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Speaker 2: the Capitol. We got the Warriors losing the co Captain.

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Speaker 2: We haven't even kicked off yet. Mark and Jinny Politics Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: Richard Arnold, State of the Union Day, Steve Price in Australia,

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Speaker 2: the schedule of the week. Here we go seven past six.

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Speaker 2: I got a couple of things to say about the

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Speaker 2: list of the largest players in the so called Mari economy.

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Speaker 2: If you saw this TDB advisory crunch, the numbers the

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Speaker 2: top ten collectively have had an annual return of three

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Speaker 2: point nine percent. Now that perhaps indicates their specific view

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Speaker 2: of the world and objectives as opposed to chasing bigger

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Speaker 2: riches because there's plenty more money out there to be

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Speaker 2: made that they wanted to. Part of the problem for

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Speaker 2: some I read with interest has been the reliance on

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Speaker 2: government money. Grants and contracts have been cut back, which

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Speaker 2: is a lesson to us all. I would have thought

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Speaker 2: the tax tap from Wellington is an easy thing to

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Speaker 2: get used to, but it's often done on a whim

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Speaker 2: more ideology not business documen, so as quickly as it arrives,

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Speaker 2: it can disappear. But the inescapable thing about all the

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Speaker 2: numbers is the size of some of these operators and

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Speaker 2: the time in which they've been able to build. Tai Nui,

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Speaker 2: for example, are the top of the pile. They've got

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Speaker 2: over two billion dollars worth of assets. Taynui signed their

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Speaker 2: deal back in nineteen ninety five. They've got almost one

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand members benefiting from that arrangement. Napui, on the

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Speaker 2: other hand, no deal at all. They're not in the

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Speaker 2: top ten. They're not in the top of anything. They're

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Speaker 2: the biggest of the players yet to settle. There are others,

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Speaker 2: but they're small fry. Why do you reckon or what

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Speaker 2: do you reckon? The damage has been to those that

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Speaker 2: could not even get out of their own way? How

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Speaker 2: much have they missed out on? A Tai Nui have

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Speaker 2: three decades of growth and expansion and returns group like Naipo,

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Speaker 2: we have zero see for all the agro and the

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Speaker 2: angst and the finger pointing and the trips to the

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Speaker 2: Waitangi Tribunal. How much of Marridam is bogged down in

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Speaker 2: the past and arguing about it. And how much of

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Speaker 2: Marridom saw the opportunity when it arrived, jumped on it,

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Speaker 2: and have been sailing away ever since. And for those

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Speaker 2: that remain angry and upset and want to relitigate it

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Speaker 2: all over and over and over again, just how many

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Speaker 2: more years are you Tainui is in Nita who's simply

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Speaker 2: going to keep on investing and reaping rewards while the

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Speaker 2: others stand on the roadside watching life pass them by.

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Speaker 2: It is why we should have drawn a line years ago,

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Speaker 2: set a date, settle your deals, get the checks and

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Speaker 2: the apologies done, and move forward. See in marryed them

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Speaker 2: like life. Some do, some don't. Some are never destined to.

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Speaker 3: Wow news of the world. In ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: In Europe they are marking four years of war.

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Speaker 4: Put in, can it accept one simple thing that somewhere

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Speaker 4: people can live differently and enjoy a life that is

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Speaker 4: not the one he prefers, keys or itself?

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Speaker 2: So Kia put aside as Mendelsohn andrew problems long enough

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Speaker 2: to say.

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Speaker 5: This international borders cannot be changed by force is a

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Speaker 5: principle we've adhered to in this group very strongly and rightly.

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Speaker 6: So.

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Speaker 5: It is our history, it's our territory, it's our piece,

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Speaker 5: it's our values that are at stake.

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Speaker 2: Kimmy was more interested in yesterday's a risk.

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Speaker 7: The pictures of him being arrested yesterday will be a

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Speaker 7: defining moment in Kirs Starmer's premiership. February twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 7: Kirs Starmer was you calling him, you know, our Peter,

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Speaker 7: and seeing what a wonderful man he is despite everything

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Speaker 7: that he knew about.

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Speaker 8: Lord Mandelson of.

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Speaker 2: The Levim's has jumped on board the andrew Try.

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Speaker 9: Their association with Epstein and their actions on his behalf,

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Speaker 9: while trusted with the privilege of public office, are a

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Speaker 9: stain on our country today. We must begin to clean

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Speaker 9: away that stain with the disinfectant of transparency.

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Speaker 2: And the Trade Minister thought he might add a boot

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Speaker 2: or two as well.

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Speaker 10: A man on a constant self aggrandizing and self enriching hustle,

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Speaker 10: a rude, arrogant and entitled man who could not distinguish

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Speaker 10: between the public interest which he said he served and

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Speaker 10: his own private interest.

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Speaker 2: In side side and the Guthrie case, the reward goes

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Speaker 2: up as the realization sinks, then.

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Speaker 11: We need to know where she is. We need her

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Speaker 11: to come home. We are offering a family reward of

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Speaker 11: up to one million dollars for any information that leads

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Speaker 2: And that is news of the world. In ninety China

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Speaker 2: Central Bank benchmark lending rates unchanged again. They've done that

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Speaker 2: for ten months now. One year at three percent, five

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Speaker 2: year at three point five percent. The currency strengthens, or

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Speaker 2: that's the thinking behind it. And if you can believe

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Speaker 2: this the new global tariff this morning from Trump. He

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Speaker 2: said it was going to be ten, then he said

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Speaker 2: it was going to be fifteen. What is it as

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Speaker 2: of this morning? Ten? It's according to official documents, they've

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Speaker 2: been set at the lower rate. No directive issued for fifteen.

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Speaker 2: In terms of uncertainty, we're back to where we were

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Speaker 2: last year. Is that a taco trade or is that

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Speaker 2: a taco trade? Eleven Past.

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Speaker 2: Evy alban Easy was forced to evacuate the lodge last night.

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Speaker 2: This was in Canberra. There was a security threat. He

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Speaker 2: was out for three hours after the threat first emerged

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Speaker 2: and then returned. We still don't know why or what

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Speaker 2: it was, so Steve on that later A fourteen passed

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Speaker 2: Andrew Feller her.

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Speaker 8: Good morning there in the morning, Mike.

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Speaker 2: It'd be a weird old day. PGG writings weren't doing

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Speaker 2: okay at the moment, wouldn't it, given what's happening on

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Speaker 2: the land.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely, So, while we've got all this sort of tariff

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Speaker 12: chaos swirling around us, I seem to I read something somewhere, Mike,

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Speaker 12: and I could be making this up, but I do

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Speaker 12: seem to recall this that somebody had done some research

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Speaker 12: into Trump and they reckoned that only about a quarter

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Speaker 12: of what he says on tariff's actually pans out, so

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Speaker 12: three quarter as well as Now, I could be making

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Speaker 12: that up, but.

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Speaker 2: I think there's about treandom and thirty million Americans working

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Speaker 2: that out at the moment.

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Speaker 8: So we've got that swirling around us.

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Speaker 12: But we've got a number of companies revealing how they're

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Speaker 12: getting on. And I thought yesterday was interesting because those

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Speaker 12: companies that you could sort of take a selection out

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Speaker 12: that give us a bit of lens into how different

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Speaker 12: sectors or parts of the economy are going. PGG Rights

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Speaker 12: is yes, listed business, very long pedigree farm supplies or

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Speaker 12: agri supplies business. It was created through the merger of

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Speaker 12: Pinegul Guinness and right since back in two thousand and five.

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Speaker 12: But you can trace the history of the underlying parts

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Speaker 12: and seventy years, so very much part and pastor of

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Speaker 12: the rural framework of New Zealand, the agri economy.

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Speaker 8: It's been one of our key performers of the last.

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Speaker 12: Year or two, which at a high level, yes, you're right,

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Speaker 12: would suggest it's a supporting operating a supportive operating environment

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Speaker 12: for PGG rises, and pleasingly the first half results do

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Speaker 12: seem to support that hypothesis.

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Speaker 8: So you've got a nine percent lift.

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Speaker 12: In half year revenue six hundred and ninety million, operating

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Speaker 12: earnings are eleven percent. That lifted their net profit out

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Speaker 12: a tax as well, and you can see a very

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Speaker 12: clear illustration here of how that commodity price cycle impacts

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Speaker 12: on the wider economy because you get good prices for

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Speaker 12: your products. So let's look at say Keywi fruit apples.

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Speaker 12: The growers are more confident and they're the better place,

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Speaker 12: so they use more of PGG rights and products and

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Speaker 12: advisory services. You've seen the same thing in the result

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Speaker 12: from red meat markets as well.

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Speaker 8: That the price has been very strong.

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Speaker 12: They're got lots of US demand again that has lifted

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Speaker 12: the use of the PGG services in that sector from farmers.

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Speaker 8: So their outlook is positive and support if they're on.

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Speaker 12: Track to metfolio guidance and share price up two cents yesterday,

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Speaker 12: but so good.

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Speaker 2: Yeahs working there. You can steal. I'm correct in saying

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Speaker 2: they've had troubles, haven't.

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Speaker 12: I They have, So now you move to a different sector,

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Speaker 12: one with a less robust macro environment. So their first

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Speaker 12: half year result was a round market expectations. They did

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Speaker 12: have an acquisition through the reporting period of roofing business,

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Speaker 12: but you take that out and here's the nugget of

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Speaker 12: five percent. Volumes are up, so demand for steel was

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Speaker 12: there and has improved. So you know what my match

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Speaker 12: has been lately, Mike. We're seeing improvement, but it's not exploding.

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Speaker 12: It's slow and incremental improvements. That's what you're seeing here.

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Speaker 12: But they reported their first year on year growth in

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Speaker 12: underlying volumes since the twenty twenty two financial year. Now

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Speaker 12: it's transacment business thirty nine percent of the revenues in New Zealand.

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Speaker 12: Just look trawl through the report for comments on New

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Speaker 12: Zealand specifically, what do we get emerging evidence of an

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Speaker 12: economic recovery their words, that's following a period of supportive

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Speaker 12: interst rate levels. Residential consents improving, we talk about that

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Speaker 12: a lot, but non residential consents are lagging. So we're

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Speaker 12: still not seeing movement in non residential consens. Volumes showing

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Speaker 12: early signs of improving, but industrial profitability remains depressed.

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Speaker 8: You know, I've said this.

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Speaker 12: Mike, profitability is a little bit as a profitability is

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Speaker 12: a little bit challenged at the moment. I'm worried we

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Speaker 12: get a bit of growth people put their prices up outlook,

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Speaker 12: lower interest rates are stimulating demand. A cautionary note here, though,

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Speaker 12: and we're seeing this in a number of context Mike.

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Speaker 12: The general election could impact on confidence and activity in

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Speaker 12: the second half of the year.

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Speaker 8: We probably don't want to see that.

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Speaker 2: No, we do not. And then we come to wendzed

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Speaker 2: Me knows about the radio.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, let's bring it home. Let's bring it home with

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Speaker 8: the mothership.

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Speaker 12: Mike, So yes, for people out there that may not

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Speaker 12: know it's the owner of News Talks eNB.

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Speaker 8: This is Mike's boss, so.

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Speaker 12: Slightly different window into the New Zealand economy. Not a

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Speaker 12: bad little lift in the share price this week I've

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Speaker 12: up over five percent.

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Speaker 8: This was described as a solid.

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Speaker 12: Result costroductionist lifts put in place in the twenty five

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Speaker 12: finitial year. They're now helping financial performance after tax net

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Speaker 12: profit thirteen point one million, earnings up fifteen percent. Cautious

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Speaker 12: optimism about the twenty six financial year. They noted that

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Speaker 12: activity and demand is lifting and yes, Mike I could

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Speaker 12: not miss I could not have missed the radio resurgence,

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Speaker 12: the audio business revenue growth of five percent, opportunity for

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Speaker 12: News Talk ZB. Everybody out there that's listening. Tell your

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Speaker 12: mates who aren't listening. If you want the news on

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Speaker 12: the election, come to News Talks EDB because that's going

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Speaker 12: to be your opportunity for twenty twenty six. Well, one

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Speaker 12: of the numbers AH the US market looking better. Dal

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Speaker 12: Jones is up point eight percent, four hundred and one

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Speaker 8: In fact, the S.

