaid for

853
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Speaker 3: the vehicle, how would you know that this one is

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Speaker 3: a foreigner that needs to pay thirty bucks as opposed

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Speaker 3: to twenty.

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Speaker 5: So that's a good question and we've been thinking about that.

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Speaker 5: But we already have differential pricing for our great walks

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Speaker 5: in some of our huts, internationals and others, and we

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Speaker 5: have a system that enables us to check passports.

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Speaker 11: And do that.

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Speaker 5: So we would be looking at how we could include

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Speaker 5: those sorts of mechanisms if we were going to have

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Speaker 5: differential pricing, or if there was going to be different charges,

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Speaker 5: that is for internationals or domestic.

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Speaker 3: So Ruth, this is a no brainer. Everybody does it

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Speaker 3: around the world. It's long overdue. Why on earth do

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Speaker 3: you guys need to consult on it? Why don't you

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Speaker 3: just do it? I mean, it's not unusual for the

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Speaker 3: government to up charges those up charges the other day

870
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Speaker 3: on the international visially, so why don't.

871
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Speaker 11: You just do it?

872
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 5: So okay, good question this one. We actually need to

873
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Speaker 5: change the law to make it clear that we can

874
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Speaker 5: introduce you so much.

875
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Speaker 3: You don't need to ask permission to change the law.

876
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 5: To change it. Well, it's standard orthodox practice for the

877
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 5: government to put its proposals to the public, see what

878
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 5: the publics think, and then to take forward changes to legislation.

879
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 5: That doesn't always happen, but that would be pretty common

880
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 5: practice for changing the legislation. And on this conversation, ministers

881
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 5: are really keen to hear what New Zealanders think because

882
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 5: in some areas the sort of the right to access

883
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 5: public conservation land has been enshrined in that law for

884
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Speaker 5: quite a long time, and there are some people who

885
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 5: will have fairly strong views about changes to that, and

886
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 5: they want to hear from everyone about about those views.

887
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 3: All right, Ruth, thank you very much, appreciated Ruth, Isaac

888
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: and best of luck with it. Who is with the

889
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 3: Department of Conservation here the Since you were going to

890
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 3: talk to Ben Smith next, but we're going to push

891
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 3: Ben Smith back. We'll talk to him after half past

892
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 3: five because I need to get you across what's been

893
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 3: going on at TV and Z read the he coy

894
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 3: and stuff. You're kind of probably vaguely aware of it,

895
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: but I'll get you across it properly. A little update

896
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: on the Milo debarkle at Health New Zealand. Now, the

897
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 3: reason I'm telling you this is because you know, I

898
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 3: love I love what's going on at Health New Zealand

899
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 3: because I just cannot. It's almost like it's right up there.

900
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: It's right up there with Wellington City Council for just

901
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 3: stupid stuff that keeps on happening. It just as a

902
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,479
Speaker 3: gift that never stops giving. And so yesterday we found

903
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 3: out that some bosses were going to cut all the

904
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,439
Speaker 3: Milo and then Lester has been brought in at god

905
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 3: knows what pay rate he's at. It's enormous what he's

906
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 3: being paid. But Lister's having to deal with Milo issues

907
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: on that pay rate, and he had to then write

908
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 3: to everybody and say no, no, no, we're not going

909
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 3: to cut your milo. Well, apparently, the reason it would

910
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 3: appear that Lester decided to not cut the Milo in

911
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: the end was not necessarily out of the goodness of

912
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 3: his heart, but was because actually cutting the Milo might

913
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 3: have been more expensive than leaving the milo. This is

914
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 3: where things get weird. Okay, so apparently this is according

915
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 3: to the Doctor Union the Doctor's Resident Doctors Association. Provision

916
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: of hot drinks is actually enshrined in the collective contracts

917
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 3: as some of the workers there, So if the employer

918
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: decides to then not provide the hot drinks, they have

919
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: to pay an allowance. So these people can instead of

920
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 3: going to the cafeteria or like the tea and coffee

921
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 3: station to make a mila, they have to be able

922
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 3: to go across the road and by themselves a hot chocolates.

923
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: So the union reckons, they've done the calculations, and they

924
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: reckon for the nurses alone it would have cost two

925
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 3: point three million dollars in allowances. So then ad and

926
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 3: everybody else who's got a collective contract and suddenly is

927
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 3: cheaper just to keep the milo there than pay them out.

928
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, Health New Zealand winning sixteen past five, right,

929
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 3: nineteen past five. So I said, I was going to

930
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Speaker 3: talk to you about what's going on at TV and Z.

931
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Speaker 11: Oh.

932
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 3: By the way, yes, thank you Mike for pointing out

933
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Speaker 3: that the Department of Conservation person thought I had a

934
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: lot of good questions. I took that as a compliment.

935
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Speaker 3: I thought, well, if your job is to ask questions,

936
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 3: it's probably better that they're good. Isn't that than bad? Anyway?

937
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 3: So ACT is this is the ACTS party is making

938
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 3: absolute hay out of TV and z's coverage of the

939
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,280
Speaker 3: he coy and the Treaty Principles bill. Now you've probably

940
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 3: caught up on some of this by now, but I'll

941
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 3: give you. I'll give you a complete rundown of what's

942
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 3: been going on. So there was an interview on Breakfast

943
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: I feel like it was last week with Jenny May,

944
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 3: and ACT has shared the hell out of this interview

945
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 3: because as far as ACT is concerned, it shows Jenny

946
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 3: May and TV and Z and Breakfast has got bias

947
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 3: and that they they have just decided that what Actor

948
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 3: is doing is a bad thing and So what has

949
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 3: happened now is that from that week to this week,

950
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 3: TV and ZID and Breakfast clearly haven't learned a single

951
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: thing about about this, and they've just given act some

952
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 3: more ammo because what happened a couple of days ago

953
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: is that Breakfast had a reporter do a cross about

954
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 3: the he Coy. Now she was interviewing the organizer of

955
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 3: the Breakfast. Reporter was interviewing the organizer of the he coy,

956
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 3: Edu Kappakingi. And remember this is Breakfast who had David

957
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 3: Seymour in the studio and to his face said his

958
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: bill was divisive. Right, so here's the bad guy here,

959
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: according to Breakfast. But when they're covering the heky and

960
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 3: when they're interviewing the the hekoy organizer, Edu Kapakini, this

961
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 3: is how the reporter starts that interview. And I thought

962
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 3: I'd start us off first for the bit of a

963
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Speaker 3: hakka the cut hellmannai.

964
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Speaker 1: Waidan.

965
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 3: So Edu's not the bad guy, I think is what

966
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 3: you're supposed to take from that, and then she ends

967
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 3: her cross like this.

968
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 1: I'm proud of the Mary gotte Tefano spokes with them

969
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: for he Cooi.

970
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 3: Act is Berg Whoopsie from Breakfast by the way, because

971
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 3: ACT is sharing the hell out of it and they've

972
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 3: got a pretty good social media game, much like the

973
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: Maori parties. That they're going hard on it and they're

974
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 3: accusing TV instead of bias, and actually, maybe there is

975
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 3: something to talk about here, so let's talk about it

976
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: next five to twenty one.

977
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Speaker 2: The name you trust to get the answers you need

978
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 2: Heather duper c Allen Dry.

979
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: We're the one New Zealand. Let's get connected and news

980
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: talk as they'd be yew.

981
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 3: Ben Smith is going to be with us after half

982
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: past five. I'm a little bit worried because Ben is

983
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 3: in charge of the children. He's trying to look after them.

984
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: His wife has got to do some exercise, so you

985
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 3: know how it is if you've got children, you've got

986
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 3: to schedule that stuff. And so anyway, best of luck

987
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: to us, trying to keep him, trying to get his

988
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: attention while the children are there. But he will talk

989
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 3: to him about that and about the All Blacks, not

990
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 3: out the children obviously, about the all Black squad. In

991
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 3: about twelve minutes time, it's five twenty four. Listen, good

992
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: luck to TV and z eh good luck to TV

993
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 3: and Z trying to convince anyone that they are unbiased,

994
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 3: given what's just happened with them in the first in

995
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 3: the last week. So I just played you the clip

996
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: of the breakfast reporter singing with the organizer of the Hekoy,

997
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: which I think any right minded person would interpret as

998
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: an endorsement of the Hecoy, which I think should earn

999
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 3: her some serious trouble if TV and Z takes perceptions

1000
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 3: of bias seriously. But actually, what is much more serious

1001
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 3: for them is that the woman who was tipped to

1002
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 3: become the top news boss at TV and ZED has

1003
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 3: just been out to today for taking personal leave to

1004
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 3: go on the Hecoy. And the reason we know this

1005
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 3: is because she loves a social media post and she's

1006
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: put it up on her Instagram, so it just flaunted

1007
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: it for everyone to see. Now, obviously, people are entitled

1008
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: to private political views, even if they are newsbosses, but

1009
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 3: if you are a news boss or about to become

1010
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 3: the news boss, you should be smart enough to keep

1011
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 3: that private emphasis on private, especially if your organization is

1012
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: trying to pretend that it's unbiased, which is what TVNZ

1013
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: is trying to do. Very hard at the moment, in

1014
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 3: the face of paul of falling public trust in media.

