1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,387 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:13,227 Speaker 1: from News Talks, EDB Talks HEB. 3 00:00:13,347 --> 00:00:16,027 Speaker 2: This time every Saturday afternoon, we have the pleasure of 4 00:00:16,067 --> 00:00:19,387 Speaker 2: the company of Australian correspondent Adam Peacock. Today's no exception. 5 00:00:19,507 --> 00:00:20,307 Speaker 2: How are you, mate? 6 00:00:21,427 --> 00:00:22,387 Speaker 3: Good? Piney yourself? 7 00:00:22,707 --> 00:00:24,467 Speaker 2: Oh, very good, thanks mate. We've been talking a bit 8 00:00:24,467 --> 00:00:27,067 Speaker 2: over here today in the last forty eight hours about 9 00:00:27,147 --> 00:00:30,067 Speaker 2: Leon McDonald's departure from the All Blacks coaching set up. 10 00:00:30,067 --> 00:00:33,387 Speaker 2: You reckon Wallaby's coach Joe Schmidt might have been on 11 00:00:33,427 --> 00:00:33,907 Speaker 2: the phone to. 12 00:00:33,867 --> 00:00:38,827 Speaker 3: Him, possibly, It depends what Joe needs. I mean, if 13 00:00:39,067 --> 00:00:44,067 Speaker 3: it's a tack coach or attack minded coach they need, well, 14 00:00:44,227 --> 00:00:45,867 Speaker 3: it seems like a pretty good fit. They know each 15 00:00:45,867 --> 00:00:49,347 Speaker 3: other pretty well. McDonald's still remember him covering us up 16 00:00:49,387 --> 00:00:52,027 Speaker 3: on more than the odd occasions for the All Blacks. 17 00:00:52,587 --> 00:00:57,707 Speaker 3: So yeah, and the Wallabies are still kind of forming themselves, 18 00:00:57,827 --> 00:01:00,387 Speaker 3: especially with the ball. As we saw in there's two 19 00:01:00,387 --> 00:01:02,587 Speaker 3: matches so far against South Africa that the ones that 20 00:01:02,667 --> 00:01:04,787 Speaker 3: really count. I mean, obviously there was Wales and Georgia 21 00:01:04,827 --> 00:01:08,467 Speaker 3: before that, but the the heavy hitters, which South Africa 22 00:01:08,547 --> 00:01:12,467 Speaker 3: definitely are struggled to kind of find some cohesiveness. So 23 00:01:13,307 --> 00:01:16,227 Speaker 3: it could very well be an option, and I think 24 00:01:16,267 --> 00:01:18,107 Speaker 3: a lot of people in Australian rugby will be well 25 00:01:18,147 --> 00:01:21,947 Speaker 3: open to the idea because any knowledge that can value 26 00:01:21,987 --> 00:01:25,187 Speaker 3: add the set up over here. And I don't know, 27 00:01:25,307 --> 00:01:27,387 Speaker 3: maybe it's something that they could look at to help 28 00:01:27,427 --> 00:01:30,907 Speaker 3: out the underage teams as well across the board and 29 00:01:30,987 --> 00:01:32,947 Speaker 3: maybe he can have a remit there. But if he's 30 00:01:32,947 --> 00:01:35,667 Speaker 3: all of us Hadden available thanks to the butting of 31 00:01:35,707 --> 00:01:38,387 Speaker 3: heads with the AB's coach at the moment, well it's 32 00:01:38,387 --> 00:01:39,987 Speaker 3: worth a look from my perspective. 33 00:01:39,987 --> 00:01:42,827 Speaker 2: Anyway, did those make headlines over there? It was huge 34 00:01:42,827 --> 00:01:46,227 Speaker 2: news over here? Did it sort of make headlines over 35 00:01:46,267 --> 00:01:46,907 Speaker 2: your side? 36 00:01:47,707 --> 00:01:51,227 Speaker 3: Yeah, not huge headlines. It's more about the Wallabies. But 37 00:01:51,267 --> 00:01:54,107 Speaker 3: it certainly came up in the last couple of days. 38 00:01:54,147 --> 00:01:57,627 Speaker 3: Obviously not to the degree over there because it's so 39 00:01:58,507 --> 00:02:00,747 Speaker 3: all black like, which I'm sure more than a few 40 00:02:01,227 --> 00:02:04,747 Speaker 3: people have mentioned over there that a coaching team midstream 41 00:02:04,947 --> 00:02:08,227 Speaker 3: breaks up kind of weird and you don't hear of 42 00:02:08,307 --> 00:02:12,227 Speaker 3: it that often anywhere, and rugby, especially not with New Zealand. 