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Speaker 12: And P five hundred up points six eight percent forty

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Speaker 16: Yeah, we've grown twenty six different fruits. We've grown them

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Speaker 16: We're just supplying with all the nutrients that the tree

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Speaker 16: No, no, no, this isn't that kind of consumer bosting.

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Speaker 2: season six forty.

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Speaker 6: Five International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of

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Speaker 6: mind for New Zealand business.

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Speaker 2: Said Richarnal morning to you, good morning.

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Speaker 3: Make I love it.

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Speaker 2: How about you? We'll be watching, won't we?

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Speaker 17: Well, love might be too strong a word. The state

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Speaker 17: of the Union, addressed by Trump, though, is coming at

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Speaker 17: a challenging point. The White House for starters. Those poll

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Speaker 17: numbers right, they're tanking for the president. There's a slew

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Speaker 17: of new surveys and all of them look pretty bad

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Speaker 17: for Tim Trump. Where the US military is rapidly increasing

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Speaker 17: its presence near Iran and Trump openly weighing the prospect

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Speaker 17: of a war there that he is yet to explain

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Speaker 17: with the President's slamming as quote pathetic the Supreme Court

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Speaker 17: justices who overturned the bulk of his tariffs and who

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Speaker 17: will be setting right in front of him there tonight.

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Speaker 17: With inflation yet to be contained, interest rates remaining high,

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Speaker 17: government in a partials shut down, in a political face

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Speaker 17: off over the actions of ice immigration agents. Yeah, one

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Speaker 17: new poll says just thirty two percent of Americans think

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Speaker 17: Trump has the right priorities. Looking more deeply at some

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Speaker 17: of these poles, it is even more concerning for the

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Speaker 17: White House. Only thirty nine percent approve of the way

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Speaker 17: Trump is handling the job on specific issues, pretty tough,

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Speaker 17: fifty eight percent in a Washington Post ABC poll saying

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Speaker 17: they disapprove of the way Trump is handling immigration, once

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Speaker 17: his signature issue. Fifty seven percent disapprove of his handling

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Speaker 17: of the economy, Sixty four percent disapprove of his handling

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Speaker 17: of tariffs, the issue that still is in so much

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Speaker 17: confusion and flux. Sixty five percent disapprove of his handling

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Speaker 17: of inflation. Then you look at key voter groups. His

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Speaker 17: support among independence is way, way down, just twenty six

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Speaker 17: percent approved. So that's a fifteen point drop from a

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Speaker 17: year back. Among younger voters under forty five, there's an

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Speaker 17: eighteen point drop. Among Hispanic voters, Trump has a nineteen

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Speaker 17: point drop. So President Trump needs a major reset with

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Speaker 17: his speech tonight. He's going to talk about the economy,

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Speaker 17: they say, and he tried out some possible applause lines

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Speaker 17: for this.

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Speaker 18: We have a country that's now doing well.

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Speaker 3: We have the greatest economy we've ever had.

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Speaker 17: Many Americans say, yeah, they're not feeling it. The State

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Speaker 17: of the Union last year was a record lengths hour

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Speaker 17: and forty minutes. This time could be longer.

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Speaker 9: Going to be a long speech because we have so

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Speaker 9: much to talk about.

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Speaker 17: Well, it could also be a very different look. During

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Speaker 17: the Super Bowl, of course, some of those who didn't

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Speaker 17: want to hear from Bad Bunny tuned into kid Rock.

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Speaker 17: This time, it's the Dems who were boycotting, some thirty

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Speaker 17: Congress members saying they will stay away at a tend

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Speaker 17: a counter event being called the People's State of the Union.

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Speaker 17: One of these is Democrat Sarah Jacobs.

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Speaker 19: I'm not going to sit there and listen to Donald

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Speaker 19: Trump lie and try and say the economy is doing

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Speaker 19: well when everyone I know in San Diego can barely

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Speaker 19: get by. I'm not going to sit there and listen

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Speaker 19: to him say they're going after criminals when we know

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Speaker 19: the majority of people they're going after have no criminal

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Speaker 19: record and they're killing US citizens without any accountability.

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Speaker 17: Senator Adam Schiff also is one who says he is

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Speaker 17: going to be boycotting.

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Speaker 20: He says, I.

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Speaker 13: Will not give him the audience he craves for the

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Speaker 13: lies that he tells.

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Speaker 17: So will there be a host of empty seats? Some

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Speaker 17: other Polly's are inviting survivors of the Epstein pedophilia to

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Speaker 17: sit in the House chamber face to face with Trump.

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Speaker 17: So this could be a state of the disunion of

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Speaker 17: Note and boo.

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Speaker 2: How they going in New York with the weather?

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Speaker 3: Wow, good luck folks.

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Speaker 17: You know this is one of those days when it's

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Speaker 17: especially nice to be living in the western part of

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Speaker 17: this land. We have temps well above normal, while the

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Speaker 17: northeast is frigid. The massive blizzard le have tens of

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Speaker 17: millions of Americans dealing with one of the worst window

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Speaker 17: storms in years, Hundreds of thousands of people people without power.

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Speaker 17: At this minute. New York Central Park is under that

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Speaker 17: thick snow blanket, complete white out if you've seen the photos.

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Speaker 17: Rhode Island got about a metersworth of snow, record by

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Speaker 17: a wide margin. School is out in Boston for another day.

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Speaker 17: New York kids have been told to turn up for

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Speaker 17: class to know hown'ty're going to be able to The

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Speaker 17: new mayor of NYC's or in Mandani has doubled the

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Speaker 17: pain for emergency snow shovelers, and another snow front has

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Speaker 17: headed their way in the next day or so. Flights,

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Speaker 17: of course, in Chaos. A couple of thousand flights were

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Speaker 17: canned early on today, says one would be traveler.

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Speaker 21: My first flight was out of Newark yesterday night, canceled,

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Speaker 21: rebooked for this morning in Philadelphia, canceled, rebooked for the

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Speaker 21: middle of the day around one today in Philadelphia, canceled.

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Speaker 17: Well, this is also affecting international flights, says another tourist.

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Speaker 3: Hey, guys, I'm stranded in Brazil. We're stranded in Brazil, shocking.

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Speaker 17: Hey, might have to spend the day on.

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Speaker 2: Cope on a beach. Yeah, exactly. Go well, mate, Richard.

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Speaker 2: We've got an offspring in Dallas looking to move on

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Speaker 2: to the other side of the world. Done. We're fingers

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Speaker 2: crossed that the weather's okay. By the way, betting, there's

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Speaker 2: millions being bet on the state of the Union this

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Speaker 2: afternoon on the poly market. So ninety five percent of

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Speaker 2: people say he's going to use the word China. I

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Speaker 2: think it's a fairly safe bet. Ninety two percent say

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Speaker 2: he'll use the word Biden. How many times are you

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Speaker 2: going to say America or American twenty five times more

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Speaker 2: or less. How many times are you going to say

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Speaker 2: million billion or trillion more or less than fifteen times?

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Speaker 2: Seven percent say he's going to use the word discombobulator

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Speaker 2: as regards Maduro. So if you put a thousand on that,

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Speaker 2: you get fourteen and a half thousand back, that's worth

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Speaker 2: a go. Fourteen percent reckons he's going to mention Epstein

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Speaker 2: or the files. Length is the key, that's where all

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Speaker 2: the money is. Most people say longer than now, though

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Speaker 2: I would have thought that's a laid down Massea. Thirty

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Speaker 2: eight percent think it's going to be more than two.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. Average is fifty eight historically, but

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Speaker 2: the average length for him is eighty good luck, ten

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Speaker 2: to seven, the.

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Speaker 1: Mic Hosking, breakfast with the defender, and use togs deadbs.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of people have been focused on

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Speaker 2: the Guthrie case in Arizona, but there's been a similar

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Speaker 2: case in Australia that came to a tragic conclusion yesterday

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Speaker 2: involving a guy called Begsarian, Chris Begsarian, and he was

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Speaker 2: an eighty five year old and he was nabbed from

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Speaker 2: his house and it seemed no one could work out

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Speaker 2: why until they worked out that actually it was a

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Speaker 2: case of mistaken identity. Stepanion were the neighbors, the Stapanion family,

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Speaker 2: and they've got form as in criminal Begsarian had none.

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Speaker 2: So some people came to the wrong house and they

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Speaker 2: grabbed Bgsarian and he turned up dead yesterday. He's eighty

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Speaker 2: five year old. So there's a family in mourning there

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Speaker 2: and now tragically the people who were after the Stipanions

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Speaker 2: are trolling them on Twitter or social media saying how

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Speaker 2: could you get the wrong house? A bunch of losers.

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Speaker 2: So it's a dreadful, dreadful business. So the remains were

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Speaker 2: found yesterday, but we'll have more with Steve Price al

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Speaker 2: oter on this morning. The other thing was a tea quit.

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Speaker 2: Definitely Peter a tear. My wife knows more about him

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Speaker 2: than I do in the sense that he's a heavyweight

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Speaker 2: in the medical circles and longevity and he's been a

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Speaker 2: great success story. He came from an interesting past in

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Speaker 2: the sense he used to be a bit troubled, but

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Speaker 2: he got his act together. When he was troubled, he

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Speaker 2: was involved with Epstein and this is where it's all

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Speaker 2: gone wrong for him, so there were emails back and forth.

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Speaker 2: There's no suggesting he did anything wrong. But the argument

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Speaker 2: now in America is he probably, being a medico, should

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Speaker 2: have reported Epstein. He claims he didn't know. Anyway, the

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Speaker 2: pressure has been on him for the last couple of days.

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Speaker 2: He's sort of he kind of works for CBS, and

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Speaker 2: CBS have kind of sacked them while he's quit. So

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Speaker 2: he's another one of those sort of victims that seemingly

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Speaker 2: was in the wrong place at the wrong time, didn't

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Speaker 2: necessarily do anything wrong. But now reputations taste five minutes

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Speaker 2: away from seven.

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Speaker 3: The ins and the outs. It's the biz.

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Speaker 1: With business tiber take your business productivity to the next

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Speaker 1: level to happen.

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Speaker 2: FedEx first in line to sue Trump over the tariffs.

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Speaker 2: Plaintives seek for themselves a full refund from defendants of

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Speaker 2: all aeper duties plaintiffs paid to the United States. This

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Speaker 2: is em FedEx's lawsuit. They say they don't say how

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Speaker 2: much they're after, but it's one hundred and thirty billion.

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Speaker 2: That's for everybody paid by the US, ninety percent of

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Speaker 2: it paid by Americans. Of course, despite the fact Trump

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Speaker 2: told them the Americans wouldn't pay. How it will be

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Speaker 2: when this aw goes wrong, and I'm increasingly convinced it's

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Speaker 2: going to and when I say wrong, the midterms are

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Speaker 2: going to be a disaster. And the second part of

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Speaker 2: Trump's terms is going to be a disaster as well.

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Speaker 2: This will be the greatest lesson that it's one thing

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Speaker 2: to get it wrong politically or economically. Stuff happens to

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Speaker 2: politicians you can't see coming. But to try and explain

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Speaker 2: to Americans that they weren't going to pay the tariffs

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Speaker 2: defies any level of brain power, especially in a country

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Speaker 2: like New Zealand who's dealt with terror frey trade for years.

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Speaker 2: And how he thought he'd get away with that He

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Speaker 2: either didn't know, which I refused to believe, or he

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Speaker 2: thought that people wouldn't trigger, which I also refuse to believe.

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Speaker 2: So you can see the quandary. I mean, I just

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Speaker 2: can't believe how stupid he's been. But nevertheless, the Americans

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Speaker 2: are paying for it anyway. FedEx Costco are in the

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Speaker 2: line this morning. Revlon Bumblebee Foods. I don't know Bumblebe Foods,

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Speaker 2: but they want a bit of bit money back.

