1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: The government's been rolling out the welcome mat for local 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: and international investors today this investment summit, the Australian Infrastructure 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Investor Plenary has committed already come out and said we 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: are bidding for at least five PPPs and we're going 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: to open an office here in the next eighteen months. 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: That came from Chris Bishop, who was on the show, 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: to staff to five. This Italian investor is keen to 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: put his hat in the ring for the Northern Expressway and. 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: I think that we are looking at the first big PPP, 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 2: the Northland Corridor, the highway, and I think is happening 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: and it's real, and it's something that you know, I 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: worked with governments arounderworld and it's very rare to see 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: every time a deadline that has been met by the 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: government side. 15 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely Now. 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: Brett Shepard was there as well, Craig's Investment Partners representing 17 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: some big investors at the summit. He's with me now, high. 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: Brett, get up, Ryan, how's it going. 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: You're really good. Thanks for being with me. Run us 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: through your highlights real from today, Brett, what was it like? 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: I think in the moment of plenary, you know, Italian investors. 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: Basically shows how while it's being received by international and 23 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: local investors. You probably can summarize it in a couple of ways. First, 24 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 3: I think the commitment of the Prime Minister and their 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 3: respective ministers to grow the economy on a consistent basis 26 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: through partnership and infrastructure. I mean that message was just 27 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 3: resounding and continued commitment every presentation to that. But then 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: it was followed up which people have found incredible is 29 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:46,400 Speaker 3: the accessibility the Prime Minister and the ministers to discuss 30 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: both projects and the concept and the policy framework upon 31 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: what to do that because they're not used to that. 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: They used to having Prime Minister present and then disappear, 33 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: But the Prime Minister made himself available throughout the whole conference, 34 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: which was I think also the commitment of Eliso isn't 35 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: it was great to have many Fenua present, how they 36 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: were ready to partner up and be available on a 37 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: permanent capital basis and dependent commitment basis, which resounded really 38 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: well with just about every international investor. And then we 39 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 3: got to both specific projects because you've just identified at 40 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 3: the riding project to be at hostels being built, at 41 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: courts being built, and so that resonated well with investors 42 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: that this wasn't just a short term kind of rhetorics 43 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: as an actual process and there was work in progress 44 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,279 Speaker 3: that they could commit to over the medium terms. 45 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: We've had fast track changes here in New Zealand, we've 46 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: had overseas investment laws changed here as well. How much 47 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: do they play into the decisions that will be made 48 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: and not just the fact that they've been changed, but 49 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: the possibility that they might be changed back if we had, 50 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: you know, if we have a change in government. 51 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 3: Sexuent question, because I mean understanding what labor says tomorrow 52 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 3: is going to be important and the opposition says tomorrow, 53 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: but the approach that's been communicated and that this is 54 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 3: a bipartisan approach. And so when you look at being 55 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: able to do projects of national significance, when as you said, 56 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,160 Speaker 3: looking at the FDO rules in a way that encourages 57 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 3: international investments, people are looking for their consistency and policy 58 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: between government. You're exactly right. So right now people are 59 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: excited about the work in progress in front of them, 60 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 3: but will still be looking for the commitment to labor 61 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: and infrastructure specifically that they won't be looking to change 62 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: the rules and just what you've identified, brit What. 63 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: Are the investors that you represent the other investors in 64 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: the room. What do they normally invest in? Are they? 65 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: Are they all kind of PPP people and what why 66 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: are PPPs attractive to them? 67 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: No? 68 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: Excellent. So these are global pension funds with over a 69 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: trillion dollars an investment. So they invest in a range 70 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: of investment from bonds, shares, real estate in what we 71 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 3: call alternative assets, and an alternative assets is public private partnerships. 72 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: They so they have the school base and the expertise 73 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 3: to invest in it. Why do they investor? They've learned 74 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: globally that a they can deliver products cheaper and the 75 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 3: they can operate them better than central government in terms 76 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: of maintenance of assets. They let the social service being 77 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 3: developed by the governments that does found they're very good 78 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 3: at that. So they become experts in this globally. 79 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: Now you mentioned labor tomorrow, obviously there's going to be 80 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: a lot of focus on what they've got to say. 81 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: But the the other thing that's come out is the 82 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: pipeline of work. How you know how many projects ahead 83 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: do you do? You know do these investors need to 84 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: be looking before they'll commit to coming here. 85 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: That's excellent. I guess we've still got transport coming tomorrow 86 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: and roading. But through the communication of house, education, the 87 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 3: courts and the corrections, they could see a five to 88 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: a year pipeline and in fact some examples were given 89 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 3: of a thirty year pipeline without being specific on projects. 90 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: To see how the government's thinking is working and so 91 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: trending is a classic. So when you hear how they 92 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: ever commitment to not a single project but a series 93 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 3: of projects over three to five to ten year period, 94 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: then you get engagement not just of money, but of 95 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: people on the ground to make sure happen. 96 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: Really interesting, lovely to hear your perspective from actually being their. 97 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: Brit Shepherd from Craig's Investment Partners are representing some of 98 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: the big investors at the summit and giving us a 99 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: pretty good rundown of what it was like to be 100 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: there and what people who have come from all over 101 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: the world are thinking. 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