1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,279 Speaker 1: The Prime Minister's well, it's a very good morning to you. 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Good morning Mike. How are you very well? Indeed, what 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: episode of Mobland are you up to? 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: I've finished watching episode nine and I haven't got to 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: the final, so I presume you have watched it, but 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: I mean, please don't spoil it for me, because I've 7 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: sort of got to watch it in fifteen minute. 8 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: But no, no, you'll be You'll be thoroughly enjoyed. As 9 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: a school out of ten team's the greatest program you 10 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: ever saw. 11 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I thought Day of the Jack all last year, 12 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: and I think Mobland this year, without doubt, best show. 13 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 2: And Tom Hardy and guy Ritchie Bartilla, who's awesome in 14 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: that shows. Pierce Brosna A yes, when you think about 15 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 2: him as the Urbane Bond and then just the character 16 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: that he's playing there as the Irish mob Boss was amazing, 17 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: and Helen are and fantastic, so now I atally love that. 18 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just anything Tom Hardy does is brilliant. 19 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: David Seymore's speech on Sunday, did you happen to see it? 20 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: I saw bits of it. Yeah, I thought was a 21 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: good speech. I agree with a lot of it. Was 22 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: very up to. 23 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: I thought it was uplifting and we need more of 24 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: that sort. 25 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: Of to We need yet we need to be elebrating success. 26 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: We need to be able to get people to get 27 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: on with stuff and people will a better get up 28 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: and go on positively ambition and be celebrating big time. 29 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: Can you explain the headline was you are seeking I 30 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: don't know if it's your just your government? You were 31 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: seeking advice on this run it straight? Who are you 32 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 1: seeking advice from? And what sort of advice you're looking 33 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: for and why it's a government problem. 34 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I mean, first and foremost, I mean, you know, 35 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 2: tragic events, but you know, as I said last week, 36 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 2: you know, adults have got to be take responsible for 37 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 2: their own behavior. And you've got a lot of people 38 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 2: medical fraternity please principles coming out saying look dumb idea. 39 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: And then you know, adults involved with the actual formal events, 40 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: you know, you know think about it as what I've said, 41 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: So I think Mark Mitchell is actually just doing a 42 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: very quick thing on the formal events, just to make 43 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: sure that that's all fully compliant and sortid as it 44 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 2: should be. But you know, there's there's not much you 45 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: know what, the government can't really pass a regulation or 46 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: a piece of legislation right to stop someone at a 47 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: twenty first birthday, you know, reenacting those events, right, So 48 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: I think, you know, got to be quite honest with 49 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: each other about this is about personal responsibility and people 50 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: taking charge of that. Mark's quite right to do a 51 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: quick sense of the formal events and make sure that 52 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: you know that's been run appropriately. 53 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: Speaking of behavior, we're talking earlier on in the program 54 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: about going or six hundred percent increase in formal warnings. 55 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: The good news, I suppose that there is good news 56 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: is that only two percent go to the eviction part 57 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: of it. The lawyer we talked to said she anticipated 58 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: somewhere between one thousand and fifteen hundred evictions were needed 59 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: to really tidy this mess up. So far, you've got 60 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: sixty three. Is are you going hard enough at this 61 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: or not? 62 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I think it's a good start. I'm open 63 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 2: to actually going harder to be honest. You know, we've 64 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: the interesting thing on the State House weight less is 65 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 2: it's gone like from twenty seven thousand down to nineteen thousand. 66 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: That's actually an amazing story over the time of our government. 67 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: But the beggar issue as putting consequences out there. Now 68 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 2: people understand the deal, which is it's a privilege to 69 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: be in a state house that's funded by your fellow taxpayer, 70 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: but we don't expect unruly behavior. And as we're found 71 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: with the sanctions, actually, when you do have a warning system, 72 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 2: when actually there are real consequences, when people are actually 73 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: going to get evicted, that's kind of important. I think 74 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: there's something like one thy five hundred people who actually 75 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: have been issued formal warnings now in the last or 76 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: so far this year, I think for memory, actually ten months, 77 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: I think it is. So you know, there's obviously a 78 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: pipeline of complaints and people that might be more people 79 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: coming out, but we will kick people out because the 80 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: deal has to be pretty simple. In His Zealand Rights 81 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: and Responsibilities, Yep, you get a right to a state 82 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: house if you're lucky enough to get one. It's funded 83 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: by your fellow tax payer to help you. But you 84 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: don't go and abuse your neighbors. It's unacceptable because we'll 85 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: give it to one of the other nineteen thousand people 86 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 2: on the wait list that deserve their shot at a home. 87 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: And this does I suppose dub tail into the job 88 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: seeker thing with the light system. Once you get to 89 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: read there are very few people on red. So in 90 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: other words, they get the warning. If you're serious about it, 91 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: then they pull their hidden. 92 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: Well, the key thing is it's changing behavior might because 93 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: you're actually saying to people there will be consequences. These 94 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 2: are the expectations, These are the obligations. This is the 95 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: right and the responsibility that the companies at and I 96 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: don't think the last government was clear about that at all. 97 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: They had two evictions in their last year in government. 98 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: You know, we've got sixty three here, so I mean, 99 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: I just think, you know, we're being very explicit with people, 100 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 2: whether it's job seeker. You know, folk, you expect you 101 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: to be looking for a job. We're not penalizing you 102 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: for not having one, but we are going to penalize 103 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: you if you don't shot up to the interviews and 104 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: don't have a resume, and don't engage with your case 105 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: manager and do what you need to do, which is 106 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 2: look for a job. So because you're ready to work. 107 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: So you know, we're just being clear about those expectations. 108 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: And I think that's having a real effect. People understand 109 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: it it's no different. 110 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: Sadly, you have to do it, but we have to. 111 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: We have to put rights and responsible back at the 112 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: heart of our social contract with each other. So we're 113 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: doing it here. We're doing it on well for obligations 114 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: as well. 115 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: The parents at school prosecuting them. I did wonder we 116 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: had seen more on Friday. I think it was. I 117 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: did wonder, you know, the sort of parent who doesn't 118 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: seem the kid to school. I don't know what you 119 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: gain from prosecution, but I guess that's the same sort 120 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: of message. If you go hard, presume they're going to 121 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: pull their finger out as well. 122 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 2: The same principle, exactly the same principle which has hang on. 123 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 2: The government's now put it one hundred and forty million 124 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: dollars into attendance services come and this budget you've got 125 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: schools now collecting weekly and daily data on it and 126 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: trying to engage with parents. And now you've got the 127 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: third actor, which is parents, and we've got to call 128 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: them to responsibility. If you can't get your kid to 129 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: a school, you are setting them up for a lifetime 130 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 2: of not realizing their potential. You know, and we know 131 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 2: there's a lot of high paying jobs out there that 132 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: want to come to New Zealand, but we won't get 133 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: them if we don't actually have our kids in school. 134 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: We're a first world. 135 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: Country, and yes, David and our government we've made some 136 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: good progress and lifting attendance, but still forty two percent 137 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 2: of kids don't go to school regularly. If they don't 138 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 2: go there ninety percent of the time, by the time 139 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: they get to sixteen, they've lost a year's worth of education. 140 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: So you know, frankly, our parents need do need to 141 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 2: be called to account. And you know it's not it's 142 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: compulsory education for a reason. It's not optional, so we 143 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: expect people to get their kids to school. 144 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: What I'm reading from Peters Winston in India, there's some 145 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: sort of FDA breakthrough, is there? 146 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: It's not actually what he means by that is the 147 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: breakthroughs on the fact that we're actually at the table negotiating. 148 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: If you think about where we were eighteen months ago, 149 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: non existent relationship two countries that really didn't have any 150 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: store of connection over that previous six years at all. 151 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 2: In fact, trade went backwards, and now we've built that 152 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: relationship back. We've got good top to top engagement with 153 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: Winston's counterpart, Ja Shunka and him Todd and Goyel me 154 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 2: and Mody and Judith with her defense counterpart. We've had 155 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: really good engagement there. So I think that's great. You know, 156 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: he's up there and he's recognizing that there is a 157 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 2: real change in the relationship, which is fantastic. 