1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: The police have confirmed that they will start reducing the 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: number of mental health callouts that they attend, and it's 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: going to start happening from November. They're still going to 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: go to call outs that have an immediate threatening element 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: to life and safety, but everything else has now got 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: to be dealt with by more appropriate services. The Minister 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: for Mental Health Mat Doosie is with us. 8 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 2: Hey, Matt, morning, oh afternoon, Heather. 9 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Yes, a long day, obviously long day, Matt. 10 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 3: Who are these more appropriate services? 11 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? I just want to correct here bit the Heather. 12 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: The change from a police lead triple one mental health 13 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: crisis call out response to a multi agency response is 14 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: a larger program of work, a three to five year 15 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 2: program between police and health. What we've announced today is 16 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: a change in mental health response change program that kicks 17 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: off on the first of November, and there's some specific 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: changes or rebalancing. So, for instance, the first thing to 19 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: be focused on is when police bring in are people 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: in mental health crisis for voluntary assessment. So the first 21 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: piece of work is just streamlining that process with a 22 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 2: ned that through the streamlining will prioritize those patients, which 23 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: will allow police to go back out onto the beat 24 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 2: a lot quicker. So what we've done is set out 25 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: some key tasks over about an eight month period where 26 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: we'll change the thresholds on some very specific activities. But 27 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: just be very clear police will be responding. I want 28 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: to thank them for the great work. But the wider 29 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 2: view is clearly, when you have a mental health crisis 30 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: calling up one one one, you should get a mental 31 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: health response, not a criminal justice response. 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: No totally. But who does this mental health response? 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: Well, what we're moving towards is what called a multi 34 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: agency response. And the reason we call it that is 35 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: primarily when you are in a mental health distress crisis. 36 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: If there is a risk to the individual or safety 37 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: of others, clearly police will respond, but in a mental 38 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: health crisis, it could be better for what we're calling 39 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: a co response team, which is pairing up mental health 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: professionals and police. But what's interesting in the data matching 41 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: that we're doing in the first year, when police are 42 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: coding what's called one M calls for mental health, that's 43 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: become a catch all. So what's happening now is some 44 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: people are calling up Triple one because of loneliness, relationship breakdown, 45 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: financial pressures, and clearly that could be a specific social 46 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 2: response in itself. So that's why we're building up the 47 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: picture to ultimately move to a multi agency response. 48 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So am I right in thinking that from what 49 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: you're telling me, we are still years away from when 50 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: you see somebody walking down the road causing trouble and 51 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: you're worried about them and it's obviously a mental health crisis. 52 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 3: We are still years away from not calling the cops. 53 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: At the moment, we still continue to call the cops. 54 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, So myself and Mark Mitchell took a paper on 55 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: this to Pabnet in about May. Will be reporting back 56 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: at the end of the year, and because of issues 57 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 2: like mental health workforce development, that will be a significant 58 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: piece of work from three to five years. But if 59 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: you look at what's been announced today for the first 60 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 2: of November, there'll be streamlining of processes in the ED 61 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: for voluntary mental health assessments. There'll be a higher threshold 62 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: forward transportation of mental health patients, specifically within mental health facility. 63 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: So these are some of the smaller areas that we 64 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: can assist police to get back on the beat. But 65 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: the wider issue you talk about is a three to 66 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 2: five year plan. 67 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: Good stuff, Matt, thank you very much. Really appreciate this. 68 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: Matt Doocy O the Minister for Mental Health. 69 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, Listen live to 70 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 71 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio