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Speaker 1: Tough on power, sharp on insight.

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Speaker 2: Heather Duplessy Allen on the mic Hosking Breakfast were the defender,

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Speaker 2: embraced the impossible news, togs dead, be.

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Speaker 3: Morning and welcome to the last show of the year.

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Speaker 3: How good was that GDP number? Yes, thatd AQ three

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Speaker 3: up one point one percent? Is it on form of

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Speaker 3: Associate Finance Minister Richard Prebble with us after seven you

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Speaker 3: are not going to believe the number of kids assaulting

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Speaker 3: other kids and teachers and schools will speak to a

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Speaker 3: principle a former glory of our resident on how long

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Speaker 3: it's going to take before Glory of l shuts down

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Speaker 3: completely without a school We have the request to keep

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Speaker 3: funding that slow train from Hamilton to Auckland. I mean

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Speaker 3: Tim and Carey will do the week that was.

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Speaker 1: For the last time this year, Heather Duperssy Allen.

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Speaker 3: Well, how good is it to end the year the

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Speaker 3: mic Hosking Breakfast show for the year with the good

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Speaker 3: news that next year is increasingly looking like the year

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Speaker 3: that we will finally be out of recession and into

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Speaker 3: the growth. The GDP number out yesterday confirmed it It was

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Speaker 3: better than expected, came in at one point one percent.

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Speaker 3: That was better than any economist was packing. It was

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Speaker 3: almost three times better than the Resis Bank had predicted.

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Speaker 3: The quarter that we're in at the moment is looking good.

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Speaker 3: Much of the recent economic data is looking good. Consumer

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Speaker 3: job listings are up, manufacturing orders are up. Retail spending

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Speaker 3: The services sector is still contracting. That should be a worry. Yes,

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Speaker 3: and yes, house price growth is basically not even worth mentioning.

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Speaker 3: But enough is lining up for us to feel like

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty six might actually finally usher in the start

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Speaker 3: of something good, good enough for HSBC to predict that

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Speaker 3: our growth will outstrip Australia's and then do we deserve this?

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Speaker 3: It has been tough pat yourself on the back for

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Speaker 3: stumbling to the point that we're at, because this has

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Speaker 3: been the toughest recession in decades, harder than the GFC

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Speaker 3: buy a lot. We've lost businesses, we've lost family and

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Speaker 3: friends to Australia. We've lost a lot of money, and

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Speaker 3: without being glib. What doesn't break you makes you stronger.

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Speaker 3: So my hope for twenty twenty six is that this

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Speaker 1: News of the world in ninety seconds.

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Speaker 3: So Zelensky is looking to secure fresh funding before the

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Speaker 3: Prime Minister Donald Tusker looking to see where the frozen

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Speaker 4: Either money today or blood tomorrow. And I am not

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Speaker 4: talking about Ukraine on I'm talking about Europe. And this

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Speaker 4: is our decision to make and only ours.

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Speaker 3: No surprise, Zelensky quite likes the idea.

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Speaker 5: Money is needed so that Russia and anybody else in

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Speaker 5: the world does not use these Russian assets as a

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Speaker 1: We want these assets so.

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Speaker 5: That it is not a part of the negotiation.

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Speaker 3: In the UK, the Bank of England has made their

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Speaker 6: It's welcome news for families and businesses. What it means

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Kostama is launching a plan to lower violence among

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Speaker 6: This is a real priority for the government and a

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Speaker 1: I'm determined that.

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Speaker 3: We're going to har violence against women and girls.

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Speaker 7: Really difficult to do.

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Speaker 8: I know that they know that, but we are absolutely

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Speaker 1: The truth has been revealed.

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Speaker 3: They want to change the regime in Venezuela to impose

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Speaker 3: And in the entertainment, the British Actors Union is looking

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Speaker 9: Offering US protections won by our sister union sag AFTRA

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Speaker 9: in the United States. I'm not appropriate for jurisdiction in

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Speaker 3: And finally, Facebook is going down the monetization route in

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Speaker 3: get off Facebook because it's a waste to get time now.

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Speaker 3: Either the Australians are tetchy or bond I was about

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Speaker 3: to have another problem yesterday. Late last night our time,

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Speaker 3: it's quarter past six. Breg Smith of Generators with us

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Speaker 3: Morning Greg. How good was that GDP number?

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Speaker 10: Boom, we are back, aren't we hear? GDP in a

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Speaker 10: September quarter one? Great to hear and episode. That's a

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Speaker 10: fourteen of sixteen industries grew in the core. That's complete

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Speaker 10: reversal from mid year when most sectors were going backwards.

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Speaker 10: Manufacturing it was one of the stars. It was up

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Speaker 10: that economic rebounders is getting momentum with businesses wasn't al rosy.

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Speaker 10: Information media and telecoms that fell two point one percent. Also,

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Speaker 10: but yeah, generally very positive story. And GDP PHO capital

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Speaker 10: an annual basis, our economy is one point three percent

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Speaker 10: bigger than this time last year, so still down half

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Speaker 10: But we are on the improved for sure, and as

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Speaker 10: are looking really good. So one point one percent quarterly

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Speaker 10: certainly looking a lot rosy, Heather, And yeah, twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, although coming off a low base, but we will

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Speaker 3: take what we can take. Now on the AI, does

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Speaker 3: over excited with the bubble talk?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we had us talk to me about the bubble.

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Speaker 10: Was it a boom? Is it a bust? But yeah,

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Speaker 10: they were really strong. So the shares have swored eleven percent.

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Speaker 10: laying the groundwork for a hike rather than a cart

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Speaker 10: and markets will see it happening late next year. And

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Speaker 3: Greg Smith from Generate Wealth and Key We Save a

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Speaker 3: Now for decades, anything to do with the name Sherlock

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Speaker 3: Now you know this is going to be good because

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Speaker 2: Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, Doing real estate

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Speaker 3: That'd be morning, Heather. Are you aware that Peter Arnett

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Speaker 3: of course from Riveton, twenty three away from seven. So

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Speaker 3: the eight billion dollar Ye North mine is going ahead.

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Speaker 3: It's just gained consent via the fast Tracked program to

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Speaker 3: A good morning, have now I heard you're describing this

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Speaker 13: We still drill and we're given that the hy he

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Speaker 3: Fantastic. So you're investing is it a bill into this?

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Speaker 13: One billion dollars of capital to get it going? That

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Speaker 3: So you've got approval for this in about one hundred

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Speaker 3: Are you happy with us?

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Speaker 13: I think New Zealand has the best development permitting system

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Speaker 13: Our application was substantial, We did a lot of work.

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Speaker 13: Well, New Zealand leapt up the mining attractiveness index in

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Speaker 3: That's great. Do you think that it's I mean part

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Speaker 13: Well, we have tremendous support where we mine from local

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Jared, listen, beast of luck with it. I

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Speaker 3: Right, So what could probably be described as the first

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Speaker 14: And let me say first off, Peter Arnette, courageous reporter

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Speaker 14: to two point seven percent, and they White House is

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Speaker 14: hailing that, but the poll showed Americans not feeling it.

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Speaker 14: Trump's approval on handling the economy is down to historic

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Speaker 14: lows around thirty six percent. The new inflation number also

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Speaker 14: is a tentative figure because of that government's shutdown, which

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Speaker 14: meant there was no inflation report for last October into

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Speaker 14: Miar November. As well, the unemployment rate is climbing to

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Speaker 14: a four year high at four point six percent, So

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Speaker 14: that's a worry. Last night, President Trump was blaming his

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Speaker 14: predecessor Biden, repeatedly saying this theirfare.

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Speaker 15: It is not the Republican's fault, it's the Democrat's.

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Speaker 14: Fault, blaming Biden even as we are, what more than

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Speaker 14: a year into this second Trump term. Well, what the

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Speaker 14: White House is seeing are the polls which show that

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Speaker 14: fifty seven percent disapproved of Trump's handling of the economy,

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Speaker 14: the main issue on which he won reelection. Democrats are

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Speaker 14: slightly more favored on that subject, although they're also struggling

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Speaker 14: in the polls. Meantime, the start of January is going

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Speaker 14: to see the end of the healthcare subsidies the triggered

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Speaker 14: that shutdown of the government. Those subsidies are set to

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Speaker 14: are putting healthcare and jeopardy for more than twenty million

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Speaker 14: Americans who are going to see their health costs spiral

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Speaker 14: by insane amounts. Four Republicans now have rebelled against their

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Speaker 14: own party. They're in difficult seats. They've agreed to a

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Speaker 14: vote on the Democrats plan to renew the subsidies. For

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Speaker 14: Times says, why everybody recognizes the fact that there needs

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Speaker 14: to be an extension, there needs to be reformed. So

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Speaker 14: that battle will play out in early January, meaning the

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Speaker 14: political fight will be even more intense at the started

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Speaker 14: next year. While back in the White House, Donald Trump,

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Speaker 14: real estate Officionado design specialist has been redoing the hallway

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Speaker 14: that links the White House to the West Wing. He

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Speaker 14: has put hi a Presidential Walk of Fame, kind of

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Speaker 14: like the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

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Speaker 16: Folks.

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Speaker 14: This has portraits of all the past presidents, and now

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Speaker 14: Trump has added descriptions under goldleaf doodles and frames and baubles,

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Speaker 14: the gold stuff that Trump loves so much. It seems

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Speaker 14: that Trump himself helped to write some of these pliques.

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Speaker 14: The one for Biden reads quote sleepy Joe by far

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Speaker 14: the worst president and American history. For Obama at reads

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Speaker 14: quote one of the most divisive political figures ever. And

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Speaker 14: for Reagan and suggests that Reagan was a big fan

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Speaker 14: of Yes, the young Donald Trump. So if the Nobel

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Speaker 14: Prize people ignore him, at least he ends the year

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Speaker 14: with the soccer Piece Prize and his own self styled

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Speaker 14: account of just how great he is.

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Speaker 3: Listen, what happened with this car that drove into the

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Speaker 3: water in Chicago.

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Speaker 14: Well, it's the holiday, it's the party season for three

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Speaker 14: dudes in Chicago was almost the last hurrah. The driver

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Speaker 14: who's now been charged with being drunk at the wheel

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Speaker 14: of his vehicle slammed into a frozen lake near Chicago.

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Speaker 14: This is early morning, just after one am. They crashed

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Speaker 14: into the pond. When rescuers got there, the currge sunker

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Speaker 14: was about ten meters I'm sure it was emerged four

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Speaker 14: meters under the ice. This wasn't looking good, says responding

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Speaker 14: officer Mark Lomi Bao of the scene.

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Speaker 17: His life or death, and we both decided to choose

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Speaker 17: life and we're not going to let anything happen on

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Speaker 17: our end.

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Speaker 14: Well, he's referring to himself and his partner, Dennis Takura.

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Speaker 14: The three passengers really were struggling to get out of

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Speaker 14: their sunken cars.

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Speaker 1: Dennis, we started to see, you know, people's hands in

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Speaker 1: the water. We're reaching out for air or for just

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Speaker 1: a stale flow.

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Speaker 14: They use shovels and whatever else they could find to

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Speaker 14: reach out, and as their body cams recorded everything. It

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Speaker 14: wasn't an easy process, that's for sure. So yeah, these

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Speaker 14: hero rescuers got them out with the three party goers

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Speaker 14: treated for any minor injuries. So stay safe during the

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Speaker 14: holidays people, I tell you what.

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Speaker 3: Richard, thank you very much, and Merry Christmas to you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for all of the hard work through the year.