158 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: Speaking of Judith, ha is she in Singapore at the 159 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: moment at this defense meeting or no? 160 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, Judith's been up at what's called the Shangri La 161 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: Defense Meeting. It's an annual event where all the defense 162 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 2: ministers of the world come together, and so she's been 163 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: up there. 164 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: Which is that why she's talking about the Golden Dome. 165 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it just seemed old that the 166 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: New Zealand minister was suddenly endorsing the Golden Dome for 167 00:06:59,000 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: Trump in America. 168 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it would to be coming from media talking about 169 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: the America that basically there's a series of speeches from 170 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: different defense ministers and it would have been a reaction 171 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: to hegcess remarks around the Golden Dome. And obviously, you 172 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: know she's a saying, look, you know that's a defense 173 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: mechanism people. You know that the American wouldn't build if 174 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: they didn't think there was a need for them to 175 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: defend themselves. It is something that Trump campaigned on from 176 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: memory as well. But I think the thing for her 177 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: is that you know, as they're actually you know, security 178 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 2: and commercial outcomer is potentially for our fledgling defense industry. 179 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: But let's see. 180 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: What did interest me is Miles came back. I think 181 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: whether he came back or spoke from Singapore, I can't 182 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: remember anyway, So he meets excess is five percent please 183 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: for defense spending? Miles seems to indicate he's keen Elbanezi 184 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: over the weekend goes, we're going to make our own 185 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: policy up, thank you very much. So there's an interesting 186 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: dynamic there. But is the pressure on and I know 187 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: what we've done and you know, don't tell me what 188 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: we've just in the budget? I get that, But is 189 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: there pressure on for us to do even more and 190 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: head towards five percent? Is all of this, especially given 191 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: what Star has said overnight, is this ye where we're heading? 192 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we want to keep stepping it up, 193 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 2: but I mean, in our conversation with the Americans, you know, 194 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: they were really you know, they were really comfortable with 195 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: our step up and where we've come from and where 196 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: we're trying to get to. I think everybody recognizes that 197 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: we've had a pretty degraded set of investments over a 198 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: number of years and as a result, we've had not 199 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: been doing enough and so they were just very pleased 200 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: to see us step up when we announced it. The 201 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: same with the Australian. So you know, we're on our 202 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 2: pathway to get to two percent, which is a good 203 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: starting point and it's a good contribution. But you know, 204 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: obviously we've got to keep an eye on it and 205 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 2: we've got to be prepared to spend more if we 206 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 2: need to. But for now, and what we've done is 207 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: we've got a plan, to be honest, Mike, that is 208 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 2: actually a designed to do that when the economy gets better, 209 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: we've got an ability to more money into the plan 210 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: and to accelerate it, particularly after four years or so, 211 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: once we've got some stuff and personnel in place. But 212 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: it's designed for that reason that we can I want 213 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 2: to make sure we we're doing the right stuff rather 214 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: than just the spin side of things, and the spin 215 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 2: will increase as we can do better. 216 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: Miles also said that China need to explain themselves as 217 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: to what he's called this extraordinary build up in the region. 218 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: Is that just him looking for a headline or are 219 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: we all collectively in this part of the world now 220 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: worried about this extraordinary build up of China. 221 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I can't speak for him or the 222 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 2: Australian government. I mean, all I can say is what 223 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: I've been saying is that, you know, we just see 224 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 2: a more contested world for sure. 225 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: You've got a big build up. 226 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: Of militaries from China from other countries as well, and 227 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: you know, we're just acknowledging that we've got to play 228 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 2: our part. You know, we've got our own, independent from 229 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: policy national interests, we keep acting and part of it 230 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 2: is making sure that we're doing our bit on security. 231 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: All right, appreciate your time as always, crystalher luxon Prime Minister. 232 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to 233 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: news Talks. 234 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast 235 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: on iHeartRadio.