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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tame podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at be Road Climb Past is.

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Speaker 2: Our man in the garden. He's here with us this morning.

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Speaker 3: Hey road hate Jack.

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Speaker 4: I should have been in the garden because I just

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Speaker 4: realized this was the Botannic Gardens Week.

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Speaker 3: It finishes tomorrow, and it totally went under my rade.

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Speaker 2: What do we do for a Botanic Gardens Week? We

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Speaker 2: just go to the Botanna Gardens.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but also you'll find that they have most of

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Speaker 4: the good Britennic gardens that are part of it, will

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Speaker 4: have very good trees and shrubs and plants to show,

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Speaker 4: which are really important things for New Zealand's flora if

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Speaker 4: you know fauna and flora. So that's that's you know,

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Speaker 4: with kaca beek and short spurge and things like that.

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Speaker 4: But also missiletes. I saw bagger. I missed the missiletoe.

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Speaker 2: Oh never mind, I'm sorry. Yeah, because the missiletes it's

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Speaker 2: quite rere ah.

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Speaker 3: It can be are not that ray of a chime, indeed,

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Speaker 3: but they are.

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Speaker 4: They are parasitic plants, and then itself is quite weird,

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Speaker 4: and then you are Yeah. But instead last week I

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Speaker 4: went and knocked around with kiwi.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and how good. So I had no idea about

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Speaker 2: this until you drew my attention to it. But they

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Speaker 2: have released Kiwi on Wayhiki Island.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we did that last Friday. Indeed, it was a

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Speaker 4: really big lot of enthusiastic restoration organizations and it was

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Speaker 4: started years and years decades ago by me old made

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Speaker 4: the late Sir Robert Finnick, he was a name in

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Speaker 4: conservation and his wife Lady Finnick, Lady Jenny, so so

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Speaker 4: he started it off and for me it was quite

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Speaker 4: actually emotional, because Rob and I were always talking about

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Speaker 4: doing this and here it was.

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Speaker 3: It was amazing. Ten birds were translocated from Panui Island,

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Speaker 3: which is.

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Speaker 4: Next door to Waitehiki yep, and they were literally that

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Speaker 4: was that was unbelievable. There were groups like the Key

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Speaker 4: we did trust that I'm bad off, but also Nati

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Speaker 4: Power and night thaik Tamaki, Wahiki Doc Phoonoi Island landowners,

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Speaker 4: volunteers and primary school kids of course, because I trained

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Speaker 4: those to be kiwi.

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Speaker 3: If you're like Kiwi helpers for the rest of the life.

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Speaker 2: What I mean, so where do they go on the island?

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Speaker 2: I mean presumably well down in the middle of enjoying.

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Speaker 3: And they will be there. They will be going there.

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Speaker 4: Really, I'm quite I'm quite convinced they well, yeah, they will.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: But in the meantime, those ten we were put on

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Speaker 4: the east coast, on the south where Robin Jenny used

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Speaker 4: to live actually, and that is a fabulously credative free

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Speaker 4: forest with really nice, nice vegetation and things like that.

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Speaker 4: But they do go to urban areas because we've got

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Speaker 4: them in all sorts of urban areas, places like Fatani

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Speaker 4: and fucking heads and things like that there you But anyway,

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Speaker 4: in an urban area, what do you think jack is

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Speaker 4: the most dangerous animal for a.

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Speaker 2: Kiwi in an urban area, I would say, ah, a

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Speaker 2: rat or as a dog. It'll be a dog.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely as a dog.

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Speaker 4: And there is something like sixteen hundred dogs on the island.

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Speaker 4: So what I did over the last couple of months

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Speaker 4: or actually last year, I talked to the kids about

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Speaker 4: them becoming my kiwi.

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Speaker 3: If you're like.

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Speaker 4: Helpers by looking after or actually explaining to people that

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Speaker 4: have their dog off a lead, you know, to say,

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Speaker 4: excuse me, do you know that they don't have wings?

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Speaker 4: And therefore they don't have a keel, and therefore all

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Speaker 4: their bones inside their body are not attached to each other.

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Speaker 4: That means that even a small dog would put a

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Speaker 4: leg on top of a kiwi, it can crusty inside

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Speaker 4: of the bird within. Yeah, it's sad stuff. So these

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Speaker 4: kids are going to be my embassadors. And I always this.

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Speaker 4: You'll find this later on too. Try saying no to

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Speaker 4: a ten year old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's good. It's a very a little psychological

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Speaker 2: trick there first. What can be a bit of a

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Speaker 2: slightly confrontational, awkward conversation. No, that's very wise. I mean,

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Speaker 2: so do you reckon like if you you know, if

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Speaker 2: you look at this, you're trying and remove all by

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Speaker 2: us from the equation. Do you think we could get

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Speaker 2: to a state where we actually see kiwi and many

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Speaker 2: more urban environments, because I mean, we have native bush

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Speaker 2: all around the country. But you know it, is it

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Speaker 2: inconceivable we could have kiwi and the white hockety rangers

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Speaker 2: and that kind of thing.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, We've we've got them in Wellington, We've got him

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Speaker 4: in Tara Nikki, we have them in Nelson, now you know,

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Speaker 4: And as I said, what was that fun? They heads

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Speaker 4: they're just running around it. And the cool thing was

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Speaker 4: that that David Chamberlain, that landowner witially donated those kiwi.

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Speaker 4: He wrote the most amazing pros about he said, because

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Speaker 4: they had them on Pono since nineteen sixty four. They

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Speaker 4: are fifteen hundred kibi on that island. They would say, sometimes.

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Speaker 3: They wander into our houses and make their prison stone.

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Speaker 4: By putting their beaks through the coursettes, et cetera.

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Speaker 3: It's brilliant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, that's so amazing. We're going to make sure

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Speaker 2: photos are on the news Talks i'd Be website. Thank you, Rude.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like a really special day.

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