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Speaker 1: It looks like we could get into the satellite business.

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Speaker 1: Government wants to launch one that we can control. Currently

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Speaker 1: we rely on the Brits and the Americans. People like that.

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Speaker 1: The Auckland University physics professor Richard Easter's where's Richard? Morning?

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Speaker 2: Good morning?

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Speaker 1: Is this a thing? I mean, this is something countries

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Speaker 1: aspire to do. It's what you want to do? It is?

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Speaker 2: I mean, and the government has a space strategy and

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Speaker 2: number one in the space strategy is to develop our

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Speaker 2: sovereign space capabilities for the National Space Mission.

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Speaker 1: Okay, cool? So how would we do that? How many

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Speaker 1: satellites would we need just the one or a whole bunch?

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Speaker 2: That depends. I mean if many cases you might want

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Speaker 2: to work up to something with a couple of trial satellites,

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Speaker 2: and other cases you may actually need more than one

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Speaker 2: because you know, the lowest all but a given satellite

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Speaker 2: is only over New Zealand then maybe twenty minutes a day,

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Speaker 2: and so you might want to have multiple coverage, do we?

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Speaker 1: I mean, as Peter Beck changing the game and Elon's

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Speaker 1: changing the game, and to get these things up there,

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Speaker 1: it's so much cheaper. Therefore, we're in the we're in place.

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Speaker 2: I think it's more than in the case of New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: and you know, completely unexpectedly, New Zealand is a huge

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Speaker 2: player in the space industry as a result of Rocket Labs,

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Speaker 2: and that's not something that you would have necessarily guessed

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Speaker 2: fifteen years ago. You know, there's one hundred companies trying

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Speaker 2: to do what rocket Lab does and it's only rocket

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Speaker 2: Lab that's doing it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, do we lose anything by piggybacking with the British

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Speaker 1: or the Americans?

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Speaker 2: You lose, in particular the ability to have sovereign control

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Speaker 2: of so you know where the data is coming from

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Speaker 2: and nobody else can turn it off. It may not

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Speaker 2: be so much a government that we're piggybacking with in

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Speaker 2: those cases. In the cases of a lot of this

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Speaker 2: observation data that's increasingly they're provided by private firms and

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Speaker 2: so you may hope to be able to do it

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Speaker 2: cheaper than them. On the other hand, if you do that,

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Speaker 2: then obviously you know you're trying to compete with the

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Speaker 2: one off against somebody who's doing company in Folk.

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Speaker 1: Okay, if we pulled the trigger this afternoon just to

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Speaker 1: ruin to this, could how quickly are we up in

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Speaker 1: business and up and running any thing is to decide.

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Speaker 2: What to do, and so I think I think the

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Speaker 2: real question is whether the scope of the questions that

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Speaker 2: have been asked about her ambitious enough. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of countries that want to do this, and a lot

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Speaker 2: of times what they produce is is what's sometimes known

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Speaker 2: in the trade as a participation troper. You know, we

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Speaker 2: put our thing up there, we put ourselves on the

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Speaker 2: back for it, but we haven't actually done anything novel

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Speaker 2: on you. And you know, given how given New Zealands

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Speaker 2: you meique position in the space industry worldwide, I would say,

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Speaker 2: you know that you'd want to be providing the minister

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Speaker 2: with something that you know. She goes and tell the

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Speaker 2: other space houses that you know that they're excited and

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Speaker 2: they say, wow, it's amazing you guys are doing that,

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Speaker 2: And I think that would be the test stout. And

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Speaker 2: I don't know that that question is thing asked yet.

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Speaker 1: Good point, okay, Richard, appreciate your expertise as always, Richard

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Speaker 1: Easter or can University physics professor. And I assume that

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Speaker 1: Peter Beck's doing it for us and those sort of

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Speaker 1: people that probably takes the Air Force and the Navy

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Speaker 1: out of play. Therefore, when we go and launch the satellite,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't I don't know, to run into something or

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Speaker 1: go into well, you mean actually have to take it

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