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Speaker 1: Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

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Speaker 2: It's Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand Let's

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Speaker 2: get connected.

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Speaker 1: You stalk said, be.

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Speaker 3: A good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up shortly,

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Speaker 3: We've got the Prime Minister with us out of South

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Speaker 3: Korea in just a few minutes. The All Blacks team

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Speaker 3: is going to be named It five, So we're going

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Speaker 3: to go to South Africa. Have a chat to Alliot

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Speaker 3: Smith about who is in and who is out and

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Speaker 3: water care. It's going to be on the show later

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Speaker 3: on to explain that secret twenty million dollar deal with

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Speaker 3: White cuple Thaiinui. Heather Duplicy Ellen, let's talk about Reagun.

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Speaker 3: I watched the project's big interview with Raygun. This is

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Speaker 3: her first big interview and having watched that, this is

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Speaker 3: Raygun the Braid breakdowns from Australia. By the way, having

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Speaker 3: watched that, I think is pretty clear you should not

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Speaker 3: waste any of your emotions feeling sorry for Reagan, because

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Speaker 3: Reagan is not feeling sorry for herself yet. She is

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Speaker 3: making the most out of this situation big time. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the natural inclination obviously is to feel sorry for her.

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Speaker 3: Because she completely embarrassed herself jumping around like a kangaroo

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Speaker 3: on the Olympics stage, and she's since been the subject

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Speaker 3: of quite a massive global pile on on social media

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Speaker 3: and countless jokes at her expense, and even some accusations

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Speaker 3: that she'd rigged her entry into the Olympics, which do

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Speaker 3: seem to be unfounded, but she does not seem particularly

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Speaker 3: ground down by the situation at all. On the contrary,

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Speaker 3: in that interview last night, she seems to be kind

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Speaker 3: of enjoying the ride. She said, yep, absolutely there will

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Speaker 3: have There have been some tough times, and I'm sure

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Speaker 3: there will have been. But on the other hand, she's

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Speaker 3: quite enjoying getting messages from the likes of Richard Branson

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Speaker 3: telling her that he thought her performance was plucky and

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Speaker 3: that he would like to go her to go on

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Speaker 3: some cruises with boy George, of all people, as she says,

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Speaker 3: what is life and that, by the way, is the

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Speaker 3: least of what is going right for Raygun At the moment,

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Speaker 3: she's already signed up with a talent management agency. She

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Speaker 3: is apparently the subject of a fierce bidding war between

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Speaker 3: TV networks who want to sign her, and apparently Dancing

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Speaker 3: with the Stars for obvious reasons, are desperate to get

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Speaker 3: her on the show. She's been the subject of a

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Speaker 3: skit on Jimmy Fallon's Adal has mentioned her on stage.

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Speaker 3: She has been in so many international newspapers now that

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Speaker 3: I've actually completely lost count. She would, I reckon if

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Speaker 3: she would be one of the most famous athletes to

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Speaker 3: have emerged from the Paris Olympics, if not currently the

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Speaker 3: most famous athlete. I actually admire her, if I have

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Speaker 3: to be completely honest with you, because she is delivering

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Speaker 3: to us right now a masterclass in how to handle

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Speaker 3: online abuse and attention. Take the lemons, make some lemonade.

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Speaker 3: All too often people sit at home in a dark room,

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Speaker 3: they go on to the Twitter, they read the trolls,

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Speaker 3: they let it grind them down, and they go in

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Speaker 3: the media and they wine about how sad life is.

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Speaker 3: Raygun's not doing that. Raygun is milking this for all

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Speaker 3: it is worth. She understands the value of what's happening

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Speaker 3: to her right now and got on her for that.

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Speaker 3: So do not feel sorry for Raygun. Raygun may have

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Speaker 3: lost at the Olympics, but I'll tell you what she

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Speaker 3: is winning it life after the Olympics.

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Speaker 1: Isn't she ever do? For see Allen nine hers.

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Speaker 3: The text and I've got some. I've got some, got

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Speaker 3: some of the best bits for you. I'll play it

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Speaker 3: for you shortly now. Prime Minister is beating the trade

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Speaker 3: drum again on his ninth trip overseas since coming into office.

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Speaker 3: He's on a mission to double trade in the next

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Speaker 3: ten years. Spent two days in Malaysia, the first visit

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Speaker 3: by a New Zealand Prome minister there since twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 3: and he's currently in South Korea with trade and security

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Speaker 3: high on the agenda, and Christopher Luxin's with us.

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Speaker 1: Now, Hey, Chris, get a here.

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 2: They?

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Speaker 3: Well? Thank you?

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Speaker 5: Hey.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I've noticed about your trip is

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Speaker 3: that there's hardly any media coverage of it. What's going on?

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Speaker 6: Well, all I know is I'm going from meeting to meeting,

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Speaker 6: getting on and getting the job done, which is that

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Speaker 6: we have to get rich, and we've got to get

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Speaker 6: rich by selling more stuff to people around the southeast

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Speaker 6: Vita region for rich.

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Speaker 3: Chris, who've you got which media? Who's who from the

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Speaker 3: media contingent are on the trip with you?

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Speaker 6: We've got TVs there with us on this trip and

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Speaker 6: they were with me today when I was at at DMC.

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Speaker 3: We've got been at Hollow and that's it.

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Speaker 6: I think that's in the delegation. Yes, he's traveling on

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Speaker 3: Okay, use lying commercial, Yes I am. Well, there's your problem,

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Speaker 3: isn't it. You haven't subsidized the media to come on

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Speaker 3: the trip with you, so they don't want to pay.

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Speaker 6: Well, look, I mean I'm able to talk directly to

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Speaker 6: the New Zealanders through something called social media, which is

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Speaker 6: a novel idea, but it seems to work and talk

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Speaker 6: So I think people at home understand why I'm here

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Speaker 6: that and why I am here is because you know,

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Speaker 6: New Zealand needs to become much wealthier. We do want

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Speaker 6: to double our exports. We do want to attract investment

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Speaker 6: to New Zealand to get out roads built, to get

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Speaker 6: that's my job is to make sure that we are

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Speaker 6: making people aware that we are open for business and

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Speaker 6: we want to be able to work with them and

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Speaker 6: deep in those relationships.

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Speaker 3: Has the fairy issue come up in South Korea?

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Speaker 6: No, not at all, because you know, you've got to remember,

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Speaker 6: and ultimately that's a dispute between two commercial ent you know,

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Speaker 3: It's obviously sensitive enough for our ambassador there to have

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Speaker 3: to tell a high level diplomat beforehand, right, So, like,

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Speaker 3: are you telling me absolutely? No, one's mentioned it at all.

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Speaker 6: No, I hasn't come up in conversation whatsoever. And it's

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Speaker 6: not something that I've proactively raised either. It's something that

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Speaker 6: and they're quite capable of sorting that out.

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Speaker 3: Hey, how are you going to make us rich out

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Speaker 6: Well, look, I mean there's huge opportunities here. I mean

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Speaker 6: The same with things like blueberries and you know, even

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Speaker 6: We've agreed to look at upgrading our FTA agreement over

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Speaker 6: you know, we do not get wealthy in a small

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Speaker 6: out in the world and hustle. And that's why I've

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Speaker 6: Expect the four of us to lift our intensity and

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Speaker 6: we know when New Zealand firms are exporting, they are

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Speaker 6: We've got I think twenty two outstanding business leaders here

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Speaker 3: Did I hear that you saw one of those rubbish

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Speaker 6: But essentially, as we were standing there on the DMZAH

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Speaker 3: And they're weird and Jesus is like stuff you do

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of it's irrational and it doesn't make

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Speaker 6: that you very clearly the message I've been trying to

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Speaker 6: communicate over the course of this year. Is that that security,

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Speaker 6: peace and stability relatively we've had on the Korean peninsula

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Speaker 6: that South Korea has grown into the fourteenth largest economy

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Speaker 6: South Korea in the last nine years. And so you

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Speaker 6: cannot have economic prosperity without security and peace and stability.

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Speaker 6: And that's why I keep saying in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 6: security and economic interest are inextricably linked. And that's why

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Speaker 6: you've got be able to talk both of those conversations

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Speaker 6: at the same time.

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Speaker 3: What's up with Elon Musk's love affair with you?

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Speaker 6: I thought that, yeah, yeah, one of my kids told

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Speaker 3: But he follows you on Twitter. Now did you see that?

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Speaker 6: Anyone who's supported of us, that's great. So I take

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Speaker 6: support from anyone. But more importantly, I'm just focused on

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Speaker 6: the job and getting things done.

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Speaker 3: Listen, why don't you milk that for us? Like Elon Musk?

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's about dodgy, but he's got heaps of money,

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Speaker 3: so have a chair.

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Speaker 6: Well, I've got to do the business here in South Korea,

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Speaker 6: so we'll be focused on that trade. Make sure we

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Speaker 6: grow New Zealand. That's what it's got to be about.

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Speaker 3: Trade trip, job done, Trade trip to Elon's house next day.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Christopher appreciated. Look after yourself as

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Speaker 7: It's a fine idea to be it responsibly. It's a

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Speaker 7: Well I think that like when they lost to Argentina,

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Speaker 3: So I think we come back and thump them around.

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Speaker 7: Floating around that maybe what I might get a run.

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Speaker 9: Have you been up there?

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Speaker 7: Apparently I should go. Apparently Cape Town's a ripper. But

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Speaker 7: And Cape Town up the top of that table mountain?

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Speaker 9: Are they the cacus or are they baboon?

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Speaker 7: There are the Boons. Boons one of my favorite cartoon characters.

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Speaker 3: You've got to go up there. This is what you've

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Speaker 3: But also everybody just goes and does tabletop. But you

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Speaker 3: and that is a thing to see.

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Speaker 7: I'm not afraid of heights. That doesn't bother me. I felt,

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Speaker 7: oh parachuted, I've none, man, None of that bothers me.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that explains it. I'm just I'm not socking. I

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Speaker 3: hate it. Darcy, thank you. I'm looking forward to your show. Darcy.

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Speaker 3: Said stuff mate, four twenty three.

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Speaker 1: The men you trust to get the answers you need.

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Speaker 2: Heather Dupless, the Alan Drive with one New Zealand, let's

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Speaker 3: Be fair bit of consternation about the fact that Black

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Speaker 11: Gathered, cold, dusy.

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Speaker 3: Or hither I'm with you. Imagine if Tiku Morgan was

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Speaker 1: It's the World wires on news Talks. They'd be drive.

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Speaker 3: US Vice President Kamala Harris is called the Georgia school

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Speaker 3: shooting a senseless tragedy. A fourteen year old is said

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Speaker 12: Just outrageous that every day in our country, in the

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Speaker 3: And finally, Donald Trump is going to make conspiracy theorists

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Speaker 3: Trumps told the podcast Alex Friedman that he's going to

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are very interested in footage of UFOs.

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Speaker 11: I have to do that.

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Speaker 2: International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind

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Speaker 3: Olie Peterson six pr Perth Live presenters with us Aliyellow

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Speaker 8: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 15: She really rubs me out the wrong way, like this

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Speaker 3: She's just no good, Heather, Like she was no good.

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Speaker 15: Anybody could see that, and you know what I didn't

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Speaker 3: Like, oh hey, Reygun, you want to like collab.

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Speaker 15: You want to do something together. I mean, she's hoping

439
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Speaker 15: her fifteen minutes of fame becomes fifteen years of fame

440
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Speaker 15: and you know, who knows, maybe she'll appear in you know,

441
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Speaker 15: some ad for virgin or something with Richard Branson and

442
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Speaker 15: she'll have fun with Welle.

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Speaker 3: Come on, mate, she's giving us a masterclass on how

444
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Speaker 3: not to wings about the online trolls, but how to

445
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Speaker 3: make money off it. Now, what's your problem with that?

446
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Speaker 3: Is it because you're embarrassed as an Aussie? Yeah, big time?

447
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,840
Speaker 3: Like imagine that being your best breakdown.

448
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Speaker 15: So at the Olympics, that's become the butt of everybody's jokes.

449
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Speaker 15: And what's the one thing people are talking out of

450
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Speaker 15: the Olympics her and like that just reflects poorly on Australia.

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Speaker 8: We've got to do better, Heather.

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Speaker 3: You know what, You're gonna have to get used to

453
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Speaker 3: her face because she is going to be everywhere, right,

454
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Speaker 3: She's gonna be in Richard Branson's cruisers with boy George.

455
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Speaker 3: Of all people, She's gonna be all over your TV

456
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Speaker 3: shows because there's massive bidding war for her. So this

457
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Speaker 3: is not the end of it day.

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Speaker 15: I know she'll be on Dancing with the Stars next

459
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Speaker 15: to the block. Australia's got talent, obmouslebrity, get me out

460
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Speaker 15: of it. I can see it and I like it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm really enjoying it though, and not

462
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Speaker 3: just I just love her hot spar I just think

463
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Speaker 3: it's brilliant. Hey, listen, Bill Shorten, do we know how

464
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Speaker 3: much he's going to get out of the university.

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Speaker 15: Oh, he's just laughing all the way to the bank,

466
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Speaker 15: isn't he. He's gonna I mean, if you put it

467
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Speaker 15: in context that the head of the University of Sydney,

468
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Speaker 15: Mark Scott, used to be the boss of the ABC,

469
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Speaker 15: he's paid one point two million dollars a year. I

470
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Speaker 15: don't quite think he'll get that money from the University

471
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Speaker 15: of Canberra, but it'll be pretty healthy. I've got to

472
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Speaker 15: say it is a big loss for the government. Bill

473
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Speaker 15: short and he was a pretty boring opposition leader and

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Speaker 15: I reckon his personality is what let him down, and

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Speaker 15: the fact he lost a couple of unlosable elections and

476
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Speaker 15: got replaced by it in the Albanezi. Yes, he says

477
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Speaker 15: he has regrets, but look, he wouldn't change anything. He's

478
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Speaker 15: been a very effective minister looking after the National Disability

479
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Speaker 15: Insurance Scheme and taking it head on because that budget

480
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Speaker 15: is ballooning, you know, millions and million dollars every single

481
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Speaker 15: minute of every single day. So without shortened there, it'll

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Speaker 15: end the whispers obviously for the fact that an Albanize,

483
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Speaker 15: he's always good to look over his shoulder at somebody

484
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Speaker 15: wanting to take his job. But he's been an effective minister,

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Speaker 15: so you know, Bill short and good luck to him.

