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Speaker 1: Get inside the game from every angle. It's Rugby Direct

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Speaker 1: with Elliott Smith, powered by News Talks EDB.

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Speaker 2: Welcome into Rugby Direct, power by Habit Heath, tackling all

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Speaker 2: your aches and pains from sport and work. There are

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Speaker 2: plenty of aches and pains if you're a Crusaders fan.

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Speaker 2: We will get to those in a moment. But first

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Speaker 2: and foremost, Liam Napier Elliot Smith with the podcast as always, Liam,

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Speaker 2: greetings to you.

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Speaker 3: Greeting's Elliott. Great to be here, isn't it. It's a fantastic,

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Speaker 3: beaming sunny day and the Canes are back and the

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Speaker 3: Crusaders are not.

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Speaker 2: The sun has not risen. I just want to clarify

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Speaker 2: that point. We'll get to that in the moment. First,

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Speaker 2: some news that's come out an hour or two before

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Speaker 2: we've recorded this podcast, Big news when us you on

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Speaker 2: Rugby Perspective. Liam Damien McKenzie resigns through until twenty twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: The announcement landing this morning. This was a for me,

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Speaker 2: at least a wee bit of a surprise I knew

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Speaker 2: he's a contract after this season, questions about whether he's

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Speaker 2: going to stay. He's already been to Japan on playing

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Speaker 2: sabbaticals before, but he's extended and he's extended long term

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Speaker 2: another four years with New Zealand Rugby. On the verge

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Speaker 2: of turning thirty and thinking about three weeks or thereabouts,

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Speaker 2: it's a hold for New Zealand Rugby. What a he

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Speaker 2: mak of the deal?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Great piece of business, isn't it. We spoke to

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Speaker 3: Razor a few weeks back and put it to him

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Speaker 3: about the the fact that he was off contract and

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Speaker 3: they were clearly desperate to keep him, and like you,

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Speaker 3: I am surprised at the length of the deal. I

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Speaker 3: thought a bit of uncertainty around s Richem m Wonga

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Speaker 3: coming home where he sits in the pecking order. Last year,

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Speaker 3: had the first seven Tests and was sort of dropped

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Speaker 3: victory and played very well on that. I thought, if

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Speaker 3: he does resign, maybe through to the World Cup and

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Speaker 3: then look to reassess. But the fact that his long

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Speaker 3: term as a major win for Hiseana Rugby, I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: be surprised if there is another sabbatical clause within that contract.

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Speaker 3: Maybe claigt mcwellon looks to get him up to Munster

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Speaker 3: for a weastern or back to Japan, but to lock

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Speaker 3: in someone of McKenzie's talents, not just for the All

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Speaker 3: Blacks but the Chiefs is a huge one and he

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Speaker 3: is only going to get better at this stage of

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Speaker 3: his career, starting to mature. Such a versatile, brilliant player.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, great to seem stick around.

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Speaker 2: Well, I did hear from one of our researchers here

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Speaker 2: at Rugby, director Towers before we came into Rugby Studio

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight sabbatical for Damien McKenzie, So that's been

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Speaker 2: included there. But what it means is that he'll be

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Speaker 2: in New Zealand rugby with the Chiefs twenty six twenty

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Speaker 2: seven and building to that World Cup. And I think

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Speaker 2: it's a sign from him that he wants that ting Jers,

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Speaker 2: he wants to be part of the All Black squad

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Speaker 2: and perhaps last year had a little bit of a wobble,

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Speaker 2: but we still wouldn't come back to them, and really

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Speaker 2: I thought have an excellent interview tour and what I

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Speaker 2: think it shows is that he's you know, he wouldn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really put a stake in the ground, has an

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Speaker 3: and look, he's always been a talents from his time

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Speaker 3: benchmark that you want to see out of Damon McKenzie.

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Speaker 3: And it is an interesting scenario about how that plays out,

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Speaker 3: I saw an interview Richie Wongo over the weekend with

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Speaker 3: So they're going to have Boden Barrett, Damian McKenzie Richie

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Speaker 3: But great to have that depth, isn't it because I

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Speaker 3: think increasingly that ten jersey is so influential in terms

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Speaker 3: So yeah, a great one to keep him around.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Richi and Wanger. That was my next question

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Speaker 2: You know, suggestions where it he's going to come back

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how do you fit them on all in the

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Speaker 3: The other options there, one of them are playing ten,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's going to be fascinating to see how that

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Speaker 3: I think it is also a reflection of McKenzie's holistic life.

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Speaker 3: He's pretty happy away from the field, reasonably new partner,

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Speaker 2: Indeed, looking forward to seeing how that unfolds the next week.

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Speaker 2: While let's get into Super Rugby Round seven and Saturday

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Speaker 2: nights more ONEA Pacifica forty five the Crusaders twenty nine.

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Speaker 2: This was a very good performance from one of Pacifica.

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Speaker 2: I've been paying the drum that if they play for

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Speaker 2: While they strung it together on Saturday night in christ Church,

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Speaker 2: he has been an absolute game changer since Mouana gave

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Speaker 3: And you mentioned that consistency because we've seen not incremental improvements,

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Speaker 3: Winer's performance has actually had real success against the Crusader's

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Speaker 3: and that's been a strength of the Crusaders. On reflection,

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Speaker 3: but wine I fully deserved that victory. It's the biggest

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, I thought it was an excellent performance from

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Speaker 2: and every time it felt like Crusaders were just inching

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Speaker 2: but this is the kind of win that makes teams

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the kind of performance that solidifies a lot

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Speaker 3: to galvanize a team. They've had Artie Severe come along

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Speaker 3: still there. Yeah, so you know, it's a very much

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Speaker 3: home to go to christ Church is a difficult place

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Speaker 3: to win. So it could be the making of Moana.

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Speaker 3: And the Blues still have to play them.

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Speaker 2: Twice they do, and once at North Harbor, which is

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Speaker 2: becoming a home ground that their supporters are flopping to.

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Speaker 2: So that's going to be fascinating. Yeah, probably slightly regretting

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Speaker 2: the Type five piece of the Herald last week suggesting

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Speaker 2: that I might have been wrong to doubt Rob Penny.

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Speaker 2: Obviously it's only one week, but those signs of the

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Speaker 3: They did, And it's funny how one result can change

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Speaker 3: the complexion of a season, because the Crusaders now have

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Speaker 3: to go to Fiji where the zero and two the

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Speaker 3: toughest road trip in Super rugby, and if they drop

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Speaker 3: that potentially then you're you know, yeah, the whole complexion

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Speaker 2: Hurricanes, I think a week after that back in christ

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Speaker 2: a tough couple of weeks coming up for the Krusian is.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Friday Night Brumby's and Highlanders Brumby thirty four,

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Speaker 2: Highlanders twenty seven. The Rumby's just did a tad too good,

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Speaker 2: I debated, I set topic one stadiums in Auckland Eden

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Speaker 2: the two point one plan is the plane going forward

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Speaker 3: Up to the All Blacks, well, it's deflating. The All

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Speaker 2: but I think they could and if they steak in

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00:22:53,493 --> 00:22:56,213
Speaker 2: to top six, they're going to be a dangerous team.

431
00:22:57,173 --> 00:22:57,373
Speaker 3: Yeah.

432
00:22:57,533 --> 00:23:00,373
Speaker 2: I would say Mowana are more dangerous than Highlanders coming

433
00:23:00,413 --> 00:23:01,213
Speaker 2: down the stretch.

434
00:23:00,973 --> 00:23:03,373
Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, I said, said the Landers are gone, so okay,

435
00:23:03,413 --> 00:23:06,093
Speaker 3: there you go. I've gone one, two, three, four, five

436
00:23:06,213 --> 00:23:07,133
Speaker 3: teams cannot win the.

