WEBVTT - On The Front Foot Episode 250: The Black Caps' journey to the WT20 Final 0:00:09.093 --> 0:00:11.973 You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B. 0:00:12.373 --> 0:00:16.133 Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 0:00:19.973 --> 0:00:25.013 Take another's it is out, The test is over. 0:00:27.253 --> 0:00:29.693 Goodness smoke wows. 0:00:29.013 --> 0:00:31.933 A beauty It is out. 0:00:31.053 --> 0:00:34.133 Here you guys. Just Delivery has in users to Bowl. 0:00:36.373 --> 0:00:39.773 On the Front Foot with Brian Waddell and Jeremy Cody, 0:00:40.053 --> 0:00:43.973 powered by News Talks hed B at iHeart Radio. 0:00:45.893 --> 0:00:49.333 Wow a dazzling display of top order batting and a 0:00:49.413 --> 0:00:53.013 controlled efficient bowling effort demolished South Africa at the World 0:00:53.093 --> 0:00:57.053 T twenty. As we celebrate another finals, Bird on the 0:00:57.053 --> 0:01:00.853 Front Foot with Masterstroke by Razine helping you master your 0:01:00.973 --> 0:01:06.333 decorating projects. Does the current T twenty competition though lack integrity? 0:01:06.413 --> 0:01:09.773 Will try and answer that question by a British journalist 0:01:10.573 --> 0:01:14.693 and the White Ferns Dispatch Zimbabwe. But is it about 0:01:14.733 --> 0:01:18.893 the results or about the overall development of the women's game? 0:01:19.453 --> 0:01:21.293 But it's World T twenty. 0:01:22.293 --> 0:01:26.213 This unlike me, Jerry to be celebrating and get excited 0:01:26.373 --> 0:01:29.413 over a tea tweitty game and we've won it. 0:01:29.133 --> 0:01:30.853 The first time You've actually enjoyed. 0:01:31.213 --> 0:01:36.053 You look as if you're enjoying. It's great, But lo wdds. Yeah, 0:01:36.133 --> 0:01:39.693 I think there's an element. I mean, given the performances 0:01:39.693 --> 0:01:42.173 of the two sides leading up to it, and given 0:01:42.213 --> 0:01:46.253 the hiding South Africa dished out to us in the 0:01:46.333 --> 0:01:49.693 group phase, and that New Zealand had come from those 0:01:49.773 --> 0:01:53.733 slow turning conditions in Sri Lanka back to India, and 0:01:53.813 --> 0:01:56.773 that one of our main bowl has virtually stepped off 0:01:56.813 --> 0:01:58.573 the flight from New Zealand. 0:01:59.293 --> 0:02:00.733 It was an unexpected win. 0:02:00.813 --> 0:02:03.213 I think that's fair to say it, but that's not 0:02:03.333 --> 0:02:08.053 a complaint in capitals. So we got a good start. 0:02:08.093 --> 0:02:11.613 I think we won the toss and we bowled first. 0:02:11.653 --> 0:02:14.213 I think that was very important in the context of 0:02:14.253 --> 0:02:18.173 the game. Mconkie, I never know whether it's mconkie or maconchie. 0:02:18.213 --> 0:02:23.013 You guys will have to decide, right, so McConkie second. 0:02:23.053 --> 0:02:23.333 Over. 0:02:23.893 --> 0:02:27.973 What it meant was I think that and that South 0:02:28.013 --> 0:02:32.733 Africa had to then make an unfamiliar choice. They a 0:02:32.973 --> 0:02:35.893 faced the weight of expectation because of their batting and 0:02:35.933 --> 0:02:39.013 so on, and they're unaccustomed to their top order going 0:02:39.093 --> 0:02:42.973 so quickly. And what it meant was because it wasn't 0:02:42.973 --> 0:02:48.013 the customary innings they had established over the tournament, they 0:02:48.093 --> 0:02:51.973 suddenly had to work out whether to you know, to 0:02:52.013 --> 0:02:55.413 get a total. They either just batted on the way 0:02:55.453 --> 0:02:57.973 that they did, or they had to get to the 0:02:58.013 --> 0:03:03.333 tenth over. I reckon eleventh over by not losing virtually 0:03:03.453 --> 0:03:04.213 any further work. 0:03:04.253 --> 0:03:08.053 It's maybe one max and then attack. That meant you. 0:03:08.053 --> 0:03:10.893 Would've had Mark Gramore Brevis who was at the crease. 