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Speaker 2: Thanks mate, Wow, I wasn't expecting that.

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Speaker 3: Actually, what were you expecting? Man?

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Speaker 4: Well, no, I just because usually Kezy facts around a bit.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and see as can you try talking to it?

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Speaker 3: Three one two three?

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Speaker 2: What's going on with it? And then it was like

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Speaker 2: we were just into it.

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Speaker 3: There was only one Ethan geffoy I was.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't mentally prepared.

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Speaker 5: Keyzy, well, just for the listeners benefit.

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Speaker 6: We're in the ACC studio right now, which is a

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Speaker 6: shambles every time.

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Speaker 3: You use it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it just glitches out and things don't work properly

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Speaker 6: in the headphones at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So I just did a whole podcast for like fifty minutes,

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Speaker 6: wiggling the little thing that to make them work.

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Speaker 4: Wiggily, nothing like that. That just does my head and

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Speaker 4: that sort of shit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, man, And I can barely see you, Jason.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't see you at all, and I can

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Speaker 4: barely hear myself. But hey, well, soldier on with soldier.

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Speaker 3: On, Ah, fuck, good stuff. How's your shooting last night?

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you all about it in the show.

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Speaker 3: It was what were you shooting?

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Speaker 2: It's keasy, it's.

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Speaker 3: Good question, geezy.

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Speaker 4: Let me just put it this way. It's just getting

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Speaker 4: to the point where I'm going, Okay, I need to

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Speaker 4: totally reevaluate my life because this is ridiculous what's going

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Speaker 4: on at the moment, right, just ridiculous event after event

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Speaker 4: that's just turning into a farce. On the good side,

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Speaker 4: it's material. On the bad side, it's really fucking me

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Speaker 4: off now, right.

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Speaker 5: So like their batch situation for example, Yes.

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Speaker 2: Like the canceled flight situation for example.

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Speaker 3: A couple of feely minor inconveniences.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, the batch was not minor. That was a

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Speaker 2: fucking pain in.

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Speaker 7: The ass, not TOAKYSI and in pugs. And they didn't

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Speaker 7: mind it as much, not as much as you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that that's because they didn't know what they were

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Speaker 4: missing out on.

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Speaker 3: Well they did.

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Speaker 5: We were hosting, though, there's extra stress though, more.

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Speaker 3: Streus to you. If you feel like you fucked it up.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well I didn't though I know, but I guess

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Speaker 7: you're conscious of the fact that no one believes that.

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Speaker 4: You know, but I'm also conscious of the fact of,

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Speaker 4: you know, not bleazing on about it either. But but

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Speaker 4: it is funny. What happened last night was funny. It

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Speaker 4: was so stupid that it was just like, oh, for

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Speaker 4: fuck's sake. And then I reached the point last night

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Speaker 4: when I was just sitting on the couch at one

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Speaker 4: thirty in the morning, going the fuck is going on?

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Speaker 2: This is just ridiculous?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, stupid ship, Can you give up acting? The acting

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Speaker 7: was fine, Yeah, I know, but it's not about the acting.

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Speaker 5: It sounds like the shagging around involved is like.

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Speaker 2: But even that is part and parcel of acting.

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Speaker 3: But it is. But it doesn't mean you like it.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: But you know, like we were talking about back in

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Speaker 4: the day, you just take it all on the chin

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Speaker 4: and ship. As you get older and you're grumpy here

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you also.

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Speaker 4: Don't want to be a prima donna either. You just

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Speaker 4: got to suck it up and go.

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Speaker 3: But then anyone knows you're in a horror of a

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Speaker 3: mood on seat.

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Speaker 2: It was funny.

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Speaker 4: Actually, Tracy, the actor I was working with, yes, she

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Speaker 4: was an hysterics because she said, it's great.

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Speaker 2: I can just hear you going. You know, you're sitting

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Speaker 5: That is the soundtrack to my life at the mot It's.

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Speaker 2: A sound track to my life too. It's just ah,

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Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, well, how about first world problems starting today?

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Speaker 5: We stop everything from being a shambles.

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Speaker 2: I've been starting now, you know.

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Speaker 4: It's it's just this week's been an unfortunate series of events.

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Speaker 5: It has, it's been bizarre, but.

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Speaker 4: Also this last year and a half's been an absolute

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Speaker 6: Up the last three weeks for me though, And I mean,

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Speaker 6: for example, Mike, you're getting your sickness back again, which

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Speaker 6: trip to christ Church which was canceled because my nan

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Speaker 6: christ Church canceled it again because of the funeral. And

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Speaker 6: then the next weekend your batch canceled that because you

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Speaker 6: stuffed up the booking.

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Speaker 5: And and then.

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Speaker 2: Nelson can be very clear, stuff up the book You didn't.

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Speaker 6: That's my fury, yes, But like I feel like a

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Speaker 3: And you forgot to take your hoodie and everything you got.

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Speaker 5: The mogis the I think it's yeah, it is, well,

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Speaker 5: it does it does no, because I'm trying to think.

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Speaker 4: And I said, because I had a I went to

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Speaker 4: counseling today and I said to the woman who they

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Speaker 4: do my counseling with, I said, the fellows are joking

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Speaker 4: now that I'm cursed, and I'm beginning to believe I am.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean? She said, you're not cursed.

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Speaker 3: Well, to be cursed with things that are minor inconvenience

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Speaker 4: But you will put it at all as minor inconveniences.

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Speaker 2: But cumulatively, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: But you're talking about like workers are pain in the ass.

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Speaker 7: You had a flight canceled, a batch's double booked those

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about three days in a row, like four

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Speaker 7: But I mean, yeah, I don't know, that's not bigger.

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Speaker 7: You've got more important precid issues in your life than

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But those things.

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Speaker 3: Seem to be the things that break the camel's back.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yes, ah, how can we how can we minimize Okay,

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Speaker 6: so when we when we lock on a date for

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Speaker 2: I'm not even going to go there right now.

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Speaker 6: We're going to call your father in law two weeks

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Speaker 6: out and then a week out.

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Speaker 7: Know, CAZy, this isn't for you to organize exactly the

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Speaker 7: day you mind your business.

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Speaker 5: But I just want to help many. I know, I

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Speaker 3: You're stick in your bea kond No I care about

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Speaker 3: This is for Jason.

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Speaker 5: This is.

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Speaker 7: Is only It's only been once and twenty years to

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Speaker 7: say exactly, I cannot wait keasy for you to have

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Speaker 7: you're going to try and solve every single one of

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Speaker 7: your kids problems, every single every single one, and that

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Speaker 7: kid is going to be fucking use as a resuld

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Speaker 7: of that because they need to work everything out for themselves.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 7: That's the hardest thing is you're just going to go

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Speaker 7: You work out, mate, you working out. It is going

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Speaker 7: human being, as will be letting them work out for

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Speaker 7: themselves because you are unable to stay out to people's business.

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Speaker 5: Do you know why?

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Speaker 3: Do you know?

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Speaker 6: Actually my wife refuses to let me fix anything. It's

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Speaker 6: the most infuriating fucking thing in my entire life is

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Speaker 6: the fact that anytime I suggest anything that could make

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Speaker 6: Then exactly exactly and then doesn't let me do it would.

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Speaker 7: Drive me up the wall. Having somebody constantly thinking they

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Speaker 6: Well, in these cases, I feel like, yeah, you can

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Speaker 6: you minimize, yes, minimize potential stress.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's just how my brain works.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know.

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Speaker 7: But what I'm saying is, when you have a kid, yeah,

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Speaker 7: that is not going to give you great returns on

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Speaker 7: but you can't. You're not allowed to because it just

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Speaker 6: See that's like the other day, I went for a

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Speaker 6: do you help her do it? He's like, to be honest, no,

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Speaker 6: if she's really struggling and getting upset, I will. Otherwise

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Speaker 6: absolutely not. You just let her figure it out. And

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Speaker 5: It's gonna be so good.

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Speaker 2: That's where you're going.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I don't want you going down these stupid paths,

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Speaker 4: but at the same time, I went down those stupid paths,

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Speaker 4: so I can't. I'm not going to sit here and

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Speaker 2: And but you've also going to realize too.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the difference between when we were teenagers and

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Speaker 4: different world, social.

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Speaker 2: Media and all that shit. It is a nightmare.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, although I do think my kids will be different though, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Because it's different. Yeah, with the right advice.

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Speaker 4: But absolutely there's got to be an element of you've

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Speaker 4: got only that is the hardest thing is letting your

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Speaker 4: but you don't even say that, but I'm going to

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Speaker 4: let you make it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean they at a younger age. It's more just

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Speaker 7: it's not so mental and emotion No. No, that's right

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Speaker 7: and all of it. Because I've got a younger sister.

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Speaker 7: She's sixteen years younger than me, so it's quite a

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Speaker 7: big difference. Yes, and so when she was coming up

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Speaker 3: They're going through. Yeah you can't do that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, which canna be quite.

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Speaker 5: So what you want to have a tax situation is

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Speaker 6: I'm just joking, of course, but I only I only

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Speaker 5: Know he's stressed. But you want to help everybody like

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Speaker 7: No, no, I mean, but I mean, every opportunity there

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Speaker 7: You love, you love jumping in that, which is not

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Speaker 7: It's not a bad thing at all, not a bad

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I like it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's going to be really hard when you think

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Speaker 2: A lot of the time you don't want advice. Oh no,

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Speaker 2: it's the least moment. It's the least when you when

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Speaker 4: Is when people fucking go oh, this is what you

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Speaker 7: About and in fact that that's usually uh, that's a

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Speaker 7: I don't want you to solve it. I just want

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Speaker 5: No, I've changed. I used to be like that.

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Speaker 3: You get beaten up by a day.

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Speaker 5: No, I'm happy for them to complain for a while.

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Speaker 3: But I do also say is this are we just

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Speaker 4: Know, I don't really complain to my wife, but I

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Speaker 4: I just want to be in a fucking bad mood

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Speaker 7: Glasses has learned that from raising four daughters, and that

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Speaker 7: is when your kids and her emergers, let them work

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Speaker 2: And leave it alone.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you just go quiet. Do you bring her real

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Speaker 6: Yes, my wife had this funny thing last night to

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Speaker 6: she doesn't want to talk to me or be near me,

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Speaker 6: I'm angry at you, and that helps.

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Speaker 4: So it's annoying, it's fascinating, really fascinating stuff.

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Speaker 5: Hey, anyway, listen to the hud Acky Big Show for

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Speaker 2: Don't.

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Speaker 5: We'll solve all your problems.

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Speaker 3: Sorted out enough problems of her own