437
00:23:07,133 --> 00:23:10,413
Speaker 2: Time absolute you've taken the act there. I was gonna

438
00:23:10,413 --> 00:23:12,093
Speaker 2: say the drawer because they kind of win, can't went

439
00:23:12,093 --> 00:23:14,173
Speaker 2: away from home. They're the only team I've prepared to

440
00:23:14,213 --> 00:23:15,613
Speaker 2: rule out of the stage. So I'm being a bit

441
00:23:15,653 --> 00:23:18,373
Speaker 2: more conservative than you are. You've got gang ho and

442
00:23:18,493 --> 00:23:21,773
Speaker 2: said that five of eleven teams at six weeks and

443
00:23:21,933 --> 00:23:24,893
Speaker 2: cannot win. Ye stand by that bold statement. All right,

444
00:23:24,933 --> 00:23:27,173
Speaker 2: we'll see how that goes. Speaking of seeing how that goes?

445
00:23:27,213 --> 00:23:29,613
Speaker 2: Topic three, how's your tip for the final? And the

446
00:23:29,653 --> 00:23:31,733
Speaker 2: first podcast of the season? Looking, can you remember how

447
00:23:31,733 --> 00:23:34,333
Speaker 2: you picked up at the Blues and Wartars to make

448
00:23:34,373 --> 00:23:36,773
Speaker 2: the final? You have to refresh my moment either. I

449
00:23:36,853 --> 00:23:37,973
Speaker 2: was hoping you might come to the party.

450
00:23:38,053 --> 00:23:39,013
Speaker 3: I think it's the chieftain.

451
00:23:39,093 --> 00:23:41,053
Speaker 2: You did say the Chiefs and maybe the Blues the Chiefs.

452
00:23:41,173 --> 00:23:42,453
Speaker 3: I don't know what I say. I'm just saying the

453
00:23:42,533 --> 00:23:44,013
Speaker 3: Chiefs because they're the favorites.

454
00:23:44,053 --> 00:23:46,293
Speaker 2: Now someone can check the tape for us. We're you

455
00:23:46,333 --> 00:23:47,893
Speaker 2: also are looking pretty good if that was the tip

456
00:23:48,013 --> 00:23:50,573
Speaker 2: the Boys Wartars five v. Ten At this point in

457
00:23:50,613 --> 00:23:53,493
Speaker 2: the season, I suspect that may not be the final

458
00:23:53,533 --> 00:23:55,013
Speaker 2: when all said and done in June.

459
00:23:55,213 --> 00:23:58,213
Speaker 3: No, look, I think the point is it's still open,

460
00:23:58,293 --> 00:24:04,773
Speaker 3: isn't it. And come the playoffs it could be upset Central. Yeah,

461
00:24:04,893 --> 00:24:08,973
Speaker 3: and that's a lucky loser. Could be very valid because

462
00:24:10,093 --> 00:24:13,653
Speaker 3: as Mowana has shown at the weekends and other results

463
00:24:13,733 --> 00:24:17,653
Speaker 3: throughout the season, this competition is far more competitive than

464
00:24:17,773 --> 00:24:20,613
Speaker 3: any in recent memory, and so when it does come

465
00:24:20,693 --> 00:24:23,293
Speaker 3: down to the top six playoff, it is going to

466
00:24:23,333 --> 00:24:24,613
Speaker 3: be an engrossing watch.

467
00:24:24,893 --> 00:24:27,933
Speaker 2: Certainly is topic four in the final four. The Orpikie

468
00:24:27,933 --> 00:24:30,213
Speaker 2: Final is still a week or so away. Fine a

469
00:24:30,293 --> 00:24:32,613
Speaker 2: round coming up this weekend. The Blues on top by

470
00:24:32,733 --> 00:24:36,373
Speaker 2: one point from Mutter two. The Blues play the Hurricanes

471
00:24:36,413 --> 00:24:38,533
Speaker 2: poward this week, so should win that final should be

472
00:24:38,533 --> 00:24:40,133
Speaker 2: at eden Park or it should be in Auckland, I

473
00:24:40,173 --> 00:24:41,773
Speaker 2: should say. I don't think they're confirmed, but it's from

474
00:24:41,813 --> 00:24:44,653
Speaker 2: the Eden Park. Interestingly, though, this was noted last week

475
00:24:44,733 --> 00:24:48,573
Speaker 2: by someone here at rapid Rick Towers that the Orpicki

476
00:24:48,653 --> 00:24:50,973
Speaker 2: Final has been moved to primetime, which they did flag

477
00:24:51,013 --> 00:24:53,013
Speaker 2: I think before the start of the season. But now

478
00:24:53,053 --> 00:24:55,293
Speaker 2: it's coming into focus a little bit more. It puts

479
00:24:55,413 --> 00:25:00,893
Speaker 2: the match and focus seven oh five next weekend, same

480
00:25:00,973 --> 00:25:03,493
Speaker 2: time as the Highlanders played the Druer. What are they

481
00:25:03,613 --> 00:25:04,013
Speaker 2: doing here?