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Speaker 15: He's going to earn a packet at the University of

487
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Speaker 15: Camera but a big loss for albow.

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Speaker 3: Heym, which is the labor backbincher. Who is it who's

489
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Speaker 3: broken ranks of the gambling.

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Speaker 15: Ads So it's a guy by the name of Mike

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Speaker 15: Freelander who probably nobody listening to news talks zb's ever

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Speaker 15: heard of, but he's broken ranks saying there should be

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Speaker 15: a full ban on gambling advertisements, and he lives in

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Speaker 15: hope the government changes its mind. The government has now

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Speaker 15: said that advertisements will remain on TV for years to come,

496
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Speaker 15: but he is saying the major public health issue is

497
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Speaker 15: gambling ads. Every major health or goation across the country

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Speaker 15: supports a complete ban on advertising and gambling. I would

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Speaker 15: suggest a few calls have been made from the Prime

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Speaker 15: Minister's office to Labor and P Mike Freelander today saying

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Speaker 15: we respect your personal opinion, but just maybe keep it

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Speaker 15: to yourself.

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Speaker 3: Yeah maybe so, Hey, Ollie, thank you very much, really appreciated.

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Speaker 3: That's Oliver Peterson, six PR PERS Live presenter. All right,

505
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Speaker 3: this is the situation with here. The raygun is the

506
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Speaker 3: Megan Markele of the Olympics. She needs to rune a

507
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Speaker 3: memoir and call it spare me. Thank you, Jin. I

508
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Speaker 3: appreciate that. This is the situation with water Care. Watercre

509
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Speaker 3: was busted in the Herald this morning because water Care,

510
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Speaker 3: as in the people who provide the water for Auckland

511
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Speaker 3: is to drink, have agreed on the quiet to give

512
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Speaker 3: ewe in the White Cuttle twenty million dollars. They did

513
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Speaker 3: this in December last year and it seems to be

514
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Speaker 3: basically in exchange for being able to draw more water

515
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Speaker 3: out of the White Cuttle, because, as you know, Auckland

516
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Speaker 3: draws its drinking water out of the White Cuttle, but

517
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Speaker 3: there's a set limit as to how much it can draw,

518
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Speaker 3: and in order to be able to draw more, when

519
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Speaker 3: Auckland was having a dry out in January twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 3: it came up with some sort of like a little

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Speaker 3: arrangement with Tai Nui. And this is the outcome of

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Speaker 3: the arrangement. One million, one million bucks paid every year

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Speaker 3: for twenty years. Now. I feel uncomfortable about that because

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Speaker 3: I do not think New Zealanders should have to pay

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Speaker 3: anyone to be able to access water to drink that

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Speaker 3: isn't a river, okay, because that water is just there,

527
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Speaker 3: we should be able to drink it without having to

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Speaker 3: fork out millions of dollars in order to be able

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Speaker 3: to quench our thirst. But also what makes this worse

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Speaker 3: is that water Care has admitted that they and Tai

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Speaker 3: Nui quote mutually agreed that no press release would be issued. Basically,

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Speaker 3: they agreed to keep it secret. So I'm pretty annoyed

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Speaker 3: about that because one point seven million Aucklanders have been

534
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Speaker 3: paying for this and will be paying for this for

535
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Speaker 3: twenty years and they tried to shaft us on it

536
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Speaker 3: and not let us know. So we called Watercare and

537
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Speaker 3: we were like, hey, we discussed. We're like Watercare, I'm

538
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Speaker 3: going to talk about it. Are they will just try

539
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Speaker 3: let's see, Hey, do you want to come on the show.

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Speaker 3: And they were like, yep, yeah, Watercare is going to

541
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Speaker 3: be on the show after half past five. Stand by

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Speaker 3: for that. Barry Sobers next.

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Speaker 2: Politics was Centrics credit check your customers and get payments certainty.

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Speaker 3: Very senior political correspondence with us. Barry, Hello, good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 3: What is going on with this ethnic priority in hawks Bay?

546
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Speaker 3: I thought we knock this nonsense on the head.

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Speaker 9: Well, yes, that story that I broke last year about.

548
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Speaker 3: Page Witless, Yes, and that was.

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Speaker 9: Based on ethnic priority for Maori and Pacific Islanders. Now

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Speaker 9: they stopped that, and we were pleased to hear that,

551
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Speaker 9: because healthcare should never be based on ethnic grounds. But

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Speaker 9: in Hawke's Bay, fourteen to twenty four year olds were

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Speaker 9: recently receiving free GP services. Now from the first of September,

554
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Speaker 9: the rule is being changed to base it on race,

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Speaker 9: so at the top priority when young people go to

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Speaker 9: the doctor. Now, if they're Moldy and or Pacific then

557
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Speaker 9: they will get free healthcare, whereas the rest of eighteen

558
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Speaker 9: to twenty four year olds will have to pay for

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Speaker 9: their health care. Now, initially it was changed last year

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Speaker 9: sorry and yet last year in May to give everyone

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Speaker 9: everyone at that age group free healthcare. But now it's

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Speaker 9: being narrowed down to Pacific and Maldy and they've listed

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Speaker 9: a number of conditions that would attract free health care.

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Speaker 9: But I talked to the ministers off of Shane Retty

565
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Speaker 9: because look, this government never backs this sort of Did

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Speaker 9: he sign up on it, No, he didn't, and the

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Speaker 9: office seemed to be unaware of it. Health New Zealand

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Speaker 9: has been spoken to about it now and they Health

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Speaker 9: new Zealand put out a statement a while ago and

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Speaker 9: they haven't seemed to not ruling it out for the

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Speaker 9: rest of the country free health care for Maldi and

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Speaker 9: PACIFICA well.

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Speaker 3: Hold on, are you telling me they are not ruling

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Speaker 3: out the fact that they're going to roll out every

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Speaker 3: out further.

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Speaker 9: But the I think when the Minister's office sees this

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Speaker 9: and gets on to them, I don't if.

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Speaker 3: We take Shane Ritti's office at their word that they

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Speaker 3: did not sign off on this, and one of two

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Speaker 3: things is happening here with Health New Zealand. Either these

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Speaker 3: guys have gone rogue and they are doing things they

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Speaker 3: know this government doesn't want done. Or number two, they're

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Speaker 3: just so big and bloated as a bureaucracy that stuff

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Speaker 3: that is not supposed to happen is still happening because

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Speaker 3: I'm numpty in an office and hawks Bay is passing

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Speaker 3: it off.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they will be saying. They'll claim though Health New

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Speaker 9: Zealand they're doing it on need because more Maldi and

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Speaker 9: Pacifica are in greater need than what I understand.

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Speaker 3: The argument, well, why are they doing something that is

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Speaker 3: in direct co it is directly opposed to what this

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Speaker 3: government wants. Why are they doing that?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 9: Who knows? I mean, you know these authorities tend to

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Speaker 9: operate on their own.

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Speaker 3: So then have they gone rogue or are they just

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Speaker 3: so big they've lost track of all.

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Speaker 9: I think they've lost track of what's going on in

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Speaker 9: the health system and what is expected of them by

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Speaker 9: the government in Wellington.

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Speaker 3: That's my view is shesh okay, what about this bike

602
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Speaker 3: rack and Wellington? Have you seen it?

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Speaker 9: I couldn't believe it. I saw the headline and I've

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Speaker 9: got to say the old Textpayer's Union has done a

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Speaker 9: bit of work on this. But I saw the headline

606
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Speaker 9: five hundred and sixty three thousand dollars and I saw

607
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Speaker 9: bike rack and I thought, oh, they mean bike track.

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Speaker 9: So it's not a rack, it's a track, but no,

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Speaker 9: it's for a rack. Unbelievable. Twenty four bikes can be

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Speaker 9: parked in this rack opposite the council offices on the

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Speaker 9: Terrace in Wellington, so.

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Speaker 3: They are looking after themselves.

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Speaker 9: I must have a lot of cyclists in the Wellington

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Speaker 9: City Council and that comes after. And you may remember

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Speaker 9: this controversy a couple of weeks ago about an eighty

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Speaker 9: four thousand dollars bike rack that's never used that was

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Speaker 9: near the friar Burg Pool. I think so that was

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Speaker 9: never used, Like the taxpayer Union has said that ratepayers

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Speaker 9: have to know about this particular bike rack costing more

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Speaker 9: than well almost six hundred thousand dollars. Are there hit

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Speaker 9: special hidden features like does it come with a red carpet,

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Speaker 9: heated floors or a bike wash?

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Speaker 3: Very so this is just a bike shed. Well that's

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Speaker 3: literally all it is. It's just is it even three walls.

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Speaker 3: I think it might be three glass walls in a

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Speaker 3: roof and a bunch of racks. If the rain comes

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Speaker 3: in from the front, which in Wellington undoubtedly it will do.

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Speaker 3: Those bikes are gonna be where anyway?

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Speaker 9: Well absolutely, I mean it's just it was somewhere to

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Speaker 9: put your bikes, I suppose, but it's ridiculous and I've

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Speaker 9: got to say it wasn't signed off by the whole council.

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Speaker 9: I've talked around the council today.

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Speaker 3: Down on the smears.

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Speaker 9: There's fury in the council and it's even been suggested

635
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Speaker 9: to me it's time that a commissioner was called in

636
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Speaker 9: had to take take over the Wellington Sea. Can I

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Speaker 9: just remind this is by the people themselves, from within them?

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Speaker 3: Can I just remind you, though, that when Chris Luxon

639
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Speaker 3: stood there at that conference in Wellington and told them

640
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Speaker 3: to reign in their spending, they all responded.

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Speaker 9: But that we already are well, I tell you on

642
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Speaker 9: that vein I know with your saw has just come

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Speaker 9: out the South Taranaki District Council. It's new cultural center

644
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 9: has blown out from a starting point of eight million

645
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Speaker 9: dollars to twenty million dollars. Now the locals in South

646
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 9: Taranaki are up for an eleven percent rate rise. So

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Speaker 9: these vanity projects that Chris Luckson was talking about, he's

648
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 9: bang on, and no doubt you'll see more of these

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Speaker 9: exposed as time goes on.

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Speaker 3: No, look, the councils are reigning in their spending. I

651
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Speaker 3: don't know if it's the story.

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Speaker 9: I know they haven't got it sent to spare. They've

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Speaker 9: really cut back right back to the.

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Speaker 3: Perly because they were planning on putting a garden on

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Speaker 3: the roof of the bike crack and they've cut that

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Speaker 3: back to say.

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Speaker 9: That's a pretty for cyclists.

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Speaker 3: You want to pity for Wellington timing, it's like that, Barry,

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Speaker 3: thank you very much. I think we're all going to

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Speaker 3: have to have a cup of tea after what you've

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Speaker 3: just told us. Barry Soaper, Senior political correspondent, eight away

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Speaker 3: from five, putting.

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Speaker 2: The tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

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Speaker 16: Climate Change Minister Simon Watson is with us. We've invented

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Speaker 16: something that doesn't exist to ieu carbon market, and we're

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Speaker 16: trying to convince people to give you money on something

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Speaker 16: they may or may not want to buy into and

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Speaker 16: they don't.

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Speaker 17: Well, the purpose of the market is to reduce emissions,

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Speaker 17: it's not to create revenue for the government. So the

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Speaker 17: objective for me as Minister is ensure that that marketplace

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Speaker 17: is operating with an a credible manner.

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Speaker 1: Let's be clear.

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Speaker 17: When government starts dabbling with markets, bad things happen.

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Speaker 1: Which is the steering wheel.

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Speaker 16: So I knew you didn't invent it, but you're now

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Speaker 16: running something that people don't want and you're interfering with

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Speaker 16: the market, which you've just admitted is not good. Back

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Speaker 16: tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast then Jaguar.

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Speaker 1: F paces used talk ZB.

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Speaker 3: Hither it's Health New Zealand that had the two hundred commstaff,

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Speaker 3: isn't it? Do they do they? Still? Does anyone know?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know what's going on at

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Speaker 3: Health New Zealand. But look every look, both of the

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Speaker 3: stories that Barry just told us about being the blowout

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Speaker 3: with the bike rack in Wellington and the situation with

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Speaker 3: Health New Zealand run contrary to the story that both

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Speaker 3: of those organizations are trying to tell us. So Wellington

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Speaker 3: councils like christ Luxon's so mean. He punched down at

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Speaker 3: us when he told us to cut our spinning. We've

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Speaker 3: already cut our spending. And then you go, oh, but

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Speaker 3: did you really, because look at this majorly you can

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Speaker 3: build a house for the cost of that bike crack

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Speaker 3: like that's outrageous. And then Health New Zealand's all like, oh,

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Speaker 3: you can't cut, you can't cut any more staff because

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Speaker 3: it's going to affect the front line and we're already

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Speaker 3: we don't have enough stuff. Well, clearly you do, because

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Speaker 3: clearly it's so bloated that the bureaucracy is still pushing

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Speaker 3: stuff through from a government we booted out about a

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Speaker 3: year ago. Anyway, I don't feel sorry for there is guys.

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Speaker 3: I go, I'm like Lester Levy, keep on cut and

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Speaker 3: cut cut, cut at Health New Zealand, thanks very much,

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Speaker 3: and Wellington Council you need a commissioner. Anyway. We will

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Speaker 3: talk to the huddle about both of these things, because

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Speaker 3: quite frankly, we're all outrage don't we. The Rugby the

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Speaker 3: All Blacks team is about to be announced in three

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Speaker 3: minutes and thirty seconds time, so Elliot Smith will be

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Speaker 3: with us out of South Africa on that we have

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Speaker 3: got the first receiver's report into Dval. Now they have

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Speaker 3: questioned that this is the one that's been the subject

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Speaker 3: of a court battle and has just been released. They

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Speaker 3: have questioned the business's own internal valuation. The business itself

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Speaker 3: said it was worth four hundred and thirty one million dollars,

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Speaker 3: apparently with no documentation to prove this, and the receivers

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Speaker 3: have looked at it and said, I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: Not sure about that. Also, no surprises. The receivers are

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Speaker 3: pretty worried about some transactions, including, for Exampaul the Duval

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Speaker 3: group buying intellectual property from a trust that is associated

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Speaker 3: with the owners Kenyon and Charlotte Clark. And they paid

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Speaker 3: for this intellectual property fifteen million dollars. Now that had

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Speaker 3: better be some banging intellectual property to be paying fifteen

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Speaker 3: million dollars for it. Maria Slade will be with us

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Speaker 3: very shortly. Took us through that. And if you haven't

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Speaker 3: heard about Taytay breaking up with Travis, I've got to

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Speaker 3: tell you about this because this is a scandal brewing

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Speaker 3: right here. News Talk zb.