1015
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 3: Just a few weeks ago, TVs itself published its editorial

1016
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 3: guidelines for journalists, and the point of that was to

1017
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 3: tell us that they take impartiality seriously and that they

1018
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: are impartial. Well, that's just been massively undermined by finding

1019
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 3: out that the woman who will be in charge of

1020
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 3: all of the journalists actually doesn't really like the current

1021
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: government at all. So good luck. I mean, you can

1022
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 3: corral those journalists into a neutral space all you like,

1023
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 3: But if the lady who is their boss has very

1024
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 3: strong views about the current government, so strong that she

1025
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 3: wants to go on a protest against them, I think

1026
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 3: you've got a problem with perception of bias. Now, the

1027
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: important thing here about TV and Z to understand is

1028
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 3: that it pretends it's impartial, right, That is the important

1029
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 3: thing here. Nobody would mind if the editor of the

1030
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 3: spinoff turned up at the he coy, because the spinoff

1031
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: wears its colors on its sleeve. We know what they

1032
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 3: are about, and they own it. They just are completely

1033
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 3: honest about it. TV and Z, though, was trying to

1034
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 3: convince us that they are neutral and the other important

1035
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 3: thing here also is that TV and Z is the

1036
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 3: publicly owned broadcaster on television right, so that also means

1037
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 3: there are standards that we expect from them that are

1038
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 3: different to what everybody else is subjected to. Now, TV

1039
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: and Z in order to convince us, because clearly they

1040
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 3: want us to believe that they are impartial. In order

1041
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 3: to convince us that they are impartial, and that they

1042
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 3: demand impartiality from the people who work within their newsroom

1043
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: and and the editorial team, they would have to a

1044
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: not give that woman the news job, and I doubt

1045
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 3: that's going to happen or be they would have to

1046
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: discipline that woman and discipline the reporter for what happened

1047
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: on television and then make that public. Do you think

1048
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 3: that's going to happen? No, me neither. So good luck

1049
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 3: to TV and Z trying to convince us from here

1050
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: on in that they are impartial.

1051
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: Forgever do for Sea Ellen.

1052
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 3: Hey, there's an exclusive. I've been banging on about the

1053
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 3: climate this week because of the Cop twenty nine thing

1054
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 3: that's happening. There is an exclusive story in the Herald,

1055
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 3: the Sydney Morning Herald today New South Wales. The state

1056
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 3: is not going to meet any of its Paris Agreement

1057
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 3: climate targets. It's not going to reduce the emission sufficiently

1058
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 3: by twenty thirty, by twenty thirty five, and by twenty fifty. Now,

1059
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 3: I'm telling you this because neither is New Zealand. We're

1060
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 3: just not saying it out loud. Nobody is. It's impossible.

1061
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 3: The Paris Agreement is so ambitious it's impossible to meet

1062
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 3: the targets that. Their problem in New South Wales is

1063
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 3: that people want more electricity. There is a rise in

1064
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 3: energy demand and they haven't built enough renewables, and they

1065
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 3: also need to build stuff like con struck roads and

1066
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 3: stuff like that that has lots of emissions. Now, try

1067
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,319
Speaker 3: going out to the punters in New South Wales and saying, look, yeah,

1068
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: I need you. I'm going to have to turn off

1069
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 3: the electricity for a bit. And also we're we're gonna

1070
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 3: have to stop building stuff because of the climate. Yeah,

1071
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 3: good luck, it's not gonna happen, right, So get real.

1072
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just warning you. You just remember this.

1073
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 3: Get real. We're not going to meet our Paris Agreement

1074
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 3: targets in New Zealand as well, and we're gonna have

1075
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 3: to abandon them. Headline's next.

1076
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 2: On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in

1077
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: your car on your drive home.

1078
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Speaker 1: Here the duper c.

1079
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 2: Allen drive with One New Zealand. Let's get connected and

1080
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 2: you talk as they'd be.

1081
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Speaker 21: What can be set tarted a try to swimmer gains,

1082
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Speaker 21: put me down, colonies, big veg em.

1083
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Speaker 3: Just remind of Paul Spain. Tech analyst is going to

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00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 3: be with us after on the Commerce Commission taking on

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Speaker 3: One New Zealand and or rather taking them to court

1086
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 3: over misleading advertising. The sports title is standing by to

1087
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 3: talk about the weekend sport right now, twenty four away

1088
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 3: from Sex. The All Blacks have made five changes ahead

1089
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 3: of Sunday morning's test against front Most notably, we've got

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00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 3: Bowden barrett In replacing Damien Mackenzie. Camroy guards the number

1091
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,479
Speaker 3: nine Jersey and Sevy Reese also replaces Mark Talier who's

1092
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Speaker 3: got an injury I think in his hand or something

1093
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 3: like that. Ben Smith is a former All Black fullback.

1094
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 3: Hey Ben, Yeah, yeah, good, thank you? What do you reckon?

1095
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 3: Are you liking the lineup as you see it?

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00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 11: Yeah?

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00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 22: Now, I think obviously they've made a few changes.

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00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought it was.

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00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 22: I thought Damien played really well last week. But to

1100
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Speaker 22: her body Beck, I suppose his experience and what he brings, Yeah,

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00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 22: they'll bring him back in.

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00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 3: Well, are you not totally convinced by that?

1103
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 22: I think, like I think probably Damien had one of

1104
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 22: his better games last weekend and I thought that was

1105
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 22: pretty polished against Island in the second half.

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00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 6: But I understand. I see obviously Body's got a lot

1107
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 6: of experience and.

1108
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 22: And Damien's pretty good off the bench, adds a bit

1109
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 22: of impact, and yeah, i'd say that it'll be a

1110
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 22: tough game that they want to finish well.

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00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 6: The French will, Yeah, they'll.

1112
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 22: I suppose I had a bit of a World Cup

1113
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 22: that they underperformed that they would have liked to probably fishe.

1114
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say it'll be a big game.

1115
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1116
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 3: What do you make of this French player who's packed

1117
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 3: us sad because he wasn't picked and is now refusing

1118
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 3: to be on the bench.

1119
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, I heard that today.

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Speaker 22: I don't know all the details, to be fair, but

1121
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 22: there must be something going on there that. Yeah, this

1122
00:51:52,120 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 22: seems weird to me obviously, Yeah, something else that play something. Yeah,

1123
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 22: obviously had a bit of a bad day but listen,

1124
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 22: tell me are we are?

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Speaker 3: I'm third week in row that Ethan Degrud hasn't been selected.

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Speaker 3: First of all, it was because he wasn't meeting internal standards,

1127
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 3: and now it's all starting to get a bit weird.

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Speaker 3: You was intrigued by this as we are.

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00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 22: Yeah, I know Ethan degree and he works bloody hard

1130
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 22: and he'll fight his way back into getting an opportunity.

1131
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 3: Have you asked him? Did you ask him? What did

1132
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 3: you do?

1133
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 6: I know, I don't know to be fair, but I

1134
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 6: do know he'll work really hard. And I also.

1135
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 22: Gods that have been given an opportunity have played really well,

1136
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 22: so I'm sure yeah, will get plenty more chances in

1137
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 22: the future. But at the moment, he just yeah, I

1138
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 22: said the messages coming out that mister by his time,

1139
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 22: and yeah, he will get opportunities going forward.

1140
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 3: And are you At the start it was a bit

1141
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 3: shaky for Razor Ray, but he started to firm it up.

1142
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 3: Are you convinced by him?

1143
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1144
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 22: I think he's He's obviously done really well in this

1145
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 22: India tour, Doves. I thought the all blacks against Olm

1146
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 22: were pretty clinical in the second half, and yeah, I

1147
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 22: really enjoyed watching guys like Wallace and TD get an opportunity.

1148
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 22: So yeah, that's been pretenty promising and then obviously people

1149
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 22: like Kenigard.

1150
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 6: I've heard him down the background.

1151
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 18: The children are coming for you.

1152
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 6: Are they.

1153
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 11: Leave it there?

1154
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 3: Man, We'll let you get back to dad Duties. I

1155
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 3: appreciate your time, mate, I'll I'm coming with you. Ben,

1156
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 3: thank you and beast of like a relivery. Yet it

1157
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 3: has been Smith formal Black. What did I tell you?

1158
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 3: Dad Duties? Kids? Major Problem twenty away from six.

1159
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 2: Look Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southebeast international realty,

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Speaker 23: And never full time for the first time that you're

1162
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 23: Blacks Blues rugbyle Pop Formatch Roun twenty nine, All Black thirteen.

1163
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 6: It's been a dream since I was a kid.

1164
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 23: Is all of one to do was play for this

1165
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 23: team and been very fortunate to be able to do

1166
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 23: that for almost half my life. But it does have

1167
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 23: to continued at some stage, and this does feel like

1168
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Speaker 23: the right time for that.

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Speaker 14: I'm disappointed that you know a player like Discult that

1170
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 14: he couldn't be honest with his coaching Turtle and said look,

1171
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 14: I don't want to play because I'm worried a bit

1172
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 14: here injury on the.

1173
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Speaker 3: Huddle of that this evening Jim Kay sports journalist, and also,

1174
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 3: oh gosh, I've got the children around Paul Ellison news talks,

1175
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 3: he'd be rugby commentator, har Lass.

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Speaker 8: My radio at best.

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00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 3: Have both of you made sure that the children are

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Speaker 3: looked after by somebody else?

1179
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Speaker 11: Right now?

1180
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Speaker 14: You might the adults, So I think I'm okay. It's

1181
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 14: more the dog barking at people coming to the door.

1182
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Speaker 3: You've already got asked for, okay, which is children, and

1183
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 3: the three of us will make enough children. Paul, I

1184
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 3: want to start with you on body Barrett. I mean,

1185
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Speaker 3: Ben Smith wasn't at all convinced that this was the

1186
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 3: right call. What do you reckon?

1187
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Speaker 8: I think it is the right call.

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00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 24: I think Damien had an outstanding game last week, and

1189
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 24: he's been pretty good this year. But just the experience

1190
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Speaker 24: and the consistency that Boden brings into that number ten position,

1191
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 24: I'm sure he would have started there last week if

1192
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 24: he had a being injury free. That's taking nothing away

1193
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 24: from Damien, who I think has had a pretty good

1194
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Speaker 24: year overall. He hasn't been as consistent as he would

1195
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Speaker 24: have liked at times, but he's got better and better

1196
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Speaker 24: in the fact that he's on the bench. I think

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Speaker 24: he's played in every game this year in some capacity,

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Speaker 24: so he's been rewarded. But I think he'll still have

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Speaker 24: an opportunity to get on to the field and make

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Speaker 24: an impact.

