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Speaker 5: Hello, a month gone and the new year, and we're

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Speaker 5: back doing what we do best. Talking Cricket on the

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Speaker 5: Front Foot, which includes a prestigious accolade for immediate curve,

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Speaker 5: comes with no surprise named the ICC Women's Player of

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Speaker 5: the Year for twenty twenty four see twenty titles decided.

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Speaker 5: Has the standard improved in the New Zealand game by

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Speaker 5: the constant play in the short format? Will we ever

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Speaker 5: be able to match the Ossies in promotion and crowd

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Speaker 5: numbers they gained from BBL, but we have outdone them.

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Speaker 5: The Wisdom World Test team has been named two black

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Speaker 5: Caps no Ossies a fair outcut. We'll discuss that final

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Speaker 5: eleven shortly. I thought i'd be just a little bit

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Speaker 5: parochial this morning, chaps wearing my cricket Wellington shirt.

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Speaker 6: You'll have yours on.

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Speaker 3: I'm still in them a pajamas ones.

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Speaker 6: I was going to ask that us the next question.

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Speaker 3: I always Wellington jerseys to bed.

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Speaker 5: Yes, exactly, yes, of course, Well a man who could

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Speaker 5: Districts man and I don't know who he would have

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Speaker 5: wanted to win the title. And yeah, not yet, but

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Speaker 5: they didn't get anywhere.

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Speaker 8: Okay, all right, well no, actually it was. It was

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Speaker 8: a perfect outcome. And I was clearly keep from my

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Speaker 8: old alumni to when the the men's version and thrilled

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Speaker 8: for the women took the wee women to win. So yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 8: I got, I got the I got the got the

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Speaker 5: Yes, indeed, well that's that's good. Let's talk about somebody

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Speaker 5: who's got more than the Quernella. One of the stars

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Speaker 5: of the women's game, Amelia k first New Zealander to

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Speaker 5: win the Supreme Award and either the men's a women's

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Speaker 5: category of the ICC winning the Women's Player of the Year,

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Speaker 5: and for Amelia it was a special award ending what

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Speaker 5: has been a demanding year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean after the year that I guess heat's

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Speaker 4: So that's obviously the highlight. And be able to contribute

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Speaker 4: that's special, but it's not really something you play for. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think it's huge. I love playing for New Zealand,

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Speaker 4: I love representing the White Ferns. And for me, we

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Speaker 4: I think within the last year my bowlings kind of

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Speaker 4: and love representing the team with some of the guest mates.

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Speaker 5: So how special is it to be recognized among an

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Speaker 4: Yeah, women's crickets growing and it's so good to see.

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Speaker 6: So what's the plan for this year.

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Speaker 4: It's a good question. I just been trying to get

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Speaker 5: What about the prospect of being asked to captain the

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Speaker 5: Well, a lot of contenders for that award, did Jerry,

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Speaker 2: You know, I know that she didn't score the most runs.

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Speaker 2: And if you then look at the people she got

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. She's also could I just

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Speaker 5: So is that where I go to get my mellow

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Speaker 3: You do what you do, That's exactly where you go. Boy,

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Speaker 5: Mos. I watched her play in the T two D

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Speaker 8: Well in the woman's game, yes and no. But her

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Speaker 5: I was just referring mainly to her batting and her

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Speaker 8: When I see a medicurve bat, I mean, she's a

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Speaker 8: But she just has the ability to, as you say,

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Speaker 2: I think I watched her a little bit in the weekend.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, Wadds when you look at she started. I

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Speaker 5: The Stags and the Blaze, the Dream eleven, the Super

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Speaker 9: So so so time to go back to back and

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Speaker 5: And the coach you referred to as Johnny Bassett Graham,

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Speaker 10: Two pretty fantastic games of cricket. Though, so very proud

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Speaker 11: Yeah, awesome to be here today. Finish, finish, top of

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Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, anything can happen in TI twenty cricket.

