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Speaker 1: We have movement in the genetically modified food sector space.

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Speaker 1: Government's given the green light to new rules and definitions

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Speaker 1: food producer using new breeding techniques including gene editing, but

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Speaker 1: without foreign toy. You know, won't need a genetically modified

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Speaker 1: label in the supermarket. Andrew Hugot as the Minister of

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Speaker 1: Food and Is well, it's Andrew, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning Mike.

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Speaker 1: Now this lines up with Australia right, Yes.

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Speaker 2: This is part of the cisen's work Food Safety Australia

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Speaker 2: New Zealand and there was a proposal to change the

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Speaker 2: labeling requirements to ensure that the labeling requirements were in

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Speaker 2: line with the Australian legislation and the center being New

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Speaker 2: Zealand legislation.

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Speaker 1: Are we happy with that or of because we want

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Speaker 1: to be in sync so we don't have a whole

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Speaker 1: lot of you know, misunderstanding going on. Are we happy

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Speaker 1: with what they've got and what they've given us and

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Speaker 1: what we've agreed to or would we could we have

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Speaker 1: done something completely different?

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Speaker 2: No, No, I'm pretty comfortable with this that the lines

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Speaker 2: up with where we're going in terms of legislation. That

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Speaker 2: makes you know, it's simple to understand thing for producers

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Speaker 2: of food. You know, if there's no novel DNA in

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Speaker 2: this food, then you don't have to put a genetically

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Speaker 2: modified label on it and save some costs. So, you know,

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Speaker 2: as far as I'm concerned, it's pretty straightforward and sensible.

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Speaker 1: How controversial's ge these days? Has it settled down or not?

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Speaker 2: Look, there's still a lot of concern from some people,

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Speaker 2: and you know it's you know, get the odd quite

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Speaker 2: a few letters coming through of people who are really

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Speaker 2: opposed to it, and letters.

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Speaker 1: From the same people over and over again with scrrelly handwriting.

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Speaker 1: Or are they different?

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Speaker 2: There's a theory that are written in capitals in bold

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Speaker 2: but genderly. You know, there's a fair that are different.

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Speaker 2: But I guess I'd just say to these people, we're

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Speaker 2: not taking away your choice. If you don't want to

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Speaker 2: consume this stuff, if you don't want to partake, then

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Speaker 2: there will be options out there for you. You know, I

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Speaker 2: do get a lot of other letters from people wanting

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Speaker 2: all sorts of stuff put on labels for everything, And

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, you know, we just only

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Speaker 2: have the minimum beer on the labels in terms of

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Speaker 2: what you need for real safety information because putting all

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Speaker 2: this other stuff on just adds to cost and asparason

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Speaker 2: or where everyone's worried about the cost of food, is.

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Speaker 1: There anything actually out there at the moment? If only

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Speaker 1: to the supermarket this morning, can I find something genetically

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Speaker 1: engineered or not not?

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Speaker 2: In in terms of gene editing, there's probably very few

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Speaker 2: products that are on the market. I know, you know

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Speaker 2: there are genetically modified really no niche ingredients that may

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Speaker 2: go into various foods. But the way it is because

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Speaker 2: they're only a tiny little component, the whole product doesn't

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Speaker 2: need to be labeled genetically modified. So there's probably a

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Speaker 2: little bit out there, but not a hell of a lot.

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Speaker 1: So there's more for the future. Hey, have you been

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Speaker 1: following this aggra zero thing and these methane pills that

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Speaker 1: cow are going to be taking?

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Speaker 2: Haven't caught up with the methane as one ire that

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Speaker 2: appears the bowlus. Yes, I'm aware of the bowlers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know Bowluss's pills. I'm trying to go to

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Speaker 1: an urban market. But what I'm what I'm saying is

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Speaker 1: so you give these cows the bowlers and suddenly there

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Speaker 1: are methane is reduced by they claim seventy percent. I

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Speaker 1: mean that's a game changer, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is. What I would say though, is what

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Speaker 2: everyone probably doesn't realize, apart from those of us that

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Speaker 2: have put a ballus down a cow's throat. You do

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Speaker 2: have to push the animal into the headlock, close the headlock,

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Speaker 2: then wrestle with the animal eight minutes, mouth up, putting

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Speaker 2: the plunger down its throat. So that's fine, I would

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Speaker 2: prefer it'll be. Yes, it's potentially useful. It wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: a job I would be looking forward to doing with

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Speaker 2: five hundred odd cows. But you can be other technologies.

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Speaker 1: If you can reduce methane by seventy percent, where this

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Speaker 1: is where we want to be heading, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Look there's other I think there's this and other

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Speaker 2: technologies that you know will have the potential to remove

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Speaker 2: all this worrying and angst thing about me saying and

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Speaker 2: just let farmers carry on with farming. Yeah, I'd probably

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Speaker 2: be there's other technologies that I think would fit better

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Speaker 2: into my farm than that one in particular. But each

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Speaker 2: farm to each farmer to their own.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, good insight. Andrew Hoggart, who's the Minister of Food.

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Speaker 1: You see the wrestling the cow thing, I wasn't fully

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Speaker 1: aware of. So and if you got five hundred six

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Speaker 1: is right, you want to wrestle five hundred cows. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: my point being AGRA zero, we could be the first

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Speaker 1: agricultural sector in the world to gain these particular tools.

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Speaker 1: Ruminant buyer tech is developing these slow release boulders, right,

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Speaker 1: and you feed to the livestock. And so this is government.

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Speaker 1: It's got a government backing because AG zero a bunch

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Speaker 1: of investments, money invested, and now they've got something that

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Speaker 1: they think might be a game chudger.

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Speaker 2: So you've got to wrestle the car cow and then

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Speaker 2: put a plunger down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you grab the cow by the neck and and

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Speaker 1: you open it. I should know this, I'm from the

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Speaker 1: way exactly. And you open its mouth and then you

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Speaker 1: ram the bowlers down its throat and the cow is

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Speaker 1: the guest being, the guest being as Andrew, the guest

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Speaker 1: being that the cow's not overly keen on you doing that.

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Speaker 1: And if you do that five hundred times, that's a

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Speaker 1: good day's work, isn't it. And you deserve more than

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Speaker 1: ninety three thousand dollars a year.

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