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Speaker 1: But I think it is the right call.

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Speaker 8: Kim, I totally agree.

1203
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Speaker 14: I'm pretty comfortable having a two time Worldplayer of the

1204
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,879
Speaker 14: Year start at first five. And just like Paul said,

1205
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 14: he would have been there last week. Damien has been

1206
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 14: fantastic off the bench and the opportunities there for the

1207
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 14: All Blacks, and like the whole team, I feel pretty

1208
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 14: good about that selection.

1209
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 8: I think it's a good looking side and.

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Speaker 14: I feel reasonably confident, not over confident because it's France,

1211
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 14: but reasonably confident.

1212
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Speaker 8: More so than the tav This is a second week

1213
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Speaker 8: in a row.

1214
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Speaker 24: I think in the world history of All Black rugby

1215
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 24: that we're started as the outsiders on the tab.

1216
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 14: So under money on, poor gets your money on.

1217
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 25: You know you've got lots of it out there stashed away.

1218
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, agree with Jim. If you're if you're ever

1219
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 3: going to place a bet he plays a bet on

1220
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 3: the All Blacks this week because they're playing really well,

1221
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 3: aren't they, Paul. I mean all of the jitters around

1222
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 3: Razors seem to have evaporated.

1223
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 24: Yeah, it's been a long time since we've gone through

1224
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 24: a Northern Hemisphere tour winning every match. We haven't got

1225
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 24: there yet, but we've got to a good start. The

1226
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 24: former is starting to improve the finishing matches in that

1227
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 24: last twenty minutes, which was their Achilles heel in South Africa,

1228
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 24: and the fact that they are filling in gaps now

1229
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 24: which have been left by players likes white Lock and

1230
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 24: Retallic and Aaron Smith and Richie Moway. They're starting to

1231
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 24: fill those gaps nicely, and I think Scott Robertson can

1232
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 24: be quietly comfortable and confident of where he's got to,

1233
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 24: not necessarily for this match on Saturday morning or Sunday morning,

1234
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 24: but the fact that we are heading in the right direction.

1235
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 24: It'll be an absolutely mighty match and I'm really.

1236
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 8: Looking forward to it.

1237
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 24: It's hard one to predict, but the All Blacks are

1238
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 24: certainly traveling with some tail ones behind them at the moment,

1239
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 24: and I think they should have some confidence.

1240
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, what is up Gym, by the way, with

1241
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 3: the French packing is sad and not letting it and

1242
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 3: not wearing the alternate alternate strip.

1243
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 11: Oh that, but I thought you're talking about the guy

1244
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 11: Ben't that guy?

1245
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 8: Well, he's just a baby.

1246
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 14: But clearly, as Smith said, there's something else going on there,

1247
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 14: and he's used that as the vehicle for it. It's

1248
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 14: not unusual for the All Blacks to wear a different

1249
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 14: color jersey where they play away. It used to be

1250
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 14: that the home team changed the strip, and now we

1251
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 14: of course have these in all sport. You have the

1252
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 14: away strip, don't you. So it's not unusual.

1253
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 3: But what is unusual, hug Gym apparently is that the

1254
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 3: French are very happy to do this in the Six

1255
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 3: Nations right. They will when they're hosting another squad and

1256
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 3: I'm assuming it must be the Scots when they're hosting

1257
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 3: another squad in similar colors, they will take off their

1258
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 3: jersey and put a lighter jersey on, but not when

1259
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 3: the All Blacks come hither.

1260
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 14: There's been a lot of coaches who have thought if

1261
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 14: you don't use the phrase All Blacks, it has an impact,

1262
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 14: and clearly maybe the French think that if you don't

1263
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 14: play a team wearing black, it has an impact. Who

1264
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 14: knows it's not the awful gray of two thousand and seven.

1265
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 8: You know, I quite like it. I quite like the

1266
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 8: white jersey.

1267
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 11: It's going to have the poppy on it.

1268
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 8: It's going to be good.

1269
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 14: And as every player would tell you, it's not the jersey,

1270
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 14: it's the president inside it. So it's up to the

1271
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 14: All Blacks to make sure that the jersey is completely

1272
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 14: The color of the jersey is completely irrelevant.

1273
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 3: Too, right, well said, Hey, listen, we need to talk

1274
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 3: about Tim Salvey, one of the greats. We'll do it

1275
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 3: next quarter.

1276
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 2: Two sports huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty elevate

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Speaker 3: Right, we're back at the sports hutle Paul Allison, Jim Kays, Paul,

1279
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Speaker 3: We're going to miss him. Salvey isn't aren't well. I mean,

1280
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 3: he's one of the greats.

1281
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 8: He has been the.

1282
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 24: Glue for the last what eighteen years in the New

1283
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 24: Zealand team in some capacity, has been playing Test cricket

1284
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 24: since two thousand and eight. And I had to look

1285
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 24: at one of his stats here that which I think

1286
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 24: really sums up how important he has been during that

1287
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 24: period of time. New Zealand's only won seventy eight Test

1288
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 24: matches in their entire history, which goes right back to

1289
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 24: nineteen thirty. He's been around and he's been forty six

1290
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 24: of them.

1291
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 8: He's won forty six Test matches.

1292
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 24: No other New Zealander has ever had that many Test successes.

1293
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 24: And we go back to the eighties when Richard Hadley

1294
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 24: was so dominant and he was almost single handedly responsible

1295
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 24: for a lot of Tests wins. Then since then, obviously

1296
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,959
Speaker 24: you've had players likes of Kain Williamson and Trent Bolt

1297
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 24: come into it, but he has just been the glue.

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Speaker 24: He's been there day in day out and in all

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Speaker 24: forms of the game. But yeah, we'll miss him and

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Speaker 24: we'll look back on his career and we will say,

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Speaker 24: definitely he was one of the great New Zealand cricketers.

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Speaker 3: Totally. Jim listened to this, Okay, No New Zealand player

1303
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 3: has won more Tests in their career. The only player

1304
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Speaker 3: in the world to claim more than three hundred Test wickets,

1305
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Speaker 3: just one of four players to play one hundred plus

1306
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Speaker 3: internationals in all three formats. He has taken three hundred

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Speaker 3: and eighty five wickets. He's second only to Sir Richard

1308
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 3: Hadley and his total of seven hundred and seventy international

1309
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Speaker 3: wickets is the tenth best of all time.

1310
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Speaker 8: Good, it's amazing, very very good.

1311
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Speaker 14: And he's the leading international wicket taker in New Zealand

1312
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Speaker 14: across all formats of the game.

1313
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 8: So look, he sits.

1314
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 14: Comfortably at the table with Richard Hadley and Daniel Vittori.

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Speaker 14: A very good fielder as well, and I love the

1316
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 14: fact that he was a bit of a cow corner

1317
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 14: slogger as a batsman.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, great cricketer. I thought Paul summed him up the glue.

1319
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Speaker 14: He's been so so important to that team, particularly in

1320
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Speaker 14: combination with Trent Bolton. The two of them were a

1321
01:00:55,640 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 14: fantastic bowling partnership. And yeah, he will be missed, but

1322
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 14: you know, there are some fantastic guys coming through.

1323
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Speaker 8: Now, so you know, sport is all about refreshing.

1324
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Speaker 14: But he has had a wonderful career for eighteen years

1325
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Speaker 14: and I take the head.

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Speaker 8: Off to him. He was also a very good rugby player.

1327
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 8: Was he very good rugby player?

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Speaker 14: Played Auckland h Grade rugby yep and then yep, So

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Speaker 14: a bit of an all round it well, their cricket

1330
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Speaker 14: took over, didn't it.

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Speaker 12: Well.

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Speaker 24: Yeah, and in ninety six Test sixers as well, he

1333
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Speaker 24: said out of the ground.

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Speaker 8: It's not bad either, that's pretty good. He's just splitting

1335
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Speaker 8: facts right.

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Speaker 3: Now, Gym listener, I hear you're feisty about the fact

1337
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Speaker 3: that the Blues have been holding all the top level

1338
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Speaker 3: first fives.

1339
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Speaker 14: I think it's hilarious here, it's absolutely hilarious. And this

1340
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Speaker 14: hasn't come from the Crusaders, but Richard Nola in the

1341
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 14: christ Express has written a story questioning why the Blues

1342
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Speaker 14: are allowed to hold on to the first five.

1343
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Speaker 8: And it's Bowe and Barrack, Stephen Pirafetta and Harry Plum.

1344
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Speaker 14: Harry who's played about two minutes of Test rugby on

1345
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 14: the wing, pera Fetus played a little bit more on

1346
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 14: bone and perhaps obviously play.

1347
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: I did a little bit of homework.

1348
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Speaker 14: Because I knew that there was a time like the

1349
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 14: Crusaders had been the masters at holding players. They had

1350
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 14: four international locks at one stage in twenty fourteen. Here

1351
01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 14: that they had a guy called Tyler Blindell, Colin Slade,

1352
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 14: Tom Taylor, all internationals, and some falla called Carter who

1353
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 14: was pretty Handy as well at Perst five.

1354
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Speaker 25: And I don't remember them complaining, and I don't remember

1355
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 25: the christ Press newspaper saying that there should have been

1356
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 25: a change in the system of some of those should

1357
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 25: have been shipped up to the Blues or down to

1358
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 25: the Highlanders or somewhere else, you know, I mean Paul's

1359
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 25: Highlanders team would love to have.

1360
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Speaker 8: A couple of Blues.

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Speaker 24: Let Boden, let Bowden play ten, Let play fifteen, Let

1362
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 24: Plumber play twelve. Now you have them all up there,

1363
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 24: you'll have them up there, we'll take on the Blues

1364
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Speaker 24: when they come down there.

1365
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Speaker 10: That's fine.

1366
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 8: We're down here.