0:03:10.933 --> 0:03:14.413 Then after the mc McConkey had got his two wickets, 0:03:15.093 --> 0:03:18.813 then you had still Miller, Stubbs, Jansen and. 0:03:18.773 --> 0:03:22.613 Bosh to go for those last half of the game. 0:03:23.253 --> 0:03:25.093 But they didn't. They chose the first option. 0:03:25.573 --> 0:03:29.933 They didn't delay the attack, and therefore they started to 0:03:29.973 --> 0:03:31.373 lose further wickets. 0:03:31.613 --> 0:03:33.213 And I don't know how you guys. 0:03:33.213 --> 0:03:37.533 Saw that general overall pattern, because by the time ten 0:03:37.573 --> 0:03:40.293 eleven overs came round, they were five down. 0:03:40.613 --> 0:03:44.893 Peter Holland is back with us, and I'm sure there's 0:03:44.933 --> 0:03:48.693 one thing that I sort of gleaned out of all 0:03:48.693 --> 0:03:50.573 of this was, apart from the fact they won and 0:03:50.613 --> 0:03:55.013 won comprehensively, your favorite man, the captain had an outstanding 0:03:55.053 --> 0:03:58.373 game really in terms of changing his bowlers and doing 0:03:58.413 --> 0:04:01.773 all he had to do, plus winning a toss, which 0:04:01.853 --> 0:04:05.013 is no me achievement competition. 0:04:05.133 --> 0:04:07.253 Did that first of all, I just want to express 0:04:07.253 --> 0:04:11.053 my enormous for ustration at this victory, because I've put 0:04:11.093 --> 0:04:13.333 a quite a lot of work and effort into just 0:04:13.413 --> 0:04:17.213 working through what my expectations were, which was too on 0:04:17.293 --> 0:04:21.253 this on the podcast today to explain why New Zealand 0:04:21.293 --> 0:04:24.733 had failed and lost, what the good things we could 0:04:24.773 --> 0:04:27.013 take out of it and so on. Well, I've had 0:04:27.013 --> 0:04:31.973 to rip all that up, haven't I. I mean, that's 0:04:32.013 --> 0:04:32.973 gone down the toilet. 0:04:33.413 --> 0:04:34.933 No, you can keep it for next week. 0:04:35.373 --> 0:04:38.493 Is that why you were late onto the podcast? 0:04:39.253 --> 0:04:40.533 You've blocked the laboratory. 0:04:42.493 --> 0:04:44.693 I'm confidently predicted, you know, we're going to lose. We 0:04:44.853 --> 0:04:47.053 five nil down and everything else. They flogged us the 0:04:47.093 --> 0:04:51.933 other day, they flogged in the and I just predicted 0:04:51.973 --> 0:04:54.213 they are the best best twenty twenty team in the world. 0:04:54.453 --> 0:04:58.733 Well yeah, well, well bugging me, excuse me? Apologies? Well, 0:04:58.773 --> 0:05:01.453 I apologize for all of that. And it's been the 0:05:01.493 --> 0:05:04.453 complete revelation and what a performance. 0:05:04.813 --> 0:05:07.613 Yes, indeed, and to a certain extent, you know, we 0:05:08.013 --> 0:05:10.933 probably can revive the fact that South Africa are chokers 0:05:11.133 --> 0:05:12.693 again at the top level. 0:05:12.733 --> 0:05:13.773 Or is that a bit unfair? 0:05:14.053 --> 0:05:18.013 I always refrained from the word chokers because you know, 0:05:18.213 --> 0:05:22.213 if you constantly get into semifinals and finals but you lose. Yeah, 0:05:22.413 --> 0:05:24.333 it's a bit like Greg Norman. He was called a choker, 0:05:24.373 --> 0:05:26.653 but gee was he won a lot? And that doesn't 0:05:26.653 --> 0:05:29.173 necessarily mean that I, you know, not that I was 0:05:29.173 --> 0:05:32.693 ever choker. It was never any good. But so I know, 0:05:32.733 --> 0:05:38.413 I just think that on a day, and I think 0:05:38.493 --> 0:05:41.293 the conditions are better for New Zealand. 0:05:41.893 --> 0:05:44.813 Look, we've had a hell of a lot of semifinals. 