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Speaker 3: That's Richard Arnold our US correspondent. More Epstein files and

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Speaker 3: photos have just been released. Now, the most interesting, I

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Speaker 3: use that word very loosely, but the most interesting of

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Speaker 3: them is photos of a woman, or at least photos

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Speaker 3: of parts of a woman's body, like, for example, her

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Speaker 3: ankle or her clavicle, or her arm or whatever. And

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Speaker 3: written across these parts of the body are quotes from

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Speaker 3: the novel Lolita. Now, if you know the novel Lolita,

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Speaker 3: it's grim because it is an academic. It's a story

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Speaker 3: about an academic's inappropriate relationship with Lolita, who was a child.

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Speaker 3: So you know, put that together with Epstein and you

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Speaker 3: get the picture. Anyway, Apart from that, which is a

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Speaker 3: bit weird, it's pretty underwhelming. There's nothing incriminating in it.

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Speaker 3: It's just grim stuff. So once again I think you

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Speaker 3: can describe the release of Epstein photos is just a

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Speaker 3: bit dull. Eleven Away from seven Heather Dupaic.

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Speaker 1: Ellen on the my casking, Breakfast with the Defender and

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Speaker 1: used togs dead b.

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Speaker 3: Heather on the mining. If we worry about people leaving

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Speaker 3: for Australia, where do they think it gets its wealth?

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Speaker 3: It's mining. It's a fair point. But look, increasingly we

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Speaker 3: may too, So fingers crossed. Now, it will be not

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Speaker 3: at all surprising to you if you've been following what's

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Speaker 3: going on with Netball that the CEO, Jenny Wiley resigned yesterday.

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Speaker 3: That had to happen. I mean the minute that Dame

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Speaker 3: Knowles came back, it had to happen that Jenny Wiley

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Speaker 3: had to go because it was impossible for the two

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Speaker 3: of them to be in the same building. How could

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Speaker 3: you possibly have the woman who, basically, I don't want

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Speaker 3: to be unfair to Jenny Wiley, but Jenny made the

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Speaker 3: decisions that were necessary or that she felt were necessary

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Speaker 3: around the process and whatever. She basically created the situation

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Speaker 3: that led to Dame Noles having to stand down. Right,

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Speaker 3: So if she's made all the decisions leading to that,

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Speaker 3: how can you bring Dame Noles back and then be like, oh,

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Speaker 3: you two have to get on now. It was just

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Speaker 3: never gonna happen. But also bigger than that, the Bay

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Speaker 3: of Plenty zone was coming after her with that vote

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Speaker 3: that it wanted. And then you know, as well as that,

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Speaker 3: you had all the broadcast problems and the difficulty with

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Speaker 3: our domestic league. I mean netwill couldn't even get somebody

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Speaker 3: in Tally to put Netbule on Tally without Netbule having

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Speaker 3: to pay TV and Z to do it. So there

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Speaker 3: were lots of questions about the way Jenny WHILEY was

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Speaker 3: running the place she always had to leave. The question now,

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Speaker 3: of course, is whether the board is safe because the

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Speaker 3: board were all involved in this as well. Everything that's

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Speaker 3: going on is the CEO and the board. They may

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Speaker 3: have saved themselves by sacrificing Jenny. I guess. Unfortunately, only

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Speaker 3: time will tell. Hard to predict, but we'll get you

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Speaker 3: across this to half past seven. It's six away from

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Speaker 3: seven right now.

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Speaker 1: All the ins and the outs.

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Speaker 2: It's the FIZ with business fiber, take your business productivity.

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Speaker 1: To the next level.

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Speaker 3: So the UK is now officially the only country to

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Speaker 3: still be forging ahead with its sell only electric cars plan. Currently,

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Speaker 3: the rule that the UK has set is that eighty

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Speaker 3: percent of all car sales must be electric by twenty

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Speaker 3: thirty and this is as part of their big goal

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Speaker 3: to be net zero by twenty thirty five. The EU,

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Speaker 3: of course, you will remember, had the same goals except

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Speaker 3: in Brussels. This week officials proposed watering it down. So

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Speaker 3: now instead of casting emissions from new cars by one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent by twenty thirty five. The target will be

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Speaker 3: ninety percent by twenty thirty five. Now, while that doesn't

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Speaker 3: seem like a massive difference, it is entirely achievable based

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Speaker 3: on what we know about even trying to get above

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Speaker 3: the ninety five percent threshold here in New Zealand. The

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Speaker 3: Birmingham Business School and Global Society of Mobile Motor Manufacturing

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Speaker 3: both say that Britain needs to weigh up the global

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Speaker 3: context or risk ruining their industry and creating financial struggles

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Speaker 3: for a citizens. And if you've been following what's going

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Speaker 3: on in the UK, you know all it's going to

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Speaker 3: take is a change in government and the UK will

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Speaker 3: follow suit because the Tories are already promising that morning, Heather,

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Speaker 3: should we all be replacing our gas hobs and water

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Speaker 3: for electricity? Actually, very good question and serendipitous question from you, Monica.

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Speaker 3: So I was had a thing the other night and

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Speaker 3: I was talking to a I won't say who, but

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Speaker 3: it was the CEO of one of the big big

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Speaker 3: electricity businesses here in New Zealand. And I asked exactly

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Speaker 3: this question, as somebody who does have the gas coming

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Speaker 3: out of the stove at the moment, as I said

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Speaker 3: to this person, do we all need to do the switch?

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Speaker 3: And he said no, because because it's really the big

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Speaker 3: users who are the ones who's stuffed by the lack

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Speaker 3: of gas. Right, so you're thinking about the likes of

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Speaker 3: meth and X, And then Spira thought, for all the

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Speaker 3: guys who are trying to like warm hot houses and

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Speaker 3: stuff like that using gas. If you're just using gas domestically,

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Speaker 3: you're probably okay for a wee bit. It's gonna get

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Speaker 3: price yer, but it's not that pricing. Converting from gas

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Speaker 3: to electricity is mind blowing expensive. You do not want

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Speaker 3: to do that. And I guarantee you at some stage that,

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Speaker 3: given that it's New Zealand, whatever government's in there is

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Speaker 3: going to come out with a grant like we did

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Speaker 3: for oh, do you need to insulate your house, here's

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Speaker 3: some thousands of dollars for you. They'll do that. They'll go,

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Speaker 3: here's some thousands of dollars for you to convert away

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Speaker 3: from gas. So I would say just wait for that,

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Speaker 3: because that's inevitable. But what he said you can do

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Speaker 3: is for a much smaller price, you can convert from

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Speaker 3: mains gas into bottle gas, so you could get ye

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Speaker 3: LPG bottle instead, and that is a bit of a fath.

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Speaker 3: The German who works with me on drive has that.

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Speaker 3: My mum has that at her house and they're running

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Speaker 3: out of gas every now and because you know there'll

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Speaker 3: be a husband who forgets to order the gas and

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Speaker 3: or some boring thing like that. That's an issue, but

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Speaker 3: it's cheaper and it's probably the way to go here

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Speaker 3: that you need to get with the times and get

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Speaker 3: an air fryer. And look, I know everybody raves about

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Speaker 3: an air fry but an air fryer is a It's

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Speaker 3: a concession, isn't it. I mean, it's probably smart, but

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Speaker 3: it's the kind of thing that you do when you

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Speaker 3: have children. It's unique to families with children. It's like

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you start eating thousands of sausages

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Speaker 3: and you get an air fryer. And I don't know

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Speaker 3: that I'm quite be yet in time. Anyway, the GDP data,

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Speaker 3: we're going to discuss that next with Richard Prebble. And

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Speaker 3: then also the number of kids smashing each other at

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Speaker 3: school and then smashing the teachers is getting up quite high,

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Speaker 3: so We'll talk to the principle of Darfield and find

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Speaker 3: out what we need to do to stop these kids

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Speaker 3: from being so angry. News talks hed be.

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Speaker 2: Credible, compelling, The Breakfast show you can't bess It's hither

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Speaker 2: Duplessy Allen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Vita, Retirement Communities,

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Speaker 2: Life Your Way, News Talks, head bod.

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Speaker 3: Morning to you. So we have some good economic news

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Speaker 3: to round out the year. GDP grew one point one

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Speaker 3: percent in Q three, which is close to three times

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Speaker 3: what the Reserve Bank was packing. Growth was broad based

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Speaker 3: as well, with fourteen of sixteen industries up, including manufacturing

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Speaker 3: and construction. Richard Preble is a former Associate Finance Minister

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Speaker 3: and with US morning, Richard, good morning. Are you taking

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Speaker 3: heart from this going into next year?

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Speaker 18: I most certainly am. Actually both US quarters turn out

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Speaker 18: to be good news. The negative quarter of one percent

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Speaker 18: out to be just a bit, but that persuaded the

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Speaker 18: Reserve Bank to stop smashing the economy with high interest rates.

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Speaker 18: Don't know what else would have. But September is basically,

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Speaker 18: how can I put it, ancient history. What we want

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Speaker 18: to know is what's happening now, and there are other

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Speaker 18: indicators that indicate that we've had six months of growth

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Speaker 18: and we're ending the year strongly.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, at the moment, it sounds like we

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Speaker 3: zero point four percent growth. Is that good enough?

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Speaker 18: No, I think we're doing better than that. What I

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Speaker 18: think We've got a very good world leading indicator of

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Speaker 18: how the economy is going. That's Massy University's TDP Live

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Speaker 18: off the Wolf and other contemporary data to give a

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Speaker 18: daily figure of how the economy is growing. And right

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Speaker 18: now it says the economy is growing nearly one percent

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Speaker 18: and has been for the last six months. And while

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Speaker 18: it's not spectacular, that's still solid growth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fantastic. Okay. So the thing about it is, though,

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're getting are we at risk of perhaps

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Speaker 3: getting ahead of our skis on these numbers? Because next

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Speaker 3: year we still have unemployment that is high and ticking up,

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Speaker 3: We've still got the election that we need to face,

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Speaker 3: which always cool spending. We've still got a whole bunch

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Speaker 3: of stuff that isn't doing too well a year.

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Speaker 18: But if we employments was the last indicator, and the

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Speaker 18: Department statistics, you know, it's very historic, so you have

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Speaker 18: to go back months to look at their at their figures.

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Speaker 18: It's better to look at job advertising and there's a

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Speaker 18: major site seek and it's up seven percent. That would

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Speaker 18: indicate that employments will SOFT is actually heading in the

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Speaker 18: is now heading in the right direction.

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Speaker 3: Now, Richard, I want to get your take on this

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Speaker 3: debate about Nichola Willis needing to trim more fat out

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Speaker 3: of the books. Are you in the camp of keep

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Speaker 3: spending the money to avoid human misery or cut to

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Speaker 3: save the books.

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Speaker 18: I'm in the I'm in the cut. The government's got

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Speaker 18: heaps of waste and very poor spending and could have

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Speaker 18: easily taken out another couple of billion. But this is

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Speaker 18: what I would say in Nichola Willis's defense. The government

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Speaker 18: again is a is a lag so we have to

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Speaker 18: earn them and then we pay the taxes. So if

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Speaker 18: we've had a year of not good growth, then the

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Speaker 18: government's own tax revenues haven't been growing. But if the

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Speaker 18: economy keeps going it the way it's going, then the

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Speaker 18: government's books will improve significantly. And I'll say this about

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Speaker 18: treasury productions. Treasury always gets it wrong, so it underestimates

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Speaker 18: how bad things are going to be, and then it

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Speaker 18: underestimates how good things are going to be. I think

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Speaker 18: there's every indication that twenty twenty six will be a

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Speaker 18: very good year. And interestingly, a net twenty one percent

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Speaker 18: of us according to the Morgan Pole, also think that.