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Speaker 22: So yeah, so no chance he comes out today, and

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Speaker 22: instead of saying the state of the Union is strong,

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Speaker 22: he'll say the state of the Union is wrong.

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Speaker 2: I think the chance of that happening is zero. So

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Speaker 2: what are we doing with this latest health app? Is

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Speaker 2: it a hack or is it something different? I think

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Speaker 2: we've got a bit of insight into a medimap for you.

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Speaker 2: In a couple of moments, we'll talk to the we'll

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Speaker 2: talk to the director of Medimap directly after the news

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Speaker 2: which is next here at newstalg ZEDB.

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Speaker 3: Credible, compelling.

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Speaker 1: The breakfast show you confess, it's the Mic Hosking Breakfast

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Speaker 1: with Vida, Retirement Communities, Life Your Way, News.

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Speaker 2: Dogs dB seven past seven. So what is it with

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Speaker 2: the health app? So medimap is used by up to

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Speaker 2: sixty percent of care facilities, taken off line. Patients records

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Speaker 2: were altered comes just weeks after Manage My Health. Of course.

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Sayer is Medimp's direct and us with us. Good morning,

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Speaker 2: Good morning man. Is this your worst nightmare?

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Speaker 23: Possibly? Possibly? I think the key part is how we

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Speaker 23: respond to it, and I think we're responding quite well

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Speaker 23: to that.

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Speaker 2: What's the state of play as you speak to us

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Speaker 2: this morning?

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Speaker 23: Okay? So, where we're at. Just to give an update,

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Speaker 23: we've discovered an instagram Sunday about one point thirty pm.

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Speaker 23: We shut the system down for precaution and for containment,

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Speaker 23: and then we've involved independent experts to suppose a system

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Speaker 23: analysis of what the impact and the impact across the

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Speaker 23: different facilities and the impact across individual patients.

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Speaker 2: Do you know who it is?

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Speaker 23: No, these sorts of people don't necessarily say you they are.

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Speaker 16: We've had no.

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Speaker 23: Reason to believe this is a cyber attack. Unfortunately. This

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Speaker 23: is the case of someone's stealing credentials and using those

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Speaker 23: credentials of a legitimate user of medimap to cause this harm.

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Speaker 2: So is it a would you call it a hack?

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Speaker 2: Or is it potentially someone the furious who's got access

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Speaker 2: to your system anyway and using it for other purposes.

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Speaker 23: Yeah. What people would imagine a cider hack is is

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Speaker 23: you've come in and brute force and you've gone through

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Speaker 23: a vulnerability in the software or the platform. This has

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Speaker 23: not been the case. They've use credentials to come in

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Speaker 23: for all intent purposes. They look like a regular user,

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Speaker 23: but what they started to do was not what a

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Speaker 23: regular user does, which is why we shut the system

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Speaker 23: down and contained it and are now working with forensic

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Speaker 23: experts and governmental agencies to understand what's happened and then

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Speaker 23: how do we bring this back online for people?

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Speaker 2: So, this, to be clear, is different from manage my health.

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Speaker 23: Yes you would now I'm not one hundred percent intiment

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Speaker 23: with manage my health. But yes, this is someone's use

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Speaker 23: credentials as an individual and caused this harm.

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Speaker 3: Would difference?

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Speaker 2: Will you've given given? So this is what you'd loosely

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Speaker 2: call an FBI circles an inside job. If it's an

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Speaker 2: inside job, you'll be able to try, won't you.

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Speaker 23: We can trace it to a profile I suppose best

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Speaker 23: way to describe it mode, but we've subsequently have become

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Speaker 23: aware that that profile quite possibly had been compromised with

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Speaker 23: their credentials.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what do they want? What would you thinking at

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Speaker 2: this point be as to what they want? You know,

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk and people are dead and they're not there.

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Speaker 2: Is this some sort of what they would call a activist?

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Speaker 23: I wouldn't. I don't want to drag this in the

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Speaker 23: political sort of agitation speech to keep hart for us

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Speaker 23: to understand how we're going to get patient care back

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Speaker 23: focused that's the focus for us. I'm not going to

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Speaker 23: suggest understand the minds of people who are prepared to

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Speaker 23: do this, but for us, we're really focused on helping

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Speaker 23: facilities to do a great job, and we're helping those

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Speaker 23: help them with their patients as well. We won't get

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Speaker 23: dragged in to make this a political platform for everyone.

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Speaker 2: But in terms of security, though, I mean manage my health,

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Speaker 2: in my humble opinion, didn't do a very good job.

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Speaker 2: If it's an inside job on your part, you would argue, still,

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Speaker 2: that's given your specific circumstances, your security solid, you run

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Speaker 2: a decent program, and trust isn't an issue for the

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Speaker 2: people who pay you money for your service.

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Speaker 23: We would argue that. But obviously, with these events, you

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Speaker 23: obviously would look at this tape stock get advice. We've

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Speaker 23: obviously got various people assisting us to make sure we're sarup.

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Speaker 23: We've got to be correct to you. We can't be incorrect,

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Speaker 23: slightly or mostly correct, so it's really important that we

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Speaker 23: get that information correct. It's also an opportunity to actually

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Speaker 23: understand how this has happened, how can we prevent it,

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Speaker 23: how can we harden the systems up. You would always

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Speaker 23: want to. Unfortunately, you've got to keep pace with the

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Speaker 23: bad guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jeffer appreciate it. Jeffrey Sayer, who's MEDIMAP directories,

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Speaker 2: are whether us out of Sydney this morning, so we

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Speaker 2: appreciate them getting up early. It's a liven minutes past seven.

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Speaker 2: I paid deal one for some of our schools. Primary

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Speaker 2: principles are voted to accept about thirteen hundred to covered.

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Speaker 2: It's a two point five percent rise, a further two

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Speaker 2: point one next year, and also fifteen thousand dollars curriculum

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Speaker 2: change allowance. There's also a boost literacy and numerous leadership.

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Speaker 2: It's an Erica Stamford, the Education Minister is with us.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Good morning mate. So how many down? How

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Speaker 2: many to go?

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Speaker 15: We have just got primary teachers to go. We've done

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Speaker 15: all the principles now and their secondary school teachers and

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Speaker 15: we've just got the primary teach.

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Speaker 2: And they're back today. What's wrong with the teachers because

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Speaker 2: the offer to them that they rejected is two point

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Speaker 2: five two point one, which is the same as the

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Speaker 2: principles as far as I can work out, and that's

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Speaker 2: similar numbers that the secondary teachers accepted. So what's the

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Speaker 2: primary teacher's problem.

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Speaker 15: Well, they've been talking a lot about wanting to have

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Speaker 15: the Treaty of White Hongey acknowledged in their agreement. Yes,

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Speaker 15: and then also they have been talking a lot about

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Speaker 15: teacher aids and classrooms. We have already delivered in last

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Speaker 15: year's budget the biggest increase in learning support and a

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Speaker 15: generation seven hundred and fifty million dollars, which includes hundreds

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Speaker 15: of thousands of hours of teacher aides.

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Speaker 3: So we have checked that off.

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Speaker 15: There's always more we can do, but that has been

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Speaker 15: already delivered through a budget.

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Speaker 2: We just need to do it through the Is the union,

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Speaker 2: particularly in this case a problem.

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Speaker 15: Look that the union are the union and they often

747
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Speaker 15: talk about things like the treaty and its place in

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Speaker 15: collective agreements.

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Speaker 2: Is that you're seriously telling me that's what's holding it up.

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Speaker 2: So the secondary teachers say yes please, principles say yes please.

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Speaker 2: But the primary teachers, as long as we can do

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Speaker 2: a bit more treaty stuff, we're not signed. Is that

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Speaker 2: what this is down to.

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Speaker 15: Well, it's one of the things that they've been talking about,

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Speaker 15: and it's one of the things that they raised with me,

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Speaker 15: and certainly when I went to their conference a couple

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Speaker 15: of years ago. It was the main it was the

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Speaker 15: main thrust of the conference.

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Speaker 2: So yes, So how does I take a Brian Roach's

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Speaker 2: running this, How does he get around that?

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Speaker 15: Well, he's already said to them that we here to

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Speaker 15: negotiate paying conditions and the treaty is not something that

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Speaker 15: we are going to negotiate on. So he's already made

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Speaker 15: that very clear. You know, we are here to implement

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Speaker 15: an enormous reform package to raise student achievement, and we're

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Speaker 15: here to look at classroom resources and professional learning and

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Speaker 15: development and help with the curriculum. Hence why we've settled

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Speaker 15: with the principles in that sort of manner around the.

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Speaker 2: Reform parent, do you think your average parent understands what's

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Speaker 2: going on here for their five year old seeing them

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Speaker 2: off to school. That's really about the treaty that told

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Speaker 2: them that next time the teachers are on strike.

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Speaker 15: Well, the NZDI have been clear about that, so it's

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Speaker 15: out there in the public and whether or not them

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Speaker 15: parents know about it, I don't know. But look, it

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Speaker 15: is frustrating when we are trying to make sure that

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Speaker 15: parents are getting reporting, clear reporting that they are having

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Speaker 15: twice yearly assessments to measure progress, and we are raising achievement.

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Speaker 15: You know, it is a bit frustrating to be held

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Speaker 15: up over these things. And look, it's not the only thing,

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Speaker 15: as I say, they're also talking about better learning support.

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Speaker 15: But as I say, we've already delivered a three quarter

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Speaker 15: of a billion dollar package in this area. So it

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Speaker 15: will be very frustrating if we're back to disruptions in

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Speaker 15: the classroom of something we've already delivered.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't groom put your immigration hat on? So the power

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Speaker 2: to ask suspected overstatus for identification and homes and workplaces.

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Speaker 2: Radio and New Zealand have managed to drum up a

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Speaker 2: lawyer this morning that suggests this is one step closer

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Speaker 2: to ice. Are we're heading towards ice in Minneapolis here?

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Speaker 24: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Look, of course not.

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Speaker 15: There is a very obvious gap where when we send

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Speaker 15: in a compliance officer to specifically go and ask someone

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Speaker 15: about something which we which quite often happens, they will

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Speaker 15: go to a workplace or a home, they'll be talking

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Speaker 15: to that person that they're there to see, and then

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Speaker 15: somebody else will jump out of a window and run

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Speaker 15: away or hide from them. Now it's clear that that

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Speaker 15: person clearly is in breach of their visa, but our

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Speaker 15: officers can do nothing about it. Currently, I don't have

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Speaker 15: the legal power to say to the person who's trying

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Speaker 15: to run or hide, hello, what's your name? They're not

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Speaker 15: allowed to do that. It is just it's a ridiculous

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Speaker 15: loophole that we are closing. It does not mean that

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Speaker 15: they will be able to walk down the street and

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Speaker 15: ask you for your identification papers. It will be in

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Speaker 15: their normal course of duty when they're out seeing someone else,

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Speaker 15: if they have reasonable grounds, and that'll be the key

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Speaker 15: to ask that person for identification. So, of course I

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Speaker 15: know the lawyer who have gone on iron zed and

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Speaker 15: it is what iron Z does. But it is a

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Speaker 15: very clear lapole we're trying to close.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your time, Erica Stanford, Minister of Education and Minister

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Speaker 2: of Immigration. And then there are the two sides of

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Speaker 2: New Zealand as I understand them at the moment. One

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Speaker 2: a person who's trying to fix and rectify the place.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, people who are hell bent on

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Speaker 2: keeping us in misery and being downtrodden. Sixteen Past.

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Speaker 1: The High Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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Speaker 2: revenue streams in Wellington. So the council pulls and five

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Speaker 2: point eight million a year. That's their biggest infringement earner.

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Speaker 2: Twenty six thousand drivers a court on the Cambridge Terrace

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Speaker 2: bus lane alone, that's an average of fifty five a day.

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Speaker 2: The tickets a hundred and fifty dollars. Andrew Little's the

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Speaker 2: Mayrior and he's with us Andrew morning morning. This is

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Speaker 2: the terrent versus revenue.

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Speaker 15: Or what Well.

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Speaker 25: I don't want it to be revenue at all. We

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Speaker 25: don't want to want to generate revenue by penalizing people.

