1 00:00:09,093 --> 00:00:11,972 Speaker 1: You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed be 2 00:00:12,373 --> 00:00:16,173 Speaker 1: follow this and our Wide Ranger podcasts now on iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:16,613 --> 00:00:18,253 Speaker 2: Hello, Great New Zealand, and welcome to Matt and Tyler 4 00:00:18,253 --> 00:00:26,212 Speaker 2: Full Show Podcast number twoy five for the eleventh of February. 5 00:00:26,692 --> 00:00:29,333 Speaker 2: It's a Wednesday, and it's the year is twenty twenty six, 6 00:00:29,573 --> 00:00:31,452 Speaker 2: and today we didn't get to the hitchharking topic, but 7 00:00:31,453 --> 00:00:32,613 Speaker 2: I want to do it tomorrow because that'd be a 8 00:00:32,613 --> 00:00:32,893 Speaker 2: good one. 9 00:00:32,973 --> 00:00:35,333 Speaker 3: Yep, looking forward to that. But we had a great 10 00:00:35,453 --> 00:00:38,093 Speaker 3: chat about the benefits of YouTube. 11 00:00:38,053 --> 00:00:42,573 Speaker 2: And then things got scandalous in the last hour with 12 00:00:43,573 --> 00:00:49,693 Speaker 2: cheating the dirty Norwegian bronze meddling by the Laite Cheetah. 13 00:00:49,853 --> 00:00:54,413 Speaker 3: Yeah, cry baby. Great discussion, download, subscribe and give us 14 00:00:54,413 --> 00:00:55,173 Speaker 3: a review. 15 00:00:55,133 --> 00:00:57,053 Speaker 2: Eron Give Them Taste Kenvy Symbasi. Will you listen to 16 00:00:57,093 --> 00:00:57,612 Speaker 2: the pot all right? 17 00:00:57,613 --> 00:00:57,813 Speaker 4: Bye? 18 00:00:57,893 --> 00:00:59,573 Speaker 3: Love you, Big. 19 00:00:59,333 --> 00:01:04,253 Speaker 1: Stories, the leak issues, the big trends and everything in between. 20 00:01:04,613 --> 00:01:07,533 Speaker 1: Kid's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoon. 21 00:01:07,173 --> 00:01:10,613 Speaker 5: Squiz Gooder News Talk said, it's very. 22 00:01:10,453 --> 00:01:13,253 Speaker 3: Good afternoon to you. Welcome and to Wednesday Show. Great 23 00:01:13,292 --> 00:01:16,573 Speaker 3: to have your with us, as always, Get a match, Get. 24 00:01:16,413 --> 00:01:20,053 Speaker 2: A Tyler, Get everyone thanks for tuning in. Every morning 25 00:01:20,853 --> 00:01:22,893 Speaker 2: I get up and the first thing I do is 26 00:01:22,973 --> 00:01:25,212 Speaker 2: play my New York Times games on my New York 27 00:01:25,292 --> 00:01:26,212 Speaker 2: Times Games. 28 00:01:25,973 --> 00:01:27,333 Speaker 3: App nice, good start for the day. 29 00:01:27,453 --> 00:01:31,133 Speaker 2: So these are the games I play. Connections, Yep, Strands 30 00:01:31,453 --> 00:01:34,212 Speaker 2: and the Mini the Money. The trick with the Mini 31 00:01:34,212 --> 00:01:36,293 Speaker 2: is you got to do it under a minute. Strands, 32 00:01:36,333 --> 00:01:38,012 Speaker 2: you've got to do it without taking any hints. And 33 00:01:38,013 --> 00:01:41,693 Speaker 2: you're trying and get the span gram first. YEP and Connections, 34 00:01:41,733 --> 00:01:43,773 Speaker 2: well you try and get the hard one first. 35 00:01:43,773 --> 00:01:45,012 Speaker 3: What about with no mistakes? 36 00:01:45,453 --> 00:01:49,013 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, with no mistakes right, and Strands has been 37 00:01:49,013 --> 00:01:53,253 Speaker 2: great lately, the Mini fantastic. I think a new insane 38 00:01:53,253 --> 00:01:56,933 Speaker 2: person has taken over Connections. They had symbols in the weekend. 39 00:01:56,973 --> 00:01:58,813 Speaker 3: Oh no, I hate it when they do that. 40 00:01:59,093 --> 00:02:00,973 Speaker 2: Don't do the symbol that I don't go to Connections 41 00:02:00,973 --> 00:02:01,493 Speaker 2: for your symbol. 42 00:02:01,613 --> 00:02:03,093 Speaker 3: No, too tricky. 43 00:02:03,333 --> 00:02:06,133 Speaker 2: And today they have I don't want to give it 44 00:02:06,173 --> 00:02:08,093 Speaker 2: away because you know it means so much to a 45 00:02:08,133 --> 00:02:10,933 Speaker 2: lot of people. But in Connections they had a word 46 00:02:12,173 --> 00:02:16,412 Speaker 2: that in the four that I've never heard and I 47 00:02:16,413 --> 00:02:18,773 Speaker 2: don't think anyone's ever used in the context that it 48 00:02:18,813 --> 00:02:22,453 Speaker 2: connects with the other three words in that particular yellow 49 00:02:24,133 --> 00:02:27,013 Speaker 2: line of four. Okay, okay, did you have you done 50 00:02:27,013 --> 00:02:27,333 Speaker 2: it today? 51 00:02:27,373 --> 00:02:28,773 Speaker 3: I haven't. No, I've just loaded it up. 52 00:02:29,093 --> 00:02:32,333 Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's amazing how much that can affect your 53 00:02:32,333 --> 00:02:34,533 Speaker 2: life when I want to look into it. And the 54 00:02:34,532 --> 00:02:36,493 Speaker 2: other thing that triggers me about Connections is where you 55 00:02:36,573 --> 00:02:39,173 Speaker 2: go and see the difficulty of it once you've finished, 56 00:02:39,173 --> 00:02:41,413 Speaker 2: and it says that was a two out of five. No, 57 00:02:41,493 --> 00:02:43,813 Speaker 2: it really how do you analyze that? 58 00:02:43,893 --> 00:02:45,732 Speaker 3: I'm going to point out the word that I think 59 00:02:45,733 --> 00:02:48,133 Speaker 3: it is so here it is just on my screen here, 60 00:02:48,613 --> 00:02:51,453 Speaker 3: that first one on the yellow exactly what the hell that? 61 00:02:51,933 --> 00:02:54,053 Speaker 3: It does? Not mean that thing? No, you have to 62 00:02:54,053 --> 00:02:56,653 Speaker 3: have the whole phraseology in there to make it make sense. 63 00:02:56,693 --> 00:02:59,093 Speaker 2: So I think Connections has recently, over the last week 64 00:02:59,133 --> 00:03:03,132 Speaker 2: been taken over by an insane, evil, mad person that's 65 00:03:03,173 --> 00:03:05,133 Speaker 2: decided to throw the odd word in there. There aren't 66 00:03:05,173 --> 00:03:09,773 Speaker 2: part of anything tregging it's AI. Well maybe yeah, maybe 67 00:03:09,773 --> 00:03:12,292 Speaker 2: it's AI just saying I'm going to screw with humanity 68 00:03:12,733 --> 00:03:14,333 Speaker 2: through the beloved Connections app. 69 00:03:14,413 --> 00:03:14,693 Speaker 6: Yeah. 70 00:03:14,693 --> 00:03:18,132 Speaker 2: And the next time there is Connections as they put 71 00:03:18,213 --> 00:03:20,613 Speaker 2: up symbols instead of words, I'm going to fly to 72 00:03:20,613 --> 00:03:22,253 Speaker 2: New York. I'm going to slap everyone at The New 73 00:03:22,333 --> 00:03:23,252 Speaker 2: York Times in the face. 74 00:03:23,972 --> 00:03:24,532 Speaker 3: They deserve it. 75 00:03:24,573 --> 00:03:25,813 Speaker 2: I'll taser everyone involved. 76 00:03:25,972 --> 00:03:26,453 Speaker 3: Very good. 77 00:03:26,493 --> 00:03:27,933 Speaker 2: I don't go there for symbols. 78 00:03:28,093 --> 00:03:28,693 Speaker 6: We go there. 79 00:03:28,853 --> 00:03:30,733 Speaker 2: We go there for connections between words. 80 00:03:30,773 --> 00:03:33,893 Speaker 3: New York Times do better. Yeah, right on to today's show. 81 00:03:33,933 --> 00:03:35,613 Speaker 3: After three o'clock, we want to have a chat about 82 00:03:35,613 --> 00:03:40,093 Speaker 3: this extraordinary post win interview from this Norwegian Olympic biathlete. 83 00:03:40,533 --> 00:03:42,933 Speaker 3: So the twenty eight year old is named Stirler lay Greed. 84 00:03:43,493 --> 00:03:45,973 Speaker 3: He won his first individual Olympic medal, but he admitted 85 00:03:45,973 --> 00:03:48,333 Speaker 3: straight after that win that he had an affair three 86 00:03:48,333 --> 00:03:50,493 Speaker 3: months ago that he called his biggest mistake. He's just 87 00:03:50,533 --> 00:03:52,653 Speaker 3: a little bit of what he said to the reporter 88 00:03:52,693 --> 00:03:55,093 Speaker 3: and we'll play out the audio after three. He said, 89 00:03:55,133 --> 00:03:56,693 Speaker 3: it's been the worst week of my life since he 90 00:03:56,733 --> 00:04:01,333 Speaker 3: told his girlfriend of six months about the affair. There's someone, 91 00:04:01,413 --> 00:04:03,053 Speaker 3: he said, I wanted to share it with who might 92 00:04:03,093 --> 00:04:05,213 Speaker 3: not be watching. Six months ago, I met the love 93 00:04:05,213 --> 00:04:07,013 Speaker 3: of my life, the most beautiful and kindest person in 94 00:04:07,013 --> 00:04:08,973 Speaker 3: the world. Three months ago, I made the bug's mistake 95 00:04:09,253 --> 00:04:11,293 Speaker 3: and cheated on her. I had the gold medal in 96 00:04:11,453 --> 00:04:15,533 Speaker 3: life and I've lost it. 97 00:04:15,573 --> 00:04:18,693 Speaker 2: For a start, let's go into this more for a start, 98 00:04:18,973 --> 00:04:20,733 Speaker 2: Is it really a girlfriend if you've only been going 99 00:04:20,773 --> 00:04:23,213 Speaker 2: out for six months? I mean that's just the start 100 00:04:23,213 --> 00:04:23,773 Speaker 2: of relationship. 101 00:04:24,013 --> 00:04:25,853 Speaker 3: Yeah, good, good question to answer answers. 102 00:04:26,053 --> 00:04:30,133 Speaker 2: Second is admitting to everyone that you cheated on your partner. 103 00:04:30,693 --> 00:04:34,373 Speaker 2: A you know, just just say is that? Does that 104 00:04:34,413 --> 00:04:36,973 Speaker 2: going to help? I mean, just say that you love it. 105 00:04:37,293 --> 00:04:38,893 Speaker 3: Straight off the bed. I think that's a it's a 106 00:04:38,893 --> 00:04:39,533 Speaker 3: poor strategy. 107 00:04:39,613 --> 00:04:42,253 Speaker 2: I think this guy's a bunny boiler. But the question 108 00:04:42,293 --> 00:04:44,373 Speaker 2: we're going to ask, is there any way back from cheating? 109 00:04:44,493 --> 00:04:45,093 Speaker 3: Yeah? 110 00:04:45,173 --> 00:04:46,653 Speaker 2: How do you? How do you if you've cheated on 111 00:04:46,693 --> 00:04:48,333 Speaker 2: a partner, A partner's cheat on you, what can they 112 00:04:48,333 --> 00:04:48,893 Speaker 2: do to come back? 113 00:04:49,013 --> 00:04:49,213 Speaker 6: Yep? 114 00:04:49,413 --> 00:04:50,333 Speaker 2: Is there any way out of it? 115 00:04:50,653 --> 00:04:50,973 Speaker 4: I don't. 116 00:04:50,973 --> 00:04:52,933 Speaker 2: I don't think winning a bronze medal. Maybe when a 117 00:04:52,933 --> 00:04:54,733 Speaker 2: gold medal and you've got a chance. But some bronze 118 00:04:54,773 --> 00:04:58,253 Speaker 2: medal loser coming through and coming in third, coming and 119 00:04:58,373 --> 00:05:01,493 Speaker 2: coming in third and telling his funner of six months 120 00:05:01,573 --> 00:05:03,053 Speaker 2: they were only going out for three months when he 121 00:05:03,133 --> 00:05:06,173 Speaker 2: cheated on her, dirty dog basically one night stand. 122 00:05:06,253 --> 00:05:08,053 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, there's got to be a good chet 123 00:05:08,093 --> 00:05:10,853 Speaker 3: after three o'clock, after two o'clock, A nice story about 124 00:05:10,853 --> 00:05:14,053 Speaker 3: American tourists called Django Levon. He's in the country and 125 00:05:14,093 --> 00:05:17,333 Speaker 3: he's hit shiking everywhere, sharing his journey with his social 126 00:05:17,373 --> 00:05:21,133 Speaker 3: media followers. So he hitchhiked through Norway and he said 127 00:05:21,213 --> 00:05:23,573 Speaker 3: he was very unsuccessful with that. He said, I would 128 00:05:23,573 --> 00:05:25,653 Speaker 3: go six hours eight hours without a ride. And I 129 00:05:25,693 --> 00:05:28,853 Speaker 3: also hitchhike through Vietnam. That was an interesting experience as well. 130 00:05:28,893 --> 00:05:32,653 Speaker 3: Definitely not very secure, but in comparison, hitchhiking in New Zealand, 131 00:05:32,653 --> 00:05:35,493 Speaker 3: he says, almost feels like a fairy tale. He went 132 00:05:35,533 --> 00:05:36,973 Speaker 3: on to say, I think there were only two times 133 00:05:36,973 --> 00:05:38,693 Speaker 3: where I had to wait more than forty five minutes, 134 00:05:38,733 --> 00:05:41,093 Speaker 3: and usually I was picked up within ten cars, which 135 00:05:41,093 --> 00:05:41,773 Speaker 3: is quite crazy. 136 00:05:41,973 --> 00:05:45,133 Speaker 2: That is insane hitchhiking. I didn't know it was still 137 00:05:45,173 --> 00:05:46,733 Speaker 2: a thing. I used to hitchhike a lot when I 138 00:05:46,813 --> 00:05:49,653 Speaker 2: was much younger and didn't have the kind of money 139 00:05:49,653 --> 00:05:52,613 Speaker 2: that you needed to go between cities. Yep, and you 140 00:05:52,653 --> 00:05:54,733 Speaker 2: know you could. You know, I'd end up on the 141 00:05:54,773 --> 00:05:56,453 Speaker 2: road for a long a long time, but you would 142 00:05:56,453 --> 00:05:58,453 Speaker 2: see other hitchhikers. I don't see that many hitchhikers now. 143 00:05:58,453 --> 00:05:59,813 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think people have heard too many 144 00:05:59,813 --> 00:06:02,013 Speaker 2: horror stories. I don't know if people are picking up hitchhikers, 145 00:06:02,413 --> 00:06:04,493 Speaker 2: and I don't know if people feel like they can 146 00:06:04,573 --> 00:06:08,093 Speaker 2: go hitchhiking safely anymore. So is it still a thing? 147 00:06:08,373 --> 00:06:11,013 Speaker 2: Are you picking people up? Are you getting out? There 148 00:06:11,093 --> 00:06:13,293 Speaker 2: is still a viable way to go into city? 149 00:06:13,413 --> 00:06:14,613 Speaker 3: Yeah? 150 00:06:15,013 --> 00:06:19,293 Speaker 2: I mean, my son's eighteen now. When I was eighteen, 151 00:06:19,733 --> 00:06:21,853 Speaker 2: I was hitching from Dunedin to christ It hitched it 152 00:06:21,893 --> 00:06:22,933 Speaker 2: all the way to now. So I hitched to all 153 00:06:22,933 --> 00:06:24,573 Speaker 2: out to Auckland a couple of times in back a 154 00:06:24,613 --> 00:06:27,373 Speaker 2: brave man. But if my son said he was going 155 00:06:27,413 --> 00:06:29,253 Speaker 2: to do that now, I'd go, No, you're not. 156 00:06:29,213 --> 00:06:32,013 Speaker 3: You're crazy. I'll buy you the ipea exactly. That is 157 00:06:32,053 --> 00:06:34,013 Speaker 3: after two o'clock. But right now, let's have a chat 158 00:06:34,013 --> 00:06:36,973 Speaker 3: about this. YouTube's legal team has insisted that the Google 159 00:06:37,013 --> 00:06:40,733 Speaker 3: owned video platform was not intentionally addictive or even technically 160 00:06:40,773 --> 00:06:42,333 Speaker 3: social media. This is on the second day of a 161 00:06:42,373 --> 00:06:46,853 Speaker 3: landmark US trial targeting the two tech giants YouTube and Meta. 162 00:06:46,933 --> 00:06:50,053 Speaker 3: So this all started on the allegations that a twenty 163 00:06:50,093 --> 00:06:52,613 Speaker 3: year old woman suffered severe mental harm because she became 164 00:06:52,893 --> 00:06:57,013 Speaker 3: addicted to social media as a child. So the lawyers 165 00:06:57,333 --> 00:06:59,653 Speaker 3: have been arguing their cases and on the YouTube side 166 00:06:59,653 --> 00:07:01,693 Speaker 3: of things and the Google side of things. Their lawyer 167 00:07:01,973 --> 00:07:05,093 Speaker 3: told the court YouTuber is not social media. When it's 168 00:07:05,133 --> 00:07:08,053 Speaker 3: not social media and it's not addiction, how can we 169 00:07:08,053 --> 00:07:10,693 Speaker 3: be long for any harm this young woman faced. 170 00:07:11,173 --> 00:07:13,853 Speaker 2: I think they might have a slight point there. With YouTube, 171 00:07:13,933 --> 00:07:16,053 Speaker 2: I think it is better than the other ones. I 172 00:07:16,133 --> 00:07:19,573 Speaker 2: think that YouTube provides a service. And there's good and 173 00:07:19,613 --> 00:07:22,693 Speaker 2: bad and everything, absolutely good and bad in everything. And 174 00:07:22,733 --> 00:07:24,973 Speaker 2: there is definitely a downside to YouTube. And there's people 175 00:07:25,053 --> 00:07:27,693 Speaker 2: that get pulled down rabbit holes, and there are people 176 00:07:27,693 --> 00:07:31,293 Speaker 2: that waste their life just you know, because the next 177 00:07:31,373 --> 00:07:34,533 Speaker 2: video comes up. But when the last video finishes, three 178 00:07:34,613 --> 00:07:36,733 Speaker 2: new ones come up, and maybe the next one becomes 179 00:07:36,773 --> 00:07:38,933 Speaker 2: more enraging and it keeps you engaged or whatever. 180 00:07:39,293 --> 00:07:40,373 Speaker 7: But I. 181 00:07:42,093 --> 00:07:46,013 Speaker 2: Have so many interesting physics videos that I watched and 182 00:07:46,053 --> 00:07:49,853 Speaker 2: people that I follow history, I learn how to do things. 183 00:07:49,893 --> 00:07:53,693 Speaker 2: I think every day I learn something interesting on YouTube. 184 00:07:53,733 --> 00:07:55,573 Speaker 2: And my kids watch a lot of YouTube, and I 185 00:07:55,573 --> 00:07:58,533 Speaker 2: think that they've been educated by YouTube in quite a 186 00:07:58,893 --> 00:08:03,893 Speaker 2: quite a meaningful way. I think I think TikTok is 187 00:08:03,933 --> 00:08:06,653 Speaker 2: bad for you, no doubt, And I think YouTube shorts 188 00:08:06,693 --> 00:08:08,173 Speaker 2: is bad for you. And I understand TikTok is now 189 00:08:08,213 --> 00:08:11,453 Speaker 2: allowing longer videos, but I think TikTok's just disgusting and 190 00:08:11,933 --> 00:08:13,533 Speaker 2: you know, get off it as soon as you can. 191 00:08:13,613 --> 00:08:17,173 Speaker 2: That's revolting it. It's designed to be addictive, primarily Instagram 192 00:08:17,293 --> 00:08:21,293 Speaker 2: Vergin on that. Yeah, copy you know, TV just tradistrial 193 00:08:21,493 --> 00:08:24,133 Speaker 2: terrestrial TV was designed to be addictive. Oh yeah, I 194 00:08:24,133 --> 00:08:26,093 Speaker 2: mean they've been trying to keep you on longest time. 195 00:08:26,093 --> 00:08:27,373 Speaker 2: When I was a kid, I'd come home from school, 196 00:08:27,373 --> 00:08:31,013 Speaker 2: I watch, you know, three forty five Live into Something 197 00:08:31,013 --> 00:08:32,853 Speaker 2: Out and next thing you know, I'm watching the fifty 198 00:08:32,893 --> 00:08:36,533 Speaker 2: eight three run of mash. Then I'm watching the Cheers, 199 00:08:36,573 --> 00:08:39,293 Speaker 2: after that punishing news whatever it was. After the news, 200 00:08:39,373 --> 00:08:43,013 Speaker 2: then the bill, yeap, homesy, homesy, then the bill just 201 00:08:43,333 --> 00:08:46,053 Speaker 2: you know, And it was designed to keep you on 202 00:08:46,093 --> 00:08:46,453 Speaker 2: all night. 203 00:08:47,173 --> 00:08:47,493 Speaker 3: Yeah. 204 00:08:47,533 --> 00:08:50,133 Speaker 2: And so the idea that it's new for people just 205 00:08:50,173 --> 00:08:52,933 Speaker 2: to sit there in front of brain RT is I 206 00:08:52,973 --> 00:08:55,213 Speaker 2: just don't think that's true. Yeah. I think we used 207 00:08:55,252 --> 00:08:57,252 Speaker 2: to just watch every ad. That's why people of a 208 00:08:57,293 --> 00:09:01,653 Speaker 2: certain age can repeat can sing ads from the nineties. 209 00:09:01,252 --> 00:09:03,453 Speaker 3: That was huge, Yeah, and from the eighties entertainment in 210 00:09:03,453 --> 00:09:07,173 Speaker 3: itself because it was drilled into your skull, right, Yeah, exactly, so. 211 00:09:07,333 --> 00:09:10,733 Speaker 2: Every plant trying to be addictive, right. But I think 212 00:09:10,773 --> 00:09:13,293 Speaker 2: out of all the social media, I think I think 213 00:09:13,333 --> 00:09:16,492 Speaker 2: YouTube has the most functionality in terms of education, and 214 00:09:16,813 --> 00:09:18,093 Speaker 2: I think it's the best one for kids. 215 00:09:18,093 --> 00:09:21,013 Speaker 3: By miles, just on the social media argument, I actually 216 00:09:21,053 --> 00:09:23,773 Speaker 3: while I was just thinking about that, I agree, because yes, 217 00:09:24,132 --> 00:09:27,013 Speaker 3: there's social aspects to it, but I think for most 218 00:09:27,012 --> 00:09:29,573 Speaker 3: people it's a lot easier to stay off it if 219 00:09:29,612 --> 00:09:33,093 Speaker 3: you want to stay offline rather than Facebook or Instagram, 220 00:09:33,132 --> 00:09:36,573 Speaker 3: because your friends aren't associated with it. You know, Facebook 221 00:09:36,653 --> 00:09:39,052 Speaker 3: is designed around keeping into contact with your friends and 222 00:09:39,093 --> 00:09:40,933 Speaker 3: seeing what your friends are doing and staying in contact 223 00:09:40,933 --> 00:09:43,852 Speaker 3: with the family. YouTube is a very different model to that. 224 00:09:44,213 --> 00:09:47,813 Speaker 3: It is, incess a essence, a platform on delivering video 225 00:09:47,933 --> 00:09:50,653 Speaker 3: content to people, whether it be educational or whatever. But 226 00:09:50,773 --> 00:09:52,853 Speaker 3: can you really call that social media if it's not 227 00:09:53,053 --> 00:09:56,052 Speaker 3: designed to stay in touch with people that you know? 228 00:09:56,333 --> 00:09:58,893 Speaker 3: Instagram's very different. Instagram is the same thing. Of course, 229 00:09:58,973 --> 00:10:02,493 Speaker 3: you're seeing videos that are presented by content creators, but 230 00:10:02,533 --> 00:10:05,573 Speaker 3: you'll also have friends and followers, same with TikTok. 231 00:10:05,732 --> 00:10:09,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, so YouTube there's comments, absolutely, But I think the 232 00:10:09,813 --> 00:10:12,933 Speaker 2: thing that why people go after YouTube. And you know 233 00:10:12,973 --> 00:10:15,733 Speaker 2: traditional media goes so hard out of YouTube is because 234 00:10:15,773 --> 00:10:18,813 Speaker 2: their model is unbeatable. So millions of people around the 235 00:10:18,852 --> 00:10:22,252 Speaker 2: world try their hand at it and for no money yep. 236 00:10:22,372 --> 00:10:24,853 Speaker 2: As opposed to a television show channel. You have to 237 00:10:24,852 --> 00:10:26,533 Speaker 2: pay for the pilot and see if people like it, 238 00:10:26,612 --> 00:10:27,293 Speaker 2: put it out there. 239 00:10:27,252 --> 00:10:27,693 Speaker 3: High risk. 240 00:10:27,973 --> 00:10:30,293 Speaker 2: Millions of people do it. The ones that people like 241 00:10:30,413 --> 00:10:32,852 Speaker 2: rise to the top and that's when they start paying them, right. Yeah, 242 00:10:33,093 --> 00:10:35,532 Speaker 2: So it's and that's why more people watch YouTube in 243 00:10:35,612 --> 00:10:40,932 Speaker 2: New Zealand than watch TV. Right, So look at this. 244 00:10:40,933 --> 00:10:44,973 Speaker 2: This is just some stats from from twenty twenty four. 245 00:10:45,413 --> 00:10:48,813 Speaker 2: The most used media platform this is just for children 246 00:10:48,933 --> 00:10:53,252 Speaker 2: is YouTube. Sixty nine percent use YouTube or YouTube kids 247 00:10:53,252 --> 00:10:56,773 Speaker 2: on a daily basis. Netflix is next thirty six percent, 248 00:10:57,053 --> 00:11:01,772 Speaker 2: then Disney plus sixteen percent, traditional TV viewing and live 249 00:11:01,933 --> 00:11:05,813 Speaker 2: free to AIRTV now fourteen percent daily reach on demand 250 00:11:05,813 --> 00:11:08,693 Speaker 2: free to air services holding steady at twelve percent. So 251 00:11:08,732 --> 00:11:12,173 Speaker 2: sixty nine percent of children are watching YouTube. 252 00:11:12,213 --> 00:11:14,933 Speaker 3: That is talent, isn't it. They're clearly the model that 253 00:11:14,973 --> 00:11:15,893 Speaker 3: I've got is unbeatable. 254 00:11:15,933 --> 00:11:19,772 Speaker 2: So why do you think that there's constantly traditional media 255 00:11:19,813 --> 00:11:20,653 Speaker 2: having a go at YouTube? 256 00:11:20,693 --> 00:11:20,852 Speaker 8: Yeah? 257 00:11:20,852 --> 00:11:22,693 Speaker 3: I wonder, Oh e one hundred and eighty ten eighty 258 00:11:22,773 --> 00:11:24,093 Speaker 3: is the number to cool. Love to hear from you 259 00:11:24,132 --> 00:11:27,253 Speaker 3: if you're a regular YouTube user. But also do you 260 00:11:27,372 --> 00:11:30,172 Speaker 3: think YouTube is a neck? Good? Overall? 261 00:11:31,453 --> 00:11:33,653 Speaker 2: Agree with this. This text says, isn't substack the best 262 00:11:33,693 --> 00:11:36,453 Speaker 2: social media platform? Substack stack is good? I think it 263 00:11:36,492 --> 00:11:38,413 Speaker 2: would go. TikTok's the worst. 264 00:11:38,573 --> 00:11:39,973 Speaker 3: Yep, it's pure brain rot. 265 00:11:40,173 --> 00:11:42,573 Speaker 2: They basically you get dumber bybe even having the app 266 00:11:42,612 --> 00:11:43,132 Speaker 2: on your phone. 267 00:11:43,453 --> 00:11:43,773 Speaker 3: Yep. 268 00:11:45,293 --> 00:11:47,453 Speaker 2: Then probably read it as the second worst after that. 269 00:11:47,492 --> 00:11:49,012 Speaker 3: Okay, then Instagram. 270 00:11:49,293 --> 00:11:51,693 Speaker 2: Then probably Instagram, yeah, because that Instagram just exists to 271 00:11:51,693 --> 00:11:53,093 Speaker 2: make people feel bad about themselves. 272 00:11:53,173 --> 00:11:53,413 Speaker 9: Yep. 273 00:11:53,492 --> 00:11:55,612 Speaker 2: Then Facebook, Facebook, yeah, yep. 274 00:11:55,813 --> 00:11:58,573 Speaker 3: Then oh, it's as a close tie between substack and 275 00:11:58,612 --> 00:11:59,533 Speaker 3: YouTube yeap. 276 00:11:59,653 --> 00:11:59,853 Speaker 10: Yep. 277 00:12:00,252 --> 00:12:04,012 Speaker 2: X is probably in there somewhere yep, yeap. I mean 278 00:12:04,413 --> 00:12:06,253 Speaker 2: and look, just to be cure clear, I agree with 279 00:12:06,293 --> 00:12:08,492 Speaker 2: this text as well. The algorithm for YouTube. Sure, it's 280 00:12:08,492 --> 00:12:12,013 Speaker 2: as bad. Yeah, it's like reels. So I put TikTok, 281 00:12:13,213 --> 00:12:16,973 Speaker 2: Instagram reels, and YouTube shorts all in that same trying 282 00:12:17,012 --> 00:12:21,173 Speaker 2: to erase your brain slop category every time you see 283 00:12:21,213 --> 00:12:23,853 Speaker 2: some knob in a car, simplifying a complex issue into 284 00:12:23,892 --> 00:12:30,012 Speaker 2: sixty seconds of absolute bollocks, which is generally outright misleading 285 00:12:30,053 --> 00:12:33,492 Speaker 2: for engagement. Anytime you see someone that's presenting their thing 286 00:12:33,612 --> 00:12:37,573 Speaker 2: from behind the wheel of their car, it's always rubbish. 287 00:12:37,612 --> 00:12:39,613 Speaker 3: Tell tale sign on. One hundred and eighty ten eighty 288 00:12:39,693 --> 00:12:41,933 Speaker 3: is the number to call. How often do you use YouTube? 289 00:12:42,012 --> 00:12:43,493 Speaker 3: And do you think it is a net good for 290 00:12:43,612 --> 00:12:46,372 Speaker 3: society over the other so called social media? Nine two 291 00:12:46,453 --> 00:12:49,293 Speaker 3: nine two z et techspecknaum. It is eighteen past one. 292 00:12:50,012 --> 00:12:53,532 Speaker 1: The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and 293 00:12:53,773 --> 00:12:54,732 Speaker 1: everything in between. 294 00:12:54,933 --> 00:12:58,292 Speaker 5: Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used talks that'd. 295 00:12:58,093 --> 00:13:01,652 Speaker 3: Be twenty past one, and we are talking about YouTube 296 00:13:01,693 --> 00:13:05,213 Speaker 3: and lights of a YouTube being and a landmark court 297 00:13:05,252 --> 00:13:07,892 Speaker 3: case in the US. They are arguing that they're not 298 00:13:07,892 --> 00:13:10,612 Speaker 3: addictive and they are not even social media. But the 299 00:13:10,653 --> 00:13:12,413 Speaker 3: question we've got for you is how often do you 300 00:13:12,533 --> 00:13:14,733 Speaker 3: use the likes of YouTube? And is it a net 301 00:13:14,813 --> 00:13:17,252 Speaker 3: good when you consider the content it has versus other 302 00:13:17,293 --> 00:13:18,932 Speaker 3: social media? Oh, one hundred and eight ten eighty is 303 00:13:18,933 --> 00:13:19,533 Speaker 3: the number to call. 304 00:13:20,132 --> 00:13:23,133 Speaker 2: This says, substack is full of misinformation and YouTube has 305 00:13:23,213 --> 00:13:26,933 Speaker 2: proven where my kids rebuild a car engine using YouTube? 