1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: We find the nurses are back on strike again today 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: About thirty six thousand nurses midwife's healthcare assistance are out 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: this time. They're arguing patient safety, apparently, Health New Zealand 4 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: Deputy Chief Executive for the Northern Region Mark Shepherd with us, good. 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: Morning, Good morning, Mike. I thanks for having it not at. 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: All, so another day another strike. Seems like a beleagued, 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: unhappy sort of place, is it. 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say that is the beginning of a bargaining 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: process with the New Zealand Nurse Association and we're a 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: little disappointed the strike has happened so soon, but we're 11 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: fully prepared in our hospitals to meet the challenges. 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: How far through the process are you? 13 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: It's only relatively early bargaining. How he started over a 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: month ago. We do have some date set in early 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,959 Speaker 2: New year to continue the discussions and I think that's 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: an important part of understanding issues for nurses and being 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 2: able to move forward together. 18 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: They're arguing patient safety. Is it about patient safety or 19 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: is it about money? 20 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: I saw as it's a balance of both, and you'd 21 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 2: have to ask us them they're view on patient safety. 22 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: We believe we've got a safe organization has continued to 23 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 2: work with the unions. There's more nurses on the floor 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: in this Zealent hospitals than ever before. Have thirty five 25 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 2: thousand nurses just in the last twelve months, an additional 26 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: three eight hundred nurses on the floor out there caring 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: for patients in our community. So we believe we've done 28 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 2: a lot to respond to patient safety discussion. 29 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: That's the forgotten part of the story. I think people 30 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: are confused, aren't they, Because I mean, all the headlines 31 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: are about the people who can't get work and the 32 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: hiring freeze and all that sort of stuff. The simple 33 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: fact of the matter is there's a mismatch going on. 34 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong, But there are job openings 35 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: in certain areas of the health sector not in others. 36 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: You have put more people, as you say, on the floor, 37 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: and therefore you are growing the workforce. Is all of 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: that correct? 39 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 2: That is absolutely correct, and that's ongoing. Only in the 40 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: last as the commissioner. Commissioner announced an additional fifty senior 41 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 2: medical stuff and also additional tanbergion dollar targeted fund for 42 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: specific nursing roles for specific areas. But those sorts of 43 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: things are ongoing. 44 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: Okay, so on going on strike between eleven and seven, 45 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there's no answer to this. But when you 46 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: go on strike between eleven and seven, what does that achieve? 47 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: I mean, what changes here? 48 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: I suppose really with New Dancer Union, what they think 49 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 2: they're below they achieve. I mean, I suppose it's making 50 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: a statement and during attention to the issue that there 51 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 2: there's some strength of an united sort of front with 52 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: the nurses around wanting a fair pace. That's my assumptions. 53 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, what's really important is 54 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 2: anybody staying in hospital during the strike will receive the 55 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 2: care and support they need. You have well developed plans 56 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 2: right across the system to ensure that healthcare delivery continues. 57 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: We have pared back some of our non urgent care 58 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: things are pain care like might be appointment or non 59 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: urgent surgeries, and we will look to reschedule those surgeries 60 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: or treatments as soon as possible. Anything that is time 61 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: critical will continue, and all emergency departments and kids services 62 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 2: remain open in. 63 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: Functions all right, Mike, appreciate it. Mike Shepard out of 64 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: Health New Zealand. For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, 65 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: listen live to news talks that'd be from six am weekdays, 66 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio