1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Heather Duplessy. LA nine two ninety two is the text number. 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Standard text fees apply now to the Melbourne Cup because 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: this is the big sporting event of the day, isn't it. 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,079 Speaker 1: The TAB is estimating that New Zealanders are going to 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: collectively spend about thirty million dollars betting on the Melbourne 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: Cup today. There are three Kiwi horses taking part in 7 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: the big race at Flemington. You got sharp and smart, 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: you've got positivity and you've got trust in you. We're 9 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: going to be broadcasting, as I said, the race live 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: and free right here on Newstigs. There'd be at five 11 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: o'clock today. Mckgeran is the New New Zealand Herald's racing editor, 12 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: is with us. Now, Hey Mick, hey you that. 13 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: How are you? And I hope your listeners are having 14 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 2: a cool Tuesday? 15 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, meet, Well they're about to get a lot cooler 16 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: in about fifty minutes, isn't it. Who's going to win? 17 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: It's it's a tricky one. There's twenty three horses in 18 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: the race here that usually there's twenty four, but one 19 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: of them got scratched last night. Because the vets take 20 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 2: this race really seriously. If a horse has any little 21 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: tiny issue, whether that's structural or in any muscle or 22 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 2: the heart, they say, nope, you can't start, even if 23 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: the train is or owners aren't happy about it. So 24 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: after all of that, twenty three horses. They come from England, Ireland, France, Japan, 25 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: New Zealand and Australia. The Europeans are better at doing 26 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: this type of racing two mile racing or thirty two 27 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: hundred meters, and therefore they are the smarter bet. Now, 28 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: if you are going to have a bet today, listeners, 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: don't blow the rent money by all means, blow the 30 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: cappuccino money. If you can ever five or a ten, 31 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: you'll be okay. And I think bad's going to happen there, 32 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 2: but I do think that you could be smart if 33 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: you want to have two horses in the same race. 34 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: Number one is vau Barn. Now, he's really good and 35 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: he's the best horse in the race, but he's not 36 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 2: proven in Australia, which is a lot warmer obviously than Ireland. 37 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: So it's twenty seven great degrees there today. Last year 38 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: you're going a bit too syped up either, he's going 39 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: to bit too over the top, and there's eighty thousand 40 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: people there and he didn't like it much, but they 41 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: bought him out earlier this year and acclimatized him. He's 42 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: the best bet. He's paying seven dollars fifty. So if 43 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: you have twenty dollars to spend, and again I'm not 44 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: saying you should do that, but if you have twenty 45 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: spear ten dollars on voubar number one, and then your 46 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 2: other bit is number thirteen one smooth operator. Now he 47 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: is also from England. He's actually from York and the 48 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 2: top of England, but he's been out here. He's acclimatized 49 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: and he won race at Geelong two weeks ago. So 50 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: the flies, the heat, the Australians, those things aren't bothering him. 51 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: He's in a pretty good mood about life at the 52 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: moment and he's got a lightweight and his jockey, Craig Williams, 53 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: has won the cup before. So if you split your bit, Heather, 54 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: and I know you won't because you're working, but on 55 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: one and thirteen and you spend that cappuccino money, maybe 56 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: tomorrow you'll get two or three cappuccinos back. We can 57 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: add a cake to your orders. That's my legitimate punting 58 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: advice to those often. 59 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: Other than just being you know, wise with your money, 60 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: why would you not blow your rent money on it? 61 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: I do either. I bet semi professionally, so I bet 62 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 2: to that level. But it's no different to if you 63 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 2: don't research shears, you shouldn't be investing in the sheer market, 64 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: going to a fund and let them do it for you. 65 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: If you don't understand real estate, don't go buying a 66 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 2: whole of our houses. It's like anything like that. If 67 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: you don't understand a subject, but you still want to 68 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: have the fun. Like all people who are betting today, 69 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: it's going to the movies. When you go to the 70 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 2: movies at costua twenty or thirty or forty bucks, you're 71 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: training time for money and you enjoy the experience. But 72 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: you're also not becoming a movie critic or you're not 73 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: buying a movie theater. So that's the way I look 74 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: at punting today, and for many people it's the only 75 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: time they'll bet for the entire year. Enjoy it. If 76 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: you have a horse named after your auntie or your 77 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: favorite color, look legitimately they can win a New Zealand 78 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: horse called Prince of Penzance one paying one hundred dollars 79 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: back in twenty fifteen. But if you want to not 80 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: be bothered thinking one and thirteen, that's sort of lucky 81 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: numbers feather and it's about the best I've got there. 82 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: Okay, why are the key we horses not in there? 83 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: What's going wrong with us? 84 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: We sell most of our really good staying horses, so 85 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 2: these are called stayers. Horses who race past twenty four 86 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: hundred meters are called stayers. If you have a good 87 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: stayer in New Zealand, you'll tend to sell it because 88 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 2: a horse who's a Melbourne Cup type horse, you'll get 89 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 2: offered a million a million and a half when they're 90 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: three years old if they are good enough, and most 91 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: people are going to sell those horses, particularly there's only 92 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: two or three people the horses is life changing money. 93 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: We also sell a large percentage of our really good cults, 94 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: that's male horses, to Hong Kong, so we lose a 95 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: lot of our best talent, much lot we do with 96 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: rugby players going to France or England. We lose people 97 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 2: because of the market share and the economics of it, 98 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: so we don't always have a best horses racing in 99 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 2: the Melbourne Cup, but also the Melbourne Cup these days 100 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: isn't about the far lapse. The absolute best horses don't 101 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: run in it because a lot of them because of 102 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: the way we breed them. There race of that sort 103 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,559 Speaker 2: of twosan met range because it's worth eight million dollars 104 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: today either but the Everest, which is twelve hundred meters 105 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: a lot shorter, is worth twenty million. 106 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: Oh geez. 107 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of races which are shorter and 108 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: therefore people breed or train horses to run in shorter distances. 109 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: Whereas back in the day when Farlette was winning this 110 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: ninety six years ago, when the room was they were 111 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 2: all trained for this type of racing. So racing's changing, 112 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: breeding's changing. But New Zealand, because of the size of 113 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: the place and the struggles we used to have, things 114 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: are far better now. But we had struggles financially in racing. 115 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: We were selling a lot of our horses. So to 116 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 2: those who've gotten today this is a huge deal. You're 117 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: competing with a pool of thousands of genetically superior horses 118 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: to get them into the race. So those three New 119 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: Zealand horses who have gotten, which means they make up 120 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: twelve point five percent of the field. They've done pretty 121 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: bloody well. 122 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, actually, very good point, Nick, Thank you for to us. 123 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: I really appreciate mcgerran, Zeeland Herald Racing editors. So if 124 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: you can't remember what makes sense number one and number thirteen, 125 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: do not blow the rent money, always be over eighteen 126 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: and bet responsibly and stuff like that, et cetera. For 127 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to News 128 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: Talks at b from four pm weekdays, or follow the 129 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,119 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio.