WEBVTT - "Paddles' Biggest Fan" 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.360 Life in the Export of Beer Adden's Studio and brought 0:00:02.360 --> 0:00:04.200 to you by Export Ultra the beer for here. This 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:07.360 is the Agenda Podcast for Tuesday, the twentieth of August. 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:12.560 The Agenda Podcast, the home of Sporting Nonsense and clap Trap, 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:14.880 brought to you by Export Ultra. 0:00:16.239 --> 0:00:17.840 Morning Jeremy, Welcome into the podcast. 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:21.599 Kell you to turn the well. Who's got their conditioning 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:24.360 up in this bloody place? It's freezing out there today. 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:24.560 Too cold. 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:25.760 It's freezing. 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:29.880 Have you or have you been outside this studio? This 0:00:30.000 --> 0:00:33.199 studio is up and down. It's either sweltering hot or 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:35.080 it's Arctic blizzard cold. 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:35.960 It's been a pausal. 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:37.040 It has been a pausal. 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:39.200 Doesn't know whether it's hot, doesn't know whether it's cold. 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:41.040 Doesn't know whether it's trying to make babies or whether 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.559 it's trying to shut it down when it's drying up, 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:44.240 whether it's. 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:47.200 It's going up, it's going through the change it really 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:47.960 is this studio. 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:50.440 Yeah, a lot of a lot of snow down south. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:52.760 I'm getting a lot of photo has been sent through 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.400 and my mum's texting me, going Jesus cold down here. 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:57.560 Tell you what she doesn't want to hear. Me complaining 0:00:57.560 --> 0:00:58.600 about the weather in Auckland. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:02.600 Does that make you long for the for the horrific 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:04.440 weather of the South Island or not. 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:09.000 That not at all. I hate snow controversial opinion, largely 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:13.959 because I can't ski, but also because snow to North Islanders, like, 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.520 if you've lived in Auckland your whole life, snow is 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:20.480 this magical, mystical, whimsical sort of thing. But in reality, 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:24.360 it's sludge. It's everything's fucking wet. There's mud everywhere. 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:24.679 You know. 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.480 It's actually not as magical a time of year as 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.039 you think it would be, and it just makes life 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:33.559 so much worse. So yeah, me, personally, I can't guess snow. 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:35.880 Okay, So when you see snow, you see dead lambs. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:39.240 Yes, I see dead lambs. I see calves born too early. 0:01:39.440 --> 0:01:41.280 You see pain in the agricultural sector. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:42.119 Yeah, that's right. 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.240 You know, is it gonna is it gonna dry out 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:47.360 in time for you to put some feed down? Are 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:48.320 they gonna be eating off? 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:48.520 You know? 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:51.760 And there everything's going moldy. It's just it's sludge. That's 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:54.400 the part that people don't realize about it. It's not 0:01:54.440 --> 0:01:57.720 often that you get the powdery snow it's the sleety, 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:02.000 sludgy shit. That's just it's crashing your car. It's your 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.160 flatmate taking your car down to the deer and sliding 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:07.680 out around the corner and then lying about it. 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:12.880 Specific story. Clearly something happened to us along those lines. 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.760 Why don't saut to South Islanders driving snow tires? Have 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.560 you heard of snow tires? I went to Japan and 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:21.720 I was driving in the snow. Yeah, And I was 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.560 driving in a car, just a normal car, four wheel drive, 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:27.680 but it's a car, and it was a Sabaru Forester, 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:29.760 and I had these things called snow ties, which means 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.160 you don't have to wear chains. Oh, you don't put 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:32.680 chains on. 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:33.160 Nah. 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:36.000 These things grip in the snow. It's quite out of it. 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:39.840 They look like kind of normal ties, but they're they're softer, right, 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:43.680 and so when they when they get cold, they're still soft, 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.400 so they grip, whereas you know, opposed to normal tires, 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:48.799 when they get cold, they go hard and they slide. 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:50.960 It's like plastic. Yeah, I didn't. 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:53.800 I didn't get sideways once and I was driving in 0:02:54.120 --> 0:02:55.440 deep snow all the time. 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:58.040 Yeah, right, No, I'm sure that there would be parts 0:02:58.080 --> 0:02:58.839 of the country. 0:02:58.560 --> 0:03:01.799 That have them, and in certain times of the year, 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.480 but no, I haven't seen them so good. The snow tight, yeah, removed. 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:07.880 And there's nothing more humiliating than trying to put a 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:08.600 set of chains on. 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:12.720 The worst thing is that my partner, Tolsi, is really 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.919 good at putting on chains. So when we go skiing, 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:18.960 she puts on the chains and it's I say, I 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:19.960 sit in the side of the. 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:23.239 Car, keeping your hands warm, and. 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.320 She's out there on a mat getting dirty. And I 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:30.079 tell you what, man, I get some flsy locks, particularly 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:30.640 from women. 