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Speaker 5: Hello, a month gone and the new year, and we're
Speaker 5: back doing what we do best. Talking Cricket on the
Speaker 5: Front Foot, which includes a prestigious accolade for immediate curve,
Speaker 5: comes with no surprise named the ICC Women's Player of
Speaker 5: the Year for twenty twenty four see twenty titles decided.
Speaker 5: Has the standard improved in the New Zealand game by
Speaker 5: the constant play in the short format? Will we ever
Speaker 5: be able to match the Ossies in promotion and crowd
Speaker 5: numbers they gained from BBL, but we have outdone them.
Speaker 5: The Wisdom World Test team has been named two black
Speaker 5: Caps no Ossies a fair outcut. We'll discuss that final
Speaker 5: eleven shortly. I thought i'd be just a little bit
Speaker 5: parochial this morning, chaps wearing my cricket Wellington shirt.
Speaker 6: You'll have yours on.
Speaker 3: I'm still in them a pajamas ones.
Speaker 6: I was going to ask that us the next question.
Speaker 3: I always Wellington jerseys to bed.
Speaker 5: Yes, exactly, yes, of course, Well a man who could
Speaker 5: have two on this morning because he was a Central
Speaker 5: Districts man and I don't know who he would have
Speaker 5: wanted to win the title. And yeah, not yet, but
Speaker 5: they didn't get anywhere.
Speaker 8: Okay, all right, well no, actually it was. It was
Speaker 8: a perfect outcome. And I was clearly keep from my
Speaker 8: old alumni to when the the men's version and thrilled
Speaker 8: for the women took the wee women to win. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: I got, I got the I got the got the
Speaker 8: Cornell there excellent.
Speaker 5: Yes, indeed, well that's that's good. Let's talk about somebody
Speaker 5: who's got more than the Quernella. One of the stars
Speaker 5: of the women's game, Amelia k first New Zealander to
Speaker 5: win the Supreme Award and either the men's a women's
Speaker 5: category of the ICC winning the Women's Player of the Year,
Speaker 5: and for Amelia it was a special award ending what
Speaker 5: has been a demanding year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean after the year that I guess heat's
Speaker 4: challenging periods for the group after ten losses on the bounce,
Speaker 4: but did to win the World Cup was pretty special.
Speaker 4: So that's obviously the highlight. And be able to contribute
Speaker 4: for New Zealand and have the award at the end,
Speaker 4: that's special, but it's not really something you play for. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think it's huge. I love playing for New Zealand,
Speaker 4: I love representing the White Ferns. And for me, we
Speaker 4: have an outstanding group of players and support staff and
Speaker 4: I think within the last year my bowlings kind of
Speaker 4: improved so much and a lot of that comes down
Speaker 4: to the spin group we have. I love training with them,
Speaker 4: the spin coach with we have with Paul Wiseman, and
Speaker 4: just the fun we have with the ability to work
Speaker 4: hard in between. I think it's really important. And yeah,
Speaker 4: go out there and enjoy my cricket, keep things simple
Speaker 4: and love representing the team with some of the guest mates.
Speaker 5: So how special is it to be recognized among an
Speaker 5: outstanding group of women cricketers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, women's crickets growing and it's so good to see.
Speaker 4: And yeah, the other players that were nominated. I think
Speaker 4: we're also nominated for the fifty over it Player of
Speaker 4: the Year. And yeah, there's so many amazing cricketers around
Speaker 4: the world and we, I guess, get to see it
Speaker 4: more in the international but also in franchise leagues where
Speaker 4: sometimes you get to play with those players and it's
Speaker 4: so competitive. There's so many good players and it's just
Speaker 4: awesome to see the growth of the women's game.
Speaker 6: So what's the plan for this year.
Speaker 4: It's a good question. I just been trying to get
Speaker 4: better each and every year and work hard and find
Speaker 4: little things that are going to make me better. But
Speaker 4: I think this last year has been my bowling and
Speaker 4: not much has changed necessarily, but I think TEA twenty
Speaker 4: cricket players are coming hard at you, so just trying
Speaker 4: to bowl my best bawl and have builds that match
Speaker 4: that and keeping it really simple, and it seemed to
Speaker 4: work this year. We've also played in conditions that have
Speaker 4: suited my bowling, and I guess to buy where the
Speaker 4: watch ups are a bit slow and low, So I think, yeah,
Speaker 4: things were in my favor as well, which helps.
Speaker 3: And yeah, just simple plans.
Speaker 5: What about the prospect of being asked to captain the
Speaker 5: White Fans in the future.
Speaker 9: I'm not too sure at this stage.
Speaker 4: I think obviously she'd step down his Tea twenty captain
Speaker 4: after the world and there's things to think about there,
Speaker 4: and you know, after this well being break. I think
Speaker 4: for me, it's just focusing on what's next. At the moment,
Speaker 4: it's super smashed and trying to lead to Wellington Blaze
Speaker 4: well and when that title is the goal and then yeah,
Speaker 4: it's taking each thing as a thing as it comes.
Speaker 4: And when if I get asked to captain, it's going
Speaker 4: to be something to think about. It's not something you
Speaker 4: just want to say yes or no too lately because
Speaker 4: it's a huge onre to be out to captain new Zellen,
Speaker 4: So it'll take some thought and if I do it
Speaker 4: on and make sure I'm ready.
Speaker 5: Well, a lot of contenders for that award, did Jerry,
Speaker 5: but I think that it was probably ritually deserved across
Speaker 5: all forms of the game. Really, Amelia cur has just
Speaker 5: been a wonderful contributor to the woman's game. And you
Speaker 5: know she's been playing ten years, she's only twenty four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, Wa, it's been some journey for her,
Speaker 2: hasn't it, and she rightly acknowledges, you know, all the
Speaker 2: people that have played a part in the sort of
Speaker 2: cricketer that she's become already, and there's a fair few
Speaker 2: years left if she wants them. So I think she's
Speaker 2: been personally New Zealand's best or round player for a
Speaker 2: few years now, and that's all the players. Frankly, I
Speaker 2: guess because it was a t twenty World Cup year
Speaker 2: that that played quite a significant part in deciding the
Speaker 2: Player of the year, if you like. It was the
Speaker 2: sort of the highlight. And certainly in that competition she excelled.
Speaker 2: You know, I know that she didn't score the most runs.
Speaker 2: It wasn't an easy place to score runs. Actually, Dubai
Speaker 2: and Charger, they get the ball kept a bit low
Speaker 2: and it turned a bit and so it wasn't that
Speaker 2: easy for batsmen. There are a lot of catchers dropped.
Speaker 2: Hundreds of catchers dropped, weren't there in that in that tournament.
Speaker 2: But just if you look at say her bowling, for example,
Speaker 2: she had six matches, which is more than some of
Speaker 2: the other bowlers. Of course, making the final fifteen wickets,
Speaker 2: which is the most of any player, averaging seven economy
Speaker 2: rate of four point eight in the straight rate of nine, one.
Speaker 8: Bag of four.
Speaker 2: And if you then look at the people she got
Speaker 2: outs in the final against South Africa, she got the
Speaker 2: you know, the top player, wolf Art out from South
Speaker 2: Africa dismissed her. She also dismissed the number three bosh.
Speaker 2: Then you're to look in the wonder for the game
Speaker 2: before that, the Semi and the West Indies, she got
Speaker 2: DeAndre Dottin out there their top scorer and another thes
Speaker 2: two wickets. Pakistan she got Fatim Masana out, the top
Speaker 2: scorer for Pakistan and two others. Sri Lanka she got Atapatu,
Speaker 2: their top scorer. You can hear a pattern coming through,
Speaker 2: can't you. She gets good players out and she's always
Speaker 2: been even when they lost against Australia, Beth Mooney, Elise Parry,
Speaker 2: you know she got those players out and so she's
Speaker 2: always done that and she gets good players out and
Speaker 2: so that makes a heck of a difference to her side.
Speaker 2: And then of course with the bat and the final,
Speaker 2: she got the top score for New Zealand forty three
Speaker 2: or thirty eight. So you know she's a key player.
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. She's also could I just
Speaker 2: mentioned the catching. She is by far and away our
Speaker 2: most accurate catcher. I'm not saying she doesn't drop catch
Speaker 2: as ever, everyone does, but on that particular tournament, catchers
Speaker 2: went down like mellow puffs and a church vestry meeting
Speaker 2: and it was just that was to be honest, I mean,
Speaker 2: she was way ahead of everybody else there as well.
Speaker 5: So is that where I go to get my mellow
Speaker 5: puffs in a church vestry meeting?
Speaker 3: You do what you do, That's exactly where you go. Boy,
Speaker 3: that's right, you.
Speaker 5: Mos. I watched her play in the T two D
Speaker 5: finals over the weekend and you know, I instantly think
Speaker 5: of the female version of Kin Williamson. Is that a
Speaker 5: fair comparison.
Speaker 8: Well in the woman's game, yes and no. But her
Speaker 8: ability as an all rounder, as a truly, truly, very
Speaker 8: probably I argue you the best all round her in
Speaker 8: women's cricket. It's hard to go past that. I mean,
Speaker 8: she does it. And Jerry's point around. She she gets
Speaker 8: the best players out, she gets wickets, and that's not
Speaker 8: just in New Zealand. I mean I think she's just
Speaker 8: pretty much far too good for most of the people
Speaker 8: in domestic cricket. But she gets the best of the
Speaker 8: internationals out and that just says something and then and
Speaker 8: then goes in and that's it one or two or three. No, No,
Speaker 8: she's she's sister. Just just a class act. So perhaps
Speaker 8: even more because I don't think Cane bowls anymore or
Speaker 8: throws or whatever he used to do. So yeah, I'm
Speaker 8: a huge fan and of course just another great player
Speaker 8: out of Wellington, and yeah we should.
Speaker 7: Know this.
Speaker 5: I was just referring mainly to her batting and her
Speaker 5: ability to be innovative without taking risks or playing odd shots.
Speaker 5: I mean I watched her do what Glenn Turner used
Speaker 5: to do when the ODI game was first started, looking
Speaker 5: for areas to score.
Speaker 3: He used to chip the.
Speaker 5: Ball back over the bowler's head until they found a
Speaker 5: way of coming out. And she did that perfectly against
Speaker 5: Northern to get them through to a defendable total. I thought,
Speaker 5: you know, that is the sort of thinking that you
Speaker 5: need to be an achiever at the top level, and
Speaker 5: it comes to her naturally quite clearly.
Speaker 8: When I see a medicurve bat, I mean, she's a
Speaker 8: beautiful batter in the current current parlance. She plays cricket shot,
Speaker 8: whereas I think some of the some of her colleagues
Speaker 8: don't quite have that ability and therefore resort to, shall
Speaker 8: we say, somewhat more funky versions of trying to get runs.
Speaker 8: But she just has the ability to, as you say,
Speaker 8: play beautiful shots and then when she needs to she
Speaker 8: can play the ramp and whatever else. You No, she's
Speaker 8: some class act one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I watched her a little bit in the weekend.
Speaker 2: It's interesting, Wadds when you look at she started. I
Speaker 2: don't know how old she was when she started playing
Speaker 2: for New Zealand. Was twenty sixteen. She can't have been
Speaker 2: too oixteen. Yeah she started.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, she.
Speaker 2: Batted anywhere between ten, number ten and number six at
Speaker 2: the start. Early on they obviously regarded her as a
Speaker 2: bowler first and then a batsman.
Speaker 3: But she moved up, you know.
Speaker 2: In twenty and twenty she went to number five and
Speaker 2: got runs there, and then number four she got that
Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty not out against Ireland actually that
Speaker 2: would help the average. And then she in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: two she became our number three basically, And I think
Speaker 2: I agree with Moose in the sense that you know,
Speaker 2: you generally have your best all round batsman in the side.
Speaker 3: At that position.
Speaker 2: You handle the new ball if you have to, you
Speaker 2: lose an early wicket, you handle the powerplay if you're
Speaker 2: playing ODIs and t twenties. And then when the advantage
Speaker 2: of the relaxation of the field restriction and the gaps appear,
Speaker 2: she can take advantage of that playing orthodox cricket shots.
Speaker 2: And it particularly is obvious to me when she plays
Speaker 2: in the off side. On the off side, she which
Speaker 2: it's a stroke that relies more on body shape. I'm
Speaker 2: not thinking about a cut, because those those big hitters
Speaker 2: can play cuts as well, but they can't play drives.
Speaker 2: The bottom hand comes into play and they heave it
Speaker 2: through mid on or they even try and go squarer
Speaker 2: as they you know, they look to supply a lot
Speaker 2: of power to the stroke and so but she doesn't
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 3: She drives.
Speaker 2: She drives over the bowler, she drives over the covers,
Speaker 2: she drives along the ground, she punches.
Speaker 3: Off the back foot. She's got all the shots.
Speaker 2: That's not to say she's perfect, but you know, she
Speaker 2: has all the shots, and so she can play the
Speaker 2: appropriate shot to the ball. That's bold to her and
Speaker 2: so you see that. You can see it straight away.
Speaker 2: She's averaging something like forty nine and nod eyes at
Speaker 2: number three.
Speaker 3: So she is our best player and she adapts.
Speaker 2: I thought in the weekend she dragged her Wellington team
Speaker 2: on too.
Speaker 3: She dragged them by the scruff of the neck. Come
Speaker 3: with me to win this.
Speaker 2: We got low scores, two low scores, one against Northern
Speaker 2: and one against Otago, who bowled beautifully, I thought.
Speaker 3: But she just dragged them along, said we can win this.
Speaker 3: We can win a little bit of help from the.
Speaker 2: Ossies, a couple of Ossie mates because she plays over
Speaker 2: there in the Big Bash. But nevertheless, you know she
Speaker 2: was the one pulling them along, no doubt about that
Speaker 2: in my mind.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and she was needed to.
Speaker 5: Of course, I know all sides have injury problems, but
Speaker 5: Wellington had something like six of their front line first
Speaker 5: team picks injured. Leek Casperick with a broken thumb, Zara
Speaker 5: Gently with a broken hand. There's another player I forget
Speaker 5: to name who has a hand injury, the girl Plimmer.
Speaker 5: She's recovering from a legan injury. Yeah, she's away from
Speaker 5: the team now, so you know it's tough, particularly in
Speaker 5: the women's game where they don't have quite the depth
Speaker 5: that might be valuable if the men's side have have
Speaker 5: an injury. So you know, she's she's certainly a remarkable player,
Speaker 5: I think, quite clearly the next choice as captain, although
Speaker 5: you wonder what that will do to her game at
Speaker 5: the top level, whether she's going to have to take
Speaker 5: even more responsibility than.
Speaker 6: She does now.
Speaker 5: But she seems to handle that responsibility with ease, doesn't she.
Speaker 8: Oh? She she seems to be have a very calm demeanor.
Speaker 8: I really like her demeanor. There's a calmness about it,
Speaker 8: much as Kam Williamson has. There's no panic. And I guess, yeah,
Speaker 8: defending one one hundred and four runs, well, they had
Speaker 8: a precedent from the prior year where they defended something
Speaker 8: like eighty odd runs, And yes, so they wasn't their
Speaker 8: first rodeo so to speak. But also I was quite
Speaker 8: I thought it was great to have a couple of
Speaker 8: Australians out playing in our our game, you know, exposure
Speaker 8: to them fantastic and and I wish we could have
Speaker 8: more of that to a certain extent and now domestic game,
Speaker 8: but that's another that's another topic of course. But and
Speaker 8: they did pretty well on my dad and contributed yeah much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, at some stage we can have that discussion.
Speaker 1: Brian Waddell, Jeremy Coney on the front foot.