0:05:45.253 --> 0:05:48.413 Are we chokers? So? And we haven't got too many, 0:05:49.053 --> 0:05:52.853 you know, too many cups, I got to say, so, 0:05:53.173 --> 0:05:57.133 I don't think it is. I got a couple of questions, 0:05:57.133 --> 0:06:00.773 though you've you've given Mitchell Santina the big you know, 0:06:00.893 --> 0:06:06.173 Rev put McConkie have bowled another over well at some point, 0:06:06.653 --> 0:06:09.893 at some point in it, please, I mean Miller is 0:06:09.893 --> 0:06:12.853 a left hander, Robarda was a left hander. 0:06:12.893 --> 0:06:14.093 India will have more. 0:06:14.933 --> 0:06:17.453 And then my next question that you guys can answer 0:06:17.453 --> 0:06:18.733 for me is should niche. 0:06:18.453 --> 0:06:22.653 And bowl in the power play? And then a wider 0:06:22.733 --> 0:06:24.733 question should he bowl? 0:06:26.413 --> 0:06:26.533 Well? 0:06:26.573 --> 0:06:28.613 Didn't we answer that last week that he shouldn't have 0:06:28.613 --> 0:06:30.613 been in the power play? Whether he should have bowled, 0:06:30.693 --> 0:06:32.333 I'm not sure. I think he picked up a wicket, 0:06:32.373 --> 0:06:36.973 didn't he? But you know, yeah, the McConkie one is 0:06:37.013 --> 0:06:40.493 interesting because I mean he's their choice, isn't he In 0:06:40.613 --> 0:06:44.373 terms of selection. He's there as a replacement for a 0:06:44.413 --> 0:06:48.453 player who was probably considered in the first eleven braceball 0:06:48.813 --> 0:06:52.693 and you know, to get to open the bowling. It's 0:06:52.693 --> 0:06:55.453 a hard thing to decide, moose whether or not the 0:06:55.493 --> 0:06:57.613 bowlers won the game or the batseman won the game. 0:06:58.173 --> 0:07:05.173 Oh that conundrum. Yeah, this guy mconkie, he's he's been 0:07:05.373 --> 0:07:11.013 delivering over a long time, hasn't hears and been a 0:07:11.013 --> 0:07:13.213 good player for a long time. It goes back to 0:07:13.253 --> 0:07:16.453 this stuff around you know, the Aussies and and and 0:07:16.773 --> 0:07:19.333 you know they come into the game after a lot 0:07:19.373 --> 0:07:22.213 of experience, and we've seen this with Bracewell, now Maconkey 0:07:22.773 --> 0:07:25.973 and others. It's it says a lot for it. So 0:07:26.653 --> 0:07:31.453 one not overawed, but two can deliver both bad and ball. Again, 0:07:31.493 --> 0:07:33.853 I've got to take my hat off to the selectors, 0:07:33.853 --> 0:07:36.693 which I ordinarily wouldn't do, but I think that the 0:07:36.773 --> 0:07:39.333 selections of interesting. I do have a question mark about 0:07:39.413 --> 0:07:43.253 Nichem and wondered whether I was I was interested in 0:07:43.253 --> 0:07:45.893 one that he was playing because I thought we had 0:07:45.933 --> 0:07:48.373 a pretty good settled side from the previous one, but 0:07:48.413 --> 0:07:52.093 that was picked in different conditions. Doerry, I have a 0:07:52.173 --> 0:07:56.773 question for you that perhaps the listeners could we mind 0:07:56.853 --> 0:08:01.653 enjoy it? There's conversations about black soil now I think 0:08:01.693 --> 0:08:04.653 I know what that means. Is that can you is 0:08:04.653 --> 0:08:08.293 that just because it's it bakes harder and doesn't break 0:08:08.533 --> 0:08:11.573 up or what is it? Because it seems to me 0:08:11.653 --> 0:08:14.093 that we played better in those sort of conditions on 0:08:14.173 --> 0:08:16.173 these in these sort of conditions where we played the 0:08:16.213 --> 0:08:17.413 one day as against India. 