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:34.200 You're like, oh, it's the fucking seven chap guys. 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.600 Ideas like, she's good at it, she enjoys it. 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:38.560 What are you supposed to do? 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:40.800 I know some people are got it putting on chains. 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.640 Yeah, my missus has been backing a trailer than I am. 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.160 I'm mad enough to admit it. I'm not too proud 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.160 to say she's really good at backing a trailer. Grew 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:50.560 up on a farm. You know what am I supposed 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:53.600 to do? We've got the greatest New Zealander debate going 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:55.760 on at the moment, Jerry, and I thought I'd get 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:57.600 you in today because this one I know you'll be 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:59.760 able to weigh in on yesterday it was fred dag 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:00.560 Billy T. 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:02.200 Belly T won the. 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:05.680 Landslide really, and I think partially due to the fact 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:07.880 that a lot of fred Dagg's work was done over 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:12.200 in Australia. Also, fred Dagg just one of the characters 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:15.920 you know, played by Why am I. 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:18.239 Forgetting his name by John Clark? 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:18.880 John Clark? 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:22.160 Yeah, okay, so it wasn't John Clark. It was fred 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.839 Dak Yeah, yeah, fair enough. I mean fred Dagg was 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.920 good for sure, but watch character played by belly T. 0:04:28.160 --> 0:04:29.919 I mean, belly T played a whole lot of characters 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.559 and I think that's probably what what one. I also 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:36.600 think that belly T's remembered more fondly than fred Daggers 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:39.039 we're saying yesterday Heath was talking about, you know there's 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:42.000 the comedians when the towel of the other best comedian 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.840 of that year. So you know that one was won 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:47.680 by landslide. Today's one is going to be very tough. 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.240 It's going to cause a lot. You know, it's going 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.560 to tear families apart, this this one, and I know 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:55.040 you're already torn about it. Today's matchup for the Greatest 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:58.360 New Zealander of all time as Richard Hadley versus Dan Vittori. 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.960 Oh man, this is well, and you're asking me this question. 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:06.599 I'm asking you as as Richard Hadley's biggest fan. Yes, 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.520 and also a personal friend of Dan vatory. 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.440 This is really hard for me. I am definitely Richard 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.440 Hadley's number one fan. I've now realized it. I used 0:05:15.480 --> 0:05:17.920 to think that everybody loved Richard Hadley. I just grew 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:20.400 up thinking that he was like the greatest human that 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.400 ever lived, and therefore everybody loved him. And I was 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.440 one of the multitude of people who just worshiped everything 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.080 he did, including the way he skipped at the beginning 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:30.520 of his run up and the way that he wore 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:34.839 wristbands as well. And it's mistache, but it turns out 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.240 I was actually the number one fan. I loved him 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:41.960 more than he I paid more attention to everything about 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:43.200 Richard Hadley than anyone else. 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.400 Was it a slow realization when you're talking to people 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.280 at cocktail parties and realizing their eyes are glazing over 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:49.800 and you're talking about bowling averages. 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.880 It was a slightly slowly realization. But everybody came to 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:57.240 me one day when Stephen Fleming organized a lunch to 0:05:57.320 --> 0:06:00.880 celebrate the twenty fifteen Cricket World Cup. Then that and 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.520 Stephen Fleming organized very kindly. What a lovely man Stephen 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:08.440 Filming is. He organized me to sit beside so Richard 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:11.159 Hadley because he had heard that I idolized them, probably 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:15.000 through damnatory. And not only did he sit beside Richard Hadley, 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.520 he sat on the other side of me was wok 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:22.200 a Unice. I was in a handly Unice sandwich and 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.760 I love wo Unice. What a great bowler he was. 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:26.880 I thought he was mean and nasty because he always 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:33.200 looked terrifying he was bowling. He is the gentlest, nicest man, 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:39.000 really humble, just a very nice human. 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:40.360 Until you put the cherry in his hand and then 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.000 he's at your throat vicious. 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:47.000 I mean a green seemer with waka Unice steaming and 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:48.719 our old ball, new ball whatever. 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:49.200 Man. 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:51.200 That guy was terrifying, and he's up in your ribs 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:54.280 and he steamed in from miles and he really steamed 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:55.760 in and then he sort of did that thing we 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:59.120 jumped and stopped, which is terrifying as a batsman because 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:01.680 he's a pause like your way. You do if I 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.120 did it different, And then there's this pause that's like, 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:09.040 oh god, the shooting fire. Yeah, he's vicious and he 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.040 will got a bolt of devastating bounts of plus a 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:12.920 devastating Yorker. That's a terrible combination. 