1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,600 Speaker 1: Let's move on. 2 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 2: Barry sopis here singing your political chorus. Wonder Barry good afternoon, 3 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,279 Speaker 2: afternoon run. So they've been talking about the Sydney massacre 4 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 2: in Parliament this afternoon. 5 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got to say it was a moving start 6 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: to Parliament today with the Prime Minister himself moving emotion 7 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: on the Jewish massacre and Bondo Beach. I thought all 8 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: the speeches were poignant and reflected the mood of most 9 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: of us at the moment. Chris Luxen. He was followed 10 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: by Labour's Chris Hopkins and then the Greens Chloe Swarbrick. 11 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: Here they are people were shot dead on a beach 12 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 3: on Sunday just for being Jewish. Anti Semitism is one 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 3: of the oldest forms of hatred and history, and it 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: remains one of the most dangerous. It mutates, it disguises itself, 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 3: but its impact is always the same, fair exclusion and dehumanization. 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 3: As Prime Minister and Leader of the National Party, I 17 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: stand in solidarity with the Jewish community which feels shaken 18 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: and vulnerable right now, and I say to the community, 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: you belong, you are valued here and we will protect you. 20 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 4: Terrorism is designed to divide us it is designed to 21 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 4: turn us against each other. It's designed to create more polarization. 22 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 4: The terrorist attacks are nothing to do with immigration. They 23 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 4: are terrorist attacks and they should always be called out 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 4: as exactly that. That kind of hatefulness should never be 25 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 4: confused with any legitimate debates that are taking place around 26 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 4: world events. They should never be blamed on anyone other 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: than the people who did them, which are the terrorists. 28 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 5: We condemn the murder of fifteen innocent people. A child, parents, friends, partners, 29 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 5: human beings practicing their faith and their values. It is 30 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 5: the work of us here on earth to build that 31 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,639 Speaker 5: real safety. This means understand that all of our fate 32 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 5: on this little planet is interconnected, mister speaker. We need 33 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 5: each other more than that we are each other, and 34 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 5: that is the light that we must carry into the darkness. 35 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: Well, what about the from the River to the Sea. 36 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 2: You mentioned that. 37 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: Chloe s Warbrick has been name checked. Of course, sir, 38 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: ever since this massacre broke out. Were terrible, but there 39 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: wasn't a Palestinian scarf on any of the Greens backs 40 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: today and they made sure of that, and the MP 41 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: stood for a minute silence out of respect for the 42 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: people that were killed in the massacre. 43 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: Oh that's nice, that's good to hear. Right, our treasuries 44 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: we had the hayfu come out, and the growth is 45 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: and well not great. I mean it gets there, but 46 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: not great now, and debt levels rising in the short 47 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: term all. 48 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: I think the government spent a lot of time talking 49 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: this down, didn't they. Nichola Willis did so we weren't 50 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: expecting great things, but and we knew I think that 51 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: the surplus would be pushed out another year, so you know, 52 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: it's about what we thought would happen today. And I 53 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: looked at the debt levels of other countries compared to GDP, 54 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: and of course New Zealand is actually at the lower 55 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: end in terms of the forty forty five percent, and 56 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: look at Australia's it's higher than ours, and most other 57 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: countries in the OECD are as well. So even though 58 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: the figures sound big in New Zealand, when you look 59 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: internationally they are pretty reasonable. Really. The debate on the 60 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: economy spilled over into the House this afternoon, with the 61 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: argument coming down to the cost of a marmite sandwich, 62 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: something Chris Luxon said kids should have in their school 63 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: lunch along with an apple. Here they are with the 64 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: last question coming from David Seymour. 65 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 4: Is it cheaper or more expensive now to make a 66 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: marmite sandwich than it was at the beginning of this year? 67 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: Or the good news is that food inflation, as that 68 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: member will have seen, has fallen to four point four 69 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: percent today. It's a third month in a row. It's 70 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: come down and it's a hell of a lot lower 71 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: than what it was at twelve and a half percent 72 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: under that Prime Minister. 73 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 4: Is he not aware that the price of buying a 74 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 4: loaf of bread is up fifty percent in just the 75 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 4: last year. The price of a mar Might sandwich is 76 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 4: significantly more expensive than it was when he told parents 77 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 4: to go out and buy marmite and bread and butter 78 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 4: and make their kids a sandwich. Oh my goodness, Oh 79 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 4: my goodness. 80 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 3: I love the way that the member has got an 81 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 3: analysis on the cost of a mum Might sandwich but 82 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: actually couldn't work out where sixty six billion dollars that 83 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: he spent during COVID went gotn't even be bothered to 84 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: show up to a COVID inquiry. 85 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 6: Can the Prime Minister confirm that the Government's healthy school 86 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 6: lunch program is being done for half the price that 87 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 6: it was done under the previous government, with the same 88 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 6: return rate for the meals. And doesn't it seem strange 89 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 6: that labours say they want cheaper food, but when we 90 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 6: give it to them they don't want that either. 91 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: Good point the last, and it's white bread, isn't it's 92 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: up forty five, that's right, so you could step by 93 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: the brown, but it's probably just as expensive. Barry, thank 94 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 2: you very much for that. Good to see you. As 95 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 2: always Barry's Super News Talks. They'd be senior political correspondent. 96 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 3: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. 97 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 4: Listen live to News Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, 98 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.