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Speaker 25: So look, the bus lanes are there for a reason.

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Speaker 25: We want the buses to run on time. There is

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Speaker 25: a genuine question about whether the bus lanes need to

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Speaker 25: be designated that twelve hours a day, seven days a week.

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Speaker 25: So I think there is a question there, and my

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Speaker 25: own experience, particularly Cambridge Terra says I'm not sure about

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Speaker 25: the quality of the signage, so I think that doesn't

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Speaker 25: need to be looked at. And so what we're seeing

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Speaker 25: is the number of people being pinned has been decreasing

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Speaker 25: month by months, but are still high. And I think

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Speaker 25: those questions arise, do you have the.

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Speaker 2: Power to do anything about it or do you have

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Speaker 2: to get the whole council to agree with you.

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Speaker 25: Oh, the council has to agree, but it doesn't stop

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Speaker 25: us making an effort to review it and look at

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Speaker 25: it and see if we can come up with a solution.

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Speaker 25: But it's just both objectives. Both the busses the need

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Speaker 25: to meet a schedule and get on time at the

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Speaker 25: times they are operating, but also people having access to

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Speaker 25: the road in a sensible sort of way so they

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Speaker 2: And the cars good stuff. Well, hopefully something good comes

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Speaker 2: you a bunch of dick kids, do something about it,

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Speaker 2: so they changed it finishes at ten o'clock in the morning,

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00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 2: we got twenty percent off the slip Drops for the

874
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: kids and the teens, twenty percent off the Meat Today

875
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: Children's herbal range, twenty five percent of the Vitamin C

876
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: Lipos sachets for the kids, thirty five percent off the

877
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: Thompsons Junior Immuno fort that's the ninety tabs for immune

878
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 2: nutrition and real value.

879
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 18: Got it all.

880
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: Also, by the way, the Everyday mustaps. What have we

881
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 2: got up to thirty percent off the Baby Love, twenty

882
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: five percent off the Huggies Echo Store Kids range, and

883
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: ear protection for swimming with thirty five percent off makes

884
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 2: kids earplugs. But you'll need to be quick, as I say,

885
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: the Chemist Warehouse Kids Week sale ends to night see

886
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 2: if you do it in store, you do it online,

887
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: and you say, but these are great savings every day

888
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: with chemist Warehouse asking seven twenty four. Marilyn Wearing remember

889
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: the name. Once an activist, always an activist, took it

890
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: upon herself to form her own select Committee if you

891
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: don't mind, and she and a bunch of other MPs

892
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: and interested parties open their doors for submissions on pay

893
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: equity and the changes the government made that they don't like.

894
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 8: Now.

895
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: When doors like that are opened, people of like minds

896
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: tend to wander through, and they sit around all agreeing

897
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 2: with each other about how bad things are. The Ensuing report,

898
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 2: which came out yesterday, tells you exactly what you thought

899
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: it might.

900
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 8: Now.

901
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: The problem with pay equity is it's an unsolvable problem

902
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 2: unless you take on a North Korea Cuba type view

903
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 2: of the world and simply get the government to make

904
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: all the rules. The simple toruth of it is different

905
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: jobs have different values. Another truth, as some women choose

906
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: work that doesn't pay as much as other work men

907
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: do as well, but not as much. Some of the

908
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: work that doesn't pay as much as predominantly done by women.

909
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 2: The most famous case involved a woman called Bartlet and

910
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: the aged care sector, rightly or wrongly, jobs of compassion

911
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: and care tend to be done by females. I would

912
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 2: argue that's largely because they tend to be nicer people overall,

913
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 2: But that would probably lead to a charge of me

914
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: being sexist, which I am not. What I am is

915
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 2: a realist, and you can see the issue. Should age

916
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: care workers be paid more? Probably? But if they were,

917
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: who would fit that bill? Well, the people paying the

918
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 2: age care bills obviously, Could we artificially boost their pay? Well,

919
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 2: that is where we got into dreadful trouble. They ended

920
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 2: up comparing aged care workers with mechanics and got a

921
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 2: mass of pay rise troublers. It was always false. Mechanics

922
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 2: are not age care workers anymore than air stewards are.

923
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 2: Or you can look for commonalities, twist logic all you want,

924
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: but you either artificially mess with it or you let

925
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: the market be the market. Most jobs have a rationale

926
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: as to why they pay what they do, and at

927
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: all times, all jobs are open to all people, depending

928
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 2: on desire and skill. So essentially Marilyn and her mates

929
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: have wasted their time. Logic wins, the market wins if

930
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: you want more money, do a job that pays more

931
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 2: male or female?

932
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: Osking?

933
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: Was that thing that surprise to you that they're hanging

934
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: out for the Treaty of Whitang. It was a surprise

935
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 2: to me. I thought it was about money. But because

936
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: last time we did a story on this program about

937
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 2: the primary schools, they were telling us how the kids

938
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 2: were coming to school and they couldn't hold a pencil.

939
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: Remember that story a couple of weeks ago, to come

940
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: to school. They couldn't hold a pencil, and they didn't

941
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: know their name, and they couldn't spell their name, and

942
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: they couldn't read, They couldn't write, they couldn't toilet. That

943
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 2: was seemingly their major problem. But of course, knowing about

944
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 2: the Treaty Waitang is going to fix that because once

945
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: you know about the Treaty WAITANGI, you can instantly hold

946
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: a pencil. Isn't that how it works or not? I

947
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: don't know. So what's the real problem here, kids who

948
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 2: are not being educated properly at preschool and therefore turn

949
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 2: up at primary school ill prepared and ill equipped to

950
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 2: deal with the modern education system. Or are we worried

951
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 2: about the Treaty of Whiteang I mean, for God's sake,

952
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: if I was Brian Roach, I'd retire. Not that he's

953
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 2: not doing a good job, but how many days do

954
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: you want to go to the office to deal with

955
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 2: crap like that? I mean, honestly, and I mean how

956
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: long before the primary union? So you've got the principles.

957
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: They've ticked it off, the secondaries have ticked it off.

958
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 2: It's all money wise, it's all roughly the same. It's

959
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: about two point five and two point one. So the

960
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 2: money's there. It's not great. Would you like more? Sure?

961
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: If I had more money, i'd pay you more money.

962
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: But we don't have any money. We've got less than

963
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: no money. You can thank your labor union mates for that.

964
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: So we've all agreed on the money. But on I

965
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 2: just let's have another chat about the Treaty of wire Tangy.

966
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 2: Shall we talk about hold the country back?

967
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 18: Now?

968
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: Having wound myself up a little bit there, I get

969
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 2: to Mitch Barnett, who's off. For goodness sake, the Warrior

970
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 2: season hasn't even started.

971
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 3: More on the shortly, no fluff, just facts and fierce debate.

972
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: The Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Defender, Embrace the impossible

973
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: news togsda'd be well it.

974
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 2: Six Wereenceday Marke, Mitchell, Ginny Anderson up who run Scott

975
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 2: McLaughlin by the way for Indy. He's on the program

976
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: after eight tomorrow, so something to look forward to speaking.

977
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: He's fort twenty three minutes away from the season, has

978
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 2: and even started getting the Warriors a losing place for goodness.

979
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: Like k captain Mitch Bunette will depart at the end

980
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 2: of the season. He's heading back to Australia for family reasons,

981
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: club releasing him for the final year of his deal.

982
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: Cameron George is of course the Warriors CEO and it's

983
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 2: back with us. Cameron morning, Good morning Mike. We've been

984
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 2: here before, haven't we.

985
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 26: Yeah, we have in different circumstances. This one is quite

986
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 26: personal and we good work through it with Mitchell over

987
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 26: the last few weeks and there's no better place for

988
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 26: him to be than back home with family support. Mate.

989
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 26: So it's unfortunate because he's been such a great leader

990
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 26: and it is a great leader for our foota club

991
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 26: and he'll he'll chip in this year and have a

992
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 26: big crack and he and his family we'll head back

993
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 26: to the best place for them at the end of

994
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 26: this year.

995
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: Would was this always in the background and potentially going

996
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 2: to become an issue?

997
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 8: Oh?

998
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 26: Absolutely not. This this has come around you to, yeah,

999
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 26: health reasons, and it's come the light in the last

1000
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 26: month or so. So you know, this definitely hasn't hasn't

1001
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 26: been planned and wasn't was in the back of his mind.

1002
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 26: In fact, you know, at some stage recently we had

1003
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,399
Speaker 26: discussions about, you know, possibly extending. So he's a terrific person,

1004
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 26: terrific leader, and he's very very you know, sad about

1005
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 26: leaving our footay club because he's become an origin player

1006
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 26: and Australian player and a leader and he's really found

1007
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 26: his home. But circumstances just have changed dramatically.

1008
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 2: So did you think about the possibility and you know,

1009
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: assuming there's a good will on both sides, did you

1010
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 2: think about the possibility of living and go this year

1011
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: this season as well? Given you could argue, couldn't you

1012
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: that a guy's out the door mentally might not be

1013
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: that prison on the field.

1014
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,479
Speaker 23: No, not at all, Mitch.

1015
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 26: Mitch ain't like that. You know, we had been in

1016
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 26: the sanctum yesterday to hearhim speak to his teammates and no, Look,

1017
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 26: if that was what Mitch wanted, we may have sat

1018
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 26: with him and considered that, but it's not a necessity

1019
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 26: at this point in time. And look, we would have

1020
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 26: been men left shorthanded with depth and players in that area.

1021
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 26: Mitch is the last thing he wants to do is

1022
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 26: do that to our footy club. So I was never

1023
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 26: ever mentioned and we can manage through the short term,

1024
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 26: but certainly needs to be home late this year.

1025
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: Is this just going to be an issue for the

1026
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 2: Warriors If you have an Australian here, getting them here

1027
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: in the first place is a bit of an issue.

1028
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: If you get them here, then at some point, at

1029
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: some times, something may come up and it is what

1030
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: it is.

1031
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 26: Yeah, Look, I just want to be really clear here.

1032
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 26: I just want to park Mitch's circumstances. They are certainly

1033
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 26: very different to what I've dealt with in the past.

1034
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 26: But yeah, look, certainly in the past we've had players

1035
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 26: from offshore, you know, get the homesickness or just need

1036
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 26: to be back home for whatever reason, and you've got

1037
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 26: to play it a case by case. But you know,

1038
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 26: equally we've had KEYWI players come the other way. James

1039
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 26: Fishahara's charms, nickel clock stat and the likes on compassionate ground.

1040
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 26: So it is and it is something that does come

1041
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 26: up from time to time a lot with our club

1042
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 26: naturally because we're offshore. But you know, we just need

1043
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 26: to continue to do our hard work behind the scenes

1044
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 26: to make it a club they want to be at.

1045
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 26: And we do a lot of work with the families

1046
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 26: away from footing and so on and make them and

1047
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 26: embrace them here in New Zealand. And it's something that

1048
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 26: I only will ever go away, but it's something that

1049
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 26: you know, we've tried to get right all the time

1050
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 26: and it is part of our due diligence process when

1051
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 26: we when we talk to the players. But you know yourself,

1052
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 26: things can change. But I don't want to be that

1053
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 26: club that dismisses what's really important to the person rather

1054
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 26: than the player, and that's that's family and so on,

1055
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 26: because I feel like that's also an attraction to our

1056
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 26: footy club that we do deal with things like this

1057
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 26: on a case by case basis in a possile big way.

1058
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: Good, Hey, you've lost twice pre season. Now what are

1059
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: we doing about this?

1060
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 26: Trials mate? Look that the pre season is all about

1061
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 26: the kids. It's all about getting things right. Well, we

1062
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 26: had nine NRL players not played last weekend deliberately because

1063
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 26: of the All Stars and and something, but equally, nine

1064
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 26: young kids got an opportunity to play. And when you

1065
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 26: look at last week's game against reg IF, in the

1066
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 26: first half, we're well and truly up and Adam and

1067
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 26: we had all those players out. They had their best

1068
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 26: team on there apart from the Hammer, so really proud

1069
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 26: of that. And then when the kids went on there,

1070
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 26: they just you know, they let it slip away a

1071
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 26: little bit. But that's learnings, that's experience, and it'll count

1072
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 26: next Friday night, Mike, that's when it starts. You didn't

1073
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 26: win all her trials, which she certainly won all the races,

1074
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 26: and let's you know, let's go into the season very positive.

