1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Either. I had a seven hundred and sixty one wordle 2 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: streaking about three months ago. It just disappeared and now 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: no streak is recorded at all. Do you has been 4 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: a winner too? I always start with a new word 5 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: first up, more interestingly, And Barry, what's your starting word? 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 2: Do you as yours? Either? I know that, I know 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: I've already said that. Yeah, it's yours. I change mine, yeah, yours. 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: Yours just goes with Like when you're angry, you just 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: start with the word angry sometimes, don't you. 10 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: But I'm never angry. 11 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: I never started with a lot a lot actually anyway, 12 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Barry Soper, senior political correspond correspondent, is with us now 13 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: speaking of angry Willie Jackson. 14 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: Well, Willy's certainly on the bandwangon, isn't he? And he 15 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: has an association with Dame nol and Tarra the suspended 16 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 2: netball coach. Look, I think this is going to come 17 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: to a head fairly quickly. Actually here there. Netball New 18 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: Zealand receives more than three million dollars from the taxpayer 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: through funding various things like high performance sport and what 20 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 2: have you. Mark Mitchell, who's a sports minister, he's basically 21 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: spoken to Sport in New Zealand and he's outlined in 22 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: his expectations to bring the impass to an end. And 23 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: I think the only end in sight for this, and 24 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: I'll put up a hand if it doesn't happen. I 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: think Noel and Tyro will be reinstated before much longer. 26 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: Ah, Well, if you think that, then you must then 27 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: surely Jenny Wiley has to get the sack. 28 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. I mean, that's my expectation is 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: that Tyrone will be back. I think there's a feeling 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: generally in government circles, circles as well as anywhere else 31 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: that she's been badly treated. Few players that are not 32 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: happy with the schedule that she puts some turn expects 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: them to follow. Sorry, a few part players does not 34 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: a team make. 35 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: All right, what did you make of Chippy's day today? 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: Well, it was an oops moment, wasn't it. That? 37 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: You know? 38 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: Unfortunate li Ascheverril is always sick today and she published 39 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: an op ed in New Zealand Doctor which went out 40 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: today and outlined a policy that Labor was going to announce. 41 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 2: And in fact she jumped the gun and Chris Hopkins 42 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: was caught short by it. She wrote this, and basically 43 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: it came as news to her leader, Chris Hopkins, We're. 44 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: Going to have to wait if you're interested in an 45 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 3: announcement that we may or may not be making. The 46 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 3: fact that I'm not aware of it. We have health 47 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: policy coming. 48 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 2: Short time later, we had this to say. 49 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: You caught me slightly by surprise. I was expecting that 50 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 3: health announcement to be tomorrow, but that was my timing 51 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 3: that I had in the back of my mind that 52 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: was incorrect. Aischaverral has been working on a policy around 53 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 3: independent pricing for GP practices. A significant gap between the 54 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: funding GP practices need to deliver service as normal had 55 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 3: opened over at the period of about a decade. We've 56 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 3: been working on a mechanism to try and stop that 57 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: from happening again in the future, which is why we 58 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 3: had agreed on an independent pricing authority. Unfortunately, through conflimence 59 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 3: of events, Pasha as unexpectedly away sick today as that 60 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 3: went out at midday to day. It is a policy 61 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 3: that has been approved at something that we've been working 62 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 3: on for a wee while. 63 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: Now get your act together if you go to be 64 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: announcing policy. They've only had one up until now, and 65 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 2: that was yesterday, which was and this was an absolute 66 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 2: bot chut. And of course within seconds that happening, who 67 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: was on putting out a press statement. Chris Bishop, who's 68 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: not even the health spokes or not even the Health minister, 69 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: but he put out a statement saying that it's just 70 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: another desperate attempt to look busy without doing the hard work. 71 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: Said there's no costings, no plan, no evidence it'll deliver 72 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: anything meaningful. So quite right, Yeah, I've been short and embarrassing. 73 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: Okay, so what are you hearing is happening with the 74 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: Maori Party. 75 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: Well, what I've heard is that, look, there will be 76 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: something happening when Rawory White to Tea finally he gets 77 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: back from China. That he's been away with the Kappa 78 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: Huka group. God knows how he gave himself leave from 79 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: parliament to do that, but nevertheless he did. And when 80 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,359 Speaker 2: has parties in the state that it is, it doesn't 81 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 2: say much about the leadership that it goes off sea 82 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 2: overseas with an entertainment group. Nevertheless, that's where he's been. 83 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 2: When he gets back, I think things will start moving. 84 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: I was making inquiries around the Maldi Party today and 85 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: of course Rory White to Tea. He's married to the 86 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 2: Chief Press Secretary of the Maldi Party and she's the 87 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: daughter of John Tammaherley, the president of the Maldi Party. Well, 88 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: this young Hannah Raffiti Clark, m P Clark, her mum 89 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: and a sister are working for her. I found out 90 00:04:54,760 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: today Mary party is a big family affair. And as 91 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: we know, as we know that Caupa Kingi got into 92 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 2: trouble for over spending her budget. And where did a 93 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: lot of the money go to, Well, it went to 94 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: his son Eru, who was brought on as a contractor 95 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: and he organized the Equoi to Parliament recently. So everybody 96 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: is in everybody else's pocket here, and it seems the 97 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 2: only one out of pocket at the end of it 98 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: is the poor old, long suffering taxpayer. So I think 99 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: what you're going to find is you're going to find 100 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: a split in the Maori Party. You're going to see 101 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 2: Maramino Cuppa Kinghi. She will be obviously out of the party, 102 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,919 Speaker 2: probably stand for the rest of the term as an independent. 103 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 2: Eru Caupa Kinghi he's doubled down. He said he still 104 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 2: supports the Maori Party, but he has no credence with 105 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: the party now. So look, there's going to be a split, 106 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 2: I think, and it'll come. 107 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 1: I don't think it'll just be muddy, I mean, or 108 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: as well. It might be Takuterferos. All right, Barry, thanks 109 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: very much, Barry Sober, Senior Political Correspondence. 110 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 3: For more from Hither duplessy elandre listen live to news Talks. 111 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 3: It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast 112 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 3: on iHeartRadio.