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Speaker 5: People have a chance to assess how strong the competition

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Speaker 11: right throughout right throughout the Supersmash teams. There's obviously a

437
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Speaker 11: bit of a juggling act with the international calendar and guys,

438
00:23:38,533 --> 00:23:40,733
Speaker 11: you know, wanting to rest and make sure that they're

439
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Speaker 11: fully prepared and ready to go and called upon for

440
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Speaker 11: black Caps duty. But I think it's awesome that the

441
00:23:45,293 --> 00:23:48,013
Speaker 11: guys come back and pay for their play for their

442
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Speaker 11: domestic sides as well.

443
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Speaker 5: Yeah, towards the end with the international players and it

444
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Speaker 5: showed the value that they can bring.

445
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Speaker 6: You know, you're gonna cook Canterbury. They had an international

446
00:23:55,733 --> 00:23:57,853
Speaker 6: bowling attack. They short. Yeah.

447
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Speaker 11: Yeah, at one stage Henry Shipley was on the sidelines.

448
00:24:01,253 --> 00:24:03,933
Speaker 11: Has obviously paid for New Zealand. So it's a hell

449
00:24:03,973 --> 00:24:06,133
Speaker 11: of a bowling attack. And as you say, like other

450
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Speaker 11: black Caps like Darrell Mitchell came in and you know,

451
00:24:08,613 --> 00:24:11,933
Speaker 11: that cool head and the a man for a crisis.

452
00:24:11,933 --> 00:24:15,053
Speaker 11: I guess you could say, you know, he really got

453
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Speaker 11: really helped put Cannibury on a roll and gain some

454
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Speaker 11: momentum and they went from bottom of the table to

455
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Speaker 11: the finals. It's amazing how quickly it can happen. So yeah,

456
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Speaker 11: fair play to them. They had some real wind in

457
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Speaker 11: their sails heading into this final, so it was awesome

458
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Speaker 11: to put a stop to that and yeah finish on top.

459
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you and Dane Flema looked to you had some

460
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Speaker 5: inventum and some desire to win absolutely.

461
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

462
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Speaker 11: Yeah, played with Dame for a hell of a long

463
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Speaker 11: time now, so it was awesome to share a partnership

464
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Speaker 11: with him in the middle and get us off to

465
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Speaker 11: a good start at the top.

466
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Speaker 5: So now you're off to the international scene again, way overseas.

467
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Speaker 5: You don't get time of a rest after this one, no, no.

468
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Speaker 11: Just quick insight. So I get back to ap just

469
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Speaker 11: after ten tomorrow and then I'm back at the airport

470
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Speaker 11: at three o'clock to fly to or start the journey

471
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Speaker 11: to Pakistan. So yeah, yeah, just answer the next thing,

472
00:25:03,613 --> 00:25:07,493
Speaker 11: and yeah, Pakistan will be a really interesting challenge. We've

473
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Speaker 11: got to try series first up with South Africa, US

474
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Speaker 11: and Pakistan, and then Champions Trophy will come around real quick.

475
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Speaker 11: And that's the top best best eche sides in the world,

476
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Speaker 11: so it's a really exciting prospect.

477
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Speaker 5: And subcontinent teams in conditions that they know and enjoy,

478
00:25:24,173 --> 00:25:24,773
Speaker 5: that's right.

479
00:25:24,653 --> 00:25:27,813
Speaker 11: And we've got all subcontinent teams on our side of

480
00:25:27,813 --> 00:25:30,813
Speaker 11: the pool, so there's no easy games and there's no

481
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Speaker 11: easy beat so we're going to have to hit the

482
00:25:32,253 --> 00:25:34,773
Speaker 11: ground running over there. But as I said before, it's

483
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Speaker 11: really exciting and I can't wait to get over there

484
00:25:36,813 --> 00:25:37,493
Speaker 11: and get stuck in.

485
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Speaker 6: Thanks few time, going still rate with you, miheah, Thanks

486
00:25:39,893 --> 00:25:40,493
Speaker 6: very much, Frie.