1075
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 3: Fill the house and you know, we've got we've got

1076
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 3: a bloody.

1077
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 26: Good team and plenty of depth, and that's something to

1078
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 26: this club and our fans should be really excited for

1079
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 26: the future.

1080
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 2: About I might go, well, Cameron George, who's the CEO

1081
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: Webster who's actually in charge of the team itself, is

1082
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 2: going to be on the program next week. By way

1083
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: of the he refers Friday to the Roosters, of course,

1084
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: which is the opening match. Speaking of which eighteen minutes

1085
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: away from eight Laski, Landy's is little should of a genius.

1086
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 2: He runs NRL. He's calling it Australia's and the Pacific's

1087
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: number one sport. Now they had their AGM the other day,

1088
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: record operating surplus of sixty four point eight million on

1089
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 2: top of the surplus of twenty four of sixty two

1090
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: point three so they're making money like this, note tomorrow

1091
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: eight hundred and forty five point six million in revenue,

1092
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 2: which is up one hundred and one million dollars. I mean,

1093
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: it's virtually a billion dollars sport, twenty percent increase in

1094
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: net assets. A lot of buzz in Australia, particularly at

1095
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,240
Speaker 2: the moment over the pending broadcast deal beyond twenty seven

1096
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: because the AFL got four point five billion, and the

1097
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: pressures on Blandy's to deliver something bigger for the NRL.

1098
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 2: So it's leguas booming I did note that Blandy's plane

1099
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 2: took off, was that yesterday's going to Vegas and had

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00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: to turn around. Mind you, a quantus plane, you begin

1101
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 2: to chatter a Quantus plane, what do you expect? Seventeen

1102
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: to two.

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00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: The Vice Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered

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00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: by News Talks at.

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00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: B fourteen Away from Ete, I mentioned Quantus a moment ago.

1106
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: Etyard overnight has announced their profit. Just the fifty percent

1107
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: jump in profit to just let's call it, seven hundred million,

1108
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: increased capacity, strong demand, lifted load factor, Passenger numbers up

1109
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 2: twenty one percent, fleets expanding, twenty nine new jets. They're

1110
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: seeing continued demand rising this year, load factors eighty eight

1111
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 2: percent last year. We're getting many many days at ninety percent.

1112
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: New markets are performing much better than they thought. They're

1113
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 2: into Prague, they're into Hanoi, they're into Hong Kong, they're

1114
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: further expanding into China, Southeast Asia, Europe. Wish they come here.

1115
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: They're a good airline. Focus on keeping the retrofit program

1116
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: on schedule because they had plain issues. Like everybody else,

1117
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 2: Tomorrow in New Zealand's going to announce a loss. I'll

1118
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: just reiterate the Yard number, seven hundred million dollars, profit,

1119
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 2: increase in passenger numbers twenty one percent. When does the

1120
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 2: New Zealand turn around? That's what I want to forget

1121
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 2: the numbers, all the bottom line yesterday tomorrow, I want

1122
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: to know. And Nichol's on the program Friday, am I

1123
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 2: correct and saying that the new head of the CEO

1124
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 2: of the New Zealand. What I want to know is

1125
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 2: when the turnaround's on, because this can't go on. It's

1126
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: going on for years, and I mean, yes there's engine

1127
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: troubles and yes there's plane troubles. I get all of that,

1128
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 2: but the demand is there. The world is flying, and

1129
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 2: they're flying at the front of the plane. Eventually we've

1130
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 2: got to at some point demand something that looks like

1131
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 2: a pathway that leads us to the days when in

1132
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: New Zealand we're making five or six hundred million dollars

1133
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 2: profit a year. How long before we get back to there?

1134
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,439
Speaker 2: Then we come to speaking of only fifty thousand dollars,

1135
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 2: which doesn't bother me in the slightest is what it

1136
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 2: cost to inquire into no Lean Tarrua and that whole

1137
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 2: silver Fern's nonsense high performance sports money. Darren Shann remember

1138
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: the name of the All X manager. Actually get me

1139
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 2: on to the union. What's going on with the union?

1140
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 2: For God's sake? As this inventor job time at the

1141
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: New Zealand Rugby Union. So they haven't got a CEO,

1142
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 2: they haven't got a coach, but we've got time to

1143
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 2: invent new jobs. And the guy who's the interim CEO

1144
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: gets one of those new jobs, which means I'm assuming

1145
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 2: he wanted to be the CEO, but he's not the CEO.

1146
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: He's now one of the new job people. I mean,

1147
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: come on, when does it stop looking ridiculous and start

1148
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:15,879
Speaker 2: to look like a team that might win the World Cup?

1149
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: Where was I high Performance Sport in New Zealand. They

1150
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 2: hired dal Darren Shand and Tracy Fear and they had

1151
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: a look around the place and they spent fifty thousand

1152
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 2: dollars on it. That's not the problem. The problem is

1153
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 2: the problem. Did they, in looking at the silver ferns,

1154
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: solve the problem? So the CEO's gone, the chairman's gone,

1155
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 2: several of the board members are gone. As far as

1156
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: I know, there are no replacements. So they're like the

1157
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 2: rugby Union. They've got no one working at the place.

1158
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 2: And the problem was people felt quote unquote unsafe. So

1159
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 2: what do you get for your fifty thousand dollars? I

1160
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 2: don't mind spending money on stuff that you can go Well,

1161
00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 2: we spent fifteen years what we got?

1162
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 3: Do you get.

1163
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: A lot of sports in a lot of trouble in

1164
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: this country? Aren't they living away from it?

1165
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: The mic asking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News talks indeed.

1166
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 2: Away from it? To the Royal Mession of Sakia wants

1167
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: to get Andrew off the succession list. Doesn't appear to

1168
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 2: be a problem as we join the list of those

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00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 2: in the Commonwealth happy to help.

1170
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 3: Now.

1171
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: We haven't written a letter like Elbow has, but we

1172
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 2: have flagged our agreement for this anyway. Robert Hartman's Royal

1173
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 2: correspondent of ours News in London with us morning mate,

1174
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: Good morning mate. The move on the line of succession?

1175
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 3: Is it real?

1176
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 2: Is it going to happen and win?

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Speaker 24: Well, these are very good questions.

1178
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 8: It is real.

1179
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 24: There is a real appetite for it. Just today in

1180
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 24: Parliament in London it's being discussed, which is in itself

1181
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 24: as unusual. But everyone is very conscious that there is

1182
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 24: a legal process going on here and if you in

1183
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 24: any way jeopardize that, you could you could actually curtail

1184
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,320
Speaker 24: a court case. So I don't think anything's going to

1185
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 24: happen un till we've had some sort of resolution to

1186
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 24: the to the legal process. At the moment, Prince Andrew

1187
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:11,280
Speaker 24: as was now Andrew Manbert Windsor you know, he's been arrested,

1188
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 24: but he hasn't been charged with anything, so we have

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00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 24: to wait and see where that goes. But generally speaking,

1190
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 24: the view is regardless of the outcome of that legal process,

1191
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 24: he has behaved so appallingly in so many ways that

1192
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 24: no one wants him anywhere near the throne anyway. So

1193
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 24: let's let's let's kick him off the line of succession.

1194
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 24: For that to Hamm it has to be agreed by

1195
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 24: all fifteen realms, not just Britain, not just New Zealand,

1196
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 24: but Canada, Australia, Jamaica, other Caribbean realms, two Volu happening, Guinea,

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00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 24: all these places. They've all got to agree and it's

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00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 24: it's not that complicated, but it does. It just requires

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Speaker 24: a lot of paperwork. It did happen before it happened.

1200
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 24: In twenty eleven, all the realms got together to change

1201
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 24: the rules so that a boy should no longer try girl.

1202
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 24: It was just after Woodham and Catherine's wedding. Everyone thought,

1203
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 24: it's going to look really bad if they have a girl,

1204
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 24: then they have a boy, and the boy jumps ahead

1205
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,919
Speaker 24: of the girl. So let's change the rules. And while

1206
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 24: we're at it, let's let's remove that bar on marrying

1207
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 24: Roman Catholics. So all that happened not that long ago.

1208
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:17,800
Speaker 8: It happened.

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00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 24: It took a few years to push it through, but

1210
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 24: it happened, and I imagine the same would happen this time.

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00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 2: With the papers being released. I watched the debate in

1212
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 2: the comments were the papers being released? Is there a

1213
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 2: political risk that what's in those papers shows a level

1214
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: of activity that should have been monitored more closely, and

1215
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 2: therefore there's fallout politically for them.

1216
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 24: Yeah, there's potential fallout for the Palace and also for

1217
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:48,320
Speaker 24: several British government departments because Andrew's position as this trade

1218
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 24: envoy was not only sanctioned by the Prome ministers back

1219
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 24: in two thousand and one, I mean back government departments

1220
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 24: were were sort of nominally in charge of him as

1221
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:03,919
Speaker 24: he went around the world on the sort of first

1222
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 24: class all expenses paid trips. In the British Foreign Office,

1223
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 24: the British Department of Trade and Industry, you had the

1224
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 24: Home Affairs Department, the Home Office which looks after the police,

1225
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 24: because he had police protections. So there are a lot

1226
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 24: of questions to be asked about how on earth did

1227
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 24: he end up leading this sort of extraordinary playboy last

1228
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 24: style at the taxpayers expense. But you know it'll take time,

1229
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 24: and as I said, there is a legal case going on,

1230
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 24: and everyone is very jumpy about checking stuff out in

1231
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 24: the public domain, which might somehow prejudice that court case.

1232
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 2: All right, mate, good catch up. Robert Hardman, Royal correspondent,

1233
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 2: five minutes away from eight Thomas Coglin's edded again this morning.

1234
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I'm drawing the same bow or to

1235
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 2: the link of bow that he is. Anyways, suggestion is

1236
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 2: that the baseload Future contracts on power of the LNG thing.

1237
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 2: So the argument would be that the government announces LNG,

1238
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 2: the industry goes off. Fu'll got more coverage. We're not

1239
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 2: going to have a bad winter like twenty four. So

1240
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 2: the Future's contracts have dropped thirteen to fifteen a megawa

1241
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 2: our thirteen to fifteen dollars a mega what our for

1242
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: seasons of twenty eight and twenty nine. The ben more

1243
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: prices are one thirty two and one twenty eight for

1244
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 2: twenty eight and twenty nine. So in other words, this

1245
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 2: is future. So in other words, what they're doing is

1246
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 2: they're seeing more power in the marketplace. The futures contract

1247
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 2: price is dropping, all of which the government may argue

1248
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 2: is a result of LNG. I'm not sure it's a

1249
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 2: result of LNG. I don't think that. I mean, you

1250
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 2: tell me when the LNG thing's opening. I mean, who's started,

1251
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 2: who's got the contract, how much is it going to cost?

1252
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 2: When's the opening game? I mean, come on, we don't

1253
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 2: know any of that. My figuring. It's really about the

1254
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 2: renewables and the amount of money that's been pumped into renewables.

1255
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 2: Eventually people are going, well, look, eventually it's got to

1256
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 2: be a windmill and there's got to be a few

1257
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: solar panels. So that would mean presumably at some point

1258
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 2: we've got more power than we actually need. So futures

1259
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: contracts are coming down in price. Away the upshot of

1260
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 2: it all read the whole thing, and the Herald's well

1261
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 2: worth reading it to good insight. Because everyone bitches about

1262
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 2: their power bill. It looks like big picture of the

1263
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 2: government are onto it. At last, and they might just

1264
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 2: have solved our problem, and the winter of twenty twenty

1265
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: four will fast become a distant memory. Mark and Jinny

1266
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 2: Politics Wednesday.

1267
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: Next, asking the questions others, won't the mic asking breakfast

1268
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 1: with Bailey's real estate altogether better? Across residential, commercial and

1269
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: rural news talks, He'd.

