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Speaker 1: One of the questions we had out of the FBI

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Speaker 1: announcement last week is is it all about China in

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Speaker 1: five hours or does some of dub Taylor with the

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Speaker 1: local crime scene and if so, how do our police

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Speaker 1: fit in with that particular operation.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Mike Pannet is the Assistant Police Commissioner for International and

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Speaker 1: National Security and is with us Mike morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Are there a whole bunch of jurisdictional issues and boundaries

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Speaker 1: around this and how it works?

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Speaker 2: No, the FBI are not strangers to us in New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: We've actually had an office set up here since twenty

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Speaker 2: seventeen and have been actually working with the FBI since

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Speaker 2: the late nineteen thirties. Believe it or not, what did

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Speaker 2: the FBI do here?

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Speaker 1: Literally?

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Speaker 2: But their focus within New Zealand is very much in

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Speaker 2: our traditional crime types. So we work with them extensively

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Speaker 2: in the counter terrorism space, on transnational organized crime, on

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Speaker 2: child exploitation, and on cybercrime.

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Speaker 1: So it's the same thing that you hear often in

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Speaker 1: the news about you working with Interpol. They're just the

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Speaker 1: American version of Interpol.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're a little bit more specific than that, and

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Speaker 2: that they have specialty capabilities that are really helpful for us.

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Speaker 2: But likewise, as a member of that five Yes community,

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Speaker 2: they bring different skills that help us all work together

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Speaker 2: on those crime types.

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Speaker 1: Given you have worked with them previously. Does a local

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Speaker 1: office enhance how all this happens?

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Speaker 2: I think it is a signal of the strength of

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Speaker 2: the relationship that we have moved from an individual local

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Speaker 2: to a full legal attached office. Historically that was covered

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Speaker 2: out of Australia since the nineteen seventies, so in some

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Speaker 2: ways a coming of age and certainly a time for

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Speaker 2: recognition of New Zealand as a five Yes partner within

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Speaker 2: the law enforcement space.

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Speaker 1: Good will we see given the cooperation between the two

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Speaker 1: you and them, will we see material results in terms

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Speaker 1: of crime and crackdowns?

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Speaker 2: I am absolutely assured that we will. We are seeing

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Speaker 2: it on a day to day basis now they are

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Speaker 2: providing us information and in return, crime, particularly transnational organized crime,

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Speaker 2: which across all the five Vice community, is a threat

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Speaker 2: to the national security of each of our nations.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, Mike, appreciate the insight. Mike Penity's the Assistant

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Speaker 1: Police Commissioner International and National Security. For more from the

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