0:08:17.973 --> 0:08:20.733 Groundsman Cane, I think it just oh look, I just 0:08:20.813 --> 0:08:24.493 think that it's it's slower, isn't it, and it might 0:08:24.653 --> 0:08:26.733 just bounce a little bit less. 0:08:27.893 --> 0:08:29.253 I'm not too sure. I didn't. 0:08:29.333 --> 0:08:33.173 I didn't play in India, so I can't really answer 0:08:33.253 --> 0:08:36.653 that they're going to they've got both when they when 0:08:36.653 --> 0:08:41.293 they do manage to go to the final. Amanabad has 0:08:41.693 --> 0:08:44.013 is the place for the final, has got both red 0:08:44.053 --> 0:08:48.533 and black in the different parts of their square or 0:08:48.573 --> 0:08:52.773 their block, if you like. So we don't know exactly 0:08:53.733 --> 0:08:57.893 which one it's going to be, but certainly Finellen after 0:08:57.973 --> 0:09:01.933 the match spoke about it being a black soil pitch 0:09:02.013 --> 0:09:04.453 and he enjoyed that, and he had played on it 0:09:04.573 --> 0:09:08.053 once before and so he had some idea about that 0:09:08.493 --> 0:09:12.853 seemed to suit him. Actually, didn't it McConkey. Both was 0:09:12.973 --> 0:09:15.853 shorter balls, weren't they. Those two wickets he got on 0:09:15.973 --> 0:09:20.693 that second over both slightly shorter and I think slightly quicker, 0:09:21.013 --> 0:09:24.533 and they bounced a little bit more because the pop 0:09:24.613 --> 0:09:27.413 got a sort of quite high up on the bat, 0:09:27.493 --> 0:09:31.693 didn't he towards the splice and that's why he got 0:09:31.693 --> 0:09:33.373 no power into. 0:09:33.253 --> 0:09:34.413 It and was caught mid on. 0:09:35.453 --> 0:09:38.733 And then Rickleton first ball got a short one outside 0:09:38.813 --> 0:09:40.573 his off stump and that bounced as well, and he 0:09:40.653 --> 0:09:44.533 sliced it just a little bit as well to Alan 0:09:44.733 --> 0:09:48.693 at backward point. So that I just thought that was 0:09:48.773 --> 0:09:52.853 quite smart bowling actually, And that. 0:09:52.813 --> 0:09:54.893 Might be that experience you spoke about. 0:09:55.253 --> 0:09:59.493 But they were important, important wickets, I think, very important 0:09:59.533 --> 0:10:00.493 in terms of the game. 0:10:00.853 --> 0:10:03.693 Oh well, to get those players out, you know, they 0:10:04.253 --> 0:10:07.013 can be a real danger. And then later to get 0:10:07.333 --> 0:10:11.733 Brievius out. He's been one of the leading scorers well 0:10:11.773 --> 0:10:14.173 in terms of strike great rather than runs scored. But 0:10:14.413 --> 0:10:16.573 you know, you look look at that, I mean Alan 0:10:16.813 --> 0:10:20.853 Allen's innings often he gets to fifty or sixty and 0:10:21.973 --> 0:10:25.853 is inclined to get out. Isn't he you know, trying 0:10:25.853 --> 0:10:30.453 to increase the tempo. But I mean his innings thirty 0:10:30.493 --> 0:10:35.653 three balls. I mean, as as Mitchell Senter said after 0:10:35.653 --> 0:10:36.053 the game. 0:10:35.933 --> 0:10:36.773 It's not bad, is it. 0:10:39.613 --> 0:10:44.773 Mitchell sat Is He is known for the for understatement. 0:10:46.133 --> 0:10:48.453 But on that point, I think we did touch on 0:10:48.493 --> 0:10:53.253 it in an earlier podcast. Alan is maturing and seems 0:10:53.253 --> 0:10:58.413 to be coming into understanding his game better. He showed 0:10:58.453 --> 0:11:02.773 some patience when there were in other conditions. But I 0:11:02.813 --> 0:11:07.493 also note that in recently come out of the Big Bash, 0:11:07.653 --> 0:11:11.653 he yeah, he got hundreds there and big scores. So 0:11:11.773 --> 0:11:14.213 he's working his game out and needs to go on 0:11:14.293 --> 0:11:17.253 and is doing it. But that was some innings. I mean, 0:11:17.373 --> 0:11:20.853 my lord, I mean, I mean, I've had messages from 0:11:20.853 --> 0:11:25.453 the Netherlands which says of something about the interest in 0:11:25.493 --> 0:11:29.133 the in the tournament as well, I might add, and 0:11:29.173 --> 0:11:32.933 that that in itself and it says here admitting black 0:11:32.973 --> 0:11:41.173 in the Finava soil. Again, yeah, but it says something 0:11:41.213 --> 0:11:44.453 about it because people are watching this and as I say, 0:11:44.493 --> 0:11:47.173 I'm getting, you know, getting messages quite a few out 0:11:47.173 --> 0:11:50.213 of the Netherlands. That says something about this twenty twenty 0:11:50.213 --> 0:11:52.253 which frankly I thought would be a bit of a wallfest, 0:11:52.293 --> 0:11:53.693 which is hardly what it's been. 0:11:54.653 --> 0:11:57.933 Well, I would say Fanell and remember the name. 0:11:58.813 --> 0:12:03.733 Yes, I'm going to have to review my lack of 0:12:03.773 --> 0:12:08.253 trust in people. No surname, And I also wonder what 0:12:08.453 --> 0:12:10.573 New Zealand's net run raisers at the moment. 