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Speaker 18: And I'm I'm with the masses. Twenty twenty six should

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Speaker 18: be a good year.

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Speaker 3: God, I'm so pleased to hear it. Richard, thank you

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Speaker 3: very much, Look after you, suth. Richard Prebble, former Associate

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Speaker 3: Finance Minister, eleven past seven.

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Speaker 1: Duplessy el So.

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Speaker 3: New data out shows increasing violence in our schools. By

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Speaker 3: December the fifth, there had been twelve three hundred and

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Speaker 3: forty six standdowns, suspensions or expulsions this year for physical assault,

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Speaker 3: and that's up nearly fifty percent on twenty nineteen. Andy

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Speaker 3: England is Darfield High School principle. Then with US High

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Speaker 3: Andy Well, Nona hew Head, what is going on here

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Speaker 3: that the kids can't regulate their emotions?

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Speaker 19: Well, that's a big question. But I think we have

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Speaker 19: to remember that violence has always been with us. It's

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Speaker 19: not a new phenomenon. There are anecdotically, I'd say I've

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Speaker 19: seen changes in the nature of it, few big fights,

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Speaker 19: more disregulated sort of tantrums and lashing out.

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Speaker 3: And what's causing that.

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Speaker 19: There's a known increase in neurodiversity. I can't say that's

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Speaker 19: all of it, of course, I think society has become

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Speaker 19: a bit less tolerance, and that's got part of it

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Speaker 19: as well. Schools are quite tense place at that time.

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Speaker 19: But the neurodiverse is really interesting one because I certainly

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Speaker 19: haven't seen the researchers why it's increasing, but certainly classrooms

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Speaker 19: would seem to be quite neurodiverse places that day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, is it possible, Andy that it

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Speaker 3: is a result of the kind of parenting that we

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Speaker 3: are increasingly doing at the moment, which is gentle instead

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Speaker 3: of you know, full of consequences.

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Speaker 19: As far as I can tell, that the consequence of

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Speaker 19: violent behaf parenting is actually more violent kids. So it's

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Speaker 19: certainly neglecting parenting very much so so parents who leieve

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Speaker 19: kids in front of devices as opposed to engaging with them.

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Speaker 19: That's very much part of problems.

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Speaker 8: That we see.

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Speaker 19: And then you can't rule out the cliche thing we

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Speaker 19: seems like we blame it all the time, but devices

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Speaker 19: are a problem, and there are social media trends around violence,

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Speaker 19: and they would spark some of the more sort of

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Speaker 19: more organized fights at times and the more organized assaults

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Speaker 19: that we've seen. But in terms of their actual lashing

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Speaker 19: out type behavior, you can't rule out exposure to violence

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Speaker 19: and making it seem acceptable. But yeah, certainly that the

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Speaker 19: neglect of kids. Most of your ned neurodiversity in schools

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Speaker 19: is where kids are struggle to manage their emotions and feelings,

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Speaker 19: and there are some glimmers of hope there are some

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Speaker 19: things we can.

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Speaker 3: Do about it, like taking the devices away.

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Speaker 19: Well, yeah, that helps, but I mean it's not if

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Speaker 19: you're just take them away in school. It's only sort

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Speaker 19: of one third of the problem, isn't it. And I'd

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Speaker 19: fad to say less than that because most of the

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Speaker 19: problems happened at one o'clock in the morning, when they're

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Speaker 19: nowhere near us. No, I mean more things like the

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Speaker 19: setting a culture in the school of tolerance and number understanding,

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Speaker 19: but also support having teachers well informed. But the argument

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Speaker 19: from some I think was a union about having teach

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Speaker 19: trades and classes, an expensive solution, but a very amazing

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Speaker 19: solution if we could achieve that. Certainly there are things

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Speaker 19: at the other end, like services academies, which we've only

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Speaker 19: got twenty eight I believe of them in the country.

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Speaker 19: They're amazing for students who have violent tendencies, removing them

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Speaker 19: from mainstream classes were given them a very purposeful existence

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Speaker 19: where their tendencies are to be violent.

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Speaker 8: Dropped down.

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Speaker 3: All right, Andy, thank you appreciate it. That's Andy England

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Speaker 3: Darfield High School principle.

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Speaker 1: Give a loop for cl and might come back to that.

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Speaker 3: Actually, that's quite an interesting discussion, is it. Listen, these

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Speaker 3: are sign This is a sign of how much trouble

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Speaker 3: Albanezi is in in the wake of the Bondi massacre

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Speaker 3: for not doing enough to confront anti Semitism and the

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Speaker 3: lead up to it. He has now admitted that he

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Speaker 3: could have done more. He regrets not having done more,

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Speaker 3: and he says anyone in this position would regret not

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Speaker 3: doing more. But he appears to even now still be

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Speaker 3: stuffing it up because from what I can see, they've

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Speaker 3: had obviously a whole bunch of the funerals. I can't

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Speaker 3: find any record he's been to any of them, and

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Speaker 3: he's coping criticism for it. Quarter past the Mike.

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Speaker 2: Asking Breakfast Fall Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard By News

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Speaker 2: talks at be.

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Speaker 3: Heather. I work in a primary school as a teacher,

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Speaker 3: ade and you've nailed that the behavior of the five

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Speaker 3: and six year olds is atrocious and when you meet

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Speaker 3: the parents you wonder why eighteen past seven now on schools.

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Speaker 3: There is a big development in the Glory of ol case,

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Speaker 3: which is that the Secretary of Education has canceled Glory

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Speaker 3: of Our Christian School's license, effectively closing it down from

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Speaker 3: twenty three January next year. Liz Gregory is the founder

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Speaker 3: of the Glory of Our Leavers Trust Morning, Lisz.

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Speaker 20: Good morning.

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Speaker 3: Is this good because it starts the process of making

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Speaker 3: it hard to live in Gloriavale? Or is this bad

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Speaker 3: because it's the kids who get punished?

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Speaker 1: First?

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Speaker 20: Oh, look, I think this is a positive step. The

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Speaker 20: ministry has made a courageous decision that the children actually

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Speaker 20: matter since the school at Laureville was a cornerstone of

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Speaker 20: their community. I guess a device for entreatment and isolation

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Speaker 20: which was consessed by leaders in the employment court hearing.

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Speaker 20: So this is only a positive step forward.

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Speaker 3: So what's most likely to happen here. Are these kids

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Speaker 3: going to be homeschooled by their parents or are they

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Speaker 3: going to get sent to public schools outside nearby?

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Speaker 20: Yeah, a lot of people think homeschooling will be their

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Speaker 20: next option. But last week every family who are homeschooling

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Speaker 20: failed in Glory Vale. They failed their AERO review, and

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Speaker 20: so that's clearly a signal that the homeschooling isn't working either.

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Speaker 20: I doubt they'll jump onto correspondent schooling to KUDA because

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Speaker 20: they don't need to meet the criteria for that. So

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Speaker 20: I assume that state school integration is going to be

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Speaker 20: the option, although we would strongly suggest them have that

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Speaker 20: a harb or transition programs are set up thereby various

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Speaker 20: buildings are added to other school sites potentially, and that

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Speaker 20: it's the carefully supported process and it will toss money,

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Speaker 20: but these kids are.

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Speaker 3: Worth it, Okay. So this was always going to be

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Speaker 3: the first step that any government would take in order

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Speaker 3: to start putting the pressure on Gloria L What's the next.

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Speaker 20: One, obviously the announcement of a deregistration of their charity.

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Speaker 20: I've been anticipating that will be before Christmas, and that

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Speaker 20: was signal to Gloriavale in July and they objected to

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Speaker 20: it and have had healed hearings, and so I expect

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Speaker 20: that's the next step. They do have various leavers on

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Speaker 20: offer for them, but all government successive ones over fifty

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Speaker 20: years have been very reluctant to pull those around child safety.

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Speaker 20: And yeah, we would say that things need to be

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Speaker 20: done carefully and with survivor input. The people that left

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Speaker 20: Gloriaval are actually the experts on how people in there

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Speaker 20: think and they must be at the table sitting there

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Speaker 20: giving ideas and for how this can be done in

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Speaker 20: a really carefully tramer informed way.

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Speaker 3: Liz, thanks very much for your time. Liz Gregory are

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Speaker 3: the founder of the Glory of Our Leavers Trust. Heather,

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Speaker 3: my daughter is a teacher. The local schools didn't find

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Speaker 3: out about the closure of Glory of Our School until

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Speaker 3: an hour before the media. They won't know how many

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Speaker 3: kids they will get until January. It doesn't give them

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Speaker 3: much time to hire more teachers and get things organized. Brian,

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Speaker 3: I somehow feel I just have a sneaky suspicion not

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Speaker 3: that many kids are going to come out, so you know,

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Speaker 3: probably have nothing to worry about seven to twenty.

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Speaker 2: The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power

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Speaker 3: It's seven twenty three. Now it's that time of the year,

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Speaker 3: isn't it where we pick our politician of the year.

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Speaker 3: And for me, it's the same person that I picked

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Speaker 3: last year. Now, what I want to say is political commentators,

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Speaker 3: myself included, at times, have an unfortunate tendency to sometimes

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Speaker 3: choose politicians because the politicians are good at playing the

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Speaker 3: political game. And if you're into that kind of thing,

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Speaker 3: you might have picked this year that arterd. He might

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Speaker 3: be Clark because she collected her Time magaz Time Magazine

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Speaker 3: Award this year. You might pack Chris Hopkins because he's

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Speaker 3: resurrected his party's fortunes from a horror twenty twenty three

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Speaker 3: election result. Maybe Ardena Williams from Labor for giving good speeches,

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Speaker 3: or Shane Jones for getting attention. But at a time

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Speaker 3: when we all acknowledge that our country is in a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a poly crisis, slipping further behind the pack,

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Speaker 3: I think the most important measure is not actually whether

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Speaker 3: a politician is good at politics. It's whether a politician

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Speaker 3: is making an actual difference, and no other politician is

869
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Speaker 3: making as big a difference or as quickly in an

870
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 3: area as important as Erica Stanford is. Already, kids are

871
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 3: learning more than they have for years now. The results

872
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 3: from her phone exchanges just a couple of months ago

873
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 3: was so dramatic that a staff member in her office

874
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 3: burst into tears. She is doing this despite increasing resistance

875
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 3: from teachers' unions. Parents are raving about the changes that

876
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 3: they're seeing. Teachers themselves are noticing the difference. Nothing is

877
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 3: more important than our kids and educating our kids properly,

878
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: and on the politics, if that is your measure, She

879
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: can actually play politics as well as anyone. I mean,

880
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: you watch her closely, and you watch her opponents learn

881
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 3: the lesson of getting tangled up with Erica Stanford. Just

882
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: ask Willowjean Prime how that went. So Erica Stanford it is.

883
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: And again, because nothing beats having a good idea and

884
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 3: being brave enough to execute it and then helping to

885
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: turn this country around together. Do for se Ellen, So

886
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: I ask you this question, like, do you remember the

887
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 3: cold playcis Caam? Of course she remember the cold playis Caam.

888
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely everybody does. The woman at the center of the

889
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 3: Cold playcist Cam has now spoken out for the first

890
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 3: time to The New York Times about four or five

891
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 3: months after the thing has happened. She's she has she

892
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 3: reckons that she she had never been in a sexual

893
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 3: relationship with her boss until that night. She says before

894
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 3: that night, they'd never even kissed. She decided she was

895
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 3: breaking up from her husband. She says, it was very

896
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: new breaking up from the husband. Was going to go

897
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 3: and see Cold Play with some friends. Hadn't been out

898
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 3: for a very long time. She and the boss had

899
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 3: had started connecting with each other, and you know it

900
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 3: as always happens, she said, oh, my marriage is breaking up,

901
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 3: and he said, oh, my marriage is breaking up too.

