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Speaker 1: More details run the ongoing response from the state to

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Speaker 1: the sexual abuse survivors and the Royal Commission into their treatment.

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Speaker 1: Now the government will reimburse legal fees, was yesterday's announcement.

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Speaker 1: Ninety five survivors cut a deal back in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and one with the Crown, but the law firm acting

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Speaker 1: for the group at the time clip the ticket, so

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Speaker 1: on average each survivor lost out around twenty seven thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 1: Jim Goodwin is an abuse survivor who was on the

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Speaker 1: Royal Commissioned Survivor Advisory Group and is with us. Jim,

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Speaker 1: very good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: So far, from my estimations, we've got a promise, we're

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Speaker 1: going to do something about it, we've got some good will,

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Speaker 1: and we've got the first of what presumably is non

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Speaker 1: going series of deliveries. Are you happy so far?

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Speaker 2: Ah? I don't think the government should be too surprised

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Speaker 2: if the Lake Alie survivors aren't jumping up and down

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Speaker 2: with delight. I mean they've had to struggle to get

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Speaker 2: things that's sort of been given to them. Yeah, But I.

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Speaker 1: Think that that's the good will part of it, doesn't

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Speaker 1: I mean, at least this government has gone Yep, we've

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Speaker 1: got to do something, and here is our something.

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Speaker 2: It's progress, it's a start, it's progress. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you worry though, that we'll open the door inevitably,

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Speaker 1: because I was thinking about this yesterday when I was

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Speaker 1: listening to Erica Stanford. No matter what they do, someone's

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Speaker 1: going to be unhappy, aren't they. It's just one of

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Speaker 1: these issues.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think you're right in part. Yes, yes, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Survivors a pretty cynical lot, and the Lake Alice group

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Speaker 2: are very good example of that. I mean, they've been

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Speaker 2: mucked around for decades. They've had to battle for things

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Speaker 2: that sort have been given to them as of right.

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Speaker 1: The inflation argument that we seem to have yesterday, if

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Speaker 1: you're covering a bill, what were they arguing? In other words,

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Speaker 1: you missed out and if you'd got the money at

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Speaker 1: the time, ad the inflation, you'd have something more substantive. Now,

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Speaker 1: the Stanford argument that all the governments have done it

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Speaker 1: without inflation. Does that ring true or hold water for

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Speaker 1: you or not?

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Speaker 2: Oh? I think that's a bit of a side issue. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's the main issue. It's great that

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Speaker 2: the government as steeping up and reimbursing legal costs. It

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Speaker 2: would be nice if they could adjust for inflation, but

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Speaker 2: it's a bit of a side issue.

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Speaker 1: Really, what weight do you place on the apology which

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Speaker 1: is coming in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Quite a lot, quite a lot of weight. I hope

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Speaker 2: it's very heartfelt, but I hope it's also followed up

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Speaker 2: with action.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's ope it's Jim appreciate it, Jim Goodwin. I

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Speaker 1: was looking at Erica Stanford yesterday, and I gave you

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Speaker 1: on the program yesterday the ongoing disaster that is the

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Speaker 1: immigration system in this country and the waiting times that

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Speaker 1: we've got to put up with, and even the head

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Speaker 1: of the Immigration Service was saying it's not good enough.

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Speaker 1: And I'm looking at Erica Stanford on this. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at Erica Stamford in immigration, and I'm looking at Erica

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Speaker 1: Stanford in education, all areas that are dire, and I'm

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