0:12:10.893 --> 0:12:13.493 But anyway, Look, it was a special innings, wasn't it. 0:12:15.293 --> 0:12:20.093 Very clean, hitting, great power and I think good options 0:12:20.133 --> 0:12:27.493 as well. Look, I thought anything up outside off it 0:12:27.693 --> 0:12:28.253 just goes. 0:12:29.253 --> 0:12:30.933 I mean he hits straight. 0:12:31.333 --> 0:12:34.973 In fact, he and Cipher both hit straight very well 0:12:35.013 --> 0:12:39.493 and powerfully, so it forces the bowlers you've either got 0:12:39.493 --> 0:12:41.653 a bowl very wide of off stump but not a wide, 0:12:42.733 --> 0:12:46.453 or you've got to pull your length back. And I 0:12:46.533 --> 0:12:49.493 thought they handled the short stuff also quite well, apart 0:12:49.493 --> 0:12:52.413 from Cipher's one where there was a missed catch fairly 0:12:52.453 --> 0:12:58.973 early on, wasn't there But you know, I just feel 0:12:59.293 --> 0:13:04.013 that he played very very well. Also Maharaj. He got 0:13:04.053 --> 0:13:06.773 back to Maharaj and played him virtually from the back 0:13:06.773 --> 0:13:10.173 foot and he got leg side of it and he 0:13:11.053 --> 0:13:13.173 tucked it or flicked it on the on side for 0:13:13.253 --> 0:13:16.253 two or four. If he ragged it down a little bit, 0:13:16.293 --> 0:13:19.013 it went to cow corner. If he pitched it up 0:13:19.973 --> 0:13:22.573 and he saw the lynx and it was full enough, he. 0:13:22.613 --> 0:13:24.653 Just bashed him straight over the bowler's head. 0:13:24.933 --> 0:13:30.133 So he had all that, all those components very very 0:13:30.293 --> 0:13:33.213 much under control. I thought, Yeah, there was a bit 0:13:33.253 --> 0:13:35.893 of luck in the first three overs, I think for 0:13:36.853 --> 0:13:39.813 both the bats and just a tad you know, fortune 0:13:39.853 --> 0:13:42.133 sat on their shoulders a bit. There were some outside 0:13:42.173 --> 0:13:45.293 middles that were close to fieldsmen or went over and 0:13:45.813 --> 0:13:48.933 went to boundary. But once they got going, it was 0:13:49.173 --> 0:13:51.293 very hard to bowl to them, I think, you know. 0:13:53.133 --> 0:13:56.093 And so what did they get to one hundred and 0:13:56.093 --> 0:13:57.813 seventeen for one so quickly? 0:13:57.933 --> 0:13:58.133 Yeah? 0:13:58.653 --> 0:14:02.213 Yeah, And we tend to forget that. Seifert played an 0:14:02.253 --> 0:14:05.093 important role. In fact, he started it all often. He 0:14:05.653 --> 0:14:08.133 took a major amount of the strike and started the 0:14:08.373 --> 0:14:11.453 thing early. Allen had to wait. He went or a 0:14:11.493 --> 0:14:16.493 good five balls without getting many runs, which was quite unbelievable. 0:14:16.533 --> 0:14:20.733 But interesting about the spin they opted for just one 0:14:20.733 --> 0:14:25.973 spin bowl of Maharaj. New Zealand went spin option, pretty much, 0:14:26.013 --> 0:14:29.653 didn't they with McConkie. Okay, only the. 0:14:29.573 --> 0:14:36.453 One over, but senter Revendra nine off two. 0:14:37.933 --> 0:14:43.493 You know that that's nine overs of spin and eight 0:14:43.533 --> 0:14:45.773 overs of seam and three overs of what Niche balls. 0:14:47.453 --> 0:14:50.573 I think Revendra is actually becoming quite a smart left 0:14:50.693 --> 0:14:53.013 armor when someone's attacking him. 0:14:53.533 --> 0:14:56.133 I think what he's doing is and I think. 