306 00:13:27,053 --> 00:13:29,412 Speaker 2: See that, I mean, that's the thing that's good and bad. Right, 307 00:13:29,653 --> 00:13:32,372 Speaker 2: And I think on substack, right, you can you read 308 00:13:32,453 --> 00:13:35,173 Speaker 2: a lot of from someone on substack and then you 309 00:13:35,173 --> 00:13:36,973 Speaker 2: can work out whether they're full of crap or not. 310 00:13:37,413 --> 00:13:39,613 Speaker 2: Sixty seconds with some knob behind the wheel of the 311 00:13:39,653 --> 00:13:43,173 Speaker 2: car making a video that's just designed to rot your brain, yeah, 312 00:13:43,213 --> 00:13:45,652 Speaker 2: but substack is not designed to rot your brain. And 313 00:13:46,773 --> 00:13:50,893 Speaker 2: YouTube has functionality. It educates people absolutely. I think it's great. 314 00:13:51,012 --> 00:13:53,052 Speaker 3: Good text, Dallas. 315 00:13:54,053 --> 00:13:55,053 Speaker 2: How are you this afternoon? 316 00:13:55,973 --> 00:13:56,693 Speaker 6: How are you guys? 317 00:13:56,813 --> 00:14:00,133 Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love YouTube. 318 00:14:01,293 --> 00:14:02,132 Speaker 4: I use a lot. 319 00:14:02,732 --> 00:14:03,252 Speaker 12: I like it. 320 00:14:03,252 --> 00:14:03,933 Speaker 4: It's free. 321 00:14:04,372 --> 00:14:08,813 Speaker 11: See, my philosophy is on a holdout when it comes 322 00:14:08,892 --> 00:14:12,573 Speaker 11: to pain for any internet service, So I don't pay 323 00:14:12,612 --> 00:14:16,612 Speaker 11: for the Herald or anything like that. Premium, no premiums. 324 00:14:16,653 --> 00:14:20,413 Speaker 11: I've got no premium subs. So it's just a decision 325 00:14:20,493 --> 00:14:23,893 Speaker 11: I made that I could get enough news and free 326 00:14:23,933 --> 00:14:27,053 Speaker 11: stuff on the Internet without having to pay. So YouTube 327 00:14:27,133 --> 00:14:31,333 Speaker 11: fit that very well. And you know, like you said, 328 00:14:31,533 --> 00:14:33,893 Speaker 11: it's good and bad and everything. You'll still have to 329 00:14:33,893 --> 00:14:37,773 Speaker 11: be discerning and make sure you're not wasting your time, 330 00:14:37,933 --> 00:14:40,253 Speaker 11: make sure you're looking at what you want to be 331 00:14:40,693 --> 00:14:45,333 Speaker 11: looking at. But I also like Facebook. Facebook's free and 332 00:14:45,413 --> 00:14:49,933 Speaker 11: Facebook's a good way of keeping in touch with friends. Yeah, 333 00:14:49,973 --> 00:14:55,213 Speaker 11: so those two Instagram, I've noticed it's getting very sexual. 334 00:14:55,333 --> 00:14:58,532 Speaker 11: They don't seem to have sexual boundaries on Instagram anymore. 335 00:14:58,573 --> 00:14:59,333 Speaker 6: It just seems like. 336 00:14:59,413 --> 00:15:02,093 Speaker 2: They're trying to keep you hocked. They throw up, they 337 00:15:02,093 --> 00:15:02,893 Speaker 2: think you might like. 338 00:15:03,533 --> 00:15:04,813 Speaker 3: Could be the outgor, the jealous. 339 00:15:05,653 --> 00:15:10,093 Speaker 11: It's very explicit Instagram to get it's very right, and 340 00:15:10,213 --> 00:15:12,613 Speaker 11: I think, yeah, there's a lot. 341 00:15:12,533 --> 00:15:14,773 Speaker 3: Of advertisers on there. I know that. You know, that's 342 00:15:14,813 --> 00:15:18,853 Speaker 3: where a lot of the only fans tried to flaunt 343 00:15:18,893 --> 00:15:19,373 Speaker 3: their wars. 344 00:15:20,373 --> 00:15:20,613 Speaker 13: Yeah. 345 00:15:20,733 --> 00:15:23,253 Speaker 11: Yeah, it's all to kitch Howkin's the only fans and 346 00:15:23,813 --> 00:15:27,653 Speaker 11: crap like that. So yeah, I don't like Instagram. But 347 00:15:29,253 --> 00:15:34,573 Speaker 11: TikTok obviously that's the younger ones, youngest generation, and if 348 00:15:34,613 --> 00:15:38,133 Speaker 11: they can express themselves on TikTok, some young people can 349 00:15:38,213 --> 00:15:44,172 Speaker 11: actually make money I think from TikTok, and it's a 350 00:15:44,213 --> 00:15:47,173 Speaker 11: good way perhaps for young people to dance or whatever, 351 00:15:48,293 --> 00:15:49,373 Speaker 11: you know, whatever. 352 00:15:49,613 --> 00:15:51,653 Speaker 3: It used to be. 353 00:15:52,013 --> 00:15:55,253 Speaker 2: TikTok used to be quite a wholesome kind of platform 354 00:15:55,333 --> 00:15:58,093 Speaker 2: where people would show their skills, you know, they dance 355 00:15:58,253 --> 00:16:00,412 Speaker 2: or they do a little skill and show it off. 356 00:16:00,453 --> 00:16:03,813 Speaker 2: But then it just completely got taken over by politics 357 00:16:04,453 --> 00:16:08,813 Speaker 2: and people just ranting and raving in a crazy way. 358 00:16:08,933 --> 00:16:11,292 Speaker 2: And there's there's professor Scott Galloway. I took about him 359 00:16:11,293 --> 00:16:15,493 Speaker 2: a lot, and he outlines how TikTok exists primarily to 360 00:16:15,533 --> 00:16:18,813 Speaker 2: create division in Western societies. It's changed, it might change 361 00:16:18,853 --> 00:16:21,172 Speaker 2: now that it's that it's been taken off, but you know, 362 00:16:21,213 --> 00:16:24,412 Speaker 2: the algorithm's very secret. But he was providing evidence that 363 00:16:24,493 --> 00:16:26,292 Speaker 2: it was just the hand was put on it. It 364 00:16:26,333 --> 00:16:28,693 Speaker 2: doesn't have to be much, just just a tiny little 365 00:16:28,973 --> 00:16:32,412 Speaker 2: press on the scales towards things that are negative about 366 00:16:32,453 --> 00:16:37,053 Speaker 2: Western society getting amplified. And then it just blow up 367 00:16:37,133 --> 00:16:40,333 Speaker 2: in that fashion because you know it's a Chinese company, 368 00:16:41,493 --> 00:16:45,533 Speaker 2: so that it's amazing how TikTok. I remember people were 369 00:16:45,533 --> 00:16:49,053 Speaker 2: writing articles why is TikTok so wholesome? And then suddenly 370 00:16:49,253 --> 00:16:51,973 Speaker 2: it is an absolute dumpster fire on there. And I 371 00:16:52,133 --> 00:16:54,172 Speaker 2: just think if someone comes to you and says, you know, 372 00:16:54,293 --> 00:16:57,053 Speaker 2: you ask where you're getting information from on a particular 373 00:16:57,133 --> 00:17:00,412 Speaker 2: issue and they say TikTok, you know that they're not 374 00:17:00,653 --> 00:17:04,773 Speaker 2: getting a nuance deep dive into the issues showing both sides. 375 00:17:06,573 --> 00:17:07,493 Speaker 11: Did you to explain? 376 00:17:07,693 --> 00:17:08,253 Speaker 4: Can you explain? 377 00:17:08,333 --> 00:17:10,893 Speaker 11: I mean how substack works in simple language. 378 00:17:11,093 --> 00:17:15,213 Speaker 2: Okay, So substack is, so the idea is, you know 379 00:17:15,333 --> 00:17:18,413 Speaker 2: and and a lot of you know, reporters and journalists 380 00:17:18,453 --> 00:17:20,533 Speaker 2: and stuff go there. So people write articles on it 381 00:17:21,333 --> 00:17:24,653 Speaker 2: and they put them out for free, or you can 382 00:17:24,693 --> 00:17:27,133 Speaker 2: subscribe if you if you think, if you really like 383 00:17:27,213 --> 00:17:28,973 Speaker 2: that writer and you want to support their work, then 384 00:17:29,053 --> 00:17:33,253 Speaker 2: you can pay and and in in some some put 385 00:17:33,293 --> 00:17:35,853 Speaker 2: themselves behind a paywall and some don't, and some of 386 00:17:35,893 --> 00:17:38,053 Speaker 2: it it's got podcasts and videos on there well. But 387 00:17:38,293 --> 00:17:40,493 Speaker 2: but but it originally started, and I think still was 388 00:17:40,573 --> 00:17:44,493 Speaker 2: primarily a you know, someone writes an article on an issue, 389 00:17:45,093 --> 00:17:46,653 Speaker 2: and if you if you read a lot of their 390 00:17:46,733 --> 00:17:48,773 Speaker 2: articles and decide that there's someone who needs to deserve 391 00:17:48,853 --> 00:17:50,733 Speaker 2: support and you want to keep them going and you 392 00:17:50,773 --> 00:17:53,213 Speaker 2: think they're doing good work, then then you'll subscribe and 393 00:17:53,213 --> 00:17:54,013 Speaker 2: start paying the money. 394 00:17:54,773 --> 00:17:55,293 Speaker 10: Do you like it? 395 00:17:55,373 --> 00:17:56,373 Speaker 11: Do you think it's a good storm? 396 00:17:56,493 --> 00:17:59,053 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. I follow a lot of people on on substack, 397 00:17:59,173 --> 00:18:02,893 Speaker 2: and it's just a a I'm a big fan. I'm 398 00:18:02,893 --> 00:18:05,453 Speaker 2: a big fan. I pay for some I pay for 399 00:18:05,573 --> 00:18:05,973 Speaker 2: some people. 400 00:18:06,053 --> 00:18:06,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, and. 401 00:18:08,653 --> 00:18:12,133 Speaker 2: And not just because you get more content if you pay, 402 00:18:12,413 --> 00:18:14,373 Speaker 2: but some people I just think, well this person's doing 403 00:18:14,453 --> 00:18:16,893 Speaker 2: really good work and they deserve to make some money. 404 00:18:18,013 --> 00:18:20,573 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, thanks for Yeah, I got on your dallas 405 00:18:20,813 --> 00:18:22,453 Speaker 3: there and support it when you know that that money 406 00:18:22,533 --> 00:18:24,613 Speaker 3: is going to someone who's creating something, putting a lot 407 00:18:24,653 --> 00:18:26,573 Speaker 3: of time and effort into it and it's useful or 408 00:18:26,813 --> 00:18:29,173 Speaker 3: you're liking what they're doing. Is it a bit harder 409 00:18:29,253 --> 00:18:31,532 Speaker 3: with YouTube? I mean, do you do you pay for YouTube? 410 00:18:32,053 --> 00:18:34,653 Speaker 2: Yeah? I can't see on the ads. Yeah, yeah, it's 411 00:18:34,693 --> 00:18:37,293 Speaker 2: a big thing now they get two three ads. You 412 00:18:37,413 --> 00:18:40,133 Speaker 2: might as well be watching terrestrial television now the amount 413 00:18:40,133 --> 00:18:41,253 Speaker 2: of ads. Yeah, I can't take it. 414 00:18:41,333 --> 00:18:42,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, very good point. All right, Oh one hundred and 415 00:18:42,973 --> 00:18:45,613 Speaker 3: eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Do you 416 00:18:46,533 --> 00:18:49,013 Speaker 3: watch YouTube or do you use it on a regular basis? 417 00:18:49,213 --> 00:18:51,093 Speaker 3: Do you think it is social media? And is it 418 00:18:51,173 --> 00:18:53,653 Speaker 3: a knit good for society? Love to hear from you, 419 00:18:53,933 --> 00:18:55,573 Speaker 3: nine to nine till it is the Text's twenty seven 420 00:18:55,573 --> 00:18:56,093 Speaker 3: past one. 421 00:18:56,933 --> 00:19:01,053 Speaker 5: The headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic asking breakfast. 422 00:19:01,093 --> 00:19:03,453 Speaker 5: We've got angst around the FDA India wording. 423 00:19:03,573 --> 00:19:06,013 Speaker 14: Now confirmation from the government that the agreement would not 424 00:19:06,213 --> 00:19:09,173 Speaker 14: allow New Zealand to impose a cap on student's visas, 425 00:19:09,173 --> 00:19:12,053 Speaker 14: specifically from in the Trade Minister Tom mcclay's well this, 426 00:19:12,213 --> 00:19:15,013 Speaker 14: do you accept that this is the sort of thing 427 00:19:15,253 --> 00:19:17,733 Speaker 14: in election year that people will grab and run with you? 428 00:19:17,853 --> 00:19:20,333 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right, but it's really important 429 00:19:20,373 --> 00:19:21,373 Speaker 12: to rise it upper level. 430 00:19:21,453 --> 00:19:21,813 Speaker 5: Number one. 431 00:19:21,813 --> 00:19:23,333 Speaker 8: There was always going to be a bit of politics 432 00:19:23,373 --> 00:19:25,493 Speaker 8: around this because it is a very big deal. 433 00:19:25,653 --> 00:19:27,813 Speaker 5: I've seen a lot of speculation. 434 00:19:27,373 --> 00:19:30,453 Speaker 1: About tens and tens of thousands of Indians just having 435 00:19:30,533 --> 00:19:32,293 Speaker 1: the absolute right to come to New Zealand. 436 00:19:32,413 --> 00:19:35,093 Speaker 5: Make this is a trade deal, it's not an immigration deal. 437 00:19:35,213 --> 00:19:36,573 Speaker 6: They do not have that ability. 438 00:19:36,733 --> 00:19:39,573 Speaker 14: Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with 439 00:19:39,813 --> 00:19:41,613 Speaker 14: a Vida News Talk ZB. 440 00:19:41,653 --> 00:19:44,213 Speaker 3: Afternoon it's top ass once we're talking about YouTube. They're 441 00:19:44,253 --> 00:19:45,933 Speaker 3: in a court battle in the US at the moment 442 00:19:46,093 --> 00:19:49,533 Speaker 3: over whether it's addictive or not. But the question I 443 00:19:49,613 --> 00:19:52,373 Speaker 3: got for you is YouTube the best when it comes 444 00:19:52,453 --> 00:19:54,093 Speaker 3: to social media platforms. 445 00:19:54,333 --> 00:19:58,453 Speaker 2: Deon stupidly texts TikTok is not Chinese anymore than American Zone. 446 00:19:58,493 --> 00:20:03,413 Speaker 2: It stopped talking garbage, as I clearly said Dion. I 447 00:20:03,573 --> 00:20:07,813 Speaker 2: clearly said that it has now been a deal has 448 00:20:07,853 --> 00:20:10,493 Speaker 2: been made where it's primarily owned by Americans. 449 00:20:10,733 --> 00:20:14,293 Speaker 3: Play the tape d on good one throat text, thank 450 00:20:14,333 --> 00:20:14,933 Speaker 3: you very much. 451 00:20:15,133 --> 00:20:17,573 Speaker 2: Slop that's called a slop text. Maybe Dion's AI. Yeah, 452 00:20:17,613 --> 00:20:19,813 Speaker 2: maybe I think that's AI slot that came through a bot. 453 00:20:20,013 --> 00:20:22,173 Speaker 3: There might be a few bots throw on our text machine. 454 00:20:22,493 --> 00:20:25,093 Speaker 2: Dion's a bot. Hey, guys. When I first started being 455 00:20:25,133 --> 00:20:27,653 Speaker 2: a hand in my man, YouTube was invaluable when I 456 00:20:27,733 --> 00:20:30,253 Speaker 2: wasn't sure how to do something. Is also helping me 457 00:20:30,333 --> 00:20:33,253 Speaker 2: restore my nineteen eighty seven motorbike. Also spent hours doom 458 00:20:33,293 --> 00:20:35,853 Speaker 2: scrolling on the shorts. Yeah, the shorts are bad, absolutely 459 00:20:35,893 --> 00:20:38,253 Speaker 2: agree Greg. Good and bad, but mostly good for me. Greg. 460 00:20:38,493 --> 00:20:40,093 Speaker 3: Last way to sum it up, Yeah, there's good and 461 00:20:40,173 --> 00:20:41,733 Speaker 3: bad and everything it's right, yep. 462 00:20:42,053 --> 00:20:46,093 Speaker 2: Argument is that YouTube is more good than bad and 463 00:20:46,213 --> 00:20:50,293 Speaker 2: the best of the platforms we talk about in my opinion. Peter, 464 00:20:50,493 --> 00:20:51,133 Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. 465 00:20:52,533 --> 00:20:53,333 Speaker 6: Hey, Chap. 466 00:20:53,653 --> 00:20:57,853 Speaker 15: I'm a a user of YouTube. Love it, absolutely love it. 467 00:20:58,053 --> 00:21:01,453 Speaker 15: I even kind of lately been watching the shorts. But 468 00:21:02,293 --> 00:21:05,693 Speaker 15: from the point of I don't have the shorts I 469 00:21:05,893 --> 00:21:10,053 Speaker 15: watch is of old move these. You don't want to 470 00:21:10,093 --> 00:21:13,893 Speaker 15: watch a whole movie, so like for example, Rambow killing 471 00:21:13,973 --> 00:21:16,093 Speaker 15: the Sheriff of the town, sort of thing. You can 472 00:21:16,293 --> 00:21:19,973 Speaker 15: just watch that five minutes. Yeah, think of the movie 473 00:21:20,213 --> 00:21:21,853 Speaker 15: and you move on and you go, oh, I don't 474 00:21:21,893 --> 00:21:25,493 Speaker 15: have to watch the whole First Blood movie, So it's 475 00:21:25,573 --> 00:21:26,093 Speaker 15: good for that. 476 00:21:26,893 --> 00:21:27,293 Speaker 4: I watched. 477 00:21:27,333 --> 00:21:29,093 Speaker 2: I watched so much of that was I think I 478 00:21:29,173 --> 00:21:30,413 Speaker 2: was saying it. Just a couple of days ago, I 479 00:21:30,493 --> 00:21:36,013 Speaker 2: watched Denzel Washington killing people. Just just my feed is 480 00:21:36,053 --> 00:21:41,013 Speaker 2: full of, you know, five minute recaps of Denzel Washington moment. 481 00:21:43,613 --> 00:21:47,573 Speaker 15: It's great for movie shorts. It's brill I watch a 482 00:21:47,653 --> 00:21:53,213 Speaker 15: lot of restoration videos and you know how to's and 483 00:21:53,693 --> 00:21:56,853 Speaker 15: get my news from YouTube depending on who I want 484 00:21:56,893 --> 00:22:00,453 Speaker 15: to actually get it from. And it's pretty well balanced. 485 00:22:00,533 --> 00:22:04,613 Speaker 15: And hey, my daughter's school recommend it and they use 486 00:22:04,693 --> 00:22:09,693 Speaker 15: it for the in their classes. So how about sixteen right? 487 00:22:09,813 --> 00:22:12,893 Speaker 15: So been part of the you know, the b O 488 00:22:13,133 --> 00:22:15,973 Speaker 15: y D b yo D one of the main apps 489 00:22:16,013 --> 00:22:17,693 Speaker 15: they want you to have on you when they do 490 00:22:17,853 --> 00:22:21,733 Speaker 15: book reviews or movie reviews. They they often use YouTube 491 00:22:21,773 --> 00:22:24,373 Speaker 15: and I don't see anything wrong with it. 492 00:22:25,013 --> 00:22:29,173 Speaker 2: Are you on other social media? Peter, I have. 493 00:22:29,573 --> 00:22:36,373 Speaker 15: Insta, TikTok and quitter only because on Messenger, I'm a 494 00:22:36,533 --> 00:22:40,013 Speaker 15: seventies kid, so on Messenger and one of my buddies 495 00:22:40,053 --> 00:22:40,813 Speaker 15: seen me a link. 496 00:22:41,173 --> 00:22:41,693 Speaker 6: You need the. 497 00:22:41,733 --> 00:22:45,493 Speaker 15: Bloody app to open up and view whatever they've just sent. 498 00:22:45,813 --> 00:22:50,493 Speaker 15: And usually it's midget's doing gymnastics or you know, something 499 00:22:50,613 --> 00:22:54,853 Speaker 15: stupid that's quite funny. And that's the only time. But 500 00:22:54,973 --> 00:22:57,053 Speaker 15: other there I don't use I don't even I don't 501 00:22:57,053 --> 00:22:58,413 Speaker 15: even know how to post on Twitter. 502 00:22:58,773 --> 00:23:00,933 Speaker 2: Probably, so, well, what's your feeling because because they do 503 00:23:00,973 --> 00:23:04,413 Speaker 2: these big studies and people go on to these you know, 504 00:23:04,533 --> 00:23:08,693 Speaker 2: on to YouTube and stuff because the you know, they're 505 00:23:08,773 --> 00:23:10,653 Speaker 2: bored or they want to be entertained and stuff. But 506 00:23:10,813 --> 00:23:12,773 Speaker 2: the interesting studies is when they ask people how they 507 00:23:12,813 --> 00:23:16,773 Speaker 2: feel when they first get off and what people The 508 00:23:16,893 --> 00:23:19,453 Speaker 2: word that people most say when they get off TikTok 509 00:23:19,493 --> 00:23:21,533 Speaker 2: as when they put TikTok and they spend time on it, 510 00:23:21,573 --> 00:23:26,053 Speaker 2: as they feel disappointed with themselves. Really, yeah, that's like 511 00:23:26,213 --> 00:23:30,053 Speaker 2: seventy percent clothing. Yes, it's sort of south loathing that 512 00:23:30,133 --> 00:23:33,613 Speaker 2: they've they've wasted their time. Did you do you feel 513 00:23:33,653 --> 00:23:35,173 Speaker 2: like that at all when you get off social media? 514 00:23:35,253 --> 00:23:39,013 Speaker 15: Peter, Yeah, I would not really see. I would watch 515 00:23:39,093 --> 00:23:43,493 Speaker 15: YouTube more than Netflix or Disney and un less it's 516 00:23:43,533 --> 00:23:46,053 Speaker 15: a whole movie that you're watching. But Yeah, my daughter 517 00:23:46,173 --> 00:23:49,493 Speaker 15: is a TikToker and got went through the phase of 518 00:23:49,573 --> 00:23:53,573 Speaker 15: doing those thirty second dancers and I might have been 519 00:23:53,653 --> 00:23:55,693 Speaker 15: in the background of a couple of them, but you 520 00:23:55,773 --> 00:24:00,493 Speaker 15: know it's it's in moderation, right, I don't. When I 521 00:24:00,573 --> 00:24:02,413 Speaker 15: close the up, I close the app and move on 522 00:24:02,573 --> 00:24:05,253 Speaker 15: to whatever my next tasks. 523 00:24:04,733 --> 00:24:05,973 Speaker 2: And get on your Pete. 524 00:24:06,293 --> 00:24:08,653 Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you very much for your phone call. Hundred 525 00:24:08,653 --> 00:24:10,613 Speaker 3: at eighty ten eighty is the number. Call love to 526 00:24:10,653 --> 00:24:13,173 Speaker 3: hear from you if you're an avid user of YouTube, 527 00:24:13,533 --> 00:24:15,773 Speaker 3: and as Pete said, are you comfortable are letting your 528 00:24:15,813 --> 00:24:19,812 Speaker 3: kids use YouTube versus other social media? I'd assume there 529 00:24:19,813 --> 00:24:21,893 Speaker 3: will be a lot of parents out there that utilize 530 00:24:22,053 --> 00:24:23,973 Speaker 3: is it YouTube kids? There's got a whole lot of 531 00:24:24,013 --> 00:24:26,133 Speaker 3: content on there, So I'd love to hear from you 532 00:24:26,253 --> 00:24:27,413 Speaker 3: on nine two nine two as well. 533 00:24:27,573 --> 00:24:29,733 Speaker 2: The six is YouTube is my father best one out 534 00:24:29,773 --> 00:24:31,493 Speaker 2: of the bunch? Nothing better on a Friday night after 535 00:24:31,493 --> 00:24:33,933 Speaker 2: the family goes to bed, getting absolutely steamed and checking 536 00:24:34,013 --> 00:24:36,413 Speaker 2: on led Zeppelin concert. Yeah, well, just last night I 537 00:24:36,533 --> 00:24:39,213 Speaker 2: was watching Queen Live at Wembley on YouTube. Oh good's 538 00:24:39,293 --> 00:24:42,093 Speaker 2: so good? Headlines coming up? Taking more of your call. 539 00:24:42,013 --> 00:24:47,213 Speaker 16: Shortly used talk said be headlines with Your Ride, New 540 00:24:47,333 --> 00:24:49,093 Speaker 16: Zealand's number one taxi app. 541 00:24:49,213 --> 00:24:52,693 Speaker 17: Download your Ride today. The Office of the Auditor General's 542 00:24:52,773 --> 00:24:56,813 Speaker 17: cleared Health New Zealand of claims that misrepresented Nelson Hospital's 543 00:24:56,893 --> 00:25:01,253 Speaker 17: waiting list numbers. 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You can read more at enzid 559 00:25:59,573 --> 00:26:00,293 Speaker 17: Herald Premium. 560 00:26:00,613 --> 00:26:03,333 Speaker 3: Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams, Thank you very much, Raylan. 561 00:26:03,373 --> 00:26:05,373 Speaker 3: So we're talking about YouTube. They're currently an a legal 562 00:26:05,453 --> 00:26:08,133 Speaker 3: battle in the States. They're arguing that they're not intentionally 563 00:26:08,413 --> 00:26:12,173 Speaker 3: dictive or even technically social media. But the question we've 564 00:26:12,173 --> 00:26:14,533 Speaker 3: got for you is is YouTube the best when it 565 00:26:14,573 --> 00:26:16,973 Speaker 3: comes to social media platforms? Is it a net good 566 00:26:17,053 --> 00:26:19,733 Speaker 3: when it comes to the content it puts out compared 567 00:26:19,773 --> 00:26:21,693 Speaker 3: to the likes of TikTok and Instagram. Oh e one 568 00:26:21,733 --> 00:26:23,173 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call 569 00:26:23,213 --> 00:26:24,573 Speaker 3: a nine two nine two is a text. 570 00:26:25,093 --> 00:26:27,453 Speaker 2: Hey guys, I just wanted to say I've been listening 571 00:26:27,493 --> 00:26:29,532 Speaker 2: to your convo about YouTube versus TikTok, and I think 572 00:26:29,573 --> 00:26:32,413 Speaker 2: the point is a little outdated. While there's definitely nonsense 573 00:26:32,493 --> 00:26:34,693 Speaker 2: on the TikTok platform, there's also a huge amount of 574 00:26:34,773 --> 00:26:38,613 Speaker 2: highly educational content. There's literally a whole for you page 575 00:26:38,653 --> 00:26:42,493 Speaker 2: dedicated to stem and physics, maths and algebra and other topics, 576 00:26:42,653 --> 00:26:45,373 Speaker 2: and plenty of creators covering history, politics, true crime, and more. 577 00:26:45,973 --> 00:26:48,693 Speaker 2: True crime videos can now be longer than ten minutes. 578 00:26:48,773 --> 00:26:50,693 Speaker 2: And a lot of people who post on YouTube also 579 00:26:50,733 --> 00:26:53,053 Speaker 2: post on TikTok. The platform's value really comes down to 580 00:26:53,173 --> 00:26:56,733 Speaker 2: what you engage with, and most news and educational content 581 00:26:56,973 --> 00:26:59,973 Speaker 2: actually hits TikTok before traditional outlets. I say this as 582 00:27:00,013 --> 00:27:02,293 Speaker 2: someone who is twenty three active on the platform, runs 583 00:27:02,333 --> 00:27:05,093 Speaker 2: a business and stays well informed on politics. TikTok isn't 584 00:27:05,133 --> 00:27:08,493 Speaker 2: just fluff and YouTube isn't automatically better. Yeah, I mean 585 00:27:08,533 --> 00:27:10,573 Speaker 2: that is a new that's a new change on TikTok. 586 00:27:10,653 --> 00:27:14,733 Speaker 2: And it's funny because YouTube was allowed long form well 587 00:27:14,773 --> 00:27:17,653 Speaker 2: eventually and lot longer and longer form as the technology 588 00:27:17,733 --> 00:27:20,573 Speaker 2: came back, but then to compete with TikTok added TikTok shorts, 589 00:27:20,573 --> 00:27:23,693 Speaker 2: which is just a minute long. TikTok started as just 590 00:27:23,853 --> 00:27:27,653 Speaker 2: doom scrolling, just a video playing instantly after the last 591 00:27:27,693 --> 00:27:30,173 Speaker 2: one sixty seconds, but recently have added it for longer form. 592 00:27:30,493 --> 00:27:33,813 Speaker 2: So hopefully, as this text is saying that, as it 593 00:27:33,893 --> 00:27:37,653 Speaker 2: gets longer form, the quality comes in. And also it 594 00:27:37,773 --> 00:27:39,733 Speaker 2: is what it is what you watch, you know, the 595 00:27:39,813 --> 00:27:42,533 Speaker 2: algorithms play to what you watch. Absolutely, like Tyler you 596 00:27:42,573 --> 00:27:44,653 Speaker 2: were saying, you get a lot of sort of R 597 00:27:44,733 --> 00:27:47,693 Speaker 2: rated sexual content and that's because the algorithm has sensed 598 00:27:47,693 --> 00:27:49,413 Speaker 2: that you watch that stuff. It's not my fault, man, 599 00:27:49,453 --> 00:27:51,693 Speaker 2: it's not my fault, whereas mine's all science history and 600 00:27:51,853 --> 00:27:52,093 Speaker 2: f one. 601 00:27:52,853 --> 00:27:54,773 Speaker 3: I get, I get the occasional philosophy in there. 602 00:27:54,853 --> 00:27:58,933 Speaker 2: But you know, like it's, yes, hopefully, hopefully TikTok gets 603 00:27:58,973 --> 00:28:00,693 Speaker 2: better now that it's got better, you know, it's got 604 00:28:01,053 --> 00:28:04,333 Speaker 2: ownership that hopefully a bit more responsible than the original 605 00:28:04,373 --> 00:28:07,373 Speaker 2: ownership were, and it will be better and so and 606 00:28:07,413 --> 00:28:09,933 Speaker 2: it's fear to point out that my idea of TikTok 607 00:28:10,053 --> 00:28:12,373 Speaker 2: is what it was a year ago, and hopefully it 608 00:28:12,493 --> 00:28:15,253 Speaker 2: is getting better. But the worst stuff I see on 609 00:28:15,333 --> 00:28:17,893 Speaker 2: other platforms and stuff that ends in the TikTok stuff, yeah, 610 00:28:18,173 --> 00:28:21,893 Speaker 2: the tektok logo. Yeah, and it's some knob behind a 611 00:28:21,973 --> 00:28:24,933 Speaker 2: car just saying the stupidest shit you've ever heard, and 612 00:28:25,013 --> 00:28:26,133 Speaker 2: people saying he's a genius. 