1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:11,547 Speaker 1: from News Talk. 3 00:00:11,467 --> 00:00:17,427 Speaker 2: Zedbin Netball on the Court Thankfully. The Tiny Jamison Neple 4 00:00:17,507 --> 00:00:20,907 Speaker 2: series starts tonight in Auckland. The Silver Ferns up against 5 00:00:20,907 --> 00:00:23,947 Speaker 2: South Africa in a three game series. Game one event 6 00:00:23,987 --> 00:00:28,067 Speaker 2: Finder Stadium Center Pass tonight at seven forty, Game two 7 00:00:28,227 --> 00:00:31,347 Speaker 2: in Napier Wednesday night, same time, then in the Cargo 8 00:00:31,867 --> 00:00:35,787 Speaker 2: next Sunday evening again at seven forty. Silver Fern Shooter 9 00:00:35,987 --> 00:00:39,427 Speaker 2: and one of a four strong leadership group, Grace Wekett 10 00:00:39,707 --> 00:00:43,427 Speaker 2: is with us. Grace, let's address the elephant in the 11 00:00:43,507 --> 00:00:46,347 Speaker 2: room to start with. How challenging a time has this 12 00:00:46,467 --> 00:00:51,027 Speaker 2: been with Dame Noline Todua being stood down as your 13 00:00:51,027 --> 00:00:51,507 Speaker 2: head coach. 14 00:00:52,627 --> 00:00:55,787 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been very challenging. I think the words that 15 00:00:55,827 --> 00:00:58,027 Speaker 3: I've been using a lot the past few weeks has 16 00:00:58,067 --> 00:01:03,467 Speaker 3: been unprecedented. Sabby through a challenge and it's un chartered 17 00:01:03,507 --> 00:01:07,507 Speaker 3: borders for only myself, but the entire staff and Niple 18 00:01:07,587 --> 00:01:10,787 Speaker 3: New Villain and the whole playing group. So we've really 19 00:01:10,787 --> 00:01:13,107 Speaker 3: had to compartmentalize and take things one day at a 20 00:01:13,107 --> 00:01:16,507 Speaker 3: time and focused on Natash at Hands, which is taking 21 00:01:16,547 --> 00:01:17,467 Speaker 3: this theory through book. 22 00:01:18,147 --> 00:01:19,907 Speaker 2: How was this explained to the players. 23 00:01:21,267 --> 00:01:24,467 Speaker 3: There's lots of conversations that we've had with then the 24 00:01:24,507 --> 00:01:28,667 Speaker 3: playing group, communications from the Players Association along with Peple, 25 00:01:28,747 --> 00:01:31,787 Speaker 3: New Villain, and I guess some player for them to 26 00:01:31,867 --> 00:01:34,227 Speaker 3: be more than others. But a lot of the team 27 00:01:34,267 --> 00:01:40,987 Speaker 3: messaging has been about Silly Villain and the staffing group, 28 00:01:42,067 --> 00:01:44,347 Speaker 3: you know, as we mentioned in the media earlier, still 29 00:01:44,347 --> 00:01:47,667 Speaker 3: being in negotiations and trying to come to resolution and 30 00:01:47,747 --> 00:01:52,427 Speaker 3: until they're able to you know, fought out their quote 31 00:01:52,507 --> 00:01:56,107 Speaker 3: unquote dispute. No, it's not able to come into the 32 00:01:56,107 --> 00:01:59,107 Speaker 3: training environment. And obviously they've got the complete city and 33 00:01:59,147 --> 00:02:03,587 Speaker 3: I'm sure more context than that, but yeah, that's pretty 34 00:02:03,627 --> 00:02:06,147 Speaker 3: much a crux of it. And for us, as you know, 35 00:02:06,427 --> 00:02:08,547 Speaker 3: in ways of going if it has been we've had 36 00:02:08,587 --> 00:02:11,987 Speaker 3: to really just band together and be able to put 37 00:02:12,067 --> 00:02:14,187 Speaker 3: down and say what we need to but come together 38 00:02:14,267 --> 00:02:15,947 Speaker 3: to playing to get the job done. 39 00:02:16,587 --> 00:02:19,707 Speaker 2: How how was how is your relationship with Dane Nolan? 