902
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 3: You know how that thing happens. So then, of course,

903
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you know, so invited him out

904
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: and they went. They went into this like vip loungey

905
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: bit that they were in, and a had a couple

906
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 3: of tequilas, and before you know it, they're having a

907
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 3: smooch and then he was dancing and she put her

908
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 3: arms around him, and anyway, the rest is history. The

909
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 3: thing when I find people feel unexpected feelings when they

910
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 3: go to Cold play, don't they. Yeah, and when they

911
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 3: have tequila's, A couple of tequila's will help you along

912
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 3: that journey quite well as well. Anyway, she is trying

913
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 3: to clear her name in this whole thing, and you know,

914
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 3: she doesn't want to accept that this is what her

915
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 3: life isn't fair enough to her because the whole thing

916
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 3: went completely mental. She had about fifty or sixty death

917
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 3: threats and people were being horrible to her at the

918
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 3: gas station, and her children are mortified, And there is

919
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: a degree of self reflection that we have to do

920
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 3: as a society that every part of the world that

921
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 3: consumed that and formed opinions on it. But I'm not

922
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 3: really sure. Well, I mean, you're entitled to an opinion,

923
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 3: it's whether you then took it to her. But I'm

924
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 3: not really sure that speaking out about it publicly has

925
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: necessarily helped her case. So I don't know how many

926
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 3: people are going to believe that that was the first

927
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: time they had a bit of a snog.

928
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 16: Anyway, Spirah thought for the people who make kiss cams,

929
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 16: I mean, they've really gone out of vogue.

930
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 3: That's been a tough end to that business for them.

931
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 3: Heither on the school violence the biggest changes the lack

932
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 3: of boundaries and consequences for bad and disruptive behavior. Parents

933
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: need to parent. Can I say that as somebody who

934
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 3: is at the very start of the parenting journey right

935
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: four year old and a one year old, I'm starting

936
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 3: to come to that conclusion. You can try the gentle

937
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 3: parenting thing where you talk through the emotions and everything fine,

938
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: or you could set some absolute boundaries and say to

939
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: the kids that doesn't happen in this family. And I'm

940
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 3: finding that the latter approach is the one that you

941
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 3: want if you don't want your kids to go to

942
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 3: school and smash the teachers and smash the other kids. Anyway,

943
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 3: let's get across. Jenny Wiley next US Talk sat Beef.

944
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: No fluff, just facts and fierce debate.

945
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: Heather Dupe for see Allen on the Mike Hosking Breakfast,

946
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: where the defender embraced the impossible news Togs'd be here the.

947
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. Erica Stanford streets ahead of anywhere else,

948
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 3: anyone else. Heather, I agree, Thanks Erica, We're lucky to

949
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 3: have her. Yes, Erica Stanford rocks, Heather, It's a great

950
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 3: textas gone. Eric has got a lot of fans out

951
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 3: there now. I don't know if you're going to believe this,

952
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 3: but you know the old slow train from from Wellington,

953
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 3: from Hamilton to Auckland to who are well. They want

954
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 3: more money for it. They want to see how it

955
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 3: goes when it connects up with the train set that

956
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: goes under that's going to open next year under Auckland City.

957
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 3: We'll have a chat to Warren. Warren's on the y

958
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 3: Cuttle Regional. Actually incidentally is also so on occasion has

959
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 3: done some electrical work at my house, so we'll be

960
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: kind to Warren. But yeah, Warren's idea sucks up. We'll

961
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 3: tell why don't we just tell Warren that to his

962
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 3: face when he's with us shortly and then Kerry in

963
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 3: Tim will wrap the political week that was for us

964
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 3: and the year after eight it's twenty two away from it.

965
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 13: Well you, Chris.

966
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 3: So the inevitable has happened at Netblew, New Zealand following

967
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: the Dame Nolene Todu and Drama CEO Jenny Wiley has

968
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: resigned from her role, saying she's planning to focus on

969
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 3: family and look ahead to new opportunities. Cruz Tang Eda

970
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 3: is a former New Zealand men's netbule captain and he's

971
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 3: close to many of the players and the Silver Ferns

972
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 3: and he's with us morning cruise.

973
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 17: Good morning. Thank you for having me.

974
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for being with this Listen. It feels to

975
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 3: me like this had to happen.

976
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: What do you think?

977
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 17: Yeah, I think I would have to agree with you, Heather.

978
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 17: I think this has kind of been a long time

979
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 17: coming in terms of the process that this has been through.

980
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 17: I mean, it started all the way back in January

981
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 17: at the Sydney training camp and it's taken until December

982
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 17: for there to be kind of rare resolve. Unfortunately, Nolan

983
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,919
Speaker 17: had to be kind of you know, lose her job

984
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 17: and her name kind of tarnished in that process. But

985
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 17: I think changing able to happen in order to rebuild

986
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 17: the reputation of Netblewood in New Zealand.

987
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, how the player is going to feel about this,

988
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 3: because it does feel like one camp has beaten the

989
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: other camp, right, the camp being Dame Knowles's camp has

990
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 3: beaten the players camp, which I would imagine Jenny was

991
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 3: part of.

992
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 7: Yeah.

993
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 17: Yeah, And it's interesting because you know, I've spoken to

994
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 17: a few of the girls. And I'm not trying to

995
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 17: set aside the whole incident that happened, because I do

996
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 17: believe there was probably some players that did feel kind of,

997
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 17: you know, not not treated respectfully for lack of a

998
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 17: better word. However, there was a massive, massive divide between

999
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 17: the players and obviously the coaching stuff, and it's tough

1000
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 17: when you know those kind of common aspirations don't aligne

1001
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 17: And I think with Nolin coming back now, obviously she

1002
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 17: should be reinstad in next year. I think a lot

1003
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 17: of work has to go into just kind of rebuilding

1004
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 17: the trust between the players and Noline and getting back

1005
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 17: on board and everyone on the same page, because of

1006
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 17: course there's a common rough games coming middle of to

1007
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 17: twenty twenty six and they need to be on board

1008
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 17: if they want to do well in that competition.

1009
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 3: Do you think Dame Knowles is actually going to end

1010
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 3: up coaching the Silver Ferns again, I.

1011
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 17: Personally believe she will. I don't believe she would have

1012
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 17: put up a mass of fact that she has if

1013
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 17: she didn't feel like she would add more value to

1014
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 17: this team. Yeah, as I just mentioned, I feel like

1015
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 17: there's the trust has been severed between the playing group

1016
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 17: and her, just based on everything that happened and the

1017
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 17: process that the way that the process has been handled.

1018
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 17: But I do believe she will come back. I mean,

1019
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 17: I think most of the Nipple public want her to

1020
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 17: come back as well, given how much she's achieved and

1021
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 17: put in the Silver Ferns and just Nipple in general.

1022
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 17: But it will take a long time to kind of

1023
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 17: get back to that point where everyone is on the

1024
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 17: same page and they have that common goal that they

1025
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 17: want to strivele.

1026
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 3: How much of the other problems like the decline of

1027
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 3: the domestic league and the problems with the broadcast deal

1028
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 3: and all that stuff can be laid at the feet

1029
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 3: of Jenny as well.

1030
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 17: I don't know, if I mean, it takes a team

1031
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 17: to kind of run a sporting institution like Neple New Zealand.

1032
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 17: I wouldn't put the entire blame on her because it's

1033
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 17: you know, it's not just her kind of managing these deals,

1034
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 17: as other people on board as well. I think the

1035
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 17: reputation that these kind of mishandles have added to it

1036
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 17: has been quite severe. Like I don't think the reputation

1037
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 17: of Netble within New Zealand has been the best of

1038
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 17: the last couple of months pretty much a whole year

1039
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 17: and now that we don't have a broadcast stale for

1040
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 17: twenty twenty seven. Yeah, as you mentioned, teams have been dropped, well,

1041
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 17: teams have pulled out, should I say, from the national

1042
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 17: netble leg which is a huge pathway for young girls

1043
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 17: coming through, particularly down in the Southland region. But I

1044
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 17: wouldn't put the entire blame on her. Blame on her,

1045
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 17: I think I do think it's like a team that

1046
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 17: are kind of making these decisions. But yeah, a lot

1047
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 17: of more if it needs to be done in order

1048
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 17: to kind of regrow I guess that the growth and

1049
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 17: the want of NetBoy in New Zealand. You know, we've

1050
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 17: got a lot of young girls turning to the likes

1051
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 17: of sevens and rugby because the opportunity is the better,

1052
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 17: the pathways are clearer, and we can't lose more more

1053
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 17: players to different codes around or sorry across in Zilling.

1054
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, Cruz, it's good to talk to you. I really

1055
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 3: appreciate your time. It's Chrus hung Head, a former New

1056
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 3: Zealand men's men's netball captain and also a netball commentator. Now,

1057
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 3: if you listen to drive. You may be aware that

1058
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 3: in the past wee while I have become somewhat like

1059
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: a dangerously obsessed with Jetstar. This is it's because of

1060
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 3: my love hate that mostly hate at the moment relationship

1061
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 3: with the New Zealand and the thing that I'm trying.

1062
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 3: I'm very hard. I'm trying very hard to make Jetstar

1063
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 3: a thing by having caught my first jet Staff flight

1064
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 3: in twenty month, twenty years earlier this month, and hoping

1065
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 3: others will do the same. I am very happy to

1066
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 3: report to you that the Prime Minister has taken my lead.

1067
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 3: I'm going to I'm going to credit myself for this.

1068
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 3: He's got on the jet Staff flight. He caught one yesterday.

1069
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,879
Speaker 3: I checked him with his office. We got very formal

1070
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 3: about this. I was like, this is now an immediate request.

1071
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 3: And the response is that the flight was five minutes

1072
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 3: early in its arrival take that air New Zealand, and

1073
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 3: it was also quote excellent. He seems to have raw

1074
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 3: dognet and he didn't do any of the snack purchases

1075
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 3: on board at all, which still I think remains the

1076
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 3: most exciting thing for me about catching a jet Staff flight,

1077
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 3: which is that you can have Cooru Hoer on the

1078
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 3: jet staff flight at any hour. You don't have to

1079
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 3: wait for corew hour. You can just order yourself whatever

1080
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 3: you want. Isn't that a treat in the air for

1081
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 3: all of Like how much fun I am having myself

1082
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 3: with the jet staffing? This is reasonable? It still is

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00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 3: reasonably significant in that I really think that this signals

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00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 3: a shift in attitudes away and it's a real sign

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00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,279
Speaker 3: of the loss of loyalty for Air New Zealand. I mean,

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00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 3: this guy is a former Air New Zealand CEO. He's

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00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 3: the leader of the government that has a shareholding in

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00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 3: their New Zealand and here he is catching the orange burden,

1089
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 3: not even ashamed of it. But anyway, if he can

1090
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Speaker 3: do it, you can do it. Sixteen away from.

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Speaker 2: Eight, the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio

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1093
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Speaker 3: Heather, who's such a traitor supporting an Australian owned airline

1094
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 3: versus By New Zealand.

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Speaker 21: Not cool?

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00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 3: Well, Anthony, if you're saying that I hope you never

1097
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 3: ever shop at Ikere and that all your flat pack

1098
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 3: comes from the warehouse, because it's basically the same argument.

1099
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 3: Isn't it. I don't know in you, I'll just go

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00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 3: where it's cheap, and it's a hell of a lot

1101
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 3: cheaper over the Orange Bird thirteen away from eight. Now,

1102
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 3: thank the good Lord, we've ended the year with this

1103
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 3: where we've got growth underway. Tick that one for the year,

1104
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 3: and finally we can tick off the list. The Legacy

1105
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 3: media has now covered the spat between Willie Jackson and

1106
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 3: Matt McCartin. Here it is Audrey Young at the Herald

1107
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 3: has finally reported the thing that all the texts have

1108
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 3: been raving about and wanting. There has been a mass

1109
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 3: of falling out between Willie Jackson and Matt mccarton, and

1110
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 3: that is interesting because they are formerly very close friends

1111
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 3: and political allies, and both of them are Union guys,

1112
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 3: and both of them are lefties and so on. Anyway,

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00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 3: what's happened, according to Audrey's report in a nutshell. I mean,

1114
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 3: we could go into the ins and outs, and it does,

1115
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 3: but we could just do it in the nutshell, which

1116
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 3: is Willy Jackson has trespassed Matt mccarton from the Watia

1117
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 3: Midi compound in Mangari, which includes the officers of the

1118
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 3: Monaco Maori Urban Authority which we're gonna call muma. Now

1119
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 3: why he trespassed him is basically repeated breaches of Tea

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00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 3: Kunger and Copapa Maori. Matt mccarton has then encountered with

1121
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 3: allegations of his own. He's claimed widespread bullying by the

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00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 3: murmur ceo who is Willie Jackson's wife, What a surprise.

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Speaker 3: And he's written to Labor Party leader Chris Hipkins and

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00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 3: the Parliamentary Speaker Jerry Brownlee and various other political leaders

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00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 3: and try to rope them into it. So far, all

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00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 3: the political leaders are either just a flat out ignoring

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00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 3: him or saying this is not our problem at all,

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00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 3: and that's just making Matt mccarton go harder. He's now

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00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 3: up to his campaign even more and he's told the

1130
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 3: Herald that he plans to write to the more union

1131
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 3: friendly MPs and the Labor and the Green parties in

1132
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 3: a bid for them to put pressure on Willie Jackson. Now,

1133
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 3: why I'm getting this out of the way, I'm very

1134
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 3: happy to get this out of the way before the

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00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 3: end of the year, is because we have had an

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00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 3: enormous number an enormous number of texts in the last

1137
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 3: few weeks asking us why are we not covering it?

1138
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 3: And the truth of the matter is it is quite

1139
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: an involved thing to have a look at, right, so

1140
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 3: you really need to pay a lot of attention. Audrey

1141
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 3: will have worked quite hard to make sure that this

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00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 3: report is fair and accurate and has got all the

1143
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 3: legal boxes ticked and stuff like that, so that there's

1144
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 3: no recourse and no one's going to get in trouble.

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00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: For Water said, so that's why it's taken a while

1146
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 3: to stack up here.

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00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 16: It is.

1148
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 3: We can stop complaining about it. But can I just say,

1149
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 3: I do not understand the frustration is the fascination with

1150
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 3: this story. I mean, on one level, I think absolutely

1151
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 3: Willie Jackson's an MP and a very senior MP in

1152
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 3: the Labor Party, and so his behavior should be scrutinized

1153
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 3: and what he's doing, especially you know, the falling out

1154
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 3: between the senior Labor MP and a union leader and

1155
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. That's all very interesting, but it's also

1156
00:55:55,680 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 3: not interesting because it's Willie Jackson and Matt mccarton, and

1157
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 3: of course they've had a fight with it. Do you know,

1158
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 3: Willie Jackson and Matt mccarton, if any two people were

1159
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 3: going to have a fight. It's just a wonder John

1160
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 3: tummerhead he's not involved in it as well, because then

1161
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 3: it would be the trifector. Of course they had a

1162
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 3: fight with each other, so what who cares?

1163
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 2: Right away from ten, Heather do for c Allen on

1164
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,200
Speaker 2: the mic asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate news talks,

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00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: they'd be Kerrie.

1166
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 3: And Tim are going to be with us shortly after

1167
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 3: eight o'clock and wrap the week that was in the

1168
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 3: year that was as well. It's seven away from eight.

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00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 10: Now.

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00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if you're going to believe this, but

1171
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 3: why Cuttle Regional Council is asking for a one year

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00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 3: extension for the de Huya train service. This is a

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00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 3: slow train that runs from Auckland to Hamilton. The funding

1174
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 3: rounds that runs out in June next year, but they're

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00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 3: asking n ZTA to fund it through to June twenty

1176
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Speaker 3: twenty seven. Warren maher is the Wykato Regional Council chair.

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Speaker 22: Is with us.

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Speaker 3: Morning Warren, Good morning Heather. Now I've fenced up already

1179
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 3: that we have a pre existing relationship with each other.

1180
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 3: We know each other.

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00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent clarity out there, so we can have a.

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00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 3: Robust discussion without offending anyone on this, I look forward

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00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 3: to it. Okay, Warren, Now so just tell me. So basically,

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00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 3: what you guys want to do is you want to

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00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 3: test out whether the city rail link under Auckland is

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00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 3: going to make to Hui are better.

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 21: Yes, yes, that's correct. That's sort of one of three

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00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 21: reasons why we reached that decision yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, how would it make it better?

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00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 21: Well, potentially then there's more services running past the stations etc.

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00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 21: So there's more opportunity for people to get to different

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00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 21: destinations once that central roll links up and running.

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00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 3: But it doesn't make the train any faster, doesn't. It's

1195
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 3: still a slow like the underlying concept still sucks.

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00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 21: Yeah, personally potentially I agree with you. But what it

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00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 21: does do and it has proven to be slower than

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Speaker 21: a vehicle, so we're not arguing that point. But part

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Speaker 21: of the other two reasons behind the extension or the

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00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 21: asking for the extension, was that we had letters of

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00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 21: support and as well as a delegation from Himilton City councilors,

1202
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 21: we had let us support from Wyke at a district

1203
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 21: and also Wiper And you've got to remember it's the

1204
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 21: Hamilton rate payers and the wykid A District rate payers

1205
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 21: that are actually paying for this service. So you know

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00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 21: that we needed to listen to what they had to say,

1207
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 21: but we made it very clear in our letter that

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Speaker 21: if we cannot get that fair assistance rate at sixty

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00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 21: percent as it sits now, if it drops back to

1210
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 21: fifty one, we want the review of the trial to

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00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 21: go ahead at their April meeting of NZTA, And that

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00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 21: may be the death knell of Tahue. I'm not sure

1213
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 21: That'll come down to a number of decisions and then

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00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 21: us going out to consultation in our long term.

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Speaker 3: Plan because what is this thing still costing? Is it

1216
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 3: still about ninety two dollars per passenger to run it?

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00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:46,439
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1218
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, it is.

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00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 15: It is.

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Speaker 21: And if you if you look at a Hamilton rate payers,

1221
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,959
Speaker 21: say a million dollar property, there's a twenty dollar flat

1222
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 21: rate and then there's a ten dollars eighty eight per

1223
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 21: one hundred thousand of CV. So basically, if you've got

1224
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 21: a million doll home in Hamilton, you're paying one hundred

1225
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 21: and twenty eight dollars in your white caout original council

1226
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Speaker 21: rate to subsidize that service.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I mean I.

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Speaker 3: Would think that if if we're getting the scalpel out,

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00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 3: if we're putting a rates cap on everybody and we're

1230
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 3: getting the scalpel out and we're trying to get under

1231
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 3: that four percent, this has got to be one of

1232
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 3: the first things that gets cut.

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Speaker 1: Potentially.

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Speaker 21: It's something we'll definitely look at for sure.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant. Okay, Warren, thank you. I still like you after that, actually,

1236
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 3: so I'll see you for a beer. See you for

1237
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 3: a beer maybe at the weekend. Mate, look after yourself.

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00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 3: As Warren ma whyecatt or regional council chair and incidentally,

1239
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 3: fantastic electrician okay aa is asking us to calm down

1240
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 3: because they've done a survey and it's quite wild what

1241
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 3: drivers are doing to try to hold onto the car

1242
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 3: parks this Christmas shopping season. A survey of nearly one

1243
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 3: thousand drivers asked about parking habits. Twenty percent of those

1244
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 3: drivers said they'd resorted to using unconventional methods like blocking

1245
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 3: spaces with cones to reserve it for themselves or their

1246
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 3: designated driver, or lying down in the car park space

1247
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 3: that's mental. Other people are using objects like shopping trolleys

1248
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 3: and bills, bins to block entry to the space, asking

1249
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 3: someone to stand in the spits the traditional stuff stand

1250
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 3: in the space, or leaving a fake note or warning

1251
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 3: on another car to ward them off. And one in

1252
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 3: seven drivers are reporting that they're clashing with other drivers

1253
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 3: over a single space and then it turns into a

1254
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 3: verbal argument who has the right to be there? And

1255
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 3: I think, I mean, you know, wow, is of especially

1256
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 3: if you're like, listen, if you're at the point where

1257
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 3: like I'm just going to lie down here, you need

1258
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 3: to check your behavior and maybe listen to the AA. Anyway,

1259
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 3: Carrie and Tim is with us next.

1260
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: Asking the questions others won't. Heather Duplessy Allen on the mic,

1261
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 2: asking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, doing real estate differently

1262
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 2: since nineteen seventy three, News Talk Dead Bad.

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01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 22: It's Kylie Min Oak.

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Speaker 3: You recognize this, Yeah, Kylie Minoak, Kylie Christmas Brackets, pully wrapped.

1265
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 3: I don't know what that means. Number one in the

1266
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 3: charts in the UK, number one on the album's charts.

1267
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 3: She's pushed off all kinds of people who've slipped down

1268
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 3: as a result of including Tata. She's doing quite well.

1269
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 3: You want to go and see the album cover. It's

1270
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 3: a saucy little thing show from our lovely Kylie White.

1271
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 3: But unfortunately Carrie's face is not doing a good thing.

1272
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 22: And you haven't even spoken.

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01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 7: No.

1274
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 22: I think Kylie, Kylie's gorgeous.

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01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 3: I love Kylie.

1276
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 22: But top of the Christmas charts really?

1277
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 3: Well, who else will be top of the Christmas chats?

1278
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 20: Well?

1279
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 22: Any one of the Driving Home for Christmas or you know,

1280
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 22: I mean Chris Rare, the old classic like real usually

1281
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:55,439
Speaker 22: in the seventies or the nineteen eighty.

1282
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 3: But Christmas is nostalgia. This is what we always get,

1283
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 3: get the old bangers.

1284
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: Hello, Merry Christmas.

1285
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 3: I've got your name right this time around.

1286
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 22: And can I say some improvement.

1287
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 3: You cannot see this, but Carrie has turned up in

1288
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 3: a kind of merlow, like a burgundy red frock, which

1289
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 3: is apparently her festive frock. And she gets a festive

1290
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 3: frock every year and is shocked that I do not

1291
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 3: buy myself annually some sort of a festive outfit, do you.

1292
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm wearing.

1293
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 16: I'm wearing my festive trackies at the moment, the same

1294
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 16: trackies I always wear.

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Speaker 22: Sorry, Lovely Georgia, you know, our lovely young colleague.

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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 22: I came in and she said, oh, you love these

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Speaker 22: earrings and I peered at them and I went, oh,

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Speaker 22: I do. It's a pretty little ballerina and a Christmas

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Speaker 22: dress with little Christmas ball slippers to put your glasses on,

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Speaker 22: and what was it? Center center doing the.

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Speaker 3: Splits and the balls are something good.

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Speaker 8: I love it.

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Speaker 3: She's got great in an you you go out and

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Speaker 3: buy yourself a Christmas frock?

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Speaker 11: Do you?

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Speaker 22: I think I've done so well?

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Speaker 15: Not?

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Speaker 22: You know, sometimes in the olden days it used to

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Speaker 22: be on lay by and it doesn't have to be

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Speaker 22: expensive or it has to be a Christmas something. I

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Speaker 22: think Mum started it to be perfectly honest.

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Speaker 3: It's quite a nice thing to do.

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Speaker 11: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 22: I mean, I know you don't like dresses, which is

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Speaker 22: a shame because I haven't gone public with this factor,

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Speaker 22: so now everyone knows I don't like dresses.

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Speaker 3: I don't like Lots of people don't like dresses.

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Speaker 1: It's very hard to do.

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Speaker 3: Let's be honest. It's hard to do things in a dress,

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Speaker 3: isn't it.

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Speaker 7: No.

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Speaker 22: I've managed all my life dresses like a flight of steam.

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Speaker 22: I most certainly can and high heels, but also.

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Speaker 3: It has led to some breakages in your life.

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Speaker 22: Well that is true, but I mean I.

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Speaker 16: Have I've never felt more like a male during this conversation.

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Speaker 16: You guys just started speaking other language.

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Speaker 22: A fest of romper blah blah. I think that in

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Speaker 22: a fest of romper, nothing says Christmas.

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Speaker 3: Yeaht of you know, so I did. I did one time.

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Speaker 3: I did buy a red fest of ones and I

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Speaker 3: still have it. Actually might get it out for you

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Speaker 3: carry thank you very much now late now my last day.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh well you're seeing it. You'll send you

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Speaker 3: Thank God though, isn't that good?

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Speaker 11: Thank God?

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 22: Tim? I was thinking this this week and actually had

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Speaker 22: discussions with the boss that our holidays are too long.

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Speaker 22: They're a bit like the old two day lunches that

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Speaker 22: used to be a hoots wahe and lots of fun,

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Speaker 22: and now they're just gross and excessive. Seven week holidays

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Speaker 22: used to be yay and aspirational. And I really thinks,

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Speaker 22: oh that's a bit excessive.

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Speaker 3: Do you think so, aren't they?

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Speaker 7: Tim?

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Speaker 3: I was it my Catholic girl?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, no, no, no, I'm just I'm just trying to

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Speaker 16: because yeah, I'm just trying to balance it because I

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Speaker 16: sort of you know, and off we think because you know,

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Speaker 16: we got four boys. So yeah, when the holidays come,

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Speaker 16: it's like hoorad and it's like, oh my goodness, what

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Speaker 16: are we going to do? I'm actually I'm actually currently

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Speaker 16: wounded because I got shot in the eye with a

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Speaker 16: NERF gun last night, because I've been a NERF gun war.

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Speaker 16: And when I woke up this morning, it was sort

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Speaker 16: of like these black spots over my left eye that

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Speaker 16: sort of looked like bracken, and I was like, oh, Roman, no,

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Speaker 16: I'll be all right. Come see, I'm a I'm a bloke.

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Speaker 1: I don't go.

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Speaker 3: That's fine. I mean, that's your eye. If you want

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Speaker 3: to lose it, that's true. How are we to tell?

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Speaker 22: But then the agony will get so much that you'll

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Speaker 22: be queuing on Christmas Day and already overworked ED department

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Speaker 22: will be seeing somebody who put off getting treatment.

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Speaker 3: Actually, Tim, you spent that you spent was it one

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Speaker 3: or two nights this week in Starship?

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Speaker 16: One night in Starship because we we decided to do

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Speaker 16: two boys with their tonsils, So four tonsils, four adnoids,

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Speaker 16: and two boys. Yeah, yeah, no they I'll tell you

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Speaker 16: what though, I don't know where they came from. These well,

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Speaker 16: these boys, it must be their mother's side. So the

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Speaker 16: surgeon walks in and says Roman, and Roman looks up

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Speaker 16: and says, so it's my time to die?

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Speaker 2: Is it.

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Speaker 3: Too many movies? By the standing? Did you tim? I

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Speaker 3: love stars and I think I got. Yeah, all cland

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Speaker 3: parents are so fortunate to have a dedicated children.

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Speaker 22: It's for all children, it is, and they do get

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Speaker 22: the opportunities.

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Speaker 3: Hone down from bit of hooping cough, do you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean? Other parents obviously only get flown up

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Speaker 3: if there's like some sort of like brain bleed or

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Speaker 3: something like that. My child's and charity too. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: love them.

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Speaker 8: Did you get?

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Speaker 3: And what I love about it is you get nowadays

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Speaker 3: they've got the kiddy's bed or the cot or whatever.

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Speaker 3: And then the parent gets like a did you get

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Speaker 3: the pull out thing?

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Speaker 8: I got?

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Speaker 16: I got mattresses. Here's here's the here's the tip that

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Speaker 16: I got from from a parent who's been been there

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Speaker 16: for a few days, and she said, get two mattresses

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Speaker 16: if you can stack them on top of each other.

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Speaker 22: Oh yeah, yes, I've done the mattress on two over

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Speaker 22: my time.

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Speaker 3: And you want to double blanket as well, because they

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Speaker 3: run that just a little bit chilly.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, you are living proof of something I've said just recently.

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Speaker 22: It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye,

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Speaker 22: and you are right, can I We also do a

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Speaker 22: shout out to all the other grandparents I see who

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Speaker 22: are trying to help out during the school holidays as

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Speaker 22: we're all trying to do fun things with the kids

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Speaker 22: that don't cost ten thousand dollars every time you go somewhere. Yeah,

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Speaker 22: I see you grandparents.

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Speaker 3: We see all the grandparents. Thank the Good Lord for

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Speaker 3: the grandparents, especially the ones that will end up with

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Speaker 3: broken bones as a result. We'll take a quick break,

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Speaker 3: come back with these two. It's thirteen past eight.

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Speaker 2: The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, part

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Speaker 2: by News.

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Speaker 1: Talks b.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen past eight.

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Speaker 2: The Weekend Review with two degrees bringing smart business solutions

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Speaker 2: to the table.

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Speaker 3: Back with Tim Wilson and Kerry Wouldham. Tim, have you

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Speaker 3: had to look at those vanity fair photographs of the

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Speaker 3: Trump administration?

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Speaker 11: Uh?

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Speaker 16: Yes, I have thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Why did they do it?

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Speaker 16: Like two words vanity fair And they say it's like,

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Speaker 16: oh well, oh golly, we didn't realize the coverage would

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Speaker 16: be like this, Well, of course it won't.

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Speaker 7: It's vaverity Fair.

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Speaker 16: It's like it's like someone you know, someone like a

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Speaker 16: National Party guy, going, why was John Campbell so mean

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Speaker 16: to me?

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Speaker 3: You've brought it up now I'm going to have to

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01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 3: talk about it later on, just as one of why

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Speaker 3: why would John Campbell possibly be mean to somebody from

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Speaker 3: the National Party.

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Speaker 22: But also you've got to get approval, Like I've looked

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Speaker 22: that even working in the media, you get approval of

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01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 22: the text, you get approval of the photos and Rookie

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01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,680
Speaker 22: era very early on, I didn't get approven headline, but.

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Speaker 3: The headline isn't the same garry Like if you go

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01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 3: in the Women's Day, you get the approval. But I

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01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 3: reckon that that magazines with it, I don't want to

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01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 3: be unkind, but with like a stronger editorial stance would

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01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:41,760
Speaker 3: never give you approval.

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01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 22: Only marginally stronger with vanity Fair.

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Speaker 3: Do you reckon that they would give you a problem.

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Speaker 22: And it's like the Atlantic, I mean, surely those Susie

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01:08:48,760 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 22: Economist or I mean it's true, but surely Susie Wilde's

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01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 22: going and sitting down and going time you say Susie Wilde,

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01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 22: that image of Susie wild No, no, no.

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Speaker 16: When you first said Susie Wilde, I was like Auckland

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01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 16: pro vacs academic doing in Vanity Fair. I have to

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Speaker 16: see what's happening.

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Speaker 3: Oh lord, you guys. I mean, I'll preface it by

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01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,639
Speaker 3: saying the American Suz Yes. So when the American scuse

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01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 3: he was sat down and read her Vanity Fair and said,

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01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 3: oh look, I called him trumpy. I said he had

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Speaker 3: an alcoholic personality. Do you think she went there? Fine,

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Speaker 3: let's take that one off.

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Speaker 22: No, But I mean you've got to ask, I mean,

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Speaker 22: a why would you do vanity Fair? Good question, Andy,

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01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:30,879
Speaker 22: why would you do it without getting absolute approval of everything?

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Speaker 3: Unfair? Carry when we look at the pictures of the

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Speaker 3: press sect and see her collagen stabs in her lips

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Speaker 3: and make comment.

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Speaker 22: No, I mean, I mean obviously she has fellow, and

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Speaker 22: lots of young women do, and lots of I mean

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01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 22: more young women I think these days have it than

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Speaker 22: older women because they're trying to turn back time. Oh,

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Speaker 22: my young sisters, my young sister.

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Speaker 3: They're trying to prevent the passage of time.

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Speaker 7: And child friend, Yeah, who wants to young.

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Speaker 3: Do you see the Prime Minister called the Jetstar?

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Speaker 16: Yeah, yeah, and I was I was sort of thinking, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 16: he made a choice. But you're right, it's like Prime

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Speaker 16: Minister owns part of the part of the New Zealand.

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Speaker 16: Oh and used to be used to be the CEO

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Speaker 16: of the New zeal And. Having said that his end

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Speaker 16: of your speech for so far and he can do

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Speaker 16: whatever he likes.

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Speaker 3: Oh do you enjoy that?

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Speaker 11: Now?

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Speaker 3: I enjoyed that as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did he?

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Speaker 7: Do you think he did the best speech?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 16: In terms of comedic awards?

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01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 3: Who would you who would you say beat him? Because

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Speaker 3: I'm going to tell you now, chis Chippy's analogy the

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Speaker 3: metaphor that he was drawing with the barbecue that went

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Speaker 3: on for about seven minutes. By the end of it,

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Speaker 3: it was by thirty seconds. It was tired. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: do you know who he was.

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Speaker 22: One of the best speakers at Barry's Valedictory Center or

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Speaker 22: his speech writer. But he delivered it well, you know

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Speaker 22: there were some banging speeches at Barry's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're not talking about bars. You're doing the

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Speaker 3: thing that Barry does when I talk about anything, and

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Speaker 3: Barry goes that I know were not once upon a

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Speaker 3: time when I was.

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Speaker 1: Of a story about me.

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Speaker 22: I'm so sorry, but no, no, I thought that was

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Speaker 22: relevant because we were talking about funny speeches and I

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Speaker 22: can deliver them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, But also.

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Speaker 22: I want our PM to get somewhere expeditiously, and ideally

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Speaker 22: he would use their New Zealand because Air New Zealand

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Speaker 22: have to cover the roots that Jetstar choosers not to,

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01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 22: so they have to do roots that that Jetstar don't do.

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Speaker 3: If you want to get there expeditiously, then you'll use whatever.

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Speaker 3: And I'm going to do Jet Star, yeah, because they

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Speaker 3: get their on time well or is Air New Zealand.