0:14:55.933 --> 0:15:01.133 We saw just little incidences that we also saw in 0:15:01.173 --> 0:15:03.453 Sri Lanka. And of course it was turning a lot 0:15:03.493 --> 0:15:06.893 more over there. But any batsman that goes too early 0:15:06.973 --> 0:15:10.533 before he's released the ball, he can pull it a 0:15:10.573 --> 0:15:13.733 little bit wider and he drags the length just a 0:15:13.773 --> 0:15:16.813 little shorter as well. Okay, it may not have got 0:15:16.853 --> 0:15:21.293 wickets in terms of stumping here because it didn't turn 0:15:21.413 --> 0:15:24.453 so much, but you know he was able. 0:15:24.573 --> 0:15:26.373 They had to then adjust the stroke. 0:15:26.493 --> 0:15:30.613 But he's very aware and he you're almost bowling like 0:15:30.653 --> 0:15:33.933 a batsman. If you're coming at me, I will do this, 0:15:34.693 --> 0:15:38.973 and I think he notices that, and that's been quite 0:15:38.973 --> 0:15:42.053 a change in his bowling. I think because people are 0:15:42.093 --> 0:15:45.333 after him, there were catches dropped off him, weren't there. 0:15:45.573 --> 0:15:48.973 I mean, that's that's something also to mention guys. Revenger 0:15:49.053 --> 0:15:52.133 dropping a catch off Markram and the off the Ferguson 0:15:52.173 --> 0:15:55.173 over which I thought was quite a comfortable catch. He 0:15:55.253 --> 0:15:59.573 misjudged it at midwicket and then the catch off Ravendra 0:15:59.733 --> 0:16:06.053 himself sort of a running outfield catch which needed judgment 0:16:06.573 --> 0:16:08.893 and he got there easily, in fact didn't get a 0:16:08.893 --> 0:16:09.373 hand to it. 0:16:09.413 --> 0:16:10.533 It hit him on the chest. 0:16:11.573 --> 0:16:14.933 And I just wonder whether New Zealand are doing the 0:16:14.973 --> 0:16:19.173 catching under lights, because I noticed I don't know whether 0:16:19.173 --> 0:16:23.653 you guys did. When ferguson Court was at the pop 0:16:23.893 --> 0:16:28.053 first wicket he said to Sody as Sody brought something 0:16:28.053 --> 0:16:31.653 on and left, those lights were in my eyes. 0:16:31.693 --> 0:16:33.373 It wasn't as easy as it looked. 0:16:34.213 --> 0:16:39.213 And I just wonder whether New Zealand hadn't done the 0:16:39.253 --> 0:16:41.213 catching that you need to do. 0:16:41.293 --> 0:16:44.573 And I hope that they do that before the next game. 0:16:45.533 --> 0:16:47.533 Yes, well that's going to be in ama Aband and 0:16:47.573 --> 0:16:49.813 of course there's plenty of lights there and there'll be 0:16:49.813 --> 0:16:53.053 a full house. At the moment, we don't know who 0:16:53.173 --> 0:16:54.893 they're going to be playing, but it's going to be 0:16:55.293 --> 0:16:56.133 an interesting test. 0:16:56.213 --> 0:17:00.973 Most I was simply saying that I think what we're 0:17:01.013 --> 0:17:04.693 seeing is is a lot of our players evolving and 0:17:04.733 --> 0:17:07.893 developing with experience, and we're talking to Revenge of becoming 0:17:07.933 --> 0:17:12.613 a very useful left arm, the left arm spinner. As 0:17:12.773 --> 0:17:16.493 Jerry was just discussing the way I fell out and 0:17:16.653 --> 0:17:19.533 played Maharage. That's the sort of stuff that I mean. 0:17:19.733 --> 0:17:21.813 Jerry spent five minutes saying what I said in about 0:17:21.853 --> 0:17:24.133 one but that's what we're talking about. 0:17:27.573 --> 0:17:29.413 I like to make my comments clear. 0:17:30.093 --> 0:17:33.973 Yes, exactly quite right. That's that to me is a maturing, 0:17:34.973 --> 0:17:37.893 maturing player who's getting to understand their games. And I've 0:17:37.933 --> 0:17:42.133 seen that's going across the broad We're also getting contributions 0:17:42.293 --> 0:17:46.413 across from from pretty much the entire team, and that's 0:17:46.413 --> 0:17:51.053 got to be comfortable of great encouragement to us supporters 0:17:51.093 --> 0:17:53.973 of the Zealand cricket team going going into the next 0:17:53.973 --> 0:17:55.373 game looking forward to it. 0:17:56.053 --> 0:17:59.533 Yeah, and you know, I think they've achieved more than 0:17:59.693 --> 0:18:00.973 many of us might have expected. 