613 00:28:26,173 --> 00:28:28,573 Speaker 3: The political propaganda, because that's what a lot of it is. 614 00:28:28,653 --> 00:28:30,693 Speaker 3: But thank you very much for your texts, very reasoned. 615 00:28:31,253 --> 00:28:31,413 Speaker 12: Ree. 616 00:28:31,493 --> 00:28:31,813 Speaker 3: How are you? 617 00:28:32,693 --> 00:28:33,493 Speaker 18: Oh, I'm doing good? 618 00:28:33,573 --> 00:28:34,293 Speaker 19: How are you good? 619 00:28:34,333 --> 00:28:36,093 Speaker 3: Do you want to talk about techtalk versus YouTube? 620 00:28:36,893 --> 00:28:37,093 Speaker 19: Yeah? 621 00:28:37,133 --> 00:28:39,293 Speaker 18: I mean I do agree with the previous text. I 622 00:28:39,333 --> 00:28:41,453 Speaker 18: mean I wouldn't have been able to make my small 623 00:28:41,493 --> 00:28:46,293 Speaker 18: business without the unbelievable skills I learned from YouTube. 624 00:28:46,533 --> 00:28:49,853 Speaker 2: Yeah personally, just before we go on what particular skills 625 00:28:49,853 --> 00:28:50,613 Speaker 2: for those ree. 626 00:28:51,013 --> 00:28:53,653 Speaker 18: Oh, just manufacturing, how to set up a shopify store 627 00:28:53,813 --> 00:28:56,773 Speaker 18: design like AI, how to use everything to kind of 628 00:28:56,973 --> 00:28:59,813 Speaker 18: put it all together to make a business. But like, 629 00:29:00,213 --> 00:29:03,333 Speaker 18: I do think they're very new technologies and they've done 630 00:29:03,973 --> 00:29:06,653 Speaker 18: such a novel thing of bringing people from around the 631 00:29:06,693 --> 00:29:10,333 Speaker 18: world together sharing their idea. Is whether their political lift right, 632 00:29:10,493 --> 00:29:13,213 Speaker 18: like you do get even if some of it's like 633 00:29:13,533 --> 00:29:15,933 Speaker 18: something you might not agree with, it's total information to 634 00:29:16,013 --> 00:29:19,693 Speaker 18: make your your thought process more nuanced. I think it's 635 00:29:19,773 --> 00:29:23,213 Speaker 18: definitely what you engage with, Like the algorithm will mimic 636 00:29:23,333 --> 00:29:25,413 Speaker 18: back to you. You can change the algorithm, so it's 637 00:29:25,453 --> 00:29:29,533 Speaker 18: something if you like consciously decide to change it. But 638 00:29:29,653 --> 00:29:33,453 Speaker 18: I do think there's still a big business and they 639 00:29:33,533 --> 00:29:35,693 Speaker 18: don't pay tax, and you know, I'm not the profit 640 00:29:35,773 --> 00:29:39,853 Speaker 18: that they make, Like they are still trying to manipulate 641 00:29:39,973 --> 00:29:43,253 Speaker 18: you in a way, so you can't, like you can't 642 00:29:43,333 --> 00:29:45,853 Speaker 18: totally just say we're going to like trust them and 643 00:29:45,853 --> 00:29:48,213 Speaker 18: they're amazing, Like you guys have been saying this is 644 00:29:48,253 --> 00:29:50,253 Speaker 18: good and bad, but I think they don't do a 645 00:29:50,333 --> 00:29:54,413 Speaker 18: very good job right now of kind of like underaged dances, 646 00:29:54,573 --> 00:29:57,213 Speaker 18: let's say, or that type of content is there, or 647 00:29:57,293 --> 00:30:00,653 Speaker 18: even like the the other inappropriate types of content are 648 00:30:00,653 --> 00:30:02,333 Speaker 18: not necessarily like filtering the matters. 649 00:30:03,653 --> 00:30:05,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I mean, there's no doubt that YouTube 650 00:30:05,853 --> 00:30:09,013 Speaker 2: is trying to get you hoped. I think I think 651 00:30:09,373 --> 00:30:11,693 Speaker 2: it's about I mean, that's why you know, videos roll 652 00:30:11,773 --> 00:30:13,453 Speaker 2: on and when you finish a video, it comes up 653 00:30:13,493 --> 00:30:16,133 Speaker 2: with options for other videos, and then the algorithm and 654 00:30:16,173 --> 00:30:18,613 Speaker 2: there's all those classic stories where if you just leave 655 00:30:19,053 --> 00:30:21,293 Speaker 2: YouTube rolling, it will eventually get angry and angry. 656 00:30:23,413 --> 00:30:26,133 Speaker 18: Yeah, so I think I think an emuoctional reaction out 657 00:30:26,173 --> 00:30:26,293 Speaker 18: of you. 658 00:30:26,453 --> 00:30:26,653 Speaker 11: Really. 659 00:30:27,013 --> 00:30:30,293 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I think there's no doubt that there is 660 00:30:30,413 --> 00:30:32,613 Speaker 2: absolute bad and that what you're saying about text is 661 00:30:32,933 --> 00:30:36,133 Speaker 2: so true and they are. Yeah, they're definitely trying to 662 00:30:36,213 --> 00:30:39,333 Speaker 2: keep you hot. But I feel like it's more substantive 663 00:30:39,533 --> 00:30:42,853 Speaker 2: or potentially more substantive than the other ones, And I 664 00:30:42,893 --> 00:30:45,133 Speaker 2: would say it's less social media than the other ones. 665 00:30:46,653 --> 00:30:51,093 Speaker 18: YouTube is less social media definitely. I do think the 666 00:30:52,133 --> 00:30:55,653 Speaker 18: video aspect is what humans I feel like respond to 667 00:30:55,733 --> 00:30:58,733 Speaker 18: the fastest, Like if they're going to learn a skill, 668 00:30:58,813 --> 00:31:02,173 Speaker 18: it'll be faster through YouTube watching another human do it yes, 669 00:31:02,293 --> 00:31:05,333 Speaker 18: versus reading about it. I also think the substack, for 670 00:31:06,533 --> 00:31:10,293 Speaker 18: like the new generation, has become kind of like a 671 00:31:10,413 --> 00:31:13,733 Speaker 18: virtue signaling thing now where a lot of conspiracy theorists 672 00:31:13,933 --> 00:31:18,653 Speaker 18: or like just people that don't know something will try 673 00:31:18,773 --> 00:31:22,013 Speaker 18: to write to almost be impressive and then charge for it. 674 00:31:22,173 --> 00:31:25,213 Speaker 18: So I don't necessarily think subsack is like the most 675 00:31:25,253 --> 00:31:28,053 Speaker 18: amazing thing that I think you can find, like the 676 00:31:28,133 --> 00:31:31,693 Speaker 18: broad range of people on substack as well, just necessarily 677 00:31:32,573 --> 00:31:34,213 Speaker 18: the great thinkers of our time. 678 00:31:34,573 --> 00:31:37,053 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don saying there. I mean, there's anyone 679 00:31:37,093 --> 00:31:39,133 Speaker 2: can write seven hundred and fifty words, and there's ai 680 00:31:39,213 --> 00:31:40,733 Speaker 2: slop on there and all that kind of thing. But 681 00:31:40,813 --> 00:31:42,733 Speaker 2: I guess what I was saying is I find people 682 00:31:42,773 --> 00:31:45,133 Speaker 2: that I really respect on there, and then if I 683 00:31:45,213 --> 00:31:46,733 Speaker 2: think that they've put a lot of effort into it, 684 00:31:46,853 --> 00:31:49,693 Speaker 2: it's not slop, it's well researched, then I think, oh, 685 00:31:49,733 --> 00:31:53,053 Speaker 2: maybe I'll give these this person some money so that 686 00:31:53,133 --> 00:31:55,373 Speaker 2: they can keep doing it, so it's worthwhile for them 687 00:31:55,533 --> 00:31:57,733 Speaker 2: to keep doing it. But there's no doubt there's a lot, 688 00:31:57,853 --> 00:32:00,853 Speaker 2: there's there's some absolute garbage on there. 689 00:32:01,853 --> 00:32:04,613 Speaker 18: Yeah, and also on YouTube has a lot of really 690 00:32:04,693 --> 00:32:07,093 Speaker 18: amazing thinkers that put a lot of time into their 691 00:32:07,173 --> 00:32:10,293 Speaker 18: videos official or they also make shorts out of them 692 00:32:10,333 --> 00:32:13,093 Speaker 18: because they know they can, you know, access people that 693 00:32:13,213 --> 00:32:16,173 Speaker 18: are scrolling shorts and they make it like one or 694 00:32:16,213 --> 00:32:18,493 Speaker 18: two of their ideas and follow them. So I actually 695 00:32:18,533 --> 00:32:21,373 Speaker 18: disagree that I'm realizing through talking to you guys. But 696 00:32:21,453 --> 00:32:23,453 Speaker 18: I think YouTube is a social network, but it's a 697 00:32:23,533 --> 00:32:27,333 Speaker 18: new type of social network. It's quite disingenuous for them 698 00:32:27,373 --> 00:32:29,653 Speaker 18: to position themselves. There's not a social network. It's just 699 00:32:29,893 --> 00:32:31,533 Speaker 18: it just looks different. It's like, can you teck. 700 00:32:32,093 --> 00:32:34,933 Speaker 3: I do agree with their argument about the addictive nature 701 00:32:34,973 --> 00:32:37,133 Speaker 3: when it comes to YouTube, and granted that we're in 702 00:32:37,253 --> 00:32:40,013 Speaker 3: the attention economy, they want our attention, no doubt about it. 703 00:32:40,093 --> 00:32:43,453 Speaker 3: Everybody does. But for me, when I use YouTube, I 704 00:32:43,613 --> 00:32:45,973 Speaker 3: can say wholeheartedly that I am not addicted to it 705 00:32:46,053 --> 00:32:48,453 Speaker 3: the way that I am with Instagram. That I'll go home, 706 00:32:48,613 --> 00:32:51,253 Speaker 3: load up Instagram and because it's multiple videos at once, 707 00:32:51,333 --> 00:32:53,613 Speaker 3: I just get locked into a doom scroll pattern. But 708 00:32:53,813 --> 00:32:55,093 Speaker 3: YouTube I feel worse. 709 00:32:55,333 --> 00:32:58,773 Speaker 2: I feel worse when I get off Instagram than I 710 00:32:58,813 --> 00:33:00,653 Speaker 2: do when I get off YouTube on YouTube, I feel 711 00:33:00,653 --> 00:33:02,813 Speaker 2: like I might have learnt something. Yeah, but very much 712 00:33:02,893 --> 00:33:04,653 Speaker 2: what you say, reale, it is, it is, you can 713 00:33:05,253 --> 00:33:07,133 Speaker 2: curate it. I mean Bill Mayer was saying the other day, 714 00:33:07,533 --> 00:33:11,093 Speaker 2: if don't watch anything that says owned destroyed or ends, 715 00:33:11,333 --> 00:33:13,573 Speaker 2: you know, you know, there's there's a way that people 716 00:33:13,653 --> 00:33:15,933 Speaker 2: position what they're going to put up. It's like the 717 00:33:16,013 --> 00:33:18,853 Speaker 2: hook that that that tells you what they're trying to 718 00:33:18,933 --> 00:33:20,813 Speaker 2: do with what they're they're trying to do. And I 719 00:33:20,893 --> 00:33:23,733 Speaker 2: think you can you know, I watch a lot of history, 720 00:33:24,133 --> 00:33:26,773 Speaker 2: and I watch a lot of sports content, and a 721 00:33:26,853 --> 00:33:30,173 Speaker 2: lot of movie content, and and and a lot of 722 00:33:30,213 --> 00:33:32,053 Speaker 2: science content, and that's what it feeds me over and 723 00:33:32,093 --> 00:33:34,933 Speaker 2: over again. So so I feel like I might be 724 00:33:35,013 --> 00:33:38,853 Speaker 2: having this distorted view of it because it gives me 725 00:33:39,053 --> 00:33:41,973 Speaker 2: what I want and I don't. I don't want that slop. 726 00:33:42,173 --> 00:33:44,133 Speaker 2: I hate the slop. As soon as it's as soon 727 00:33:44,173 --> 00:33:46,093 Speaker 2: as it's an AI voice over, I'm out. I'm not 728 00:33:46,133 --> 00:33:46,813 Speaker 2: watching the slop. 729 00:33:48,253 --> 00:33:50,853 Speaker 18: I do think there's something also about how we're becoming 730 00:33:50,933 --> 00:33:54,733 Speaker 18: more dope to mean a decade are getting shorter that 731 00:33:55,293 --> 00:33:57,213 Speaker 18: leaves you, like you said before, I think there's something 732 00:33:57,333 --> 00:33:59,693 Speaker 18: different between the long form and the short form. I 733 00:33:59,773 --> 00:34:01,813 Speaker 18: think that short form, while it feels good in a moment, 734 00:34:01,853 --> 00:34:04,893 Speaker 18: for that addictive quality, and we might if we watched 735 00:34:04,933 --> 00:34:09,453 Speaker 18: the science feed, you know, get some which is good, 736 00:34:09,733 --> 00:34:13,013 Speaker 18: the actual dopamine crash when we turn it off is 737 00:34:13,853 --> 00:34:17,293 Speaker 18: the addictive cycle. Yeah, that's not necessarily something we should 738 00:34:17,293 --> 00:34:20,693 Speaker 18: be reinforming. Yeahs and the tech talk Yeah, I. 739 00:34:20,693 --> 00:34:24,973 Speaker 2: Mean that's right. I mean YouTube shorts that that's the 740 00:34:25,053 --> 00:34:27,772 Speaker 2: same thing, isn't it. You and each one just gives 741 00:34:27,973 --> 00:34:30,293 Speaker 2: just keeps you going, just enough to keep you entertained, 742 00:34:30,293 --> 00:34:32,293 Speaker 2: but you know you're not really entertained, and there's just 743 00:34:32,333 --> 00:34:34,293 Speaker 2: another one, and then you look up and it's dark 744 00:34:34,373 --> 00:34:35,613 Speaker 2: and it's three and a half hours later. 745 00:34:35,733 --> 00:34:39,093 Speaker 3: Little dopamine trigger after dopamine trigger, and your feeling is regret. 746 00:34:39,573 --> 00:34:39,812 Speaker 5: Yeah. 747 00:34:40,653 --> 00:34:42,373 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, thank you so much for your call, Ree, 748 00:34:42,733 --> 00:34:45,973 Speaker 3: thank you. Thank what's yeah, what a great call. We're 749 00:34:45,973 --> 00:34:48,413 Speaker 3: gonna play some messages, but taking your thoughts. One hundred 750 00:34:48,533 --> 00:34:51,213 Speaker 3: eighty eighty is YouTube the best of the bunch when 751 00:34:51,253 --> 00:34:53,693 Speaker 3: it comes to social media. It is twelve to two. 752 00:34:55,133 --> 00:34:58,013 Speaker 1: Matt and Tyler with you as your afternoon rolls on. 753 00:34:58,413 --> 00:35:01,293 Speaker 1: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons with gooda. 754 00:35:01,413 --> 00:35:03,893 Speaker 5: Can you crack the code? Please go to codes every 755 00:35:03,973 --> 00:35:04,893 Speaker 5: Day News Talks. 756 00:35:04,893 --> 00:35:07,293 Speaker 3: They'd be afternoon. It is ten to two plenty of 757 00:35:07,333 --> 00:35:08,613 Speaker 3: teach coming through A nineteen too. 758 00:35:08,973 --> 00:35:10,973 Speaker 2: The six says. My partner goes to the little boys 759 00:35:11,093 --> 00:35:14,573 Speaker 2: room for about thirty minutes and gets on YouTube. The 760 00:35:14,933 --> 00:35:18,933 Speaker 2: crap I hear coming out of there is amazing. It's 761 00:35:18,973 --> 00:35:20,292 Speaker 2: not all coming out as us right. 762 00:35:20,413 --> 00:35:22,373 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, good good picture there. 763 00:35:22,893 --> 00:35:24,773 Speaker 2: I mean if you, if you, if you're on your 764 00:35:24,853 --> 00:35:27,253 Speaker 2: phone in the bathroom and then you stand up and 765 00:35:27,293 --> 00:35:28,573 Speaker 2: one of your legs is gone to sleep and you 766 00:35:28,653 --> 00:35:32,053 Speaker 2: fall over, then then you're got a problem too long. Yeah, 767 00:35:32,093 --> 00:35:32,613 Speaker 2: that's happened to me. 768 00:35:32,693 --> 00:35:34,212 Speaker 3: But that's one of the joys of my life. It's 769 00:35:34,253 --> 00:35:36,573 Speaker 3: just because shooting off to the bathroom and I know 770 00:35:36,613 --> 00:35:39,172 Speaker 3: I've got at least half an hour. We've got two bathrooms, 771 00:35:39,213 --> 00:35:41,413 Speaker 3: so you know, Mayve can't do anything. She knocks on 772 00:35:41,453 --> 00:35:43,333 Speaker 3: the doors, so go use the other bathroom. Watching YouTube. 773 00:35:43,813 --> 00:35:47,013 Speaker 2: You see my thing is in YouTube. It's shooty Shooty Skies. 774 00:35:47,373 --> 00:35:50,973 Speaker 2: What's shooty Sky's that's just this game that it's kind 775 00:35:51,013 --> 00:35:52,573 Speaker 2: of like the old game ninety forty two you're just 776 00:35:52,573 --> 00:35:55,333 Speaker 2: flying along shooting stuff. Oh oh good, shooty skuys. 777 00:35:55,653 --> 00:35:56,413 Speaker 3: I need a new game. 778 00:35:56,373 --> 00:36:00,253 Speaker 2: Shooting crossy roads, crossy roads and shuty skies. They'll get there. 779 00:36:00,373 --> 00:36:02,213 Speaker 2: They'll keep me staying in the bathroom way too long. 780 00:36:02,453 --> 00:36:05,053 Speaker 3: That's a great use of time. A couple more texts. 781 00:36:05,693 --> 00:36:07,933 Speaker 2: If anything is listening and opening and response, it is 782 00:36:07,933 --> 00:36:12,573 Speaker 2: by addictive test me lessa, No, it's not. If dopamine 783 00:36:12,773 --> 00:36:15,933 Speaker 2: is our motivational hormone. If we didn't have dopamine, we 784 00:36:15,933 --> 00:36:19,413 Speaker 2: wouldn't do anything. If you remove dopamine completely, people would 785 00:36:19,453 --> 00:36:21,373 Speaker 2: do nothing. They wouldn't get out of bed. Dopamine in 786 00:36:21,413 --> 00:36:24,293 Speaker 2: itself isn't a bad thing. It's a hugely important thing 787 00:36:25,093 --> 00:36:27,853 Speaker 2: to motivate, to motivate us to go doing anything at all. 788 00:36:27,893 --> 00:36:31,093 Speaker 2: It can be hijacked into a into aniction, yep, and 789 00:36:31,773 --> 00:36:35,053 Speaker 2: that's what the the you know, giving us those rewards 790 00:36:35,093 --> 00:36:38,213 Speaker 2: too easily. But it's not a bad thing in itself. 791 00:36:38,253 --> 00:36:41,133 Speaker 2: Dope mean obviously, yeah, we need it. It's critical right 792 00:36:41,533 --> 00:36:43,613 Speaker 2: beg very shortly. But taking your calls, oh, eight hundred 793 00:36:43,693 --> 00:36:46,453 Speaker 2: eighty ten eighty how often do you use YouTube? And 794 00:36:46,653 --> 00:36:49,333 Speaker 2: is it the best out of social media? Eight to two. 795 00:36:50,733 --> 00:36:54,292 Speaker 1: Matt Heath, Tylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred 796 00:36:54,333 --> 00:36:56,853 Speaker 1: and eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heath and Tylor Adams 797 00:36:56,973 --> 00:36:58,693 Speaker 1: Afternoons news Talks. 798 00:36:58,493 --> 00:37:00,413 Speaker 3: Envy five to two. 799 00:37:00,573 --> 00:37:02,773 Speaker 2: Can the break. I've been working on a definition of addiction. 800 00:37:03,533 --> 00:37:07,613 Speaker 2: Tell me if I'm right, okay or wrong? Eighty ten eighty. 801 00:37:08,013 --> 00:37:13,292 Speaker 2: It's a behavior that starts as rewarding, becomes compulsive even 802 00:37:13,333 --> 00:37:16,213 Speaker 2: though it's harming you. Yeah, so you continue doing it 803 00:37:16,293 --> 00:37:17,133 Speaker 2: even though it's harming you. 804 00:37:17,213 --> 00:37:18,813 Speaker 3: It sounds pretty good to me. But what do you say? 805 00:37:18,933 --> 00:37:22,253 Speaker 3: Nine two niney two, Andrew, We've got about sixty seconds, 806 00:37:22,293 --> 00:37:23,533 Speaker 3: my friend. You love YouTube? 807 00:37:24,653 --> 00:37:27,133 Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, Look, I use it as a reference tool. 808 00:37:27,253 --> 00:37:30,213 Speaker 20: Give you an example. About five years ago, I was 809 00:37:30,293 --> 00:37:32,733 Speaker 20: looking at a Volvo for my wife's car, and it 810 00:37:32,853 --> 00:37:35,413 Speaker 20: had the service slide up, and the dealer gave me 811 00:37:35,493 --> 00:37:37,733 Speaker 20: a thousand dollars off because he couldn't figure out how 812 00:37:37,773 --> 00:37:40,613 Speaker 20: to reset the service light. I took it home youtubed 813 00:37:40,653 --> 00:37:42,493 Speaker 20: it within ten minutes. 814 00:37:42,533 --> 00:37:43,253 Speaker 6: It was reset. 815 00:37:44,493 --> 00:37:44,853 Speaker 3: Brilliant. 816 00:37:44,893 --> 00:37:47,093 Speaker 20: But the other thing that the other thing that's really 817 00:37:47,213 --> 00:37:51,773 Speaker 20: useful is I'm an engineer and I've just gotten into 818 00:37:51,813 --> 00:37:54,813 Speaker 20: the habit of running manuals through AI instead of reading them. 819 00:37:54,853 --> 00:37:56,292 Speaker 8: And then I asked AI the question. 820 00:37:57,093 --> 00:37:58,773 Speaker 6: It saves me hours. 821 00:37:59,453 --> 00:37:59,853 Speaker 3: How good? 822 00:38:00,253 --> 00:38:00,453 Speaker 8: Wow? 823 00:38:00,613 --> 00:38:03,652 Speaker 2: And that's it's accurate enough for you. You've you've had 824 00:38:03,733 --> 00:38:05,573 Speaker 2: result success, it's been successful for you. 825 00:38:06,533 --> 00:38:09,573 Speaker 20: Well, I'll give you an example. Yesterday I was standing 826 00:38:09,613 --> 00:38:11,053 Speaker 20: in front of an analyzer. 827 00:38:11,253 --> 00:38:12,172 Speaker 12: It had alarm up. 828 00:38:12,293 --> 00:38:15,293 Speaker 20: I didn't know what the alarm actually meant. I asked 829 00:38:15,613 --> 00:38:18,692 Speaker 20: I gave AI the manual. I asked AI the question, 830 00:38:18,933 --> 00:38:20,773 Speaker 20: and it told me what the what the alarm was 831 00:38:20,853 --> 00:38:21,693 Speaker 20: up and how to solve it. 832 00:38:21,973 --> 00:38:24,333 Speaker 3: I love that great use of AI and YouTube for 833 00:38:24,413 --> 00:38:24,732 Speaker 3: that matter. 834 00:38:24,813 --> 00:38:26,613 Speaker 2: I guess it's got your feeding at the exact source 835 00:38:26,693 --> 00:38:29,172 Speaker 2: material it needs to work off. Yeah, so I can't 836 00:38:29,333 --> 00:38:30,213 Speaker 2: just can't mess up. 837 00:38:30,293 --> 00:38:32,253 Speaker 3: Find me the answer, right. We're going to carry this on. 838 00:38:32,813 --> 00:38:34,853 Speaker 3: We're having a great discussion about YouTube. How do you 839 00:38:35,093 --> 00:38:37,413 Speaker 3: use it and is it the best of the social 840 00:38:37,453 --> 00:38:39,693 Speaker 3: media platforms. Love to get your thoughts on O eight 841 00:38:39,813 --> 00:38:42,293 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty News, Sport and weather coming up. 842 00:38:44,813 --> 00:38:47,813 Speaker 1: Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heath and Tanner 843 00:38:47,853 --> 00:38:50,533 Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons with Skoder News Talk. 844 00:38:50,613 --> 00:38:53,772 Speaker 3: Sa'd be grey, Good Afternoon't youre welcome back to the show. 845 00:38:53,933 --> 00:38:57,573 Speaker 3: Just a reminder, our friends at scoder could be sending 846 00:38:57,653 --> 00:39:01,053 Speaker 3: you and a friend to the Tour de France when 847 00:39:01,093 --> 00:39:03,293 Speaker 3: you play Skoda codes. If you need some help with 848 00:39:03,373 --> 00:39:05,973 Speaker 3: today's clue, keep listening. We have a clue for you 849 00:39:06,173 --> 00:39:08,252 Speaker 3: later in the hour. Do you like how I see 850 00:39:08,413 --> 00:39:09,813 Speaker 3: that this time Tour de France. 851 00:39:10,173 --> 00:39:10,732 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's better. 852 00:39:10,893 --> 00:39:15,652 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was practicing last night, Tour duh from Tour 853 00:39:15,813 --> 00:39:19,653 Speaker 3: the Front France, the fron. I need some more practicing, obviously. 854 00:39:22,493 --> 00:39:24,813 Speaker 2: If you don't really know how to pronounce something, it's 855 00:39:25,053 --> 00:39:27,893 Speaker 2: you just throw it away. Don't don't chill over it, 856 00:39:28,493 --> 00:39:30,693 Speaker 2: like going pour d France. 857 00:39:30,773 --> 00:39:32,973 Speaker 3: Don't overthink, just roll with it. 858 00:39:33,413 --> 00:39:35,613 Speaker 2: You could thanks to Scota, you could be going to 859 00:39:35,693 --> 00:39:36,093 Speaker 2: the to the. 860 00:39:36,133 --> 00:39:41,573 Speaker 3: Four Beautiful that is coming up in about forty five minutes. 861 00:39:42,093 --> 00:39:45,333 Speaker 2: I'm still suffering peace of tea from trying to, you know, 862 00:39:45,533 --> 00:39:48,813 Speaker 2: pronounce French, because you know, when you're over there and 863 00:39:48,933 --> 00:39:51,333 Speaker 2: you attempt it with weight stuff, they just shame you. 864 00:39:51,973 --> 00:39:57,013 Speaker 2: I was trying to order tea which is enthusion, and 865 00:39:57,133 --> 00:40:03,613 Speaker 2: I was like enthusion, that, enthusion, enthusion and that, and 866 00:40:03,653 --> 00:40:07,413 Speaker 2: they will purposely pretend they don't understand you, just to shame. 867 00:40:07,253 --> 00:40:09,013 Speaker 3: You they like winding people up over there don't know 868 00:40:09,093 --> 00:40:09,733 Speaker 3: English speakers. 869 00:40:09,973 --> 00:40:11,973 Speaker 2: Well, I've told you a number of times about when 870 00:40:12,693 --> 00:40:16,053 Speaker 2: me my friend who was it, It was Joseph G. Lane, 871 00:40:16,933 --> 00:40:21,133 Speaker 2: the NIA Stuard and me. We went into a cafe 872 00:40:21,853 --> 00:40:25,292 Speaker 2: in Paris and when we walked in, the waiter said 873 00:40:25,933 --> 00:40:31,933 Speaker 2: for shit lagers. I assume he just man, he profiled 874 00:40:32,013 --> 00:40:34,613 Speaker 2: us and he goes for shit lagers, I assume. 875 00:40:35,133 --> 00:40:37,853 Speaker 3: And we were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you've read us. Well, yeah, 876 00:40:38,053 --> 00:40:38,533 Speaker 3: it's spot off. 877 00:40:38,573 --> 00:40:39,573 Speaker 2: You profiled us correctly. 878 00:40:39,973 --> 00:40:40,732 Speaker 3: You're in the right job. 879 00:40:40,933 --> 00:40:43,413 Speaker 2: Your crapis lagas. Please would make us very happy. 880 00:40:43,693 --> 00:40:45,813 Speaker 3: So good right there, Go to code Hens is coming 881 00:40:45,893 --> 00:40:47,613 Speaker 3: up in about forty minutes. But back to our discussion 882 00:40:47,853 --> 00:40:49,813 Speaker 3: we've been having about YouTube. This is on the back 883 00:40:49,853 --> 00:40:52,333 Speaker 3: of a landmark case happening in the US at the moment. 884 00:40:52,653 --> 00:40:57,453 Speaker 3: YouTube and meta under allegations that they are addictive, they 885 00:40:57,453 --> 00:41:00,133 Speaker 3: are social media and then they do cause harm. YouTube 886 00:41:00,173 --> 00:41:03,213 Speaker 3: has said they're not intentionally addictive, they're not even technically 887 00:41:03,333 --> 00:41:05,293 Speaker 3: social media. But the question we've got for you is 888 00:41:05,653 --> 00:41:07,812 Speaker 3: how often do you use YouTube? Is it the best 889 00:41:07,893 --> 00:41:09,973 Speaker 3: of the bun when it comes to social media in 890 00:41:10,093 --> 00:41:11,373 Speaker 3: terms of the content that delivers. 891 00:41:11,613 --> 00:41:14,893 Speaker 2: It's interesting. Whether it's you know, intentionally addictive is a 892 00:41:14,933 --> 00:41:17,053 Speaker 2: pretty hard thing to argue because they are in part 893 00:41:17,093 --> 00:41:20,453 Speaker 2: of the attention economy, and so they are trying to 894 00:41:20,533 --> 00:41:22,733 Speaker 2: keep you on all the time, aren't they They are. 895 00:41:22,893 --> 00:41:25,533 Speaker 2: I mean the fact that it doesn't stop, that's a 896 00:41:25,573 --> 00:41:27,573 Speaker 2: big part of it. Right, So the show never ends, 897 00:41:28,173 --> 00:41:30,933 Speaker 2: It just keeps rolling onto the next one, and then 898 00:41:31,613 --> 00:41:33,613 Speaker 2: you know, it's so the infinite scroll. They call it 899 00:41:34,173 --> 00:41:37,813 Speaker 2: auto play, and you know they're up next, coming on there. 900 00:41:38,173 --> 00:41:40,853 Speaker 2: So they are trying to make you stay on the platform. 901 00:41:40,933 --> 00:41:46,333 Speaker 2: But is that is that it's an interesting it's intentionally addictive? 902 00:41:47,013 --> 00:41:49,973 Speaker 2: I guess. But you can you say to people you 903 00:41:50,613 --> 00:41:54,373 Speaker 2: cannot employ techniques such that people stay on your platform longer. 904 00:41:54,813 --> 00:41:56,772 Speaker 2: I mean that that would mean you know, when we're 905 00:41:56,813 --> 00:41:58,893 Speaker 2: doing this show and you say, coming up after the break, 906 00:41:59,373 --> 00:42:02,173 Speaker 2: we've got this is coming up, and you do that 907 00:42:02,333 --> 00:42:03,813 Speaker 2: to so people stay on the show, right. 