487
00:25:40,933 --> 00:25:44,093
Speaker 5: Yeah, interesting point you made earlier Moose about the Australian

488
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Speaker 5: women being part of the New Zealand competition. I think

489
00:25:47,653 --> 00:25:50,333
Speaker 5: you're right in terms of the women's game, they certainly

490
00:25:50,413 --> 00:25:56,213
Speaker 5: need overseas experience and that kind of quality just around

491
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Speaker 5: the dressing room and being able to help their players,

492
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Speaker 5: because we've got a lot of work to do with

493
00:26:00,693 --> 00:26:04,093
Speaker 5: our women's game to bring it along. And add to

494
00:26:04,133 --> 00:26:07,933
Speaker 5: that point the fact that in the final Canterbury had

495
00:26:07,973 --> 00:26:13,933
Speaker 5: the US bowling attack, you know, five impressive, irresistible bowlers

496
00:26:13,973 --> 00:26:17,973
Speaker 5: who demolished Northern districts in the elimination semi final, but

497
00:26:18,013 --> 00:26:22,493
Speaker 5: were handled well by Dame Cleaver and by will Young.

498
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Speaker 5: But that lifts the quality of your game and your competition,

499
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Speaker 5: doesn't it.

500
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Speaker 8: I don't think there's any question about that. And and

501
00:26:32,453 --> 00:26:34,613
Speaker 8: I wanted to to to touch on the fact that

502
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Speaker 8: there was some discussion on the television about that the

503
00:26:37,813 --> 00:26:41,133
Speaker 8: Wicked where he wasn't he was too paced as they

504
00:26:41,133 --> 00:26:45,533
Speaker 8: often say and such like. But but then when you

505
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Speaker 8: when you when you watched Young and Dame Cleaver in

506
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Speaker 8: my god, that now there's there is an underrated player,

507
00:26:51,333 --> 00:26:56,253
Speaker 8: isn't it? Together with their captain Bruce two very fine players.

508
00:26:56,533 --> 00:26:59,773
Speaker 8: But coming back to it, the way that Young in

509
00:26:59,773 --> 00:27:03,373
Speaker 8: particular just says what a class act he is. Just

510
00:27:03,453 --> 00:27:08,053
Speaker 8: play beautifully handled a very very good attack from Canterbury

511
00:27:08,133 --> 00:27:13,173
Speaker 8: with a plum and I'm very measured and they won

512
00:27:13,253 --> 00:27:16,533
Speaker 8: up with ease, didn't they fantastic because it's a lot

513
00:27:16,533 --> 00:27:20,693
Speaker 8: of unheld and young players in that CD team, and

514
00:27:20,733 --> 00:27:24,133
Speaker 8: you know, there's a lot about what they've done in

515
00:27:24,133 --> 00:27:28,333
Speaker 8: this system and how they brought young players on. I know,

516
00:27:28,813 --> 00:27:32,213
Speaker 8: I actually enjoyed that. I really did enjoyed seeing them

517
00:27:32,253 --> 00:27:37,413
Speaker 8: win too, and comprehensively young though, very very good, isn't it.

518
00:27:38,093 --> 00:27:43,773
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I agree with the youth policies that they

519
00:27:43,933 --> 00:27:45,133
Speaker 2: seem to have chosen.

520
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Speaker 3: I mean, boil the young opener.

521
00:27:50,773 --> 00:27:54,253
Speaker 2: Clark, I didn't know much about who came in towards

522
00:27:54,253 --> 00:27:57,053
Speaker 2: the end and played some beautiful couple of beautiful drives

523
00:27:57,373 --> 00:28:01,533
Speaker 2: or Heathy was it might have been Heathe? Yeah, Heathey

524
00:28:01,973 --> 00:28:05,613
Speaker 2: sure came and bowled his offices. I thought that was

525
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's really I think it's great that we're

526
00:28:09,693 --> 00:28:15,133
Speaker 2: seeing some of these junsters coming in and they're obviously

527
00:28:15,373 --> 00:28:19,613
Speaker 2: reasonable quality players. And so even despite the fact that

528
00:28:19,693 --> 00:28:22,813
Speaker 2: Young and Kleaver are a little older, and you know,

529
00:28:22,933 --> 00:28:25,853
Speaker 2: Cleaver hit it very cleanly, didn't he. He picked up

530
00:28:25,853 --> 00:28:28,133
Speaker 2: the links early on and attacked and looked to take

531
00:28:28,133 --> 00:28:34,293
Speaker 2: the quicks on. Young just played a measured, anchored innings

532
00:28:34,293 --> 00:28:36,213
Speaker 2: as we know that he can, and that helped when

533
00:28:36,213 --> 00:28:36,853
Speaker 2: you're chasing.