1367
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Speaker 3: I feel like from that tone though, that was a

1368
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 3: kind of there was some spite in that there, Paul.

1369
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 24: It was there a look, these guys can all play

1370
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 24: in different positions, and I don't have a problem with that.

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01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:05,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Jim's right.

1372
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Speaker 24: We've had sometimes during the years where there's been fourteen

1373
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 24: all Blacks and the Crusader starting fifteen, for instance, and

1374
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 24: you know, you put them at fifteen, put them at twelve,

1375
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 24: put them at ten. I don't have a problem with that.

1376
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 24: I mean, these guys aren't seasoned internationals. Boden Barretts, but

1377
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 24: the other ones are on the fringe. So yeah, that's fine.

1378
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 24: I've got no complaints down on the Deep South.

1379
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 25: No, And it's okay.

1380
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 21: Hither.

1381
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 14: It's okay because the way things are going with injury

1382
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 14: replacements and the All Blacks, all of the Crusaders are

1383
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 14: going to be picked anyway, so they're going to have

1384
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 14: a team of internationals because you have to be from

1385
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 14: the Crusaders to get into the.

1386
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 8: All Blacks and jury replacement. So it's all good.

1387
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 21: It's all good.

1388
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 11: It's all Red and Blaze.

1389
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 6: Don't worry about it.

1390
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,440
Speaker 3: Guys are feeling some deep feels about this at the moment. Hey,

1391
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 3: I really appreciate it. Enjoy the game this weekend and

1392
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 3: everything else that's happening on the cricket front as well.

1393
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 3: It's Paul Allison and Jim kudled US Sports huddle away from.

1394
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 2: Six Red or Blue, Trump or Harris who will win

1395
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 2: the battleground states? The latest on the us L. It's

1396
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy, Alan Drive with one New Zealand let's get

1397
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 2: connected these talks.

1398
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 1: It'd be.

1399
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 3: Hither. There's actually no need for the All Blacks to

1400
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 3: go into a white stripe strip because we have actually

1401
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 3: got color TV. Mozzy. That's a fantastic point that you make. Actually,

1402
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 3: you can tell the difference, and surely when they're standing there,

1403
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 3: they can tell the difference between a blue player and

1404
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 3: a black player genotomy. Anyway, listen, this is freaky. If

1405
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 3: you have a fear of roller coasters, this is not

1406
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 3: going to help you. The guys at work safe, the

1407
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 3: health and safety guys have had to go to the

1408
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 3: christ Church amp show today and shut down the roller

1409
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 3: coaster there because bolts were falling out of the roller coaster,

1410
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,240
Speaker 3: like call it the cartoon coaster. So I'm feeling like

1411
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 3: this is one specifically for the kids. So don't worry

1412
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 3: if you're an adult, because you weren't going to be

1413
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 3: intro It wasn't you. That was gonna be whoo. It's

1414
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 3: just gonna be the children, you know, and the light.

1415
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 3: So probably okay. But yeah, one parent said that they

1416
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 3: were they were standing there watching the bolts fall out.

1417
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 3: These bolts hold the arms for the roller coaster track.

1418
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 3: One fell of completely during the time I watched, and

1419
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 3: there were multiple loose bolts on the other support arms.

1420
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 3: And then there are pictures on the Facebook page showing

1421
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 3: the bolts just coming out. So yeah, next time you

1422
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 3: go to the AMP show and climb on the coaster,

1423
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 3: have a look at what's going on the bolts. That

1424
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 3: freaks me out so badly. Did you know? I didn't

1425
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 3: know this? Peas are amazingly good for you.

1426
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 11: Now.

1427
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 3: I'm surprised by this because a p feels to me

1428
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 3: like an incidental vegetable. Like I know, the broccoli is

1429
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 3: good for you because it's like a broom for your bowels,

1430
01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 3: you know how they say that, And the Kiwi fruge

1431
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 3: is good for you because that'll fight your COVID and

1432
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 3: it'll be all the vitamin C that you need if

1433
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 3: you take one of those days. You know, Like there

1434
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 3: are like superstar vegetables and then there are peas. But

1435
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 3: these things are amazing. They're like little green health pills.

1436
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 3: They have vitamin A, vitamin B, a whole bunch of

1437
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 3: vitamin BS, vitamin C, vitamin E, and vitamin K which

1438
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 3: is actually really hard to get into your diet because

1439
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 3: apparently you can't find it all over the shop. And

1440
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 3: you need it for bone health and you need it

1441
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 3: for blood clotting, and if you eat just four tablespoons

1442
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 3: of peas, a day, which is actually not that much.

1443
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 3: You get half the recommended and take a Vitamin K

1444
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 3: per day. But that's not all that you're gonna get

1445
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 3: from your peas. They also have fiber, and enough fiber

1446
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 3: to basically, if you have one hundred gram serving of peas,

1447
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 3: that's about a sixth that you need in your whole day.

1448
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 3: They are higher in protein than most other green vegetables,

1449
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 3: and it's a complete protein, which means you're gonna get

1450
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 3: all the amino acids that you need. You just eed

1451
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 3: that peas or that's your amino acid, sorted loads of iron,

1452
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 3: which a lot of ladies don't have enough of. There's

1453
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 3: a thing in them called amylos yep. Darcy standing outside

1454
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 3: the window showing me his muscles because I think he's

1455
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 3: been eating peas. There's in fact, I'm not even finished

1456
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 3: with the list of good pea stuff, right, so I'm

1457
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 3: gonna carry this like I'm not even halfway through. Are

1458
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 3: you convinced yet, weight I'm gonna tell you some more shortly.

1459
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 3: Next up, let's talk about the com common one New

1460
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 3: Zealand news dog zbis.

1461
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 2: It meets inside the business hour. We'd header duplicy Ellen

1462
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: and my HR on News.

1463
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: Dogs b even in.

1464
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 3: Coming up in the next hour, Peter Lewis on how

1465
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 3: China feels about Trump's new foreign affairs Guy Barisopa will

1466
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 3: wrap the political week that was, and we're going to

1467
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 3: go to the UK as well at seven past six. Now,

1468
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 3: there is some criticism of the Commerce Commission for the

1469
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 3: legal action it's taking against One New Zealand. The ComCom

1470
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 3: has decided to press charges against One New Zealand because

1471
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 3: One New Zealand has claimed that once it hooks up

1472
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 3: with SpaceX, it will provide one hundred percent mobile coverage

1473
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 3: launching twenty twenty four. Now, apparently that is misleading because

1474
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 3: it won't be one hundred percent because you will not

1475
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 3: possibly be able to get coverage when you're inside a building,

1476
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 3: inside a car, or underneath tree coverage, which feels some say,

1477
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 3: maybe a little pedantic. Paul Spain is a tech commentator

1478
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 3: and Guerrilla Tech CEO and with US. Now, Hey, Paul, hey,

1479
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 3: you Heather. Is that a bit pedantic from the ComCom.

1480
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 23: Well, it it does seem a bit that way to me.

1481
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 23: I mean, I think if there are so many things

1482
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 23: that you could pull companies up on and look, I'm

1483
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 23: a long term, one end zed customer, and I, you know,

1484
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,479
Speaker 23: and I do some other business with them, So maybe

1485
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 23: I'm a little bit biased, but you know, it just

1486
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 23: it seems a little bit over the top to me.

1487
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 23: You know, you could you could look at every electric

1488
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 23: vehicle that's sold in the country that has a range

1489
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 23: on it. You know, none of them can actually ever

1490
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 23: ever meet, you know, meet that range, and there's technical

1491
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 23: reasons behind it. They could go after Tesla, who have

1492
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 23: been selling their full self drive cars and they originally

1493
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 23: promised that they would deliver that capability to customers by

1494
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 23: the end of twenty nineteen. We're in twenty twenty four.

1495
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 23: It still hasn't been delivered. I haven't heard the Commis

1496
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 23: Commission go after that one. So yeah, I don't know

1497
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 23: why they've why they've chosen in this case.

1498
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 6: It does sleep a bit over the top.

1499
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 3: Every really doesn't. Then what do you make of the

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Speaker 3: fact that the COMMUS Commission has received eight complaints about

1501
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 3: this advertising, of which at least came from rival Spark

1502
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 3: in two degrees? That doesn't seem like a lot to

1503
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 3: go on. It's it's it's not a lot to go on.

1504
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 23: I mean, I would tend to think if you were

1505
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 23: a customer that had been hard done by this, and

1506
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 23: you had decided to move your entire business or your

1507
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 23: family onto one en Zed and that they couldn't deliver,

1508
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 23: I'd be I'd be pretty confident that if you got

1509
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 23: got in touch with one in Zed and say, hey,

1510
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Speaker 23: you know, this isn't what we're expecting, that they would

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Speaker 23: they would probably make things right. So I'm a little

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01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 23: unsure on this one.

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Speaker 6: I could to say.

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Speaker 3: Now, there has also been a warning to One New

1515
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 3: Zealand that's coming from people who understand technology that getting

1516
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,519
Speaker 3: into bed with Elon Musk is maybe a little bit

1517
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 3: of a risky thing because he says he's going to

1518
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 3: do something at the start of the year, and it's

1519
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 3: not going to happen at the start of the year.

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Speaker 23: What do you think, well, that that comes back to

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01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 23: my Tesla example. I think I think we've seen plenty

1522
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 23: of examples where where where Musk will will lay out

1523
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 23: a timeline and they're they're very, very hard to achieve.

1524
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 23: That said, when you look at some of the things

1525
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 23: that that his companies have achieved, they're they're often you know,

1526
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 23: well ahead of anybody else in the market in terms

1527
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 23: of what they achieve and when. But yeah, not not

1528
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 23: necessarily on track with the timelines and sometimes out by

1529
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 23: five years, like the full self driving capability and counting.

