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Speaker 2: Course with us after ten o'clock this morning. Right now

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Speaker 2: it's twenty four to ten, which means it's time to

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Speaker 2: get your film picks for this weekend. Francisca Rudkin, our

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Speaker 2: film reviewer, is with us this morning. Killed her Good morning,

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Speaker 2: Got two films, both of them showing in cinemas this morning.

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Speaker 2: So let's start off with a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: Listen to a new film starring Kate Blanchette and Michael Fassbender.

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Speaker 2: This is Black Bag.

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Speaker 4: You asked how it works to be with someone in

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Speaker 4: this business?

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Speaker 3: This is her.

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Speaker 4: You've each known what you know, and you know what

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Speaker 4: he'll do, and you'll never discuss certain things again.

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Speaker 3: I watch her, and I assume she watches me.

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Speaker 4: Would do anything for you?

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Speaker 3: What do you?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Anything? D that's black that's a black bag. Tell

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Speaker 2: us about it.

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Speaker 4: Oh, look, great calfs Michael Face caplane sheet start and

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Speaker 4: this really quite so mature, sleek, spy thriller. The best

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Speaker 4: thing about it Jack sleeping ninety minutes.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, that's great. Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 4: At the moment, we do seem to be people like

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Speaker 4: complaining a little bit about slogging their way through very

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Speaker 4: long films. This is a film I students photogurg and

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Speaker 4: of course you're thinking, gosh, didn't we just was the

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Speaker 4: film by him? Recently? That was the sort of ghost

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Speaker 4: supernatural number called presence. So for a man who decided

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Speaker 4: that he was going to retire from making films. He's

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Speaker 4: very prolific these days. This is a very sort of

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Speaker 4: sixy beautifully sort of put together a little mature number

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Speaker 4: with a very dry, witty script. He is very much

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Speaker 4: and trying to get more mature audiences back into the

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Speaker 4: cinema with a little number. It's not a full on

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Speaker 4: action in film as a sense kind of it's a

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Speaker 4: bit of a who Done it. It plays out a

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Speaker 4: little bit like a game of cludo, and our characters

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Speaker 4: here are all sort of trying to work out how they're,

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Speaker 4: you know, how each other maneuvering, and who potentially could

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Speaker 4: be a mole in London's National Cybersecurity Center. So Michael Fassbender,

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Speaker 4: he plays this character whose job it really is to

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Speaker 4: try and nut out who this potential mole might be.

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Speaker 4: And he's got some rather unusual ways of doing that,

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Speaker 4: Like he throws a dinner party for the suspects and

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Speaker 4: he puts a little bit of truth serrem into one

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Speaker 4: of the dishes, and that turns out to be rather

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Speaker 4: amusing and a dinner party probably quite unlike anything that

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Speaker 4: you or I have ever been to, and off they

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Speaker 4: kind of go. He also kind of uses a polygraph

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Speaker 4: test and things and to try and get to the

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Speaker 4: bottom of you know, who this person is and what

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Speaker 4: kind of unfolds here. Is sort of a lot of

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Speaker 4: personal as well as professional indiscretion. So he's his wife

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Speaker 4: is played by Kate Blenchet. She too, is a spy.

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Speaker 4: And the reason it's called black Bag is because you know,

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Speaker 4: when they might say to each other, Hey, darling, what

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Speaker 4: are you up to today, She'll go, I'm getting out

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Speaker 4: of the country. I'll be back tomorrow, and he goes,

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Speaker 4: where you're going and she's like, black bag. You know

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Speaker 4: it's in the black bag. It's something I can't tell

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Speaker 4: you about. It's you know, confidential. So it's also very

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Speaker 4: much a relationship drama as much as it is a

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Speaker 4: spy drama as well. Look, it's really well put together.