Speaker 5: The Stags and the Blaze, the Dream eleven, the Super
Speaker 5: Smash champions, the Stags winning for the fourth time and
Speaker 5: Wellington Blaze going back to back in a competition they've dominated.
Speaker 5: She can't stay out of the news too long.
Speaker 6: Medi Kerr.
Speaker 5: She led the Blaze to success in a tight, low
Speaker 5: scoring match much the same as the elimination final on
Speaker 5: the Saturday. But she's class and has the knack of
Speaker 5: making good decisions even if she isn't the dominant individual
Speaker 5: now wonder she was happy. A great title to secure and.
Speaker 9: So so so time to go back to back and
Speaker 9: to do it defending a load, I mean after twenty
Speaker 9: overs when you hit to bowl well and just fight
Speaker 9: like how to win that game. And the character of
Speaker 9: the team showed not this year but last year as well.
Speaker 9: It's yeah, I'm so proud of the group. If you
Speaker 9: told me at the start of the day, I would
Speaker 9: have taken more than one hundred and five or whatever
Speaker 9: it was every single day, So I didn't think it
Speaker 9: was enough, but I believe every minute that we could
Speaker 9: win that game. And with run rate pressure and with
Speaker 9: taking wickets, we stayed in the fight. I'd love to
Speaker 9: play a fine and where we make it easier for ourselves.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's very special.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think first and foremost it's about winning the
Speaker 9: power play. There's two fielders out they can take the
Speaker 9: game on and just set the tone with five dots
Speaker 9: to start and just keeping on building pressure. And then
Speaker 9: Hannah Darlington was exceptional today to take four in a final.
Speaker 9: The wickets she got were massive and I think every
Speaker 9: bowler stepped up and played their role. Yeah, I'm so proud.
Speaker 9: I think nothing's faced us this year. We have two
Speaker 9: new coaches at the start of the campaign. They've been exceptional,
Speaker 9: so calm, and they've helped this group massively in a
Speaker 9: short space of time. And then to lose a lot
Speaker 9: of key players for us and to turn up today
Speaker 9: and for the whole comp with injured players that are
Speaker 9: on the sideline and to believe every single day is
Speaker 9: the most most important thing. And that's what I'm most
Speaker 9: proud of.
Speaker 5: And the coach you referred to as Johnny Bassett Graham,
Speaker 5: who was coach of the under nineteen men's team and
Speaker 5: he joined the Blaze midway through this season. At the
Speaker 5: twenty twenty competition.
Speaker 10: Two pretty fantastic games of cricket. Though, so very proud
Speaker 10: of the effort.
Speaker 5: The women had to play it pretty hard last year
Speaker 5: and it was as close as last year's contest as
Speaker 5: well this year's wasn't it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, very much so. I guess I had the fortune
Speaker 10: of watching that game at home last year. But really
Speaker 10: cool to see how, I guess the character of this team.
Speaker 10: They never say die, attitude, the fight to the end,
Speaker 10: and I guess just a yeah makes up then come
Speaker 10: from a pretty tough situations. Yeah, a really cool moment
Speaker 10: for us.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Character is important too for this team this year in
Speaker 5: particular because you had to do it the hard way.
Speaker 5: Every side gets troubled by injuries, but you had a
Speaker 5: fair feast of.
Speaker 6: Them, didn't you.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we did, and pretty pretty big players for their
Speaker 10: scroup in terms of what they add to the team
Speaker 10: and the individual performances, so you're obviously big losses and yeah,
Speaker 10: I guess it does show the character and the fight
Speaker 10: of this team how they were able to do it.
Speaker 5: You're new to coaching the side, what was the key
Speaker 5: to you in terms of coming to grips with coaching
Speaker 5: this team that has a proud record in this competition too.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think I've made a pretty conscious effort remind
Speaker 10: the whole team that it's their success that they've had
Speaker 10: along the way to get here. It's, you know, a
Speaker 10: slight change and coaching set up shouldn't really impact that.
Speaker 10: It's very much just keeping on the recipe that they
Speaker 10: had that's been so successful over the years. And I
Speaker 10: guess just trying to keep them mie and calm, level
Speaker 10: headed and remind them that the game the players there
Speaker 10: to be enjoyed, so we've tried to just keep mice
Speaker 10: and relaxed and enjoyable. I guess, how did you feel
Speaker 10: with just one hundred and five on the board trying
Speaker 10: to defend that you would have loved a little bit
Speaker 10: more to defend for sure. I guess I was really
Speaker 10: confident in our ability in the field, and I guess
Speaker 10: the ballers across the board have the ability to squeeze
Speaker 10: or take wickets at different stages, so you're always hopeful.
Speaker 5: So I suppose you're also fortunate you have a world
Speaker 5: class player leading the side as well, and that makes
Speaker 5: a big difference in any team. I know she's only
Speaker 5: one person and the team make the performances, but it's
Speaker 5: nice to have that as your lead.
Speaker 4: Wasn't it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, she's a fantastic person first and foremost. How she's
Speaker 10: led this side as and truly awesome just to watch
Speaker 10: and be a part of. She's got a great cricket
Speaker 10: brain on her. We know how skillful she can be,
Speaker 10: and I guess, yeah, in big moments she's she's won
Speaker 10: in the ball in particular, and then it's just capable
Speaker 10: of opening the game up and turning turning a game
Speaker 10: on its head, I guess, which I think she did
Speaker 10: twice yesterday in the elimination final and then again today's
Speaker 10: sort of put us in a much better position.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I guess she must have looked at Otago
Speaker 5: and thought, well, you know they've being the front runners
Speaker 5: and they have a pretty good.
Speaker 10: Sigh Yeah too, right, and you know they beat us
Speaker 10: twice in the sort of pool play well round robin stages,
Speaker 10: and yeah, it's always going to be a tough game
Speaker 10: against them one and they've got a lot of depth.
Speaker 10: They're Buddy WAF coached by Craig and yeah, just happy
Speaker 10: to be on the.
Speaker 6: End of a w there in the country.
Speaker 5: To my belief, Central Districts overpowered the black Cap Riddle
Speaker 5: at Canterbury Kings with Will Young showing the skills and
Speaker 5: resilience to withstand the powerful Cannedy bowling attack.
Speaker 11: Yeah, awesome to be here today. Finish, finish, top of
Speaker 11: the table, go straight through the final and hold our
Speaker 11: nerve against a really quality Cannibory side. I can't wait
Speaker 11: to get into the sheds shortly with the boys and celebrate.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the top of the table.
Speaker 5: As you say, in terms of qualifying, what's the reason
Speaker 5: for the success of the side this year? Because it's
Speaker 5: a difficult comp isn't it It is?
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, anything can happen in TI twenty cricket.
Speaker 11: But one thing we did say early in the comp,
Speaker 11: off the back of some competitions, but we've sort of
Speaker 11: been slow starters. We said, look, let's let's take every
Speaker 11: game as if it's a final. It's an opportunity to
Speaker 11: showcase our skills and and and play with a smile
Speaker 11: on our face. And that's something that we've or a
Speaker 11: bit of a mantra really that we've we've had in
Speaker 11: this group. And I suppose we showed up to the
Speaker 11: basin today and it was business as usual. Another final,
Speaker 11: another opportunity to do just that, to show what we
Speaker 11: can do and and smile and represent Central dis priet.
Speaker 5: People have a chance to assess how strong the competition
Speaker 5: was this year. Was the quality what you would have
Speaker 5: expected from TEA twenty Yeah.
Speaker 11: I think I've always thought that Super Smash is of
Speaker 11: a really high quality. I mean, you just saw today
Speaker 11: the amount of black Caps that were in the final.
Speaker 11: It was awesome to see. And and there's black Caps
Speaker 11: right throughout right throughout the Supersmash teams. There's obviously a
Speaker 11: bit of a juggling act with the international calendar and guys,
Speaker 11: you know, wanting to rest and make sure that they're
Speaker 11: fully prepared and ready to go and called upon for
Speaker 11: black Caps duty. But I think it's awesome that the
Speaker 11: guys come back and pay for their play for their
Speaker 11: domestic sides as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, towards the end with the international players and it
Speaker 5: showed the value that they can bring.
Speaker 6: You know, you're gonna cook Canterbury. They had an international
Speaker 6: bowling attack. They short. Yeah.
Speaker 11: Yeah, at one stage Henry Shipley was on the sidelines.
Speaker 11: Has obviously paid for New Zealand. So it's a hell
Speaker 11: of a bowling attack. And as you say, like other
Speaker 11: black Caps like Darrell Mitchell came in and you know,
Speaker 11: that cool head and the a man for a crisis.
Speaker 11: I guess you could say, you know, he really got
Speaker 11: really helped put Cannibury on a roll and gain some
Speaker 11: momentum and they went from bottom of the table to
Speaker 11: the finals. It's amazing how quickly it can happen. So yeah,
Speaker 11: fair play to them. They had some real wind in
Speaker 11: their sails heading into this final, so it was awesome
Speaker 11: to put a stop to that and yeah finish on top.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you and Dane Flema looked to you had some
Speaker 5: inventum and some desire to win absolutely.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 11: Yeah, played with Dame for a hell of a long
Speaker 11: time now, so it was awesome to share a partnership
Speaker 11: with him in the middle and get us off to
Speaker 11: a good start at the top.
Speaker 5: So now you're off to the international scene again, way overseas.
Speaker 5: You don't get time of a rest after this one, no, no.
Speaker 11: Just quick insight. So I get back to ap just
Speaker 11: after ten tomorrow and then I'm back at the airport
Speaker 11: at three o'clock to fly to or start the journey
Speaker 11: to Pakistan. So yeah, yeah, just answer the next thing,
Speaker 11: and yeah, Pakistan will be a really interesting challenge. We've
Speaker 11: got to try series first up with South Africa, US
Speaker 11: and Pakistan, and then Champions Trophy will come around real quick.
Speaker 11: And that's the top best best eche sides in the world,
Speaker 11: so it's a really exciting prospect.
Speaker 5: And subcontinent teams in conditions that they know and enjoy,
Speaker 5: that's right.
Speaker 11: And we've got all subcontinent teams on our side of
Speaker 11: the pool, so there's no easy games and there's no
Speaker 11: easy beat so we're going to have to hit the
Speaker 11: ground running over there. But as I said before, it's
Speaker 11: really exciting and I can't wait to get over there
Speaker 11: and get stuck in.
Speaker 6: Thanks few time, going still rate with you, miheah, Thanks
Speaker 6: very much, Frie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, interesting point you made earlier Moose about the Australian
Speaker 5: women being part of the New Zealand competition. I think
Speaker 5: you're right in terms of the women's game, they certainly
Speaker 5: need overseas experience and that kind of quality just around
Speaker 5: the dressing room and being able to help their players,
Speaker 5: because we've got a lot of work to do with
Speaker 5: our women's game to bring it along. And add to
Speaker 5: that point the fact that in the final Canterbury had
Speaker 5: the US bowling attack, you know, five impressive, irresistible bowlers
Speaker 5: who demolished Northern districts in the elimination semi final, but
Speaker 5: were handled well by Dame Cleaver and by will Young.
Speaker 5: But that lifts the quality of your game and your competition,
Speaker 5: doesn't it.
Speaker 8: I don't think there's any question about that. And and
Speaker 8: I wanted to to to touch on the fact that
Speaker 8: there was some discussion on the television about that the
Speaker 8: Wicked where he wasn't he was too paced as they
Speaker 8: often say and such like. But but then when you
Speaker 8: when you when you watched Young and Dame Cleaver in
Speaker 8: my god, that now there's there is an underrated player,
Speaker 8: isn't it? Together with their captain Bruce two very fine players.
Speaker 8: But coming back to it, the way that Young in
Speaker 8: particular just says what a class act he is. Just
Speaker 8: play beautifully handled a very very good attack from Canterbury
Speaker 8: with a plum and I'm very measured and they won
Speaker 8: up with ease, didn't they fantastic because it's a lot
Speaker 8: of unheld and young players in that CD team, and
Speaker 8: you know, there's a lot about what they've done in
Speaker 8: this system and how they brought young players on. I know,
Speaker 8: I actually enjoyed that. I really did enjoyed seeing them
Speaker 8: win too, and comprehensively young though, very very good, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I agree with the youth policies that they
Speaker 2: seem to have chosen.
Speaker 3: I mean, boil the young opener.
Speaker 2: Clark, I didn't know much about who came in towards
Speaker 2: the end and played some beautiful couple of beautiful drives
Speaker 2: or Heathy was it might have been Heathe? Yeah, Heathey
Speaker 2: sure came and bowled his offices. I thought that was
Speaker 2: I mean, it's really I think it's great that we're
Speaker 2: seeing some of these junsters coming in and they're obviously
Speaker 2: reasonable quality players. And so even despite the fact that
Speaker 2: Young and Kleaver are a little older, and you know,
Speaker 2: Cleaver hit it very cleanly, didn't he. He picked up
Speaker 2: the links early on and attacked and looked to take
Speaker 2: the quicks on. Young just played a measured, anchored innings
Speaker 2: as we know that he can, and that helped when
Speaker 2: you're chasing.
Speaker 3: You don't want to lose early wickets.
Speaker 2: When you're chasing a low total, you put yourself under pressure.
Speaker 2: You stick or twist. Sometimes you don't know whether to
Speaker 2: attack or how to play, but he did so. I
Speaker 2: was pleased that they also bowled pretty well. I thought
Speaker 2: on that pitch, you know, using the slower bouncer and
Speaker 2: things like that, that that claimed wickets, getting men caught
Speaker 2: a deep third man and that sort of stuff. So
Speaker 2: well done to CD, I thought Kenton. They were certainly
Speaker 2: surely a batsman light You can't. You cannot select a
Speaker 2: side that has o'rour, Jamison, Henry and then Shipley and folks.
Speaker 3: You can't. You can't have.
Speaker 2: Five seamers and then have Sody in there as well
Speaker 2: as sixth bowler. A seventh bowler is Maconchie and then
Speaker 2: you could use Mitchell for a couple of overs. They
Speaker 2: just got too many bowlers, so that really is a
Speaker 2: mistake by Canterbury.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: They needed another batsman in there, and so it was costing,
Speaker 2: not the first day, what it does when you get
Speaker 2: all those bowlers, and especially in the semi final. I
Speaker 2: just thought it made the toss too important. You win
Speaker 2: the toss and bowl of those bowlers and they what
Speaker 2: were they fought five down for seven runs Northern I
Speaker 2: think something, yeah, So I mean it was it was
Speaker 2: that ruins the ga actually unfortunately, but in the second
Speaker 2: day it was very different, very different bowl and second
Speaker 2: defending a modest total pitch a different color.
Speaker 3: Green had gone and instead of.
Speaker 2: Gray cloud, topious gray cloud on the Saturday, suddenly there
Speaker 2: was a vast sweep of blue Great Wellington Day.
Speaker 3: And so of course it.
Speaker 2: Was a time not to use all those You couldn't
Speaker 2: pick Shipley and folks together.
Speaker 3: They had to have a batsman.
Speaker 5: Yes, that was probably one era where they made a mistake.
Speaker 5: As such, while we're talking about players and those players
Speaker 5: you mentioned from Central Moose that they've got to be
Speaker 5: seen at higher honors at some stage. But also the
Speaker 5: Canterbury Boil he was launched a little bit in the final,
Speaker 5: but he the left hander, is a powerful, clean striker
Speaker 5: of the ball as well, and I liked the look
Speaker 5: of the way he plays at the top level.
Speaker 8: They've canob we've certainly had a habit of producing a
Speaker 8: lot of very fine players. But but but but I
Speaker 8: think as we've touched on and when we've known that
Speaker 8: about Kenneby, and I agree with you about Boyle because
Speaker 8: isn't his brother also playing in c D. Yeah, yep,
Speaker 8: sons of one Justin Boyle. He also a Wellington to
Speaker 8: fire recall and pretty useful player his own right. But
Speaker 8: but I I I think that what it was, what's
Speaker 8: in what I've enjoyed about the supers messages, and I
Speaker 8: see it's also a greater interest from the public. Perhaps
Speaker 8: it's because it's free to be here. It's been covered
Speaker 8: on one of the sports station a lot more than
Speaker 8: had previously. But what I'm also seeing is the emergence
Speaker 8: of young players. You know, the couple we haven't mentioned
Speaker 8: as the left arm from c D Lynux very the
Speaker 8: young young quicker I think his name's Finley or we've
Speaker 8: got three very important wickets. Yeah, that's that's the final.
Speaker 8: Well you and if you went around other teams, there
Speaker 8: be other players there and I'm starting to see emerging
Speaker 8: level of death. Now can they go on to the
Speaker 8: national level? Who knows, But I'm rather buoyed by that
Speaker 8: from what I see around and say, some very very
Speaker 8: good players. I just would I don't think THO were
Speaker 8: in the current selection policies of how New Zealand cricket operate.
Speaker 8: Whether there's much root for them because it's harder to
Speaker 8: get out in so to speak, isn't it?
Speaker 5: But it may help the New Zealand game. I don't know,
Speaker 5: but it's certainly something that we need to investigate. As
Speaker 5: I say, the season's over, I'm just going to deliver
Speaker 5: a bouncer.
Speaker 3: It's time on the front foot.
Speaker 6: Here he goes.
Speaker 8: The bouncer.
Speaker 5: You're not allowed to do it in Tea twenty cricket,
Speaker 5: but I'm going to deliver a bouncer.
Speaker 6: It's all over.
Speaker 5: I won't miss the excessive celebrations that greet every wicket
Speaker 5: taken and anything that is worthy of just a normal ovation.
Speaker 5: And I won't miss the nonsensical, banal player interviews during
Speaker 5: play that add nothing apart from the fact they breathe
Speaker 5: heavily into the microphone because they're stressed, and they frankly
Speaker 5: add less than nothing to the tedious play by play
Speaker 5: exchangers dodge that bounce up.
Speaker 2: Well, well I'm going to agree with that. Not often
Speaker 2: you and I do, you know, feel so happy, happy
Speaker 2: towards each other, Brian. I just I just feel I
Speaker 2: think that this whole drive towards getting closer and closer
Speaker 2: to the game that comes from the broadcasters, and they
Speaker 2: always are trying to put the people and viewers as
Speaker 2: if they're players, and that's not possible unless you climb
Speaker 2: the fence and put some whites on and you selected.
Speaker 3: You know, it's it said, drive that, and you.
Speaker 2: Don't really learn too much, You're quite right, you just
Speaker 2: you just hear the usual sorts of things that the
Speaker 2: occasional one who is going to tell you about the game,
Speaker 2: then that's quite illuminating. But therefore you have to select
Speaker 2: that player very carefully, and.
Speaker 3: I don't think they do.
Speaker 2: I'm sure the players just look at it as upon it,
Speaker 2: you know, as oh you do it, I don't want
Speaker 2: to do it, and no, I don't want to do that,
Speaker 2: and and and so you give it, perhaps, you know,
Speaker 2: to someone who I don't know whatever the reason is.
Speaker 2: But I did see one that worked, and it was
Speaker 2: a bowler in England left arm quick and he was
Speaker 2: on the mic at the same time he was bowling,
Speaker 2: and he said, now I'm going to bowl this one here.
Speaker 2: I'm going to bowl us such and such and see
Speaker 2: because of so and so and I'm going to change
Speaker 2: my field and he popped it around there, and you
Speaker 2: give you became quite involved in the whole thing, but
Speaker 2: he was actually bowling at the time, you know. So
Speaker 2: that's different than speaking to someone way on the boundary
Speaker 2: who's getting feeling a bit cold.
Speaker 8: Well, and on that topic. The reason why I think
Speaker 8: we're subjected to it is because there have been examples
Speaker 8: of that, and I recall one in the Big Bash
Speaker 8: when one s k Warn was bowling to McCallum and
Speaker 8: said what he was going to bowl and truly did
Speaker 8: And of course Shane Wold was not only he was
Speaker 8: a phenomenal brigadar, but was actually pretty useful broadcaster, and
Speaker 8: he said, I'm going to bowl this when I'm gonna
Speaker 8: bowl that one, and then probably did and knocked him over.
Speaker 8: McCallum there was and that that was just fabulous stuff.
Speaker 8: But unfortunately you can't always repeat.
Speaker 3: That on the front foot with Waddle and Cony.
Speaker 5: Let's just finish up with well I slap on the
Speaker 5: face for the oz Pat Cummens men have somehow missed
Speaker 5: out on a place in the Wisden Test Team of
Speaker 5: the Year and it's created a lot of controversy. Our
Speaker 5: old friend Jim Maxwell made a comment that got himself
Speaker 5: into a bit of trouble with the Wisdom editor. Jim
Speaker 5: said they are baz bullshitted, that's what he call them.
Speaker 5: They need to play hard o versus this Ossie team,
Speaker 5: and that I think that's typical of Jim. But the
Speaker 5: team is Jaswell, Duckett, Williamson, Root, Brook, Mendus, Jamie Smith,
Speaker 5: the keeper, Jadajia Atkinson, Henry and Boomera. Now to a
Speaker 5: certain extent, you know, all have a claim to a place,
Speaker 5: but not to have an Australian or a South African
Speaker 5: in consideration, to my mind, defies the purpose. Is it
Speaker 5: all done just by stats?
Speaker 8: Clearly? Yeah, any other just there can't be any other
Speaker 8: basis for that.
Speaker 2: Yes, if you pick a side on averages alone, then
Speaker 2: it's the players in the teams that play most games,
Speaker 2: particularly at home, or you're playing opposition that are weaker sides,
Speaker 2: or you're playing both of those things weaker sides at home,
Speaker 2: and then you what you get in the end is
Speaker 2: just spurious teams. This side, for me, it only has
Speaker 2: four bowlers. You know. The backup to the bowlers are
Speaker 2: Roots and Brook and commandumendous, well command do menace is
Speaker 2: only bowl He bowls left arm spin. He's only bowled
Speaker 2: seventeen overs and tests. Brookers are sort of a slow
Speaker 2: medium bowler. It hardly bowls. And we know what Root
Speaker 2: bowls as well. You know they're going to rely a
Speaker 2: hell of a lot on Judasia. They've chosen the Aussie
Speaker 2: way with the lion you see as the fourth bowler,
Speaker 2: and they've chosen Judasia to do that job.
Speaker 3: That's okay when you're on turning.
Speaker 2: Tracks, but then you know, do you need three seemas
Speaker 2: if that's the case if you're on a turning track?
Speaker 2: And what about if you're playing in Aussie on New Zealand,
Speaker 2: South Africa or England and he gets through is over
Speaker 2: so quickly the seemas don't even get a rest from bowling.
Speaker 2: So that seems that seems a very weird kind of
Speaker 2: idea to me. Is Smith the best keeper? Jamie Smith?
Speaker 2: He's only played nine Tests. He played three against the
Speaker 2: West Indies in England. He played three against Sri Lanka
Speaker 2: in England, not really having any threatening bowling, you know,
Speaker 2: opening bowl he opened the batting. Those two sides had
Speaker 2: no warm up games to speak of. And then he
Speaker 2: played three against Pakistan, he missed out when England got
Speaker 2: eight hundred and thirty remember they got that or something
Speaker 2: like that. And then he played against the two spinning
Speaker 2: tracks and he didn't get many runs there. So I'm
Speaker 2: not sure whether he can say yet that he can
Speaker 2: be judged as the Test.
Speaker 3: Keeper of the year.
Speaker 2: What about Punt who missed a few Tests because of
Speaker 2: his injuries, he still got thirty dismissals and averaged thirty
Speaker 2: six as a keeper care He got forty six dismissals
Speaker 2: in nine matches, got four hundred and fifty runs at
Speaker 2: thirty three. What about Rizwan twenty two dismissals from seven matches,
Speaker 2: five hundred and thirty nine runs. If you want the
Speaker 2: batsman averaging forty four, there are other players they could
Speaker 2: have looked at.
Speaker 8: I don't know how you can have a team which
Speaker 8: doesn't have Commons Indoor hazel Wood when informed Hasard have
Speaker 8: been injury prone these days and you've got I mean,
Speaker 8: I know Henry's got great a lot of wickets, but
Speaker 8: I think I'm picking Hazelwood over Henry, and I'm certainly
Speaker 8: picking Commons over Atkinson all day, every day.
Speaker 6: And how do you what about Roba?
Speaker 8: Well absolutely absolutely, you know wow, Yeah, that that then
Speaker 8: becomes a real attack, doesn't it. You put Ravarda in there,
Speaker 8: and and and the other two. I'm afraid our boy
Speaker 8: probably has to miss out as do Zatkinson. But I
Speaker 8: don't I don't get the number two two opening better
Speaker 8: in the world.
Speaker 2: Well, that's correct, not Ducket either. Duckett there's a middle
Speaker 2: order player transformed into an opener. He doesn't let the
Speaker 2: ball go. No, who's heard of an opener who doesn't
Speaker 2: let the ball go? Anyway?
Speaker 5: The new idea, Yeah, interesting talking point, and it's something
Speaker 5: that we can probably we might try and get hold
Speaker 5: of Jimmy Maxwell and see if we can get his
Speaker 5: view on it at some stage. Might be something worth doing.
Speaker 5: Jury we haven't crossed Gym for a while.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, we'll have a credit with him and also invite
Speaker 2: the Wisdom the guy the selector on as well.
Speaker 6: The Wisdom editor.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll get him in as well.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so that'd be good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, thanks guys.
Speaker 5: Having a year to here, I'm sure that we've all
Speaker 5: settled into another month and we've got well, we've still
Speaker 5: had an international competition coming up this week. We've got
Speaker 5: the trip to Pakistan and the Champions Trophy. Pakistan are
Speaker 5: coming out here and we've got Ford Trophy and the
Speaker 5: hb J to look forward to. I'll see if I
Speaker 5: can find another bouncer with a new ball for next week.
Speaker 5: I'm sure we can create some interest in Thanks Motion
Speaker 5: Talk again.
Speaker 3: Thank you too, Jerry, Thanks Mos, Yeah, cheers mate.
Speaker 6: You guys mine out well.
Speaker 3: Wonderful summart do
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