1530
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, fair enough, Paul on the idea that just because

1531
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 3: I find this fascinating, right on the idea that once

1532
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 3: this all kicks in, you will be able to get

1533
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 3: tech coverage and look, it's going to be slow and

1534
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:41,640
Speaker 3: it's going to be a bit crappy, but you'll be

1535
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 3: able to get tech coverage absolutely everywhere in the country

1536
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 3: and you'll never be able to escape your phone. This

1537
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 3: is the future for us, right, We need to get

1538
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 3: used to this. It's going to be ubiquitous and you'll

1539
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 3: be contactable at all stages. Do you think that in

1540
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 3: the future, though, we will start to learn to turn

1541
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:58,759
Speaker 3: ourselves offline and actually have time.

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Speaker 23: Out one hundred percent? I mean, I think a lot

1543
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 23: of us are already trying to do that to varying

1544
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 23: degrees of success, right, And I think you know, I

1545
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 23: used to enjoy the you know, the long international flights

1546
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 23: up to North America and oh, this is the one

1547
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 23: time I get offline, or you know, going going going

1548
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,919
Speaker 23: out to a holiday destination where there was no coverage,

1549
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 23: but you know those things, those you know, situations have

1550
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 23: got less and less. Yes, there's a you know, there's

1551
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 23: a few airlines that don't have Wi Fi and their

1552
01:11:31,439 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 23: international flights and so on. Yeah, look, I think you know,

1553
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 23: there's there's some there's some disciplines that we have to

1554
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 23: we have to build in and the same way you know,

1555
01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 23: with with the way our youngsters use technology, we have

1556
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 23: to you know, we we set some guidelines and some

1557
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 23: frameworks around those things. So yeah, I think that there's

1558
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 23: very much, you know, something that'll probably you know, become

1559
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 23: more and more common for for people to to draw

1560
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 23: some lines around when they have their devices on and off.

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Speaker 3: God, I love it, Paul, Thank you very much. Paul

1562
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 3: Spain tech commentator and Gorilla Texeeo and I reckon we'll

1563
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 3: turn it. We'll start to learn our turn to turn

1564
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 3: our phones off and be unapologetic about it, just be like, well, sorry,

1565
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 3: I didn't I just wanted to have some time out

1566
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 3: for like five days, just completely out. Heather peas are

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01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:20,719
Speaker 3: my favorites. Heather as a sheep farmer who also grows

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01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 3: a few peas. For McCain's you keep pumping those peaces hither.

1569
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 3: My grandparents were very healthy, no cancer's, no dimension, no diabetes,

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01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 3: no health problems. They lived into their nineties. Granddad worked

1571
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:31,759
Speaker 3: almost every day of his life, and they grew fields

1572
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 3: of peas and we used to eat them out of

1573
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 3: the pod yum. I think that was their secret, probably was.

1574
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 3: Here's the rest of what goes on with the peas.

1575
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 3: So peas have a thing in them called amelos, which

1576
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 3: is I don't know how to pronounce it. That's my

1577
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 3: best crack at it. It's a component of starch that's

1578
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 3: found in grains and potatoes, and it actually helps you

1579
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 3: to manage your blood sugar levels, which is not really

1580
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 3: what happens with other carbohydrates, right, because they actually raised

1581
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 3: blood sugar. So you want to stick the peas in

1582
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 3: your God, if you've got a bit of a problem

1583
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 3: regulating your blood sugar levels, like if you've got station

1584
01:13:00,439 --> 01:13:02,639
Speaker 3: or diabetes or something like that. This is not medical

1585
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 3: advice because I'm not a doctor, but that's what I

1586
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 3: would be doing. They also can contain both insoluble fiber,

1587
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 3: which bulks up your poops and helps to keep you

1588
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,879
Speaker 3: regular and gets it all out of you, and soluble

1589
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,719
Speaker 3: fiber which slows you to digestion and helps to regulate

1590
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 3: your blood sugar levels, keeps you feeling full of for longer,

1591
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 3: so you're gonna lose weight. Ethan de Groot if weight.

1592
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 3: If he's having a problem with his weight, you might

1593
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 3: want to get on the peas because that's gonna help

1594
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 3: him with that. Get a whole bunch of out, but

1595
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 3: also make him feel full. High concentration of chomestral, a

1596
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 3: compound that mimics estrogen in the body for ladies. Once

1597
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 3: it's digested, this is very good for women bone density

1598
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 3: retention and also reduce risk of stomach cancer and also

1599
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:48,280
Speaker 3: good for the gut because heaps of prebiotics. So you

1600
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 3: don't need to go and buy your fancy kombucha or

1601
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 3: make your kombucher at home with that weird little scobi

1602
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,479
Speaker 3: thing that you've been slaving over trying to grow.

1603
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:55,640
Speaker 11: You.

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01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 3: Just eat peas. Just go down to the go, get

1605
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 3: your frozen bag of pees, eat them daily portion that

1606
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 3: you need five tablespoons. How easy is that? Fourteen plus six.

1607
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Speaker 2: Analysis from the experts bringing you everything you need to

1608
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 2: know on the US election. It's The Business Hour with

1609
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 2: Heather Duplicy Allen and my Hr Ehr solution for busy

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01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:17,679
Speaker 2: SMEs used talks.

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Speaker 1: They'd be.

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01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 3: Heather, I love the pea chat. I eat peas from

1613
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,560
Speaker 3: the pod by the kilo at Christmas helps having a

1614
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 3: cropping brother who grows hectares of them, doesn't it? But

1615
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 3: you know what I was thinking, Thank god for the

1616
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 3: modern age, because who would like? Who wants to shell

1617
01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 3: all those peas? Thank goodness for McCain's. And who was

1618
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 3: it before that you were growing at four? Was it

1619
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 3: Whatties or something like that? Anyway, Thank goodness for all

1620
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 3: of them. Seventeen par six Barry Sopower sing your political

1621
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,679
Speaker 3: correspondent raps a political week that was for us. Welcome back, Barry,

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01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 3: Thank you, nice to talk to you again.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 3: Look, okay, set aside how we feel about what happened

1625
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:54,639
Speaker 3: in politics yesterday. It is difficult, I understand that. Set

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01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 3: aside how we feel about it. Let's talk about the

1627
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 3: impact of this.

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01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 11: Right.

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01:14:58,120 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 3: This is good for the Mari Party, isn't it?

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01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:00,560
Speaker 18: All that carry on?

1631
01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 3: That's good for them?

1632
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 16: Well, it depends on whether people that vote for the

1633
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 16: Maldi Party like to see that sort of b They.

1634
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 3: Do, yes, they do, because they don't say that, no, Barry,

1635
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 3: because okay, so let's say this is really crude. But

1636
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,599
Speaker 3: let's say you are somebody who cares deeply about Marty issues.

1637
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 3: You've got three different parties on the left to vote

1638
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 3: for if you're not voting for somebody on the right. Right,

1639
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 3: So you've got Labor, You've got the Greens because they're

1640
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 3: all swimming in the same space, and you've got the

1641
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 3: Marty Party. The Marty Party's point of difference is that

1642
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:38,440
Speaker 3: they are radical, outspoken, rude, act up like the performance.

1643
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 3: The performance aspect is what has driven them to this point.

1644
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,559
Speaker 3: That's what their voters want. They just keep growing.

1645
01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 16: The thing that concerns me is that, you know, like

1646
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 16: I said earlier, that this certainly stands the possibility of

1647
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 16: becoming worse, and because we've got sex masters now of

1648
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 16: Select Committee hearings. But the Mary Party would do well

1649
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 16: to reflect on how they do behave in the debating

1650
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 16: chamber because the Speaker's patience has obviously been tested to

1651
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 16: the limit now and I just hope that they are

1652
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 16: dealt to in some significant way rather than being slapped

1653
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 16: on the wrist with a wet bus ticket. Because when

1654
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,439
Speaker 16: you look at the wider Maldi Party. I mean the

1655
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 16: Maori Party is there simply because there's seven Maldy seats.

1656
01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 16: Some would say they are racist seats anyway, they shouldn't

1657
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 16: be there for Maori in particular.

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01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 3: Why not have Well, they're an an acrotism and unnecessary.

1659
01:16:41,240 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 16: Now, well, you know John Key talked about doing away

1660
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 16: with them and then used the Maori Party as an

1661
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 16: insurance policy when he formulated his first MMP government. So

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01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 16: the Maori Party then were quite happy that they were

1663
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 16: there to stay. But you know, the more they test

1664
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 16: Parliament like this, I think the less likely Parliament's patience

1665
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 16: is going to be with the wider Parliament. The Labor

1666
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 16: Party is playing a very dangerous game here, I think

1667
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 16: because that display yesterday was nothing short of disgraceful and

1668
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:27,560
Speaker 16: if the Labor Party, who also joined it on the

1669
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 16: Huka along with the Greens, the Labor Party have got

1670
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 16: to reflect on that because if it wants to get

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01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 16: into government.

1672
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 3: He doesn't want to be.

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01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,040
Speaker 18: Well, it may well have to I.

1674
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 16: Would think, certainly have to do.

1675
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:40,400
Speaker 18: Middle New Zealanders.

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01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 3: Middle New Zealand Middle News like your farmer Entie happy

1677
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 3: Hope could go blue or red, is not going to

1678
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 3: go red if if if you know, if if the

1679
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 3: Red team is in with the Martive Party, right, the

1680
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:53,440
Speaker 3: stuff's too offensive.

1681
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 16: To so they may be basically cocking their own goose.

1682
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally to be careful about that. So, I mean,

1683
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 3: if it's been like this this week before the Hekoy arrives,

1684
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:05,000
Speaker 3: what's it going to be like when the heck was there.

1685
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 16: Well, to me, I'm quite concerned about what's going to

1686
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 16: happen at Parliament on Tuesday, because it'll be the last

1687
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 16: time that gang members, for example, are going to be

1688
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 16: able to display their patches, and so I would imagine

1689
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 16: they'll be out all mass at Parliament.