908 00:42:03,813 --> 00:42:05,253 Speaker 3: Yeah, give them a heads up on what's coming up. 909 00:42:05,293 --> 00:42:07,253 Speaker 3: This is going to be something that is worth listening to, 910 00:42:07,413 --> 00:42:08,053 Speaker 3: so stick around. 911 00:42:08,413 --> 00:42:08,613 Speaker 6: Yeah? 912 00:42:08,733 --> 00:42:12,733 Speaker 2: Is that making it addictive? So I say before that 913 00:42:12,893 --> 00:42:19,213 Speaker 2: my my definition of addiction was a behavior that starts 914 00:42:19,373 --> 00:42:23,293 Speaker 2: out as rewarding but becomes compulsive even though it causes harm. 915 00:42:23,533 --> 00:42:26,133 Speaker 3: Right, I think that sums it up. I'm just trying 916 00:42:26,133 --> 00:42:27,653 Speaker 3: to think of any flaws and detention. 917 00:42:27,853 --> 00:42:30,812 Speaker 2: So you're still doing it even though that the good 918 00:42:31,013 --> 00:42:33,933 Speaker 2: the bad massively outweighs the good from it, right, Yeah. 919 00:42:34,333 --> 00:42:36,213 Speaker 3: And I think if you measure that towards any of 920 00:42:36,253 --> 00:42:37,813 Speaker 3: the main addictions, that probably brings true. 921 00:42:37,973 --> 00:42:39,933 Speaker 2: Was this Texas says? The opposite of addiction is connection. 922 00:42:40,493 --> 00:42:43,773 Speaker 3: The opposite of addiction is connection. Can you get addicted 923 00:42:43,813 --> 00:42:44,293 Speaker 3: to connection? 924 00:42:44,453 --> 00:42:46,732 Speaker 2: Wow? This someone has said, as you're describing marriage, when 925 00:42:46,773 --> 00:42:49,973 Speaker 2: you describe a behavior that started out as rewarding and 926 00:42:50,013 --> 00:42:52,733 Speaker 2: became compulsive and though it causes harm as from us, 927 00:42:52,853 --> 00:42:57,013 Speaker 2: shots fired? Yeah, so that's connection. Yeah, very true, very true. 928 00:42:57,093 --> 00:42:59,853 Speaker 2: You can get addicted to people, definitely, can Is it 929 00:42:59,933 --> 00:43:01,733 Speaker 2: to love? Is that just what a relationship is? Being 930 00:43:01,733 --> 00:43:04,933 Speaker 2: addicted to someone and the attention economy They take up 931 00:43:04,973 --> 00:43:06,613 Speaker 2: more time than other people? 932 00:43:06,733 --> 00:43:08,293 Speaker 3: And when does the dopamine start to drift off? 933 00:43:09,613 --> 00:43:10,172 Speaker 2: Seven years? 934 00:43:11,453 --> 00:43:12,453 Speaker 3: Cameron? How are you mate? 935 00:43:13,213 --> 00:43:13,413 Speaker 6: Yeah? 936 00:43:14,293 --> 00:43:14,693 Speaker 18: What was the. 937 00:43:16,213 --> 00:43:16,493 Speaker 5: Something? 938 00:43:16,973 --> 00:43:17,253 Speaker 2: What's that? 939 00:43:18,093 --> 00:43:18,453 Speaker 7: I said? 940 00:43:18,453 --> 00:43:19,133 Speaker 5: What was a ship? 941 00:43:19,213 --> 00:43:20,693 Speaker 7: Lager Fosters? 942 00:43:21,773 --> 00:43:22,213 Speaker 21: Do you know what? 943 00:43:22,413 --> 00:43:25,053 Speaker 2: He didn't even he just brought them out so that 944 00:43:25,613 --> 00:43:28,093 Speaker 2: some dirty old barrel in the back. They just came 945 00:43:28,173 --> 00:43:29,053 Speaker 2: out and schooners. 946 00:43:29,573 --> 00:43:34,133 Speaker 7: But he you look like you look Australian anyway. 947 00:43:35,093 --> 00:43:37,293 Speaker 2: The funny thing was he ended up liking us because 948 00:43:37,533 --> 00:43:39,172 Speaker 2: when he came back out, we got another four ship 949 00:43:39,213 --> 00:43:41,813 Speaker 2: lagers please and then but by the time we've been 950 00:43:41,853 --> 00:43:44,773 Speaker 2: there for about four hours watching people walk past on 951 00:43:44,853 --> 00:43:49,493 Speaker 2: the streets of Paris drinking these lagers, he became he 952 00:43:49,653 --> 00:43:52,173 Speaker 2: liked us because we weren't offended. But I think I 953 00:43:52,213 --> 00:43:55,413 Speaker 2: think it's basically in central Paris they look down and 954 00:43:55,453 --> 00:43:57,813 Speaker 2: if you don't drink wine, I think they just think 955 00:43:57,853 --> 00:44:00,093 Speaker 2: you're English or German, so they don't like you. 956 00:44:00,213 --> 00:44:03,413 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, goon bag, I guess. 957 00:44:06,253 --> 00:44:06,693 Speaker 3: Classy. 958 00:44:09,013 --> 00:44:12,133 Speaker 7: I'm a big proprior of YouTube. I actually pay the 959 00:44:12,173 --> 00:44:15,133 Speaker 7: subscription like you say that, I actually get no ads 960 00:44:15,173 --> 00:44:18,573 Speaker 7: at all, and and like I use it to, you know, 961 00:44:18,733 --> 00:44:22,533 Speaker 7: for help me defense with two months into the year, 962 00:44:23,013 --> 00:44:26,573 Speaker 7: I've replaced the the cambout in my diesel Highlucks. I 963 00:44:26,813 --> 00:44:29,773 Speaker 7: built a spot welder out of a out of a 964 00:44:30,333 --> 00:44:32,973 Speaker 7: microwave up and transform it that found on the microwave 965 00:44:33,013 --> 00:44:34,173 Speaker 7: album was on the side. 966 00:44:33,973 --> 00:44:34,333 Speaker 4: Of the road. 967 00:44:34,413 --> 00:44:35,013 Speaker 6: It built that. 968 00:44:36,533 --> 00:44:39,293 Speaker 7: It's just the world's bigures helped me file to do 969 00:44:39,453 --> 00:44:41,533 Speaker 7: anything you want. And that's the way I look at it. 970 00:44:41,893 --> 00:44:43,772 Speaker 7: There is some good stuff on that I really really 971 00:44:44,093 --> 00:44:46,133 Speaker 7: like watching, you know, like people that are going on 972 00:44:46,253 --> 00:44:48,133 Speaker 7: journeys of them before I need to go and know 973 00:44:48,293 --> 00:44:50,813 Speaker 7: about a place or go watch that. You know, it's 974 00:44:50,853 --> 00:44:54,213 Speaker 7: like watching those you know, team you know, the travel 975 00:44:54,253 --> 00:44:56,413 Speaker 7: shows and stuff like that. But you know when you 976 00:44:56,493 --> 00:44:58,173 Speaker 7: got you know, one man in a camera and you 977 00:44:58,293 --> 00:45:00,333 Speaker 7: kind of get more of the vibe of the place 978 00:45:00,413 --> 00:45:04,333 Speaker 7: than you do with like a bloody great production behind 979 00:45:04,413 --> 00:45:08,413 Speaker 7: you sort of thing. And what that old guys it 980 00:45:08,453 --> 00:45:11,893 Speaker 7: about the putting the what's name through AI the manus 981 00:45:11,893 --> 00:45:15,613 Speaker 7: through And the one I've been looking at for the 982 00:45:15,733 --> 00:45:19,413 Speaker 7: last couple of days is a thing called open claw, 983 00:45:19,613 --> 00:45:25,013 Speaker 7: which makes where you can build an aim using you know, 984 00:45:26,413 --> 00:45:28,613 Speaker 7: with data and stuff like that. It would cost me 985 00:45:28,613 --> 00:45:31,172 Speaker 7: about ten bucks a month. I'm a bit dubious about 986 00:45:31,253 --> 00:45:33,573 Speaker 7: doing it at the moment because it would involve me 987 00:45:33,693 --> 00:45:36,213 Speaker 7: in out putting some of my data up and then 988 00:45:36,253 --> 00:45:37,773 Speaker 7: I'm just like, is it going to get you know, 989 00:45:38,653 --> 00:45:42,252 Speaker 7: and you give me vulnerabilities and stuff like that. So yeah, 990 00:45:42,653 --> 00:45:44,813 Speaker 7: I'm a big and the other thing too. I've got 991 00:45:44,893 --> 00:45:46,773 Speaker 7: to I use a VP and I used nor VPN 992 00:45:47,093 --> 00:45:49,133 Speaker 7: and I vpn'd into the US. I mean a whole 993 00:45:49,173 --> 00:45:52,813 Speaker 7: bunch of more stuff, like TV channels, like local TV 994 00:45:52,933 --> 00:45:56,293 Speaker 7: channels in the US, so you know, and it's way 995 00:45:56,333 --> 00:45:57,093 Speaker 7: better than it's quite. 996 00:45:57,613 --> 00:45:59,293 Speaker 2: Are you want any other social media Cameron? 997 00:46:00,013 --> 00:46:00,212 Speaker 6: Nah? 998 00:46:00,693 --> 00:46:01,413 Speaker 7: Nah? 999 00:46:01,733 --> 00:46:02,613 Speaker 10: Far do you do it? 1000 00:46:03,933 --> 00:46:06,653 Speaker 7: So you you can say Facebook, but only use that 1001 00:46:06,773 --> 00:46:08,933 Speaker 7: for the marketplace. I can buy gum one more stuff 1002 00:46:08,933 --> 00:46:09,573 Speaker 7: that I don't need. 1003 00:46:10,773 --> 00:46:14,253 Speaker 2: Do you ever sit down start watching YouTube because you 1004 00:46:14,453 --> 00:46:17,573 Speaker 2: want to be informed about something and then find yourself? 1005 00:46:18,693 --> 00:46:21,653 Speaker 2: You know, two hours later it's dark and you're just 1006 00:46:21,733 --> 00:46:22,573 Speaker 2: full of self. 1007 00:46:23,973 --> 00:46:25,692 Speaker 7: I start at five o'clock in the morning and I'll 1008 00:46:25,693 --> 00:46:27,173 Speaker 7: be sitting there till two o'clock and the half and 1009 00:46:27,173 --> 00:46:30,693 Speaker 7: then just learn how to do something. Yeah, because this 1010 00:46:31,093 --> 00:46:32,613 Speaker 7: other guy has done it a different way, I need 1011 00:46:32,653 --> 00:46:35,813 Speaker 7: to go and see how he does it, and very much. 1012 00:46:35,853 --> 00:46:37,773 Speaker 7: Three people and tea people do it the same way, 1013 00:46:37,853 --> 00:46:39,732 Speaker 7: and I'll do it what they do. So some guy 1014 00:46:39,813 --> 00:46:41,653 Speaker 7: does it a different way, or some person does it 1015 00:46:41,693 --> 00:46:43,653 Speaker 7: a different way, I ignore him. And then you have 1016 00:46:43,733 --> 00:46:46,253 Speaker 7: a look at how many subscriptions and how many taxi's 1017 00:46:46,253 --> 00:46:48,493 Speaker 7: got They will be quite next to the name doing 1018 00:46:48,533 --> 00:46:48,933 Speaker 7: that job. 1019 00:46:49,093 --> 00:46:53,853 Speaker 2: So I watch things that on how to do things 1020 00:46:53,933 --> 00:46:55,693 Speaker 2: that I'll never do and don't believe that i'll be 1021 00:46:55,733 --> 00:46:58,813 Speaker 2: able to do. There's this guy I follow that tramps 1022 00:46:58,853 --> 00:47:02,373 Speaker 2: off into the wilderness and then cuts down a tree 1023 00:47:02,413 --> 00:47:05,453 Speaker 2: and builds a guitar. And he doesn't leave his campsite 1024 00:47:05,613 --> 00:47:08,893 Speaker 2: until he finishes building the guitar. That isn't and you 1025 00:47:08,933 --> 00:47:10,853 Speaker 2: know there'll be a bear that comes to Hussleshim at 1026 00:47:10,893 --> 00:47:14,373 Speaker 2: some point. He's got to find food, he's he has 1027 00:47:14,453 --> 00:47:17,413 Speaker 2: to build a shelter. But in the end he sits down, 1028 00:47:17,573 --> 00:47:19,692 Speaker 2: he plays his acoustic guitar, and then he tramps back out. 1029 00:47:19,893 --> 00:47:21,652 Speaker 2: And at no point watching that do I learn how 1030 00:47:21,693 --> 00:47:22,893 Speaker 2: to build an acoustic guitar. 1031 00:47:23,333 --> 00:47:26,173 Speaker 3: But it's just compelling, compelling content. 1032 00:47:27,173 --> 00:47:29,253 Speaker 7: Well, my favorite new gentleman at the moment has to 1033 00:47:29,293 --> 00:47:31,053 Speaker 7: be Scott Brown. He's a builder and now so in 1034 00:47:31,133 --> 00:47:33,653 Speaker 7: the US live in Auckland. He moves down to Nelson. 1035 00:47:33,733 --> 00:47:38,533 Speaker 7: What's his girlfriend Jess, and they're renovating the house. And 1036 00:47:38,613 --> 00:47:41,093 Speaker 7: it's really really interesting because he's done a lot of 1037 00:47:41,213 --> 00:47:44,533 Speaker 7: the cabina making new stuff like that himself. 1038 00:47:45,253 --> 00:47:46,573 Speaker 3: He's telling it, I've just looked him up. 1039 00:47:46,613 --> 00:47:48,533 Speaker 2: So that's the whole thing. Like, how can you know 1040 00:47:48,693 --> 00:47:51,853 Speaker 2: terrestrial television that plays things like maths, you know, married 1041 00:47:51,853 --> 00:47:55,613 Speaker 2: at first sight? How can they call YouTube slop when 1042 00:47:55,653 --> 00:47:57,813 Speaker 2: you describe the kind of stuff that we actually watch 1043 00:47:57,893 --> 00:48:01,573 Speaker 2: on YouTube, Like there's this guy called very Tiesium. If 1044 00:48:01,573 --> 00:48:05,173 Speaker 2: you ever watched his its physics history and such, and 1045 00:48:05,173 --> 00:48:08,212 Speaker 2: it's just so deep and interesting and so much effort 1046 00:48:08,533 --> 00:48:08,813 Speaker 2: into it. 1047 00:48:09,213 --> 00:48:14,333 Speaker 7: It's so much watch leacher from Harvard University about one 1048 00:48:14,373 --> 00:48:16,853 Speaker 7: would like to say back with computers and stuff like that, 1049 00:48:17,533 --> 00:48:20,533 Speaker 7: and other lectures from other universities around the world. 1050 00:48:21,373 --> 00:48:25,533 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you get what you get what you watch. 1051 00:48:25,653 --> 00:48:27,853 Speaker 2: You teach the algorithm what you watch. If Tyler, you 1052 00:48:27,933 --> 00:48:31,413 Speaker 2: get a lot of bikini content because that's what you're teaching. 1053 00:48:31,453 --> 00:48:34,293 Speaker 2: The who doesn't want that just quickly thank you very much, Caeron. 1054 00:48:34,333 --> 00:48:36,772 Speaker 3: But on that point that you know, the addiction side, 1055 00:48:36,813 --> 00:48:38,773 Speaker 3: and they feed you more content and hey, we've got 1056 00:48:38,813 --> 00:48:40,853 Speaker 3: more videos like this that you want to watch for 1057 00:48:40,933 --> 00:48:43,053 Speaker 3: a lot of the time. Isn't that flow that's very 1058 00:48:43,093 --> 00:48:46,573 Speaker 3: different to addiction. For example, if I'm you're learning about science, 1059 00:48:46,613 --> 00:48:48,533 Speaker 3: or if I'm learning guitar, so I learned one song, 1060 00:48:48,653 --> 00:48:50,973 Speaker 3: Get it down, Pat, and then the next video pops up. Hey, 1061 00:48:51,093 --> 00:48:53,053 Speaker 3: you like this little bit of lead zip. Here's a 1062 00:48:53,093 --> 00:48:54,413 Speaker 3: bit of Beatles. Would you like to learn that? 1063 00:48:54,613 --> 00:48:54,813 Speaker 13: Yeah? 1064 00:48:54,853 --> 00:48:57,413 Speaker 3: Absolutely, because I'm in the zone. I'm loving what I'm doing. 1065 00:48:57,653 --> 00:49:00,652 Speaker 3: I'm focused, and I'm in a flow state that's very 1066 00:49:00,733 --> 00:49:03,053 Speaker 3: different to being addictive. And if they ever stopped offering 1067 00:49:03,093 --> 00:49:04,973 Speaker 3: me videos that I'd like, I'd hate that. It's a 1068 00:49:05,013 --> 00:49:05,653 Speaker 3: great feature. 1069 00:49:05,813 --> 00:49:09,253 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'll watch rickby Ato and and then you know, 1070 00:49:09,693 --> 00:49:15,692 Speaker 2: I'll analyzing music, and then before long I'm watching someone 1071 00:49:15,773 --> 00:49:18,453 Speaker 2: else analyzing another thing. There's this piano guy I watch, 1072 00:49:19,333 --> 00:49:23,253 Speaker 2: and then it's like three or four hours later, and 1073 00:49:24,093 --> 00:49:25,213 Speaker 2: my whole day has been stolen. 1074 00:49:25,453 --> 00:49:25,573 Speaker 1: Right. 1075 00:49:25,733 --> 00:49:30,013 Speaker 2: So it's good content and kind of wholesome, I guess, 1076 00:49:30,173 --> 00:49:32,652 Speaker 2: and nutrition for the brain, but just way too much 1077 00:49:32,693 --> 00:49:32,853 Speaker 2: of it. 1078 00:49:32,973 --> 00:49:33,133 Speaker 19: Yeah. 1079 00:49:33,173 --> 00:49:35,133 Speaker 3: Interesting. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the 1080 00:49:35,253 --> 00:49:38,293 Speaker 3: number to call? Is YouTube and net positive? And is 1081 00:49:38,333 --> 00:49:39,453 Speaker 3: it the best of the bunch when it comes to 1082 00:49:39,493 --> 00:49:40,933 Speaker 3: social media? Seventeen past two. 1083 00:49:42,373 --> 00:49:47,173 Speaker 1: Your home of afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons. 1084 00:49:46,773 --> 00:49:49,893 Speaker 5: Call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty used talk said. 1085 00:49:49,693 --> 00:49:53,173 Speaker 3: Be afternoon to you. We are talking about YouTube, Is 1086 00:49:53,213 --> 00:49:54,853 Speaker 3: it the best of the social media in terms of 1087 00:49:54,893 --> 00:49:56,253 Speaker 3: the content it delivers? 1088 00:49:56,453 --> 00:49:58,453 Speaker 2: And what about great New Zealander is like Viva la 1089 00:49:58,493 --> 00:49:59,373 Speaker 2: dirt rely Yeah. 1090 00:49:59,573 --> 00:49:59,893 Speaker 5: Huge. 1091 00:50:00,013 --> 00:50:02,172 Speaker 2: At the moment, I couldn't get any New Zealand any 1092 00:50:02,253 --> 00:50:05,293 Speaker 2: funding to make their videos and they start making their 1093 00:50:05,453 --> 00:50:09,652 Speaker 2: amusing videos around video games and other stuff, yeah, other 1094 00:50:09,693 --> 00:50:12,213 Speaker 2: stuff in life. Hugely successful. A lot of people in 1095 00:50:12,213 --> 00:50:15,613 Speaker 2: New Zealand's don't even know what's going on, but they've 1096 00:50:15,613 --> 00:50:18,013 Speaker 2: got a huge studio. They're pumping out this content. They 1097 00:50:18,093 --> 00:50:23,053 Speaker 2: making millions and millions of global viewers because in the 1098 00:50:23,453 --> 00:50:26,173 Speaker 2: competition of content that is YouTube, they've risen to the 1099 00:50:26,213 --> 00:50:29,253 Speaker 2: top because they do such quality stuff, right, and it's 1100 00:50:29,293 --> 00:50:31,613 Speaker 2: like a full operation, like a full movie operation. They've 1101 00:50:31,653 --> 00:50:35,093 Speaker 2: got running out there making this content. And there's no 1102 00:50:35,173 --> 00:50:38,533 Speaker 2: way you'd call what they do slop, no, or that 1103 00:50:38,733 --> 00:50:43,333 Speaker 2: it's you know, it's there, it's addictive, and that it's good. 1104 00:50:43,573 --> 00:50:44,493 Speaker 2: People want to watch more. 1105 00:50:44,413 --> 00:50:47,493 Speaker 3: Of it, right, very entertaining. Yeah, seven point three million subscribers. 1106 00:50:47,533 --> 00:50:48,172 Speaker 3: I've just had a look. 1107 00:50:48,253 --> 00:50:48,652 Speaker 19: But you're right. 1108 00:50:48,693 --> 00:50:51,772 Speaker 3: When they did the Kickstarter and all their fans there's 1109 00:50:51,773 --> 00:50:54,613 Speaker 3: seven point three million subscribers help them out. So I 1110 00:50:54,693 --> 00:50:57,053 Speaker 3: think fund it was two million dollars for their own studio. 1111 00:50:57,573 --> 00:51:00,413 Speaker 2: James says, you two are very addictive. 1112 00:51:00,733 --> 00:51:01,813 Speaker 3: Oh good on you, James. 1113 00:51:01,933 --> 00:51:03,973 Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing, like we try and make content 1114 00:51:04,053 --> 00:51:07,772 Speaker 2: that people want to listen to. Are we just trying 1115 00:51:07,773 --> 00:51:08,293 Speaker 2: to be addictive? 1116 00:51:08,933 --> 00:51:09,693 Speaker 3: I hope so are we? 1117 00:51:09,933 --> 00:51:10,013 Speaker 17: Are? 1118 00:51:10,053 --> 00:51:10,293 Speaker 22: We know? 1119 00:51:10,413 --> 00:51:11,893 Speaker 2: Better than a meth pipe? 1120 00:51:13,133 --> 00:51:15,533 Speaker 3: A good question to ask, Braden, how are you? 1121 00:51:16,653 --> 00:51:16,853 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1122 00:51:17,133 --> 00:51:17,333 Speaker 18: Mate? 1123 00:51:17,333 --> 00:51:17,573 Speaker 6: How are you? 1124 00:51:17,773 --> 00:51:18,172 Speaker 3: Yeah? Good? 1125 00:51:18,253 --> 00:51:18,453 Speaker 5: God? 1126 00:51:18,573 --> 00:51:21,413 Speaker 3: So your little boy loves YouTube? Yeah he does. 1127 00:51:21,533 --> 00:51:23,652 Speaker 9: I just have to have to agree with Jane's there 1128 00:51:24,293 --> 00:51:29,693 Speaker 9: on that texts very addictive listening to YouTube, tensway tune and. 1129 00:51:32,373 --> 00:51:32,933 Speaker 2: Appreciate that. 1130 00:51:33,893 --> 00:51:34,093 Speaker 19: Yeah. 1131 00:51:34,213 --> 00:51:34,772 Speaker 22: So yeah. 1132 00:51:34,773 --> 00:51:37,333 Speaker 9: I've got a two year old and he absolutely loves 1133 00:51:38,053 --> 00:51:41,133 Speaker 9: the flight trucks and diggers, and we found without giving 1134 00:51:41,213 --> 00:51:45,413 Speaker 9: him like your standard cramp that they have on YouTube, 1135 00:51:45,453 --> 00:51:48,413 Speaker 9: We're found the RC your remote control trucks and diggers 1136 00:51:48,893 --> 00:51:51,333 Speaker 9: have been a great learner for him. But he just 1137 00:51:51,893 --> 00:51:54,133 Speaker 9: he can tell the difference between you know, your trucks, 1138 00:51:54,213 --> 00:51:56,133 Speaker 9: your diggers, your role as your front loaders. But he 1139 00:51:56,213 --> 00:51:58,013 Speaker 9: can now point all of them out to us on 1140 00:51:58,093 --> 00:52:02,333 Speaker 9: the side of the road and it's just work it 1141 00:52:02,493 --> 00:52:04,853 Speaker 9: And I feel like he's learning heaps from it, but 1142 00:52:05,893 --> 00:52:07,973 Speaker 9: I definitely know you can go down a dark side 1143 00:52:07,973 --> 00:52:10,413 Speaker 9: of YouTube. We do feel like you're in that same 1144 00:52:10,653 --> 00:52:12,853 Speaker 9: TikTok Instagram reel kind. 1145 00:52:12,733 --> 00:52:16,813 Speaker 2: Of slot brain, Right, do you would you let your 1146 00:52:17,133 --> 00:52:20,172 Speaker 2: would you let your boy just watch YouTube on his own? 1147 00:52:20,973 --> 00:52:25,133 Speaker 9: Or now, we don't leave it on unless we're around. 1148 00:52:25,693 --> 00:52:27,732 Speaker 9: We might be cooking dinner or something and just chuck 1149 00:52:27,733 --> 00:52:28,893 Speaker 9: them in front of it, just to give us a 1150 00:52:28,933 --> 00:52:32,253 Speaker 9: bit of break so we can get something done. But 1151 00:52:32,413 --> 00:52:34,413 Speaker 9: as I say, there's two things that we watch. Ones 1152 00:52:34,493 --> 00:52:37,053 Speaker 9: tractor dead Ted, which is a little tractor that goes. 1153 00:52:36,933 --> 00:52:37,493 Speaker 6: Around the farm. 1154 00:52:37,773 --> 00:52:41,733 Speaker 9: We learn about harvesting all different fruits and potatoes and 1155 00:52:41,813 --> 00:52:43,613 Speaker 9: all of that sort of stuff. So it's lots of learning. 1156 00:52:44,653 --> 00:52:47,653 Speaker 9: But then I also remember just recently that that lady 1157 00:52:47,973 --> 00:52:49,973 Speaker 9: that called up and said how they just try and 1158 00:52:50,093 --> 00:52:53,813 Speaker 9: really drag you in to keep watching. We noticed that 1159 00:52:53,853 --> 00:52:56,213 Speaker 9: YouTube had to pop up after thirty minutes that actually 1160 00:52:56,293 --> 00:52:59,253 Speaker 9: cuts the the TV from planes. That just puts the 1161 00:52:59,373 --> 00:53:01,493 Speaker 9: video on pause until we touch the remote again. 1162 00:53:01,813 --> 00:53:05,853 Speaker 2: Right, is that on all YouTuber? Is that on kids YouTube? 1163 00:53:06,853 --> 00:53:06,893 Speaker 13: No? 1164 00:53:07,093 --> 00:53:09,453 Speaker 9: This is just well I don't know everyone's YouTube. Well, 1165 00:53:09,453 --> 00:53:11,173 Speaker 9: if I've somehow put on a parent. 1166 00:53:11,173 --> 00:53:13,653 Speaker 2: Control, you must have because mine doesn't do that. 1167 00:53:14,573 --> 00:53:17,013 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, see, I don't even remember doing it, but 1168 00:53:17,213 --> 00:53:20,973 Speaker 9: that cuts off after thirty minutes, so then we have 1169 00:53:21,133 --> 00:53:22,893 Speaker 9: to touch the remote and we don't live with that. 1170 00:53:23,173 --> 00:53:25,652 Speaker 2: But that's that's a good feature to put on if 1171 00:53:25,653 --> 00:53:26,813 Speaker 2: you can go and I'm going to look that up 1172 00:53:26,813 --> 00:53:28,573 Speaker 2: when you put that on, just trying to google it now. 1173 00:53:29,773 --> 00:53:31,653 Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't know if it's on our phones and stuff, 1174 00:53:31,653 --> 00:53:33,493 Speaker 9: but it's definitely when we chuck it on the TV, 1175 00:53:33,893 --> 00:53:36,453 Speaker 9: it definitely cuts out after yeah, half an hour. 1176 00:53:36,733 --> 00:53:39,013 Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's and that's working. 1177 00:53:39,093 --> 00:53:41,253 Speaker 9: That stops him from just sitting there there watching it. 1178 00:53:41,653 --> 00:53:43,973 Speaker 9: But in terms of what you guys are discussing at 1179 00:53:44,013 --> 00:53:47,692 Speaker 9: being a better social media platform, I undred percent think 1180 00:53:47,733 --> 00:53:50,733 Speaker 9: it is. You learn way more. Like I use it 1181 00:53:51,053 --> 00:53:53,453 Speaker 9: often to go back and watch the NRL highlights that 1182 00:53:53,533 --> 00:53:55,733 Speaker 9: I've missed. I heard someone say that they go and 1183 00:53:55,813 --> 00:53:59,053 Speaker 9: watch the Zeppelin live one hundred percent love the live 1184 00:53:59,173 --> 00:54:01,813 Speaker 9: music on there. And you guys were talking about science 1185 00:54:01,893 --> 00:54:03,933 Speaker 9: and stuff. I love a guy called Mark Rover and 1186 00:54:04,013 --> 00:54:08,973 Speaker 9: he does science experiments with just putting different things together 1187 00:54:09,493 --> 00:54:11,493 Speaker 9: and see what sort of explosions can make. 1188 00:54:11,613 --> 00:54:15,893 Speaker 2: And that's great content that that's that's not brain right, 1189 00:54:15,933 --> 00:54:18,453 Speaker 2: it's the opposite of brain right. Hey, Braden, I watched 1190 00:54:18,453 --> 00:54:21,533 Speaker 2: an interesting led Zeppelin clip last night and it was 1191 00:54:21,573 --> 00:54:24,493 Speaker 2: from Live Aid when you know, it was after John 1192 00:54:24,533 --> 00:54:26,733 Speaker 2: Bonham had passed and Phil Collins thought he could come 1193 00:54:26,773 --> 00:54:29,533 Speaker 2: in and step in, fly in from London and step 1194 00:54:29,613 --> 00:54:33,493 Speaker 2: in to play drums for led Zeppelin, and it was 1195 00:54:33,493 --> 00:54:36,573 Speaker 2: a bit of a disaster, a great one. 1196 00:54:38,173 --> 00:54:40,093 Speaker 9: I was going to say, Phil Collins is a great drummer, 1197 00:54:40,093 --> 00:54:42,133 Speaker 9: and if you haven't seen his sun play on the drums, 1198 00:54:42,173 --> 00:54:43,933 Speaker 9: search that up because he's as well. 1199 00:54:44,013 --> 00:54:46,053 Speaker 2: Phil Phil Collins is a great drummer, but you can't 1200 00:54:46,133 --> 00:54:48,212 Speaker 2: just come in and sit in with led Zeppelin without 1201 00:54:48,253 --> 00:54:53,573 Speaker 2: a practice. And yeah, good it's worth watching because it 1202 00:54:53,653 --> 00:54:55,573 Speaker 2: was a real moment in Phil Collins's career where we 1203 00:54:55,573 --> 00:54:57,613 Speaker 2: realized that he hadn't set a foot wrong for a 1204 00:54:57,653 --> 00:54:59,693 Speaker 2: long time. And you consider what see him sitting on 1205 00:54:59,733 --> 00:55:01,813 Speaker 2: stage in front of ninety thousand people at Live AID, 1206 00:55:01,893 --> 00:55:04,893 Speaker 2: go oh yeah, I cannot, I cannot keep up. 1207 00:55:05,213 --> 00:55:08,533 Speaker 9: Plus another great live one to watch his going back 1208 00:55:08,573 --> 00:55:12,013 Speaker 9: and watching what'stop ninety nine that is wicked. 