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Speaker 1: Very so sing your political correspondence with us Barry.

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Speaker 2: Hello, good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 1: Hiking the tourism levy is clearly just a money grab

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Speaker 1: to make the books balance a little bit better.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, it's incredible, isn't it. Well it shouldn't be,

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Speaker 2: because the levee goes towards they tell us, maintaining public

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Speaker 2: services are utilized by tourists, and you know conservation.

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Speaker 1: What the trade of giving dock more money?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so essentially those at the pit face of

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Speaker 2: tourism in this country. The chief executive of the tourism

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Speaker 2: industry said that modeling had found the increase could result

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Speaker 2: in forty eight thousand fewer tourists coming to this country.

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Speaker 2: The board, the airline Board of Representatives, they say that

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Speaker 2: tourism basically is soft in this country and we're lagging

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Speaker 2: behind the Asia Pacific region. So it's all about I

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Speaker 2: understand like you here, they said, you're editorial. I understand

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Speaker 2: the levy going up because I think tourists should be

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Speaker 2: paying a bit more, although I did look at some

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Speaker 2: countries overseas. If you take the UK, for example, the

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Speaker 2: levy to enter the UK is ten pound and that

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Speaker 2: lasts for two years. If you come back, you don't

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Speaker 2: have to pay it again, and ours is one hundred.

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Speaker 2: And don't forget that we're have a departure tax as

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Speaker 2: well from this country, so you pay for the privilege

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Speaker 2: of leaving the country that's been on the box for

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Speaker 2: a long time. That's only twenty five bucks. But nevertheless

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Speaker 2: it is another cost that goes on to tourists, usually

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Speaker 2: though through the ear fears, so you don't notice that

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Speaker 2: one as much, but it's still there.

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Speaker 1: How much of a bollocking did Judy give Shane?

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Speaker 2: You imagine sitting across the table from Shane Jones and saying, look, Shane,

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Speaker 2: you shouldn't have said that. It's not the sort of

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Speaker 2: thing that we would doing. Showy.

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Speaker 1: If I imagine this between Judas Collins and Shane Jones,

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Speaker 1: which frankly I do enjoy imagining, I feel like I

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Speaker 1: feel like she is one of the few people that

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Speaker 1: he would sit down and take get from.

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Speaker 2: I don't know though, I mean, Judith Collins has got

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Speaker 2: a very good sense of humor as well, and you know,

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Speaker 2: be a little scary.

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Speaker 3: She can be.

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Speaker 2: Scary, but when you look at Justice Sheryl glynnon the

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Speaker 2: High Court Judge Sits and Wellington. She was a member

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Speaker 2: of a communist organization in her youth, in her young days,

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Speaker 2: and that's probably common to many of us that you know,

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Speaker 2: we had different leanings to what we may have to.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: I was probably much more left wing than I am today,

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Speaker 2: but there you go. But Shane Jones, it's his sixty

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Speaker 2: fifth birthday today, so you can wish him happy birthday.

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Speaker 2: He said when he was talking about the apology, he said,

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Speaker 2: I can thank Winston Peters for the gold card. So

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Speaker 2: there was a bit of politics in there, and he

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Speaker 2: said he was a bit more circumspect when it came

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Speaker 2: to the judge. He said he was born under the moon,

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Speaker 2: so maybe he was howling at it, which was one

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Speaker 2: way of sort of talking around it. But it was

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Speaker 2: a contrite Jones who says he's now been schooled by

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Speaker 2: due to the Collins, and he accepts it.

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Speaker 4: I can't walk it back.

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Speaker 3: I said it.

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Speaker 4: I think what the Attorney General reminded me, because I'm

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Speaker 4: a fairly voluble character. Is there Everything that's recorded said

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Speaker 4: by a minister in formal meetings is a reflection on

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Speaker 4: cableet and she wants to see an improvement.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll see, we'll see Jonesy being much more low

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Speaker 2: key in the house not and then his boss Winston Peters,

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Speaker 2: though he was a little less contritor might say, even

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Speaker 2: though he agreed Collins had to have a word with

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Speaker 2: his voluble minister.

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Speaker 3: Judith is right. But then Shane, he was talking about

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Speaker 3: someone's past when they were young, when they belonged to

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Speaker 3: a communist organization. The question is is that a private

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Speaker 3: to a line against someone who at a certain age

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Speaker 3: is more mature and whether that is an answerable question

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Speaker 3: or not, it should not have been said, and Trade

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Speaker 3: had decide with dutifulness Matters I said the same. I

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Speaker 3: know how frustrating it is, but frankly, the separation between

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Speaker 3: the courts and the politics is a critical part to

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Speaker 3: us democracy.

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Speaker 2: It is the key to way democracy. Separation between the

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Speaker 2: judiciary and it's true and the Parliament.

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Speaker 1: Now, the Greens are pretty upset with Simon about what

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Speaker 1: he said about the speed bumps right because he said

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Speaker 1: that he was defunding speed Bumps Hallelujah to the tune

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Speaker 1: of twelve million bucks, based on the fact that he

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Speaker 1: got rid of twenty four and they cost five hundred

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Speaker 1: thout each exactly, and that's a little that's a little

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Speaker 1: sneaky for a.

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Speaker 2: Bit, it's stretching.

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Speaker 1: There are two that costs that much, but the rest

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Speaker 1: of them are considerably cheaper.

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Speaker 2: There was a project in Auckland's Grave then that costs

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Speaker 2: four hundred and ninety thousand dollars for essentially a speed bump,

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Speaker 2: but it was traffic management.

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Speaker 1: That it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, that's not it.

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Speaker 2: Costs well, yes it does, but it's not the building

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Speaker 2: of the actual bump itself. It was co funded though

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Speaker 2: by Auckland Transport, which is the rate power of Auckland

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Speaker 2: and the Transport Agency. The other bumps that have been

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Speaker 2: put in place, they are estimated to cost around nineteen

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Speaker 2: to thirty one thousand dollars each. Now the Transport Agency

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Speaker 2: they provided a list of thirty two speed bumps that

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Speaker 2: had been canceled under this government, but they didn't say

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Speaker 2: what the cost was. Unfortunately, a spokesman of Brown they

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Speaker 2: couldn't give any evidence of the savings, but they stood

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Speaker 2: by the minister's statement. Honestly, I think stretching a point

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Speaker 2: that Simeon can do no role.

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Speaker 1: Because he is Goldenden.

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Speaker 2: I think he was described this morning by one of

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Speaker 2: my costcumes.

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Speaker 1: That was me because because I mentioned it on als

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Speaker 1: A Caucuss, somebody had told me that's caucus is nick name.

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Good is that? Hey?

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Barry, I appreciated this. Barry so Per, Senior

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Speaker 1: political correspondent.

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