40 00:02:20,187 --> 00:02:20,427 Speaker 1: Yeah? 41 00:02:20,547 --> 00:02:23,427 Speaker 3: I have the utmost to to know. She's a fantastic person, 42 00:02:23,747 --> 00:02:26,827 Speaker 3: fantastic coach and the year that I've been coached her, 43 00:02:26,827 --> 00:02:29,787 Speaker 3: I foul very lucky to have been led by her 44 00:02:29,867 --> 00:02:32,147 Speaker 3: and to have learnt off her, and we do have 45 00:02:32,147 --> 00:02:36,307 Speaker 3: a strong relationships, so it's obviously challenging to you know, 46 00:02:36,427 --> 00:02:38,907 Speaker 3: be in this space without her. I've never been in 47 00:02:38,947 --> 00:02:42,147 Speaker 3: the friends and Nold as my coach. So yeah, like 48 00:02:42,147 --> 00:02:44,827 Speaker 3: I said, around precedented and obviously I think at the 49 00:02:44,907 --> 00:02:48,547 Speaker 3: core there's you know, people who love playing netball, who 50 00:02:48,587 --> 00:02:50,187 Speaker 3: want to be a part of netball and contrary to 51 00:02:50,187 --> 00:02:52,587 Speaker 3: the black streets, to this environment, and so I guess 52 00:02:52,627 --> 00:02:55,387 Speaker 3: for things to have turned in the way they have 53 00:02:56,107 --> 00:03:00,067 Speaker 3: is really challenging to you know, see the game and 54 00:02:59,707 --> 00:03:03,667 Speaker 3: the team and the people you care about, I guess 55 00:03:03,707 --> 00:03:07,707 Speaker 3: in the situation for just navigating that as it comes. 56 00:03:08,027 --> 00:03:10,987 Speaker 2: Yeah, is there a difference of opinion within the playing 57 00:03:11,027 --> 00:03:11,867 Speaker 2: group about. 58 00:03:11,587 --> 00:03:15,227 Speaker 3: This, I won't say show I think what we have 59 00:03:15,427 --> 00:03:19,107 Speaker 3: shared view on and knowing that there's a job at 60 00:03:19,107 --> 00:03:21,587 Speaker 3: hand and need to get that done and there hasn't 61 00:03:21,587 --> 00:03:24,067 Speaker 3: sent that much opportunity for us to speculate or to 62 00:03:25,227 --> 00:03:30,907 Speaker 3: you know, add to rumor for us what was what's 63 00:03:30,907 --> 00:03:34,507 Speaker 3: in shape of us, but enough for us to have 64 00:03:34,627 --> 00:03:38,787 Speaker 3: a united I guess point of view and going forward 65 00:03:38,867 --> 00:03:41,107 Speaker 3: and being united with one of our king values. And 66 00:03:41,147 --> 00:03:44,147 Speaker 3: so that's really guided us in terms of getting around 67 00:03:44,227 --> 00:03:47,867 Speaker 3: all the players in the group and ensuring that the 68 00:03:47,907 --> 00:03:51,707 Speaker 3: people you can't we have in this face experiencing a 69 00:03:52,067 --> 00:03:54,707 Speaker 3: typical fill of friends environment as as standard as it 70 00:03:54,747 --> 00:03:57,387 Speaker 3: can be given the circumstances, but having a positive experience 71 00:03:57,427 --> 00:04:00,547 Speaker 3: and have as much confidence in their abilities and training 72 00:04:00,627 --> 00:04:02,947 Speaker 3: under their about to perform. And that's kind of the 73 00:04:02,987 --> 00:04:04,427 Speaker 3: shared view we have this playing group. 74 00:04:05,027 --> 00:04:06,107 Speaker 2: Do you think she'll come back? 75 00:04:08,347 --> 00:04:14,387 Speaker 3: I can't say. I the messaging has been that that 76 00:04:14,587 --> 00:04:17,027 Speaker 3: kind of fits. It's about my pay grade. This shall 77 00:04:17,027 --> 00:04:18,587 Speaker 3: come back, and I'm not sure that much that we 78 00:04:18,667 --> 00:04:22,987 Speaker 3: can do about that. I would love to see Knowls 79 00:04:23,027 --> 00:04:26,667 Speaker 3: back and that's obviously a challenging situation, but whether it 80 00:04:26,667 --> 00:04:28,067 Speaker 3: she'll come back or not, I'm not sure. 81 00:04:28,547 --> 00:04:30,947 Speaker 2: So how have you put this order one side and 82 00:04:31,147 --> 00:04:35,627 Speaker 2: prepared for three test matches to come against South Africa. 