0:18:01.013 --> 0:18:03.013 I expected the top four. 0:18:03.773 --> 0:18:06.413 I got to say, like you, I had to screw 0:18:06.493 --> 0:18:10.893 up my script most because I was expecting South Africa, 0:18:10.933 --> 0:18:14.013 who were many people's favorites and who had played with 0:18:14.093 --> 0:18:17.213 the sort of efficiency and consistency that you expect from 0:18:17.493 --> 0:18:21.973 a strong side. I expected them to win. I didn't 0:18:22.013 --> 0:18:26.413 expect and I won't be expecting the New Zealand cricket 0:18:26.453 --> 0:18:28.973 board to find the players for failing if they don't 0:18:29.093 --> 0:18:32.373 win the final, the way Pakistan has done for their 0:18:32.413 --> 0:18:37.373 players for an underwhelming T twenty World Cup campaign. The 0:18:37.413 --> 0:18:42.173 players have been fined equivalent of US eighteen thousand it's 0:18:42.173 --> 0:18:45.013 about thirty thousand New Zealand for missing out on the 0:18:45.053 --> 0:18:46.973 semi finals of the event. 0:18:48.653 --> 0:18:49.013 I mean, I. 0:18:50.893 --> 0:18:54.293 Just find that incomprehensible that any cricket board could do 0:18:54.373 --> 0:18:55.173 that to their players. 0:18:55.173 --> 0:18:56.653 But I guess that's Pakistan. 0:18:56.733 --> 0:19:00.533 Isn't it fine by the board or the government who 0:19:00.573 --> 0:19:04.613 knows they're both. The second thing I guess I would 0:19:04.653 --> 0:19:07.813 say about that hasn't been backdated to other sides that 0:19:07.853 --> 0:19:11.973 have lost. The third thing I might think about was 0:19:11.973 --> 0:19:14.413 what about that guy Fahan who's got three hundred and 0:19:14.453 --> 0:19:17.733 eighty three runs in an average of about eighty You're 0:19:17.733 --> 0:19:18.453 going to find him? 0:19:18.693 --> 0:19:21.013 Are they going to find Hessen as well? The coach? 0:19:22.813 --> 0:19:26.133 Yeah, there's disappointment when teams don't do as well as 0:19:26.173 --> 0:19:28.933 you would like, but finding them says we're going to 0:19:28.973 --> 0:19:34.213 attach your money value to that disappointment, and obviously the 0:19:34.213 --> 0:19:36.773 PCB is short of cash. 0:19:36.813 --> 0:19:39.573 I have great sympathy for the Pakistani players, not only 0:19:39.693 --> 0:19:43.973 getting walloped by their own people. They're getting expressly excluded 0:19:43.973 --> 0:19:50.293 from other competitions. I mean that's you know, it's not 0:19:50.373 --> 0:19:53.533 their fault. I think that. Yeah, Okay, they didn't get him, 0:19:53.573 --> 0:19:55.013 but there were quite a few other teams that didn't 0:19:55.013 --> 0:19:56.933 get in the semi finals either. I just have a 0:19:56.933 --> 0:20:00.493 great for them getting that wap from every direction. 0:20:00.893 --> 0:20:03.573 Well, there's a heck of an element of good luck, 0:20:03.653 --> 0:20:04.053 isn't there. 0:20:04.093 --> 0:20:08.293 And yeah, and they had the rain, Yeah. 0:20:07.453 --> 0:20:07.973 That's right. 0:20:08.133 --> 0:20:10.933 And and even though they scored well, they're up against 0:20:10.973 --> 0:20:14.653 a run rate pressure in the last game against Sri Lanka, 0:20:14.853 --> 0:20:18.413 which brings us to an interesting point raised by Tim Wigmore, 0:20:18.453 --> 0:20:21.853 the man who wrote the history of Test cricket, wrote 0:20:21.853 --> 0:20:24.733 an article in The Telegraph talking about this World t 0:20:24.733 --> 0:20:28.413 twenty saying it has no integrity and India is to blame. 