1270
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 14: Be there will lives, no dreams. Here, there was pain,

1271
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 14: there was who.

1272
00:59:53,320 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 2: Dance elbom Bray turns out, here's the truth about it.

1273
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: This is Moby Future, quiet as the album, and he's

1274
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 2: actually a hell of a nice guy. And I know

1275
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 2: this because I sat in the back of a Mini

1276
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 2: with him once, and it was back in the days

1277
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 2: when Dylan Tate and I worked on the Sunday Program.

1278
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 2: Remember the Sunday Program on Television One masqueraded as Current Affairs,

1279
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 2: but Dylan and I were on there trying to change

1280
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,479
Speaker 2: all of that. And Dylan, to his credit, I didn't

1281
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 2: understand it at the time and still don't, but nevertheless said,

1282
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 2: I think we're doing MOBI today. Mike and I thought

1283
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 2: it'd be nice if we did it in the back

1284
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 2: of a Mini. And in my early days with Dylan Tate,

1285
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 2: I'd say something like why but I soon learned not

1286
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: to ask those questions because Dylan just did his own thing,

1287
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 2: and so I said, sure, we'll do that in the

1288
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 2: back anyway. So Moby and I sat in the back

1289
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,439
Speaker 2: of a mini talking about his album and his life,

1290
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 2: and he was beside himself with anxiety. Mobe not Dylan.

1291
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 2: He was going to a record shop that day and

1292
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: to meet some of his fans, and he was beside

1293
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 2: himself as to whether anyone would turn up. And he said,

1294
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 2: he said, do you think anyone's going to turn up?

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Speaker 2: And I said, I mean, obviously, I said, of course

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Speaker 2: they will, Moby. Why wouldn't they because you're a rock star.

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Speaker 2: What I really wanted to say was how the hell

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Speaker 2: would I know? Mate? But anyway, nice guy.

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Speaker 22: Interesting meanal image, because I mean, Moby's quite little, isn't

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Speaker 22: he very small? And yeah, Dylan was quite at all,

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Speaker 22: wasn't he Dylan?

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Speaker 2: Yes he was, but he was the mini. He would

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Speaker 2: have to fold himself up mart he was. He was

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Speaker 2: outside the mine directorially being brilliant, while I see he

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Speaker 2: wasn't in there. Me and Moby were in the mini.

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Speaker 2: There was a cameraman.

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Speaker 22: So there's just two little blokes in the two little blokes.

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Speaker 2: In the back seat, but there was a cameraman there

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Speaker 2: as well. Anyway, there's fourteen of these songs one hour

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Speaker 2: and twenty five minutes. You're not going to hear that

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Speaker 2: on the radio anywhere else today. Now time for politics Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: Mark Mitchell's with us along with Ginny Anderson Morning Morning, Morning.

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Speaker 8: Morning Mate.

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Speaker 20: Jenny goes to the same anxiety when she does a

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Speaker 20: public meeting, wondering whether or not in one.

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Speaker 13: And Mark's cheeksy too chubby to get in the backset

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Speaker 13: of the money, so he's no.

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Speaker 2: Very good, thank you. I'll take that as a thank you.

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Speaker 1: There we go.

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Speaker 2: Now, what's going on? Ginny? You can give us the

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Speaker 2: inside Skinny Ginny on.

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Speaker 13: Sure after recovering from that was quite depressing, that Moby Meal.

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Speaker 2: It was he's a bit melancholic old maybe anyway, the

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Speaker 2: inside Skinny Jinny on viril V Little in Wellington radio silence.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 8: Is there?

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Speaker 4: Is?

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Speaker 8: There?

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Speaker 15: Is there?

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Speaker 13: As I think she's just been a strong like call

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Speaker 13: advocate for the many thousands of Wellington Tonians who want

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Speaker 13: a bit more information, and he's been quite quiet. I

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Speaker 13: think Andrew Little on the other side is doing a

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Speaker 13: good job. He's getting stuck in the air and trying

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Speaker 13: to do it. But you know, I've got mates who

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Speaker 13: around that coast. When the sea washes up, they have

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Speaker 13: to go clean off the front to their houses because

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Speaker 13: there's literally, you know, fecal matter on the front of

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Speaker 13: their houses. So people are pretty upset.

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Speaker 2: Should castrope? Why then, will tell me? And this is

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Speaker 2: why Viral's right and Little is the problem? Why then

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Speaker 2: is the guy from the water plant not allowed to talk?

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Speaker 2: And Little's taken over communications. But Little's not telling us

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Speaker 2: anything because you don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 20: Do you.

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Speaker 13: Well, I think that that's the whole point of an inquiry,

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Speaker 13: and so I think there may well be. And I'm

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Speaker 13: not the best.

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Speaker 2: She's gone you sorry, you, I'm.

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Speaker 13: Probably I'll just know. I just finished off saying that,

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Speaker 13: you know, there are a high level and I heard

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Speaker 13: from that public meeting that they had that people you know,

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Speaker 13: understandably are incredibly upset. And even in the out in

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Speaker 13: the Hut Valley, you know, we're being told that we're

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Speaker 13: going to foot the bill for some of this, and

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Speaker 13: so people even in the Hut Valley are pretty upset

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Speaker 13: for the fact it's been such a huge face exactly.

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Speaker 2: Mark the Police Association on this program this week telling

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Speaker 2: me they don't have the resource for the move on orders.

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Speaker 2: What what what I mean? For goodness sake, do we

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Speaker 2: want to get on with this country or do we not?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 20: Absolutely, And look, you know, the Police Association had got

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Speaker 20: an important role to play, but they're not right about everything.

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Speaker 20: They came out pretty hard against our game Pitch band

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Speaker 20: as well and didn't feel like the police had the

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Speaker 20: ability to be able to implement it, and had all

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Speaker 20: sorts of concerns and worries. And within seven minutes the

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Speaker 20: first band, the first patch had been taken and it's

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Speaker 20: been extremely successful for us as a country. So you know,

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Speaker 20: it's the same people coming out you know.

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Speaker 8: About it.

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Speaker 13: I struggle with you. You know, both chrys Relux and

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Speaker 13: yourself have said that that homeless people pop without any

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Speaker 13: housing are just the same as the game Pitch then,

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Speaker 13: and I think people struggle with it. But to the

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Speaker 13: point of the police, I.

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Speaker 3: Think we're using it.

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Speaker 20: I think these an example heo on Ginny, let me

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Speaker 20: respond to that. Now they're using we're using that as

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Speaker 20: an example of a labor led of a labor led opposition,

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Speaker 20: So the Greens and to Party Maria right in this too,

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01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 20: of every single thing that we've done since coming to government,

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Speaker 20: and we inherited a country that was heading in all

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Speaker 20: the wrong directions in terms of public safety.

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Speaker 3: You have opposed and they have been successful, and.

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Speaker 20: You're not and you're not going to and you're not

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Speaker 20: going to get rid of them. And now with you

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Speaker 20: keep using the term homeless, the people that live on

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Speaker 20: the streets, it is bad for them, It is bad

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Speaker 20: for the community, it is bad for them. Saint John's

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Speaker 20: been very clear with the advice that I've got over

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Speaker 20: the last twelve months that they are at risk. We're

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Speaker 20: not going to tolerate that anymore. We are going to

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Speaker 20: give the place some additional tools so that we can

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Speaker 20: actually get them engaging with the people that can actually

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Speaker 20: help them. And we're not going to have people living

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Speaker 20: on the street anymore. That's a good thing, people living.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can just after the break Mark Mitchell, Jinny

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Speaker 2: Anderson more shortly thirteen past the.

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Speaker 1: Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News.

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Speaker 2: Talks Politics, Wednesday, sixteen past eight, Guinny.

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Speaker 13: Go Well, the first thing I'd like to address, Mike,

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Speaker 13: is that myths that people don't have somewhere else to go.

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Speaker 2: They don't have somewhere else to go.

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Speaker 13: And we know that because Chris got into public housing

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Speaker 13: and also the requirements for getting onto emergency housing shifted

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Speaker 13: to make it harder. I've been down there, I've met

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Speaker 13: with those people. Many many of them do not have

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Speaker 13: somewhere else to go. Simply shifting them into Kingsland or

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Speaker 13: into another suburb is not going to fix the problem.

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Speaker 13: It's not a solution. And the final point is police

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Speaker 13: themselves have said they don't have the capacity. The recent

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Speaker 13: survey for association, their recent survey shows as for this Mark,

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Speaker 13: can I finish? The Police Association conducted a staff survey

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Speaker 13: of their members and over sixty percent have considered leaving

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Speaker 13: police service because they're burned out. And largely that's because of.

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Speaker 2: If you ask, you got that we're just a bunch

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Speaker 2: of journey We're a bunch of moners in this country.

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Speaker 2: If you ask anybody in the workplace whether they've considered leaving,

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Speaker 2: everyone's considered leaving all the time. Can I just say that,

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Speaker 2: just for the just for the record, Mark, do they

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Speaker 2: have somewhere to go, yes or no.

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Speaker 20: Yes, absolutely they do.

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Speaker 3: Most of these people that are rough sleeping on the.

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Speaker 20: Streets, And Ginny, I get out and go out with

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Speaker 20: how Wellington don't.

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Speaker 8: You do that?

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Speaker 3: So when did you do?

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Speaker 13: I have done that in Auckland, and I've also been out.

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Speaker 2: With recent how recent?

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Speaker 20: When did you do that?

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Speaker 13: Have been towards the end of last year that I

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Speaker 13: did that?

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Speaker 8: Okay, so you would have seen.

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Speaker 20: So you would have seen very clearly that our police officers,

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Speaker 20: they are very empathetic to the way that they deal

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Speaker 20: with people that are rough sleeping. They don't have the

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Speaker 20: calls that they need.

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Speaker 8: The people that are.

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Speaker 20: Rough sleeping, Ginny have got somewhere to go. The Wellington

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Speaker 20: Bleachs beat staff have got the keys to their accommodation

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Speaker 20: to take them there at the end of the day.

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Speaker 20: But what they don't care. I think you have that,

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Speaker 20: you have your say, you me have my say. Please

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Speaker 20: you guys, you guys were unable to fix this problem

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Speaker 20: when you're in government.

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Speaker 2: You threw billions of dollars at it, made it worse.

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Speaker 20: We are saying, we're quite simply saying that it is

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Speaker 20: not safe for people to be living on the street. Yes,

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Speaker 20: they do have somewhere to go, Jenny, and those that

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Speaker 20: are genuinely then we will then we will address.

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Speaker 2: And we accept at some point Mark and Jenny, we've

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Speaker 2: got to accept to some point of you, as the minister,

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Speaker 2: Mark say they have somewhere to go, You've got to

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Speaker 2: accept it. You've got otherwise Mark's line, which he isn't doing.

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Speaker 2: Can I also just say one thing. The media is

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Speaker 2: mischievous in this and there are different sorts of homelessness,

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Speaker 2: aren't there What we're talking about, I think in general

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Speaker 2: are the people who are drugged up and cause trouble.

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Speaker 2: And these are the deliberate trouble makers in downtown. These

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Speaker 2: are not the people who are just sitting on a

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Speaker 2: corner and minding their own business. These are people who

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Speaker 2: are swearing at you, attacking you, yelling at you, preventing

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Speaker 2: you going about your daily business. And you can't for

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Speaker 2: a moment, Jenny tell me that that's acceptable and I

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be able to go about my business because their

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Speaker 2: right to beat mine, can you.

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Speaker 13: There's also a lot of young people. So there's a

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Speaker 13: lot of young people who have come from homes with

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Speaker 13: the high levels of either family no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 13: deal with my question and so and so that they

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Speaker 13: are so you can't I don't think you can generalize

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Speaker 13: and just say this.

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Speaker 20: Is the problem with they're willing to on the streets

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Speaker 20: and addiction as a baby councilor's part of the city.

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Speaker 20: Everyone supports this. Everyone's getting behind it because they are

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Speaker 20: the ones and they realize how bad it is. No

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Speaker 20: other people are clean upon City Mission does a good job.

