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Speaker 1: Uh calls this morning for a look, if not an

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Speaker 1: overhaula but what we call the Clean Slate Act. This

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Speaker 1: is after a teacher hit passed convictions but nevertheless became

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Speaker 1: registered went on to abuse nine girls. It wasn't like

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Speaker 1: they went warnings, but the teaching council ignored what they

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Speaker 1: call red stamp warnings. Anyway, Bill Hodges, a retired Auckland

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Speaker 1: University law professor in respect, Well, there's Bill morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Well, good morning.

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Speaker 1: Is the problem the Clean Slight Act or is it

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Speaker 1: people not being a white when they see red flags?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's both. I can't understand what happened

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Speaker 2: in the teaching council. I mean, how do you ignore

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Speaker 2: a red flag? Did they go back and look at

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Speaker 2: the actual offending? And if they had, I can't see

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Speaker 2: how they would then say under the statute he was

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Speaker 2: a person of good character and fit to teach, which

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Speaker 2: is their statutory obligation. But I'm saying that the statute

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Speaker 2: does need to be overhauled, brought up to date. It's

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Speaker 2: based on the nineteen sixty one Crimes Act in terms

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Speaker 2: of the specified offenses and the nineteen oh eight Crime

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Speaker 2: ex Act of all things, but you just need to

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Speaker 2: bring it up to date, like harmful digital communications to

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Speaker 2: be in there. Bring it up to date.

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Speaker 1: Who does it apply to in terms of professions and chicks?

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Speaker 3: Well, the exclusions it's easier to say who's excluded. If

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Speaker 3: you apply to the police as a per job, you

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Speaker 3: can't lie about your past. If you apply to corrections,

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Speaker 3: you can't lie about your past. If you're applying ver

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Speaker 3: sies documents overseas governments, you can't lie about your past.

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Speaker 3: But generally, anybody in the private sector, if you're going

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Speaker 3: into jobs in the private sector and you've had i'll

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Speaker 3: call them offenses, it's not serious crimes where you went

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Speaker 3: to jail. It's only offenses maybe marijuana possession, maybe a

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Speaker 3: drunkenness episode. Youthful indiscretions. You can lie about those going

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Speaker 3: forward in your career. That's what it was meant to cover.

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Speaker 3: Youthful indiscretions. In the private sectoring private education, including all

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Speaker 3: the health professions, care and assistance for aged persons, you

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Speaker 3: can lie about your background.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff. You'll appreciate the insights. So clearly one of

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Speaker 1: those laws that's been left idle, and they'll get around

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Speaker 1: to it eventually. You would think you would hope.

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