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:14.560 Is there a chance that you were set next to 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.640 Richard Hadley because no one else at that lunch wanted 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:17.760 to sit next to Richard Hadley? 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:22.200 Which turns out Richard Hadley loves the red wine. Really 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:23.880 I found that out. Okay, you know it's not such 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:27.080 a fan. But Richard Hadley nicked a couple of rids 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.720 and really loosened up and it's quite quite a good time. 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:33.400 Richard Headley, did you did you have any burning questions 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:35.440 that you'd carried since a child that you wanted to ask? 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:40.720 Of course I did. Of course I had a list. 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:44.480 I seriously had a list that was like five pages long. 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:48.200 But I realized I couldn't do that, and I, you know, 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:51.160 I'm not stupid, So I was like, Okay, I've got one. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.000 I'm gonna have to ask him one question, peppering him 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.480 with questions. Even though that that's what I'd like to 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.280 with questions, He's not going to do this. So I thought, 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.320 I've got one, and I was like, what can that 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:04.040 one be? And I was like, I know. So it 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.200 was around the change of run up when he went 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:08.320 from the long run to the short run. And in 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:10.960 that time and about nineteen eighty one nineteen eighty two, 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:13.200 he changed from the short to long and he used 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:16.120 to alternate actually, and he was criticized quite heavily in 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.200 New Zealand cricket for going back to the short run 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:21.240 up because he was our number one strike bowler, even 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:24.040 though he felt that he was a bitter bowler coming 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.200 off the short run. But anyway, when he did that, 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:29.680 he changed the beginning of his run up where he 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:33.280 used to skip you bringing his back leg, his right 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:37.080 leg around behind the left leg and sort of almost 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:38.800 in front of it. Was it was a very strange 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:39.920 kind of side on and over. 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:41.320 The left the top of the run up at the 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:42.439 top of the run up. 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:46.480 It was a really weird move. And he stopped doing 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.000 that to this little hop, this little skip at the 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:51.480 beginning of his run. There was a little with a 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:53.640 little with a little brush of the hand on the 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.320 on the legs. It almost liked to sort of put 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.319 the put the ball in the hand and go from 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:00.000 the transfer the ball from the left of the right hand. 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.839 And I always wondered. I was like that was was 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:07.160 that a conscious decision? Because it was quite a dramatic change. 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:10.680 It's quite a you know, to stop doing one and 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.040 start doing the other as a bowler. And he and 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:15.440 I said to him, I noticed in nineteen eighty two 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:20.440 that you changed from from around the back skip to 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:23.920 a little hop. And I said, why did you do that? 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:27.040 And was it? Was it gradual or was it one day? 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.480 And he said, nobody's ever asked me that, christ I 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:34.040 did that happened? And I said and he and I said, well, 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.160 I'm interested. And he said it was because I used 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.920 to play league cricket in county and county cricket and 0:09:38.960 --> 0:09:41.920 you were only allowed to come in off fifteen paces 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:45.280 faces really met. Yeah, And so I had the short 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:47.960 run up and I used that just to skip to 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.120 get me going because I couldn't bring the leg around 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.240 and get the timing right right. And he said, then 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.959 I just introduced it to Test cricket and one day 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:56.920 cricket was like, oh, there we go. So it was 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:58.040 it was a conscious. 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:00.520 Decision, right, So it was like Last Night Stands or 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:01.280 like Twilight Cricket. 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:02.840 We were only allowed to come off three paces. 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.480 Yeah, try and keep the games fast, I spose. 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:07.840 Yeah, that would be annoying in county cricket to have 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:12.160 some just village bird, who's coming off the boundary bowling 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:12.600 one ten? 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:14.400 Do we need it? 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:17.480 And in those days there were some big run ups yeah, 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:20.120 like oh yeah, there was some I mean Michael holding 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:23.920 he he was running in from about fifty meters. Yeah, 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:25.400 I mean that's a long way. 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:27.320 That's over the rope in some boundaries. 