1690
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:24,120
Speaker 3: Aren't You're going to be at Parliament for a nice

1691
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:28,719
Speaker 3: little cocktail function with a whole lot of a whole

1692
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 3: lot of benighted people.

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01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 16: Well, yes, it'll be interesting to see how that's going

1694
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 16: to come off, because you'll have the screaming outside the

1695
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 16: beehive and inside people clinking cocktail glasses. So I don't

1696
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 16: know how that's going to go down, But at least

1697
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 16: I'll be there on the ground to have a lock

1698
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 16: and see what happens. But it does concern me. We've

1699
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:57,520
Speaker 16: seen the violence at Parliament when Trevor Mallard provoked protesters

1700
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 16: and the anti the men anti mandate issue during the

1701
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 16: Codd thing.

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01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 3: So worries me that do you think it would go

1703
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,040
Speaker 3: down if Jerry turned on the sprinklers.

1704
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,640
Speaker 16: I don't think Jerry is that unwire. He's you know,

1705
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 16: he's had a hell of a week, you know, when

1706
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 16: you consider he banned a journalist, he suddenly reversed that decision,

1707
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 16: and then he had to put up with his rabbel

1708
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 16: in parliament yesterday. I mean it's not been a good

1709
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 16: week for Jerry, not that he could have done anything.

1710
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 16: I think about what happened in Parliament yesterday and then

1711
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 16: stand there because there's no point in trying to yell

1712
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 16: over the top of these yahoos because you know you

1713
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 16: wouldn't be heard. And I think he did the right

1714
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 16: thing waiting for the harker to finish because the public

1715
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 16: galleries were still going, but at least he could be

1716
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:49,560
Speaker 16: heard before he suspended parliament and walked out in I

1717
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 16: think discussed.

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01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 3: Barry this and thank you very much, really appreciate that

1719
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 3: that Barry Sober, senior political political correspondent, rapping the political

1720
01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 3: week that was for us just really quickly on the

1721
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 3: rugby doesn't look like World Rugby is totally convinced on

1722
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 3: the twenty minute red cards. You know this thing where

1723
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:06,760
Speaker 3: if they do a technical foul not an out and

1724
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:09,519
Speaker 3: out foul, their player gets sin bin for three for

1725
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 3: twenty minutes and then gets replaced by another player they

1726
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 3: were supposed to have by the looks of things, made

1727
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 3: a decision, this is World Rugby on whether to that's

1728
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 3: a trial at the moment, whether to go with it

1729
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 3: or not. They've decided to extend the trial and postpone

1730
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 3: the decision basically because you've got all these these Northern

1731
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 3: Tour games on at the moment, involving the All Blacks

1732
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 3: and various other you know games going on besides ours

1733
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,479
Speaker 3: as well, lots of crossing the hemisphere going on. They

1734
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 3: want to see what happens at the end of it,

1735
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 3: at the end of spring, so that would be basically

1736
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:40,640
Speaker 3: the end of the month, I would say, and then

1737
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,680
Speaker 3: they're going to take the feedback in the data analysis

1738
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 3: and they're going to rethink it. Not everybody loves it,

1739
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 3: particularly the French and the Irish. They reckon it poses

1740
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 3: a health risk, so that may be part of the

1741
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 3: reason they're delaying it. Now, I'm going to talk about

1742
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 3: some bad behavior next. You gotta want to hear this

1743
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:54,799
Speaker 3: six twenty.

1744
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 2: Three, everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business Hour,

1745
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:02,560
Speaker 2: they had the duple c Allis and my HR, the

1746
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,440
Speaker 2: HR solution for busy smy on news Talk ZB.

1747
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 3: Here the please don't tell me but nevack radj Rodgers is.

1748
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 3: She's the one who got the new head of news

1749
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 3: job at TV and said, look, actually I should have

1750
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 3: said this. I got a lot of text saying, well,

1751
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 3: who's what's this woman's name? And I didn't give you

1752
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:17,680
Speaker 3: the name because I didn't think that anybody knew who

1753
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 3: she was. But yeah, that's old mate. That's old mate

1754
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:22,920
Speaker 3: who went on the hecoy and has now posted pictures

1755
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 3: on Instagram and is going to get be the top

1756
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 3: news boss. By the looks of things, not confirmed just yet,

1757
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 3: but that's apparently all the industry rumor. Weird thing has

1758
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 3: just happened, by the way, at Netflix, because Netflix is

1759
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 3: running this boxing bout between Mike Tyson and Jake Paul,

1760
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:40,080
Speaker 3: which is already quite controversial because Mike Tyson is fifty

1761
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,839
Speaker 3: eight and Jake Paul is twenty seven, and Mike Tyson

1762
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 3: hasn't boxed for what nineteen years, that was his last

1763
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,680
Speaker 3: sanction fight. Anyway, they had their way in and it's

1764
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 3: got weird, like really weird. Mike Tyson after the way

1765
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 3: in just like full slapped Jake Paul on the face

1766
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 3: and had to be taken away, just slapped him, and

1767
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 3: Jake Paul said, I didn't even feel it. He's an

1768
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 3: angry little elf. But also, as if that's not weird enough,

1769
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 3: Mike Tyson came into the weird to the way in

1770
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 3: with his vasace knickers on. And when I say nickers,

1771
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 3: because I'm trying to like we're talking speedo's not boxes,

1772
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:18,840
Speaker 3: not sexy little silky boxes. Nickers. He's weird, isn't it. Anyway,

1773
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 3: he's got controversy. He's doing the same thing as Trump

1774
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 3: and the Mardy Party, just being weird so he can

1775
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 3: get some attention. Six twenty seven. Now I told you

1776
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 3: I was going to talk to you about some bad behavior.

1777
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 3: There's an article online today about some of the worst

1778
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 3: behavior by stars on sets, and some of it is

1779
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 3: so outrageous. I'm going to give you as much as

1780
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 3: I can before the headlines, and then off, fill you

1781
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:44,160
Speaker 3: in with the rest afterwards. The Rock apparently, you know

1782
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:48,040
Speaker 3: Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Apparently when he's filming, he doesn't

1783
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 3: go to the toilet. He peas in a bottle, and

1784
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 3: he has a very specific bottle that he likes to use.

1785
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 3: It's a fancy bottle made by Voss, which does premium waters,

1786
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 3: and Voss water costs about four times what yeah, the

1787
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 3: premium water's costs, right. Remember, you can't get it out

1788
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 3: of the tap for free. But he gets it out.

1789
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:08,600
Speaker 3: He drinks his little Voss and then he will he

1790
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,640
Speaker 3: wewees into it, and then somebody in the team on

1791
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 3: set or his pa has to take the bottle of

1792
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 3: warm weewiz go tip it in the toilet. Isn't that weird?

1793
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 3: He's often late, and this is so or This is

1794
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 3: just so minor in the list of weird things that

1795
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:27,800
Speaker 3: happens in Hollywood that it hardly anybody thinks it's a

1796
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 3: big deal. Robert Pattinson, who became something of a sex god, remember,

1797
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 3: because he was in the old Twilight films and all

1798
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 3: the girls loved him, and then he became Batman, doesn't

1799
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 3: wash his hair. Doesn't deny this. He admits he doesn't

1800
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 3: wash his hair. Somebody said he stinks it's awful. He

1801
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 3: never showers. It drives people on set crazy and he

1802
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 3: completely reaks. He said he just didn't see the point

1803
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 3: in washing his hair. He said, it doesn't matter. Why

1804
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 3: would you wash it? More to come headlines next?

1805
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,600
Speaker 1: What if it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1806
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 2: The business with the duper c and my HR, the

1807
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 2: HR solution for busy smy on news talk Zi.

1808
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:21,799
Speaker 18: Be the rain and Ouklum has stopped.

1809
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,240
Speaker 3: So if you're gonna head out to the cold play,

1810
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 3: what are you doing? Why aren't you already on your way?

1811
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 3: Get on your way. You know what it's like with

1812
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 3: aukam trans. We'll get on that bus, get on that train,

1813
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 3: get out there immediately. We'll just he koy there, just

1814
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 3: to use your old Yi Express and have a little

1815
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 3: wonder down to Eton Park. But I'll tell you what.

1816
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 18: The rain has stopped.

1817
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 3: It's damp, but it's not raining anymore. So this is

1818
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:49,520
Speaker 3: good and you're gonna love this tune. Good times feel.

1819
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 1: You make me feel?

1820
01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 3: Wait for it here it comes, come on.

1821
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 10: Good?

1822
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:02,040
Speaker 26: Can you go again?

1823
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 21: O lord? Yes?

1824
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 3: Anyway we've can to stop raving about it, because honestly,

1825
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 3: otherwise it's just going to be a borer and claricist.

1826
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 3: So just talking about Coldplay the whole time. I'm going

1827
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 3: to go to the UK shortly with Gail Downey. Looks

1828
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 3: like the Duval founders. By the way, this is Kenyan

1829
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:16,320
Speaker 3: and Charlotte Clark. Can't find a lawyer or don't want

1830
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 3: to find a lawyer. It's hard to know exactly what's

1831
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 3: going on here. They are eligible for legal aid, but

1832
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 3: they haven't by the looks of things. Actually I don't

1833
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 3: know applied for legal aid or got a lawyer under it.

1834
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 3: They just haven't used it. They haven't done anything. So

1835
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 3: what this means is that the fma's case against them,

1836
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 3: which was supposed to start on December the third, has

1837
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:37,680
Speaker 3: to now be delayed because of this. The judge is

1838
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 3: not happy about this, has given them a fortnite. He's like,

1839
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,599
Speaker 3: you get your legal aid in order within the next fortnight,

1840
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:46,080
Speaker 3: and if you don't, then we need a comprehensive explanation

1841
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 3: for why you haven't done that, and then he's going

1842
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:50,800
Speaker 3: to give them another week after that, and if by

1843
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:53,320
Speaker 3: then they really haven't met the deadlines, So they've actually

1844
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 3: got three weeks. Then the judge is going to chat

1845
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 3: to them a little bit more. Twenty two away from

1846
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:01,560
Speaker 3: seven ever, Duplessy l the Lewis Asia Business correspondent with

1847
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 3: US Allo Pieter, good evening, how's China feeling about Marco Rubio?

