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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, a name

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Speaker 1: you can trust locally and.

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Speaker 2: Globally, joining me the sevening Bridget Morton, who is a

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Speaker 2: lawyer with Frank's Ogilvy and Ellie Jones Red pr Good evening, Kay,

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Speaker 2: how I am a good thank you. Let's start with

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Speaker 2: the Taxpayers Union fudge stunt, the false flag event if

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Speaker 2: that's what if you want to listen to the unions,

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Speaker 2: what do we think? Bridget has all gotten a bit

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Speaker 2: weird in my mind, but it's happening next week apparently.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a classic pre Christmas, you know,

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Speaker 3: a bit of noise to go around. Of course, I'm

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Speaker 3: sort of in the middle of here, stuck in the

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Speaker 3: fudge tax Pas Union as a client of mine, whereas

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Speaker 3: Nichola Willis have been campaign chare for the last couple

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Speaker 3: of elections, so you know, probably could have lined down

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Speaker 3: the middle. But I do think this budge stunt actually

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Speaker 3: probably benefits them both, you know, for the tax Payers Union,

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Speaker 3: that's really talking to their base about holding the government

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Speaker 3: to account and what's been spend to debt levels and

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Speaker 3: all of that sort of thing, because they do want

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Speaker 3: lower taxes and for Nicola Willis it gives you a

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Speaker 3: chance to sort of different she had herself from that

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Speaker 3: mother or budget which is not going to be as

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Speaker 3: tough as national wars in the nineties, and allows her

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Speaker 3: to sort of show the modern face of the national partting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think yesterday I said it was a win

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Speaker 2: win like she even if she loses, she wins because

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Speaker 2: she looks well, not as radical as with Richardson, right.

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Speaker 4: Ellie, Yeah, and also well, the only thing is I

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Speaker 4: want to start off by saying I don't have a conflict.

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Speaker 4: I am feeling quite nauseous from having eaten several pieces

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Speaker 4: of Nicholas fudge, which arrived today from Jordan Williams. So

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Speaker 4: thank you for that's I listen.

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Speaker 3: I hear what Bridget's.

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Speaker 4: Saying, and I agree from a political perspective, and she's

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Speaker 4: far more qualified to talk on that. I wanted to

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Speaker 4: talk about the marketing. I think it's absolutely outstanding. It's

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Speaker 4: really witty, funny, clever. I mean on the lid of

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Speaker 4: the box that says the aroma will hit you first,

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Speaker 4: a warm blend of heroic assumptions and overconfidence whipped together

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Speaker 4: with more debt and denial than ever before, and I

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Speaker 4: mean the whole thing. It's I think it's a masterclass

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Speaker 4: in marketing, and I'm really looking forward to it. I

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Speaker 4: heard what you said earlier, Ryan, I love this stuff

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Speaker 4: and I get really sick and tired of she said,

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Speaker 4: she said stuff in the news, and it runs for

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Speaker 4: two or three days, and you never get a conversation

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Speaker 4: where someone puts something to someone, they respond to it,

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Speaker 4: and then someone else responds again. This means that they

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Speaker 4: can actually have a conversation and when one of them

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Speaker 4: calls byes, the other one can say why and this

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Speaker 4: is how. And so I'm really looking forward to I

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Speaker 4: heard you say, you know, you think it's a bit

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Speaker 4: of BS, but I'll be watching no exactly.

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Speaker 2: But I think what I mean by that is it's

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Speaker 2: about It might be more of a Beltway thing, this

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Speaker 2: particular debate than you might expect from a you know,

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Speaker 2: a labor on national one. But on the I agree

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Speaker 2: with you on the marketing. Fantastic marketing, Ellie. And what

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Speaker 2: I've done because i haven't eaten any of the chocolate

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Speaker 2: myself yet, but I've saved the whole thing, the box,

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Speaker 2: the whole kitten kaboodle, and I'm giving it to my

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Speaker 2: mother in law for Christmas because she loves politics. She's

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Speaker 2: really into this kind of thing, so I think she's

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Speaker 2: going to absolutely love like it's quite well done or

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Speaker 2: the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: It's absolutely stunning. We sing a video.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't know it was the video.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's an AI created video. Have you seen a Bridget?

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Speaker 3: Yeah I have?

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Speaker 4: You have created proper bridge anyway.

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Speaker 3: But.

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Speaker 4: No, well I have a look because it's actually a

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Speaker 4: bit scary. The only thing I'll say about that and

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Speaker 4: with the video is we do need to talk about

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Speaker 4: these issues seriously, and I'd hate this to turn into

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Speaker 4: a you know, a sort.

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Speaker 3: Of a cat fight.

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Speaker 4: Silly you know, the marketing and the fun of it

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Speaker 4: overwhelms some of the really serious issues. I hope that

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Speaker 4: doesn't happen.

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Speaker 2: Alien Bridget back in a second.

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Speaker 1: The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the only

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Speaker 1: truly global brand.

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Speaker 2: Bridget Mordan Allie Jones on the huddle tonight. Hey, how

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Speaker 2: do we feel Bridget about going to the US If

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Speaker 2: you're going to have to hand over your social media

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Speaker 2: handle for the last five years And apparently we spoke

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Speaker 2: to a lawyer. If you're if your profile is currently

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Speaker 2: they might ask you to make it public so that

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Speaker 2: they can scan it what you've posted, and then you

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Speaker 2: can make it private again after that. Does it How

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Speaker 2: would you feel going to the US under those circumstances.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's completely off putting. I think a lot of

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Speaker 3: people wouldn't want to do that. I think it's not

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Speaker 3: just the fact of the privacy element and the concern

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Speaker 3: that you may have inevinently said something in the last

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Speaker 3: five years that they're going to take an issue with.

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Speaker 3: There's also just the mechanics of it. Most of us

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Speaker 3: when we travel want to have it as easy as possible.

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Speaker 3: If you think that you're going to be caught up

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Speaker 3: because somebody's going to be scrolling all the way back,

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Speaker 3: you know, through your Instagram, was sitting in La, it's

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Speaker 3: probably not going to go through the US, or you're

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Speaker 3: going to choose to go somewhere else. If you've got

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Speaker 3: to live in the amount of time for holiday, it

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Speaker 3: just seems completely ridiculous. And you look at the justification

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Speaker 3: for it is you know that there's been a foreign

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Speaker 3: person who you know, has called time in the US.

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Speaker 3: There were with suddenly our social media accounts need to

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Speaker 3: be open to access. I just don't think that they're

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Speaker 3: interested in my tramping photos. That's complete other rage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. That totally puts me off the idea

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Speaker 2: of even transitting through the alley.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, if we wanted another reason, or even needed another

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Speaker 4: reason not to go to the US, this is it.

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Speaker 4: Surely I totally agree with what you're saying. I mean,

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Speaker 4: just the thought of it. It feels quite violating really,

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Speaker 4: And you know, I know people don't want to see

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Speaker 4: me singing karaoke at last year's Christmas party, but you know,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot of stuff in there about friends that

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Speaker 4: we've lost, and just a lot of really personal stuff.

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Speaker 4: I just think it's absolutely outrageous. Oh, I wouldn't go

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Speaker 4: to the States. Don't need to go to the States,

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Speaker 4: so certainly wouldn't. This is another reason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I tend to agree with you, right this cancer

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Speaker 2: diagnosis story. So over the next twenty years, we will

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Speaker 2: see a fifty percent increase in cancer diagnoses, and half

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Speaker 2: will be because of preventable, preventable cancers. I we're drinking,

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Speaker 2: we're smoking, we're eating the wrong foods, bridget do we

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Speaker 2: I mean, we know this like people say, do we

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Speaker 2: need an education campaign, do we need to need to

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Speaker 2: cash campaign, or do we already know what's bad for

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Speaker 2: us and we do it anyway because that's just part

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Speaker 2: of living well.

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Speaker 3: I think there's an element of sort of self responsibility.

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Speaker 3: But if you actually look at some of those education

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Speaker 3: campaigns we've had previously, they have led to change. You know,

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Speaker 3: smoking rates are very very low compared to what they

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Speaker 3: used to be. Also, look at the beach this summer.

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Speaker 3: You know, every kid will be wearing a RAS shirt.

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Speaker 3: Will we have a hat on? Have suns going on?

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Speaker 3: We've completely changed our attitude to sort of sun and

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Speaker 3: I think we are changing our attitudes and learning more

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Speaker 3: and more about you know, the difference is sometimes of

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Speaker 3: processed meats or you know, excess alcohol. I think those

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Speaker 3: things are changing, but they do require a bit of

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Speaker 3: cultural change, and so I don't think it's necessarily fair

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Speaker 3: to say that, you know, we all know this, we

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Speaker 3: do need sometimes those reminders to kind of go is

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Speaker 3: this actually the right thing for you to do in

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Speaker 3: the long term.

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Speaker 2: Ellie Well, I.

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Speaker 4: Think it's a combination of things. I think, yes, it's

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Speaker 4: certainly self responsibility, but I think as some of the

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Speaker 4: media coverage around this has said prevention is the key here,

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Speaker 4: and the story I was reading says improved prevention efforts

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Speaker 4: could see between eighty fourteen thousand fure cancer diagnoses each year.

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Speaker 4: And I think the other thing with prevention to remember

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Speaker 4: is that prevention is all about catching something early as well.

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Speaker 4: You know, we've all heard the saying and an ounce

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Speaker 4: of prevention is worth I think it's a pound of cure,

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Speaker 4: and we really need to shore up our frontline primary

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Speaker 4: health services. That's where this prevention and nipping these things

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Speaker 4: in the bud happens. So I agree that we've got

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Speaker 4: to be more responsible, but it's actually more than that.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys tonight. Thank you. Bridget Morton, lawyer

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Speaker 2: at Frank's Ogilvy, and Ellie Jones from red PR on

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