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Speaker 2: The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,

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Speaker 2: get the answers by the facts and give the analysis.

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Speaker 2: Heather due to see Alan drive with One New Zealand

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Speaker 2: Let's get connected a news talk.

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Speaker 1: As z B.

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Speaker 3: Good afternoon. The late Mary King's daughter has been chosen

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Speaker 3: to succeed her father as queen. Now why honouit Depoor

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Speaker 3: is the youngest child of kingy Tahitia and she is

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Speaker 3: now the eighth Mary monarch since the establishment of the

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Speaker 3: king Ydonga in the nineteenth century. Now Stacey Morrison has

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Speaker 3: been at the ceremony today is with us. Hey, Stacy, Keeldra,

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Speaker 3: how are you? I'm very well, thank you. Now she's

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Speaker 3: very young, isn't she.

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Speaker 18: She is, she's twenty seven years old. But she's been

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Speaker 18: groomed for this position her whole life. And we had

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Speaker 18: an into the coverage that we did today from tudong

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Speaker 18: Awawi m I that reminded us that she was nine

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Speaker 18: at the time that her father, King you Tu Hatesia

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Speaker 18: became king and so this is very much her whole

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Speaker 18: existence as the family got used to King you Tu

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Speaker 18: Hatia being in that role. And so although she is

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Speaker 18: the youngest, in recent years especially she's been the one

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Speaker 18: who's been quite prominent and quite well known and well

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Speaker 18: seen in all of the big Hui two.

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Speaker 3: She re educated, right, she's got a degree from Waikato University.

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Speaker 3: Apparently quite passionate. Abou kapa haka, Do we have any

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Speaker 3: idea anything more about her that we know that we

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Speaker 3: can kind of guess where she's going to take this.

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Speaker 18: One thing I'd say about her kapa Haka is she's

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Speaker 18: quite exceptional. She really stands out, and I guess that's

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Speaker 18: when we see the potential of this queen. Actually, I

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Speaker 18: think that that's when she is really firing, and you go, wow,

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Speaker 18: this is someone who's got a very strong will and character.

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Speaker 18: So I think, you know, at twenty seven years old,

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Speaker 18: we can all say we know ourselves to an extent,

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Speaker 18: but there's more potential and so I see in her

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Speaker 18: quiet and humble strength. So now her job is to

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Speaker 18: gather the people around her that she feels will be

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Speaker 18: best to guide her. I believe that there may be

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Speaker 18: some who continue on from her father's council and then

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Speaker 18: she can sort of set apart.

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Speaker 11: But it's a lot remembering that it was only.

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Speaker 18: A week ago that Kenni Tuti had died unexpectedly at

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Speaker 18: sixty nine years.

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Speaker 3: Old, you're too right, was she a popular choice. Was

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Speaker 3: there anyone else who was pought up as a potential contender?

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Speaker 18: I believe there were other potential contenders, And if you

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Speaker 18: think about the fact she's one of three, she's the

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Speaker 18: youngest and the other two boys, I do believe there

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Speaker 18: were other people who were considered.

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Speaker 3: What of your days? You give us some names?

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Speaker 11: Don't.

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Speaker 18: Actually, I am happy to say I don't know exactly,

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Speaker 18: but I heard and I resided, no, that was not

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Speaker 18: a name that I heard.

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Speaker 11: But I did hear.

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Speaker 8: Well.

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Speaker 18: I tell you what I really heard was the rapturous

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Speaker 18: applause when Queen Hanuid the Poor entered Tuo dungg Awahwai today,

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Speaker 18: And it actually took everyone by surprise because that didn't

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Speaker 18: actually happen for her father. And someone described to me

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Speaker 18: that it felt like a collective holding of breath. And

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Speaker 18: then she came through the Wild War and she was

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Speaker 18: announced as the next monarch, and people just burst into applause,

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Speaker 18: and apart from all the Kuttinger that were flowing and

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Speaker 18: all of the Haker, it was an incredible moment.

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Speaker 11: It brought me to tears. A lot of us were

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Speaker 11: just so.

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Speaker 18: In the moment that we couldn't quite describe at the

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Speaker 18: time how emotional it felt, but it was definitely part

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Speaker 18: of her losing her father so young, being twenty seven

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Speaker 18: herself and yet quite hope for in terms of like

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Speaker 18: you say, she's a well educated woman who's ready for

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Speaker 18: this position even though she has these young years.

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Speaker 11: So it was quite an exceptional date.

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Speaker 18: That's a moment that people who have been to say

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Speaker 18: that data Yaka, who's tonguey said, I don't know they've

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Speaker 18: ever experienced something like what we saw today when Nile

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Speaker 18: Way Honoid they're bought or you can call it in

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Speaker 18: our way. For sure, I believe was anointed and named

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Speaker 18: as an ex monarch whilst the king ethan.

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Speaker 3: Stacy, thank you, I really appreciate your time. That Stacey Morrison,

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Speaker 3: who's covering the Kings the Martin King's tonguey Hana today

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Speaker 3: ever du for c Ellen right well, the hotly anticipated

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Speaker 3: receiver's report into the Duval Group has been released. As expected,

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Speaker 3: It's quite complicated in there there were no consolidated accounts,

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Speaker 3: no financial records for the du Vile Group companies. They've

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Speaker 3: never been audited. Rather, and receivers have questioned the group's

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Speaker 3: valuation of more than four hundred and thirty million dollars.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 3: Business dest journalist Maria Slade has been looking into this

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Speaker 3: and it is with us now, how Marianne, Hello, Okay,

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Speaker 3: Now the business ball fifteen million dollars worth of intellectual

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Speaker 3: property off the couple. That sounds like a lot of

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Speaker 3: money just be spending on IP.

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Speaker 19: Is it? Well?

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Speaker 20: This is one of the things that the receivers have

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Speaker 20: pointed out is one of the main concerns are these

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Speaker 20: related party transactions that have sort of washed about this

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Speaker 20: very large group of seventy odd entities. And one of

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Speaker 20: the things that they identified was a fifteen million dollar

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Speaker 20: intellectual property transaction between the clerk's family trust and one

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Speaker 20: of the entities, and it was a loan and apparently

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Speaker 20: there's no zero accounting records or anything to show where

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Speaker 20: the funds came from.

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Speaker 5: The loan is now five.

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Speaker 20: Million dollars, But where'd that other ten million dollars go?

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Speaker 3: And what was it for?

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Speaker 20: Nobody knows, So that that's an indication of the kinds

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Speaker 20: of transactions they're very concerned about.

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Speaker 3: What about the valuation of the company. Was this just

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Speaker 3: something they made up? Where do they have evidence to

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Speaker 3: back this?

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Speaker 20: Came out a while ago, actually, So they wanted to

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Speaker 20: do a public listing, a float on the Stock exchange, supposedly,

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Speaker 20: and so they produced an information memorandum, which is what

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Speaker 20: you're supposed to do if you're going to do something

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Speaker 20: like this, and they put this value of four hundred

845
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Speaker 20: and thirty one million, a top end valuation on the group.

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Speaker 20: But that was their own finger in the wind valuation.

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Speaker 20: There was no independent valuation, So who would know whether

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Speaker 20: that had any validity because it wasn't based.

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Speaker 11: On a lot.

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Speaker 3: So was it a hot mess in there? Well?

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Speaker 20: The receiver John fisk described described it as a bowl

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Speaker 20: of spaghetti. And you certainly start to get that sense

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Speaker 20: when you look into things like, for example, one of

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Speaker 20: the developments, the proposed Edmonton muse out in Henderson, nice

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Speaker 20: little strip of land overlooking the two Eaglen Reserve, I

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Speaker 20: might add, nice spot. But that probably had four mortgages

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Speaker 20: on it, no less, and the investors were the third

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Speaker 20: or the fourth in the rankings. And one of those

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Speaker 20: mortgages was to one of their other developments. So one

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Speaker 20: of their other entities mortgaged their own entity.

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Speaker 3: Okay, John Fisker has got a job on his hands.

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Speaker 20: He certainly does, and as you identify all the accounting problems,

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Speaker 20: they never did consolidated accounts, so that's when you look

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Speaker 20: at the whole group together, never done. None of the

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Speaker 20: accounts were were audited. I mean, you know anyone knows

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Speaker 20: that's just kind of basic. You've got to have four

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Speaker 20: ardited accounts and the significant number of related party advances

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Speaker 20: including transactions they said that didn't appear to have anything

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Speaker 20: to do with the actual operating purpose of the entity

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Speaker 20: that advanced the funds.

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Speaker 3: Well, Maria, I'm sure you're going to see a lot

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Speaker 3: and there. Thank you so much for your time. I

873
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Speaker 3: really appreciate it. Is Maria Slade. Journalist from Business.

874
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Speaker 1: Desk, Heather Duper see Alan just really quickly.

875
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 3: On Twitter, looks like they're getting into increasing trouble with advertising.

876
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 3: So survey has just been done by Cantar globally. It

877
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: shows that twenty six percent of advertisers are planning to

878
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 3: cut their spending on Twitter next year, and this year

879
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 3: the number was only fourteen percent, So this thing is accelerating.

880
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: On Elon Musk. What that concerned about is the social

881
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 3: media platform's content and the fact that they're losing trust

882
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: and the information that's being spread on Twitter not good

883
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: news for elon Mask because already the advertising revenue has

884
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 3: been in free for it peaked. Global revenues peaked in

885
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one at four point four to six billion

886
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 3: dollars By the end of this year, les than half

887
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 3: of it one point nine billion all blacks next quarter

888
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 3: past BYD is going to take a byte out of

889
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 3: the ute market. It's got the world's first super hybrid

890
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 3: ute coming. It's called the BYD Shark six. That's why

891
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: it's taking a byte. And let me tell you this

892
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 3: thing is insane. I actually drove one of these things.

893
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 3: I drove a prototype at BYD's headquarters a few weeks ago.

894
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: These guys aren't messing around with the USA. It's got

895
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 3: two electric motors and it's got a petrol engine, and

896
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: combined that puts out as much power as an equivalent

897
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 3: four liter V eight. It goes from zero to one

898
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 3: hundred and under five point seven seconds, and it can

899
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 3: tow as well, so you're gonna get your grunt without

900
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 3: the guilt. It's got one hundred k's on the EV

901
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 3: only mode, and then it's got another seven hundred k's

902
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: in the hybrid modes, you never have to worry about

903
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: range anxiety. And like every BYD you can plug this.

904
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 3: You can plug in anything that's two hundred and forty

905
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 3: volt and voila. You got yourself a big portable power

906
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: generator to run things like your power tools or your

907
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 3: barbecue whatever. And there is listen to. This is the

908
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 3: important bit. There is just one shipment of these things

909
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: landing before Christmas this year, So if you want to

910
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 3: be the first to hear or when the pricing of

911
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: the shark is revealed in just a few weeks, you

912
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 3: need to head over to BYD auto dot co dot z.

913
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: Heather Dupele see Allen.

914
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: Eighteen past five. Now, the All Blacks have made a

915
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 3: few changes to the side ahead of the second test

916
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 3: against the spring Box, which is happening in Cape Town

917
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 3: this weekend. Body Barrett and TJ. Perinara have been benched,

918
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 3: Sevu Reese and Cortez Rasima will start, and then Wallace

919
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 3: Attititi will be starting in the number six journey. Jersey

920
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 3: Elliot Smith is in Cape Town for us. Hey Elliott, Hey, Heather, Okay.

921
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 3: Body Barrett's obviously being brought in as a bomb squad later.

922
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 21: Right, one hundred percent. Yeah, this is all about trying

923
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 21: to get that last twenty minutes right, which the All

924
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 21: Black simply didn't do last week at Alice Park. They

925
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 21: looked a little lost in last twenty minutes. So Boden Barrett,

926
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 21: the Rollie started in or came off the bench rather

927
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 21: in the last two at the first two tests of

928
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 21: the year against England, goes back to the bench. Will

929
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 21: Jordan at fullback, Tjer Petinara the other decision so very

930
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 21: much about getting that experience in the last twenty twenty

931
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 21: five minutes of the test match to try and close

932
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 21: it out. But this is what the spring Box have

933
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 21: done very very well. As you mentioned the head that

934
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 21: the bomb Squad, this is the All Blacks in some

935
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Speaker 21: part trying to replicate it on Sunday morning, your time, okay, And.

936
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Speaker 3: Why has TJ being pan TJ being benched, does that

937
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 3: also a bomb squad mover or are we not happy

938
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: with his performance?

939
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 21: My understanding is that it's still a similar it's a

940
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 21: similar decision to Boden Barrett trying to get some experience

941
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 21: in the last twenty minutes. You look at the players

942
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 21: they've brought on last week, Cortez Ratama, who's going to

943
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 21: start this week, was only in his fifth Test, so

944
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 21: they any experience in the last half hour or so

945
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Speaker 21: of the test match, and it's becoming vitally clear. I

946
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 21: think in test match rugby that the last thirty minutes

947
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 21: are just as important as the first sort of fifty

948
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 21: or so, and it's all about that experience. And TJ

949
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 21: Peanara as well. Remember was behind Aaron Smith for the

950
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Speaker 21: majority of his Test career. It's really only this year

951
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 21: that he's had a real run of start, so he

952
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 21: knows that bench roll really, really well, and that's what

953
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 21: the All Blacks want to get out of him this

954
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 21: weekend in Cape Town.

955
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 3: What's the vibe that you're packing up. Are they feeling

956
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: confident that they can actually nail the spring box or

957
00:43:59,200 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: are they a bit rattle?

958
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 21: No, well, it's a lot of confidence that hey, if

959
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 21: you get that last twenty minutes right, then they should

960
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 21: have won. Last week. They've accepted that they should have

961
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 21: won and should be you know with the you know

962
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 21: rid in that mix with the Rugby Championship, but they

963
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 21: blew that last twenty minutes. So the vibe very much

964
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 21: out of the team is if they can get that

965
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,320
Speaker 21: last twenty minutes right, they trust their game plan for

966
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 21: the first hour and they can get the win this

967
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 21: weekend and some of those changes that we've talked about

968
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 21: very much around that, you just hope that some of

969
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 21: the changes that don't mean they fall away in the

970
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 21: first hour and the game's gone at the hour mark.

971
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 21: So that's got to be intriguing come Sunday morning as well.

972
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Speaker 3: Elliott, thank you as always, look after yourself, stay safe.

973
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Speaker 3: That's Elliot Smith News Talks. They'd be Rugby commentator in

974
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 3: Capetown for the test and by the way, gues Ethan

975
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 3: Blackadder is injured.

976
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 8: Heather.

977
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: I just listened to the summary of issues in the

978
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: Duval report. One wonders why didn't the FMA act more

979
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 3: strongly early if they knew that they weren't producing consolidated

980
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 3: accounts or having them audited. Surely that should have set

981
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: off serious red flags. They did warn them on a

982
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: couple of occasions, but allowed them to continue. It's a

983
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 3: very good question. Five to twenty one.

984
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: Duplicy Allen cutting through the noise to get the facts.

985
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: It's hither duplicy Allen drive with one New Zealand let's

986
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 2: get connected and news talk.

987
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: As they'd be.

988
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 3: Heather, can you please explain a bomb squad. I can't

989
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: believe that I am explaining something in rugby to a man,

990
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna do it, Robbie. What a bomb squad

991
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 3: is is a squad that comes in that this is

992
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 3: specifically in rugby. This is the term that we're using

993
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 3: for it. So it's a squad that comes in towards

994
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 3: the end of the game, maybe twenty minutes out, and

995
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 3: they just come in and just bring all this fresh

996
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,759
Speaker 3: energy and they attack it like they are a bomb

997
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 3: going off in the game. Hence, bomb squad. You're welcome.

998
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,240
Speaker 3: Just Lady's plain in that five point twenty four listen,

999
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: listen to this, Okay. This is a list of corporates

1000
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 3: and countries who are abandoning their climate saving targets, or

1001
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: at least watering them down it can, and this is

1002
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: very recent. Volvo overnight ditched its plans to become one

1003
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: hundred percent EV by twenty thirty. Sweden yesterday announced it

1004
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 3: scrapping its climate flight tax. GM Motors has gone soft

1005
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 3: on its aim of producing one billion evs by the

1006
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,720
Speaker 3: end next year. Ford abandoned its plans to be completely

1007
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 3: ev in Europe by twenty thirty, and in New Zealand

1008
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: has ditched its twenty thirty climate target. On top of

1009
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 3: all of that, Krmala Harris is barely mentioning the climate

1010
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 3: has been noted and we'll talk about that later on.

1011
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 3: She hardly ever mentions it in the election campaign. Now,

1012
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 3: each of those corporates and countries that I just listed

1013
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 3: before will have their various explanations for why they're doing it,

1014
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 3: But in each of these cases, what they've hit up

1015
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 3: against is reality. There is, frankly, only so much a

1016
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: consumer will pay extra to save the climate. Consumers do

1017
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 3: not care about the climate as much as climate activists

1018
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 3: will have you believe. Yes, everybody cares, but when it

1019
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 3: comes to thinking about how much you're going to pay

1020
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 3: for it, suddenly you don't care as much because what

1021
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,479
Speaker 3: are we in? Cost a living crisis and putting food

1022
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 3: on the table is more important, isn't it than paying

1023
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 3: all that extra stuff. Now, if you have the choice

1024
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 3: of a PRICEEV or a cheaper petrol car, a lot

1025
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 3: of people are going to stick with the petrol car,

1026
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: both today and in twenty thirty. If Sweden is charging

1027
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 3: you a climate tax just to fly there. You might

1028
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 3: go none. They're going to go to Sweden. Actually, you

1029
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 3: might just go to Norway, go somewhere else. Now, the

1030
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: reason I'm telling you this, the reason I read you

1031
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 3: that list, is not because I'm thrilled that consumers don't

1032
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 3: really care about the climate as much as people say.

1033
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 3: I already knew this, I've baked this it and this

1034
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 3: is a fact. I'm telling you this because we're going

1035
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 3: to see more and more of this as the corporates

1036
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: get closer to their deadlines and have to be honest

1037
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 3: that they actually can't meet them. And the important thing

1038
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: for us here in New Zealand is that we do

1039
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 3: not tie ourselves up in knots as well trying to

1040
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 3: meet deadlines and targets ain't nobody else planning to meet anymore.

1041
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: Got to be realistic about this stuff. Okay, we make

1042
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 3: our money as a country off food largely, That's where

1043
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 3: a lot of our money comes from. And in order

1044
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 3: to grow that food, we have to release emissions. That

1045
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 3: just happens, and there is a lot of pressure from

1046
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: New Zealand, both internally and externally to cut those emissions,

1047
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 3: even if it is at the expense of making money

1048
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 3: for the country. So every time that pressure is applied,

1049
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 3: let's just remember everyone who's already walking back from their

1050
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 3: targets Air New Zealand, Volvo, gm Ford Sweden. The list

1051
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 3: will get longer and longer. Let's not make ourselves poorer

1052
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 3: by sticking to targets that others are already abandoning.

1053
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: Together for see Ellen, I'm going to get you.

1054
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 3: Across more of the detail later on in the program

1055
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 3: and talk to Huddle about that as well. Just a reminder,

1056
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 3: Watercare's boss is going to be with us just after

1057
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 3: the news. He's going to explain to us why they

1058
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 3: decided to keep that twenty million dollar payment to the

1059
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: wycuttle EWE a secret. Also, I feel in fairness that

1060
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 3: I have to say this that bike rack in Wellington.

1061
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: The total cost of the project was more than five

1062
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty thousand dollars, but the cycle rack itself

1063
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 3: was only one hundred and thirty six Everything else was

1064
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 3: like widening the curb and all that kind of stuff.

1065
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 3: There is an argument that all of that was done

1066
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 3: for the bike crack, but I just want you to

1067
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 3: know the detail. Headlines next.

1068
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: Hard Questions Strong opinion, Heather, do for ce Ellen drive

1069
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 2: with one New Zealand.

1070
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: Let's get connected and news talk as it'd be. I'll

1071
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: out the.

1072
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 20: Dovershid Wisni downtown.

1073
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 2: Yesty, there's a party bouncedown your fist.

1074
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 3: The Huddle is standing by this evening. We've got Mike

1075
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 3: monro Nicley get Heather. Are we as a species going

1076
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 3: to go extinct? Primarily due to it not being cost

1077
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 3: effective to save ourselves? Adrian? Have you met a human?

1078
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 3: Money matters? Money trumped most things, mate. It's coming up

1079
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 3: twenty four away from six now it has been speaking

1080
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: of money. It's been revealed today that water Care in

1081
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 3: Auckland has struck a secret deal to pay Y Cuttle's

1082
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 3: tinyui Ewe twenty million bucks. It'll be one million dollars

1083
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 3: every year for twenty years now. The agreement seems related

1084
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 3: to water Care winning the ability to be able to

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Speaker 3: draw more water from the White Cuttle River when Auckland

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Speaker 3: was in drought. Dave Chambers is the chief executive at Watercare.

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Speaker 3: Hey Dave, Hi, Heather, why do you keep it a secret?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's as we've as things have unfolded today, certainly

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Speaker 4: for had our time again we would have announced things

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Speaker 4: in a different way. We have been working with Waikato

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Speaker 4: Tainui on some of these issues since twenty twenty where

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Speaker 4: we had our first color Nada and it was refreshed

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Speaker 4: last year and resigned in December of last year. So

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Speaker 4: I certainly apologized to Auckland as if they feel as

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Speaker 4: anything untoward with that.

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Speaker 3: Do you think there was something Dave? No, No, explain

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Speaker 3: to me why you kept it a secret.

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Speaker 4: Well, we didn't keep it a secret. And really clarify

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Speaker 4: that it's a it's a maximum of a million dollars.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, I'm not ready to talk

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Speaker 3: about that. I'm not ready to talk about that, Dave.

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Speaker 3: I want to know where you kept it a secret.

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Speaker 3: You and Taynui mutually agreed not to release a press release.

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Speaker 4: Why, yeah, if we had our time again, why Dave.

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Speaker 3: When you made that decision, you made it for a

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Speaker 3: reason and what was that reason?

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Speaker 4: Well, as it's said, I can only apologize, No.

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Speaker 3: Dave, you owe me an explanation. I am a rate payer,

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Speaker 3: as are so many people listening to this. Why did

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Speaker 3: you not tell us? Why did you decide to keep

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Speaker 3: it from us?

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Speaker 4: It was a refreshed agreement from twenty twenty Heather, and

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Speaker 4: it was announced at that time.

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Speaker 3: I know that that is on the record. Why did

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Speaker 3: you keep it a secret?

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't think we did keep it a secret.

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Speaker 1: Why did you?

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Speaker 4: Can let me rephrase it.

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Speaker 3: You can understand this. Why did you not release a

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Speaker 3: press release? Why did you decide to not release a

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Speaker 3: press release?

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Speaker 4: Well, as I stay, we would do it differently if

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Speaker 4: we're having.

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Speaker 3: Why and what does come on? You guys made who

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Speaker 3: You made this decision for a reason? What was that reason?

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Speaker 3: Because I'm going to fill the blanket for you right now.

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Speaker 3: The reason was that we were going to react the

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Speaker 3: way that we're reacting right now. You didn't want this

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Speaker 3: bad attention?

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Speaker 4: Is that right? No, that's not the case at all.

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Speaker 3: So what was the case?

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Speaker 4: Well, with the as I said, all I can do

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Speaker 4: is apologize for not refreshing our our media statement from

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Speaker 4: that refreshed agreement.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what is this money being spent on?

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Speaker 4: So I'd like to clarify that it's a maximum of

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Speaker 4: a million dollars a year for projects to improve the

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Speaker 4: water quality of particularly the lower reaches the Awa the

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Speaker 4: Waikato River. Today, no money has been paid and because

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Speaker 4: the joint Working Party is just starting its work and

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Speaker 4: there'll be a five year plan. Representeds from both parties

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Speaker 4: report to both organizations and as to how that funding

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Speaker 4: will be allocated and particularly what outcomes will be delivered.

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Speaker 3: Does that money that million bucks a year include paying

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Speaker 3: the costs of two Kaitiaki two guardians.

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Speaker 4: No, I think it's for some secretary support for the group,

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Speaker 4: what a joint working party, and there'll be a program

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Speaker 4: lead for the for the projects that that we've worked

1149
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Speaker 4: on to improve the water quality. So this isn't it's

1150
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 4: it's not unusual to what's completely usual that that our

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Speaker 4: water catchments have protection programs and this is the Wayketo

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Speaker 4: River supplies normally twenty percent of Aucans drinking water.

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Speaker 8: Who are making.

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Speaker 3: Who else are you paying in order to be able

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Speaker 3: to draw water out for people to drink?

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Speaker 4: We're not paying these people to draw water out to drink.

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Speaker 4: Payments are for if approach, what these payments are for

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Speaker 4: and what the projects are for is to try and

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Speaker 4: improve the quality of the.

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Speaker 3: White Can this not a condition of getting your consent?

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Speaker 4: The two millions for the Waykatto River Authority was a

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Speaker 4: condition of consent.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, all right, Okay, how much is it costing

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Speaker 3: every household?

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Speaker 4: Well, we've got four hundred and eighty five thousand connected

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Speaker 4: customers across Auckland, social and residential.

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Speaker 3: So it's twenty million divided by four hundred and eighty

1168
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Speaker 3: five thousand.

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Speaker 4: No, it's a maximum of a million dollars a year

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Speaker 4: for projects to improve the water quality. And as have said,

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Speaker 4: to date, we haven't paid any money and because the

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Speaker 4: projects haven't been scoped as to what they are and

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Speaker 4: what they'll contribute to water quality improvements.

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Speaker 3: All right, Dave, thank you. Dave Chambers, chief executive at

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Speaker 3: water Care. Heather Court red handed. Does he think ratepayers

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Speaker 3: are stupid? Yes? I think he does. Zane Hither, I

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Speaker 3: have to keep checking my radio to see if it's

1178
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Speaker 3: working because of the long gaps. Peter Heither, you need

1179
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Speaker 3: to borrow Mike's trucks and clown cars. That water Care

1180
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 3: guy as a humpty shirl.

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Speaker 11: Hither.

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Speaker 3: The convoys are coming throck and fast through this interview here.

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Speaker 3: The ratepayers would have closed this down had we been told.

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Speaker 3: And that right there is why they kept it secret.

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Speaker 3: Because he didn't like what just happened to him. He

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Speaker 3: didn't like having to explain it, and they didn't want

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Speaker 3: to have to, and they hope we'd never find out.

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Speaker 3: I'm very happy to say that, I'm very happy to

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Speaker 3: come up with that little conspiracy theory right there. Eighteen

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Speaker 3: away from six.

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Speaker 2: The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty Exceptional marketing

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Speaker 2: for every property.

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Speaker 3: On the huddle of this this evening. Mike Munroe, former

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Speaker 3: advisers to Jacinda and Nick Leggett Infrastructure, New Zealand High Lads.

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Speaker 8: Hello, good day, Heather.

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Speaker 3: All right, Nick, do you want to have a guess

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Speaker 3: at why they tried to keep it secret?

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Speaker 5: Well, I think you've just touched on it, haven't you.

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Speaker 5: Look to me, this is perfectly defendable, particularly if you

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Speaker 5: went and said if you'd disclosed it and then you'd

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Speaker 5: said this is what the million dollars is going towards.

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Speaker 5: The issue here is that it's water care is now

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Speaker 5: on the back foot, as you've correctly demonstrated, and it

1204
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:06,799
Speaker 5: feels like something's being hidden and actually improving the health

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00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 5: quality of the way Cattle River in the part that

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00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 5: it's most polluted is not a bad thing, and it's

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Speaker 5: something that I think most people in New Zealand would

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00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 5: think was a good idea.

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Speaker 3: So this is not defendable because why don't we just

1210
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 3: call it out for what it is.

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 3: We do not pay to access water in this country,

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Speaker 3: and this gets around that by dressing it up as

1214
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 3: some sort of like appointing Kitesiyaki and doing all this

1215
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 3: research just paying to get water out.

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Speaker 5: But if it was, if you could, if you could

1217
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 5: demonstrate from the get go that there were tangible projects

1218
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 5: coming from this million dollars that were improving the health

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Speaker 5: of the river, I don't think people would have a problem.

1220
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 5: But there's no opportunity to explain that now because it

1221
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 5: looks like it's been covered up very much.

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00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 3: So I mean, Mike, how do they rescue themselves from this?

1223
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 22: Well, yeah, they've got themselves into a real pickle. And

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Speaker 22: I agree with Nick that, you know, they should have

1225
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 22: just come out there at the outset and see what

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Speaker 22: was going on. I mean, he mentioned a figure of

1227
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Speaker 22: four hundred and eighty five thousand people on their database

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Speaker 22: or whatever. To me, that's about two dollars twenty a

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00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 22: year per household.

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00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, but and then adding then added to it the

1231
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 3: forty million were already paying. And then before you know it,

1232
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 3: it starts becoming a lot more than just a couple

1233
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 3: of bucks than that.

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Speaker 22: But that number for the cleanup, the forty million dollars,

1235
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 22: that's already out there. They put that number out there

1236
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 22: when the deal was made.

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Speaker 8: This fun.

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Speaker 22: For some inexplicable reason, they decided to sit on it.

1239
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 22: And when you do a cover up like this, it

1240
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 22: always comes around and bites you in the bum at

1241
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 22: some point, and it did this afternoon when you just

1242
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 22: did your blistering interrogation there.

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Speaker 1: Either of poor Dave.

1244
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 22: So yeah, with Dave's secrecy always backfires.

1245
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 3: All right, guys, we'll take it. Don't side with Dave.

1246
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 3: Now listen, both of you guys are Wellingtonian, so I

1247
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 3: want you to. I want your take on the bike

1248
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 3: rack and Wellington very short. We will come back and

1249
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Speaker 3: do that sixteen away from six.

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Speaker 2: The huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, Unparallel Reach

1251
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Speaker 2: and Results.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we've got Mike Monronick legged on the huddle. Mike,

1253
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Speaker 3: what do you spend? What do you make of this

1254
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 3: spend on the bike crack on the terrace?

1255
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Speaker 22: I saw that article and I just thought it was

1256
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 22: more hysteria from the anti bike lobby myself. I mean, look,

1257
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Speaker 22: if we're going to incentivize people to get out of

1258
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 22: cars and to get on their bikes and use other

1259
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 22: means of getting into the city, there's got to be

1260
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 22: the infrastructure for it, Mike, and a half a million

1261
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 22: dollars for a bike rack is not a big deal

1262
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 22: when you put it alongside the millions that get spent

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Speaker 22: every year on roadways and curves and everything else.

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Speaker 3: Mike, are you listening to yourself? That is the cost

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Speaker 3: of building a house.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, but this thing's going to accommodate a rather large

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Speaker 22: number of bikes. And as a person who uses a

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00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 22: bike in that part of the city, it's severely lacking.

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00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 3: Why can't you just chain your bike up against a

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00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 3: pole like I do?

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Speaker 22: Well, up till now, I've been doing that, but now

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Speaker 22: I can use this flash bike hold on a tack though.

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Speaker 3: So, Mike, were you telling me you were riding your

1274
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 3: bike anyway without the bike, but now this is going

1275
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: to make you ride your bike because you've got a bike?

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Speaker 8: Rap?

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Speaker 22: No, No, no, there is there are There is infrastructure

1278
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 22: up there now to park bikes, but it's very limited.

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Speaker 22: In fact, I saw the councilor Calvert who's quoted in

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Speaker 22: this article today saying that no one ever uses the

1281
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 22: rack outside the council and that's not true. That's direct misinformation,

1282
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 22: place of misinformation. I've use it twice about the last

1283
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 22: three weeks, and there's always bikes there.

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Speaker 11: But the thing is there's a lack.

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Speaker 22: Of infrastructure up there, and a lot of people work

1286
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 22: in that part of the city and take their bikes

1287
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 22: in and like you say, they've got to strap them

1288
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 22: two power poles or whatever, and that upsets some of

1289
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 22: the passes by. So having a bike back to me

1290
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 22: makes emminent sense. And it's a good signal that bike

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Speaker 22: bikeers cyclis they are going to be looked after.

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Speaker 3: NAC next, save me from Mike right now, please?

1293
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the answer the Mike's right in the

1294
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 5: sense that we do need we do need infrastructure for

1295
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 5: a whole lot of ways of moving around. But it

1296
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Speaker 5: isn't bikes versus cars, mic. It's a bit more of

1297
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Speaker 5: everything else. But I think the real bit of everything

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Speaker 5: should I say that? The real issue here though, is

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Speaker 5: value for money, isn't it. People are being stung by

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Speaker 5: twenty percent plus rate increases and it's easy. And Mike,

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Speaker 5: you're a media man of all of us, you know,

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Speaker 5: you would know it's when things stick out and people

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01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 5: are struggling to pay heavy rates bills that these kind

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Speaker 5: of issues have attention drawn to them. So yeah, and

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Speaker 5: that and that's I think the real the real message

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Speaker 5: here is, you know, there's there is a challenge around

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Speaker 5: local government demonstrating value for money. I think we're right

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Speaker 5: to look at local government and central government for that.

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Speaker 5: And people will be scrutinizing the spending, but that the

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Speaker 5: answer to that is not to say spend nothing on

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Speaker 5: by some cycle lanes, but actually we've got to invest

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Speaker 5: in every load of transport. Let's not get bought into

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Speaker 5: this partisan it's.

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Speaker 3: It's not catastrophed. That's not what's going on here. What's

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Speaker 3: going on here. We're having a.

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Speaker 8: Respose.

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Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, because because there is a there is

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Speaker 3: a middle path here, Mike, that normal kiwis can see, right, Like,

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Speaker 3: I mean, iicycle, I cycle all the time, but I

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Speaker 3: think you can actually do hit sticks and you can

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Speaker 3: and there's your cycle way downe. You don't have to

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Speaker 3: spend millions dollars on just.

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Speaker 5: Made the points. You've just made the point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and you can build a bike use.

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Speaker 5: Different ways of getting around, and we should, Yes, we

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Speaker 5: should prioritize all of them.

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Speaker 3: It is Mike about the it's about going for the

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Speaker 3: gold standard. And this is the problem. Like a lot

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Speaker 3: of people are can be really upset about this. They've

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Speaker 3: been priced out of their houses and then they see

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Speaker 3: tories just gone and by it brought a bike thing

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Speaker 3: for five hundred thousand. It's indefensible, even.

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Speaker 22: Heather, I don't know what you think is an appropriate

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Speaker 22: amount for a bike rack so that people can get

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Speaker 22: their bikes safe in the city. I mean, there's it's

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Speaker 22: four hundred thousand, undred thousand.

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Speaker 3: You can reduce that by multiples.

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Speaker 22: Yeah, true, maybe you can. But but you know, I

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Speaker 22: don't know the sort of ins and out to budgeting

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Speaker 22: for bike racks, so I don't.

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Speaker 8: Just can I just make another Can I make another

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Speaker 8: point here?

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Speaker 5: I think the five hundred thousand was for the whole

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Speaker 5: lame way. Yeah, the bike greck itself was about one

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Speaker 5: hundred and thirty six. I'm just trying to Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just about of context. I mean it was all

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Speaker 3: done for the bike crack, obviously, but it all added up. Hey, Listen,

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Speaker 3: tell me something, Neck, What do you think of Reagan?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 3: She is milking her fame and you can either take

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01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 3: the approach of loving it like I am, or you

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Speaker 3: could go without Ossie correspondent who hates her for it.

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Speaker 3: Where are you on this?

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Speaker 5: I'd probably lead more to you on this, Heather. I mean, like,

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Speaker 5: she's got a hell of a lot of attention, she's

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Speaker 5: got a brand, she's an athlete, and she didn't she

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Speaker 5: didn't do particularly well, but she can she can get

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Speaker 5: ahead on on on the not variety, All power to her.

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Speaker 22: What do you think, Mike, Well, look, I think hither

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Speaker 22: that if she was so bad, if it was such

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Speaker 22: a bizarre perform and what was she doing there? And

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Speaker 22: what does that say about the qualifying processes in Australia. Yeah,

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Speaker 22: I mean, shouldn't the question be asked about the Australian

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Speaker 22: selection process and the people who ticked off her name

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Speaker 22: to be a competitor at the Games. I mean, she

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Speaker 22: went over there and did her best, but somebody in Australia,

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Speaker 22: or a lot of somebodies decided she was good enough

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Speaker 22: to be there and the other ones you'd be in

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Speaker 22: the gun, not Dearrol Raygun.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ray Gun, I love what you've done there. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 3: thank you so much, appreciate it. Mike Monroe, nick LEI

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Speaker 3: at our hudle this evening, right, Tatan next, You've got

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Speaker 3: to get across this. This is a thing that's happening

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Speaker 3: eight away from six, on.

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Speaker 2: Your smart speaker, on the iHeart app, and in your

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Speaker 2: car on your drive home. Heather Duplicy allan drive with

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Speaker 2: one New Zealand one giant leap for Business News Talk

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Speaker 2: zb BE.

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Speaker 3: Heather on the bike Crack even one hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: is ridiculously outragious. Twenty thousand tops installed, the metal workers

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Speaker 3: five thousand. Max Listen, I love Mike Monroe, but do

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Speaker 3: you have some insight now into Wyjisinda's government did what

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Speaker 3: they did and the calls they made, Like somebody would

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Speaker 3: have piped up in the meeting with Mike had been

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Speaker 3: like light Rail twenty nine billion, Mike would have been like, Yep,

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Speaker 3: value for money, handy pay, totally justifiable like Onslow twenty

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Speaker 3: eight billion. Yep, now go go for it, yep. The

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Speaker 3: bike Bridge to Birkenhead nearly seven hundred million dollars. Now,

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Speaker 3: Mike's like, yep, absolutely, just write them checks, write them

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Speaker 3: checks And sorry, Tory, did you also want to bike?

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Speaker 4: Great?

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Speaker 19: Yep?

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Speaker 3: How much five ony thousand go for? It explains a lot,

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Speaker 3: doesn't it anyway? Tata? So the latest with Tata. This

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Speaker 3: is Taylor Swift and the boyfriend Travis Kelcey. The latest

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Speaker 3: about this is whether there's Internet speculation as to whether

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Speaker 3: they're even a couple at all, or whether this has

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Speaker 3: all just been a sham romance for PR.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 3: The reason that the Internet's talking about this is because

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Speaker 3: a document has emerged suggesting they were doing it as

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Speaker 3: a stunt for PR. The document has the title Comprehensive

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Speaker 3: Media Plan for Travis Kelcey's Public Relations Following Breakup with

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Speaker 3: Taylor Swift, and the document says they're going to break

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Speaker 3: up on the twenty eighth of this month, and then

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Speaker 3: it lays out how to effectively manage and mitigate the

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Speaker 3: fallout from the breakout, and it ensures that Travis Kelcey

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Speaker 3: comes out with a brand intact and blah blah blah

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01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 3: blah blah. Now, the letter ahead of the document is

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Speaker 3: the letter ahead of his PR team, which is called

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Speaker 3: full Scope. Now, Full Scope have reacted like they've gone

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Speaker 3: nuclear on this. They're really upset about it. They've called

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Speaker 3: in the lawyers. They're going to hunt down whoever forged

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Speaker 3: this document. Because this has been forged, they're going to

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Speaker 3: hunt down whoever's behind it. And the Internet is very

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Speaker 3: divided at the moment as to whether the singer is

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Speaker 3: legit or whether it's a forgery and has just been

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Speaker 3: written by chat GPT or something, and various news publications

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Speaker 3: have come down on the side of it being a fake.

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Speaker 3: But here's the twist. Okay, so first of all, you

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Speaker 3: need the context. Showmancers, as in fake romances are not new.

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Speaker 3: They have been done for decades in Hollywood. They've been

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Speaker 3: done since the start of Hollywood, back in the day

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Speaker 3: before it was okay to be gay. They would often

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Speaker 3: just fake a romance and stuff to hide the fact

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Speaker 3: that a particular movie star was gay, or lift someone's

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Speaker 3: profile or something. Where it gets really interesting is that

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Speaker 3: the guy who actually handles Travis Kelsey's account at Full Scope,

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Speaker 3: Jack Kittsoyan, has actually admitted to in the past setting

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Speaker 3: up freak romances between clients. He was on an Aussie

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Speaker 3: podcast five years ago. He reckons he's already done two

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Speaker 3: famous couples purely for publicity. He said. One guy had

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Speaker 3: a movie coming out and he was getting really bad

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Speaker 3: reviews and stuff, and so they found him a girl.

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Speaker 3: It was a one year deal. He finished off the

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Speaker 3: press a little bit after that there went their separate ways.

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Speaker 3: And she also benefited because she went from being the

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Speaker 3: third build to a leading lady. So m divided on

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Speaker 3: that one. Am I right? And Plus I've got more

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Speaker 3: on this standby news talk z'b.

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Speaker 2: She's been trackive where the money is flowing with the

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Speaker 2: business hour, we'd had the duplicy Ellen and my Hr

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Speaker 2: on news Talks.

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Speaker 3: AB even in coming up in the next hour. The

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Speaker 3: oil price is at the lowest it's been in one

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Speaker 3: and a half years. We can talk to Liam Dan

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Speaker 3: about that. Jamie McKay got his gong today, almost knighted

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Speaker 3: but not quite. But anyway, it's huge. By the way,

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Speaker 3: he's going to be with us shortly, and Sam Dickie

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01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 3: will explain the weirdness that he's seeing going on in

1451
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 3: the US economy. Eight past six. Now we've got another

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Speaker 3: corporate as I was telling you earlier, who ditched its

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Speaker 3: climate targets. Volvo has just announced it's going to abandon

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Speaker 3: the plan to be fully electric by twenty thirty. Add

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Speaker 3: to that, GM done a similar thing, Ford done a

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Speaker 3: similar thing in New Zealand, and even a country, Sweden

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Speaker 3: abandoning similar plans. Associate Professor Doctor Rob Hales specializes in

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Speaker 3: sustainability at Griffith Business School in Queensland and is with us.

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Speaker 3: Hey Rob, Hi, how are you doing very well? Thank you?

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Speaker 3: Why do you think Volvo set the twenty thirty target

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Speaker 3: if they couldn't achieve it?

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 23: I think a few years ago there was a lot

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Speaker 23: of noise, a lot of excitement about net zero targets,

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Speaker 23: and I think this was all great to get corporate

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01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 23: businesses across the world, not just New Zealand, interested in

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Speaker 23: this area. And I think what's happening now there's a

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Speaker 23: bit of a maturation or maturity happening within corporations. And

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Speaker 23: there's some other factors as well coming in terms of

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Speaker 23: transparency and actually being able to deliver on some of

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Speaker 23: the claims. But I think there's a little bit more

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Speaker 23: maturity in terms of how we can actually go about

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Speaker 23: near zero.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, what they're doing is getting ahead of what was inevitable,

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Speaker 3: right it is much better to ditch than twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: four than to get to twenty thirty and be busted, right,

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Speaker 3: that's correct.

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Speaker 23: And in New Zealand there is a case in terms

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Speaker 23: of greenwashing coming up in the courts there, and there

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Speaker 23: has been a number of cases in Australia, quite a

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Speaker 23: few in Australia whether the corporate Regulator is actually examining

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Speaker 23: the claims of corporations quite seriously and fining and taking

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Speaker 23: businesses to court and also issuing notices to comply with

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Speaker 23: the advertar of their claims for sustainability and climate change.

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Speaker 21: Ah.

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Speaker 3: So do you anticipate then that this is just the

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Speaker 3: start of it? I mean, we're going to see a

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Speaker 3: lot more businesses walk away from their twenty thirty targets

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Speaker 3: as we approach it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think so.

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Speaker 23: I think what's going to happen is a term called

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01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 23: green hushing. You might know about green washing, but green

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Speaker 23: hushing is actually keeping your targets and keeping the mechanisms

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Speaker 23: to try and get there a bit quiet.

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Speaker 8: So there's been some.

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Speaker 23: Industry studies out there to show that you know, up

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Speaker 23: to twenty five percent of businesses aren't actually disclosing in

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01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 23: the public what their targets are. But they're actually going

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Speaker 23: ahead with you know, trying to meet targets and got

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Speaker 23: good mechanisms to do so within their business. But they're

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Speaker 23: just being a little bit more reserved about how they

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01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 23: go about advertising these things, mainly because of the liability

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Speaker 23: issues of false advertising.

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Speaker 3: And do they just announce it? Do they announce it

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Speaker 3: then if they reach it and they just keep it quiet,

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Speaker 3: if they don't.

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Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, they're or they're waiting to see how they go.

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Speaker 23: I think they're not. They may be saying that they're

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Speaker 23: committed to net zero. You know, this is a claim

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Speaker 23: that it's quite easy to maintain over time. But to say,

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Speaker 23: you know that you're getting out of the petrol game,

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Speaker 23: which one company in New Zealand said they're going to,

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Speaker 23: and then that got them into a little bit of

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01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 23: trouble because they're getting out of it, but then petrol

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01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:24,599
Speaker 23: sales increased in their business.

1516
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 1: That's correct, Yes, so.

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01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 23: You know, who knows where that's going to land in

1518
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 23: terms of the outcome, But the fact that it's going

1519
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 23: to you know, it's being disputed, means that companies are

1520
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 23: being very careful about claims that they're making now. But

1521
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 23: it doesn't mean they say that they're necessarily shying away

1522
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 23: because you've still got legislation in New Zealand and soon

1523
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 23: to be introduced in Australia next early next year in

1524
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 23: terms of accountability standards, sustainability accountability standards coming.

1525
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 3: In rob there are obviously industries who will struggle. I

1526
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 3: mean the airline sector is one that's going to struggle

1527
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 3: because what's the alternative? You know, like there's just not enough,

1528
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 3: there's not enough sustainable aviation fuel to be able to use.

1529
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 3: But what proportion of industry do you think is actually

1530
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 3: going to be able to meet its targets in twenty

1531
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 3: thirty across an economy.

1532
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:18,240
Speaker 1: Ah, that's a good question.

1533
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 23: I think there's another factor in here as well which

1534
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 23: makes it difficult to answer.

1535
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 2: Is that the.

1536
01:11:25,840 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 23: One point five scenario that was dated to be twenty fifty,

1537
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 23: if you've been following that, the I think in COP

1538
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 23: twenty nine coming up, we're going to see a shifting

1539
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,640
Speaker 23: of the date of when one point five realistically is

1540
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 23: going to occur, Like we're gotting a one point five

1541
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 23: net zero target. Yeah, and we've had you know, one

1542
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 23: point five degrees happen for more than five years in

1543
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 23: a row. The average over ten years is what determines,

1544
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,799
Speaker 23: you know, what is one point five degrees in the globe.

1545
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 23: So you know, I can bet my house that that

1546
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 23: date is going to change as to when we have

1547
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 23: the target set for net zero one point five. It's

1548
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 23: not going to be twenty fifty to be when is

1549
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 23: it going to be, Well, it's hard to say. I

1550
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 23: was actually just talking to a colleague about it beforehand.

1551
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:17,920
Speaker 23: It's hard to say where it's going to land. You

1552
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 23: can look up quite easily in Nature and other peer

1553
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 23: review journals talking about the twenty thirties as when the

1554
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 23: one point five degree mark is going to be crossed,

1555
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:30,879
Speaker 23: you know, and that's probably what's going to be debated

1556
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:34,680
Speaker 23: at COP twenty nine coming up. So when a company says, oh, yes,

1557
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 23: we're going to be aiming for one point five, but

1558
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 23: twenty fifty, there are challenges trying to meet that. But

1559
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 23: then there is extra dimension of you know that that

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01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 23: target I believe is going to change downwards any terms

1561
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 23: of time, So that poses even more challenges for businesses

1562
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 23: that are really progressive and even making those targets, so

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01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,600
Speaker 23: let alone the ones that you know in industries that

1564
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:06,080
Speaker 23: are hard to abate, like airlines, and also companies that

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01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 23: rely a lot on transport as well.

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01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:10,440
Speaker 1: That that's quite a tricky.

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01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 3: One, Rob, Thank you, I really appreciate your time this

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01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:16,559
Speaker 3: doctor Rob Hales, Associate Professor specializing in sustainability at Griffith

1569
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 3: Business School in Queensland. Heather, what about Lyle Lovett and

1570
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:24,759
Speaker 3: Julia Roberts, Heather, are you inferring that Lisa Marie Presley

1571
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 3: and Michael Jackson's marriage may not have been legit? Just

1572
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 3: saying Tayte herself has already been in a possible show mance.

1573
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 3: There is speculation that, remember she was going out with

1574
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 3: Tom Hiddleston all of our way back in twenty sixteen.

1575
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 3: She'd just broken up with Kate Calvin Harris, the DJ,

1576
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 3: and then suddenly she was going out with Tom O.

1577
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,760
Speaker 3: They dated for only three months and then they broke

1578
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 3: up long enough to distract from her breakup with Calvin Harris.

1579
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 3: Just saying, do you remember Jackass back in the day,

1580
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 3: Steve O, the clown who was on Jackass, He said

1581
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 3: that Nicole Ritchie only dated him as a big publicity stunt.

1582
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 3: So there's another showmance and they would deliberately call the

1583
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 3: paparazzi when they were together and get the photos taken,

1584
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 3: and that would be basically the end of it. Nick

1585
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 3: Lakey from ninety eight Degrees the boy Band all the

1586
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 3: way back in the day, he reconcided the same thing.

1587
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 3: He went on a date with a young woman nobody

1588
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 3: knew Kim Kardashian and called the barbarazzi, and well, that

1589
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 3: showmance worked well for her. So I'm just saying keep

1590
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 3: it open as a possibility. Maybe old Taitayan and Travis

1591
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 3: Kelsey is not a real thing. After all quarter parts.

1592
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 2: Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather dupericy

1593
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 2: Ellen with the Business Hours thanks to my HR, the

1594
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,880
Speaker 2: HR platform for SME on news talksb.

1595
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 3: Heather Benefer, Heather Benifer Reunion, all for the money. Now

1596
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 3: you're catching on a because this is how it works, right,

1597
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 3: So that screams of showmance, doesn't it. Jennifer and what's

1598
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 3: your name? Lopez? Thank you? Sorry? Sorry he wasn't paying

1599
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 3: that much attention, but obviously, because you know, I.

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01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 14: Was gonna say, I hope we're not accusing Jennifer Andison

1601
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 14: of beer and Brad Pitt of being a showmance, because

1602
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:06,600
Speaker 14: then it would be great. That would be heartbreaking, that.

1603
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 3: Would be great. Jennifer low Pears and Ben Affleck get

1604
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:13,719
Speaker 3: together after all of those years, after he's disgraced himself

1605
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 3: by being a completely grumpy, boring old man, they get

1606
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 3: back together, breathe a bit of life into each other's careers.

1607
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 3: She tries to do the tour. It doesn't go very well,

1608
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 3: so she cancels the tours that obviously didn't pay off,

1609
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:27,640
Speaker 3: and then they get divorced just before they're supposed to

1610
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,719
Speaker 3: get married. Yeah, I think you're onto it. Just saying

1611
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 3: eighteen past six anyway, sounded like a gen Z year there,

1612
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 3: and I'm embarrassed by that. The price of oil, talking

1613
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 3: about things that actually really matter, is the lowest in

1614
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 3: a year and a half. Brent Crewd is currently sitting

1615
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 3: at seventy two US dollars forty five cents a barrel.

1616
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 3: Liam dan as The Herald's Business editor at large and

1617
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 3: with us Now, hey Liam.

1618
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 8: Good air either Yeah, nice to have a bit of

1619
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 8: good news.

1620
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,560
Speaker 3: Oh you mean he's obviously not not benefit.

1621
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, no, I was thinking about the price of

1622
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 8: petrol at the pump. This weekend.

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01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 3: Actually, what's caused the price of oil to come back

1624
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 3: like this?

1625
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 24: Yeah, well, I mean, you know, I don't want to

1626
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 24: dig too deep because it might kill the good news

1627
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 24: vibe around it.

1628
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 8: But a couple of things.

1629
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 24: US economy is so that that sell off on markets

1630
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 24: Tuesday overnight Tuesday took oil with it, So concerns about

1631
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 24: the US economy usual thing. Markets came down a bit

1632
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 24: and and oil went but then some other things. So

1633
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 24: there was a bit of concern about China. You've got

1634
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 24: some geopolitical stuff happening. You've got Opek Plus has been

1635
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 24: talking about pushing up supply again, and they might get

1636
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 24: cold feet or they might go through with it, but

1637
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,280
Speaker 24: you know, they're talking about bringing back on a whole

1638
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 24: bunch of supply they took off earlier in the year,

1639
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 24: and that would put down with pressure on the price.

1640
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 24: And also some weird stuff happening in Libya, so that's

1641
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 24: had all sorts of political turmoil, and there was some

1642
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 24: talk that they might have got themselves a central bank

1643
01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 24: governor who was you know, it was very complicated stuff,

1644
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 24: but it was a trigger for the sell off on

1645
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 24: Tuesday night, and it went again on Wednesday night. So

1646
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 24: there's been been a bit of downward pressure for a

1647
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 24: month or so, and you might have noticed. People might

1648
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 24: have noticed that at the pump, but the good users,

1649
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 24: I think, you know, we've had another you know, five

1650
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 24: percent or so come off in the last day or two.

1651
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 24: So I think we should be driving into some some

1652
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 24: lower prices for Saturday and Sunday.

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01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:18,600
Speaker 3: I like what you did there, So we haven't got

1654
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 3: the cheaper prices yet, we have to wait for the weekend.

1655
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 24: Well, if you look back look at gas b the

1656
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,560
Speaker 24: you know, the consumer petrol website that says that the

1657
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 24: average price of only to ninety one has come off

1658
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 24: about five or six percent fifteen cents in the last

1659
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 24: twenty eight days. But I don't think that that's the

1660
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 24: retail price and it won't catch that fall of the

1661
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 24: last few days. So you know, the other factor you've

1662
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 24: got to throw in there is the k Kiwi dollar

1663
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 24: versus the US. But it's it's look, it's about the

1664
01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 24: same as it's been for some time. So I think

1665
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 24: that being stable, you know, fingers crossed that you know,

1666
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,639
Speaker 24: the petrol companies do the right thing and the price

1667
01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 24: comes down.

1668
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 3: Here Liam, thank you appreciated. Look after yourself, Liam down

1669
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,919
Speaker 3: there all Business editor at large. Heare the Kim Kardashian

1670
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 3: going on a date had nothing to do with her

1671
01:18:03,439 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 3: getting famous. It was a video, well, Tony ate, probably

1672
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 3: leaked by the mum. You're right, Tony, but maybe they

1673
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 3: tried the kind of just the stock standard go on

1674
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 3: a date approach before they tried the full noise explicit

1675
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:14,799
Speaker 3: video approach.

1676
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 14: You know what I mean.

1677
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:18,480
Speaker 3: And it didn't work. Obviously. Isn't Nick Lakey who remembers him? Nobody?

1678
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 3: Jamie McKay's already sent me a text bragging about what

1679
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 3: they ate today at the gg's house when he got

1680
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 3: his big gong invested your high tea egg sandwich, ham,

1681
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 3: cheese and pineapple sandwich. Controversial, controversial. Not everybody's going to

1682
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 3: be into that. Asparagus cheese roll, lamb shepherd's pie, SCons

1683
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 3: with cream and jam, how good, raspberry macharn and a

1684
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 3: lemon curd shoe pastry. And then he says, after all

1685
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 3: of that class from the GG, he goes great feed.

1686
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 3: So he obviously brought He just brought the tone down

1687
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 3: to be with us. Next six to twenty two, the

1688
01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 3: Rural Report on hither du to see Allan Drive and

1689
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 3: Jamie McKay, Host of the Countries with us now Jamie

1690
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 3: your majesty, Hello, Hello Heather, now iphoso of you that

1691
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 3: you sent through today and the gong that you've got

1692
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 3: for the member of the New Zealand Order of Merit

1693
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 3: is gigantic. It's like it's like a giant VC or something.