1848
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 27: Then, well, with some alarm because he hasn't in the

1849
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 27: past been a great friend of China. He was the

1850
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 27: guy who sponsored the bill to prevent the import of

1851
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 27: goods which are made by China's ethnic Wiga minorities, which

1852
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 27: Joe Biden later signed into law. And he was also

1853
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 27: the cauth of the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Acts,

1854
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 27: which ultimately led to the US Treasury issuing sanctions on

1855
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 27: many Hong Kong officials, including the current Chief Executive John

1856
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 27: Lee and the Secretary for Security Chris Tang. So he

1857
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 27: has formed here and when you look back at some

1858
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 27: of his comments, I mean he says the threat from

1859
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:51,759
Speaker 27: China is the one that's going to define this century.

1860
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 27: So it's a fairly hard line appointment and very hawkish one.

1861
01:26:56,680 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 27: And you have to combine that also with Trump's National

1862
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:06,360
Speaker 27: security advisor Mike Wolls, who's also extremely outspoken about China.

1863
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:09,759
Speaker 27: He describes China as the greater threat to the United

1864
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:13,679
Speaker 27: States than any other nation. So this is a very hawkish,

1865
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 27: fairly anti China pair. But a lot depends, i think,

1866
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:21,719
Speaker 27: because they're obviously not going to make the policy towards

1867
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 27: China that's going to come from Trump himself, and a

1868
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 27: lot depends upon which version of Trump turns up. Is

1869
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 27: it going to be the one who's fairly transactional and

1870
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 27: wants to do a trade deal with China and all

1871
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 27: of this is just a way of arm twisting them

1872
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 27: to come to the table, Or is it going to

1873
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 27: be the angry, vengeful Trump who's going to want revenge

1874
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 27: on China because they relayed on that first trade deal

1875
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 27: that they made in his first presidency. They didn't buy

1876
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 27: anything like the two hundred billion dollars worth of goods

1877
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 27: that they promised to do. They blame COVID for that,

1878
01:27:56,439 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 27: and Trump also blames China and COVID for ending his

1879
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 27: presidency after just one term. So it's very hard to

1880
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 27: know what we're going to get. But the way the

1881
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:09,639
Speaker 27: fit stars are lining up at the moment, it doesn't

1882
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,439
Speaker 27: look great for China. And you have to combine that

1883
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 27: with the fact that Also Marco Ruba himself is sanctioned

1884
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 27: by Beijing, so it means he can never actually visit

1885
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 27: China as long as he's on that sanctions list.

1886
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 3: Would they take him off?

1887
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:28,600
Speaker 27: Well, remember this happened before when John Lee couldn't go

1888
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 27: to San Francisco for the APEX summits and the US

1889
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 27: refused to take him off the list. They were saying

1890
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 27: this was the law. Where you can imagine China saying

1891
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 27: the same thing now in retaliation.

1892
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, fair enough, Okay, And so I understand that

1893
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:43,640
Speaker 3: Beijing actually was prepared for Trump and they have got

1894
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 3: a whole bunch of countermeasures. What are these countermeasures, Well,

1895
01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 3: they have.

1896
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 27: I mean they've spent the last couple of years sort

1897
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:54,639
Speaker 27: of almost mirroring the laws that the US is pot

1898
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 27: in place. So they've got their own now anti foreign

1899
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 27: sanctions law so that it can count to measures taken

1900
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 27: by other countries. It's also got its own version of

1901
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 27: the entities list that the US has, so it can

1902
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 27: put on it foreign companies that it deems to have

1903
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 27: undermined its national interests. So it certainly is prepared for this,

1904
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 27: and it could do some damage to the US. A

1905
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:24,639
Speaker 27: lot of people think that the boys in the US

1906
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:28,639
Speaker 27: is caught because it is the buyer ultimately of Chinese goods,

1907
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 27: and the buyer tends to have the upper hand. And

1908
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:35,120
Speaker 27: that's certainly true, and they're just aren't enough goods that

1909
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 27: China exports that buys from the US that it could

1910
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 27: put its own sanctions on. But the thing is the

1911
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 27: US does also buy some things from China that it

1912
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 27: absolutely needs, so for example, rare earth metals and lydium

1913
01:29:50,240 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 27: that's absolutely crucial to modern technologies and semiconductors, and really

1914
01:29:56,200 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 27: China controls the global supply chains of these, so it

1915
01:30:00,439 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 27: could really go out and sort of weaponize its dominance

1916
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:06,639
Speaker 27: of these of these supply chains and refuse to sell

1917
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:11,519
Speaker 27: these wearers lidium that are needed for batteries and solar

1918
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 27: panels and so on, and in turn calls damage a

1919
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 27: fair bit of damage to the US. And it has

1920
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 27: shown in the past it's prepared to do that. It's

1921
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 27: put sanctions on various US companies. Skydio was the most

1922
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:28,879
Speaker 27: recent one, a big US drone maker, and banned Chinese

1923
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 27: groups from providing that company with these critical components. So

1924
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:34,560
Speaker 27: it is prepared to go and do it.

1925
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 3: Peter TELLMI, what's the feeling within China about how Trump

1926
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 3: and his administration his guys would would how strongly they

1927
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:43,759
Speaker 3: would protect Taiwan.

1928
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 27: Well, this is another area where we really don't know

1929
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:55,080
Speaker 27: how how weadd is Donald Trump to protecting Taiwan. I mean,

1930
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 27: he tends to look at relationships, certainly in his first

1931
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 27: presidency with close allies like Japan, like South Korea, as

1932
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Speaker 27: being very transactional, and one of the things is always

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Speaker 27: said to them is you've got to pay more for

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Speaker 27: your own defense. So he sees it as you know, look,

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Speaker 27: I'll look after you if you basically go and buy

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Speaker 27: more stuff from US. Now, Taiwan has a very easy

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Speaker 27: way out of its problems with the US. It runs

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Speaker 27: also large trade surpluses with the US. Just go and

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Speaker 27: buy weapons from the US. The US is willing to

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Speaker 27: sell them if it wants that type of transactional deal.

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Speaker 27: Taiwan could offer to go and buy them.

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Speaker 15: Now.

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Speaker 27: The problem is under the Biden administration, it hasn't wanted

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Speaker 27: to sell some of the things that Taiwan wants, like

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Speaker 27: advanced fighter jets, because it will be seen as too provocative.

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Speaker 27: But you could see Trump going down that route now

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Speaker 27: if he does, and if he gets anywhere near close

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Speaker 27: to crossing the China's red lines on Taiwan, and one

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Speaker 27: of the things that's been threatened is, you know, actually

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Speaker 27: starting to recognize Taiwan more formally and diplomatically, then I

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Speaker 27: think it would close off any space for discussions between

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Speaker 27: China and the US. They just simply wouldn't come to

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Speaker 27: the table.

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Speaker 3: Interesting, very very interesting. Hey, Peter, thanks very much, really

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Speaker 3: appreciate you talking us through that. I can't wait to

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Speaker 3: see how this all plays out. That's Peter Lewis, Asia

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Speaker 3: Business correspondent. Hither. I just ran into a chunk of

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Speaker 3: the he coy convoy today at a service station and

1959
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 3: a lot of mongrel mob garb there. So you are right.

1960
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Speaker 3: I think there's going to be a huge gang presence

1961
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Speaker 3: at Parliament. I think you might be right, Paul, and

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Speaker 3: keep an eye out for that. And that again, like

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Speaker 3: I was saying before, Middle New Zealand's not going to

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Speaker 3: love that, right. We don't want to see gang patches,

1965
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Speaker 3: do we. We don't want to see gang patches. That's

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Speaker 3: why we're banning them from Thursday. So for the Maori

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Speaker 3: Party to have that there, well whatever, that pretty radical anyway,

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Speaker 3: hardly anybody in Middle New Zealand's going to vote for

1969
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Speaker 3: the Marty Party. But for Chris Hopkins to turn up

1970
01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 3: at that he Corey with the patches there maybe not

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Speaker 3: a smart move.

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Speaker 1: Quarter two lunching the numbers and getting the results.

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Speaker 2: It's hither duple c Ellen with the Business Hour thanks

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Speaker 2: to my HR, the HR solution for busy smys on

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Speaker 2: news talks.

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Speaker 3: Here we've got another one coming out. Yeah, pole dancing

1977
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 3: is an official sport and it should be included in

1978
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Speaker 3: the Olympic Games, say the overseas promoters. And all I

1979
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Speaker 3: would say to you is be careful what you wish for,

1980
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Speaker 3: because look at what happened with breakdancing. It was an

1981
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Speaker 3: official sport and then it got included for one one

1982
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:32,599
Speaker 3: Olympic Games, and then we ditched it. But now we're

1983
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Speaker 3: stuck with reagun twelve away from seven and with us.

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Speaker 3: Now is Gail Downey are UK correspondent? Hey Gail hi?

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Speaker 11: There?

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Speaker 3: So how the prison officers, the numbers of them getting

1987
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Speaker 3: sacked is going up, but by how much?

1988
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Speaker 11: By a third?

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Speaker 19: So up to June this year there are one hundred

1990
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Speaker 19: and sixty five prison staff fired. Obviously a third up

1991
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Speaker 19: on that I said the previous year. I'll just give

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Speaker 19: you an idea some of the offenses. So these include

1993
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Speaker 19: sex acts with inmates and other inappropriate behavior, plus selling

1994
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Speaker 19: drugs and phones, and all of this has come out

1995
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Speaker 19: in a report by His Majesty's Prison and Probation Service.

