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Speaker 1: Takapuna golf Course has been thrown a lifeline. All con

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Speaker 1: Council today announcing it'll develop the golf course into a wetland,

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Speaker 1: but the area could still house a redesigned golf course

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Speaker 1: in the future. There have been widespread protests you'll know

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Speaker 1: about these against the council, planned by golfers, including Ryan Fox.

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Speaker 1: Tom Mansell is the head of Sustainable Partnerships at all

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Speaker 1: Con Council with me tonight.

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Speaker 2: Hi Tom, Hi, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what are the chances really of there still being

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Speaker 1: a golf course here after the wetland's done?

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Speaker 2: So theland there's two parts to this. There's one is

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Speaker 2: the wetland, which is wet and obviously we're going down

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Speaker 2: to groundwater. Then there's the dry detention area, which is

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Speaker 2: dry most of the time and just uses the area

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Speaker 2: when it floods. The wetted area is only about thirty

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Speaker 2: percent of the a of Thomas or the current golf course,

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Speaker 2: so quite a small, not huge amount of area. And

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Speaker 2: then the rest there's another probably twenty five percent, which

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Speaker 2: is the dry attention than they's a dry area as well.

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Speaker 2: So what happens that we realize the importance and recreation

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Speaker 2: in this area. What we need to do as first

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Speaker 2: and foremost is detain the water to reduce flooding downstream.

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Speaker 2: That is the most important thing. Once we've done that,

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Speaker 2: we'll then design. There's a lot of space for recreation

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Speaker 2: golf included in that.

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Speaker 1: Right, so legious, paint me a picture when I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at it. Once you've done the wetland's got all the

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Speaker 1: work done that you need to keep people safe. When

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Speaker 1: I look out at this, what do I see grass?

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Speaker 1: Or do I see you know, flaxes and stuff like

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Speaker 1: typical wetland? What am I looking at?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So the actual that wet the wetland will be

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Speaker 2: wetted areas. It will have walkway cycle ways, quite a

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Speaker 2: high passive recreation. The remainding area is almost like a

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Speaker 2: blank canvas, and that can be used for golf or

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Speaker 2: what other recreation national users uses. It's up to the

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Speaker 2: local Kaipatock board to decide what they want to put

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Speaker 2: on the rest of the area. So plenty of road

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Speaker 2: doesn't plenty of roads?

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Speaker 1: No ecological reasons why you couldn't So you could have

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Speaker 1: Why not an eighteen hole instead of a nine? You said,

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Speaker 1: there's only going to be room for a nine. Is

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Speaker 1: that because of the space for the wetland.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not a golf designer, so what we don't

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Speaker 2: want is having golf throughout the wetland area. We don't

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Speaker 2: think that is maintainable or fund or feasible. If they

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Speaker 2: could put in the remaining area, if they can fit

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Speaker 2: an eighteen hole, and that's what the Kaipatock board want,

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Speaker 2: then we'll work with that. Right, it's you know what.

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Speaker 1: Did this work have to be done on a scale

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Speaker 1: of one to ten? Like, will people die if it

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Speaker 1: didn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Well, since this all started in the twenty twenty three

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Speaker 2: the devastating floods there, so this work has to happen.

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Speaker 2: The insurance are back in wanting this work to happen.

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Speaker 2: The affected residents. We've just purchased one hundred and forty

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Speaker 2: houses that were flooded to a extent where it was

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Speaker 2: a risk to life downstream of this of the ap

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Speaker 2: Thomas Park. So it is work. This is a stage

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Speaker 2: one of Stage three and Stage one is funded but

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Speaker 2: part funded by the government. It's critical infrastructure works to

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Speaker 2: keep this community safe. It has to happen.

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Speaker 1: So the rest of it's not funded. So any new

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Speaker 1: golf course we need to have its own funding.

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Speaker 2: That's right, the government. We've got a contract with the

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Speaker 2: government and they will pay for stormwater mitigation, flood mitigation,

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Speaker 2: but any other recreation golf needs to be funded.

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Speaker 1: Yes, golf is definitely nice to have, isn't it all right? Well,

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Speaker 1: it sounds like you've kind of come up with a

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Speaker 1: bit of a compromise there. Tom will wait and see

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Speaker 1: what happens.

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Speaker 2: Great, Yeah, thank you for your time.

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Speaker 1: Tom Mansel, the head of sustainable Partnerships at all Can Council.

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Speaker 1: Sounds all quite good, doesn't it. Everyone got what they

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Speaker 1: wanted out of that. I don't know, just something tells

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Speaker 1: me that down the line, somewhere there'll be a really

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Speaker 1: really heaved off Ryan Fox, you know, you know, sinking

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Speaker 1: is trying to put his way out of a wetland.

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