1209 00:55:11,813 --> 00:55:16,652 Speaker 2: Oh shocking behavior that wasn't near the end there. Yeah, hey, 1210 00:55:16,773 --> 00:55:18,053 Speaker 2: all the best for you and all the best for 1211 00:55:18,093 --> 00:55:19,772 Speaker 2: your son, and thank you for listening to the show. 1212 00:55:19,813 --> 00:55:20,613 Speaker 2: Braden appreciate it. 1213 00:55:20,733 --> 00:55:23,213 Speaker 3: Yeah, great, call back very shortly. It is twenty five 1214 00:55:23,253 --> 00:55:23,692 Speaker 3: past two. 1215 00:55:27,813 --> 00:55:31,213 Speaker 1: Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and 1216 00:55:31,253 --> 00:55:33,373 Speaker 1: eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB. 1217 00:55:33,533 --> 00:55:35,693 Speaker 3: Twenty eight past two. Is YouTube the best of the 1218 00:55:35,733 --> 00:55:37,733 Speaker 3: bunch when it comes to social media? How often do 1219 00:55:37,773 --> 00:55:39,693 Speaker 3: you use it? What are you using it for? I 1220 00:55:39,813 --> 00:55:40,453 Speaker 3: love to hear from you. 1221 00:55:40,613 --> 00:55:40,773 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1222 00:55:40,773 --> 00:55:42,813 Speaker 2: And a lot of people are concusing YouTube of just 1223 00:55:42,853 --> 00:55:45,373 Speaker 2: trying to get people addictive, and I said, well, isn't 1224 00:55:45,373 --> 00:55:47,093 Speaker 2: that what we're trying to do on this show, you know, 1225 00:55:47,173 --> 00:55:48,853 Speaker 2: trying to be addictive. This person said, you guys are 1226 00:55:48,933 --> 00:55:51,373 Speaker 2: seriously addictive. I end up sitting in the van listening 1227 00:55:51,413 --> 00:55:53,493 Speaker 2: when I should be delivering. It's a problem gets me 1228 00:55:53,573 --> 00:55:56,773 Speaker 2: through the days. And this Texas said, like James and Braiden, 1229 00:55:56,773 --> 00:55:59,853 Speaker 2: I'm totally addicted to Matt and Tyler. You never know 1230 00:56:00,013 --> 00:56:03,293 Speaker 2: what the callers are going to say. It's high risk radio. 1231 00:56:03,813 --> 00:56:06,813 Speaker 2: And this Texas says, recovering methadict here, you guys are 1232 00:56:06,933 --> 00:56:08,893 Speaker 2: just as addictive as p But I'd argue your show 1233 00:56:08,973 --> 00:56:10,813 Speaker 2: is more damaging for brain health than myth. 1234 00:56:10,973 --> 00:56:13,253 Speaker 3: Fair very fair, as the. 1235 00:56:13,373 --> 00:56:15,853 Speaker 2: Text to Greg says that you guys are completely different 1236 00:56:15,893 --> 00:56:18,333 Speaker 2: to a meth pipe. A pipe keeps you awake for 1237 00:56:18,413 --> 00:56:20,493 Speaker 2: three days. You guys can put me to sleep for 1238 00:56:20,573 --> 00:56:21,173 Speaker 2: three minutes. 1239 00:56:22,853 --> 00:56:28,453 Speaker 3: Oh that's great. Get those teas coming through sleep the boarder, David, 1240 00:56:28,493 --> 00:56:28,813 Speaker 3: how are you? 1241 00:56:30,013 --> 00:56:30,493 Speaker 6: Yeah? Good? 1242 00:56:30,533 --> 00:56:30,973 Speaker 4: Thanks, Phill. 1243 00:56:31,013 --> 00:56:35,773 Speaker 23: It's interesting. I subscribe to YouTube again. So no ads 1244 00:56:36,293 --> 00:56:39,853 Speaker 23: originally did it in the phone TV shut down because 1245 00:56:39,853 --> 00:56:42,413 Speaker 23: you lose everything. Then if you're on pay TV, you 1246 00:56:42,493 --> 00:56:46,573 Speaker 23: see So I subscribe to it and watch a lot 1247 00:56:46,653 --> 00:56:48,053 Speaker 23: of castuff. 1248 00:56:49,053 --> 00:56:50,173 Speaker 15: The guys that actually do. 1249 00:56:51,813 --> 00:56:54,413 Speaker 23: Make manufacture the stuff is a guy that balots out 1250 00:56:54,413 --> 00:56:58,812 Speaker 23: of the US, Hispanic guy and he's ready Tlevor once. 1251 00:56:58,893 --> 00:57:00,133 Speaker 6: You can pick up a lot of good. 1252 00:57:00,093 --> 00:57:05,813 Speaker 23: Confident that involved in Zealand as well from different organizations. 1253 00:57:06,093 --> 00:57:10,893 Speaker 23: I don't know whether you remember the unfortunate incident when 1254 00:57:10,973 --> 00:57:16,053 Speaker 23: the young man drank liquid mess out of a can 1255 00:57:16,213 --> 00:57:22,933 Speaker 23: of honeybeer Beer Canada, and there's a Canadian documentary on that, 1256 00:57:23,253 --> 00:57:26,333 Speaker 23: and that was unbelievably good compared to what you would 1257 00:57:26,373 --> 00:57:29,013 Speaker 23: get out of New Zealand, right right to the core 1258 00:57:29,373 --> 00:57:33,973 Speaker 23: showed a woman buying the stuff in New Zealand, the 1259 00:57:34,133 --> 00:57:38,973 Speaker 23: cost difference between going out of Mexico into Canada, how 1260 00:57:39,053 --> 00:57:42,253 Speaker 23: it manages to leave Canada when it's coming into New Zealand, 1261 00:57:42,613 --> 00:57:44,733 Speaker 23: and why so much of it's coming in here because 1262 00:57:44,773 --> 00:57:48,533 Speaker 23: of just the astronomical value and the money that's made 1263 00:57:48,573 --> 00:57:48,893 Speaker 23: out of it. 1264 00:57:51,773 --> 00:57:54,053 Speaker 3: Was that one of the Canadian TV channels or was 1265 00:57:54,053 --> 00:57:54,613 Speaker 3: it independent? 1266 00:57:56,173 --> 00:58:00,213 Speaker 23: I think it was somebody that worked through a Canadian 1267 00:58:00,493 --> 00:58:03,373 Speaker 23: TV channel because she had a lot of access, and 1268 00:58:03,453 --> 00:58:07,533 Speaker 23: they went back back to the ministers in Canada as well. 1269 00:58:07,613 --> 00:58:11,133 Speaker 23: We're asking in questions and looking for the where it 1270 00:58:11,213 --> 00:58:14,213 Speaker 23: went astray between the New Zealand and the Canadian authorities 1271 00:58:14,893 --> 00:58:17,133 Speaker 23: where it might have had really interesting stuff that you 1272 00:58:17,213 --> 00:58:21,933 Speaker 23: didn't see from mainstream media here. And it was quite astonishing, 1273 00:58:22,053 --> 00:58:26,333 Speaker 23: you know, the indication of the relationship between the gang 1274 00:58:26,413 --> 00:58:31,533 Speaker 23: membership and the importational exportation how this actually happened. But 1275 00:58:31,613 --> 00:58:35,253 Speaker 23: it was just that it showed detailed images from that 1276 00:58:35,373 --> 00:58:39,813 Speaker 23: shot that they where the stuff was getting broken down 1277 00:58:40,173 --> 00:58:43,933 Speaker 23: and the chemicals and just the crap line everywhere from 1278 00:58:44,053 --> 00:58:48,293 Speaker 23: this woman that was living under a bridge, and they 1279 00:58:48,333 --> 00:58:52,533 Speaker 23: actually showed her putting it in the pipe lighting it 1280 00:58:52,733 --> 00:58:55,173 Speaker 23: and smoking it, which you wouldn't normally see on New 1281 00:58:55,253 --> 00:58:56,653 Speaker 23: Zealand mainstream media, know. 1282 00:58:56,653 --> 00:58:57,053 Speaker 1: What I mean. 1283 00:58:57,293 --> 00:59:00,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's fascinating that people are wanting that 1284 00:59:01,493 --> 00:59:05,893 Speaker 3: in depth analysis on stories that you know, for most 1285 00:59:06,013 --> 00:59:08,733 Speaker 3: most people in New Zealand very difficult to find on 1286 00:59:08,813 --> 00:59:10,293 Speaker 3: home grounds. You know, if you look at the six 1287 00:59:10,333 --> 00:59:13,733 Speaker 3: o'clock News, very short clips, and many people would argue 1288 00:59:13,813 --> 00:59:16,653 Speaker 3: there's there's bias that goes in there, whereas YouTube would 1289 00:59:16,653 --> 00:59:19,213 Speaker 3: offer all sorts of different analysis of stories that are 1290 00:59:19,213 --> 00:59:20,013 Speaker 3: happening here as well. 1291 00:59:21,253 --> 00:59:23,573 Speaker 23: Oh yeah, don't get me wrong. I mean, you know 1292 00:59:23,693 --> 00:59:25,093 Speaker 23: that the rest of the world's got a whole lot 1293 00:59:25,093 --> 00:59:27,493 Speaker 23: of problems, and like everybody said, if you want to 1294 00:59:27,533 --> 00:59:30,093 Speaker 23: see what's travels like in other parts of the world, 1295 00:59:30,213 --> 00:59:33,773 Speaker 23: it's a great medium for that. You know, you can 1296 00:59:33,893 --> 00:59:37,213 Speaker 23: look up I look up a lot of information on it. 1297 00:59:38,133 --> 00:59:40,173 Speaker 23: I suppose it's not really addictive to me. I'm just 1298 00:59:40,333 --> 00:59:42,213 Speaker 23: old so for heaven lot for too long, I'll dropped 1299 00:59:42,213 --> 00:59:43,013 Speaker 23: off to sleep. 1300 00:59:43,133 --> 00:59:43,293 Speaker 6: You know. 1301 00:59:44,893 --> 00:59:46,293 Speaker 15: But yeah, it's good. 1302 00:59:46,373 --> 00:59:49,533 Speaker 23: You can go back to where you were watching, you 1303 00:59:49,653 --> 00:59:52,773 Speaker 23: can look at it again. Easy to find, that's what 1304 00:59:52,853 --> 00:59:53,373 Speaker 23: I find. 1305 00:59:53,533 --> 00:59:53,773 Speaker 4: I mean. 1306 00:59:53,853 --> 00:59:55,933 Speaker 6: I'm on Facebook, I. 1307 00:59:56,053 --> 01:00:00,853 Speaker 23: Use a bit of Facebook marketplace, but dodgsy years and 1308 01:00:00,933 --> 01:00:02,973 Speaker 23: the only other one I've really used is what's that? 1309 01:00:03,973 --> 01:00:07,293 Speaker 23: Because people find it easy to load up photo as well. 1310 01:00:07,533 --> 01:00:09,813 Speaker 23: I don't know it young people, but us holder folks 1311 01:00:10,213 --> 01:00:12,813 Speaker 23: find it easy to lad up photos when you're on holiday. 1312 01:00:12,853 --> 01:00:14,373 Speaker 23: Some we send it to a different group. 1313 01:00:14,613 --> 01:00:17,733 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, think of your call, Gavin. I think WhatsApp 1314 01:00:17,853 --> 01:00:19,373 Speaker 2: and WhatsApp threads is now. 1315 01:00:19,413 --> 01:00:19,693 Speaker 5: That is? 1316 01:00:21,013 --> 01:00:24,133 Speaker 2: That is slop my mates from high school and I've 1317 01:00:24,493 --> 01:00:28,253 Speaker 2: got a bunch of threads with different mates. And the filth, 1318 01:00:28,373 --> 01:00:33,093 Speaker 2: the slop, I mean, every every second poster's career ending. 1319 01:00:32,973 --> 01:00:33,413 Speaker 8: For all of us. 1320 01:00:33,453 --> 01:00:35,813 Speaker 3: If that ever got out, she ever got leaked, shocking, 1321 01:00:36,173 --> 01:00:38,173 Speaker 3: just in the Epstein files by long shot. 1322 01:00:38,333 --> 01:00:41,693 Speaker 2: Just groups of dudes trying to say the worst possible thing. 1323 01:00:41,733 --> 01:00:42,453 Speaker 2: It's very addictive. 1324 01:00:42,573 --> 01:00:43,413 Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet it is. 1325 01:00:43,573 --> 01:00:47,533 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's like a closed social media group 1326 01:00:47,653 --> 01:00:49,573 Speaker 2: of just pure evil filth. 1327 01:00:49,613 --> 01:00:52,173 Speaker 3: It's great and we love it. Yeah, right, headlines are 1328 01:00:52,213 --> 01:00:54,213 Speaker 3: coming up, taking more of your calls. O eight one 1329 01:00:54,253 --> 01:00:56,773 Speaker 3: hundred and eighty ten eighty YouTube. Is it the best 1330 01:00:56,933 --> 01:00:58,453 Speaker 3: of the social media platforms? 1331 01:00:58,493 --> 01:00:58,693 Speaker 6: It is? 1332 01:00:58,773 --> 01:00:59,533 Speaker 3: Twenty seven to three? 1333 01:00:59,853 --> 01:01:01,333 Speaker 2: Is it even a social media. 1334 01:01:01,173 --> 01:01:07,173 Speaker 16: Platform used talk said headlines with your Ride New zent 1335 01:01:07,253 --> 01:01:10,613 Speaker 16: once number one tax see app download your ride today. 1336 01:01:11,253 --> 01:01:12,533 Speaker 2: The Finance Minister. 1337 01:01:12,333 --> 01:01:15,093 Speaker 17: Says a review of the fiscal response to the pandemic 1338 01:01:15,253 --> 01:01:18,933 Speaker 17: aims to provide lessons for future decisions. It will probe 1339 01:01:18,973 --> 01:01:22,693 Speaker 17: the Reserve Bank's Monetary Policy Committee decisions and advice. It 1340 01:01:22,853 --> 01:01:27,413 Speaker 17: received devastation in Hawkes Bay's Wide Hour after a person 1341 01:01:27,573 --> 01:01:31,133 Speaker 17: died yesterday and two others were critically injured in a 1342 01:01:31,213 --> 01:01:34,893 Speaker 17: crash between a car and a school bus. Fire crews 1343 01:01:34,933 --> 01:01:37,453 Speaker 17: are battling a landfall blaze about the size of half 1344 01:01:37,493 --> 01:01:42,333 Speaker 17: a rugby field in Waikato's Teruhia, south of Paidoa. The 1345 01:01:42,533 --> 01:01:46,493 Speaker 17: Energy Minister is expecting cost savings for consumers from a 1346 01:01:46,573 --> 01:01:50,853 Speaker 17: planned LNG storage built to bolster energy supply, although a 1347 01:01:50,933 --> 01:01:54,133 Speaker 17: Cabinet document shows officials warned the cost of the construction 1348 01:01:54,333 --> 01:01:59,413 Speaker 17: levy is likely to trickle down onto power bills. Defense 1349 01:01:59,493 --> 01:02:02,413 Speaker 17: Minister Judith Collins is heading to Germany for the International 1350 01:02:02,533 --> 01:02:06,013 Speaker 17: Munich Security Conference and will meet with the British Secretary 1351 01:02:06,053 --> 01:02:11,653 Speaker 17: of Defense and NATO Secretary Chefs. Rebel Arisa clubs thwarted 1352 01:02:12,013 --> 01:02:16,013 Speaker 17: as high court backs national leaders amid bitter feud You 1353 01:02:16,093 --> 01:02:18,053 Speaker 17: can see more at zid Herald Premium. 1354 01:02:18,373 --> 01:02:20,373 Speaker 2: Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams. 1355 01:02:20,093 --> 01:02:22,413 Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Ray Lane. So YouTube isn't caught 1356 01:02:22,493 --> 01:02:25,573 Speaker 3: in the US. They are arguing that unintentionally addictive and 1357 01:02:25,613 --> 01:02:28,973 Speaker 3: they're not even technically social media. So the question we've 1358 01:02:29,013 --> 01:02:30,933 Speaker 3: got for you is how often do you use YouTube? 1359 01:02:31,093 --> 01:02:33,853 Speaker 3: Is social media to you? And what sort of content 1360 01:02:33,893 --> 01:02:34,413 Speaker 3: are you're watching? 1361 01:02:34,973 --> 01:02:37,613 Speaker 2: Some people argue, neuroscientists, are you. The best way to 1362 01:02:37,773 --> 01:02:41,293 Speaker 2: fight an addiction like a social media addiction, or if 1363 01:02:41,333 --> 01:02:44,453 Speaker 2: you have a YouTube addiction, is to really concentrate on 1364 01:02:44,573 --> 01:02:48,053 Speaker 2: how you feel as you get off. So you get 1365 01:02:48,133 --> 01:02:51,453 Speaker 2: on YouTube because maybe you're bored or agitated or whatever 1366 01:02:51,773 --> 01:02:53,933 Speaker 2: to watch it, or you want to be informed by something, 1367 01:02:54,253 --> 01:02:56,453 Speaker 2: but then you watch way too much, and then when 1368 01:02:56,493 --> 01:02:58,053 Speaker 2: you get off, you go and do something else, but 1369 01:02:58,133 --> 01:03:01,013 Speaker 2: you only remember that it cured your problem of boredom 1370 01:03:01,093 --> 01:03:04,933 Speaker 2: or agitation or whatever. So this is particularly true with 1371 01:03:05,293 --> 01:03:09,813 Speaker 2: short form doomscrolling videos or Instagram, which generally people come 1372 01:03:09,853 --> 01:03:15,013 Speaker 2: off Instagram and feel terrible. Right, they feel disappointed, and 1373 01:03:16,013 --> 01:03:19,733 Speaker 2: they feel regret. Regret and disappointment into the main feelings 1374 01:03:19,773 --> 01:03:22,573 Speaker 2: people feel when they get off TikTok and Instagram. But 1375 01:03:22,693 --> 01:03:25,173 Speaker 2: people just move on with their life. But the advice 1376 01:03:25,293 --> 01:03:28,453 Speaker 2: is when you get off, just concentrate how you feel 1377 01:03:29,053 --> 01:03:32,253 Speaker 2: as you get off, and if you feel regret, then 1378 01:03:32,293 --> 01:03:34,653 Speaker 2: you start to train your brain that that product gives 1379 01:03:34,653 --> 01:03:37,573 Speaker 2: you regret. It doesn't solve your boredom problem. It actually 1380 01:03:37,653 --> 01:03:40,293 Speaker 2: feeds you regret. Interesting, So if you just take that 1381 01:03:40,453 --> 01:03:43,853 Speaker 2: second to concentrate as you stop finally stop doom scrolling 1382 01:03:43,893 --> 01:03:45,973 Speaker 2: after an hour and a half and you look around 1383 01:03:46,053 --> 01:03:49,133 Speaker 2: and it's dark and you're all alone, and your family's 1384 01:03:49,253 --> 01:03:51,653 Speaker 2: gone off and done other things, you've wasted more time 1385 01:03:51,653 --> 01:03:54,213 Speaker 2: in your life, precious seconds of your life wasted on 1386 01:03:54,293 --> 01:03:57,493 Speaker 2: this rubbish, And just concentrate on that feeling of regret 1387 01:03:57,573 --> 01:04:00,893 Speaker 2: and disappointment in yourself. Then maybe the next time you 1388 01:04:01,013 --> 01:04:03,053 Speaker 2: go on, your brain will go, oh, that's the thing 1389 01:04:03,133 --> 01:04:06,253 Speaker 2: that creates regret and disappointment, not the thing that solves 1390 01:04:06,293 --> 01:04:06,773 Speaker 2: my boredom. 1391 01:04:06,893 --> 01:04:09,773 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great advice. Oh one hundred and eighty ten 1392 01:04:09,773 --> 01:04:12,133 Speaker 3: eighties and number to call do do Sean? 1393 01:04:12,253 --> 01:04:14,093 Speaker 12: How are you hey, lad? 1394 01:04:14,133 --> 01:04:16,533 Speaker 3: How are we very good? Do you like YouTube? 1395 01:04:16,613 --> 01:04:16,813 Speaker 4: Good? 1396 01:04:17,533 --> 01:04:17,653 Speaker 17: Oh? 1397 01:04:17,733 --> 01:04:18,773 Speaker 6: A big fan of YouTube? 1398 01:04:18,853 --> 01:04:22,893 Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely, I do like I guess similar to Brandon, 1399 01:04:23,453 --> 01:04:24,973 Speaker 4: I also have got a five year old and a 1400 01:04:25,013 --> 01:04:28,173 Speaker 4: two year old, and I guess from a parenting perspective, 1401 01:04:28,333 --> 01:04:32,853 Speaker 4: super great tool. You know, lots of learning to be had. However, 1402 01:04:33,453 --> 01:04:35,453 Speaker 4: just kind of what you were saying that earlier about 1403 01:04:36,013 --> 01:04:40,493 Speaker 4: got to be mindful and try and service regret into 1404 01:04:40,613 --> 01:04:45,413 Speaker 4: your next watch my kids when we you know, Friday, 1405 01:04:45,693 --> 01:04:47,893 Speaker 4: half an hour, forty five minutes, maybe an our max 1406 01:04:47,973 --> 01:04:50,213 Speaker 4: and I mean max, because it got you let them 1407 01:04:50,213 --> 01:04:53,653 Speaker 4: watch any longer. The kick ons afterwards are just oh, 1408 01:04:53,853 --> 01:04:56,493 Speaker 4: something else, And I'm not sure maybe it's just maybe 1409 01:04:56,493 --> 01:04:57,253 Speaker 4: it's just my kids. 1410 01:04:57,813 --> 01:04:59,293 Speaker 2: I think it is. I think this is a very 1411 01:04:59,333 --> 01:05:00,373 Speaker 2: common problem. 1412 01:05:00,973 --> 01:05:05,613 Speaker 4: Right, But yeah, I feel for the young children because 1413 01:05:05,653 --> 01:05:10,333 Speaker 4: they are getting this like and I'm I'm filtered amount 1414 01:05:10,373 --> 01:05:14,093 Speaker 4: of dobamine for an hour, half an hour, bright colors, 1415 01:05:14,133 --> 01:05:17,893 Speaker 4: all of this type of stuff. And yeah, then you've 1416 01:05:17,893 --> 01:05:19,213 Speaker 4: got to pull it away and say, hey, look it's 1417 01:05:19,213 --> 01:05:22,693 Speaker 4: dinner time and all you've got left is like teas 1418 01:05:22,773 --> 01:05:25,093 Speaker 4: and chicken. You're like, well, this is boring. I feel 1419 01:05:25,133 --> 01:05:29,133 Speaker 4: like fighting someone. That's what happens. 1420 01:05:29,373 --> 01:05:29,933 Speaker 2: Yeah, to get the. 1421 01:05:31,573 --> 01:05:36,573 Speaker 4: Exactly Yeah, so yeah, I can I do feel I 1422 01:05:36,653 --> 01:05:38,293 Speaker 4: feel for the kids, but it's a great tool for 1423 01:05:38,333 --> 01:05:40,493 Speaker 4: the parents that you know, like Braden said, you get 1424 01:05:40,533 --> 01:05:42,773 Speaker 4: an hour while you're cooking tea and you know, but 1425 01:05:43,013 --> 01:05:44,213 Speaker 4: God is they're a risk to it. 1426 01:05:44,613 --> 01:05:45,173 Speaker 6: I'll tell you what. 1427 01:05:45,773 --> 01:05:48,733 Speaker 2: When I was a kid, though, de Shawn, I'd come 1428 01:05:48,773 --> 01:05:51,333 Speaker 2: home and I'd just make a huge pile of peanut 1429 01:05:51,373 --> 01:05:55,573 Speaker 2: butter and white death bread and pour myself a drink Rara. 1430 01:05:55,973 --> 01:05:58,693 Speaker 2: It was a RaRo and go and go and sit 1431 01:05:58,813 --> 01:06:00,693 Speaker 2: in the lounge in front of the TV and just 1432 01:06:00,933 --> 01:06:05,533 Speaker 2: watch slop like terrible TV. There wasn't even quality. I mean, 1433 01:06:05,573 --> 01:06:09,053 Speaker 2: people look back on Scooby Doo as being quality show 1434 01:06:10,053 --> 01:06:12,093 Speaker 2: that was not quality. It had the same ending every 1435 01:06:12,133 --> 01:06:15,493 Speaker 2: single time. But there's Hanna barbera crap that just washed 1436 01:06:15,613 --> 01:06:17,733 Speaker 2: over you. And you sat there and you watched every 1437 01:06:17,773 --> 01:06:20,013 Speaker 2: one of the ads. A he Man would ad would 1438 01:06:20,013 --> 01:06:21,373 Speaker 2: come on, and then suddenly you needed to get a 1439 01:06:21,413 --> 01:06:24,213 Speaker 2: he Man dole or whatever. So I think the kids 1440 01:06:24,293 --> 01:06:27,893 Speaker 2: might have been sitting watching slop and getting you know, 1441 01:06:28,573 --> 01:06:32,413 Speaker 2: brain raised for quite some time. I mean I just 1442 01:06:32,493 --> 01:06:34,373 Speaker 2: wondered with my I mean, maybe it wasn't quite as 1443 01:06:34,413 --> 01:06:36,333 Speaker 2: exciting because it didn't give what they want. But I 1444 01:06:36,413 --> 01:06:38,493 Speaker 2: actually feel when I was watching TV, as a kid, 1445 01:06:38,493 --> 01:06:41,293 Speaker 2: I just get into a vegetative state. And in fact, 1446 01:06:41,333 --> 01:06:44,133 Speaker 2: my dad said he would know when the ads were 1447 01:06:44,173 --> 01:06:46,093 Speaker 2: on because it would be silent, and then there'd be 1448 01:06:46,133 --> 01:06:48,773 Speaker 2: a fight and you'd hear punching and screaming and crying, 1449 01:06:48,813 --> 01:06:52,133 Speaker 2: and then the ads would end and the people again, you. 1450 01:06:52,213 --> 01:06:56,133 Speaker 4: Get bored, so you punch someone. The alternative to that, 1451 01:06:56,493 --> 01:06:59,773 Speaker 4: or maybe the alternative view, is that kids know that 1452 01:06:59,853 --> 01:07:03,253 Speaker 4: YouTube is never ending. Yeah, yeah, I got home from 1453 01:07:03,373 --> 01:07:06,853 Speaker 4: schools three year'clock, three point thirty. I've got four or 1454 01:07:06,933 --> 01:07:09,493 Speaker 4: five half an hour blocks from my favorite TV shows. 1455 01:07:09,693 --> 01:07:11,493 Speaker 4: Mom's going to come in the door and be like, hey, look, 1456 01:07:11,813 --> 01:07:13,613 Speaker 4: knock it off. We've got to do other stuff now. 1457 01:07:13,853 --> 01:07:16,293 Speaker 4: And you knew, okay, the news is probably about to 1458 01:07:16,373 --> 01:07:18,133 Speaker 4: turn up that I don't want to set through that, 1459 01:07:18,293 --> 01:07:22,013 Speaker 4: and so you're probably programmed for about an hour, an 1460 01:07:22,013 --> 01:07:23,493 Speaker 4: hour and a half or two hours of like these 1461 01:07:23,533 --> 01:07:26,013 Speaker 4: are my shows. Everything is sweet, hungey doy. I'm going 1462 01:07:26,053 --> 01:07:27,493 Speaker 4: to give it a watch, and then once that's done, 1463 01:07:27,533 --> 01:07:30,853 Speaker 4: it's done. Whereas you know, with YouTube, there's always a 1464 01:07:31,253 --> 01:07:34,493 Speaker 4: bright and slash touch and how would you like to 1465 01:07:34,533 --> 01:07:37,253 Speaker 4: watch the next video of how many bounty balls I 1466 01:07:37,293 --> 01:07:38,773 Speaker 4: can throw in the air and catch on my face 1467 01:07:39,053 --> 01:07:42,133 Speaker 4: or whatever it is. It's just, it's just it's an indigo. 1468 01:07:42,173 --> 01:07:43,853 Speaker 3: That's so true that suddenly got me to bed. It 1469 01:07:43,933 --> 01:07:45,973 Speaker 3: was the head the news, and then the bill came 1470 01:07:46,093 --> 01:07:47,373 Speaker 3: up and they say, do you want to watch the 1471 01:07:47,373 --> 01:07:48,493 Speaker 3: bell or do you want to go to bed? As 1472 01:07:48,493 --> 01:07:50,133 Speaker 3: I'll go to bed. I don't want to watch the bell. 1473 01:07:50,453 --> 01:07:58,333 Speaker 2: Bell and cool baseline that, But imagine trying to tell 1474 01:07:58,373 --> 01:08:01,573 Speaker 2: a kid now, like if say, show like night Rider 1475 01:08:01,733 --> 01:08:03,693 Speaker 2: was on, it was on at a certain time, yet 1476 01:08:03,733 --> 01:08:05,813 Speaker 2: to watch it and the next episode was on at 1477 01:08:05,853 --> 01:08:11,613 Speaker 2: that time seven days later? Yeah, check, all right, did 1478 01:08:11,653 --> 01:08:12,453 Speaker 2: you just sort of some food? 1479 01:08:15,333 --> 01:08:18,852 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, make us sorted for the sales, epic 1480 01:08:18,893 --> 01:08:19,532 Speaker 4: work nice? 1481 01:08:19,693 --> 01:08:21,013 Speaker 3: Yeah, well good idea. 1482 01:08:21,053 --> 01:08:22,213 Speaker 2: Well, well let you get back to that. Thank you 1483 01:08:22,253 --> 01:08:22,893 Speaker 2: so much for your call. 1484 01:08:22,973 --> 01:08:25,173 Speaker 3: It's a great lunch. Thank you very much for your call, 1485 01:08:25,333 --> 01:08:27,412 Speaker 3: and keen on yours. One hundred and eighty ten eighty 1486 01:08:27,652 --> 01:08:29,772 Speaker 3: is that number? It is seventeen to three. 1487 01:08:30,213 --> 01:08:32,572 Speaker 1: To have a chat with Matt and Tyler on Oh, 1488 01:08:32,612 --> 01:08:34,852 Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Matt Heath and Tyler 1489 01:08:34,893 --> 01:08:36,852 Speaker 1: Adams afternoons with Skoda. 1490 01:08:37,013 --> 01:08:38,972 Speaker 5: Can you crack the Scoder Code News. 1491 01:08:38,853 --> 01:08:42,772 Speaker 3: Dogs, B News Talks B fourteen two three Get a Blair. 1492 01:08:43,652 --> 01:08:45,612 Speaker 5: Okoy, Hey guys, how are you done very well? 1493 01:08:46,492 --> 01:08:48,452 Speaker 6: I think that's the first time we've spoken this year. 1494 01:08:49,013 --> 01:08:50,333 Speaker 3: Yeah, happy new you mate. 1495 01:08:51,333 --> 01:08:54,372 Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, Well, if I wasn't at home nursing broken 1496 01:08:54,492 --> 01:08:57,652 Speaker 10: roots from putting it sold at work, it probably wouldn't 1497 01:08:57,652 --> 01:08:58,093 Speaker 10: be so bad. 1498 01:08:58,133 --> 01:08:58,612 Speaker 5: But there we go. 1499 01:08:58,772 --> 01:09:00,013 Speaker 6: There to the story for another day. 1500 01:09:01,133 --> 01:09:03,692 Speaker 2: You've got ast it assaulted at work? Can you tell 1501 01:09:03,732 --> 01:09:07,372 Speaker 2: the story vaguely? 1502 01:09:10,173 --> 01:09:11,893 Speaker 6: It might be ending up before the court, so I 1503 01:09:12,013 --> 01:09:13,092 Speaker 6: can't really go into. 1504 01:09:13,412 --> 01:09:16,492 Speaker 2: We'll get get back to us when you can't talk 1505 01:09:16,492 --> 01:09:18,093 Speaker 2: about it, because it sounds like an interesting story. 1506 01:09:18,333 --> 01:09:22,412 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I suppose. 