534
00:28:36,933 --> 00:28:38,453
Speaker 3: You don't want to lose early wickets.

535
00:28:38,453 --> 00:28:41,853
Speaker 2: When you're chasing a low total, you put yourself under pressure.

536
00:28:41,893 --> 00:28:44,813
Speaker 2: You stick or twist. Sometimes you don't know whether to

537
00:28:44,853 --> 00:28:49,573
Speaker 2: attack or how to play, but he did so. I

538
00:28:49,733 --> 00:28:52,333
Speaker 2: was pleased that they also bowled pretty well. I thought

539
00:28:52,373 --> 00:28:55,933
Speaker 2: on that pitch, you know, using the slower bouncer and

540
00:28:55,973 --> 00:28:59,773
Speaker 2: things like that, that that claimed wickets, getting men caught

541
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Speaker 2: a deep third man and that sort of stuff. So

542
00:29:04,533 --> 00:29:10,413
Speaker 2: well done to CD, I thought Kenton. They were certainly

543
00:29:10,533 --> 00:29:14,693
Speaker 2: surely a batsman light You can't. You cannot select a

544
00:29:14,813 --> 00:29:22,013
Speaker 2: side that has o'rour, Jamison, Henry and then Shipley and folks.

545
00:29:22,613 --> 00:29:24,293
Speaker 3: You can't. You can't have.

546
00:29:24,253 --> 00:29:27,893
Speaker 2: Five seamers and then have Sody in there as well

547
00:29:27,933 --> 00:29:31,333
Speaker 2: as sixth bowler. A seventh bowler is Maconchie and then

548
00:29:31,373 --> 00:29:33,973
Speaker 2: you could use Mitchell for a couple of overs. They

549
00:29:34,173 --> 00:29:37,933
Speaker 2: just got too many bowlers, so that really is a

550
00:29:37,973 --> 00:29:39,933
Speaker 2: mistake by Canterbury.

551
00:29:39,973 --> 00:29:40,853
Speaker 3: I think.

552
00:29:42,053 --> 00:29:45,373
Speaker 2: They needed another batsman in there, and so it was costing,

553
00:29:45,453 --> 00:29:47,533
Speaker 2: not the first day, what it does when you get

554
00:29:47,573 --> 00:29:52,413
Speaker 2: all those bowlers, and especially in the semi final. I

555
00:29:52,573 --> 00:29:55,253
Speaker 2: just thought it made the toss too important. You win

556
00:29:55,373 --> 00:29:58,253
Speaker 2: the toss and bowl of those bowlers and they what

557
00:29:58,253 --> 00:30:02,613
Speaker 2: were they fought five down for seven runs Northern I

558
00:30:02,653 --> 00:30:07,053
Speaker 2: think something, yeah, So I mean it was it was

559
00:30:07,453 --> 00:30:12,453
Speaker 2: that ruins the ga actually unfortunately, but in the second

560
00:30:12,493 --> 00:30:16,613
Speaker 2: day it was very different, very different bowl and second

561
00:30:16,973 --> 00:30:20,013
Speaker 2: defending a modest total pitch a different color.

562
00:30:20,373 --> 00:30:22,493
Speaker 3: Green had gone and instead of.

563
00:30:22,493 --> 00:30:26,973
Speaker 2: Gray cloud, topious gray cloud on the Saturday, suddenly there

564
00:30:27,013 --> 00:30:30,093
Speaker 2: was a vast sweep of blue Great Wellington Day.

565
00:30:30,693 --> 00:30:32,333
Speaker 3: And so of course it.

566
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Speaker 2: Was a time not to use all those You couldn't

567
00:30:34,493 --> 00:30:36,253
Speaker 2: pick Shipley and folks together.

568
00:30:37,093 --> 00:30:38,413
Speaker 3: They had to have a batsman.

569
00:30:39,453 --> 00:30:44,093
Speaker 5: Yes, that was probably one era where they made a mistake.

570
00:30:44,173 --> 00:30:47,053
Speaker 5: As such, while we're talking about players and those players

571
00:30:47,053 --> 00:30:50,093
Speaker 5: you mentioned from Central Moose that they've got to be

572
00:30:50,173 --> 00:30:54,493
Speaker 5: seen at higher honors at some stage. But also the

573
00:30:54,573 --> 00:30:59,853
Speaker 5: Canterbury Boil he was launched a little bit in the final,

574
00:31:00,413 --> 00:31:04,253
Speaker 5: but he the left hander, is a powerful, clean striker

575
00:31:04,293 --> 00:31:07,373
Speaker 5: of the ball as well, and I liked the look

576
00:31:07,373 --> 00:31:10,293
Speaker 5: of the way he plays at the top level.

577
00:31:11,813 --> 00:31:16,173
Speaker 8: They've canob we've certainly had a habit of producing a

578
00:31:16,213 --> 00:31:20,613
Speaker 8: lot of very fine players. But but but but I

579
00:31:20,613 --> 00:31:23,333
Speaker 8: think as we've touched on and when we've known that

580
00:31:23,333 --> 00:31:26,253
Speaker 8: about Kenneby, and I agree with you about Boyle because

581
00:31:26,533 --> 00:31:29,773
Speaker 8: isn't his brother also playing in c D. Yeah, yep,

582
00:31:30,893 --> 00:31:34,973
Speaker 8: sons of one Justin Boyle. He also a Wellington to

583
00:31:35,013 --> 00:31:39,173
Speaker 8: fire recall and pretty useful player his own right. But

584
00:31:39,173 --> 00:31:41,973
Speaker 8: but I I I think that what it was, what's

585
00:31:41,973 --> 00:31:45,373
Speaker 8: in what I've enjoyed about the supers messages, and I

586
00:31:45,733 --> 00:31:49,973
Speaker 8: see it's also a greater interest from the public. Perhaps

587
00:31:50,013 --> 00:31:52,973
Speaker 8: it's because it's free to be here. It's been covered

588
00:31:53,013 --> 00:31:56,013
Speaker 8: on one of the sports station a lot more than

589
00:31:56,373 --> 00:31:59,893
Speaker 8: had previously. But what I'm also seeing is the emergence

590
00:31:59,933 --> 00:32:02,253
Speaker 8: of young players. You know, the couple we haven't mentioned

591
00:32:02,293 --> 00:32:07,453
Speaker 8: as the left arm from c D Lynux very the

592
00:32:07,853 --> 00:32:12,493
Speaker 8: young young quicker I think his name's Finley or we've

593
00:32:12,493 --> 00:32:15,853
Speaker 8: got three very important wickets. Yeah, that's that's the final.

594
00:32:16,653 --> 00:32:20,093
Speaker 8: Well you and if you went around other teams, there

595
00:32:20,173 --> 00:32:25,253
Speaker 8: be other players there and I'm starting to see emerging

596
00:32:25,493 --> 00:32:27,973
Speaker 8: level of death. Now can they go on to the

597
00:32:28,053 --> 00:32:32,093
Speaker 8: national level? Who knows, But I'm rather buoyed by that

598
00:32:32,493 --> 00:32:36,333
Speaker 8: from what I see around and say, some very very

599
00:32:36,333 --> 00:32:39,133
Speaker 8: good players. I just would I don't think THO were

600
00:32:39,173 --> 00:32:42,173
Speaker 8: in the current selection policies of how New Zealand cricket operate.

601
00:32:42,573 --> 00:32:45,053
Speaker 8: Whether there's much root for them because it's harder to

602
00:32:45,053 --> 00:32:48,053
Speaker 8: get out in so to speak, isn't it?

603
00:32:48,573 --> 00:32:50,813
Speaker 5: But it may help the New Zealand game. I don't know,

604
00:32:50,893 --> 00:32:53,653
Speaker 5: but it's certainly something that we need to investigate. As

605
00:32:53,653 --> 00:32:56,373
Speaker 5: I say, the season's over, I'm just going to deliver

606
00:32:56,453 --> 00:32:57,053
Speaker 5: a bouncer.

607
00:32:57,333 --> 00:32:59,013
Speaker 3: It's time on the front foot.

608
00:32:59,253 --> 00:33:00,013
Speaker 6: Here he goes.

609
00:33:01,413 --> 00:33:02,013
Speaker 8: The bouncer.

610
00:33:02,453 --> 00:33:04,293
Speaker 5: You're not allowed to do it in Tea twenty cricket,

611
00:33:04,293 --> 00:33:05,653
Speaker 5: but I'm going to deliver a bouncer.

612
00:33:05,853 --> 00:33:06,493
Speaker 6: It's all over.

613
00:33:07,213 --> 00:33:10,853
Speaker 5: I won't miss the excessive celebrations that greet every wicket

614
00:33:11,013 --> 00:33:14,173
Speaker 5: taken and anything that is worthy of just a normal ovation.

615
00:33:15,053 --> 00:33:19,253
Speaker 5: And I won't miss the nonsensical, banal player interviews during

616
00:33:19,413 --> 00:33:23,293
Speaker 5: play that add nothing apart from the fact they breathe

617
00:33:23,333 --> 00:33:27,813
Speaker 5: heavily into the microphone because they're stressed, and they frankly

618
00:33:27,853 --> 00:33:30,933
Speaker 5: add less than nothing to the tedious play by play

619
00:33:30,973 --> 00:33:33,013
Speaker 5: exchangers dodge that bounce up.

620
00:33:33,813 --> 00:33:37,893
Speaker 2: Well, well I'm going to agree with that. Not often

621
00:33:38,013 --> 00:33:42,093
Speaker 2: you and I do, you know, feel so happy, happy

622
00:33:42,573 --> 00:33:46,853
Speaker 2: towards each other, Brian. I just I just feel I

623
00:33:47,453 --> 00:33:51,733
Speaker 2: think that this whole drive towards getting closer and closer

624
00:33:51,733 --> 00:33:56,973
Speaker 2: to the game that comes from the broadcasters, and they

625
00:33:57,093 --> 00:34:03,333
Speaker 2: always are trying to put the people and viewers as

626
00:34:03,373 --> 00:34:08,173
Speaker 2: if they're players, and that's not possible unless you climb

627
00:34:08,213 --> 00:34:10,653
Speaker 2: the fence and put some whites on and you selected.

628
00:34:11,573 --> 00:34:15,173
Speaker 3: You know, it's it said, drive that, and you.

629
00:34:15,213 --> 00:34:19,333
Speaker 2: Don't really learn too much, You're quite right, you just

630
00:34:19,573 --> 00:34:22,453
Speaker 2: you just hear the usual sorts of things that the

631
00:34:22,533 --> 00:34:25,573
Speaker 2: occasional one who is going to tell you about the game,

632
00:34:27,413 --> 00:34:30,653
Speaker 2: then that's quite illuminating. But therefore you have to select

633
00:34:30,653 --> 00:34:32,933
Speaker 2: that player very carefully, and.

634
00:34:32,933 --> 00:34:33,973
Speaker 3: I don't think they do.

635
00:34:34,293 --> 00:34:36,573
Speaker 2: I'm sure the players just look at it as upon it,

636
00:34:36,853 --> 00:34:38,893
Speaker 2: you know, as oh you do it, I don't want

637
00:34:38,893 --> 00:34:40,933
Speaker 2: to do it, and no, I don't want to do that,

638
00:34:41,573 --> 00:34:44,493
Speaker 2: and and and so you give it, perhaps, you know,

639
00:34:44,653 --> 00:34:48,333
Speaker 2: to someone who I don't know whatever the reason is.

640
00:34:48,533 --> 00:34:51,813
Speaker 2: But I did see one that worked, and it was

641
00:34:51,813 --> 00:34:56,413
Speaker 2: a bowler in England left arm quick and he was

642
00:34:56,453 --> 00:34:58,773
Speaker 2: on the mic at the same time he was bowling,

643
00:34:59,213 --> 00:35:00,973
Speaker 2: and he said, now I'm going to bowl this one here.

644
00:35:01,013 --> 00:35:02,693
Speaker 2: I'm going to bowl us such and such and see

645
00:35:02,733 --> 00:35:05,053
Speaker 2: because of so and so and I'm going to change

646
00:35:05,093 --> 00:35:07,653
Speaker 2: my field and he popped it around there, and you

647
00:35:07,693 --> 00:35:10,413
Speaker 2: give you became quite involved in the whole thing, but

648
00:35:10,493 --> 00:35:13,653
Speaker 2: he was actually bowling at the time, you know. So

649
00:35:14,093 --> 00:35:16,733
Speaker 2: that's different than speaking to someone way on the boundary

650
00:35:16,733 --> 00:35:18,653
Speaker 2: who's getting feeling a bit cold.

651
00:35:19,253 --> 00:35:22,453
Speaker 8: Well, and on that topic. The reason why I think

652
00:35:22,493 --> 00:35:27,413
Speaker 8: we're subjected to it is because there have been examples

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Speaker 8: of that, and I recall one in the Big Bash

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Speaker 8: when one s k Warn was bowling to McCallum and

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Speaker 8: said what he was going to bowl and truly did

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Speaker 8: And of course Shane Wold was not only he was

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Speaker 8: a phenomenal brigadar, but was actually pretty useful broadcaster, and

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Speaker 8: he said, I'm going to bowl this when I'm gonna

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Speaker 8: bowl that one, and then probably did and knocked him over.

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Speaker 8: McCallum there was and that that was just fabulous stuff.

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Speaker 8: But unfortunately you can't always repeat.

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Speaker 3: That on the front foot with Waddle and Cony.

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Speaker 5: Let's just finish up with well I slap on the

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Speaker 5: face for the oz Pat Cummens men have somehow missed

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Speaker 5: out on a place in the Wisden Test Team of

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Speaker 5: the Year and it's created a lot of controversy. Our

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Speaker 5: old friend Jim Maxwell made a comment that got himself

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Speaker 5: into a bit of trouble with the Wisdom editor. Jim

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Speaker 5: said they are baz bullshitted, that's what he call them.

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Speaker 5: They need to play hard o versus this Ossie team,

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Speaker 5: and that I think that's typical of Jim. But the

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Speaker 5: team is Jaswell, Duckett, Williamson, Root, Brook, Mendus, Jamie Smith,

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Speaker 5: the keeper, Jadajia Atkinson, Henry and Boomera. Now to a

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Speaker 5: certain extent, you know, all have a claim to a place,

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Speaker 5: but not to have an Australian or a South African

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Speaker 5: in consideration, to my mind, defies the purpose. Is it

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Speaker 5: all done just by stats?

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Speaker 8: Clearly? Yeah, any other just there can't be any other

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Speaker 8: basis for that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, if you pick a side on averages alone, then

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Speaker 2: it's the players in the teams that play most games,

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Speaker 2: particularly at home, or you're playing opposition that are weaker sides,

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Speaker 2: or you're playing both of those things weaker sides at home,

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Speaker 2: and then you what you get in the end is

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Speaker 2: just spurious teams. This side, for me, it only has

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Speaker 2: four bowlers. You know. The backup to the bowlers are

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Speaker 2: Roots and Brook and commandumendous, well command do menace is

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Speaker 2: only bowl He bowls left arm spin. He's only bowled

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Speaker 2: seventeen overs and tests. Brookers are sort of a slow

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Speaker 2: medium bowler. It hardly bowls. And we know what Root

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Speaker 2: bowls as well. You know they're going to rely a

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Speaker 2: hell of a lot on Judasia. They've chosen the Aussie

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Speaker 2: way with the lion you see as the fourth bowler,

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Speaker 2: and they've chosen Judasia to do that job.

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Speaker 3: That's okay when you're on turning.

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Speaker 2: Tracks, but then you know, do you need three seemas

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Speaker 2: if that's the case if you're on a turning track?

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Speaker 2: And what about if you're playing in Aussie on New Zealand,

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Speaker 2: South Africa or England and he gets through is over

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Speaker 2: so quickly the seemas don't even get a rest from bowling.

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Speaker 2: So that seems that seems a very weird kind of

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Speaker 2: idea to me. Is Smith the best keeper? Jamie Smith?

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Speaker 2: He's only played nine Tests. He played three against the

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Speaker 2: West Indies in England. He played three against Sri Lanka

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Speaker 2: in England, not really having any threatening bowling, you know,

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Speaker 2: opening bowl he opened the batting. Those two sides had

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Speaker 2: no warm up games to speak of. And then he

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Speaker 2: played three against Pakistan, he missed out when England got

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Speaker 2: eight hundred and thirty remember they got that or something

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Speaker 2: like that. And then he played against the two spinning

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Speaker 2: tracks and he didn't get many runs there. So I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure whether he can say yet that he can

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Speaker 2: be judged as the Test.

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Speaker 3: Keeper of the year.

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Speaker 2: What about Punt who missed a few Tests because of

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Speaker 2: his injuries, he still got thirty dismissals and averaged thirty

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Speaker 2: six as a keeper care He got forty six dismissals

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Speaker 2: in nine matches, got four hundred and fifty runs at

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Speaker 2: thirty three. What about Rizwan twenty two dismissals from seven matches,

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Speaker 2: five hundred and thirty nine runs. If you want the

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Speaker 2: batsman averaging forty four, there are other players they could

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Speaker 2: have looked at.

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Speaker 8: I don't know how you can have a team which

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Speaker 8: doesn't have Commons Indoor hazel Wood when informed Hasard have

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Speaker 8: been injury prone these days and you've got I mean,

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Speaker 8: I know Henry's got great a lot of wickets, but

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Speaker 8: I think I'm picking Hazelwood over Henry, and I'm certainly

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Speaker 8: picking Commons over Atkinson all day, every day.

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Speaker 6: And how do you what about Roba?

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Speaker 8: Well absolutely absolutely, you know wow, Yeah, that that then

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Speaker 8: becomes a real attack, doesn't it. You put Ravarda in there,

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Speaker 8: and and and the other two. I'm afraid our boy

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Speaker 8: probably has to miss out as do Zatkinson. But I

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Speaker 8: don't I don't get the number two two opening better

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Speaker 8: in the world.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's correct, not Ducket either. Duckett there's a middle

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Speaker 2: order player transformed into an opener. He doesn't let the

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Speaker 2: ball go. No, who's heard of an opener who doesn't

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Speaker 2: let the ball go? Anyway?

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Speaker 5: The new idea, Yeah, interesting talking point, and it's something

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Speaker 5: that we can probably we might try and get hold

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Speaker 5: of Jimmy Maxwell and see if we can get his

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Speaker 5: view on it at some stage. Might be something worth doing.

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Speaker 5: Jury we haven't crossed Gym for a while.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, we'll have a credit with him and also invite

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Speaker 2: the Wisdom the guy the selector on as well.

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Speaker 6: The Wisdom editor.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll get him in as well.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so that'd be good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, thanks guys.

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Speaker 5: Having a year to here, I'm sure that we've all

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Speaker 5: settled into another month and we've got well, we've still

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Speaker 5: had an international competition coming up this week. We've got

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Speaker 5: the trip to Pakistan and the Champions Trophy. Pakistan are

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Speaker 5: coming out here and we've got Ford Trophy and the

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Speaker 5: hb J to look forward to. I'll see if I

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Speaker 5: can find another bouncer with a new ball for next week.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure we can create some interest in Thanks Motion

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Speaker 5: Talk again.

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Speaker 3: Thank you too, Jerry, Thanks Mos, Yeah, cheers mate.

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Speaker 6: You guys mine out well.

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Speaker 3: Wonderful summart do

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