83 00:04:36,267 --> 00:04:39,507 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not been easy, and it's a massive kudos 84 00:04:39,587 --> 00:04:42,427 Speaker 3: to the playing group and the staff and support systems 85 00:04:42,427 --> 00:04:45,307 Speaker 3: that we have around us to be given a space 86 00:04:45,307 --> 00:04:50,187 Speaker 3: space to express how we're feeling and be candid and 87 00:04:50,227 --> 00:04:55,347 Speaker 3: be open about how challenging this situation has been, and 88 00:04:55,907 --> 00:04:59,347 Speaker 3: to have that time and then be able to refit, 89 00:04:59,587 --> 00:05:02,507 Speaker 3: and I feel Foss has been that ability to departmental 90 00:05:02,547 --> 00:05:05,547 Speaker 3: life and put that to a side given that we 91 00:05:05,627 --> 00:05:08,587 Speaker 3: have a job to We have some great coaches who 92 00:05:08,627 --> 00:05:10,707 Speaker 3: have come in to support this group, who have you know, 93 00:05:10,787 --> 00:05:13,747 Speaker 3: paid a lot to be here to guide us, and 94 00:05:14,107 --> 00:05:17,227 Speaker 3: we're very grateful to a Bit and Leanna for taking 95 00:05:17,227 --> 00:05:22,307 Speaker 3: one opportunity to take control of this team in the meantime, 96 00:05:22,387 --> 00:05:25,707 Speaker 3: and they've been fantastic and understanding the delata tree of 97 00:05:25,747 --> 00:05:31,027 Speaker 3: the situation and wanting us to you know, feel how 98 00:05:31,067 --> 00:05:34,627 Speaker 3: we want to feel, but also with the understand that 99 00:05:34,627 --> 00:05:35,827 Speaker 3: we have to perform. 100 00:05:36,067 --> 00:05:39,147 Speaker 2: Yeah, that word compartmentalized is a great one, I'd imagine. 101 00:05:39,187 --> 00:05:40,587 Speaker 2: I don't know, but you must just be looking forward 102 00:05:40,587 --> 00:05:42,107 Speaker 2: to getting out there and playing netball, are you. 103 00:05:43,387 --> 00:05:45,427 Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I think at the end of the day, 104 00:05:45,587 --> 00:05:47,427 Speaker 3: that's why we're all here. It's what we love doing. 105 00:05:47,547 --> 00:05:50,907 Speaker 3: And you know, us players don't really want to get 106 00:05:50,947 --> 00:05:52,747 Speaker 3: inso much of the polity. Probably just want to food 107 00:05:52,787 --> 00:05:56,307 Speaker 3: up and get out there. So that is the exciting part. 108 00:05:56,427 --> 00:05:59,107 Speaker 3: And it's been you know, a long time coming for 109 00:05:59,787 --> 00:06:02,827 Speaker 3: me having been out for a wee while and also 110 00:06:02,947 --> 00:06:05,707 Speaker 3: for a lot of these Gibby contents. There. It's their 111 00:06:05,707 --> 00:06:08,907 Speaker 3: first time and space and it's special and it's a privilege. 112 00:06:09,027 --> 00:06:10,467 Speaker 3: And so just to be able to take caught as 113 00:06:10,467 --> 00:06:11,587 Speaker 3: a group we take. 114 00:06:12,307 --> 00:06:15,067 Speaker 2: I look at the shooters and no Amelia, Ranny Canacio, 115 00:06:15,147 --> 00:06:18,107 Speaker 2: No Maa Wilson, Tiana Maturo, Amelia Warmsley's not in this team, 116 00:06:18,827 --> 00:06:21,907 Speaker 2: she's playing age group stuff. So the other shooters Martina Salmon, 117 00:06:21,987 --> 00:06:24,867 Speaker 2: Georgia Heaven and Fielder Vui. How much more of a 118 00:06:24,947 --> 00:06:28,707 Speaker 2: leadership role will you play with less experience there in 119 00:06:28,747 --> 00:06:29,507 Speaker 2: the shooting circle? 120 00:06:31,267 --> 00:06:34,827 Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely it's not lost for me the experience 121 00:06:35,227 --> 00:06:37,787 Speaker 3: in our group, especially the shooters and the gaps that 122 00:06:37,827 --> 00:06:40,747 Speaker 3: there are, but I see those gaps and experience a 123 00:06:40,907 --> 00:06:43,827 Speaker 3: huge opportunity for growth, not only for both players that 124 00:06:43,867 --> 00:06:48,027 Speaker 3: for myself, I'm excited by the opportunity to you know, 125 00:06:48,267 --> 00:06:50,867 Speaker 3: she thinks that leadership space more and I really believe 126 00:06:50,867 --> 00:06:53,147 Speaker 3: that my job hasn't changed. I think I can lead 127 00:06:53,187 --> 00:06:56,907 Speaker 3: by just shooting well and being available and using my voice. 128 00:06:56,907 --> 00:07:00,387 Speaker 3: And so it's really exciting for this group and to 129 00:07:00,467 --> 00:07:04,107 Speaker 3: have new blood and fresh spaces who are hungry and eager, 130 00:07:05,067 --> 00:07:08,467 Speaker 3: and for me, individual started to see how they shift 131 00:07:08,587 --> 00:07:10,987 Speaker 3: and what we're able to do. It's just really really 132 00:07:11,027 --> 00:07:14,227 Speaker 3: fantastic players, so much to give and amazing combinations. So 133 00:07:14,307 --> 00:07:16,467 Speaker 3: seeing them my training the fleet has been fantastic and 134 00:07:16,787 --> 00:07:18,227 Speaker 3: I can't like to see all the girls. 135 00:07:17,947 --> 00:07:21,027 Speaker 2: Take court and you, Karen Berger, Kelly Jackson, and Kate 136 00:07:21,067 --> 00:07:25,307 Speaker 2: hefferen and are all co captains, So how will that work? 137 00:07:25,507 --> 00:07:27,147 Speaker 2: How has that been working this week? 138 00:07:28,507 --> 00:07:31,227 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been fantastic. I think being able to lean 139 00:07:31,227 --> 00:07:35,547 Speaker 3: on each other, especially players being across different parts of 140 00:07:35,587 --> 00:07:39,267 Speaker 3: the court and having different levels of captains experience has 141 00:07:39,267 --> 00:07:41,627 Speaker 3: been great for me in the sensive learning off them 142 00:07:41,667 --> 00:07:44,187 Speaker 3: and understanding what kind of captain I want to be 143 00:07:44,227 --> 00:07:46,827 Speaker 3: and where I see myself fitting in, but also just 144 00:07:46,827 --> 00:07:51,107 Speaker 3: sharing that load of leadership, especially given the current space 145 00:07:51,147 --> 00:07:53,547 Speaker 3: of the team at the moment, So just being able 146 00:07:53,587 --> 00:07:57,067 Speaker 3: to share the pressure and lean on each other a 147 00:07:57,107 --> 00:07:59,547 Speaker 3: bit more and be a lot for one person's taken 148 00:07:59,627 --> 00:08:01,627 Speaker 3: at the moment. So I think it's fantastic to have 149 00:08:01,947 --> 00:08:05,267 Speaker 3: three others around me and like wise me be able 150 00:08:05,267 --> 00:08:07,987 Speaker 3: to support the other and all parts of the job. 151 00:08:08,347 --> 00:08:10,147 Speaker 2: And it's been a while since the Silver Ferns have 152 00:08:10,187 --> 00:08:12,507 Speaker 2: played South Africa, so have you managed to get a 153 00:08:12,547 --> 00:08:15,107 Speaker 2: gauge on the threats that they'll pose to you across 154 00:08:15,147 --> 00:08:15,867 Speaker 2: these three games. 155 00:08:16,747 --> 00:08:19,227 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, spend a lot of time in camp, you know, 156 00:08:19,467 --> 00:08:22,347 Speaker 3: studying video and looking at what we're coming up against 157 00:08:22,387 --> 00:08:25,267 Speaker 3: and preparing the game plans and the like, and it's 158 00:08:25,267 --> 00:08:28,267 Speaker 3: an exciting opportunity. They're a very strong, fied, very athletic, 159 00:08:29,147 --> 00:08:31,467 Speaker 3: They have a lot of firepower and both ends of 160 00:08:31,507 --> 00:08:35,187 Speaker 3: the court, lots of hungry up and coming players. So 161 00:08:35,267 --> 00:08:38,827 Speaker 3: it's a really good opportunity to test ourselves against them 162 00:08:38,907 --> 00:08:42,947 Speaker 3: and really see where we're at in international benchmark. It's 163 00:08:42,987 --> 00:08:45,627 Speaker 3: been a long time since you've played them, and yeah, 164 00:08:45,667 --> 00:08:47,547 Speaker 3: there's an element of unknown, but I guess it's e 165 00:08:47,627 --> 00:08:49,387 Speaker 3: starting for us to really see the measure up. 166 00:08:49,547 --> 00:08:52,187 Speaker 2: And of course your presence here as a result of 167 00:08:52,227 --> 00:08:55,067 Speaker 2: the change in eligibility rules, and I know that's now 168 00:08:55,307 --> 00:08:58,707 Speaker 2: sort of done and dusted and thank goodness that that 169 00:08:58,787 --> 00:09:01,427 Speaker 2: it's finally come to fruition. But when you reflect back 170 00:09:01,467 --> 00:09:04,867 Speaker 2: on that time now, Grace, how do you reflect upon it? 171 00:09:06,427 --> 00:09:07,747 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a bit of a real wind. I 172 00:09:07,747 --> 00:09:09,947 Speaker 3: guess it's time last year knowing that I would be 173 00:09:09,947 --> 00:09:12,427 Speaker 3: able to see out the international season, but that would 174 00:09:12,467 --> 00:09:15,667 Speaker 3: be the end of it. For who ever knows when, 175 00:09:15,707 --> 00:09:19,387 Speaker 3: and it was hard to think about the future and 176 00:09:19,427 --> 00:09:21,227 Speaker 3: what that could look like for me and didn't know 177 00:09:21,267 --> 00:09:22,947 Speaker 3: when I'd be able to put the dricts back on again. 178 00:09:23,027 --> 00:09:24,867 Speaker 3: So I think the fast forwards now and be in 179 00:09:24,867 --> 00:09:27,707 Speaker 3: this place as women are very grateful for and the 180 00:09:27,747 --> 00:09:29,867 Speaker 3: way that the starts have aligned, and not only for myself, 181 00:09:29,907 --> 00:09:31,547 Speaker 3: with the other players who are also able to take 182 00:09:31,587 --> 00:09:34,227 Speaker 3: on the opportunity to play overseas. I think it's fantastic 183 00:09:34,307 --> 00:09:37,187 Speaker 3: and I've been saying that I do believe it could 184 00:09:37,187 --> 00:09:40,267 Speaker 3: win when and I really do mean that, both for 185 00:09:40,427 --> 00:09:43,947 Speaker 3: the players who are able to challenge themselves and grow 186 00:09:43,987 --> 00:09:46,987 Speaker 3: with individuals, but also for the game in New Zealand 187 00:09:47,067 --> 00:09:50,867 Speaker 3: and the opportunity that it opens up for pathways to 188 00:09:50,947 --> 00:09:55,187 Speaker 3: younger players and opportunities to get up an aim dipremiership. 189 00:09:55,227 --> 00:09:57,827 Speaker 3: So it's exciting and I'd be very grateful to be 190 00:09:57,827 --> 00:10:01,067 Speaker 3: back here in the team that I love, with the 191 00:10:01,107 --> 00:10:03,067 Speaker 3: girls that I've grown up from a hoot Fallworth and 192 00:10:03,067 --> 00:10:04,467 Speaker 3: I'm just so happy to be taking courtworth. 193 00:10:04,707 --> 00:10:07,427 Speaker 2: It'd be great to be talking about some netpell on 194 00:10:07,507 --> 00:10:09,467 Speaker 2: the court. Grace, thanks for taking the time. All the 195 00:10:09,467 --> 00:10:11,827 Speaker 2: best in this three game series against South Africa. 