1507 01:09:23,532 --> 01:09:23,692 Speaker 8: Now. 1508 01:09:24,213 --> 01:09:28,732 Speaker 10: YouTube, because I've been off for the last ten days, 1509 01:09:29,532 --> 01:09:32,972 Speaker 10: I've watched a lot of YouTube. My interests are varied, 1510 01:09:34,333 --> 01:09:37,333 Speaker 10: so I've been from one of a better word, trolling 1511 01:09:37,452 --> 01:09:41,133 Speaker 10: through what's available, and there's plenty of stuff that's that 1512 01:09:41,293 --> 01:09:44,692 Speaker 10: I had an interest in. Interested in history, for example, 1513 01:09:44,812 --> 01:09:46,812 Speaker 10: so I've been watching a lot of the Old Time 1514 01:09:46,893 --> 01:09:50,133 Speaker 10: Team episodes. I've got an interest in aviation, so I've 1515 01:09:50,173 --> 01:09:51,173 Speaker 10: been watching watching a lot of. 1516 01:09:51,213 --> 01:09:55,612 Speaker 6: Duck and entries about flying and various aircraft and all that. 1517 01:09:55,692 --> 01:09:56,213 Speaker 6: Sort of stuff. 1518 01:09:57,293 --> 01:09:59,852 Speaker 10: At the same time, there is a lot of cramp 1519 01:10:00,013 --> 01:10:04,892 Speaker 10: on it. You know, these these reaction videos, for example, 1520 01:10:04,933 --> 01:10:08,772 Speaker 10: where down and yeah yeah, and they put a little 1521 01:10:09,853 --> 01:10:13,412 Speaker 10: clickbait screen thumbnail up on there because I wasn't ready. 1522 01:10:13,853 --> 01:10:15,692 Speaker 6: Well, your bloody will wear, mate, because. 1523 01:10:15,492 --> 01:10:18,973 Speaker 10: You took the time to queue up the videos that 1524 01:10:19,133 --> 01:10:20,772 Speaker 10: you cam r up, do your make up, put your 1525 01:10:20,853 --> 01:10:22,852 Speaker 10: lighting on and all that, so to turn around and 1526 01:10:22,853 --> 01:10:25,452 Speaker 10: go ook, God, it wasn't ready, You're clearly wear. But 1527 01:10:25,812 --> 01:10:28,772 Speaker 10: you know, so there is a lot of bollocks on it. 1528 01:10:28,973 --> 01:10:30,772 Speaker 2: Yeah, what about sometimes you get to the point when 1529 01:10:30,772 --> 01:10:32,612 Speaker 2: you've got a reaction video and there's a guy sitting 1530 01:10:32,652 --> 01:10:36,893 Speaker 2: in the corner and then there's a reaction. Are's a 1531 01:10:36,933 --> 01:10:38,852 Speaker 2: reaction to a reaction video. So there's another guy sitting 1532 01:10:38,853 --> 01:10:41,892 Speaker 2: in the corner and he's talking over that. It's such slot. 1533 01:10:42,013 --> 01:10:43,812 Speaker 2: That's such slot. What do you need to what do 1534 01:10:43,853 --> 01:10:46,372 Speaker 2: you need to be sitting there with listening to it 1535 01:10:46,452 --> 01:10:48,812 Speaker 2: in a little video on the corner? You muppet get out? 1536 01:10:49,853 --> 01:10:53,692 Speaker 10: Yeah no, I totally agree with that. But yeah, it's 1537 01:10:53,772 --> 01:10:57,092 Speaker 10: just what I've generally found with YouTube is there's something 1538 01:10:57,173 --> 01:11:01,253 Speaker 10: on there for everybody. You're bound to find something that will, 1539 01:11:01,572 --> 01:11:04,412 Speaker 10: that will grab your interest, and you can sit down 1540 01:11:04,492 --> 01:11:06,612 Speaker 10: and you can come away informed or you can come 1541 01:11:06,652 --> 01:11:12,053 Speaker 10: away brain dead. How you receive that information, I guess 1542 01:11:12,133 --> 01:11:13,573 Speaker 10: is entirely up to the individual. 1543 01:11:15,173 --> 01:11:15,333 Speaker 6: You know. 1544 01:11:15,532 --> 01:11:18,452 Speaker 10: But but going back to your point, Matt, just a 1545 01:11:18,572 --> 01:11:20,093 Speaker 10: few calls. 1546 01:11:19,853 --> 01:11:21,652 Speaker 6: Ago, you're talking about Scooby Doo. 1547 01:11:24,412 --> 01:11:29,652 Speaker 10: You know, kids don't have critical thoughts. It hasn't developed 1548 01:11:29,652 --> 01:11:33,253 Speaker 10: as much as perhaps it should as we've become adults. 1549 01:11:33,372 --> 01:11:33,892 Speaker 2: That's good point. 1550 01:11:33,973 --> 01:11:35,852 Speaker 6: A lot of people, a lot of people still haven't 1551 01:11:35,893 --> 01:11:37,293 Speaker 6: got critical thought. But there we go. 1552 01:11:38,572 --> 01:11:39,013 Speaker 9: You know, So. 1553 01:11:40,692 --> 01:11:42,612 Speaker 10: I was I'm a product of the seventies and eighties, 1554 01:11:42,652 --> 01:11:45,293 Speaker 10: So I was watching Chips and JUKESA Hazard, a night Rider, 1555 01:11:45,333 --> 01:11:48,692 Speaker 10: which you mentioned, and at the time, I couldn't wait 1556 01:11:48,772 --> 01:11:50,652 Speaker 10: for the Sunday to come around because I sit down 1557 01:11:50,692 --> 01:11:53,812 Speaker 10: and I was waiting to watch the by Man apparently 1558 01:11:53,893 --> 01:11:58,093 Speaker 10: run fast in slow motion, and you know, waiting for 1559 01:11:58,213 --> 01:12:01,293 Speaker 10: the turbo boosts kick would go flying over a pothole 1560 01:12:01,412 --> 01:12:03,492 Speaker 10: or whatever it is. And then you look at it 1561 01:12:03,612 --> 01:12:05,772 Speaker 10: now on YouTube, or you see it on a different 1562 01:12:07,612 --> 01:12:10,012 Speaker 10: retro channel or whatever, you think, what was I thinking? 1563 01:12:11,452 --> 01:12:14,692 Speaker 10: You know, this is just absolute crap. But but you 1564 01:12:14,772 --> 01:12:18,053 Speaker 10: didn't have you didn't have that thought process when you're 1565 01:12:18,093 --> 01:12:19,852 Speaker 10: watching it the first time round, when you're ten or 1566 01:12:19,893 --> 01:12:20,612 Speaker 10: twelve years old. 1567 01:12:21,853 --> 01:12:24,973 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's that commonality of that content of 1568 01:12:25,053 --> 01:12:27,012 Speaker 3: old as well. That you mentioned some of those shows, 1569 01:12:27,053 --> 01:12:29,372 Speaker 3: and there's always moments and those shows that everybody's very 1570 01:12:29,452 --> 01:12:32,013 Speaker 3: excited by because you know it's going to come the 1571 01:12:32,173 --> 01:12:34,333 Speaker 3: next week, that's something dramatic is going to happen. But 1572 01:12:34,412 --> 01:12:36,732 Speaker 3: the whole nation, if you're into that show, watches it 1573 01:12:36,812 --> 01:12:39,053 Speaker 3: at the same time and becomes a talking point. The 1574 01:12:39,133 --> 01:12:42,652 Speaker 3: problem now with this excess of content is that doesn't 1575 01:12:42,652 --> 01:12:45,412 Speaker 3: happen anymore. I mean that we share some content that 1576 01:12:45,532 --> 01:12:48,293 Speaker 3: goes viral when most people watch, but when it comes 1577 01:12:48,333 --> 01:12:49,732 Speaker 3: to TV shows, very rare. 1578 01:12:51,173 --> 01:12:53,772 Speaker 2: Thanks for you cool, Blair. Yeah yeah, I mean that's 1579 01:12:54,093 --> 01:12:57,213 Speaker 2: absolutely the case. So everyone would watch whatever TV show 1580 01:12:57,293 --> 01:12:58,452 Speaker 2: was on and the anyone could talk about it, so 1581 01:12:58,532 --> 01:13:00,412 Speaker 2: they had the shared experience the next day. But what 1582 01:13:00,532 --> 01:13:02,452 Speaker 2: Blair is saying is absolutely true. When you were little, 1583 01:13:02,492 --> 01:13:04,213 Speaker 2: you can just watch the same thing over and over 1584 01:13:04,293 --> 01:13:06,333 Speaker 2: and over and over and over and over and over again. Yeah, 1585 01:13:06,853 --> 01:13:10,213 Speaker 2: because you you don't really have that, you don't really 1586 01:13:10,812 --> 01:13:11,932 Speaker 2: know if something's good or bad. 1587 01:13:12,013 --> 01:13:15,972 Speaker 3: It's just one so true right beg very shortly. Nine 1588 01:13:16,053 --> 01:13:18,253 Speaker 3: two ninety two is the text. It is nine to 1589 01:13:18,372 --> 01:13:21,572 Speaker 3: three the issues that affect you and a. 1590 01:13:21,612 --> 01:13:23,972 Speaker 1: Bit of fun along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler 1591 01:13:24,013 --> 01:13:26,333 Speaker 1: Adams Afternoons News TALKSB. 1592 01:13:27,053 --> 01:13:28,892 Speaker 3: News TALKSB. It is six to three. 1593 01:13:29,253 --> 01:13:31,892 Speaker 5: Are you ready to crack the Scoda code? 1594 01:13:33,173 --> 01:13:33,412 Speaker 10: Yes? 1595 01:13:33,612 --> 01:13:35,972 Speaker 3: If you've been to the Scoter website for today's Scoter 1596 01:13:36,133 --> 01:13:39,612 Speaker 3: code but needs some help, here is today's clue. 1597 01:13:40,093 --> 01:13:44,932 Speaker 2: Break free, even if only for a moment. That clue again, 1598 01:13:45,372 --> 01:13:48,093 Speaker 2: break free, even if only for a moment. 1599 01:13:48,452 --> 01:13:51,572 Speaker 3: Interesting, So make sure you're in to win a trip 1600 01:13:51,692 --> 01:13:55,652 Speaker 3: for two to the Tour de France. Go to Scoder 1601 01:13:55,853 --> 01:13:59,572 Speaker 3: dot co dot nz. That is Scoter dot co dot nz. 1602 01:13:59,732 --> 01:14:01,533 Speaker 3: Can I just say I was pretty heavy with that pronunciation, 1603 01:14:01,933 --> 01:14:04,012 Speaker 3: Tour de poor de France. 1604 01:14:04,093 --> 01:14:08,972 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, if sort of fro in the e Frans 1605 01:14:09,253 --> 01:14:14,372 Speaker 2: Franz Frans don't roll the R and D like du h, 1606 01:14:15,612 --> 01:14:16,973 Speaker 2: and maybe tour like t o. 1607 01:14:18,772 --> 01:14:21,692 Speaker 3: Al Right, I'll do some more practice tonight. Yeah, but 1608 01:14:21,772 --> 01:14:24,013 Speaker 3: what a fantastic price. So just go to Skoda dot 1609 01:14:24,093 --> 01:14:27,173 Speaker 3: co dot n z and give you best answer to 1610 01:14:27,253 --> 01:14:29,052 Speaker 3: go on the drawer. Let's go back to our discussion 1611 01:14:29,053 --> 01:14:29,612 Speaker 3: about YouTube. 1612 01:14:29,652 --> 01:14:31,412 Speaker 2: I have this little dogle thing called the brick. I've 1613 01:14:31,412 --> 01:14:33,293 Speaker 2: seen this advertised. Tap my phone on it and it 1614 01:14:33,612 --> 01:14:35,772 Speaker 2: locks my phone out of social media of whatever app. 1615 01:14:35,812 --> 01:14:37,812 Speaker 2: So I choose until I tap the brick again. I 1616 01:14:37,893 --> 01:14:39,572 Speaker 2: tap the brick in the car before I go to work, 1617 01:14:39,652 --> 01:14:40,692 Speaker 2: and leave the brick in my car. 1618 01:14:41,093 --> 01:14:41,293 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1619 01:14:41,372 --> 01:14:44,612 Speaker 2: People swear by this, and it's the physical act. It's 1620 01:14:44,772 --> 01:14:46,772 Speaker 2: just another barrier to get in before you go into 1621 01:14:46,893 --> 01:14:50,612 Speaker 2: this doom scrolling rubbish. So yeah, I've heard really good 1622 01:14:50,612 --> 01:14:51,492 Speaker 2: things about the brick. 1623 01:14:51,732 --> 01:14:52,732 Speaker 3: Yeah, it could work. 1624 01:14:53,732 --> 01:14:53,972 Speaker 2: Mark. 1625 01:14:54,013 --> 01:14:55,333 Speaker 3: We've got about sixty seconds. 1626 01:14:57,772 --> 01:14:59,612 Speaker 6: I'll like to go and google us to go on YouTube. 1627 01:14:59,692 --> 01:15:00,853 Speaker 12: No, how to get more times. 1628 01:15:02,253 --> 01:15:03,852 Speaker 3: You're into your DIY videos. 1629 01:15:04,253 --> 01:15:05,532 Speaker 2: You've got the TikTok links. 1630 01:15:07,893 --> 01:15:08,692 Speaker 4: Like the pre it is called. 1631 01:15:08,732 --> 01:15:10,973 Speaker 8: I grew up in the Bornum seventies, grow up in 1632 01:15:10,973 --> 01:15:13,812 Speaker 8: the eighties, and I use YouTube for a lot of 1633 01:15:14,093 --> 01:15:15,892 Speaker 8: bit of di y, you know, so I can save 1634 01:15:15,973 --> 01:15:17,372 Speaker 8: money on plumbing and stuff like that. 1635 01:15:17,772 --> 01:15:18,852 Speaker 15: So that's always helped out. 1636 01:15:18,933 --> 01:15:21,933 Speaker 8: I haven't passed the electrician side of it yet, and 1637 01:15:21,933 --> 01:15:24,053 Speaker 8: I thought I'll leave that to professionals. But I'm a 1638 01:15:24,173 --> 01:15:26,452 Speaker 8: history buff. I like learning about things and all that 1639 01:15:26,532 --> 01:15:30,093 Speaker 8: sort of stuff. I sort of a few years ago 1640 01:15:30,173 --> 01:15:33,093 Speaker 8: introduce my kids to night Rider and Chips and all 1641 01:15:33,093 --> 01:15:36,013 Speaker 8: that jicks aheads and stuff like that. They were like 1642 01:15:36,093 --> 01:15:38,293 Speaker 8: thirteen and fourteen and all they could do was pick 1643 01:15:38,372 --> 01:15:41,253 Speaker 8: Bolton how bad it was, and they could spot the 1644 01:15:41,333 --> 01:15:42,173 Speaker 8: camera in the car. 1645 01:15:42,652 --> 01:15:43,852 Speaker 6: So they sort of ruined that for me. 1646 01:15:44,053 --> 01:15:47,812 Speaker 8: So now whenever they watch TV or married up for 1647 01:15:47,893 --> 01:15:49,412 Speaker 8: a sight or something like that, I just sit there 1648 01:15:49,412 --> 01:15:51,093 Speaker 8: and pack holes in it and tell them it's not real. 1649 01:15:53,732 --> 01:15:55,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know. 1650 01:15:55,612 --> 01:15:57,893 Speaker 8: YouTube, there is some shitty, dodgy stuff in there, but 1651 01:15:58,333 --> 01:16:00,612 Speaker 8: that depends on your algorithm. If you're always typing and 1652 01:16:01,333 --> 01:16:03,293 Speaker 8: you know weird stuff, you're always going to find it. 1653 01:16:03,372 --> 01:16:05,772 Speaker 6: But I use it every now and then. 1654 01:16:06,053 --> 01:16:09,093 Speaker 8: I like going back watching the whole programs documentary. 1655 01:16:09,452 --> 01:16:10,293 Speaker 2: Good on your Mark. 1656 01:16:10,532 --> 01:16:11,652 Speaker 3: Yep, that's the good Starry. 1657 01:16:11,652 --> 01:16:13,452 Speaker 2: I have to cut you off. We're running out of time. 1658 01:16:13,572 --> 01:16:16,452 Speaker 3: Yeah, great discussion, Thank you very much. Coming up after 1659 01:16:16,612 --> 01:16:20,213 Speaker 3: three o'clock. Can you ever come back from cheating? Great 1660 01:16:20,333 --> 01:16:24,492 Speaker 3: interview post interview with an Olympic gold medal winner. We'll 1661 01:16:24,492 --> 01:16:25,372 Speaker 3: tell you more very shortly. 1662 01:16:25,452 --> 01:16:26,852 Speaker 2: You're just trying to keep people hooked. 1663 01:16:28,133 --> 01:16:30,852 Speaker 5: Your home for insightful and entertaining Talk. 1664 01:16:31,013 --> 01:16:34,612 Speaker 1: It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons with Skoda on 1665 01:16:34,812 --> 01:16:36,053 Speaker 1: News TALKSB. 1666 01:16:36,692 --> 01:16:40,213 Speaker 3: Afternoon to you. Welcome back into the program, great Avia company. 1667 01:16:40,253 --> 01:16:42,613 Speaker 3: As always, Let's have a chat about this. An extraordinary 1668 01:16:42,732 --> 01:16:46,612 Speaker 3: post win interview from an Norwegian Olympic by athlete. His 1669 01:16:46,772 --> 01:16:49,892 Speaker 3: name is Stirla lag Red and he confessed on live 1670 01:16:49,973 --> 01:16:53,412 Speaker 3: television to cheating on his girlfriend moments after winning bronze 1671 01:16:53,772 --> 01:16:57,333 Speaker 3: in the Winter Olympics. So he did this interview in 1672 01:16:57,452 --> 01:17:01,133 Speaker 3: his native Norwegian language. We have translated it and we 1673 01:17:01,293 --> 01:17:02,172 Speaker 3: have the script. 1674 01:17:02,732 --> 01:17:05,492 Speaker 2: I'll read the script as him as what's his name? 1675 01:17:05,612 --> 01:17:09,733 Speaker 2: His name is stoiler Homligrid storl a Homogod. 1676 01:17:09,853 --> 01:17:12,653 Speaker 3: I think that's pretty close. Any Norwegian listeners. 1677 01:17:12,412 --> 01:17:18,213 Speaker 2: Stall Homogrid is t u r l A h O 1678 01:17:18,572 --> 01:17:22,053 Speaker 2: l m l A e g r E I D Yeah, 1679 01:17:22,173 --> 01:17:24,692 Speaker 2: this close enough? Isn't it close enough? All right? And 1680 01:17:25,013 --> 01:17:27,532 Speaker 2: you said he was a biathlete. Is that a sexual 1681 01:17:27,692 --> 01:17:30,532 Speaker 2: preference or is he a biathlon competitor? 1682 01:17:30,572 --> 01:17:31,572 Speaker 3: I think a little bit of both. 1683 01:17:31,732 --> 01:17:31,972 Speaker 4: Maybe. 1684 01:17:32,173 --> 01:17:35,572 Speaker 2: Yeah, he goes here, we go, okay. I want to 1685 01:17:35,692 --> 01:17:39,333 Speaker 2: thank everyone who has helped me. And there's someone I 1686 01:17:39,452 --> 01:17:42,452 Speaker 2: want to share this with who may not be watching today? 1687 01:17:42,612 --> 01:17:43,932 Speaker 2: Is that a Norwegian kind. 1688 01:17:43,772 --> 01:17:44,732 Speaker 3: Of so far, so good? 1689 01:17:44,812 --> 01:17:47,173 Speaker 2: Yeah? Six months ago I met the love of my 1690 01:17:47,293 --> 01:17:53,652 Speaker 2: life and most beautiful, most wonderful person in the world. 1691 01:17:54,532 --> 01:17:56,492 Speaker 2: And three months ago I made the biggest mistake of 1692 01:17:56,572 --> 01:18:00,452 Speaker 2: my life and cheated on her. He didn't laugh, No, 1693 01:18:00,532 --> 01:18:03,612 Speaker 2: he cried at Yeah, he was crying, not laughing, And 1694 01:18:03,772 --> 01:18:05,812 Speaker 2: that's all I have been thinking about for a week 1695 01:18:05,973 --> 01:18:08,452 Speaker 2: and it's been the worst week of my life. So 1696 01:18:08,572 --> 01:18:11,293 Speaker 2: I had to gold medal in my life. I'm sure 1697 01:18:11,333 --> 01:18:13,933 Speaker 2: there are many people out there now see me in 1698 01:18:14,093 --> 01:18:17,692 Speaker 2: different light, but I only have eyes for her. I 1699 01:18:17,772 --> 01:18:19,973 Speaker 2: don't know what I want to achieve by saying this, 1700 01:18:20,612 --> 01:18:23,372 Speaker 2: but sports have been in a different line in recent days, 1701 01:18:23,812 --> 01:18:27,093 Speaker 2: so I wish I could share it with her. You 1702 01:18:27,213 --> 01:18:29,532 Speaker 2: have to admit when you do something you can't stand 1703 01:18:29,612 --> 01:18:32,612 Speaker 2: for and hurt someone you loved so much. I want 1704 01:18:32,732 --> 01:18:35,572 Speaker 2: to be a good role model, but I have to 1705 01:18:35,652 --> 01:18:39,173 Speaker 2: admit when I get something wrong. You'll never know how 1706 01:18:39,213 --> 01:18:41,932 Speaker 2: many chances you get. And I don't think I get 1707 01:18:41,973 --> 01:18:44,612 Speaker 2: another chance at true love like I had with her. 1708 01:18:45,492 --> 01:18:49,012 Speaker 2: But I am willing to do anything. I am willing 1709 01:18:49,053 --> 01:18:52,572 Speaker 2: to drop a nuclear bomb on the National Broadcasting Corporation. Well, 1710 01:18:52,572 --> 01:18:57,213 Speaker 2: they're really escalated m and commit social suicide and be 1711 01:18:57,333 --> 01:19:00,452 Speaker 2: hated by everyone, because I am already hated by her, 1712 01:19:00,893 --> 01:19:03,692 Speaker 2: and I hope that maybe it can make her realize 1713 01:19:03,973 --> 01:19:05,452 Speaker 2: how much I'd love her. 1714 01:19:05,973 --> 01:19:07,933 Speaker 3: There was beautiful, there was lightless thing to win her 1715 01:19:07,973 --> 01:19:11,053 Speaker 3: his or now rated documentary. I felt calmed by that, 1716 01:19:11,293 --> 01:19:12,852 Speaker 3: even though it was quite a bombshell. 1717 01:19:12,973 --> 01:19:16,612 Speaker 2: I think it sort of traversed several nationalities at different 1718 01:19:16,652 --> 01:19:20,293 Speaker 2: points through my I listened to what he had to say, 1719 01:19:20,612 --> 01:19:23,172 Speaker 2: and I tried to potatoes accent as best as as 1720 01:19:23,213 --> 01:19:26,852 Speaker 2: I could. Stulla, Yeah, Stulla humbler guard, and. 1721 01:19:26,893 --> 01:19:29,253 Speaker 3: I think you did a fantastic job. So it is 1722 01:19:29,253 --> 01:19:33,732 Speaker 3: an extraordinary outburst after there's some great teaks coming through 1723 01:19:33,853 --> 01:19:34,572 Speaker 3: nineteen ninet two. 1724 01:19:35,372 --> 01:19:39,333 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, reviews for my Norwegian accent not like I'm 1725 01:19:39,372 --> 01:19:42,093 Speaker 2: going to say. That's probably with sitting in one star 1726 01:19:42,253 --> 01:19:44,333 Speaker 2: situation at a warm at the moment that they might 1727 01:19:44,372 --> 01:19:45,812 Speaker 2: eat up. The reviews have been terrible. 1728 01:19:45,933 --> 01:19:48,013 Speaker 3: Yeah, But he also followed that up clearly when he 1729 01:19:48,412 --> 01:19:52,253 Speaker 3: said those things to the Norwegian National Broadcasting Corporation. They 1730 01:19:52,293 --> 01:19:55,852 Speaker 3: were followed up in his post when conference and here's 1731 01:19:55,853 --> 01:19:56,973 Speaker 3: a little bit of what he said to that. 1732 01:19:57,933 --> 01:20:00,452 Speaker 22: Really, I don't know if it's the right choice or not, 1733 01:20:01,933 --> 01:20:05,492 Speaker 22: but it what's the choice I made. We make different 1734 01:20:05,572 --> 01:20:06,293 Speaker 22: choices during our. 1735 01:20:06,253 --> 01:20:07,093 Speaker 6: Life and the. 1736 01:20:08,612 --> 01:20:11,812 Speaker 22: That's how you make life basically. So today I made 1737 01:20:11,853 --> 01:20:15,933 Speaker 22: the choice to tell the world what I did. So 1738 01:20:16,253 --> 01:20:22,612 Speaker 22: maybe maybe there's a chance that she will see what 1739 01:20:22,812 --> 01:20:27,852 Speaker 22: she really means to me, and maybe not. But I 1740 01:20:28,213 --> 01:20:32,333 Speaker 22: don't want to think I didn't try everything to get 1741 01:20:32,372 --> 01:20:35,972 Speaker 22: her back. So yeah, again you want I don't want 1742 01:20:35,973 --> 01:20:39,452 Speaker 22: to steal the show today. I hope, I hope this 1743 01:20:39,612 --> 01:20:43,372 Speaker 22: is just like a day or two long thing. And 1744 01:20:43,492 --> 01:20:45,572 Speaker 22: then then your Olympic al medalist forever? 1745 01:20:46,692 --> 01:20:48,213 Speaker 2: Is that still me? Do it talking? 1746 01:20:48,293 --> 01:20:50,213 Speaker 3: Then I thought, yeah, I mean listening to that, you 1747 01:20:50,333 --> 01:20:51,372 Speaker 3: did very well, mate. 1748 01:20:51,372 --> 01:20:55,173 Speaker 2: Swedish listener here, mate, that's an absolutely shocking noige in accent. 1749 01:20:55,893 --> 01:20:59,333 Speaker 2: You sound like a Horney Frenchman. I think that's a 1750 01:20:59,372 --> 01:21:02,733 Speaker 2: positive review if you sound like a Horney Frenchman byrons 1751 01:21:02,853 --> 01:21:06,532 Speaker 2: his please stop the excent, bro never never, I was 1752 01:21:06,612 --> 01:21:09,732 Speaker 2: gonna because you take that. I'll go back into the accident. 1753 01:21:10,013 --> 01:21:12,173 Speaker 2: A couple of points I would like to say about 1754 01:21:13,053 --> 01:21:15,173 Speaker 2: this guy. And you can feel us pain, you know, 1755 01:21:15,293 --> 01:21:17,972 Speaker 2: he's at the top of a sport. Well it's bronze, 1756 01:21:18,652 --> 01:21:20,852 Speaker 2: so third from the top of a sport, so very impressive, 1757 01:21:21,893 --> 01:21:25,772 Speaker 2: but because of his heartbreak, he can't enjoy it. But 1758 01:21:25,893 --> 01:21:27,812 Speaker 2: they were only together for six months, and he cheated 1759 01:21:27,893 --> 01:21:29,612 Speaker 2: on her three months ago, so they do only begin 1760 01:21:29,692 --> 01:21:31,772 Speaker 2: together for three months when he cheated on her, And 1761 01:21:31,973 --> 01:21:33,412 Speaker 2: is that really cheating if you've only been together for 1762 01:21:33,452 --> 01:21:33,852 Speaker 2: three months? 1763 01:21:34,612 --> 01:21:35,772 Speaker 3: Still on the honeymoon stage. 1764 01:21:36,893 --> 01:21:40,213 Speaker 2: But that's my first question. My second question is can 1765 01:21:40,293 --> 01:21:44,053 Speaker 2: you come back from cheating? I mean, this is a 1766 01:21:44,093 --> 01:21:47,213 Speaker 2: sort of grand romantic statement on the world stage, and 1767 01:21:47,293 --> 01:21:50,253 Speaker 2: it's arguably the biggest story in the world right now. 1768 01:21:50,412 --> 01:21:51,612 Speaker 3: It is, it's getting attention. 1769 01:21:51,973 --> 01:21:55,053 Speaker 2: So he has addressed the issue of his cheating very 1770 01:21:55,173 --> 01:22:00,213 Speaker 2: very publicly and very spectacularly. Is that enough for her 1771 01:22:00,372 --> 01:22:04,093 Speaker 2: to forgive him? It'll be interesting to see and do. 1772 01:22:04,452 --> 01:22:06,652 Speaker 2: If someone's cheated on you, do you want them to 1773 01:22:06,812 --> 01:22:12,612 Speaker 2: publicly announce it? Because isn't part of the when you 1774 01:22:12,732 --> 01:22:16,852 Speaker 2: get cheated on? Isn't part of it that I don't 1775 01:22:16,853 --> 01:22:18,173 Speaker 2: I wouldn't know, I don't know what. No one would 1776 01:22:18,213 --> 01:22:20,893 Speaker 2: have a cheat on me, but I'm too great? But 1777 01:22:21,853 --> 01:22:26,092 Speaker 2: isn't part of it that you. You know, the shame 1778 01:22:26,173 --> 01:22:28,652 Speaker 2: of it because you feel like they've chosen someone else 1779 01:22:29,013 --> 01:22:31,532 Speaker 2: and there's people gossiping about you. So does it make 1780 01:22:31,612 --> 01:22:34,492 Speaker 2: things better when the entire world now knows that he 1781 01:22:34,612 --> 01:22:35,093 Speaker 2: cheated on you. 1782 01:22:35,412 --> 01:22:38,612 Speaker 3: It felt like a hail Mary situation has final shot 1783 01:22:38,612 --> 01:22:40,333 Speaker 3: at it. But I got to say, if Sterla was 1784 01:22:40,372 --> 01:22:43,372 Speaker 3: my lover for six months and then Sterla went and 1785 01:22:43,492 --> 01:22:45,612 Speaker 3: cheated on me and he won his bronze, I mean 1786 01:22:45,652 --> 01:22:47,692 Speaker 3: it's only bronze. He could have got a gold. But 1787 01:22:47,812 --> 01:22:52,093 Speaker 3: then he went and told Norwegian TV that I really 1788 01:22:52,133 --> 01:22:55,052 Speaker 3: miss you, Tyler, I made a mistake, please come back. 1789 01:22:55,013 --> 01:22:56,932 Speaker 2: After saying he will drop a nuclear bomb on them. 1790 01:22:58,173 --> 01:23:01,652 Speaker 3: Then I think it was a metaphorical I would be mortified, 1791 01:23:01,853 --> 01:23:05,572 Speaker 3: but like Sterla, you numb scale. Nobody needed to know this. 1792 01:23:05,853 --> 01:23:08,973 Speaker 3: You've you've stuffed up and now you've stuck again. So 1793 01:23:09,093 --> 01:23:12,493 Speaker 3: I'm more embarrassed because everybody knows that you're a scumbag 1794 01:23:12,572 --> 01:23:13,412 Speaker 3: and you cheated on me. 1795 01:23:14,053 --> 01:23:17,372 Speaker 2: I wanted that kept under wraps because I'm afraumatized. Make 1796 01:23:17,532 --> 01:23:20,933 Speaker 2: the big dramatic hu grant at the end of a 1797 01:23:21,053 --> 01:23:25,492 Speaker 2: rom com public speech, but don't mention the cheating. Yep, 1798 01:23:25,732 --> 01:23:29,533 Speaker 2: just say, I truly love you, and I've made some mistakes, 1799 01:23:29,572 --> 01:23:31,772 Speaker 2: but I want to make it right because I've experienced 1800 01:23:31,812 --> 01:23:35,333 Speaker 2: true love and whilst I've only got a bronze here, 1801 01:23:35,692 --> 01:23:37,652 Speaker 2: your love was gold and I can't let you go. 1802 01:23:38,133 --> 01:23:41,492 Speaker 2: Don't mention that you, you know, were faffing around with 1803 01:23:41,532 --> 01:23:42,173 Speaker 2: another lady. 1804 01:23:42,333 --> 01:23:43,772 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a mistake. 1805 01:23:43,893 --> 01:23:44,093 Speaker 10: Yeah. 1806 01:23:44,173 --> 01:23:46,612 Speaker 3: And if anyone asked you, yeah, it's a great strategy. 1807 01:23:46,612 --> 01:23:48,013 Speaker 3: And if anyone asked, well, what do you mean by that? 1808 01:23:48,093 --> 01:23:50,293 Speaker 3: You shut it down and say she'll know. I'm not 1809 01:23:50,333 --> 01:23:51,772 Speaker 3: going to say anything more. But what do you say? 1810 01:23:51,812 --> 01:23:51,892 Speaker 14: Oh? 1811 01:23:51,933 --> 01:23:54,892 Speaker 3: One hundred and eighty ten eighty can you ever come 1812 01:23:54,973 --> 01:23:57,293 Speaker 3: back from being cheated on? I love to your thoughts? 1813 01:23:57,412 --> 01:23:59,173 Speaker 3: Nine two ninety two as the text as well. 1814 01:24:00,572 --> 01:24:02,812 Speaker 2: Did the Indian Dracula just take over the show? No, 1815 01:24:03,053 --> 01:24:04,372 Speaker 2: it was a Norwegian accent. 1816 01:24:04,612 --> 01:24:07,532 Speaker 3: Come old people, come od it is fourteen parts three. 1817 01:24:07,572 --> 01:24:10,692 Speaker 3: Back in the month, news Talk said, be seventeen past 1818 01:24:10,732 --> 01:24:14,453 Speaker 3: three and we're talking about this Norwegian Olympic bronze medalist. 1819 01:24:14,652 --> 01:24:18,013 Speaker 3: He admitted on National TV straight after his win that 1820 01:24:18,133 --> 01:24:20,293 Speaker 3: he cheated on his girlfriend. He was very sorry and 1821 01:24:20,532 --> 01:24:22,852 Speaker 3: he had hoped she'd watch and she would welcome him 1822 01:24:22,853 --> 01:24:25,213 Speaker 3: back with open arms. So what's the best way to. 1823 01:24:26,853 --> 01:24:29,892 Speaker 2: Find your way back into someone's hard if you've cheated 1824 01:24:29,973 --> 01:24:32,173 Speaker 2: on them? What's the best strategy? Is there a way back? 1825 01:24:32,253 --> 01:24:33,372 Speaker 3: It's a great well you need to do? 1826 01:24:33,532 --> 01:24:36,253 Speaker 2: How do you pay? How do you pay your penance? 1827 01:24:36,372 --> 01:24:38,333 Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that 1828 01:24:38,492 --> 01:24:39,093 Speaker 3: number to call? 1829 01:24:39,253 --> 01:24:41,213 Speaker 2: The six says it is. It is never wise to 1830 01:24:41,253 --> 01:24:44,173 Speaker 2: publicly announce you have dipped your banana in another fruit bowl. 1831 01:24:44,692 --> 01:24:49,452 Speaker 2: He will not get the melons anymore. Okay, love a 1832 01:24:49,492 --> 01:24:52,053 Speaker 2: fruit analogy. I gonta know what you're trying to say 1833 01:24:52,093 --> 01:24:53,333 Speaker 2: that Hey your melanicking. 1834 01:24:55,372 --> 01:24:57,972 Speaker 3: Hey, hey guys, hey nice chat. 1835 01:24:58,812 --> 01:25:03,572 Speaker 13: Yeah yeah, yeah, thanks for having me. I part of 1836 01:25:03,652 --> 01:25:08,093 Speaker 13: his making that his speek, whether he knows it or not. 1837 01:25:08,532 --> 01:25:14,052 Speaker 13: Part of the accountability. I know somebody that hasn't happened 1838 01:25:14,053 --> 01:25:18,372 Speaker 13: to me. But they they did cheat. They did come 1839 01:25:18,452 --> 01:25:21,532 Speaker 13: back from cheating, but they had to. They were very 1840 01:25:21,572 --> 01:25:24,612 Speaker 13: good with their self worth, and they went to psychologists 1841 01:25:24,732 --> 01:25:27,892 Speaker 13: and they actually found out their core reason of why 1842 01:25:28,013 --> 01:25:29,692 Speaker 13: they were a cheating. You know, you have to drink 1843 01:25:29,772 --> 01:25:33,572 Speaker 13: deep on this sometimes. But part of it is that 1844 01:25:33,812 --> 01:25:37,412 Speaker 13: person did tell quite a few people because it was 1845 01:25:37,532 --> 01:25:40,892 Speaker 13: part of like, yeah, yeah, you'd hit drop bottom anyway, 1846 01:25:41,492 --> 01:25:43,812 Speaker 13: so you know, there can't be any worse than that. 1847 01:25:43,973 --> 01:25:48,053 Speaker 13: But as it is, it is part of being accountable, 1848 01:25:48,213 --> 01:25:51,133 Speaker 13: part of only it and when you when you're doing that, 1849 01:25:51,612 --> 01:25:54,213 Speaker 13: when you're actually on the road to actually wheeling the 1850 01:25:54,452 --> 01:25:57,492 Speaker 13: core reason why you're a cheating in the first place, 1851 01:25:57,612 --> 01:25:58,532 Speaker 13: that's the main thing. 1852 01:25:58,652 --> 01:26:02,612 Speaker 2: Guy, do you think So there might be a problem Melanie, 1853 01:26:02,893 --> 01:26:07,333 Speaker 2: for the lady involved, and that that now it's been 1854 01:26:07,412 --> 01:26:10,093 Speaker 2: made for public, the whole world is asking who she 1855 01:26:10,333 --> 01:26:13,852 Speaker 2: is and then potentially against her will because it doesn't 1856 01:26:13,853 --> 01:26:16,692 Speaker 2: sound like he's raised it with her before. Their issue 1857 01:26:16,732 --> 01:26:19,812 Speaker 2: has now become global news, to the point a couple 1858 01:26:19,812 --> 01:26:21,772 Speaker 2: of wounders here in New Zealand are talking about it 1859 01:26:21,893 --> 01:26:24,013 Speaker 2: on a radio show. You know what, you know what 1860 01:26:24,013 --> 01:26:26,412 Speaker 2: I'm saying, Yeah, I definitely do. 1861 01:26:27,013 --> 01:26:32,492 Speaker 13: And for her that could be like being in the public, 1862 01:26:32,612 --> 01:26:37,133 Speaker 13: it's too much and then she probably will get shased around. Yeah, 1863 01:26:39,213 --> 01:26:42,772 Speaker 13: But for him, he I think he's just trying to 1864 01:26:42,893 --> 01:26:46,892 Speaker 13: show that he wants to do the work and try 1865 01:26:46,973 --> 01:26:50,412 Speaker 13: and heal this. But I definitely, I definitely get what 1866 01:26:50,572 --> 01:26:56,532 Speaker 13: you mean because she probably also feels possibly a bit 1867 01:26:56,652 --> 01:26:59,532 Speaker 13: more obliged to go back to him, if you know 1868 01:26:59,652 --> 01:27:01,932 Speaker 13: what I mean, because it's now public. 1869 01:27:02,213 --> 01:27:05,412 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, well, at least to have to have to 1870 01:27:05,492 --> 01:27:07,852 Speaker 2: deal with it. There'll be so much pressure on her 1871 01:27:07,933 --> 01:27:10,732 Speaker 2: for a lead to say yes or no, rather than 1872 01:27:10,973 --> 01:27:13,772 Speaker 2: arguably she could just wash her hands with him completely. 1873 01:27:13,853 --> 01:27:14,893 Speaker 2: Now she has to deal with it. 1874 01:27:16,333 --> 01:27:18,532 Speaker 13: Yes, now she has to deal with it. But who 1875 01:27:18,612 --> 01:27:22,013 Speaker 13: knows what the biggest picture is, Like we don't know 1876 01:27:22,213 --> 01:27:24,812 Speaker 13: all the ins and outs. It was a short a 1877 01:27:24,893 --> 01:27:29,573 Speaker 13: short relationship, but but you know that that doesn't necessarily 1878 01:27:29,732 --> 01:27:33,613 Speaker 13: mean that that's not great love there or potential potential 1879 01:27:33,732 --> 01:27:37,052 Speaker 13: for great love. He wants to get over this hurdle. 1880 01:27:37,732 --> 01:27:39,213 Speaker 2: Do you think he comes across as a bit of 1881 01:27:39,213 --> 01:27:41,812 Speaker 2: a weirdo because they've only known each other for six months, 1882 01:27:41,853 --> 01:27:45,093 Speaker 2: he cheated on our own after three months, and now 1883 01:27:45,253 --> 01:27:50,133 Speaker 2: he's publicly brought this up and quite an intense way. 1884 01:27:51,412 --> 01:27:55,292 Speaker 13: So I think I could see I could yeah, definitely possibly, 1885 01:27:55,492 --> 01:27:58,692 Speaker 13: And also I could see some people thinking that making 1886 01:27:59,013 --> 01:28:01,532 Speaker 13: possibly might be a bit of a control break, you 1887 01:28:01,652 --> 01:28:04,333 Speaker 13: know what I mean, Like a little bit like it's 1888 01:28:04,452 --> 01:28:05,692 Speaker 13: my way or the highway. 1889 01:28:06,732 --> 01:28:10,013 Speaker 3: Yeah. So do you think the generally you can come 1890 01:28:10,093 --> 01:28:12,612 Speaker 3: back from cheating on someone if you're accountable, open about it. 1891 01:28:12,732 --> 01:28:16,213 Speaker 3: Maybe not the strategy this fellow's used, but you but 1892 01:28:16,333 --> 01:28:17,053 Speaker 3: you think you can. 1893 01:28:18,492 --> 01:28:22,093 Speaker 13: I do know somebody very close to me that has 1894 01:28:22,652 --> 01:28:27,532 Speaker 13: come back from cheating. It's a very yeah. I've seen 1895 01:28:27,612 --> 01:28:30,253 Speaker 13: the process that that this person has gone through. 1896 01:28:30,253 --> 01:28:30,293 Speaker 22: It. 1897 01:28:30,372 --> 01:28:34,333 Speaker 13: There has been a lot of psychology, you know, going 1898 01:28:34,372 --> 01:28:40,652 Speaker 13: to a psycho psychotherapist, psychiatrist working on core wounds, changing 1899 01:28:40,692 --> 01:28:44,932 Speaker 13: a lot of behaviors, a lot a lot of work 1900 01:28:45,452 --> 01:28:49,652 Speaker 13: has gone god on and it has proven it has 1901 01:28:49,732 --> 01:28:54,612 Speaker 13: been a very, very long time consuming process. But this 1902 01:28:54,893 --> 01:28:59,893 Speaker 13: person has come out of this a better person. And 1903 01:29:00,333 --> 01:29:04,893 Speaker 13: also back to the relations back to the relationship that 1904 01:29:05,173 --> 01:29:06,373 Speaker 13: that was involved. 1905 01:29:06,692 --> 01:29:08,253 Speaker 2: Was that one if you don't mind me asking in 1906 01:29:08,372 --> 01:29:10,692 Speaker 2: that to example, was that an affair or a one 1907 01:29:10,812 --> 01:29:12,652 Speaker 2: night stand cheating type situation? 1908 01:29:14,412 --> 01:29:15,293 Speaker 13: All of the above? 1909 01:29:16,093 --> 01:29:21,732 Speaker 2: Yeah, because because you could potentially argue that you, you know, 1910 01:29:22,853 --> 01:29:26,133 Speaker 2: in a moment of weakness, you made a mistake. But 1911 01:29:26,213 --> 01:29:28,932 Speaker 2: if someone's running an a fair and organizing things around 1912 01:29:28,973 --> 01:29:31,133 Speaker 2: behind someone's back and doing all that kind of stuff 1913 01:29:31,173 --> 01:29:33,133 Speaker 2: that would seem hard to come back from. 1914 01:29:34,013 --> 01:29:36,812 Speaker 13: I was a pattern and you'll find this in a 1915 01:29:36,853 --> 01:29:39,333 Speaker 13: lot of affairs and cheating. If you want to call 1916 01:29:39,372 --> 01:29:43,492 Speaker 13: it that that's a pattern for this person. And there 1917 01:29:44,572 --> 01:29:47,052 Speaker 13: I mean, I'm not a psychologist. I have got various 1918 01:29:47,133 --> 01:29:51,732 Speaker 13: qualifications around counseling, et cetera. But there there are col 1919 01:29:51,893 --> 01:29:54,412 Speaker 13: you know, there are core wounds. There are core like 1920 01:29:54,973 --> 01:29:59,052 Speaker 13: whether you want to call it avoidant attachment style or whatever. 1921 01:29:59,293 --> 01:30:03,652 Speaker 13: But there's probably therapists and psychologists listening now, but that 1922 01:30:03,812 --> 01:30:05,893 Speaker 13: it would be able to say it better than me. 1923 01:30:06,053 --> 01:30:12,412 Speaker 13: But yeah, so there it's never just a one It's 1924 01:30:12,572 --> 01:30:15,412 Speaker 13: really never just a one off. If you go deeper, 1925 01:30:15,492 --> 01:30:18,092 Speaker 13: you'll find that this sort of thing has happened, possibly 1926 01:30:18,532 --> 01:30:21,773 Speaker 13: with the person and previous serious relationship. 1927 01:30:22,372 --> 01:30:25,173 Speaker 2: Do you reckon if if someone forgives someone like, if 1928 01:30:25,253 --> 01:30:30,732 Speaker 2: this this lady, assuming it's a lady forgives, does she 1929 01:30:31,093 --> 01:30:33,013 Speaker 2: ever allowed to bring it up? Is forgiving meaning that 1930 01:30:33,053 --> 01:30:34,173 Speaker 2: you're not allowed to bring it up again? 1931 01:30:34,893 --> 01:30:36,372 Speaker 3: So you go, I forgive you. 1932 01:30:37,213 --> 01:30:38,572 Speaker 2: Well, you can keep bringing it up forever. 1933 01:30:39,492 --> 01:30:42,133 Speaker 13: No, it's not a person, you don't think it's a 1934 01:30:42,213 --> 01:30:44,812 Speaker 13: matter of keeping bringing it up forever. It's a more 1935 01:30:44,893 --> 01:30:49,173 Speaker 13: of let's get some different let's get some dimmunication style, 1936 01:30:50,532 --> 01:30:52,933 Speaker 13: let's work on our even if you have to have 1937 01:30:53,053 --> 01:30:58,812 Speaker 13: couples therapy to work on communicating, also understanding each other's triggers, 1938 01:30:59,013 --> 01:31:04,173 Speaker 13: each other's reactions, and it's just it can open up 1939 01:31:04,293 --> 01:31:06,933 Speaker 13: and I have seen this. It can open up for 1940 01:31:07,652 --> 01:31:14,412 Speaker 13: when the couple yet much healthier, less just functional relationship, 1941 01:31:14,532 --> 01:31:16,892 Speaker 13: if you know what I mean. Like there's all these 1942 01:31:17,133 --> 01:31:19,572 Speaker 13: really good tools and techniques that are. 1943 01:31:19,492 --> 01:31:20,133 Speaker 15: Now in you. 1944 01:31:22,412 --> 01:31:24,893 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you see what I'm saying. Say, if you 1945 01:31:25,053 --> 01:31:27,973 Speaker 2: forgive someone and then every time they're off down to 1946 01:31:28,013 --> 01:31:30,452 Speaker 2: the dairy, you say, you're not going to cheat on me? 1947 01:31:30,973 --> 01:31:31,173 Speaker 6: Are you? 1948 01:31:31,772 --> 01:31:34,012 Speaker 2: Or you know that you don't? You don't, you don't 1949 01:31:34,053 --> 01:31:35,612 Speaker 2: do the dishes and they go, could you do the 1950 01:31:35,652 --> 01:31:37,333 Speaker 2: dishes and go? Well, at least I didn't cheat on you. 1951 01:31:41,492 --> 01:31:45,133 Speaker 13: Yeah, I would personally I would always be a little 1952 01:31:45,173 --> 01:31:49,213 Speaker 13: bit weary. Yeah, but I definitely get what you mean 1953 01:31:49,293 --> 01:31:50,092 Speaker 13: that definitely. 1954 01:31:50,612 --> 01:31:50,772 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1955 01:31:50,933 --> 01:31:52,692 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for your call, Melanie. 1956 01:31:52,772 --> 01:31:55,452 Speaker 3: Yeah, what a great caller. I mean, is what what 1957 01:31:55,572 --> 01:31:57,852 Speaker 3: Melanie was saying. It's a hard and long roadback if 1958 01:31:57,853 --> 01:32:00,532 Speaker 3: you're in that situation. That's what's the return on investment 1959 01:32:00,572 --> 01:32:03,972 Speaker 3: after three months of a relationship. That's a long way back. 1960 01:32:04,053 --> 01:32:09,013 Speaker 3: For this fella stare that he's got potentially year of 1961 01:32:09,133 --> 01:32:11,053 Speaker 3: therapy before this, Gill might take him back. 1962 01:32:11,093 --> 01:32:12,812 Speaker 2: Well, could she be bothered? Though they've only seen each 1963 01:32:12,812 --> 01:32:14,452 Speaker 2: other for six months and he cheated on her after 1964 01:32:14,532 --> 01:32:16,973 Speaker 2: the first three months, so they might not have Like 1965 01:32:17,173 --> 01:32:19,052 Speaker 2: did she find out? When did she find out about? 1966 01:32:19,053 --> 01:32:21,133 Speaker 2: It was only three months and that did chances find out? 1967 01:32:21,133 --> 01:32:23,293 Speaker 2: If it straight away, in which case it's only been 1968 01:32:23,333 --> 01:32:24,293 Speaker 2: a three months relationship. 1969 01:32:24,372 --> 01:32:26,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're looking at the transcript. I think it was 1970 01:32:26,452 --> 01:32:28,652 Speaker 3: so he said, I cheated on you three months ago, 1971 01:32:28,732 --> 01:32:30,852 Speaker 3: made the biggest mistake of my life. We've been seeing 1972 01:32:30,893 --> 01:32:33,052 Speaker 3: each other for six months, so that lines up perfectly. 1973 01:32:33,652 --> 01:32:35,732 Speaker 2: How embarrassing for that poor girl. I hope she finds 1974 01:32:35,772 --> 01:32:38,213 Speaker 2: a public news platform and dumps them for the whole 1975 01:32:38,253 --> 01:32:42,612 Speaker 2: world to see. She should call a press conference and go, 1976 01:32:43,452 --> 01:32:45,892 Speaker 2: this guy's a weirdo. He's a stalker. I don't even 1977 01:32:45,973 --> 01:32:46,213 Speaker 2: like him. 1978 01:32:46,253 --> 01:32:46,732 Speaker 6: I care. 1979 01:32:47,853 --> 01:32:49,253 Speaker 3: Yeah, get a gold and come back to me. 1980 01:32:49,532 --> 01:32:55,013 Speaker 2: Just humiliate him. Yeah, I'm dating a gold Memphis is 1981 01:32:55,173 --> 01:32:55,972 Speaker 2: bronze loser. 1982 01:32:56,812 --> 01:32:59,732 Speaker 3: Just quickly on your point. I just looked up Dave Portnoy, 1983 01:32:59,973 --> 01:33:02,532 Speaker 3: you know him well, the barst Or sports ceo. He 1984 01:33:02,692 --> 01:33:05,812 Speaker 3: just posted on Twitter not long ago about this bro 1985 01:33:05,973 --> 01:33:08,292 Speaker 3: cheated on his girlfriend three months ago into the relationship 1986 01:33:08,452 --> 01:33:12,572 Speaker 3: question mark, that's like the honeymoon phase. Crimea river, brutal. 1987 01:33:13,492 --> 01:33:14,372 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, come on. 1988 01:33:15,013 --> 01:33:17,452 Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. 1989 01:33:17,692 --> 01:33:21,133 Speaker 3: He's a bit stalkeryes Have you ever made it work 1990 01:33:21,213 --> 01:33:23,492 Speaker 3: after being cheated on? Or if you were the cheatah? 1991 01:33:23,572 --> 01:33:25,053 Speaker 3: Love to hear from you. Nine two nine two is 1992 01:33:25,093 --> 01:33:26,572 Speaker 3: the text. It's twenty six past three. 1993 01:33:30,293 --> 01:33:33,972 Speaker 1: Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons. Call oh eight hundred eighty 1994 01:33:34,053 --> 01:33:35,852 Speaker 1: ten eighty on news Talk ZB. 1995 01:33:35,933 --> 01:33:37,852 Speaker 3: Twenty nine past three. Have you ever made it work 1996 01:33:37,893 --> 01:33:39,892 Speaker 3: after being cheated on? Or if you were the cheetah? 1997 01:33:39,893 --> 01:33:41,772 Speaker 3: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call? 1998 01:33:41,853 --> 01:33:43,132 Speaker 3: Nine two nine two is the text. 1999 01:33:43,532 --> 01:33:46,093 Speaker 2: Text says, once again you drag the national broadcaster into 2000 01:33:46,133 --> 01:33:49,572 Speaker 2: the dirt. Matt dipping banana in a fruit bowl? Did 2001 01:33:49,652 --> 01:33:52,253 Speaker 2: you say horrible sexual reference? Why do I have to 2002 01:33:52,293 --> 01:33:54,213 Speaker 2: hear this? It's interesting in this Texas think this is 2003 01:33:54,253 --> 01:33:57,093 Speaker 2: the national broadcaster. This is New Sooks AIRB, which is 2004 01:33:57,213 --> 01:33:59,212 Speaker 2: a commercial operation. 2005 01:33:59,372 --> 01:34:00,213 Speaker 3: Yeah, so wrong station. 2006 01:34:00,293 --> 01:34:00,572 Speaker 19: For one. 2007 01:34:00,692 --> 01:34:02,892 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what the national broadcaster is is that TVNZ? 2008 01:34:03,093 --> 01:34:05,612 Speaker 2: I think TVNZ is normally called the national broadcaster. I'd 2009 01:34:05,652 --> 01:34:08,173 Speaker 2: like to think, so this isn't this isn't the national broadcasting. 2010 01:34:08,973 --> 01:34:11,133 Speaker 2: But yeah, I have once again dragged z B into 2011 01:34:11,173 --> 01:34:13,492 Speaker 2: the dirt. I agree with that, But look, I thought 2012 01:34:13,612 --> 01:34:16,333 Speaker 2: dipping banana into a fruit bowl is a nice way. 2013 01:34:16,213 --> 01:34:17,452 Speaker 4: To put it. 2014 01:34:17,492 --> 01:34:19,812 Speaker 3: If you can't handle a fruit analogy, then you've got 2015 01:34:19,853 --> 01:34:22,012 Speaker 3: some issues. A few more techs coming through a ninety 2016 01:34:22,013 --> 01:34:22,852 Speaker 3: two ninety two. 2017 01:34:22,973 --> 01:34:25,372 Speaker 2: Guys, once the trust has gone, it's over. The douchebag 2018 01:34:25,492 --> 01:34:28,652 Speaker 2: needs to kick up the jacksie a lot of truth 2019 01:34:28,732 --> 01:34:31,852 Speaker 2: in that. For goodness sake. He is young and fancied 2020 01:34:31,853 --> 01:34:35,253 Speaker 2: another beautiful girl. Is there anything wrong with that? Well, 2021 01:34:36,452 --> 01:34:38,652 Speaker 2: at some point, I don't know. Well, it depends. It 2022 01:34:38,732 --> 01:34:42,492 Speaker 2: depends whether you're being honest or not. If this dude, 2023 01:34:43,293 --> 01:34:47,773 Speaker 2: forget his name, what is it, it's sterla If Sterlingholm, 2024 01:34:48,612 --> 01:34:53,213 Speaker 2: Sterlingholm la Grade was open and honest with this woman. 2025 01:34:53,253 --> 01:34:55,093 Speaker 2: And I've seen this post he did with her, with 2026 01:34:55,253 --> 01:34:58,213 Speaker 2: her in some kind of bathing situation. Yeah, girl he 2027 01:34:58,293 --> 01:35:00,932 Speaker 2: was with If he was honest with her and said, look, 2028 01:35:01,053 --> 01:35:05,692 Speaker 2: you know we're not exclusive, I'm running around, then that's 2029 01:35:05,973 --> 01:35:09,692 Speaker 2: that's fine. But you know, it does sound like he's 2030 01:35:09,692 --> 01:35:10,692 Speaker 2: been a bit dishonest. 2031 01:35:10,812 --> 01:35:12,412 Speaker 3: He's twenty eight as well. Does that come into it? 2032 01:35:12,612 --> 01:35:15,532 Speaker 3: Do you get a bit more leeway if you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty, 2033 01:35:15,853 --> 01:35:18,973 Speaker 3: I mean, twenty eight is a little bit old to 2034 01:35:19,093 --> 01:35:21,492 Speaker 3: be doing the dirty after three months and then crying 2035 01:35:21,532 --> 01:35:22,253 Speaker 3: about it on TV. 2036 01:35:22,812 --> 01:35:25,133 Speaker 2: He does sound like a bit of a soft I mean, 2037 01:35:25,572 --> 01:35:28,452 Speaker 2: can you really be that much in love with someone 2038 01:35:28,452 --> 01:35:31,572 Speaker 2: after three months? But you're that much in love with 2039 01:35:31,612 --> 01:35:34,812 Speaker 2: them after six months? But you weren't that much in 2040 01:35:34,853 --> 01:35:37,692 Speaker 2: love with them not to cheat on them. Yeah, anyway, Hi, 2041 01:35:37,812 --> 01:35:40,532 Speaker 2: Matt and Tyler. Forgiveness is given, then you can't keep 2042 01:35:40,572 --> 01:35:42,852 Speaker 2: bringing it up and using it as a weapon. Then 2043 01:35:42,973 --> 01:35:45,772 Speaker 2: you actually haven't forgiven them and are still holding on 2044 01:35:45,853 --> 01:35:47,772 Speaker 2: to it. Cheating is cheating. All you can do is 2045 01:35:47,853 --> 01:35:50,772 Speaker 2: be accountable for your actions and work on rebuild and trust. 2046 01:35:51,173 --> 01:35:52,612 Speaker 2: But the ball is in the court of the person 2047 01:35:52,732 --> 01:35:55,732 Speaker 2: who has been cheated on to forgive the cheat at cheers, 2048 01:35:55,732 --> 01:35:56,293 Speaker 2: Sam exactly. 2049 01:35:56,333 --> 01:35:57,333 Speaker 3: That's my lot of truth there. 2050 01:35:57,572 --> 01:35:59,973 Speaker 2: You can't forgive someone and then every time they do 2051 01:36:00,053 --> 01:36:03,852 Speaker 2: anything you go, hey, you lift the toilet set up, 2052 01:36:04,013 --> 01:36:05,812 Speaker 2: and then you go, yeah, at least I'm not a cheater. 2053 01:36:06,492 --> 01:36:10,852 Speaker 3: Maybe hard work, very hard work, all right. Headlines coming 2054 01:36:10,933 --> 01:36:12,532 Speaker 3: up after the headlines, We're going to have a chat 2055 01:36:12,933 --> 01:36:16,093 Speaker 3: with someone who's rung in a reformed cheetah. So this 2056 01:36:16,173 --> 01:36:18,692 Speaker 3: is going to be fascinating, brilliant. That's coming up next. 2057 01:36:18,732 --> 01:36:19,812 Speaker 3: It is twenty nine four. 2058 01:36:21,133 --> 01:36:24,892 Speaker 17: You've talk said be headlines with your Ride, New Zealand's 2059 01:36:24,973 --> 01:36:26,213 Speaker 17: number one taxi app. 2060 01:36:26,452 --> 01:36:28,052 Speaker 3: Download your Ride today. 2061 01:36:28,732 --> 01:36:31,892 Speaker 17: Labour's accusing the government of pulling out COVID as an 2062 01:36:31,973 --> 01:36:35,293 Speaker 17: election tactic by launching a probe into the Reserve Bank's 2063 01:36:35,372 --> 01:36:39,372 Speaker 17: pandemic response. 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So we're talking about the 2080 01:37:39,412 --> 01:37:45,693 Speaker 3: extraordinary post win interview from Norwegian Olympic biathlete Stirler Holm Legrad. 2081 01:37:45,772 --> 01:37:48,372 Speaker 3: He conversed online television to cheating on his girlfriend moments 2082 01:37:48,372 --> 01:37:50,812 Speaker 3: after winning bronze at the Winter Olympics. But the question 2083 01:37:50,893 --> 01:37:52,972 Speaker 3: we've got for you, have you ever made it work 2084 01:37:53,013 --> 01:37:55,372 Speaker 3: after being cheated on or if you were the Cheatah? 2085 01:37:55,652 --> 01:37:58,012 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is an interesting text. You can't cheat until 2086 01:37:58,013 --> 01:38:01,253 Speaker 2: you're married. So he's sweet ass until the big day. 2087 01:38:01,853 --> 01:38:05,053 Speaker 2: You can go loose with whoever you want. Really, let 2088 01:38:05,133 --> 01:38:08,012 Speaker 2: us go loose with everyone made. That's why you get married. 2089 01:38:08,492 --> 01:38:12,652 Speaker 2: If you don't want someone finding it somewhere else to 2090 01:38:12,812 --> 01:38:16,772 Speaker 2: marry them. If you haven't married them, shut up. But 2091 01:38:17,173 --> 01:38:18,853 Speaker 2: in her defense, she hasn't said anything. 2092 01:38:18,772 --> 01:38:21,213 Speaker 3: No, so we still need to hurt. She's on her 2093 01:38:21,253 --> 01:38:21,812 Speaker 3: side of the story. 2094 01:38:21,893 --> 01:38:23,972 Speaker 2: She's not complaining or anything. All she did is kicked 2095 01:38:24,053 --> 01:38:25,732 Speaker 2: him to the curb after three months because he was 2096 01:38:25,812 --> 01:38:28,213 Speaker 2: with someone else. But is that true that until the 2097 01:38:28,253 --> 01:38:29,892 Speaker 2: big day you can go loose with whoever you want. 2098 01:38:30,133 --> 01:38:32,013 Speaker 3: Note of my books, lot of my books, I've got 2099 01:38:32,093 --> 01:38:34,692 Speaker 3: to say, But it feels like an open relationship situation 2100 01:38:34,812 --> 01:38:35,532 Speaker 3: going on there, And. 2101 01:38:35,612 --> 01:38:38,173 Speaker 2: This text agrees you can sleep with as many people 2102 01:38:38,293 --> 01:38:41,013 Speaker 2: as you want in the first three months of a relationship. 2103 01:38:41,173 --> 01:38:43,932 Speaker 2: That's not serious serious, you're still trying them out. 2104 01:38:46,093 --> 01:38:48,812 Speaker 3: That is a romantic isn't it. That's beautiful. 2105 01:38:48,933 --> 01:38:49,452 Speaker 6: This is real. 2106 01:38:50,053 --> 01:38:53,213 Speaker 3: There's a lot of romance in the love it John. 2107 01:38:53,492 --> 01:38:54,213 Speaker 3: Good to chat with you. 2108 01:38:54,333 --> 01:38:54,772 Speaker 6: How are you? 2109 01:38:56,053 --> 01:38:56,812 Speaker 8: Oh you good things? 2110 01:38:57,133 --> 01:39:01,293 Speaker 3: So mate, you're a reform cheater? Yeah, well great to 2111 01:39:01,772 --> 01:39:03,133 Speaker 3: thank you very much for giving us a buzz and 2112 01:39:03,133 --> 01:39:04,492 Speaker 3: great to chat with you. So what are you reckon 2113 01:39:04,532 --> 01:39:07,892 Speaker 3: about this? You can you make it work? After the feats? 2114 01:39:07,893 --> 01:39:08,293 Speaker 22: She cheat? 2115 01:39:09,652 --> 01:39:13,492 Speaker 8: I think that contrary to a lot of things that 2116 01:39:13,612 --> 01:39:16,933 Speaker 8: a lot of people, especially women, seemed to propagate. I 2117 01:39:17,013 --> 01:39:20,772 Speaker 8: think in my case, you know I did, and my 2118 01:39:20,893 --> 01:39:23,772 Speaker 8: wife quizzed me out on it, and not my wife 2119 01:39:23,772 --> 01:39:26,213 Speaker 8: and my girlfriend at the time, and I said, yeah, 2120 01:39:26,372 --> 01:39:29,772 Speaker 8: it's true. I have had this affair with this person, 2121 01:39:29,853 --> 01:39:35,372 Speaker 8: I mean anyway, so that was like thirty years ago whatever, 2122 01:39:36,053 --> 01:39:39,852 Speaker 8: so and I haven't done that ever since. Never a 2123 01:39:39,933 --> 01:39:44,213 Speaker 8: straight had opportunity, never had so contrary to the popular belief. 