0:20:28.653 --> 0:20:33.613 Cricket is the only sport to precede knockout stages as 0:20:33.853 --> 0:20:39.213 they look to try and promote their own performance. Do 0:20:39.293 --> 0:20:45.693 you imagine that these tournaments are lacking in integrity? As 0:20:45.733 --> 0:20:50.373 he says that tournaments are built on integrity, competitiveness, consistency 0:20:50.413 --> 0:20:52.493 in fairness, and yet you know there are so many 0:20:52.573 --> 0:20:55.573 rules that make it a lot more difficult for sides 0:20:55.613 --> 0:20:58.053 to play. When you think back to how they decided 0:20:58.093 --> 0:20:59.213 the Super eight competition. 0:21:00.053 --> 0:21:04.453 Well, I think I think the idea and the word 0:21:04.533 --> 0:21:09.893 integrity is probably best considered to be aspiration as opposed 0:21:09.973 --> 0:21:14.933 to an obligation. And I think anyone who's been around 0:21:15.213 --> 0:21:19.973 and has observed cricket and possibly other sports should be 0:21:20.013 --> 0:21:24.173 well aware the fact that perhaps things are not as 0:21:24.373 --> 0:21:31.533 we might like, but they what's the word, seem to 0:21:31.533 --> 0:21:37.173 be some teams seem to get better luck when the 0:21:37.213 --> 0:21:41.573 cards are drawn, so to speak, or whatever. And that's 0:21:41.653 --> 0:21:43.333 just the way it's been and I don't think that's 0:21:43.373 --> 0:21:47.253 going to change anytime soon, would be my observation. Cynical perhaps, 0:21:47.933 --> 0:21:49.053 but that's the way it is. 0:21:49.133 --> 0:21:53.293 And yeah, no, that's not cynical. It's just a fact. 0:21:53.453 --> 0:21:57.013 Now. I think we've got to acknowledge it that India 0:21:57.053 --> 0:22:02.853 have been favored once again. You know, India have distinct advantages. 0:22:02.853 --> 0:22:04.773 They've had them in the past. You'd look at the 0:22:04.813 --> 0:22:08.453 guy on a situation and Lasty twenty World Cup. They 0:22:08.533 --> 0:22:10.333 knew where they were going to play their semi they 0:22:10.413 --> 0:22:13.573 weren't weren't going to do that otherwise, so they could 0:22:13.613 --> 0:22:17.093 therefore select players and their squad to suit the conditions there. 0:22:17.893 --> 0:22:20.853 And then don't forget the Champion's trophy where they went 0:22:20.893 --> 0:22:24.213 down to Dubai and they stayed there the entire time 0:22:24.213 --> 0:22:27.653 while everybody else traveled for hours. They could practice at 0:22:27.653 --> 0:22:31.773 the same ground continually, a nice gentle product bar ride 0:22:31.813 --> 0:22:34.893 back to the hotel each day. They knew the venue 0:22:34.933 --> 0:22:37.893 will they knew the lights, they knew the jew factor, 0:22:37.973 --> 0:22:39.933 they knew the angles, they knew the ends. 0:22:39.973 --> 0:22:43.293 For bowlers, they were all set up in their changing room. 0:22:43.813 --> 0:22:47.493 I mean, for heaven's sake, they always play the last game, 0:22:48.373 --> 0:22:52.693 you know, in the group stages, just in case, so 0:22:52.813 --> 0:22:55.973 that they know exactly how many overs they have to 0:22:56.013 --> 0:22:59.013 get the runs in, or how many wickets they have 0:22:59.133 --> 0:23:00.773 to take, or those sorts of things. 0:23:01.093 --> 0:23:01.813 And that's been. 0:23:01.853 --> 0:23:04.493 Five out of the last, so the guy points out 0:23:04.533 --> 0:23:07.413 in his little article, five of the last six World 0:23:07.453 --> 0:23:13.093 Cups they play the last group game. Yes, you don't 0:23:13.133 --> 0:23:16.893 mind it being once, that's fair enough, but five out 0:23:16.893 --> 0:23:19.653 of six is a bit more than what you would expect. 0:23:20.213 --> 0:23:23.333 I don't like the preceding guys either. I don't like 0:23:23.413 --> 0:23:26.973 that at all. Frankly, to have all the top teams 0:23:27.293 --> 0:23:33.613