43 00:02:12,347 --> 00:02:15,267 Speaker 3: But yeah, caused a few ripples and that's where the 44 00:02:15,267 --> 00:02:17,787 Speaker 3: idea came up that maybe Joe Smith putting two and 45 00:02:17,787 --> 00:02:20,067 Speaker 3: two together, maybe we're getting five so that he might 46 00:02:20,107 --> 00:02:20,667 Speaker 3: reach out to it. 47 00:02:21,187 --> 00:02:23,867 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an open market, that's for sure. During the week, 48 00:02:23,947 --> 00:02:26,827 Speaker 2: South Sydney and Rooster Ziicon Ron Coot announced as Rugby 49 00:02:26,907 --> 00:02:30,347 Speaker 2: League's fourteenth Immortal one hundred and forty eight premiership games 50 00:02:30,347 --> 00:02:32,747 Speaker 2: for South Sydney, hundred and nine for Eastern Suburbs. He 51 00:02:32,827 --> 00:02:36,187 Speaker 2: won four Grand Finals with South and two with Eastern Suburbs. 52 00:02:36,227 --> 00:02:39,147 Speaker 2: Was he a popular choice as the fourteenth a mortal? 53 00:02:40,267 --> 00:02:43,227 Speaker 3: Yeah, very because he's obviously getting on of it. Ron. 54 00:02:43,267 --> 00:02:45,667 Speaker 3: He's now eighty and he's had a few cracks at 55 00:02:45,747 --> 00:02:49,427 Speaker 3: possibly getting in and this award goes back to nine 56 00:02:49,387 --> 00:02:52,227 Speaker 3: point eighty one they constructed it. He's the fourteenth, so 57 00:02:52,307 --> 00:02:54,587 Speaker 3: they don't let him in every year, but you know, 58 00:02:54,667 --> 00:02:56,787 Speaker 3: they elevate who they see fit and had a good 59 00:02:56,827 --> 00:03:01,227 Speaker 3: look at who absolutely deserves it, and there's no one 60 00:03:01,307 --> 00:03:04,427 Speaker 3: since the other night, since Wednesday night saying that this 61 00:03:04,467 --> 00:03:06,467 Speaker 3: guy doesn't deserve it. It was just a matter of 62 00:03:07,027 --> 00:03:09,307 Speaker 3: where he placed, who he was up against when other 63 00:03:09,347 --> 00:03:11,947 Speaker 3: people got inducted. And I think they've had a bit 64 00:03:11,947 --> 00:03:13,867 Speaker 3: of a turnover in the judging panel, and I think 65 00:03:14,067 --> 00:03:15,827 Speaker 3: some fresh eyes have looked at it and gone, well, 66 00:03:16,547 --> 00:03:18,547 Speaker 3: this guy, what he's done. You mentioned your CV there, 67 00:03:18,667 --> 00:03:22,627 Speaker 3: what he's done in the game, good human being. Everyone 68 00:03:22,667 --> 00:03:24,787 Speaker 3: has a good word to say about him. It made 69 00:03:24,827 --> 00:03:26,787 Speaker 3: sense on so many levels. So yeah, a lot of 70 00:03:26,827 --> 00:03:28,147 Speaker 3: people have for it and have you throw him on 71 00:03:28,227 --> 00:03:29,467 Speaker 3: Wednesday night, So. 72 00:03:29,587 --> 00:03:32,307 Speaker 2: They don't induct somebody every year. It's just as and 73 00:03:32,387 --> 00:03:34,707 Speaker 2: when they see that it's suitable. 