1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Murray olds AUSSI correspondents with us. Now muz haffnoond you 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: have a graham Man. So this guy's been charged with murder? 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: Has he three counts of murder relating to three of 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 2: his children. 5 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 3: This is the twenty eight year old fellow who police 6 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 3: alleged set fire to the family home early last Sunday 7 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 3: morning about habas Won. Three children died in the fire, 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 3: two little boys two and six, and a five month 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 3: old girl. The allegation, of course, is that he tried 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 3: to stop neighbors and first responders getting into the home 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 3: and saving people. Anyway, his wife got out, so did 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: four other children. His wife's now been discharged from hospital. 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 3: The four children remain in the West Meat Children's Hospital. 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,319 Speaker 3: The father, as I said, he's twenty eight. He now well, 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: he remains in hospital. But he was obviously in that 16 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 3: induced coma. He came out of that, and he's now 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: been charged with these three murders and five counts of 18 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 3: attempted murder. 19 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: There was no appearance. 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 3: Today and obviously reminded in custody and that'll be back 21 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: up in a couple of three months time. 22 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: And still no explanation for why he did it. 23 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 3: No, you know, obviously police getting a brief of evidence 24 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: together to present the court when he's up next. 25 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that Alice Springs curfew's ended, right, there's no 26 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: decision to extend it. 27 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: No decision to extend it. That did expire. The seventy 28 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 3: two hour curf you expired this morning. And the governments 29 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 3: that have had a meeting this morning and said, you 30 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 3: know what is not a good idea The town is 31 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 3: full of It's an annual migration into Alice Springs from 32 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 3: a lot of people who live remotely and I'm talking 33 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 3: very remotely, and a lot of people come and to 34 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: see family and so on. But what that does, of course, 35 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: is according to authorities, is create all sorts of issues 36 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 3: when families get together. 37 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: You know what Christmas can be like with a pain 38 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: of the bump with Uncle Bill and he. 39 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: Gets full of the state school hat rack and says 40 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 3: inappropriate stuff. Well, that's what's happening in Alice Springs and 41 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: people are settling grievances and having fights and so on. 42 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: So what the government has said, guess what, We're not 43 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 3: going to extend it. 44 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: What we're going to do is have the police are going. 45 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: Northern Territory police and other springs are going to be 46 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 3: leading like a multi agency response to this. One of 47 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: the most exciting your sounding things is because there's two 48 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty million dollars been set aside with the 49 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: federal government to help set up programs that are that 50 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: are actually. 51 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: Going to work. 52 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: And one of these is a program that enrolls Indigenous 53 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 3: children and young adults sixteen to twenty four. 54 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 2: It's a two year program. They have a place to. 55 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: Stay in a sort of a boarding school, setup, education, training, 56 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 3: and ultimately employment. If you get a few things like 57 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: that going and turn some of the young people onto 58 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 3: that they won't be out drinking and punching on. 59 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's how that works, Marz. 60 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: Listen, this business about the picassos at Hobart not actually 61 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: being pocasos. Is this a controversy or. 62 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 3: Not well to the extent that people around the world 63 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 3: have been now talking about it, like I suppose it is. 64 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a I. 65 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 3: Mean the couple who own Mona, this is a magnificent 66 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 3: gallery just up the river from Hobart about fifteen to 67 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 3: twenty minute ferry right, and you're there, and it is 68 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: apparently I've not been there. My wife's been there a 69 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: couple of times. I've not been there, but it is 70 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,559 Speaker 3: the most amazing gallery. And yes, they had two picassas 71 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: on display for the last four years. But the wife 72 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: of the museum owner has revealed today on social media 73 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 3: she actually paid to them herself. Her name is Kershakcelli. 74 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 3: She used social media to out herself. She couldn't get 75 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: picassos to show in the museum. The cost of insurance 76 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 3: alone would be too much, so she and her girlfriend said, buggaret, 77 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: let's do some ourselves, and they have. The only way 78 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 3: it's come to light is because a fellow of these 79 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 3: two fake, fake picassos were hanging in the ladies lounge. 80 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: Well, Sydney Man was down there at Oi. How can 81 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: I cartgement of the ladies lounge? It's discrimination. 82 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 3: So he's gone to the legal Assistem in Tasmania alleging 83 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: he's been district dominated against the lower court found yes 84 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: he has. It's now being appealed by the gallery owner 85 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: and his wife. And as part of this process she's 86 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: come out and said this and by the way, they're 87 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: not real picassos. But she's still insisting only women can 88 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 3: see them because there's a nude and there's a luncheon 89 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: on a rug, and so she's hanging them both in 90 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: the ladies loop. 91 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: So look it is. 92 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 3: It is a bit of a tongue in cheek, a 93 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 3: protest by this woman, I suppose, but certainly, look, it's 94 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: made a lot of headlines over here, and a lot 95 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: of people think this museum, that this art gallery, I 96 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 3: beg your parden is really the Dutch nuts are just 97 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: as fantastic. 98 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: Maz but are you telling me that this whole controversy 99 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: about the Picasso's, there were only two Picassos and neither 100 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: of them. 101 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: Are real, not the pocastos real. 102 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: She went down to two Picassos. 103 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 3: Well, there was one that was Apparently she's up in 104 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: Paris this year. She's gone to an art exhibition in Paris. 105 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 3: Sure enough, there's one of the Picasso's that she copied 106 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 3: and she reckons hers is better. So to the extene, Look, 107 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: I don't know two Picassos. She went to Bunning's, got 108 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: a six inch paintbrush and went back home and knocked 109 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 3: these two up and make the world's been believing up. 110 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Picasso, So whatever, males. 111 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. 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