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Speaker 1: Jason plain Sports stook coasters with us allow Pony. Hello, Heather,

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Speaker 1: how you going?

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Speaker 2: I'm going?

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Speaker 1: God, I feel like it's been such a long time.

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Speaker 1: I have to start by I basically rein catching up.

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Speaker 1: Has it been in the last week? Hey, listen, Pony,

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Speaker 1: what's going on at the Ryder Cup? I don't understand

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Speaker 1: any of this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, incredible scenes really going to the final day.

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Speaker 2: There were twelve matches, so twelve players from US against

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Speaker 2: twelve players from Europe, and you can get a point

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Speaker 2: or you can halve the match. Now, the overriding part

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Speaker 2: of this is that Europe was so far ahead, In fact,

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Speaker 2: so far ahead the historically no side had ever come

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Speaker 2: from as far back as the US would have to

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Speaker 2: come in order to win the Ryder Cup. They gave

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Speaker 2: it a decent crack. They won six of the matches,

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Speaker 2: Europe won just one. The other five matches were halved. Eventually,

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Speaker 2: Europe did retain the Ryder Cup, but only by a

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Speaker 2: small margin. So I think the US can be proud

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Speaker 2: of the golf, not that proud of their fans, but

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Speaker 2: Europe do retain the Rider Cup.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. What's going on with the fans.

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Speaker 1: Why are they throwing beer at people.

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Speaker 2: A little bit far all over there? Hasn't it? I

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Speaker 2: don't know why. The Ryder Cup, you know, more than

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Speaker 2: any other golf tournament, in fact, more than pretty much

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Speaker 2: every other golf tournament, has this little kind of unusual

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Speaker 2: layer to it. They just seem to the American fans,

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Speaker 2: you know, just be a bit borish and a bit,

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Speaker 2: as I say, a bit feral and sort of yell

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Speaker 2: and throw bear.

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Speaker 1: A different crowd from the you usual I don't know, PGA.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, well it must do otherwise that I

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Speaker 2: guess the same things would happen at the PGA or

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Speaker 2: the other part of this is maybe it feels as

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Speaker 2: though to the American fans anyway, as though this sort

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Speaker 2: of thing's okay. At the Ryder Cup, clearly the European

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Speaker 2: players don't think it's okay. Even the American players were

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Speaker 2: embarrassed and we're telling the crowd to calm down. So

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Speaker 2: whatever has happened, it just seems to have attracted that

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Speaker 2: that sort of type of golf fan, not all of them,

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Speaker 2: but some of them, and it's added a rather I guess,

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Speaker 2: unfortunate layer to a thing that's normally played under pretty yeah,

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Speaker 2: good circumstances.

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Speaker 1: All the headlines are about this, right, about this bad behavior,

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Speaker 1: rather than the actual win. Anyway, listen, what's going on here?

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Speaker 1: What are you reading into the fact that Grace Week

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Speaker 1: has gone out publicly and supported Dame Noles.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad somebody said something, because it's been just

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Speaker 2: a cone of silence, hasn't it from Netball New Zealand?

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Speaker 2: We've heard nothing from them, still haven't today. We've tried

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Speaker 2: to tried to organize to have a chat to Jenny Wiley,

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Speaker 2: the CEO, or Matt Matt Winerda, the chair of the board.

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Speaker 2: Neither is available to chat to us. I'm just glad

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Speaker 2: Grace said something interesting choice of words though here there

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Speaker 2: wasn't it we want you back, we miss you. It's

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Speaker 2: almost as though Grace wiki is speaking on behalf of

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Speaker 2: the playing group, when we know that there were at

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Speaker 2: least one or two members of that playing group who

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Speaker 2: have caused this whole thing to happen in terms of

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Speaker 2: having Dame Nolen investigated. So yeah, look, I just hope

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Speaker 2: that sanity prevails and that Grace and the vast majority

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Speaker 2: of those Silver Firm players get what they want and

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Speaker 2: what the vast majority of New Zealand netball fans want,

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Speaker 2: and that's for Dame Nolen to come back.

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Speaker 1: Are you are you reading? Because it seems like there's

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Speaker 1: two possible explanations for what's going on here. Either there

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Speaker 1: is a split in the players group where you do

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Speaker 1: have the two to seven, the group of potentially up

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Speaker 1: to seven who've caused the trouble for Dame Noll's and

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Speaker 1: there's a split in there now the troublemakers versus the

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Speaker 1: ones who want to back, or the player is actually

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Speaker 1: never intended for this to happen and it's been weaponized

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Speaker 1: by Netball New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: What do you think why would netburn New Zealand weaponizer

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Speaker 2: that's the thing? What possible benefits.

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Speaker 1: We apply for her job last year?

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Speaker 2: Well again I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's just things being bullsed up by netballs strange.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like you're right, not their finest two years

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Speaker 2: really and it will be nice to hear from them.

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Speaker 2: But look, I when you say there's a split, I

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Speaker 2: don't know whether the split certainly not fifty to fifty,

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Speaker 2: not from my understanding anyway. So and when Grace Wicker

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Speaker 2: gets up and I don't know whether she checked with

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Speaker 2: the other players whether it was okay to say that

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Speaker 2: or not, but she felt that she had the money

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Speaker 2: to speak on behalf of the playing group and you know,

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Speaker 2: using the word we constantly, and that is a pretty

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Speaker 2: good indication of that.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. Now, are you convinced by the way the Abs

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Speaker 1: are playing well?

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Speaker 2: I was convinced on Saturday night that they were very

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Speaker 2: desperate to win the game. And look, it was a

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Speaker 2: bit like that game three weeks ago against South Africa

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Speaker 2: when they kind of just had to win it, you know,

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Speaker 2: in any way they could, and South Africa nearly nicked

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Speaker 2: it at the end, but the All Blacks won it

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Speaker 2: even Part four.

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Speaker 1: Only win at the weekend because the ref basically made

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Speaker 1: some really dodgy calls.

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Speaker 2: Oh and I mean you're sounding like an Australian fan now.

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Speaker 1: I'm just put on playing the devil's advocate.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you are, and look that there certainly

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Speaker 2: has been a bit of chat about that. But you know,

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Speaker 2: when you whistled for fifteen penalties, which Australia were, I

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Speaker 2: think you have to look at yourselves and think, well,

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Speaker 2: what pictures are we showing the referee that is making

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Speaker 2: him blow up. Fifteen penalties against us. The yellow card

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Speaker 2: was a yellow card. There's no argument about that, not

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Speaker 2: from my point of view anyway. So look, when you're

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Speaker 2: winging about the ref, Heather, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Don't do that, piny.

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Speaker 2: You know that.

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Speaker 1: You know that's not fair because sometimes ref's actually suck.

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Speaker 2: Gee, it's good to have you back.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's nice to have you back. Thank you finey

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Speaker 1: I appreciating you know. He doesn't mean that a Jason

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Speaker 1: Pine sports talk coaster is like, Gee, it's good to

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Speaker 1: have you back, like a winging wife, like one of those.

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