1694
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 3: Is that the thing that you're supposed to wear around?

1695
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 19: No, I don't think so. It may not see the

1696
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 19: light to day, might drag it out for anzac daye

1697
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 19: or something ether, But I don't want to be a corrector,

1698
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 19: but it's the officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit.

1699
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 19: You've got to get your own z and MS, right, Heather?

1700
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 3: I begg you, madam. So normally I see the people

1701
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 3: walking around with just a little badge that there was

1702
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 3: this tiny, little, just very very kind of discreete little

1703
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 3: white and red badge on the lapel of their jacket.

1704
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 3: Do you not get one of those?

1705
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1706
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 19: You get a wee miniature thing as well, so you

1707
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,680
Speaker 19: can plunk that on. It's a bit less ostentatious.

1708
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 3: Tell me what's your plan, your sutorial plan? Are you

1709
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 3: going to rock that out every time? You go to

1710
01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 3: something formal, wear your little badge.

1711
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 19: Oh no, I don't think so No, No, honestly I

1712
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 19: don't think so well, I hardly noticeable. But anyhow, look,

1713
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 19: it was it was a great honor and it was Look,

1714
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 19: it was great to be there, and it was good

1715
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:16,480
Speaker 19: actually to have the officiating minister the day was Andrew Hoggarty,

1716
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 19: of course, the Associate Minister of Agriculture. It was really

1717
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 19: nice of him to turn up because he got to

1718
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,599
Speaker 19: pick which day he wanted to go to and which crew.

1719
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 19: And there's like ten of us at each sitting, you know,

1720
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 19: Dame Cindy Caro has a morning and an afternoon sitting.

1721
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 19: And he looked through the list and he saw Murray King,

1722
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:35,879
Speaker 19: who was recognized for his services to the dairy industry,

1723
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 19: and myself, and he thought, I'll go along because I

1724
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 19: know those two buggets. So it was it was great

1725
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Speaker 19: to have Andrew there. It was wonderful to meet Dame

1726
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 19: Cindy Kero. She's so welcoming down to earth and no

1727
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 19: heirs and graces. I was worried I'd make a cl

1728
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 19: cup and break etiquette somehow, but she relaxed everybody. She

1729
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 19: was wonderful but at the highlight. I shouldn't say the highlight, Eather,

1730
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 19: but I did flick you through a week text before.

1731
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 19: I don't know if you've seen it. The menu for

1732
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 19: the what was the best?

1733
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 4: The best?

1734
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 19: But was the scarms with cream and jam. I don't

1735
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 19: know where they came from or who caters for Government House,

1736
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,560
Speaker 19: but I would kill for those. I would kill for

1737
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 19: those again and not far behind them the asparagus cheese roll.

1738
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1739
01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 19: Yeah, honestly, the high tea was wonderful. And the other

1740
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 19: highlight for me Heather, because when I saw who was

1741
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 19: in our group, I think we got one of the

1742
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 19: most exciting people of all the people awarded, and we

1743
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 19: got Sir Peter Beck.

1744
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,400
Speaker 4: And our group the Rocket Lab goy.

1745
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 19: You know, he's the guy's going to have huge influence

1746
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 19: over what happens in the world. Yeah, he got a knight,

1747
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 19: he's Sir Peter Beck. Yeah he got the gong, he

1748
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:50,639
Speaker 19: got the sword from Dame Cindy. So it was wonderful.

1749
01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,360
Speaker 19: But I was I thought, here's my chance to sneak

1750
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 19: ay interview with him. But I didn't want to be

1751
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 19: a fan boy, and everyone said, don't be a fan boy,

1752
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:01,560
Speaker 19: don't make it dick of yourself. Luckily his mum and

1753
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 19: it's from imper Cargoo. She'd listened to Hoganilli over the years.

1754
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 19: She wandered up and said, grateful see another Southlander here,

1755
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 19: and that was my opportunity here that I seized it.

1756
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 19: Sir Peter came running past. I said, excuse me, sir Peter,

1757
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 19: You've got a couple of minutes. And he was brilliant.

1758
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 19: So I recorded away interview for my show tomorrow with him.

1759
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:20,479
Speaker 19: Real highlight meeting.

1760
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 3: Jamie, congratulations. I know that makes you feel extremely uncomfortable

1761
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 3: because you're a self lamm but you do deserve it.

1762
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:27,799
Speaker 3: You realize that am.

1763
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 4: Well.

1764
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 19: You do have imposter syndrome, Heather, but you never look

1765
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 19: at gift thoughts in the mouth. And I'm very proud

1766
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:35,799
Speaker 19: for my family.

1767
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 3: Never turned down a feed, Jamie. Thank you very much,

1768
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 3: Jamie Mackay, Host of the Country. I've married, I've married

1769
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 3: into a good family. Now he's just lifted the tones

1770
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,600
Speaker 3: because a marriage to his cousin. So thank God for that,

1771
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 3: because I was for a while there, I was like,

1772
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 3: what have I done? And then now we've got an

1773
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 3: officer of the New Zealand Order of merit with this massive.

1774
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:57,080
Speaker 14: Gong' heatherdo for see Allen lady sober once removed.

1775
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:00,479
Speaker 3: Well, totally yeah, I'm likely for her majesty pretty much.

1776
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 3: Headline's next.

1777
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 2: Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, The Business Hour

1778
01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:11,639
Speaker 2: with Heather Duple of Clans and my HR the HR

1779
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 2: Solution for busy sms on News Talk zb.

1780
01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:17,560
Speaker 4: N.

1781
01:23:18,720 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 15: Can tell me.

1782
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: The sec.

1783
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 3: Here that we built a bike shed at the hospital

1784
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 3: that I work at and included some retaining woolwork, which

1785
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:38,720
Speaker 3: is quite expensive. Fully covered twenty three thousand dollars. We

1786
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 3: thought that was super flash but expensive. Well, Mike Munroe

1787
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 3: asked me how much would I spend on a bike crackle.

1788
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:46,240
Speaker 3: There's my answer now, and that twenty three thousand dollars,

1789
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:50,080
Speaker 3: not five hundred thousand. Speaking of which you will remember

1790
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:51,760
Speaker 3: that yesterday on the show, I told you that if

1791
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 3: we're mental, the Irish are just as mental because they

1792
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 3: do similar things. John is listening from Ireland. He says

1793
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 3: he's He says Tory would be a savior over here.

1794
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 3: Please see link below for details. I clicked on it.

1795
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,639
Speaker 3: It's the same story. John sent us the story about

1796
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 3: what's going on with the bike shed over there.

1797
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: What was it?

1798
01:24:10,280 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 3: I worked it out yesterday. I can't remember. It's three

1799
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 3: hundred and thirty six thousand pounds of euro actually, I

1800
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 3: think it works out of like six hundred thousand over

1801
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 3: there in New Zealand dollars. Anyway, into Brady being Iris

1802
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:21,840
Speaker 3: is just going to talk about it very shortly when

1803
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 3: he's with us the Titanic. I thought this was fascinating.

1804
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 3: Apparently the Titanic is rusting. I didn't know that this

1805
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 3: could happen underwater, but apparently it doesn't. It doesn't work

1806
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 3: quite the same way as it does above water. How

1807
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 3: it rusts down there is it's basically bacteria that get

1808
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 3: on the iron and start eating it. And they've been

1809
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 3: down recently to have a look at the Titanic and

1810
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 3: they've got some recent images and it shows bits of

1811
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 3: the ship of breaking away. But it's only the iron

1812
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 3: ironed by the looks of things, not the brass and

1813
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 3: the tile and stuff like that. So what's going to

1814
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:53,000
Speaker 3: happen in the end is that many many years from now,

1815
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 3: it has just been the smudge of iron oxide left

1816
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,519
Speaker 3: behind after the bacteria has done their stuff, and there's

1817
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 3: just going to be tiles and toilet and brass chairs

1818
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 3: and stuff a brass fittings, just all sitting around in

1819
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 3: the smudge of iron oxide. It will, though, fortunately, take

1820
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 3: a lot of time. We will all be dead before

1821
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:12,479
Speaker 3: this happens, most likely between two hundred and eighty and

1822
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,680
Speaker 3: four hundred and twenty years before we get to that

1823
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:16,240
Speaker 3: place twenty two away from.

1824
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 1: Seven together duple clos.

1825
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 3: So something quite weird is going on in the US economy.

1826
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:23,040
Speaker 3: The big drivers of the US economy being the housing market,

1827
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 3: the consumer, and the goods and services sectors are all

1828
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,599
Speaker 3: running apparently at very different speeds. Under the hood. Sam

1829
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 3: Dickey from Fisher Funds is with us. He's been having

1830
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 3: a look at it.

1831
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 25: A Sam good evening.

1832
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:35,839
Speaker 3: Okay, so let's look at each of these ones individually.

1833
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 3: So let's look at the housing market. What parts of

1834
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 3: it are running at different speeds?

1835
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 25: Yes, super interesting, weird. As you said, under the hood,

1836
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,679
Speaker 25: they are in extremely different speed. So take new build

1837
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 25: or new home sales. Those numbers are at decade highs,

1838
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 25: so ten year highs, whereas the number of existing or

1839
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 25: secondhand home sales are at ten year lows. In fact,

1840
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,280
Speaker 25: existing home sales are at twenty five year lows.

1841
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 3: And what about the US by the way, can you

1842
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 3: explain then why is that happening?

1843
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:08,640
Speaker 25: Yeah, So it's to do with the rapid rise and

1844
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:12,719
Speaker 25: mortgage rates. So if you think about it, most people

1845
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 25: who own home in the US sign mortgages, or I

1846
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 25: think for the eighty or ninety percent of them sign

1847
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 25: mortgages below three percent, So they're sitting on two and

1848
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 25: a half three percent mortgage rates, and the prevailing morge

1849
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 25: rate in the US is sort of was seven and

1850
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 25: a half percent now about six and a half percent.

1851
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 25: So the only reason and that mortgage is fixed for

1852
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 25: thirty years, so the only reason you'd have to refinance

1853
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 25: that is if you sold your house and moved. So

1854
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 25: even though you might have to move for a job

1855
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 25: or whatever, you're just not selling your house, so you're

1856
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 25: trapped in your mortgage. Whereas that people do need housing

1857
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 25: demandments this household formation every year in the US, so

1858
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:48,799
Speaker 25: that the new homes of satiating that demand.

1859
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:51,800
Speaker 3: What about the US consumer then, what are you seeing

1860
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 3: under the hood there?

1861
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 25: So the midden high end consumers in pretty good health.

1862
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 25: So overall retail sales in the US about three percent,

1863
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 25: which is very solid, certainly to new Zealand anyway, and

1864
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:05,719
Speaker 25: the mid and high end consumers probably growing faster around

1865
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 25: four percent, but the low end consumer is in pain

1866
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 25: and their spending is probably flat or going backwards, so

1867
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 25: they're effectively in recession.

1868
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's pretty self explanatory, right, we can figure

1869
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 3: out why that is and what's going on with the

1870
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 3: freight market.

1871
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 25: Yes, we've got in a decent freight recession in the

1872
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 25: US for the past eighteen to twenty four months. So

1873
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 25: I think about the volume of goods transported, they've been

1874
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 25: pretty anemic, and freight rates have been falling pretty sharply.

1875
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 25: In the manufacturing sector, which is part and parcel of

1876
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 25: a very weak freight market, has effectively been in recession. However,

1877
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:40,840
Speaker 25: that the service is part of the economy, and again

1878
01:27:40,920 --> 01:27:42,920
Speaker 25: this is the two speeding nature of this. A lot

1879
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 25: of these key drivers has been very strong, So think

1880
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 25: of services as finance, healthcare, restaurants, their travel with that

1881
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 25: part of the US economy has thankfully been booming.

1882
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:52,479
Speaker 3: Why has it been booming?

1883
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 4: Well, so.

1884
01:27:56,760 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 25: Particularly talking about that, remember the back end of COVID.

1885
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 25: You during OVID, the back end popped COVERD. We talked

1886
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,640
Speaker 25: about this before. We all wanted to buy goods. You

1887
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 25: remember this, global supply chains were all snarled up, So

1888
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 25: if you're aboarding one bike, the bike shop ordered three,

1889
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 25: and it was big waiting less on everything from boats

1890
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 25: to car parks around the world. And then, as is

1891
01:28:16,439 --> 01:28:19,200
Speaker 25: always the case with these kind of Bullworth effects, the

1892
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 25: supply chains unsnarled and all the invantry arrived at once.

1893
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 25: And by that stage we didn't want these bikes and

1894
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 25: more we were more interested in going to restaurants and

1895
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 25: traveling and all that good stuff. So we had this

1896
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 25: huge kind of glutt of goods inventory around the world,

1897
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:36,839
Speaker 25: and that's taken eighteen to twenty four months to unwine

1898
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 25: and hents the freight market in the US, which carries

1899
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 25: all these rounds in recession.

1900
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:43,840
Speaker 3: I see, Okay, Now, I can't imagine that this is

1901
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:44,439
Speaker 3: normal at all?

1902
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 1: Is it?

1903
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 8: No?

1904
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:47,880
Speaker 10: Usually?

1905
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 25: I mean, the driver's under the pout of any set

1906
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 25: that can move a little bit in different directions, but

1907
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 25: that this extreme sort of dispersion is quite unusual.

1908
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 3: What does it mean for investors? Sam, What should investors

1909
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 3: take from this?

1910
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:06,719
Speaker 25: I just think that we just need to be aware

1911
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 25: that the global economy still isn't working properly. I know

1912
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 25: you and I have talked about this quite a few times.

1913
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 25: We need to be more cautious than usual on Macroek

1914
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 25: four pasts and more cautious than usual nets. You know

1915
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 25: if you study in the company and its history, that

1916
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 25: that history won't necessarily repeat because this is quite a

1917
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 25: weird economic cadence.

1918
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 3: Run right now, Sam, thank you as always, really appreciate

1919
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:33,080
Speaker 3: your very interesting insights into what's going on that Sam

1920
01:29:33,120 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 3: Dickey official funds right Indebrady is with us shortly eighteen,

1921
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 3: ayway from seven.