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Speaker 4: The tension is very contained. As I said, it's not

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Speaker 4: a full on action film. It's quite restrained and mature

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Speaker 4: in the way they approach this, and it's got that

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Speaker 4: great script, very cold characters as well. But look, it's

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Speaker 4: a lot of fun. It's kind of a bit more

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Speaker 4: like a more intelligent mister and missus Smith here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good way of putting it. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean I enjoy and missus Smith it was kind of,

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Speaker 2: you know, a bit of a dumb popcorn blockbuster. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: this definitely sounds like a bit of meeting. So this

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Speaker 2: is Black Bag. It's showing in cinemas at the moment.

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Speaker 2: Kate Blunchett and Michael Fairsbender and directed by Steven Soderberg. So,

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Speaker 2: as you say, an all star cast and production team.

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Speaker 2: Next up, let's have a listen to the trailer for

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Speaker 2: Hard Truths.

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Speaker 3: Look at you, fix your face. You're dealing with the public,

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Speaker 3: handling people's food. People can't stand him. Cheerful, grinning people.

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Speaker 2: I can heal laughing already. Friend.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Mike Ley. Look, he's the ruler and director behind

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Speaker 4: this film. He's one of the most thing British directors

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Speaker 4: of our time. He's spent his career portraying ordinary people

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Speaker 4: in their lives in extraordinary ways. You'll know his films

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Speaker 4: films such as Secret and Lies, Very Drake and Have

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Speaker 4: to Go Lucky and at the age of eighty, Toty

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Speaker 4: is back with a new film called Hard Truths. Atually

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Speaker 4: spoke to him last week on the Sunday Season and

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Speaker 4: it's really worth having a listen because he has remained

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Speaker 4: a staunchly independent filmmaker throughout his career, and he has

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Speaker 4: some quite interesting opinions on Hollywood and Sutain actors because

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Speaker 4: he's got a very particular way of working. He brings

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Speaker 4: in an actor and then they for months they will

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Speaker 4: rehearse and improvise and really get to the bottom of

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Speaker 4: these characters and who they are and how they know

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Speaker 4: their lives, which is why he's able to present you

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Speaker 4: with such complex, interesting characters in his films. He is

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Speaker 4: reunited here with Jean Baptiste, Mary Anne and Battiste and

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Speaker 4: she was in Secrets and Lives, I think with him,

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Speaker 4: and she plays Pansy, who was a deeply unhappy woman.

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Speaker 4: She is suppressed, she doesn't like leaving her house. She

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Speaker 4: just complains endlessly about everything and gets into some hilarious

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Speaker 4: arguments with strangers. But underneath it all, she's very lonely

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Speaker 4: and she's unwell, and she is dealing with, you know,

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Speaker 4: the consequence of the way she was brought up and

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Speaker 4: the way her mother treated her and things. And this

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Speaker 4: is contrasted to her sister, who manages to find the

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Speaker 4: joy in life and things that it gets to a

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Speaker 4: point where the sisters you know, is trying to help

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Speaker 4: Pansy help Pansy out. So it's kind of a moment

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Speaker 4: where she just reflects on her life and and how

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Speaker 4: she's living her life and happiness and things. Look, it's

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Speaker 4: awkward and comfortable that, you know, Mike Lee isn't going

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Speaker 4: to just present you with characters that you sit there

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Speaker 4: and kind of giggle along with and life along with.

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Speaker 4: It is challenging this film, but it's also got beautiful

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Speaker 4: moments of humor and ultimately sort of quite a poignant

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Speaker 4: moving end to it as well. I just think every

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Speaker 4: might Leave film is worth taking a look at. So

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Speaker 4: marring us back in, he's not going to stop, He's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, so that's hard truth that showing in cinemas now.

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Speaker 2: So as black Bag, black Bag was meant to his

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Speaker 2: first pick there. And we'll put both of those films

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Speaker 2: and all the details for them up on the news talks.

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Speaker 2: He'd be website. Thank you, Frands, you scopt catching in

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Speaker 2: next week. Francisco rod Can our film reviewer.

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