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:29.920 Yeah, that's in the park. He's coming from up in 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:32.760 the caterings and making his way down. So I think 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.800 they were trying to sort of shorten, shorten things down, 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.280 shut in the game. So that was I was so 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:38.840 proud that he said to me, No, does he ever 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:39.920 asked me that question before? 0:10:40.080 --> 0:10:43.880 Did that impact his bowling at all? Did it take 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:44.920 a couple of clicks off? 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:45.440 Did it? 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.720 I think he lost a couple of cliques, definitely, but 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.040 he gained a little bit of control. Yeah, And I 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:52.320 think all of a sudden, it was a golden period 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:55.560 from nineteen eighty two through to nineteen ninety he took 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:56.480 so many works. 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.040 Long as spells, I suppose as well, because he's not 0:10:58.080 --> 0:10:58.600 running as far. 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:02.120 Yep, that's exactly what he said, longest spells. And he 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.400 didn't lose a lot of pace. He certainly didn't lose 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:06.120 any of his bounce. I think that was the thing 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.840 with Richard Hadley. People don't understand he he was. He 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:13.200 came with a very high arm action, amazing wrist action, 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:15.960 and just extracted a lot of bounce. And you saw 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:17.960 it when you when you watched him live and I 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:19.839 watched him live a bit as a kid, and the 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:21.760 boy would always hit the gloves hard and it was 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:23.920 always on the app on the way through to insment. Yeah. 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:28.920 Right, So that's your h that's your love affair with 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:31.360 Richard Hadley. And actually, funnily enough, when I teached you 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.280 last night about coming on this morning, the last text 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:36.880 I had sent to you was I couldn't remember the 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:38.960 mantra that he had at the top of his run up, 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:42.160 and it just texted you what was what was Hadley's 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:45.200 rhythm Swing Lily Swing Lily? Was it the name of 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.000 his book as well, Rhythm and Swing. Yeah, he didn't 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:49.320 put lily in the in the title. 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:53.079 Oddly, The greatest moment I had with Richard Hadley came recently. 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:54.760 Came about three months ago when I went down to 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.280 his house. He was selling his house. I went down 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.120 for seven sharp to do a story and I wandered 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.200 around his house and he showed me around his house, 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:03.959 and then at the end of it, we sat down 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.120 in front of his big screen TV, which is giant, 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:10.199 must be about like eighty inches huge on these two 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:14.920 lazy boys in his house in christ Jurg and we 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:21.720 started watching Richard Hardley clips. So I watched Richard Handley 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:26.240 playing in nineteen eighty one against Australia at the SCG. 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:29.680 We took five wickets and I watched that with Richard Hardley. 0:12:30.520 --> 0:12:32.640 That was the That's one of the greatest moments in 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:34.760 my life. I would say, top top three. 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:38.360 How quickly was he able to pull that highlightrail up? 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.640 I was on his my sky, along with a whole 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:42.880 lot of other highlights of his. 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:48.240 How many other people have been subjected to this? Hey, 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:50.760 I know it was a trick for you, you. 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:53.800 Know it was. It was just amazing. I was like, 0:12:53.840 --> 0:12:55.720 if I could be in this moment for the rest 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:56.960 of my life, I'd be happy. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:02.439 Yeah, I'm just imagining his wife just been like again, she. 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:04.160 Was somewhere else. She was in another part of the house. 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:07.200 Oh god, he's watching himself on TV. But the interesting 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:09.600 thing he was critiquing his own performance, and he's like, 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:13.880 it's rubbish, a lot of rubbish. That is. He goes, oh, 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.920 good delivery coming up here. Watched this one just just 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.240 angles and then just nips away. And he was right, like, 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.160 there's a couple of absolute screamers. 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:23.400 Yeah, yeah, that would have been a beautiful moment. 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:24.000 Oh man. 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:29.240 Gelane recently retold the story about you being given the 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:31.439 keys to the roller at high school and rolling out 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.960 the pitch to within an inch of its life overnight 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:35.160 before school exchanges. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.680 It was a double whemy for me that not only 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:43.320 did I get off class, particularly particularly geography with mister Lloyd, 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.360 who didn't even know that I wasn't even on the class, 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:49.319 which I got my best market actually, but that was 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:51.880 an opportunity to get our class. Plus I loved just 0:13:51.880 --> 0:13:54.520 being on the roll. I loved operating a bit of technology. 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.720 Track is always fun to drive, cars are fund to drive, etc. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.800 And And yeah, you get to right get to the 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.040 piece and quiet of just sitting out and just rolling this. 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.679 But what I didn't realize is you can overroll a pitch. 