196 00:10:11,947 --> 00:10:13,227 Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks so much, No, thank. 197 00:10:13,107 --> 00:10:15,827 Speaker 2: You, Grace, Grace WICKI there out of the Silver Ferns 198 00:10:15,827 --> 00:10:19,227 Speaker 2: seven forty Tonight, seven forty Wednesday, seven forty next Sunday. 199 00:10:19,307 --> 00:10:22,347 Speaker 2: All of those games incidentally are live on Gold Sport 200 00:10:22,467 --> 00:10:25,107 Speaker 2: and iHeartRadio, so you can tune in and hear what 201 00:10:25,187 --> 00:10:28,187 Speaker 2: happens on the court. Look, I mean, clearly, this has 202 00:10:28,227 --> 00:10:32,147 Speaker 2: been hugely disruptive to the players and I'd imagine there 203 00:10:32,147 --> 00:10:35,347 Speaker 2: would be divided opinion in the team over this has 204 00:10:35,387 --> 00:10:38,267 Speaker 2: to be and there's no clarity that beyond this series. 205 00:10:39,027 --> 00:10:42,187 Speaker 2: The Silver Ferns, after this three game series against South Africa, 206 00:10:42,227 --> 00:10:45,547 Speaker 2: played the Constellation Cup four Tests against Australia next month. 207 00:10:45,587 --> 00:10:48,747 Speaker 2: Two home to away is Dame noling Toto. We're going 208 00:10:48,787 --> 00:10:53,067 Speaker 2: to be back for those games. If not what happens. 209 00:10:54,627 --> 00:10:57,627 Speaker 2: The reason she's not there for these games is because 210 00:10:57,707 --> 00:11:02,307 Speaker 2: of this ongoing investigation and the fact that as I 211 00:11:02,427 --> 00:11:07,227 Speaker 2: understand it anyway, these issues, whatever they were, were raised 212 00:11:07,227 --> 00:11:10,747 Speaker 2: a long time ago and it's only now only now 213 00:11:11,507 --> 00:11:15,507 Speaker 2: that they have seen fit to open this investigation, and 214 00:11:15,547 --> 00:11:18,707 Speaker 2: that's got so close to this tiny Jamerson series that 215 00:11:18,707 --> 00:11:24,947 Speaker 2: they've had to bring an Evon Evett rather McCausland jury 216 00:11:25,107 --> 00:11:27,107 Speaker 2: to be coach, and she said, look after the third game, 217 00:11:27,147 --> 00:11:28,827 Speaker 2: I'm going back to my job. I'm going back to 218 00:11:28,827 --> 00:11:32,627 Speaker 2: my teaching job. So she doesn't want the job full time. 219 00:11:33,387 --> 00:11:36,267 Speaker 2: It's just a mess, isn't it just an absolute mess? 220 00:11:38,147 --> 00:11:38,347 Speaker 3: Look? 221 00:11:38,387 --> 00:11:40,627 Speaker 2: New Zealand ship beat South Africa. We're a better netball 222 00:11:40,627 --> 00:11:42,907 Speaker 2: team than they are. And thankfully we're going to talk 223 00:11:42,907 --> 00:11:44,947 Speaker 2: about some on court stuff. But you don't envy the 224 00:11:44,987 --> 00:11:49,027 Speaker 2: playing group in all of this, and what about netball fans? 225 00:11:49,067 --> 00:11:52,627 Speaker 2: Text here, Gray says she doesn't want to get into 226 00:11:52,667 --> 00:11:54,387 Speaker 2: the politics of it. That's great, but this is all 227 00:11:54,387 --> 00:11:59,427 Speaker 2: the sport has become now own goal after own goal, eligibility, 228 00:11:59,547 --> 00:12:04,627 Speaker 2: TV deals, alleged player revolts, zero transparency. Explain all of 229 00:12:04,707 --> 00:12:05,987 Speaker 2: that to a ten year old fan. It's a very 230 00:12:05,987 --> 00:12:06,347 Speaker 2: good point. 231 00:12:07,227 --> 00:12:10,427 Speaker 1: For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live 232 00:12:10,547 --> 00:12:13,827 Speaker 1: to News Talk set B weekends from midday, or follow 233 00:12:13,867 --> 00:12:15,467 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.