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Speaker 20: They've had a lot of money, a lot of text

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Speaker 20: payer funding. They've never been able to fix this problem,

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Speaker 20: have they.

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Speaker 13: It's doubled under your watch. You have more people on

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Speaker 13: the street under your government.

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Speaker 2: That is exactly true.

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Speaker 13: You canceled social housing builds and the result is more people.

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Speaker 2: On our service and now you're going to shift them off.

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Speaker 13: Into other people's the doorsteps of other neighboring.

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Speaker 20: Second of getting people out of emergency housing with great

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Speaker 20: success and onto the.

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Speaker 13: Street you've taken them out of.

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Speaker 2: If you reckon, you reckon. We held a poll and

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Speaker 2: we probably should. This will be a genuinely interested you

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Speaker 2: reckon which side of it? What would the number be? Jenny?

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Speaker 2: Do you think we should move people on from downtown

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Speaker 2: New Zealand? Yes or no? What do you reckon? The

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Speaker 2: number would be.

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Speaker 13: Well, I think a lot of people would want to

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Speaker 13: move them on because they don't have to deal with

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Speaker 13: the unpleasantness. But it doesn't fix the problem. And my

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Speaker 13: view is that the responsibility the problem.

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Speaker 2: And if we're not getting.

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Speaker 20: Support the First Responders Bill, just like you haven't supported

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01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 20: any of the legislations we've bought it this year. There's

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Speaker 20: making our country a safer place to live. This will

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Speaker 20: help fix the problem.

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Speaker 8: We will not.

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Speaker 20: Make a prediction that we will not have people at

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Speaker 20: living on our streets six twelve months. Once this comes in, it.

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Speaker 2: Will be got to go. You guys appreciate it. Mark Mitchell,

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Speaker 2: asking text machine's gone off? Welcome to election year. Here's

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Speaker 2: the thing about the media, and I think about it.

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01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 2: So there was an example, I think it was television

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01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,639
Speaker 2: one the other night. The media are being disingenuous here

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01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,800
Speaker 2: on the homelessness, and they tend to find some poor

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01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 2: bugger who's had a tough life and who sits here

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01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 2: and go, well, I'm here most days raising money. That's

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01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 2: not necessarily the problem. I think a couple of things here.

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01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 2: If the government of the day, through Mark in this

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01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: particular case, says there is somewhere to go, and we

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01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 2: have somewhere for them. You've got to take them at

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01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 2: their word, because someone's going to chase them down to

1542
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 2: try and prove them wrong, and if it turns out

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01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 2: they are wrong, then that will become a story in itself.

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01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 2: Second partner TV one had the story the other day.

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01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 2: They found some guy standing outside a supermarket or wherever

1546
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 2: in christ Jutche bigging and he goes, I'm on the benefit,

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01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: but there's not enough money on the benefit, so I

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01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 2: come down for a bit of a beg. His word's

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01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 2: not mine. I come down for a bit of a beg. Now,

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01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 2: why isn't that guy looking for work? Why is he

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01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 2: down there for four or five hours a day begging

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01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 2: And he's not homeless. He was just a guy on benefit.

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01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,679
Speaker 2: So he's got a home and he's got a benefit.

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01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 2: So in other words, we're all looking after him. But

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01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 2: because he wants a bit more, he's going down to

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01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 2: the local shopping center for a bit of a beg.

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01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 2: So that's not actually addressing the problem. So by the

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01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 2: time the media play into the opposition's narrative that somehow

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01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:19,560
Speaker 2: this isn't an issue and these poor people are but

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Speaker 2: you know, you go and talk to anybody downtown Auckland,

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01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 2: Wellington and christ Church that can't get in their business

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01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,519
Speaker 2: because some drugged up lay about is lying across there

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01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 2: being aggressive and not letting them go anywhere near it.

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01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,040
Speaker 2: Far less the people who just wander the main streets

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01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 2: of these main centers literally yelling and screaming and abusing

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Speaker 2: people on any given day. You tell me that's not

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Speaker 2: a problem that does need addressing and fixing. And if

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Speaker 2: you did hold a poll, I reckon I'd have a

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Speaker 2: seventy thirty in favor of what the government is doing.

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Speaker 2: News is next, and then off to Australia with Steve Price,

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Speaker 2: Your News Talk zeb.

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Speaker 1: Tough on Power Sharp On Inside the my casking breakfast

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01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 1: with a Vita, Time in Communities, Life Your Way News

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Speaker 1: togs Head.

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Speaker 2: Be Mike the big guy on the news complaining used

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01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 2: to get one hundred dollars, now he only gets twenty.

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01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 2: Well that's, of course, if you believe it, which I

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01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 2: don't believe it for a second. So if you missed

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01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 2: the story of story was he used to come down

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01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 2: for an hour get one hundred bucks. These days he

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01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 2: spends five hours there and gets twenty's he made that up.

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01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 2: It's simply not true. And that's that's part of the

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01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 2: problem with news coverage these days. Mike, my wife and

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01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 2: I often debate on what days we drop the kids off.

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01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 2: But Wednesday morning's non the goes you ball for me,

1586
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 2: so I can listen to politics Wednesday love the better.

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01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:32,519
Speaker 2: There you go, found a fan twenty three minutes away from.

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Speaker 6: Nine International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of

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01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 6: mind for New Zealand business in.

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Speaker 2: Australians see first morning to you.

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01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:42,760
Speaker 18: And she gets to hear me as well.

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01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,439
Speaker 2: Yeah and you And what bigger thrill can there possibly be?

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01:14:45,560 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 2: Are you in the back of the roll of mate?

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01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 2: Are you on the move?

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01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 18: I've got the chauffeur driving so I can speak to

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01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 18: you hands free.

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Speaker 2: Very nice. Indeed, why was he evacuated?

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01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 15: Do we know?

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Speaker 18: Well, we don't yet, but they're telling us so that

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01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 18: there'll be some more information today. So this is the

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Speaker 18: Prime Minister, Anthony Albanezi, so everyone's clear. The Prime Minister

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01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 18: in Australia has two houses. One's Terribilly House on Sydney

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Speaker 18: Harbor with a magnificent view of the Opera House. The

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Speaker 18: other is the Lodge in Canberra on the edges of

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Speaker 18: Blake Burley Griffin. At around six o'clock last night, the

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Speaker 18: AFP decided they needed to evacuate Anthony Albanisi. Apparently what

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01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 18: it was was there was a bomb threat. Now that

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01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 18: is pretty much all we know. I have never, ever,

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01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 18: unless my memory is failing me, heard of an Australian

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Speaker 18: Prime minister being evacuated from an official residence. I can't

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Speaker 18: begin to theorize as to why exactly it would have happened.

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Speaker 18: The only thing I can think of, we're going to start,

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01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 18: We're going to talk about this in just a moment.

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Speaker 18: It was the beginning of the Royal Commission into Anti

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01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 18: Semitism that started yesterday. Could there be some sort of

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01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 18: a link with that, potentially probably? Or could it just

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01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 18: be some nutter who rang up and said I don't

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01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 18: like the Prime Minister and I've put a bomb in

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01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 18: the garden in the lodge. It's probably the latter. We'll

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Speaker 18: find out some more information today the Royal Commission.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the anti Semitism thing, Am I correct? Did

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Speaker 2: I hear? I was watching a little bit of it

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01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 2: and she was making her opening address and stuff. But

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01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 2: did she say they're not taking evidence from my witnesses.

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01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,160
Speaker 2: Did I hear that correctly or not?

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Speaker 18: Astounding you did, and I think everybody was pretty shocked

1627
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,640
Speaker 18: about that. And the reason given by the Royal Commissioner

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Speaker 18: herself was that there has to be a trial, of

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01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 18: course of the son of the dead gunman, the alleged

1630
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 18: other gunman who is about to stand trial. Now, that

1631
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:42,839
Speaker 18: trial is going to be delayed for some time because obviously,

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01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 18: with the number of people involved, fifteen murder charges, and

1633
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 18: the fact that the crime scene was spread over such

1634
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 18: a large area, it's going to take police a very

1635
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 18: long time to put that case together. And so she

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01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 18: has said that, and I'm not quite sure about the urgency.

1637
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 18: The Royal Commission has to have its first report out

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01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,639
Speaker 18: by September and then completed by the end of the year,

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01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 18: and so she has said that she won't take any

1640
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:13,640
Speaker 18: evidence from my witnesses. Now, that seems very unusual to me,

1641
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 18: I mean, particularly given the number of people at that

1642
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 18: Harneker gathering on Bondi Beach. Most of them were senior

1643
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 18: members or prominent members of the Jewish community from Bondai

1644
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 18: and East the eastern suburbs of Sydney. Now a lot

1645
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 18: of the attacks or the anti semitism has taken place

1646
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 18: in that part of Sydney. Yes, it took place in

1647
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 18: Melbourne and the Opera House in other areas, but most

1648
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 18: of it took place in the East suburbs of Sydney.

1649
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 18: It's a very strange way to start a Royal commission

1650
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 18: into anti Semitism.

1651
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 2: Isn't that?

1652
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 8: Just how?

1653
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 2: I mean, what are the odds this tragedy around the grandfather,

1654
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 2: their body of sounding. I mean, what are the odds

1655
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:50,679
Speaker 2: of that happening?

1656
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 18: Eighty five year olds snatched from your house five o'clock

1657
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 18: in the morning two weeks ago, bag Darien his name was,

1658
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 18: and his remains were discovered on the fringes of suburban

1659
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 18: Sydney next to a golf course yesterday. How the police

1660
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 18: found that they were there at Troyota Corolla had been

1661
01:18:09,840 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 18: pictured on CCTV driving past that area at some point.

1662
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 18: So it's great police work. But the tragedies you make

1663
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 18: as you point out of this is just horrendous. And

1664
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 18: senior police officers are today making the point in the

1665
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:31,759
Speaker 18: Daily Telegraph that in the past, when there was crime

1666
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:37,600
Speaker 18: wars between warring crime families in Sydney. The families themselves

1667
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 18: went about the killings. What's happening now is offshore Sydney

1668
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 18: crime figures are ordering up hits on social media links.

1669
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 18: And the people who take the job take it for

1670
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,799
Speaker 18: the money. They've got no investment in exactly what's happening.

1671
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 18: If they make a mistake, like they clearly have in

1672
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 18: this point, in this case, they just get the wrong person.

1673
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 18: I killed this eighty five year old man.

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01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 2: Done real? Hey, just quick on the isis Brides? I'm

1675
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 2: reading yesterday in one of the papers Labor and peas

1676
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,160
Speaker 2: are growing frustrated with Albanezy. Is that a fair headline

1677
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:10,439
Speaker 2: or not?

1678
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:10,880
Speaker 14: Really?

1679
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 18: I think it is because the prime ministers all over

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01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 18: the shop on this.

1681
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 8: He doesn't you know.

1682
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 18: He started out by saying we've got nothing to do

1683
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:22,720
Speaker 18: with it. There's no link between Tony Burke, our Home

1684
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 18: Affairs minister, and the Brides themselves. Then we have a

1685
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 18: photographs of an Astonian figure who was instrumental in getting

1686
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 18: Tony Burke re elected. He ran a campaign in Burke's seat.

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01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 18: He's over there in Iraq. He's handing out passports. He

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01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 18: had a handful of passports for these people and handed

1689
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 18: them out. I mean, what the flavor politicians would like

1690
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,880
Speaker 18: the Prime Minister to do is just front up and

1691
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 18: say either yeah, we're happy to have them back here

1692
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 18: and we'll keep a watch on them, or they're not

1693
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 18: coming back at all. But he shifted his position so

1694
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:58,680
Speaker 18: many times that no one knows what he.

1695
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 2: Wants to do exactly. All right, mate, go well see

1696
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 2: next week's Steve Price on the road in the early

1697
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 2: showers of on Australian morning. By the way, Britain spending

1698
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 2: three hundred and ten million on a new stage of

1699
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:12,560
Speaker 2: Aucust submarine project that was announced yesterday. So this is Australia,

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01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 2: it's Britain, it's ORCUS previously pledged five billion. The three

1701
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 2: hundred and ten million yesterday is going to buy the

1702
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 2: first components for the nuclear reactors to be supplied by

1703
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,840
Speaker 2: Rolls Royce transfer to South Australia for fitting on the

1704
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,759
Speaker 2: two Orcst vessels to be built at the Osbourne Shipyard.