1996
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Speaker 19: One prison officer who was caught and later jailed for

1997
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Speaker 19: taking drugs into the prison said he could get up

1998
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:19,680
Speaker 19: to eight hundred dollars for each parcel he brought in

1999
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 19: with drugs into the prison. Another former officer was filmed

2000
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Speaker 19: having sex with an inmate. She was sacked after the

2001
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:32,679
Speaker 19: video went viral on social media. So John Podmore, who yeah,

2002
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Speaker 19: John Podmore, who was a former governor of several large prisons,

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Speaker 19: including the really big.

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Speaker 11: Ones in London.

2005
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Speaker 19: He's come out and he's said corruption inside prisons is

2006
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 19: a greater problem than it has ever been. He says

2007
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Speaker 19: the problem is young, inexperienced staff with poor vetting and

2008
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:55,639
Speaker 19: inadequate training. And he estimates the value of drugs traded

2009
01:34:55,680 --> 01:34:59,200
Speaker 19: across all prisons in the UK each year is more

2010
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Speaker 19: than two billion dollars.

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Speaker 3: She shit's quite substantial. I mean, look, here's the thing, right,

2012
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Speaker 3: we know that with any within any profession, any sick

2013
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Speaker 3: that there are going to be some bad eggs. The

2014
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:12,680
Speaker 3: question is basically like how many of them? Is this

2015
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 3: a big proportion of staff?

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Speaker 19: Well, it seems to be a reasonably large proportion of staff.

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Speaker 19: But the problem is, as John Podmore said, the problem

2018
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Speaker 19: is training, because you can actually apply to be a

2019
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Speaker 19: prison officer in England and Wales without any qualifications at all. Okay,

2020
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Speaker 19: I mean they give them training on the job. Yeah,

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Speaker 19: they do give them a training. I think it's seven

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Speaker 19: weeks training on the job, but you don't need any qualification,

2023
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:40,680
Speaker 19: do they do? So they do do vetting, yes, but

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Speaker 19: he thinks that that should be much tighter.

2025
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Hey, I see one of Muhammad al

2026
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 3: Fayed's brothers has now been accused. What's he apparently done?

2027
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Speaker 19: Well, this is Salah Fayed. As you know, there are

2028
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Speaker 19: three brothers who bought the Harrold's department store in London.

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Speaker 3: Back in nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 19: He's now been accused of sexual assault and trafficking by

2031
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Speaker 19: three former employees, three women who worked there. They also

2032
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:11,439
Speaker 19: say they were sexually assaulted or raped by Muhammad Alphaired,

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Speaker 19: who was chairman of the company. So this has all

2034
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 19: come out. As you know, there's been a whole raft

2035
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:22,560
Speaker 19: of women who've now come forward and made these accusations

2036
01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 19: and also claims of course of a cover up. You

2037
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:30,599
Speaker 19: know that they made complaints as supervisors, to colleagues, to management,

2038
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Speaker 19: and actually nothing was done. In this latest revelation, Harod's

2039
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Speaker 19: new owners who bought the store in twenty ten, they say, well,

2040
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:44,960
Speaker 19: the claims point to the breadth of abuse by Al Faired,

2041
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 19: that's Muhammad Alfhired, and they raised serious allegations against his brother.

2042
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Speaker 19: His brother died of pancreatic cancer in twenty ten. Muhammad Alfhaired,

2043
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Speaker 19: he died in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Gail, thanks for running us all that stuff that

2045
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:02,639
Speaker 3: scale down he our UK correspond and enjoy your weekend.

2046
01:37:02,640 --> 01:37:04,600
Speaker 3: By the way, it's nine. Oh I'm not finished. My

2047
01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 3: list of bad things that superstars do hang on a

2048
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:07,800
Speaker 3: tack nine away from seven.

2049
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 1: Getting ready for a new administration in the US. What

2050
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 1: will be the impact?

2051
01:37:13,200 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 2: It's the Business Hour with Heather Duplas Allen and my HR.

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01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 2: The HR solution for busy SMEs news talk, said be.

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01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,720
Speaker 3: Heather. Robert Patterson looks like he doesn't brush his teeth either.

2054
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,400
Speaker 3: Ye fairy fangs yuck. Yeah, he does have that look

2055
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:31,519
Speaker 3: about him. Okay, so this guy's unnamed. We don't know

2056
01:37:31,600 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 3: who this is, but apparently he threw a tantrum attending

2057
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:36,559
Speaker 3: a film festival because his toilet seat in his hotel

2058
01:37:36,680 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 3: was too cold, so he made the hotel manager warm

2059
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 3: the seat for him every time he needed to use it.

2060
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 3: Now this is important because boys don't sit down for

2061
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 3: number ones, do they, So just bear that in mind.

2062
01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:51,000
Speaker 3: He did so much crazy stuff. He actually sabotaged his career.

2063
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 3: They haven't named it. Nobody cares. He's not a star anymore,

2064
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 3: probably for good reason. Val Kilmer, remember Val Kilmer, Val Kilner,

2065
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 3: the Old Batman and various other things. He apparently poked

2066
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:07,600
Speaker 3: a cameraman with a lit cigar in his face, and

2067
01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 3: there was no reason for why he decided to do that.

2068
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 3: It was simply because he was in a bad mood,

2069
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 3: so he just fagging away. It was actually not a cigar,

2070
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:16,360
Speaker 3: It was just a sigy, just fagging away and in

2071
01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 3: the cameraman, just in the face. Now, you only do

2072
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:21,559
Speaker 3: like that's mental, Like if I went up to ants

2073
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 3: and if I was fagging, which I don't, But Let's

2074
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 3: just say it was suspend reality. Let's just say I

2075
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 3: was fagging because it's nineteen eighty five and I'm fagging

2076
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 3: in the newsroom and smoking away and then I poked

2077
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:33,800
Speaker 3: it in ANSWER's face just because I was in a

2078
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:36,559
Speaker 3: bad mood. Can you imagine the shit storm that would

2079
01:38:36,600 --> 01:38:38,960
Speaker 3: rain down on me for doing that? So what kind

2080
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 3: of a world does val Kiln?

2081
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 26: The Living and played a video game Heither which starts

2082
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 26: with you being tortured that way, Like you've been there,

2083
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:47,800
Speaker 26: so you could probably cope with it. Well, no, no,

2084
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 26: isn't like no, it's just on the screen. But like,

2085
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 26: that's what he's doing. He's doing a thing that people

2086
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 26: do to torture other people just for fun.

2087
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:56,040
Speaker 3: Weird, doesn't it Like there's no consequences, So you think

2088
01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 3: it's fine, I can here we go. Timothy shalla May,

2089
01:38:58,479 --> 01:38:59,679
Speaker 3: I've left the Beast till last.

2090
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 6: I haven't.

2091
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 3: There's two of them. I'm gonna come back to Timothy

2092
01:39:02,120 --> 01:39:03,960
Speaker 3: Shallamay because and the only reason I'm leaving it's not

2093
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 3: because this is the worst. I'm just gonna leave him

2094
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 3: to last because he's the current sex god. So that's

2095
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:11,080
Speaker 3: gonna upset the teenagers Tom Hardy. You know Tom Hardy

2096
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 3: as in like oh bye by the bird. He's awesome

2097
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:18,560
Speaker 3: and I love him, and I'm gutted to say that.

2098
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 3: He was doing the Mad Max film with Charlie's Tron,

2099
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 3: you know she babe sex God. They were doing the

2100
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:26,720
Speaker 3: Mad Max film together and he arrived for a very

2101
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 3: important scene three hours late, and she's so angry she

2102
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 3: called him the sea word. Okay, Timothy Challo May. This

2103
01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:35,680
Speaker 3: is the dude who does Dune and Wonka and like

2104
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:37,920
Speaker 3: everybody loves him at the moment because he turns up

2105
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 3: to his like impersonation contests and there he is, look

2106
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 3: Timothy Shallamey lookalikes and actually Timothy Shalla May. He's recently

2107
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 3: been filming a film about Bob Dylan, and a crew

2108
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 3: member told The Daily Mail that the crew were not

2109
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:52,760
Speaker 3: allowed to make eye contact with him or introduce themselves.

2110
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:56,920
Speaker 3: And one assistant took a picture of the solar eclipse

2111
01:39:57,000 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 3: in April, and he may have been in that picture,

2112
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:02,040
Speaker 3: and he was so upset that she had taken a

2113
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 3: picture with him possibly in it, that he cursed at her,

2114
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:07,760
Speaker 3: cursed her out, and then a security guard had to

2115
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:10,919
Speaker 3: look at her phone and delete all the photos, bad behavior.

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01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 26: Ah, yes, they're all still rock stars here. Speaking of

2117
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:15,639
Speaker 26: rock stars, by the way, a sky Full of Stars

2118
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 26: by cold Play to play us out tonight because cole Play.

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Speaker 26: The second of the three shows is happening at Eden Park,

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Speaker 26: and I'm pretty sure they were pretty well on time

2121
01:40:23,720 --> 01:40:26,000
Speaker 26: last time, right, They started at like eight fifteen, about

2122
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 26: when we were expecting. So yeah, I mean, you know,

2123
01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 26: stands to reason that they can probably get up there

2124
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:31,639
Speaker 26: by eight fifteen. If you don't want to miss the show.

2125
01:40:31,560 --> 01:40:33,320
Speaker 3: Yep, you've got an hour and fifteen minutes and they

2126
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 3: do a tight little two hour sessay and that's twice

2127
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:39,559
Speaker 3: as long as that dickhead Travis Scott did, which I'm

2128
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 3: still not over how disrespectful, like one guy cannot do

2129
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 3: more than an hour, and these guys are actual who

2130
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 3: even knows who that guy is. These guys are actual

2131
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 3: superstars and they did more than two hours. So enjoy

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Speaker 3: yourself because this is brilliant show, absolutely brilliant. Enjoy your weekend.

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Speaker 3: I'll see you next lass you Monday.

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Speaker 21: Bye.

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