482
00:25:05,213 --> 00:25:09,573
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not too sure about the common sense around that,

483
00:25:10,653 --> 00:25:14,253
Speaker 3: ol Packy correct me if I'm wrong. But has been

484
00:25:14,293 --> 00:25:18,733
Speaker 3: played at the two pm slot every weekend? Why change that?

485
00:25:20,253 --> 00:25:23,693
Speaker 3: Maybe the reasoning is around club rugby and wanted to

486
00:25:23,733 --> 00:25:26,133
Speaker 3: get those people along, and I can understand that. But

487
00:25:26,333 --> 00:25:31,573
Speaker 3: from an attendance viewership perspective, don't you want to maximize

488
00:25:31,653 --> 00:25:36,893
Speaker 3: the eyeballs and have some consistency and your competition. If

489
00:25:36,933 --> 00:25:40,093
Speaker 3: it's at seven pm, how many people are they going

490
00:25:40,173 --> 00:25:41,053
Speaker 3: to get to even park?

491
00:25:41,613 --> 00:25:43,213
Speaker 2: That's the question. How many people are going to watch

492
00:25:43,213 --> 00:25:45,533
Speaker 2: it versus the Highland is drawer? Like, I know they're

493
00:25:45,573 --> 00:25:47,813
Speaker 2: targeting a slightly different audience in terms of that or

494
00:25:47,813 --> 00:25:50,893
Speaker 2: picky and that's great, but you also want the casual

495
00:25:50,973 --> 00:25:53,213
Speaker 2: rugby fan that's more likely to probably go with the

496
00:25:53,293 --> 00:25:56,893
Speaker 2: Highlanders drawer. If you can't play on the Saturday cause

497
00:25:56,893 --> 00:25:59,093
Speaker 2: a club rugby, why not play on the Sunday afternoon

498
00:25:59,133 --> 00:26:02,133
Speaker 2: two five. I know there's contracting commitments of various things,

499
00:26:02,173 --> 00:26:04,693
Speaker 2: but surely once off Sunday afternoon. I know that the

500
00:26:04,813 --> 00:26:07,613
Speaker 2: women's crossover final with Australia on the Thursday night. It

501
00:26:07,653 --> 00:26:11,213
Speaker 2: would be a short time around. But I'm all for

502
00:26:12,053 --> 00:26:14,773
Speaker 2: the promotion of women's rugby and we should be building

503
00:26:14,813 --> 00:26:18,213
Speaker 2: that up. But this seems like a misfire from my

504
00:26:18,333 --> 00:26:21,493
Speaker 2: point of view, and I'm not sure whether it's going

505
00:26:21,573 --> 00:26:24,053
Speaker 2: to pay dividends. And look, the contrary thing is if

506
00:26:24,053 --> 00:26:25,613
Speaker 2: they do play at Eden Park and there's not many

507
00:26:25,613 --> 00:26:28,013
Speaker 2: people there, then that's going to be a bad look.

508
00:26:28,533 --> 00:26:31,773
Speaker 3: It's a pretty soulless place Eden Park with not many people.

509
00:26:31,893 --> 00:26:33,733
Speaker 3: You get twenty thousand there and it's still a half

510
00:26:33,973 --> 00:26:36,733
Speaker 3: bes stadium. So yeah, I would have had it at

511
00:26:36,733 --> 00:26:38,493
Speaker 3: two pm. The only thing I can think of is

512
00:26:38,493 --> 00:26:41,293
Speaker 3: around club rugby and wanting to get people along, But

513
00:26:41,733 --> 00:26:45,413
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's a significant enough factor to

514
00:26:45,573 --> 00:26:49,213
Speaker 3: change that time slot. And yeah, the Hearlanded Dura is

515
00:26:49,293 --> 00:26:54,053
Speaker 3: not a headline fixtion necessarily, but like you say, you

516
00:26:54,133 --> 00:26:58,253
Speaker 3: want to maximize your casual fan maybe those who haven't

517
00:26:58,293 --> 00:27:00,093
Speaker 3: tuned into the whole year and want to get along

518
00:27:00,333 --> 00:27:03,253
Speaker 3: and sample the final. So I think that two pm

519
00:27:03,293 --> 00:27:04,093
Speaker 3: slot would have been better.

520
00:27:04,253 --> 00:27:06,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely right, let's get into tipping. Good weekend for you,

521
00:27:07,053 --> 00:27:08,853
Speaker 2: Liam three or four for you. The only one you

522
00:27:08,933 --> 00:27:10,213
Speaker 2: missed was the Crusaders.

523
00:27:10,973 --> 00:27:12,453
Speaker 3: Yes, should have stuck in my heart.

524
00:27:13,933 --> 00:27:16,453
Speaker 2: So you got three or four. I missed the Crusaders

525
00:27:16,493 --> 00:27:18,093
Speaker 2: and the Force. I picked them to bit the Reds,

526
00:27:18,133 --> 00:27:20,693
Speaker 2: which they did not. So I lead overall, but you've

527
00:27:20,733 --> 00:27:23,693
Speaker 2: closed the gap. Twenty one eighteen. Let's get into this

528
00:27:23,813 --> 00:27:26,053
Speaker 2: week top of the table as we've touched on Chiefs

529
00:27:26,093 --> 00:27:27,213
Speaker 2: Reads Friday night, seven.

530
00:27:27,053 --> 00:27:32,573
Speaker 3: O five Chiefs. Yeah, I think it should be close

531
00:27:32,613 --> 00:27:33,173
Speaker 3: and competitive.

532
00:27:33,333 --> 00:27:34,733
Speaker 2: I think it should be, but I still beat to

533
00:27:34,733 --> 00:27:36,093
Speaker 2: the Chiefs at home. I think they'll be good enough

534
00:27:36,133 --> 00:27:38,893
Speaker 2: to win that game. The quad hitter on Saturday two

535
00:27:39,173 --> 00:27:41,693
Speaker 2: five more onea Pacific against the war Tis.

536
00:27:41,773 --> 00:27:48,653
Speaker 3: Yees Sunday, sorry, Saturday afternoon hopefully Balmie, North Harbor, north

537
00:27:48,733 --> 00:27:52,093
Speaker 3: Shore as it always is. You'd expect a good turnout

538
00:27:52,093 --> 00:27:53,973
Speaker 3: as well, wouldn't you after that performance and crush yet.

539
00:27:54,053 --> 00:27:55,413
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna tap mowana there.

540
00:27:55,493 --> 00:27:57,093
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna tap one as well. I think they'll

541
00:27:57,093 --> 00:28:01,493
Speaker 2: beat the Warrators the Drawer Crusaders four thirty five in Fiji.

542
00:28:02,293 --> 00:28:05,653
Speaker 2: How did the Crusaders end up playing in Fiji about

543
00:28:05,693 --> 00:28:09,133
Speaker 2: three years in a row and keep losing? What's going

544
00:28:09,173 --> 00:28:10,093
Speaker 2: on with a draw here.

545
00:28:10,813 --> 00:28:15,413
Speaker 3: It seems fair to me give you tip. I'm going

546
00:28:15,493 --> 00:28:16,053
Speaker 3: to go the Duror.

547
00:28:17,213 --> 00:28:19,613
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to go the Crusaders to win that one.

548
00:28:19,773 --> 00:28:21,853
Speaker 2: Look forward to you on report on the ground, reports

549
00:28:21,893 --> 00:28:22,373
Speaker 2: from over there.

550
00:28:22,493 --> 00:28:24,093
Speaker 3: So I'll be in my Duror strip.

551
00:28:24,573 --> 00:28:28,213
Speaker 2: Give you Crusaders much if you like. Blues Hurricanes seven

552
00:28:28,253 --> 00:28:32,653
Speaker 2: o five. Real crunch game for the Blues, but also

553
00:28:32,693 --> 00:28:34,453
Speaker 2: the Hurricanes in a way to back up what they

554
00:28:34,533 --> 00:28:36,613
Speaker 2: did against the war Retars. They're on the edge of

555
00:28:36,693 --> 00:28:38,773
Speaker 2: the Sex at the moment. The Blues are in tenth

556
00:28:39,213 --> 00:28:41,093
Speaker 2: big game for both of these two teams. The Blues

557
00:28:41,093 --> 00:28:43,613
Speaker 2: is supposed to get a few players back in this week.

558
00:28:43,853 --> 00:28:45,933
Speaker 2: Is that enough to get them past the Hurricanes. Yeah?

559
00:28:45,933 --> 00:28:47,613
Speaker 3: It meant to be some real big names coming back

560
00:28:47,613 --> 00:28:51,693
Speaker 3: for the Blues, Boden Barretts and the Cavalry up front

561
00:28:51,773 --> 00:28:55,853
Speaker 3: as well. But look, I will tip the Canes, but

562
00:28:56,053 --> 00:28:57,733
Speaker 3: it is a very, very fifty to fifty.

563
00:28:57,933 --> 00:28:59,933
Speaker 2: I'm going to the Blues to get home in that one.

564
00:28:59,973 --> 00:29:02,093
Speaker 2: And then the Force in Perth against the Highlander is

565
00:29:02,133 --> 00:29:05,013
Speaker 2: nine thirty five. Final game with a Saturday quad hitter.

566
00:29:05,973 --> 00:29:08,293
Speaker 3: Yeah tough, wasn't it. Look I'm going to go the Landers,

567
00:29:08,453 --> 00:29:10,933
Speaker 3: but again not with any great form of confidence.

568
00:29:11,413 --> 00:29:13,933
Speaker 2: I'm going to force to get the job done in Perth.

569
00:29:14,493 --> 00:29:17,333
Speaker 2: So a few different tips there along the way. Have

570
00:29:17,573 --> 00:29:21,813
Speaker 2: MVP Metal time quick recap of the top standings to

571
00:29:21,933 --> 00:29:24,413
Speaker 2: Monthya nawe out in front on eight. Then it's a

572
00:29:25,173 --> 00:29:28,493
Speaker 2: five way type for second Artie Savier Quintepie, Will Jordan

573
00:29:28,573 --> 00:29:32,453
Speaker 2: Duplaskrifi and Damien McKenzie and their miracle fire Lungey is

574
00:29:32,773 --> 00:29:36,733
Speaker 2: in seventh at the moment on four points your three,

575
00:29:36,813 --> 00:29:39,533
Speaker 2: two ones, I'll go first this week Artie Save gets

576
00:29:39,573 --> 00:29:43,133
Speaker 2: my three. Just the difference he's made to that team,

577
00:29:43,173 --> 00:29:47,733
Speaker 2: couple of tries on the weekend. Excellent player and I

578
00:29:47,813 --> 00:29:50,613
Speaker 2: think we're just seeing that the kind of leadership that

579
00:29:50,693 --> 00:29:53,413
Speaker 2: he brings to a team like more in a pacifica

580
00:29:53,533 --> 00:29:55,853
Speaker 2: both on or off the park, and he's been an

581
00:29:55,893 --> 00:29:56,493
Speaker 2: excellent form.

582
00:29:57,253 --> 00:29:59,893
Speaker 3: Just on that point in question. Do you think the

583
00:29:59,933 --> 00:30:01,973
Speaker 3: All Black's got it right with their with their captain

584
00:30:02,133 --> 00:30:06,093
Speaker 3: and I mean their performance is particularly in Super Rugby

585
00:30:06,133 --> 00:30:09,053
Speaker 3: currently speak to the holes a part, aren't it.

586
00:30:09,093 --> 00:30:09,253
Speaker 1: Yeah?

587
00:30:09,253 --> 00:30:10,893
Speaker 2: I don think Scott Barrett's having the greatest of Super

588
00:30:10,973 --> 00:30:15,613
Speaker 2: Rugby seasons. I think it's different coach captaining an All

589
00:30:15,653 --> 00:30:19,333
Speaker 2: Blacks team and the expectations around that and what you

590
00:30:19,413 --> 00:30:23,773
Speaker 2: want out of it. Scott Robertson knows new Scott Barrett well.

591
00:30:24,093 --> 00:30:30,093
Speaker 2: He installed him as captain. I think Artie Savier there

592
00:30:30,173 --> 00:30:32,013
Speaker 2: was some questions around his game management, I think from

593
00:30:32,013 --> 00:30:36,973
Speaker 2: a test perspective last year, and I think sometimes you

594
00:30:37,053 --> 00:30:39,013
Speaker 2: also just want Artie to be Artie and just play

595
00:30:39,053 --> 00:30:41,413
Speaker 2: the way he has, unencumbered by having to talk to referees,

596
00:30:41,493 --> 00:30:44,333
Speaker 2: having to do those sort of things. So I get

597
00:30:44,373 --> 00:30:46,933
Speaker 2: there was a groundswell for Artie Savier. I get his leader.

598
00:30:47,053 --> 00:30:49,853
Speaker 2: He's still the vice captain of this team. For me,

599
00:30:50,613 --> 00:30:53,373
Speaker 2: I think the decision was probably understandable you.

600
00:30:56,573 --> 00:30:58,293
Speaker 3: I'm on the fence. I think we do need to

601
00:30:58,293 --> 00:31:00,013
Speaker 3: see a lot more from Scott Barrett, both from a

602
00:31:00,093 --> 00:31:03,813
Speaker 3: performance perspective, and I think there was a major adjustment

603
00:31:03,853 --> 00:31:06,573
Speaker 3: for him in his first year as skipper, just the

604
00:31:07,613 --> 00:31:10,293
Speaker 3: load of of it all off the field or the

605
00:31:10,653 --> 00:31:13,533
Speaker 3: commitments there. I don't think it was a role that

606
00:31:13,653 --> 00:31:18,813
Speaker 3: he with the or Blacks necessarily wanted, and it'll be

607
00:31:18,893 --> 00:31:21,413
Speaker 3: one that he goes into, so I think Artie would

608
00:31:21,413 --> 00:31:25,373
Speaker 3: have been better suited initially maybe Scott bat grows into overtime.

609
00:31:25,613 --> 00:31:27,933
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting as well. I don't think Scott's the

610
00:31:28,493 --> 00:31:33,653
Speaker 2: most compelling interview subject in terms of the media. But

611
00:31:33,693 --> 00:31:35,093
Speaker 2: you see some of those behind the scenes videos the

612
00:31:35,133 --> 00:31:37,053
Speaker 2: All Blacks put out, and he's a lot more vocal there,

613
00:31:37,933 --> 00:31:40,093
Speaker 2: sort of the team huddles things, talking to the team,

614
00:31:40,253 --> 00:31:42,333
Speaker 2: rocking them up. Seen a few that have released there

615
00:31:42,333 --> 00:31:44,213
Speaker 2: and you go, okay, well that's you know, there's a

616
00:31:44,333 --> 00:31:46,253
Speaker 2: there's some leadership there, there's a bit there's a bit

617
00:31:46,293 --> 00:31:49,653
Speaker 2: of charisma about that. So maybe the public face and

618
00:31:49,693 --> 00:31:51,253
Speaker 2: the private face that are a wee bit different from

619
00:31:51,413 --> 00:31:52,533
Speaker 2: from Scott Barrett. I don't know.

620
00:31:53,013 --> 00:31:56,853
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does. He's not captaining the Crusaders. But something

621
00:31:56,853 --> 00:31:59,213
Speaker 3: has happened in the last year or two though, hasn't it,

622
00:31:59,253 --> 00:32:01,933
Speaker 3: Because he was the best lock or close to it

623
00:32:02,013 --> 00:32:04,853
Speaker 3: in the world, you know Ebanez Tebeth and a like

624
00:32:04,933 --> 00:32:09,573
Speaker 3: as well. But he has formed, has dipped significantly.

625
00:32:09,813 --> 00:32:13,413
Speaker 2: He looks a little tired, and I wonder whether I

626
00:32:13,493 --> 00:32:15,133
Speaker 2: con't try and I think whether he's got a sabbatical

627
00:32:15,173 --> 00:32:16,773
Speaker 2: in his contract or not. But even just a bit

628
00:32:16,773 --> 00:32:19,293
Speaker 2: of a rest. I mean, obviously he's a new All

629
00:32:19,293 --> 00:32:21,493
Speaker 2: bleaxet and he shouldn't be needing rest necessarily, But I

630
00:32:21,573 --> 00:32:23,573
Speaker 2: just wonder whether he's the kind of player that just

631
00:32:23,653 --> 00:32:25,333
Speaker 2: needs a bit of a prolonged break. Didn't play a

632
00:32:25,373 --> 00:32:27,733
Speaker 2: lot of rugby last year, but it was rehabs getting

633
00:32:27,773 --> 00:32:30,533
Speaker 2: back onto the park. In terms of super rugby, I

634
00:32:30,613 --> 00:32:32,853
Speaker 2: just wonder whether he just kind of needs a bit

635
00:32:32,893 --> 00:32:34,053
Speaker 2: of refresh. I don't know what it is.

636
00:32:34,693 --> 00:32:37,893
Speaker 3: Yeah, and simplify things. I think the easiest way to

637
00:32:38,013 --> 00:32:41,413
Speaker 3: lead is to lead from the front interactions and so yeah,

638
00:32:41,413 --> 00:32:43,453
Speaker 3: hopefully he can regain a bit of that as the

639
00:32:43,493 --> 00:32:44,213
Speaker 3: season progresses.

640
00:32:44,293 --> 00:32:47,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, Patrick Palagreen, he gets my two. Talked about him earlier,

641
00:32:47,653 --> 00:32:51,653
Speaker 2: but what a signing from White at PACIFICA un hero

642
00:32:51,813 --> 00:32:53,493
Speaker 2: of a player. I don't think anyone else would have

643
00:32:53,493 --> 00:32:55,573
Speaker 2: been chasing him. But they've plucked him out from playing

644
00:32:55,653 --> 00:32:59,613
Speaker 2: for Coventry and he is making every post a winner

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Speaker 2: and the noticeable ups to it uptech since they basically

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Speaker 2: traded him with Jackson Garden, baship has been really noticeable.

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Speaker 2: So he gets my two. Balance Sullivan from the Hurricanes

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Speaker 2: I thought it was very good on the week and

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Speaker 2: gets my one.

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Speaker 3: Nice. Yeah. Patrick Pellegrini gets my three. Just to the

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Speaker 3: variety to his game, the fifty twenty two's, the long balls,

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Speaker 3: the support play as you mentioned second division English club

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Speaker 3: Rugby two. He mentioned postmatch that he grew up modeling

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Speaker 3: his game idolizing James O'Connor, so to playing against his idols.

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Speaker 3: Great story, isn't it three for him? Two to Artie

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Speaker 3: Severe and one to Braden Yosse. Very impressed with his

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Speaker 3: performance at Blindside for the King.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he'd had a quiet short of season to this point,

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Speaker 2: a lot of wraps on the last year and probably

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Speaker 2: hadn't got going this season. But that was a big

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Speaker 2: performance of note, wasn't it. So he gets your one

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Speaker 2: the sweet we'll tear that up and bring you the

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Speaker 2: updated table next week. I can tell you Artie Savilla

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Speaker 2: has moved to the front of the list. That'll about

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Speaker 2: do us for rugby Dick for another week. I could

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Speaker 2: have see our friends at Habit Health tackling all your

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Speaker 2: aches and pains from sport and work. Big buller to you,

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Speaker 2: Liam and enjoy your time in Fiji. To Let's go

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Speaker 2: to you thanks to last and Bars English. We'll see

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Speaker 2: you next time on Rugby Direct for

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