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01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 2: That's you're talking well from memory, and well not only

1706
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 2: well into the thirties, possibly even the twenty forties. So

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01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,960
Speaker 2: it's still a long way off. But everyone that I hear, okay, well,

1708
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 2: who was the guy? It was an American senator whose

1709
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 2: name I can't remember, was in Darwin last week at

1710
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,040
Speaker 2: a ceremony. I wish you could remember his no anyway,

1711
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:49,920
Speaker 2: he said, it's real, it's happening. The submarines are going

1712
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 2: to get built and it's a go. Seventeen to night.

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Speaker 21: At b.

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Speaker 2: Tim Kaine was the name I was looking for Channel

1717
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 2: nine just before we leave Australia. Channel nineers in the TV.

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01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 2: Their earnings grew six percent, so they had a reasonable day.

1719
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 2: But here's an interesting insight. Daily Mail which people frequent

1720
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:18,719
Speaker 2: for the gossip. Basically it's a lightweight tabloid based in Britain.

1721
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,800
Speaker 2: They've got I think an American version, they've got an

1722
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:26,000
Speaker 2: Australian version, and they sort of it's alarmist headlines and

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Speaker 2: pictures of celebrities, that sort of thing. They've gone and

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01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 2: lost two point five million readers in a year, which

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01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,799
Speaker 2: is twenty eight point five percent of their monthly audience.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's catastrophic. And the reason they've done that

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01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 2: is in part they've introduced a paywall. And the lesson

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01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,320
Speaker 2: I think from that would be if you introduce a paywall,

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01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 2: people have got to look at what you're producing and

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01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 2: go do I want to pay for that? In the

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01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 2: answer in the Daily Mail's case is unequivocally no. Obviously,

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01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 2: the biggest websites in Australia ABC News is number one,

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01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 2: News dot Com Au is who nine is three Guardians four,

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01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 2: seven is five Sydney Morning Heralls six. Then you get

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01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 2: down to the smaller players like the Daily Mail and

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01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 2: Yahoo and the BBC. So I would think to myself

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01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 2: do I want to pay money for tetle tattle and gossip?

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01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 2: And the answer as a business model is unequivocally no. Otherwise,

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01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:22,599
Speaker 2: why would two point five million readers have suddenly deserted

1740
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 2: the place? Then we come to our lack of money.

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01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 2: So is this thing that came out yesterday from Westpac

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01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 2: once again a negative headline? One in three key wes

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01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 2: have less than five hundred dollars in savings, So why

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01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 2: the negative? What about the twenty eight percent who have

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01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 2: more than fifteen thousand dollars saving? Why wouldn't you go

1746
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:40,920
Speaker 2: positive instead of negative? Anyway? What does that tell us?

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01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 2: First of all, one west Pax just one bank. I

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01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,040
Speaker 2: don't know whether the profile of their customer base is

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01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 2: any different from any of the other major banks. Thirty

1750
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:51,759
Speaker 2: six percent of people didn't have five hundred dollars in savings.

1751
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 2: Twenty five percent make monthly automatic payments into the savings accounts.

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01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 2: Average KEI WE balance is twenty seven hundred dollars. Is

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01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 2: that you you've got more or less than twenty seven

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01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 2: hundred dollars as I say, twenty eight percent have got

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01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:08,600
Speaker 2: more than fifteen thousand dollars. So explanations one, having a

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01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 2: lot of cash in the bank's probably not the smartest

1757
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 2: thing you do if you did have cash. If you

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01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 2: had a lot of cash, why would you have it

1759
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 2: in the bank. The banks don't pay particularly high. There

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01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:18,800
Speaker 2: are plenty of other places to make more money with cash. Two,

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01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 2: as they pointed out, a lot of people paying off

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01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 2: their mortgage faster than they need to. So no, you

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01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 2: don't have a lot of extra money in savings, but

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01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,400
Speaker 2: you're paying down debt, which is a good thing. Eighty

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01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 2: one percent of the Homeland customers at Westpac have a

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01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,719
Speaker 2: savings account. Thirty six percent have set up monthly automatic payments,

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01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 2: so all that's good. Canterbury and to Tigo are the

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01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 2: best savers. That's for fairly obvious reasons, you do any

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01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 2: more than everybody else. For forty two hundred dollars is

1770
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 2: the average in Canterbory, Northland's second lowest, once again for

1771
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 2: reasonably obvious reasons. Wellington, North Ireland highest medium. That's because

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01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:51,120
Speaker 2: the Wellingtonians, of course, many of them in the public

1773
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 2: service and good wages thirty eight percent of the country.

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01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:55,320
Speaker 2: At a westpac Kee, we save a balance of more

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01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 2: than forty thousand dollars. Now that's either good or not.

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01:23:57,320 --> 01:23:58,559
Speaker 2: I don't think it's very good. I mean a key

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01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 2: we save a balance of forty thousand dollars. Isn't going

1778
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 2: to solve your retirement, is it?

1779
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 24: So?

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01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:05,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what we end up thinking about that.

1781
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 2: Do we think we're poor, Do we think we've got

1782
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 2: our money elsewhere and we actually that's not a fair reflection.

1783
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:15,000
Speaker 2: Or do we think we're doing okay? Ten minutes away

1784
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 2: from line so.

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01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,799
Speaker 3: My costing breakfast with the defender and use togs enbs.

1786
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 2: So let's face it, the way we do business has

1787
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,360
Speaker 2: moved on from you know, the old land lines and

1788
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 2: the face to faces. Now it's mostly online these days,

1789
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:29,080
Speaker 2: meaning your internet connection is a vital investment. So keep

1790
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 2: we businesses of every size need to ensure your Internet

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Speaker 2: provides uncompromising reliability, bandwidth and better restoration service to minimize downtime.

1792
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Speaker 2: This is why New Zealand business runs on business fiber.

1793
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Speaker 2: So what do you get seamless video callse of course

1794
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Speaker 2: upload download those large files quick smart, you carry out

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Speaker 2: swift transactions, You collaborate seamlessly online with the cloud based apps,

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Speaker 2: and once it's a head, stay hit future proof your

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Speaker 2: connection as our workplaces become ever more digital. So as

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01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,719
Speaker 2: a business fiber customer, by the way, you're getting priority

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Speaker 2: fault restoration. That means you're backing up and back up

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Speaker 2: and running faster minimum time offline. Which fiber connection, now

1802
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Speaker 2: have a look at the Chorus recommendation tool that's at

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Speaker 2: Chorus dot co dot nz Ford slash business fiber. Note

1805
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Speaker 2: that down Chorus dot co dot nz Ford slash business fiber.

1806
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Speaker 2: So what you're doing basically is taking your business productivity

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Speaker 2: to the next level. So get your business running on

1808
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Speaker 2: business fiber. Tasking going on in napier so why am

1809
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:31,800
Speaker 2: my whole argument? We're over counseled in this country seventy

1810
01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 2: two seventy three councils, far too many of them, and

1811
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:35,799
Speaker 2: most people don't seem to be getting on. So Richard,

1812
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 2: who runs Napier, is the mayor. He wants the deputy gone.

1813
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,559
Speaker 2: Sally doesn't get on with Sally. He appointed Sally as

1814
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 2: my understanding, he initially gave her the deadline of two

1815
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 2: pm Monday, then it became five pm Monday, then it

1816
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 2: became five pm Tuesday. So I don't know what happened

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01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 2: yesterday because I'm sitting here, you know, five to nine

1818
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 2: Wednesday morning, Sally's still there. We're Sally gone, no warning,

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01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 2: she says. She described his decision making as ad hoc,

1820
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 2: reckless and chaotic, which probably didn't help the relationship. Would

1821
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:07,439
Speaker 2: be that is it make you see there's too much

1822
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 2: of that going on in local body politics. There was

1823
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 2: some guy, funnily enough, I thought i'd read the other

1824
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 2: day also in the Hawk's Bay, who was on a

1825
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 2: committee who was taken off the committee. But it had

1826
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 2: a run in with the woman at the art gallery,

1827
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 2: and the woman at the art gallery had complained about him.

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01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 2: Now I don't know whether she complained about him and

1829
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 2: they dealt with that, but they spent ten thousand dollars

1830
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 2: doing an investigation, and I don't know if it's directly

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01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 2: linked to him being taken off the committee.

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01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:34,120
Speaker 22: Is this still the Dailymail you're talking about?

1833
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 2: No, this is real news. Clinton.

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01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 22: Hi, I thought you could talk about a scandal and

1835
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 22: tittletale where it's at.

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01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 2: And as for the speaking of Hawks Bay, as for

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01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 2: the Hawks Bay today or whatever that is, ranking going

1838
01:26:46,960 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 2: along saying what do you think of Luxeon's outfit for

1839
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 2: the Art deco thing? I mean, come on, I mean, why, Elsie,

1840
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 2: what's the point of that? So you can just go

1841
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:57,439
Speaker 2: I didn't like what he wore. Made a bit of

1842
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,560
Speaker 2: a dufis, isn't he? Is he adfiss? Yes he is.

1843
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:01,040
Speaker 22: Wasn't wearing a salmon jacket?

1844
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 11: Was he?

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01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 2: He wasn't wearing a salmon jacket? Well, wal's the pity.

1846
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 2: I mean, you're never going to catch me at that

1847
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,720
Speaker 2: deca without a salmon jacket, for fairly obvious reasons. But

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01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:09,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you know what I'm saying, So much time

1849
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 2: wasting going on here? Come on, hawks By. Once upon

1850
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 2: a time we were looking at moving the show there,

1851
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 2: not now.

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01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 22: It's all back down to Central Attagon exactly.

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01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:20,720
Speaker 2: It's too much aggro on hawks By five minutes away

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01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 2: from nine.

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01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:26,840
Speaker 1: Trending now with Warehouse the Real House of Fragrances.

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01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 2: Three pm our time. I'm going to be there. It's

1857
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,559
Speaker 2: going to be awesome. It's State of the Union Day,

1858
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 2: and I don't care who the President has stated the

1859
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:33,080
Speaker 2: Union Day?

1860
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 8: Is that?

1861
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 2: Anyway, Carolyn? What have we got?

1862
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:38,879
Speaker 27: He is going to share the stories of great American

1863
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 27: heroes who exemplify bravery and the spirit of seventeen seventy six.

1864
01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 27: And the President is of course going to tout his

1865
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 27: administration's record setting accomplishments over the past year, while laying

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01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 27: out an ambitious agenda to continue making the American dream

1867
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 27: more attainable and affordable for working class people across the country.

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Speaker 27: It's going to be great speech. There will be some

1869
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:05,040
Speaker 27: tear jerking moments as there was last year, in addition

1870
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 27: to some moments of levity, and so we hope everybody

1871
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 27: will tune it.

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01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 2: I will be. And when she goes on maternity leave,

1873
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 2: would you want her job? She's so good at what

1874
01:28:16,680 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 2: she does. Forget the politics. She is brilliant at what

1875
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 2: she does. And so when she goes on maternity leave,

1876
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 2: who's stepping in? Because you know the moment they turn

1877
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 2: up the gal if she know it a Caroline, is she.

1878
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 22: Well, what's the job, guests, Lighter in Chief?

1879
01:28:30,600 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 15: Is that what it is?

1880
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 2: It's a job without a title, then it's it's just

1881
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 2: what you just go God, she's good anyway. We'll be

1882
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 2: back tomorrow morning from six as always. Scott McLaughlin. By

1883
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,120
Speaker 2: the way, if you're into your Indy, Cousey's back at

1884
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 2: Saint Peter's they call it in Florida this weekend. After

1885
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 2: last season, shall I raise last season with him? Or

1886
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 2: shall we just look forward? Anyways? Scott McLoughlin, among other things,

1887
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:55,320
Speaker 2: tomorrow morning, as always, Happy Days.

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01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,320
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