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:09.080 Oh really, I didn't know anything about pictures. I just 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.319 wanted this really hard. I thought that the problem with 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.880 New Zealand pictures were they weren't hard enough. Yeah, and 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.040 it turns out you can just roll the living but 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.280 Jesus out of it. So this pitch would have it 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:21.520 was like a rolled piece of mud, hardly any grass 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.320 on it, and you'd stand it. You couldn't get a 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:26.520 key into it, and you think, oh, this is going 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:28.880 to be and with the new ball it would and 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.520 if you bowled first, it came through and then all 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:33.800 of a sudden it just died in the second inex 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.080 because they had no grass on it. And that's when 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:37.400 Victoria would come into his own. 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:39.600 Yeah. Right, So did that become a bit of a 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:43.080 like a play for your team? All right, Jerry's going 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.120 to get out there, roll this thing into the core 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.200 of the earth, and then Victoria is going to come 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:48.200 out and turn it square? 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:51.160 Well, was is it wrong that I produced a pitch 0:14:51.280 --> 0:14:52.880 that I then took six wickets on? 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:53.600 You did? 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.440 And yeah, and I wondered about that? Is that is 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:58.800 that legitimate. 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.480 Was there like a bump right at your leap that 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:03.640 no one else knew about it? 0:15:03.800 --> 0:15:07.880 Actually, the actually was, But it was not something that 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.040 I that I crafted, But I did know that you 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:11.840 knew it was there. I did, But I don't know 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:13.200 if I'm bowld from that end of the other end, 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.520 But there were there was a little ridge in it. 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.960 But but yeah, looking back on it now, I think, 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:19.520 is that actually a little bit dodgy? 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.520 No, it wasn't trying to be dodgy. That's just home 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.480 filed advantage. I think, yeah, that's that's always been part 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.320 of the Glane benefited from it, did he? Yeah, Glane 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.760 benefited from it. Would he come steaming in off the 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:30.280 long run? 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.840 Yeah, Gane Gulane knew the right areas to bowlin on 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:35.440 that pitch. Took a lot of wickets on that pitch. 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.200 So for you, you're gonna have to go Richard Hadley, 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:38.520 aren't you. 0:15:39.720 --> 0:15:39.920 Well? 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:44.000 I mean, look, I love Dan Vatory and I love 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:47.160 what Dan Vatory did. Mensely proud of Davatory as a person. 0:15:47.400 --> 0:15:49.040 You know, it's that thing when you know someone as 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:52.280 a kid, and I remember him as a fifteen year old, 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.000 when you know someone as a fifteen year old, you 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:56.280 know them for the rest of your life because you 0:15:56.320 --> 0:15:59.720 know their essence. And he's he's exactly the same. He 0:15:59.840 --> 0:16:00.840 is still a fifteen year. 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:02.040 Old, the man who filled the nation. 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:07.440 Yeah, he's he's he's smart, he's funny, he's cheeky, he's 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.200 a lot of fun and so I have a huge 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.840 amount of love for him. But I know that he 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.600 wouldn't He doesn't want to be a part of this. Yeah, 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:17.600 Like I know, if I know him, I know that 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:20.080 he would like me to vote him off. Yeah, right, 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:21.560 because he don't want to be a part of it. 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:23.200 He doesn't want to be doesn't want he wanted to 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:24.920 notice him. I mean, if he got to play cricket, 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:26.800 no one could have watched. Yeah, he would have been 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:27.480 much happier. 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.920 But he's also grown that sort of David Leedhiman post 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:34.320 career long beard that that guys get when they're like, 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.640 I'm sick of being in the public eye. I want 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:39.280 to go full Gandalf and just not have anyone recognize me. 0:16:39.400 --> 0:16:41.120 Yeah. Well, he used to take his glasses off back 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:42.480 in the day because he was you know, he wore 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:44.560 glasses cricket and he'd go out without glasses. 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:45.680 I don't think i'd recognize him. 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.840 People didn't. People didn't used to recognize him. Yeah, but 0:16:49.280 --> 0:16:51.080 you know, now he's in a situation. I mean, I 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:52.800 don't know how he goes in India. Now he walk 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:54.400 around India. Everyone knows who he is. 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:55.560 Yeah, tall white guy. 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:57.880 Yeah, it's quite full on in that situation. He can't 0:16:57.920 --> 0:16:59.920 go to a place like India and be anonymous. 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:01.400 It was funny you mentioned that some one of the 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.920 comments on social media said dan Vttori. They're voting for 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:06.720 Dan VATORI purely on the basis of him loading a 0:17:06.760 --> 0:17:09.080 couple of other players and his manner of the series 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.320 lancer and ripping donuts on the field in India. 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:14.159 Oh yeah, was it India or Bangladesh? It was one 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.240