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Speaker 22: But also if that's that's his schedule, I don't want

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01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 22: them going well, I'm going to virtue signal by sitting

1515
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 22: for two hours in a corel lounge and wait for

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Speaker 22: an airs.

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01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 3: Now what are you doing for Christmas? Carry you got

1518
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 3: anything fun planned?

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01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 22: Well some might say yes, I'm doing a roadie with

1520
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 22: my mum. Okay, so we're having breakfast with the family

1521
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 22: and then and the unwrapping of the pre presence of

1522
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 22: the little ones. Then I prefer to see it as

1523
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 22: Thelma and Louise than driving Daisy. We're heading to the

1524
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 22: Rotterda Lakes. Yes, because I've never done the Rotada Alakes

1525
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 22: and that's where my brother and sister in Laura and

1526
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 22: all their family are so were gate crashing their Christmas.

1527
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 15: This is nice.

1528
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 22: And then I'm taking it fun to see her old

1529
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 22: school friend who she's knowine for eighty three years. And

1530
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 22: both of these wild, fabulously wonderful independent women are.

1531
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 3: Still you know, who gets to pack the chuns in

1532
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 3: the car.

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01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 22: We're going to take it in turns. We both agree

1534
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 22: on Neil Diamond and relevant given that the movie's coming

1535
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 22: out on Year's Day, and then we take it in turns.

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01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,520
Speaker 22: I've got her into Marlon Williams, Glenn.

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01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 3: Marlon Williams, oh listen.

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01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 10: Tim.

1539
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 3: Glenn has controversially said Marlon Williams sucks.

1540
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 1: Oh I was?

1541
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 7: Is this a new one.

1542
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 22: In Funeral?

1543
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: And I just won't have it.

1544
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 22: And I have held Glenn in the highest regard.

1545
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 3: Yeah until now, but he's cooked his goose. It's just

1546
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,640
Speaker 3: the music, yeah, kickling. Roy Aubison's voice apparently is.

1547
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 22: Just it doesn't warble, he saws like an angel.

1548
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 3: Well he just he juster and aids doesn't doesn't it.

1549
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,080
Speaker 3: We're sexy. Treat boys, I mean, do we need to

1550
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 3: calm down right now a little bit? What are you

1551
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 3: doing for Christy other than getting shot in the face

1552
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 3: of the nerve gun?

1553
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 8: Oh?

1554
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 22: Four boys?

1555
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:10,839
Speaker 1: What bless?

1556
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 3: What bless we?

1557
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 16: Actually, you know what, We're off to sing some Carols

1558
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 16: tonight with our in laws. So this is well, my

1559
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 16: mate actually married Rachel's sister and so they've got four

1560
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 16: girls and we've got four boys, and it's going to

1561
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 16: be absolute bedlam and chaos, but it'll be Carol chaos

1562
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 16: that sounds.

1563
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 22: You'll be able to get all glory of OL's old

1564
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 22: school equipment.

1565
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 3: Thanks anyway, don't worry. God got her back and she's coughing.

1566
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,560
Speaker 22: I hope you're doing something really lovely and feminine and

1567
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 22: beautiful for the beautiful, beautiful wife and mother of yours.

1568
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 3: Four amazing yes, treat the ladies. Hey, listen, guys, look

1569
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 3: after yourself.

1570
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: Chris, Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas, God bless you.

1571
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 3: As Tim Wilson carry wouldham the week that was, and actually,

1572
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 3: as it turns out, the year that was eight twenty three.

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01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 2: Heather duper c Allen fond of my casking breakfast with

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Speaker 2: a vida. Retirement communities use togstead b who.

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Speaker 1: Heather duper c Allen Heather, Please pass.

1593
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,240
Speaker 3: On to Tim Siegel, we all strings of any kind

1594
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 3: in your vision after an eye injury is a serious

1595
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 3: symptom that requires immediate medical attention by an ophthalmologist. It

1596
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 3: could be a warning sign of a retinal terror detachment,

1597
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:12,759
Speaker 3: which can lead to permanent vision loss. Okay, Julian, nothing

1598
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 3: to worry about. I think we'll give him a call

1599
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 3: just being a man, though he's probably going to just

1600
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:18,640
Speaker 3: ignore it, isn't it. And it's the last day of

1601
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 3: the year, like as the last day of the working year.

1602
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 3: Who's going to see Tim's eye? Probably going blind, doesn't he?

1603
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 3: Murray Olds is with us? Out of Australia Short, we

1604
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 3: used togsz.

1605
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 2: B Opinionated, informed, unapologetic Here the dupless Allen on the

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01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:52,240
Speaker 2: Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vida, Retirement, Communities, Life Your

1607
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Speaker 2: Way News togs ed B.

1608
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 3: Well, gosh, Donald Trump, Donald Trump is struck again. The

1609
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 3: Trump Center, Oh sorry, The Kennedy Center has now been

1610
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 3: renamed the Trump Kennedy Center. This is a it's been

1611
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,360
Speaker 3: revealed on x formerly known as Twitter, that the board

1612
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 3: has voted to do that. They may run into a

1613
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,799
Speaker 3: little bit of difficulty with this because the original roles

1614
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 3: that guided the creation of the Kennedy Center, basically specifically

1615
01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 3: prohibited the renaming of the building, anticipating presumably that some

1616
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 3: guy who paints the face orange would come along and

1617
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 3: do something like this.

1618
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:26,679
Speaker 1: The chair of the board at the Trump Kennedy Center

1619
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: these days.

1620
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, I can't imagine that there was

1621
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 3: any undue influence on them whatsoever. It is notable that

1622
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 3: none of them are talking about it at the minute.

1623
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 3: Twenty two away from.

1624
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:40,360
Speaker 2: Name International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of

1625
01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:41,799
Speaker 2: Mind for New Zealand Business.

1626
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 3: Murray Old's Australia correspondent is with us muzz good morning

1627
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 3: to you.

1628
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 8: I had the good morning to you now.

1629
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 3: So Elbow's under some pressure, isn't he?

1630
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 8: No kidding, no kidding, and massivelya kalpa yesterday on the

1631
01:16:56,479 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 8: back of last Sunday. He really had nowhere else to

1632
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 8: go because in the last two years you and I

1633
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 8: have spoken about this, the anti Semitic rhetorics really amped

1634
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 8: up over here. You've had almost every weekend for the

1635
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 8: last couple of years, the Palestine Action Group march into

1636
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 8: the streets of Sydney with the blessing on at least

1637
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 8: one occasion, I think maybe two of the new South

1638
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 8: Wales Supreme Court. They said the police could not step

1639
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 8: in and stop the march, notwithstanding of fact it may

1640
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 8: have run up in one case against a pro's Ralli march.

1641
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 8: So alban Easy commissioned his own hand picked anti Semitics envoy,

1642
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 8: if you will, a woman of you know, and Jullian

1643
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 8: Siegel very well regarded on both sides of politics, and

1644
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:49,080
Speaker 8: she presented a report to the government in July basically saying, listen,

1645
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 8: we have to do a whole bunch of different things.

1646
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 8: Heather in an education in terms of the eases and

1647
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 8: so on and so forth. It's sat on the shelf

1648
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 8: gathering dust. They hand picked the government cherry picked a

1649
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 8: few items and said there we go, that's it, set

1650
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,400
Speaker 8: and forget. Well, no, we saw these helfwards last Sunday.

1651
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 8: And so what Albanese has now done. We're going to

1652
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 8: adopt all of these Seagull recommendations. We're going to target

1653
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:15,919
Speaker 8: hate preachers who use the Internet to spread their horrible messages.

1654
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 8: We're going to really ramp up penalties for those who

1655
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 8: are convicted of hate speech. We're going to have hate

1656
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 8: as an aggravating factor in sentencing for those convicted of

1657
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,600
Speaker 8: these online threats. There's going to be a list of

1658
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 8: organizations that are banned. You're going to have tougher visa checks,

1659
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 8: plus an education task force to make sure the education

1660
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 8: system has got the tools to respond. Do you know

1661
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 8: in this country Jewish students at university is not all

1662
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 8: that some have got secure spaces to go and study.

1663
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 8: And the other thing, the other point that really shocked

1664
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 8: me this week, and I hadn't even thought about it.

1665
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 8: A synagogue is the only place in Australia place of

1666
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 8: worship that's locked. Anglican churches, mosques, seek temples, they're all open,

1667
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,679
Speaker 8: go in and worship. You can't if you're a Jew.

1668
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:05,880
Speaker 8: And it's just horrible. So yeah, when he's under a

1669
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 8: hell of a lot of pressure hither he may even

1670
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 8: recall Parliament this coming summer to get this stuff through.

1671
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 3: Mus Am I right in thinking that he hasn't gone

1672
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 3: to any of the funerals of the Bondi victims.

1673
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 8: No, he hasn't. He hasn't been to any of the funerals,

1674
01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 8: and they are ongoing. I suppose the funeral yesterday of

1675
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 8: the youngest victim of Lovely Little girl ten years old,

1676
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 8: but Tilda mom and dad didn't want their surname views.

1677
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:33,040
Speaker 8: But his office said he didn't that there's an elaborate

1678
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 8: protocol around all of this. You can't just rock up

1679
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 8: to a funeral if you're the prime minister or the

1680
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 8: opposition leader. You have to go through these channels and

1681
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 8: the officer typically reaches out, may we have the prime

1682
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 8: minister attend your funeral service? They said they did not

1683
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 8: do that in the case of alb and Easy because

1684
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 8: of the anger of this little girl's mom and dad.

1685
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 8: They said, bloody hell, he didn't do enough. You did

1686
01:19:55,520 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 8: not do enough to protect this. So his office said, no,

1687
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 8: we're not going to do that. Susan Lee's office did

1688
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 8: do that, and they went through a very able, very

1689
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 8: capable opposition front bencher who's Jewish, a guy called Julian Lisa,

1690
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 8: very balanced man. He said, listen, can Susan Lee come along?

1691
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 8: I'll come too. They said, fine, then you come. So yes,

1692
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 8: it's you know, he has not been to any of

1693
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,599
Speaker 8: these funerals, is not sure if they'll go to any.

1694
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 8: But I'll tell you what, it's been harrowing viewing this week.

1695
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,080
Speaker 8: There's some sense, you know, I mean, it's cordy and

1696
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 8: tried and cliche, but there is an innocence lost. I

1697
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 8: think a lot of Australians thought this is never going

1698
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:34,000
Speaker 8: to happen here, and the bloody world did.

1699
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think. I think in a way though, mus

1700
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 3: in a way, what has happened is that around the

1701
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 3: Western world, in democratic societies, liberal societies, where we have

1702
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 3: allowed the Jews to be treated like this and got

1703
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,040
Speaker 3: used to the idea that there has to be a

1704
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 3: security guard outside of Kadema and that's somehow normal, we

1705
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,240
Speaker 3: have been shocked into realizing this is not okay. And

1706
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,360
Speaker 3: so I think the loss of the innocence is not

1707
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 3: just it's predominantly with you, but around the world. But

1708
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:02,639
Speaker 3: listen Josh Fredenburg, right, so he got really angry about

1709
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 3: this at the Prime Minister and he's been accused of

1710
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 3: politicizing the situation. Is that a fair accusation.

1711
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:10,960
Speaker 8: Well, he can't have it both ways. I mean, Josh

1712
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,559
Speaker 8: Fredenburg came to BONDEI on Wednesdays was a Wednesday Thursday

1713
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,759
Speaker 8: of this week, and he look, he was You cannot

1714
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 8: doubt the man's sincerity. He is a Jew, a proud duke.