1922
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,720
Speaker 2: If it's to do with money, it matters to you.

1923
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,880
Speaker 2: The Business Hour with hither duper Clan and my HR

1924
01:29:44,280 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 2: the HR solution for busy smy on News talk Z

1925
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 2: it'd be.

1926
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 3: Radio UK correspondents with us Evening Ender.

1927
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 8: Hey, have a good evening to you, do you reckon?

1928
01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:55,639
Speaker 3: We're going to see criminal prosecutions in the Greenfield tragedy.

1929
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 8: Yes, eventually. Look, the families have been wanting this for

1930
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 8: seven years. That's how long they've waited for the Public

1931
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 8: Inquiry to report back. It is front page news absolutely

1932
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 8: everywhere here and the report is scathing. I'm sure you've

1933
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 8: covered it already, but you know, It lays bare the

1934
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 8: systemic failures, the lies, the greed of the cladding companies,

1935
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 8: the construction companies, the failure of humanity really in the

1936
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 8: local council and its leadership and London Fire Brigade, the

1937
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,720
Speaker 8: issues they had with leadership and advice given on the night.

1938
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 8: Basically all the Groundfell families have been so badly let down.

1939
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Speaker 8: They're putting their trust now in Keir Starmer, who has

1940
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Speaker 8: promised them there will be justice. And I think the

1941
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 8: big difference now is that the UK Prime Minister is

1942
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Speaker 8: an ex prosecutor. He was head of the Crown Prosecution Service.

1943
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:50,200
Speaker 8: He knows what he's talking about. He knows what needs

1944
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 8: to happen to see criminal prosecutions. So it may take

1945
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 8: two or three more years. But the key line from

1946
01:30:56,560 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 8: the Metropolitan Police in London is that they are reading

1947
01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:03,040
Speaker 8: that report sixteen hundred and ninety four pages, line by

1948
01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 8: line to identify where they can go with their investigation.

1949
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Speaker 3: And who do you think would be most likely to

1950
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Speaker 3: be prosecuted.

1951
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Speaker 8: I think initially you're going to see perhaps corporate manslaughter

1952
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 8: charges perhaps against some people. From what I'm hearing, the

1953
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 8: police have a list of nineteen companies or organizations that

1954
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 8: they're interested in and fifty eight individuals, so they know

1955
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 8: who they're after, they know where they are, and they

1956
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 8: know what they need to do. But the families cannot

1957
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:34,839
Speaker 8: be let down anymore.

1958
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Speaker 4: I mean I was there.

1959
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 8: I mean never ever forget seeing Grenfelle for the first

1960
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 8: time the aftermath, to see something like that happen in

1961
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 8: a city as wealthy as this, in a country as

1962
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:50,640
Speaker 8: rich as this, to see something as utterly disgraceful as

1963
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 8: what happened at Grenfelle, and it was all because of

1964
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 8: the multiple fail failures. But them, I don't know how

1965
01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:00,240
Speaker 8: the families have kept going and I salute their resilience and.

1966
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Speaker 3: That I have been dying to talk to you about

1967
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 3: the bush shelter since I spotted it, yees today, What

1968
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 3: do you make of it?

1969
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:08,839
Speaker 8: Well, I spoke to a few politicians in Dublin overnight

1970
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:14,200
Speaker 8: and people are bewildered, very angry, and just wondering who

1971
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:17,080
Speaker 8: on earth signed off on this. So for a listeners

1972
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:20,000
Speaker 8: who perhaps haven't seen, I know you've had expensive bike shelters.

1973
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 8: In the past six hundred thousand en Z dollars the

1974
01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:27,479
Speaker 8: Irish government has spent on a bike rack for cycling

1975
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 8: politicians now have a Google around Irish politicians. They're not

1976
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 8: the fittest looking bunch. As you can imagine expenses, nice bars, hotels,

1977
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,519
Speaker 8: Dublin lifestyle. They're never going to win the Tour de France.

1978
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 8: Let's be frank here. And our government has decided to

1979
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 8: spend in a cost of living crisis, in a housing

1980
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 8: emergency where we don't have enough homes for Irish people.

1981
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 8: The government has spent six hundred thousand dollars on a

1982
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:55,679
Speaker 8: bike rack. I just cannot believe. It's not even made

1983
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Speaker 8: of gold.

1984
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Speaker 3: No, it's not even a good one, not even a

1985
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:00,160
Speaker 3: good one. No, it's not even got three walls, it's

1986
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 3: only got one. It's basically a canopy.

1987
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Speaker 8: Yeah yeah. And from speaking to people yesterday, there's about

1988
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:09,720
Speaker 8: a dozen cyclists in the politically community in government, so

1989
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 8: go figure.

1990
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:13,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, well we just we just popped one up in

1991
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 3: Wellington for five hundred and sixty thousand dollars. So you know,

1992
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 3: I'm starting, do you know what, I'm starting to form

1993
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,559
Speaker 3: a theory that we have spirit animals on the other

1994
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:24,000
Speaker 3: side of the world, like quite capable of making stupid,

1995
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:25,879
Speaker 3: like equally stupid decisions.

1996
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 8: You know what, I mean, I'm starting to think I'm

1997
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:31,439
Speaker 8: in the wrong business. Bike shelters is obviously the way

1998
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:35,640
Speaker 8: forward by for gullible people. I'm just honestly, I'm just

1999
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:39,679
Speaker 8: so so angry where I'm from and from a small

2000
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:42,599
Speaker 8: market town, country town in the southeast of Ireland called

2001
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 8: Enniscorthy and County Export. I guarantee you if someone give

2002
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:48,680
Speaker 8: me six hundred thousand dollars right now, I reckon I

2003
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 8: could get three family homes, not a word of a lie.

2004
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 8: I could get three families housed for that in nice surroundings,

2005
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 8: in a nice part of town with a little garden

2006
01:33:57,280 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 8: and a nice life.

2007
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:01,760
Speaker 3: That puts it in context. Hey, I see the Oasis

2008
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 3: have broken this silence finally, and they're going to do

2009
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 3: a couple more shows at Wimbley and the shows are

2010
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 3: going to be for people who missed out in the

2011
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:09,600
Speaker 3: ticket Master at debacle. Are you going to go for

2012
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 3: these tickets?

2013
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: Do you know what?

2014
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:14,679
Speaker 8: However, I'm not. I'm kind of sick of Oasis this week.

2015
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 8: Everything that has gone on, the lack of leadership, the

2016
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 8: lack of communication with the fans, and as I said

2017
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 8: earlier in the week, you know, working class people ripping

2018
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 8: off working class people, so I'm going to take a

2019
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 8: step back from that. Good luck to them. I wonder

2020
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 8: how they will distribute tickets, and I'm starting to think.

2021
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 8: I spoke to my mother in law the other day

2022
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:34,719
Speaker 8: and she told me that she has memories of queuing

2023
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:37,560
Speaker 8: up in Ipswich town in Suffolk when she was a

2024
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:40,760
Speaker 8: teenager to get tickets for the Beatles. And she said

2025
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 8: it was a matter of getting there late at night

2026
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:45,560
Speaker 8: and camping on a street and getting there, being in

2027
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:48,599
Speaker 8: the queue first thing in the morning and you've got

2028
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 8: tickets to see the Beatles. She did that twice, and

2029
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 8: I'm starting to think, is that how we beat the

2030
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 8: butts and the corporates that you know, tickets will be

2031
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 8: on sale and they'll go on sale at seven am

2032
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 8: and people can just queue up, and I think that

2033
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 8: solves the problem.

2034
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, the old school way, Inda, thank you very much, appreciated.

2035
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 3: Look after yourself. That's into Brady, our correspondent out of

2036
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:08,560
Speaker 3: the UK. Yeah, Oasis has said it's going to be

2037
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 3: invitation only, these tickets, these two gigs at Wembley, invitation only,

2038
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 3: and a ballot process for people who missed out. Quite

2039
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:16,600
Speaker 3: how they do that, I don't know, I think they

2040
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 3: just realized how bad this was for their pr So

2041
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 3: Reagun Raygun did her first interview the project, as we

2042
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 3: said at the very start of the program, and she

2043
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 3: says she knew she was going to lose.

2044
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, I knew my chances were slim. As soon as

2045
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 10: I qualified, I was like, oh my gosh, what have

2046
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 10: I done? Because I knew that I was going to

2047
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 10: get beaten, and I knew that people were not kind

2048
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:41,800
Speaker 10: of understand my style.

2049
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:42,640
Speaker 1: And what I was going to do.

2050
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 3: And then she went and did the kangaroo dance anyway,

2051
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 3: and this is why she did it.

2052
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:51,679
Speaker 10: I wanted to bring out some Australian moves and themes.

2053
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:58,080
Speaker 10: You know, I love our Olympic mascot BK the boxing Kangaroo,

2054
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 10: and I wanted to show that. And that's the wonderful

2055
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:07,639
Speaker 10: thing about breaking. You can take inspiration from any source.

2056
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:09,600
Speaker 3: I think she knew she was going to lose, and

2057
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:11,000
Speaker 3: she was like, listen, if I'm going to lose, I

2058
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:12,640
Speaker 3: am just going to become I'm going to be the

2059
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:15,200
Speaker 3: worst version of myself that I possibly can be. That's

2060
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 3: my theory. But that doesn't really square with the fact

2061
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 3: that she still thinks that she's the best B girl

2062
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 3: in Australia.

2063
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 1: Well, I think my record speaks to that.

2064
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:29,200
Speaker 10: You know, I was the top ranked Australian big girl

2065
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 10: in twenty twenty and twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three.

2066
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 11: I've been invited to represent.

2067
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 10: At how many World Championships Paris, Korea, you know, So the.

2068
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 3: Record is there, The record is there. The record is

2069
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:50,599
Speaker 3: there at the Paris Olympics zero eight away from seven.

2070
01:36:51,200 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 2: Whether it's macro micro or just playing economics, it's all

2071
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:58,760
Speaker 2: on The Business Hour with Heather duplessy Ellen and my HR.

2072
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 2: The HR plan on for SME newstalks a B. Whether

2073
01:37:03,000 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 2: it's macro micro or just playing economics, it's all the

2074
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:10,800
Speaker 2: Business Hour with Hither Duperic Allen and my HR. The

2075
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 2: HR solution for busy SMEs news talks a B.

2076
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 3: How many bikes could they give out to rate pays

2077
01:37:16,479 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 3: for the cost of that bike shelter? Rob, very good question.

2078
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 3: How many pipes could they fix for the cost of

2079
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:23,680
Speaker 3: the bike shelter? I think the opportunity cost is the

2080
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:26,680
Speaker 3: thing they should have thought about that anyway. Listen, very

2081
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:30,760
Speaker 3: interesting research on generations and what they're into when it

2082
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 3: comes to that.

2083
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 23: Mm hmm.

2084
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 3: So this is going to surprise you. This is going

2085
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:38,760
Speaker 3: to surprise you, and this is legit. It comes from

2086
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:41,680
Speaker 3: the Kinsey Institute at Indiana University, and Kinsey Institute is

2087
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 3: famous because they did the Kinsey Scale where they basically

2088
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 3: plot out, you know, from zero to six whether you're

2089
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 3: heterosexual or homosexual, blah blah blah. Anyway, so we've got

2090
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 3: lots of credibility. He came of all of the adult

2091
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 3: generations who are off sexy time age currently. Guess which

2092
01:37:56,760 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 3: ones prefer monogamy like, which ones are like, my fabeavorite

2093
01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:04,519
Speaker 3: thing to do is monogamy? Guess which one? The young ones, it's.

2094
01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 11: The gen z is.

2095
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,719
Speaker 3: These are the kids under twenty seven years old. Twenty

2096
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:11,479
Speaker 3: seven percent of them want fidelity. That's their favorite, that's

2097
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:16,320
Speaker 3: their favorite category. The baby boomers are the ones who

2098
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:19,719
Speaker 3: are into the friends with benefits the most, twenty seven percent.

2099
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:23,560
Speaker 3: You naughty, naughty baby Boomers. I was not expecting that.

2100
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 3: I was expecting it to be the other way around. No,

2101
01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 3: it's the baby boomers who are like, I just want

2102
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:30,120
Speaker 3: to be your mate and you know, Netflix and chill

2103
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 3: with you anyway. They want that more than monogamy. By

2104
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 3: the way, gen X, which is the generation forty four

2105
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:39,640
Speaker 3: to fifty nine, they prefer what they call ethical non monogamy.

2106
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:41,320
Speaker 3: Now I don't that's twenty four percent of them. I

2107
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 3: think ethical non monogamy is basically when you have an

2108
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:46,640
Speaker 3: open relationship, so you're in a relationship, but both of

2109
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 3: you agreed at being open, or maybe you're swinging, you know,

2110
01:38:49,240 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 3: with your pineapple upside down, whatever is going on there.

2111
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 3: And for the millennials it's also ethical non monogamy is

2112
01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:56,880
Speaker 3: the favorite at twenty seven percent. So there you go,

2113
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 3: flows your mind. So if I'm just giving you reasons

2114
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 3: not to hate on the gen Zs, the gen z

2115
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 3: Is of all of us are the most wholesome ants.

2116
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:06,800
Speaker 14: Oh possibly just the ones who are the only ones

2117
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:09,640
Speaker 14: who are naive enough and you know, romantic enough to

2118
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 14: think that they could possibly find anyone who will.

2119
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 3: Stay loyal to so cynical at such a young age.

2120
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:18,280
Speaker 14: Speaking of people who are cynical at such a young age.

2121
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 14: This is the new song from Benny. It's called Sad Boy.

2122
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 14: This is her brand speaking new out, just out today

2123
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 14: and it's her first release since twenty twenty three. She

2124
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 14: said she wanted to make a nice, peppy, summery tune with.

2125
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:30,679
Speaker 10: A dark meaning.

2126
01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 3: What's the dark maning?

2127
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 14: Oh, it's just it seems like it's a bit of

2128
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:34,680
Speaker 14: a toss it.

2129
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:36,960
Speaker 3: Oh he's a nice she thinks he's a nice boy.

2130
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:37,400
Speaker 11: That he's not.

2131
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:41,639
Speaker 3: Sad boy, Oh, sad boy. Enjoy Benny's actually very very good.

2132
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 3: So enjoy this and I'll see tomorrow.

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