2124 01:39:44,333 --> 01:39:44,892 Speaker 7: I think. 2125 01:39:46,333 --> 01:39:49,053 Speaker 8: Men, you know, sometimes they make a mistake and then 2126 01:39:50,013 --> 01:39:52,293 Speaker 8: they Yeah, so. 2127 01:39:52,772 --> 01:39:55,213 Speaker 2: How did you how did you approach the You said 2128 01:39:55,412 --> 01:39:58,333 Speaker 2: you had the opportunity again and didn't how did you 2129 01:39:58,412 --> 01:40:02,652 Speaker 2: approach that opportunity compared to previously obviously without the cheating? 2130 01:40:02,853 --> 01:40:05,093 Speaker 2: But did you distance yourself from the person or did 2131 01:40:05,173 --> 01:40:05,973 Speaker 2: you make it clear or what? 2132 01:40:06,213 --> 01:40:06,253 Speaker 13: No? 2133 01:40:06,612 --> 01:40:10,052 Speaker 8: No, no, no, I just just you know, I'm mobile 2134 01:40:10,213 --> 01:40:13,293 Speaker 8: and probably could have nicknamed me rebit before I got married. 2135 01:40:13,372 --> 01:40:17,492 Speaker 8: And you know, just you know, you just think, well, 2136 01:40:18,452 --> 01:40:21,372 Speaker 8: it's no point, so you just don't, you know, and 2137 01:40:22,853 --> 01:40:26,812 Speaker 8: you know the you know, it's better if you respect 2138 01:40:26,933 --> 01:40:31,093 Speaker 8: someone as well, you know, and anyway, it's just for 2139 01:40:31,253 --> 01:40:33,133 Speaker 8: some reason, he sas to me this thing that someone 2140 01:40:33,293 --> 01:40:35,973 Speaker 8: someone's done that they'refore ever going to do that, and 2141 01:40:36,053 --> 01:40:37,412 Speaker 8: you should never trust them again. 2142 01:40:37,532 --> 01:40:38,893 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people are teaching and saying that 2143 01:40:39,253 --> 01:40:42,932 Speaker 2: your proof that it isn't true. Now does the person 2144 01:40:43,013 --> 01:40:45,253 Speaker 2: that has forgiven you did they ever bring it up. 2145 01:40:45,293 --> 01:40:46,213 Speaker 2: Have they fully forgiven you? 2146 01:40:48,053 --> 01:40:48,213 Speaker 7: Oh? 2147 01:40:48,412 --> 01:40:51,532 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you know the fine, it's just you know they. 2148 01:40:53,532 --> 01:40:57,053 Speaker 8: Yeah, you've got to be adults about this type of 2149 01:40:57,133 --> 01:41:00,093 Speaker 8: thing and sensible about it. And when you're in relationships, 2150 01:41:00,732 --> 01:41:03,492 Speaker 8: there's you know, these things that are the other part 2151 01:41:03,532 --> 01:41:05,973 Speaker 8: of may not that does that you don't like. But 2152 01:41:06,772 --> 01:41:09,572 Speaker 8: you've got to look at whether you drop the nuclear 2153 01:41:09,652 --> 01:41:12,532 Speaker 8: bomb option or not. And sometimes you know it's not 2154 01:41:12,692 --> 01:41:15,732 Speaker 8: worth it for the the other benefits that are crew 2155 01:41:15,853 --> 01:41:21,053 Speaker 8: from that relationship. So yeah, I think, you know, And yeah, 2156 01:41:21,093 --> 01:41:23,053 Speaker 8: it just it just annoys me when you hear all 2157 01:41:23,093 --> 01:41:26,532 Speaker 8: these people keep saying, oh, you won't they never can 2158 01:41:26,572 --> 01:41:26,933 Speaker 8: trust them. 2159 01:41:27,732 --> 01:41:30,013 Speaker 2: I mean, we're all trying to get better from day 2160 01:41:30,053 --> 01:41:32,253 Speaker 2: to day. We're all trying to improve across across our lives. 2161 01:41:32,293 --> 01:41:35,612 Speaker 2: The idea that you're you're fully realized in your twenties 2162 01:41:35,772 --> 01:41:37,412 Speaker 2: compared to what you're going to be in your sixties 2163 01:41:37,772 --> 01:41:38,293 Speaker 2: is wil be. 2164 01:41:39,732 --> 01:41:43,532 Speaker 8: Plate twenties then, And as I said, in a relationship 2165 01:41:43,572 --> 01:41:46,333 Speaker 8: with the same woman for thirty years and they've never 2166 01:41:48,612 --> 01:41:51,812 Speaker 8: strayed once, even though I've had the ability to you know, 2167 01:41:52,093 --> 01:41:52,692 Speaker 8: and you. 2168 01:41:52,732 --> 01:41:57,732 Speaker 2: Sound like quite the catch, quite quite attractive, quite attractive 2169 01:41:57,812 --> 01:41:58,612 Speaker 2: for the ladies are. 2170 01:41:58,532 --> 01:41:59,572 Speaker 3: We John a lot of temptation. 2171 01:42:01,933 --> 01:42:03,732 Speaker 2: It's very easy for Tyler to stay. 2172 01:42:05,213 --> 01:42:08,253 Speaker 3: It's snow fish out there. 2173 01:42:09,732 --> 01:42:11,492 Speaker 8: You know as some of you guys you're confident on 2174 01:42:11,612 --> 01:42:14,852 Speaker 8: the radio. Well, sometimes you need to be confident with 2175 01:42:14,973 --> 01:42:15,452 Speaker 8: the ladies. 2176 01:42:15,652 --> 01:42:17,052 Speaker 15: You're a that stage of your life. 2177 01:42:17,293 --> 01:42:19,492 Speaker 2: Hey, John, can I just ask you a question? You 2178 01:42:19,532 --> 01:42:22,012 Speaker 2: don't have to answer this, but were you found out 2179 01:42:22,293 --> 01:42:23,012 Speaker 2: or did you admit? 2180 01:42:24,973 --> 01:42:25,013 Speaker 10: No? 2181 01:42:25,412 --> 01:42:27,732 Speaker 8: No, she she heard, and then she asked me and 2182 01:42:28,652 --> 01:42:30,133 Speaker 8: I said, you, well, do you want me to lie 2183 01:42:30,173 --> 01:42:31,372 Speaker 8: to you or do you want me to tell. 2184 01:42:31,253 --> 01:42:31,692 Speaker 7: You the truth? 2185 01:42:33,293 --> 01:42:34,212 Speaker 3: That's a hard time. 2186 01:42:37,093 --> 01:42:37,572 Speaker 6: The truth. 2187 01:42:37,893 --> 01:42:40,253 Speaker 8: And then she said, well, what would you do in 2188 01:42:40,372 --> 01:42:42,213 Speaker 8: my shoes? And I said, advise you are dump me? 2189 01:42:42,692 --> 01:42:44,452 Speaker 8: And she goes, you're right, that's what I'm going to do. 2190 01:42:44,612 --> 01:42:48,933 Speaker 8: So she did, yeah, and the uh you know so 2191 01:42:49,372 --> 01:42:52,612 Speaker 8: you know, so it's just fair enough to yeah. 2192 01:42:52,492 --> 01:42:54,093 Speaker 2: Well, thanks for you call, John, and I'm glad everything 2193 01:42:54,133 --> 01:42:55,892 Speaker 2: turned out to you. There you go, so you can 2194 01:42:56,492 --> 01:42:58,692 Speaker 2: you can turn things around. And John sounds like he's 2195 01:42:58,692 --> 01:43:01,173 Speaker 2: getting a lot of attention. Yep, And he's saying no, no, 2196 01:43:01,412 --> 01:43:03,892 Speaker 2: no on a daily basis, just fighting them off. 2197 01:43:03,973 --> 01:43:06,173 Speaker 3: It's getting all those teas coming through saying, John, how 2198 01:43:06,173 --> 01:43:06,532 Speaker 3: about it? 2199 01:43:06,732 --> 01:43:07,053 Speaker 21: Is that not? 2200 01:43:07,213 --> 01:43:07,253 Speaker 22: Not? 2201 01:43:07,532 --> 01:43:09,612 Speaker 2: Are you up? I think you said to me something. 2202 01:43:09,652 --> 01:43:11,932 Speaker 2: We're having a chat over a coffee the other day, Tyler, 2203 01:43:11,973 --> 01:43:14,852 Speaker 2: and you said to me, you should, when you're in 2204 01:43:14,973 --> 01:43:18,692 Speaker 2: your forties hate the person if you met them that 2205 01:43:18,812 --> 01:43:19,652 Speaker 2: you were in your twenties. 2206 01:43:19,812 --> 01:43:19,972 Speaker 10: Yeah. 2207 01:43:20,053 --> 01:43:22,173 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you meet your twenty year old self, 2208 01:43:22,333 --> 01:43:25,093 Speaker 3: you should fight them. You should want to fight them 2209 01:43:25,213 --> 01:43:27,892 Speaker 3: because you've improved so much. Yeah, because you can see 2210 01:43:27,893 --> 01:43:30,253 Speaker 3: how much of a dickhead that person was. So if 2211 01:43:30,293 --> 01:43:31,933 Speaker 3: I ever met twenty year old me, he was a 2212 01:43:31,973 --> 01:43:34,092 Speaker 3: real dickhead. In these parts of me, that's still a dickhead. 2213 01:43:34,133 --> 01:43:36,532 Speaker 3: But I'm better than I was at twenty. I would 2214 01:43:36,572 --> 01:43:38,452 Speaker 3: fight that guy. Oh, fight twenty year old Tyler. 2215 01:43:38,572 --> 01:43:40,532 Speaker 2: So that's the idea. We spend our life trying to 2216 01:43:40,572 --> 01:43:42,772 Speaker 2: be better than we were the day before, and so 2217 01:43:43,093 --> 01:43:45,213 Speaker 2: if you had twenty years into that equation, you should 2218 01:43:45,253 --> 01:43:46,972 Speaker 2: be so much better than you were twenty years ago 2219 01:43:47,053 --> 01:43:49,293 Speaker 2: that you would really not like who you were. 2220 01:43:49,492 --> 01:43:49,692 Speaker 12: Yeah. 2221 01:43:49,772 --> 01:43:52,253 Speaker 3: So true. Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is 2222 01:43:52,293 --> 01:43:53,572 Speaker 3: the number to call up to hear from you if 2223 01:43:53,572 --> 01:43:55,532 Speaker 3: you've ever been cheated on or you were the cheater 2224 01:43:55,893 --> 01:43:59,093 Speaker 3: did you make it work afterwards? It is nineteen to four. 2225 01:43:59,572 --> 01:44:02,412 Speaker 1: It's a fresh take on took back Matt Heath and 2226 01:44:02,532 --> 01:44:06,692 Speaker 1: Taylor Adams Afternoons with Skoda. Please scoter codes every day 2227 01:44:06,853 --> 01:44:09,812 Speaker 1: at scoter dot code on dead have your say on 2228 01:44:10,093 --> 01:44:12,452 Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty youth talk said B. 2229 01:44:12,652 --> 01:44:13,372 Speaker 3: Sixteen to four. 2230 01:44:13,692 --> 01:44:18,133 Speaker 2: This is a very interesting text. Okay, I agree, says 2231 01:44:18,173 --> 01:44:20,532 Speaker 2: this tester. He's not agreed with me, by the way, Okay, 2232 01:44:20,772 --> 01:44:22,973 Speaker 2: I don't want to be in the cross head. He 2233 01:44:23,093 --> 01:44:26,213 Speaker 2: was agreeing with the previous text that said that you 2234 01:44:26,293 --> 01:44:29,932 Speaker 2: can't cheat until you're married. Okay, so you can sleep 2235 01:44:30,013 --> 01:44:32,452 Speaker 2: with whoever you like until you get married. In fact, 2236 01:44:32,532 --> 01:44:34,852 Speaker 2: you should to get it out of your system. I 2237 01:44:34,973 --> 01:44:37,972 Speaker 2: slept with a girl on my stagdoo. Didn't feel any guilt. 2238 01:44:38,532 --> 01:44:40,133 Speaker 2: Was a bit worried that the best man would bring 2239 01:44:40,173 --> 01:44:42,133 Speaker 2: it up at the wedding, but he didn't. It was 2240 01:44:42,213 --> 01:44:45,052 Speaker 2: my right to sow my oats. Now I am married, 2241 01:44:45,372 --> 01:44:48,412 Speaker 2: I'm fully faithful, but happy I got one more in 2242 01:44:48,652 --> 01:44:49,852 Speaker 2: before we committed for life. 2243 01:44:50,133 --> 01:44:50,213 Speaker 19: Right. 2244 01:44:50,333 --> 01:44:54,012 Speaker 3: That's a committed gentleman, right there. Keep those dicks coming through. 2245 01:44:54,253 --> 01:44:57,932 Speaker 2: That's concerning. That is Paul welcome to the show. 2246 01:44:58,812 --> 01:45:03,092 Speaker 12: Hey guys, all I can say is this girl's probably 2247 01:45:03,372 --> 01:45:06,892 Speaker 12: quite hot. And he screwed up and he's like, oh damn, 2248 01:45:06,893 --> 01:45:09,612 Speaker 12: I want to go back. And she's like, are you again? 2249 01:45:09,812 --> 01:45:09,852 Speaker 21: What? 2250 01:45:10,173 --> 01:45:10,812 Speaker 5: Just leave me alone. 2251 01:45:10,893 --> 01:45:13,253 Speaker 12: Now he's gone into national She's like, oh, what a freak. 2252 01:45:13,333 --> 01:45:14,612 Speaker 12: She's never going to take him back. 2253 01:45:15,053 --> 01:45:17,452 Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think he's coming across as 2254 01:45:17,532 --> 01:45:22,573 Speaker 2: a stalky, weird freak that's massively overegged the situation desperation. 2255 01:45:22,812 --> 01:45:24,133 Speaker 12: Yeah, where's he from? 2256 01:45:24,293 --> 01:45:25,333 Speaker 6: Does it say? Norway? 2257 01:45:25,893 --> 01:45:26,253 Speaker 2: Norway? 2258 01:45:27,652 --> 01:45:29,532 Speaker 12: A little funny over there, A little funny over there. 2259 01:45:29,973 --> 01:45:32,013 Speaker 12: I do remember once I was out and I met 2260 01:45:32,053 --> 01:45:35,492 Speaker 12: a girl who I used to date long, long time ago. 2261 01:45:35,492 --> 01:45:36,893 Speaker 12: I met a girl out in the bath who I 2262 01:45:37,053 --> 01:45:39,532 Speaker 12: dated about ten years before or eight years before. And 2263 01:45:39,933 --> 01:45:41,213 Speaker 12: do you remember me? I of course I do. We 2264 01:45:41,293 --> 01:45:43,852 Speaker 12: chatted that and we went and found somewhere and we 2265 01:45:44,133 --> 01:45:46,412 Speaker 12: slept here, and at the end of it, she said, okay, 2266 01:45:46,492 --> 01:45:47,572 Speaker 12: thank you for that. I said, do you want to 2267 01:45:47,572 --> 01:45:49,652 Speaker 12: come back to my place? We can stay at night 2268 01:45:49,652 --> 01:45:51,372 Speaker 12: and have a coffee in the morning, and she went, no, 2269 01:45:51,492 --> 01:45:55,093 Speaker 12: I'm getting wedding visinus trial tomorrow morning. I just wanted 2270 01:45:55,093 --> 01:45:57,053 Speaker 12: to sleep you do one more time, So girls do 2271 01:45:57,133 --> 01:45:57,572 Speaker 12: it as well. 2272 01:45:57,893 --> 01:46:03,293 Speaker 2: WHOA, that is very true the moral and propriety who 2273 01:46:04,532 --> 01:46:07,173 Speaker 2: in this world? The six says, forty year old me 2274 01:46:07,333 --> 01:46:09,532 Speaker 2: is more of a duckhead than two year old me. Yeah, 2275 01:46:09,612 --> 01:46:11,852 Speaker 2: you have it backwards. Boys, So Byron reckons that you 2276 01:46:11,893 --> 01:46:13,892 Speaker 2: want to be getting worse across your life. 2277 01:46:14,013 --> 01:46:16,412 Speaker 3: Yeah, and quickly this one. Don't do it, tyler, you 2278 01:46:16,452 --> 01:46:18,333 Speaker 3: will get your butt cacked by a twenty year old Tyler. 2279 01:46:18,333 --> 01:46:19,772 Speaker 3: There's probably a lot of truth in that as well. 2280 01:46:19,973 --> 01:46:21,732 Speaker 3: I've let myself go in the last twenty years. 2281 01:46:23,372 --> 01:46:25,852 Speaker 2: The guys, who cares he's in love after three months? 2282 01:46:25,973 --> 01:46:28,492 Speaker 2: Ye're right, that's why he shagged another woman. Yeah? 2283 01:46:28,652 --> 01:46:32,532 Speaker 3: Yeah, Ellen, you were cheated on yourself. 2284 01:46:33,652 --> 01:46:37,013 Speaker 19: Yeah yeah. And I was married and two kids and 2285 01:46:37,293 --> 01:46:40,812 Speaker 19: my wife cheated and I forgave her and took her back. 2286 01:46:41,812 --> 01:46:44,532 Speaker 19: But I think really what happens behind the scenes is 2287 01:46:44,572 --> 01:46:48,052 Speaker 19: they just become harder a cat because it happened again 2288 01:46:48,692 --> 01:46:51,372 Speaker 19: with a different person. So there are there are a 2289 01:46:51,412 --> 01:46:53,013 Speaker 19: lot of There are a lot of people there, men 2290 01:46:53,093 --> 01:46:56,612 Speaker 19: and woman who they're just cheated. They just you know, 2291 01:46:56,732 --> 01:46:58,612 Speaker 19: they just can't stay faithful to one person. 2292 01:46:59,213 --> 01:47:02,412 Speaker 2: How did that make you feel the first time, and 2293 01:47:02,492 --> 01:47:04,972 Speaker 2: then the second time. You know, what kind of emotions 2294 01:47:05,013 --> 01:47:05,492 Speaker 2: were you feeling? 2295 01:47:05,532 --> 01:47:09,173 Speaker 21: If you don't mind me asking, Ellen, Yeah, like, you 2296 01:47:09,293 --> 01:47:11,452 Speaker 21: try and you try and throw all your feelings aside, 2297 01:47:11,572 --> 01:47:13,253 Speaker 21: and you try and you know, make it work and 2298 01:47:13,293 --> 01:47:15,293 Speaker 21: everything like that, and then you do get a little 2299 01:47:15,333 --> 01:47:17,213 Speaker 21: bit suspicious from time to time. 2300 01:47:17,973 --> 01:47:20,612 Speaker 19: And I think when you you know, your your your 2301 01:47:20,692 --> 01:47:23,412 Speaker 19: wife after she's cheated, and you turned around and you 2302 01:47:23,532 --> 01:47:26,013 Speaker 19: start asking little questions, you know, the answer would be, 2303 01:47:26,772 --> 01:47:28,892 Speaker 19: you know, oh hell, were you ever going to move forward? 2304 01:47:28,933 --> 01:47:31,572 Speaker 19: If you can't let this go? You know where it 2305 01:47:31,652 --> 01:47:33,892 Speaker 19: should have been. It should have been more like, well, 2306 01:47:34,572 --> 01:47:36,612 Speaker 19: you know, are you having a bad day? You're struggling 2307 01:47:36,652 --> 01:47:40,213 Speaker 19: with what happened? You know, rather than blaming blaming the 2308 01:47:40,293 --> 01:47:42,253 Speaker 19: person who gets cheated on, that's what they seem to do, 2309 01:47:42,412 --> 01:47:47,372 Speaker 19: blame them all the time. Yeah, So it is really hard. 2310 01:47:47,772 --> 01:47:49,333 Speaker 19: But at the same time, you know, you get those 2311 01:47:49,372 --> 01:47:52,812 Speaker 19: suspicions and then you find out that your suspicions are 2312 01:47:52,853 --> 01:47:53,972 Speaker 19: correct and she's cheating again. 2313 01:47:55,692 --> 01:47:58,213 Speaker 2: So the second when you found out the second time, 2314 01:47:58,253 --> 01:48:00,572 Speaker 2: did you find out or were you told the second time? Ellen? 2315 01:48:01,532 --> 01:48:04,213 Speaker 19: No, No, I got suspicious and I asked her and 2316 01:48:04,853 --> 01:48:07,612 Speaker 19: and and she kept denying it and denying it, and 2317 01:48:08,412 --> 01:48:11,133 Speaker 19: but your gut tells you that they're cheating. So I 2318 01:48:11,253 --> 01:48:15,932 Speaker 19: held a private devestigator how to follow and yeah, yeah, 2319 01:48:15,973 --> 01:48:19,213 Speaker 19: she was having another affair, so you know, And how's that? 2320 01:48:19,532 --> 01:48:22,133 Speaker 2: How's that conversation when it's happened the second time and 2321 01:48:22,253 --> 01:48:24,652 Speaker 2: she's been blaming you for being suspicious, turns out you 2322 01:48:24,732 --> 01:48:26,492 Speaker 2: had every right to be suspicious. How does that? How 2323 01:48:26,532 --> 01:48:28,492 Speaker 2: does that second time conversation go? 2324 01:48:29,772 --> 01:48:32,732 Speaker 19: Well, she at first you knows she's denying it, and 2325 01:48:32,812 --> 01:48:34,692 Speaker 19: then you and then you just tell her that you know, look, 2326 01:48:34,732 --> 01:48:37,213 Speaker 19: I had you followed, and you know, you're walking around 2327 01:48:37,253 --> 01:48:39,612 Speaker 19: holding hands with the guy, I kiss him in the 2328 01:48:39,692 --> 01:48:43,692 Speaker 19: park and everything, and her face goes from trying to 2329 01:48:43,772 --> 01:48:45,852 Speaker 19: be in control of the relationship to like all of 2330 01:48:45,893 --> 01:48:48,812 Speaker 19: a sudden, oh my god, you know, you know, and 2331 01:48:48,933 --> 01:48:50,732 Speaker 19: it just it just changed the whole conversation. 2332 01:48:51,812 --> 01:48:54,772 Speaker 3: And sorry you carry. I was just going to ask, 2333 01:48:54,893 --> 01:48:57,772 Speaker 3: is that did that to fit your relationships going forward? 2334 01:48:57,893 --> 01:48:59,812 Speaker 3: That you kind of had at the back of my mind, 2335 01:48:59,933 --> 01:49:01,492 Speaker 3: is this is this woman going to do the duty 2336 01:49:01,572 --> 01:49:01,732 Speaker 3: on me? 2337 01:49:02,213 --> 01:49:02,532 Speaker 4: It does? 2338 01:49:02,652 --> 01:49:03,053 Speaker 5: It does? 2339 01:49:03,333 --> 01:49:03,532 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2340 01:49:03,572 --> 01:49:07,572 Speaker 19: You become Look, I'm remarried, I'm being married to a 2341 01:49:07,652 --> 01:49:10,772 Speaker 19: lovely wife and we've been together for sixteen years and 2342 01:49:11,772 --> 01:49:14,053 Speaker 19: I don't have any suspicions about her at all. But 2343 01:49:14,133 --> 01:49:15,492 Speaker 19: when we first got together, we did. 2344 01:49:15,572 --> 01:49:17,093 Speaker 6: I did, yeah, but I never let. 2345 01:49:17,093 --> 01:49:19,972 Speaker 19: You know, you know, I certainly wouldn't you know, try 2346 01:49:20,013 --> 01:49:21,692 Speaker 19: and I wouldn't try and bring the guilt from the 2347 01:49:21,732 --> 01:49:22,932 Speaker 19: first marriage to the second. 2348 01:49:24,133 --> 01:49:26,012 Speaker 3: What did the what did the p I costure? 2349 01:49:27,933 --> 01:49:29,253 Speaker 19: I think it was about a thousand bucks. 2350 01:49:29,732 --> 01:49:30,572 Speaker 3: Yeah, money well spent. 2351 01:49:31,612 --> 01:49:34,053 Speaker 19: Yeah, it was actually because you know, financially, I was 2352 01:49:34,093 --> 01:49:35,732 Speaker 19: in the probably the worst part of my life. You 2353 01:49:35,853 --> 01:49:38,732 Speaker 19: know this because it's happened late. Well I'm back, you know, 2354 01:49:38,853 --> 01:49:42,892 Speaker 19: this happened like in my sixty two. Now, this happened 2355 01:49:42,933 --> 01:49:44,053 Speaker 19: when I was about thirty five. 2356 01:49:44,812 --> 01:49:44,973 Speaker 22: You know. 2357 01:49:45,173 --> 01:49:47,013 Speaker 19: So I was in the worst fin actual part of 2358 01:49:47,053 --> 01:49:49,812 Speaker 19: my life. And we split up and then you know, 2359 01:49:49,853 --> 01:49:52,492 Speaker 19: I got back together, started working again, got my life 2360 01:49:52,532 --> 01:49:55,053 Speaker 19: back together, and you know, I'd hate to go through 2361 01:49:55,093 --> 01:49:58,933 Speaker 19: it again. But because it's financial as well, it's just 2362 01:49:59,053 --> 01:49:59,972 Speaker 19: not the person cheating. 2363 01:50:00,333 --> 01:50:02,652 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Ellen, thanks very much for giving us a buzz 2364 01:50:02,652 --> 01:50:05,133 Speaker 3: I mean, having a DOSSI that when you confront them 2365 01:50:05,213 --> 01:50:07,972 Speaker 3: and you say you cheating on me? No, So wow, 2366 01:50:08,612 --> 01:50:10,812 Speaker 3: I've got a PI, I've got this mess of DOSSI out. 2367 01:50:11,173 --> 01:50:13,412 Speaker 3: Here's these photos and all the evidence. What do you 2368 01:50:13,492 --> 01:50:16,333 Speaker 3: say now, it'd be a good feeling, be a good feeling. 2369 01:50:16,452 --> 01:50:20,052 Speaker 2: Well, good and bad. True, it's kind of a victory 2370 01:50:20,372 --> 01:50:21,612 Speaker 2: full of loss. 2371 01:50:21,853 --> 01:50:24,133 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right, got to play some messages back 2372 01:50:24,253 --> 01:50:24,692 Speaker 3: very shortly. 2373 01:50:24,732 --> 01:50:28,652 Speaker 1: It is ten to four the big stories, the big issues, 2374 01:50:28,893 --> 01:50:31,213 Speaker 1: the big trends, and everything in between. 2375 01:50:31,452 --> 01:50:34,772 Speaker 5: Matt Heath and Tyler Adams. Afternoons used talk said. 2376 01:50:34,612 --> 01:50:38,772 Speaker 3: Be very good. Afternoons youue. It is seven to for 2377 01:50:39,053 --> 01:50:41,852 Speaker 3: few texts before we wrap up the show. 2378 01:50:42,452 --> 01:50:45,012 Speaker 2: From my experience, yes, trust can definitely be regained. After 2379 01:50:45,093 --> 01:50:47,253 Speaker 2: I caught my wife cheating having a fling, we worked 2380 01:50:47,372 --> 01:50:49,852 Speaker 2: things out and grew closer over the next thirty years 2381 01:50:49,893 --> 01:50:51,412 Speaker 2: and had a great time. Some of my friends in 2382 01:50:51,492 --> 01:50:54,612 Speaker 2: the same situation at the time through the towel and separated, 2383 01:50:54,772 --> 01:50:57,692 Speaker 2: ended up rest of their lives alone. Best to try 2384 01:50:57,772 --> 01:51:00,372 Speaker 2: and work it out, especially with kids involved. Thank you 2385 01:51:00,532 --> 01:51:04,173 Speaker 2: for that text, Dave, Matt Tyler. This man's activity is 2386 01:51:04,253 --> 01:51:08,132 Speaker 2: prime manipulative controlling behavior, like the guy who selfishly upstages 2387 01:51:08,173 --> 01:51:11,412 Speaker 2: some one else's wedding to ask you to marry them, 2388 01:51:11,853 --> 01:51:15,133 Speaker 2: and you say yes because all the guests want you 2389 01:51:15,293 --> 01:51:18,572 Speaker 2: to and you don't want to humiliate him. To the 2390 01:51:18,652 --> 01:51:22,333 Speaker 2: Norwegian's ex, you're free of him. Stay free. Cheating is 2391 01:51:22,372 --> 01:51:25,652 Speaker 2: a huge betrayal. I wouldn't want a cheaterback. I could forgive, 2392 01:51:25,772 --> 01:51:31,213 Speaker 2: but I couldn't trust, says kateex and this says afternoon boys. 2393 01:51:31,293 --> 01:51:33,452 Speaker 2: I was cheated on early in our relationship. I forgave 2394 01:51:33,532 --> 01:51:37,932 Speaker 2: her and we're still together eighteen years on. People can change. 2395 01:51:38,053 --> 01:51:40,133 Speaker 3: Oh that's a nice finish there. We will keep you 2396 01:51:40,253 --> 01:51:42,492 Speaker 3: updated with how Sterling gets on whether he does get 2397 01:51:42,532 --> 01:51:46,692 Speaker 3: back with his Norwegian girlfriend of three months. But what 2398 01:51:46,812 --> 01:51:49,893 Speaker 3: a great discussion it certainly was. 2399 01:51:49,973 --> 01:51:52,772 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening, Tyler, and I will 2400 01:51:52,812 --> 01:51:58,692 Speaker 2: be back live tomorrow from midday, so tune in. I'd 2401 01:51:58,732 --> 01:52:00,973 Speaker 2: love to hang out with you again. The great and 2402 01:52:01,013 --> 01:52:03,892 Speaker 2: powerful Heather Dupa se Allen is up next. But Tyler, 2403 01:52:03,933 --> 01:52:07,293 Speaker 2: why am I playing this song from George Michael Killer's Whisper. 2404 01:52:07,612 --> 01:52:09,412 Speaker 3: I don't know. Saving a look at the lyrics, is 2405 01:52:09,492 --> 01:52:11,013 Speaker 3: it because one of the lines is I should have 2406 01:52:11,013 --> 01:52:12,772 Speaker 3: known better than to cheat a friends. 2407 01:52:14,013 --> 01:52:17,293 Speaker 2: Guilty feet have got no rhythm. I know it's easy 2408 01:52:17,532 --> 01:52:18,853 Speaker 2: to pretend. 2409 01:52:19,293 --> 01:52:22,492 Speaker 3: No, what a tune? George Michael, you did he dog? 2410 01:52:22,772 --> 01:52:25,492 Speaker 2: No, I'm better than the cheat, a friend who was 2411 01:52:26,013 --> 01:52:29,852 Speaker 2: his chance to have been given? Are we gonna make 2412 01:52:29,893 --> 01:52:30,732 Speaker 2: it to the sex? Slow? 2413 01:52:31,853 --> 01:52:38,533 Speaker 3: Here it comes? Ah, that's a good stuff. 2414 01:52:41,253 --> 01:52:49,612 Speaker 2: June and a cautionary tale. Yes, guilty feet have got 2415 01:52:49,732 --> 01:52:50,133 Speaker 2: no rhythm? 2416 01:52:50,173 --> 01:52:52,492 Speaker 3: The good fee you say, that's on? What a tune? 2417 01:52:54,333 --> 01:52:54,692 Speaker 4: All right? 2418 01:52:55,213 --> 01:52:57,293 Speaker 2: Seem busy? Will let you go? He's imitation and keep 2419 01:52:57,293 --> 01:52:58,253 Speaker 2: me from us to see you tomorrow. 2420 01:53:08,572 --> 01:53:08,892 Speaker 10: But d. 2421 01:53:48,293 --> 01:53:49,492 Speaker 5: Matt and Tyler 2422 01:53:51,253 --> 01:53:53,812 Speaker 1: For more from News Talks at b Listen live on 2423 01:53:54,013 --> 01:53:56,932 Speaker 1: air or online, and keep our shows with you wherever 2424 01:53:57,013 --> 01:53:59,532 Speaker 1: you go with our podcasts on iHeartRadio