1715
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:24,759
Speaker 8: He's also been a very senior and very well regarded

1716
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 8: politician for the liberal side of Australian politics. No one

1717
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 8: says a bad word about Fredenburg and his emotion, his

1718
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 8: sense of loss, like crying. Now he was one hundred

1719
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 8: percent genuine. And then he's just ripped into Albanezy, you

1720
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 8: caused this, you brought this on us. But then he

1721
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 8: goes on television that night, National TV. He's asked a

1722
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:49,400
Speaker 8: question about politicizing the tragedy and he just explodes. He

1723
01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 8: you know, how dare you said, I'm deeply offended. Make

1724
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 8: you're the one who did it only a few hours earlier.

1725
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 8: You can't have it both ways. And of course this

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Speaker 8: thing's been politicized. You know they're all saying all tiptoeing

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Speaker 8: around and dancing around and here, but of course has

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Speaker 8: been politicize. Suason Lee I think has come out looking

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Speaker 8: pretty well, look pretty good. But I've always liked Susan

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Speaker 8: Lee in that room full of blue suits and you know,

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Speaker 8: men with sharp teeth. I think she's done the hell

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Speaker 8: of a job. And I think she stepped up this

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Speaker 8: week as well. She's been restrained and moderate and so on.

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Speaker 8: You know, has been dreadful and that's isis Isis came

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Speaker 8: out of the night praise these BONDI beach halfwards, a

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Speaker 8: source of pride said isis the two killers were lions

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Speaker 8: and that warned that more attacks are coming.

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Speaker 16: Pretty cool.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Murray, thank you very much mate, look after Someone's

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Speaker 3: a joy to talk to you throughout the year and

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Speaker 3: I hope you and yours have a lovely Christmas. It's

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Speaker 3: Murray Old's Australia crosspondent. Listen to a little bit more

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Speaker 3: on that and just what's going on re anti Semitism.

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Speaker 3: I'll get your cross at next sixteen away from nine the.

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Speaker 2: Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Howard By News talks at b right.

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Speaker 3: So on what muzz was just talking about read the

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Speaker 3: anti semitism. It hasn't taken long and I think this

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Speaker 3: is a theme that I kind of have been talking

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Speaker 3: about for a couple of days now. It hasn't taken

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Speaker 3: long for people to all of a sudden just to

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Speaker 3: have an awakening to what is going on for Jewish people.

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Speaker 3: The UK police have already already arrested a couple of

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Speaker 3: people for anti semitism, anti semitism, for chanting the slogans

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Speaker 3: involving the word into farda overnight. Remember they only just

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Speaker 3: said I was telling you this just yesterday. I said,

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Speaker 3: they've changed, They've changed their stance. They're going to start

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Speaker 3: arresting people if they using the word into farda. And

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Speaker 3: literally within hours of me telling you that two people

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Speaker 3: had already been arrested. And by the way, they now

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Speaker 3: saying if Chloe comes to the UK and pulls out

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Speaker 3: her stunt from the river to the sea, et cetera,

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Speaker 3: et cetera, that could also lead to an arrest. So

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Speaker 3: watch that dry up real quick. And then over in Australia,

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Speaker 3: there's a staff for at the Sydney University. The video

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Speaker 3: is actually quite a thing to watch. She has been

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Speaker 3: sacked because the video emerged showing her screaming at Jewish

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Speaker 3: students who were celebrating a holiday which happened over in October.

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Speaker 3: She called them filthy, rubbish, disgusting, child killers and parasites.

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Speaker 3: And these are just a couple of Australian Jewish kids

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Speaker 3: right just all they do is like a stall at

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Speaker 3: the university or something, and this academic comes up just

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Speaker 3: like literally going nuts at them. The interesting thing about

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Speaker 3: it is initially when the university was aware of it.

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Speaker 3: They only suspended her after Bondi sacked her immediately, So

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Speaker 3: everything has changed now twelve past nine, twelve away from nine. Rather,

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Speaker 3: I've been getting a few texts this morning about the

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Speaker 3: John Campbell appointment at aren Z. It is interesting. It's

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Speaker 3: worth reading the Herald this morning. Go have a look

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Speaker 3: at Shane Curry's piece. Always does a brilliant piece actually,

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Speaker 3: and he's reporting Shane Curry is that the decision to

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Speaker 3: hire John Campbell for morning report at the state broadcaster

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Speaker 3: was the subject of robust discussion at arn Z board level,

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Speaker 3: and not all board members were aligned or necessarily agreed

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Speaker 3: with the proposed appointment, but ultimately, says Shane, it was

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Speaker 3: not their call.

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Speaker 7: Now, I mean.

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Speaker 3: It is a strange to let's be honest, it's a

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Speaker 3: strange decision because if there's one theme that's really emerged

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Speaker 3: from for the last few years, but particularly the last year,

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Speaker 3: it is the scrutiny on media when it comes to

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Speaker 3: impartiality and bias. Right, and have a look at what's

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Speaker 3: happening to the BBC right now, rebiased. They are in

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Speaker 3: the world's biggest trouble over that even have a look

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Speaker 3: at what's just happened to the ABC being called out

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Speaker 3: by one of the daughters of a BONDI victim for

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Speaker 3: a lack of impartiality and for bias. So this is

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01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:29,920
Speaker 3: a hot topic. So you would think if you were

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Speaker 3: a state broadcaster appointing somebody in this particular environment, you

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Speaker 3: would be looking to go for somebody who's straight down

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Speaker 3: the middle. You cannot accuse John Campbell of being straight

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01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 3: down the middle because he has you know, he has

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Speaker 3: in the past admitted to voting for the likes of

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Speaker 3: the Act of the Alliance Party. Sorry, who are you know,

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Speaker 3: left of labor type thing. Now, I don't have a problem, right,

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Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with bias. I think you should.

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Speaker 3: I think everybody is biased. I'm biased, John Campbell's bias.

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01:25:57,200 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 3: We're all biased. I think the most the most honorable

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Speaker 3: thing to do in this situation is declare your bias.

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01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:04,520
Speaker 3: So be like, yeah, sure, I come from a conservative

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01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 3: all libertarian worldview, or I come from a I love

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01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 3: the left, whatever, do it. Don't pretend you don't have bias.

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Speaker 3: And this is the problem with our n Z. They've

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Speaker 3: already put out a statement saying John Campbell has a

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Speaker 3: commitment to impartial journalism. No he doesn't. He doesn't, and

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01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,759
Speaker 3: that's your mistake. Just be honest about it and you wouldn't.

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01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 3: Then people would believe you and trust would not go

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Speaker 3: ten away from nine.

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Speaker 2: Either dupicl and on the my asking breakfast were the

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Speaker 2: defender and use togs dead?

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Speaker 3: B oh lord, we're back on any New Zealand on

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Speaker 3: the text text are still coming in about other people

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Speaker 3: feel strongly about the story.

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Speaker 21: Either.

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Speaker 3: I have some sympathy for Air New Zealand. The orange

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01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 3: bird only flies a few roots in New Zealand, and

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01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 3: New Zealand has to cover the whole country. Well, there

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01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 3: is an element of truth to that. It has got

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Speaker 3: the backstop of the government though, doesn't it. So you

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01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 3: know swings and roundabouts. Now on the subject of Australia,

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Speaker 3: can I just say, I reckon they're onto something with education.

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Speaker 3: I reckon we might want to try this out. The

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Speaker 3: last couple of days week or so, the Aussie papers

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Speaker 3: have been full of what's going on in education over there.

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Speaker 3: The Sydney Morning Herald because of course all the kids

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Speaker 3: are getting their grades at the moment, and the Sydney

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Speaker 3: Morning Herald has an entire section that's dedicated to HSC,

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Speaker 3: which is the achievement that they get at the end

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01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 3: of secondary school. And it's just like they go ballistic

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Speaker 3: on it. They've got videos of the smartest kids receiving

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Speaker 3: their results and seeing how well they've done. They've got

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Speaker 3: the names and the photographs of individuals students that have

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Speaker 3: done well, and the schools that have done well. They've

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01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,760
Speaker 3: got like these are the headlines. Ruby and her mum

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01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 3: react to the school North Sydney Boys tops the HSC

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Speaker 3: for the third year in a row. How your school

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Speaker 3: ranked in the twenty twenty five HC the twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: five HSC on a roll every student with the top bandlisted. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: it just goes on and on and the coverage is nuts,

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Speaker 3: and it was like leading the front page yesterday. Just

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01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 3: occurred to me that if we want to do well

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Speaker 3: in education, and if we want to make this a

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01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 3: thing that kids strive for, maybe we should make more

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Speaker 3: of a fuss about you know, we make a fuss

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Speaker 3: about the first fifteen, maybe we can make a fuss

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Speaker 3: about the nerdy kids as well. It seems like a

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Speaker 3: fantastic approach to education, don't you think maybe just a

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Speaker 3: little hot idea for ourselves for next year. Five away from.

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Speaker 2: Nine trending now the HIMS Warehouse your home for Christmas shopping.

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Speaker 3: So next year, America is celebrating two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: years since the country was founded. There's been a number

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Speaker 3: of announcements already for what's happening. They're having the big

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Speaker 3: UFC event at the White House. They're going to suppose

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Speaker 3: as supposedly, have the largest fireworks display in the world.

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Speaker 3: That's according to Trump, So I mean, you know, take

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Speaker 3: it with the grain of salt. There will also be

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Speaker 3: a Great American State Fair at the National Mall, involving

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Speaker 3: representation from all fifty states. Trump is bringing back the

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Speaker 3: Salute to America. There will also be this in the fall, we.

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Speaker 15: Will host the first ever Patriot Games, an unprecedented four

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Speaker 15: day athletic event featuring the greatest high school athletes, one

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Speaker 15: young man and one young woman from each state and territory.

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Speaker 3: Event that has a boy and a girl from every state.

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Speaker 3: Is it making you think of this? I volunteer this

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Speaker 3: tribute A we all thought that immediately, like, oh dear God,

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Speaker 3: here we go.

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Speaker 8: Yep.

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Speaker 3: The comparisons are being made online already there's no word

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Speaker 3: on whether there will be a Death Games. But then again,

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Speaker 3: it's Donald Trump, so look anything as possible and yep,

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Speaker 3: that's a joke, so don't get outraged by that given

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Speaker 3: the current climate now, it always feels weird to me

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Speaker 3: to be the one to kind of bring this show

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Speaker 3: to an end, because of course it's the Mike Hosking

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Speaker 3: Breakfast Show, but it is the Mike Hosking break the

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Speaker 3: final Mike hosting breakfast show of the year. So can

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Speaker 3: I say on behalf of Mike and the team, thank

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01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 3: you so much for tuning in, keeping him company, sending

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Speaker 3: him texts so just you know, sort him out from

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Speaker 3: time to time because that's always a bit necessary. Thank

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Speaker 3: you to Sam and Glenn who also do the old

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Speaker 3: sorting out from time to time. And also just quick

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Speaker 3: shout out to my drive team you have put up

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Speaker 3: with me throughout the year. Thank you so much support

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Speaker 3: for supporting News Talks it. But you have yourself a

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Speaker 3: lovely Christmas, Stay safe and I'll see you in the

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Speaker 3: new year.

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Speaker 11: We never come down this Timmy time, this tummy, this time, Oh.

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Speaker 1: Well, you'll be.

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Speaker 4: Hard.

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Speaker 1: You always here.

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Speaker 11: This time, this Timmy.

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Speaker 1: For more from The Mic Asking Breakfast.

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Speaker 2: Listen live to News Talks it B from six am weekdays,

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