74 00:03:35,907 --> 00:03:39,987 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think now the debate is how they 75 00:03:40,027 --> 00:03:43,227 Speaker 3: set some parameters around who's eligible when you should be 76 00:03:43,307 --> 00:03:46,707 Speaker 3: up for it. I personally think with because they go 77 00:03:46,827 --> 00:03:49,587 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame and then Immortal, which is the kind 78 00:03:49,627 --> 00:03:53,467 Speaker 3: of you know, the highest accolade you can get. But 79 00:03:53,547 --> 00:03:56,827 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame is still pretty good. I personally think 80 00:03:58,187 --> 00:04:01,707 Speaker 3: ten years if you're Hall of Fame to be becoming 81 00:04:01,747 --> 00:04:05,467 Speaker 3: an immortal, it's at least five years, ten years a 82 00:04:05,467 --> 00:04:08,027 Speaker 3: wait because going up Cameron Smith as a possible as 83 00:04:08,347 --> 00:04:11,187 Speaker 3: an immortal, but I think it was the first year 84 00:04:11,307 --> 00:04:14,307 Speaker 3: he was eligible for the Hall of Fame, so it's 85 00:04:14,347 --> 00:04:17,507 Speaker 3: like I was jumping ahead and yes, he's definitely going 86 00:04:17,547 --> 00:04:19,987 Speaker 3: to become an immortal one day, but I don't know. 87 00:04:20,067 --> 00:04:22,507 Speaker 3: I'd like to see them maybe go every two or 88 00:04:22,507 --> 00:04:24,787 Speaker 3: three years is going to be an immortal, and you 89 00:04:24,867 --> 00:04:27,147 Speaker 3: have to have a ten year split from when you 90 00:04:27,147 --> 00:04:29,267 Speaker 3: stop playing or when you get into the Hall of Fame, 91 00:04:29,307 --> 00:04:31,707 Speaker 3: so when you become an immortal, but you know it's 92 00:04:31,707 --> 00:04:34,147 Speaker 3: by the bye, they're going to be people overlooked all 93 00:04:34,187 --> 00:04:36,467 Speaker 3: the time, and people up for debate that should be 94 00:04:36,507 --> 00:04:39,347 Speaker 3: there shouldn't be there. So yeah, it's a hard. 95 00:04:39,107 --> 00:04:43,107 Speaker 2: One indeed, and we're reaching the business end. In fact, 96 00:04:43,147 --> 00:04:46,027 Speaker 2: we're at the very end of the regular season in AFL, 97 00:04:46,067 --> 00:04:48,747 Speaker 2: so obviously everyone in Victoria will be all over this 98 00:04:48,827 --> 00:04:50,867 Speaker 2: and others around the place too. I made of mine 99 00:04:50,907 --> 00:04:53,907 Speaker 2: who actually lives in Melbourne, is a Sydney Swans fan, Adham, 100 00:04:53,907 --> 00:04:55,707 Speaker 2: and I spoke to him yesterday on message. I said 101 00:04:55,947 --> 00:04:57,867 Speaker 2: Swan's going to win it all and he said, we're 102 00:04:57,867 --> 00:04:59,947 Speaker 2: on fire in the first half of the season, clearly 103 00:04:59,987 --> 00:05:02,307 Speaker 2: ahead of the rest, but a falling the way lately. 104 00:05:02,867 --> 00:05:04,347 Speaker 2: If they can play at their best, then they'll go 105 00:05:04,387 --> 00:05:05,987 Speaker 2: all the way. But I'm not that confident at the moment. 106 00:05:06,027 --> 00:05:08,387 Speaker 2: They've too early. But like us, when we get together 107 00:05:08,387 --> 00:05:11,267 Speaker 2: for a beer, so does that handlight that does that 108 00:05:11,467 --> 00:05:15,787 Speaker 2: hand like the Sidney Swans. Has he summed it up well, he. 109 00:05:15,827 --> 00:05:19,827 Speaker 3: Summed it up very well for us at middle age. Yeah, yeah, 110 00:05:20,987 --> 00:05:23,827 Speaker 3: they did definitely had a like a three quarter season 111 00:05:23,867 --> 00:05:25,947 Speaker 3: dip where they just I mean they went to Adelaide 112 00:05:25,987 --> 00:05:28,707 Speaker 3: one night and got absolutely pummeled by Port Adelaide who 113 00:05:28,987 --> 00:05:30,547 Speaker 3: an hour on a bit of a run. They're probably 114 00:05:30,547 --> 00:05:33,387 Speaker 3: the form team going into the finals. Port Adelaide exciting 115 00:05:33,467 --> 00:05:36,627 Speaker 3: last weekend because yeah, the Swan should still finish top. 116 00:05:36,707 --> 00:05:39,147 Speaker 3: Something disastrous that have to happen for them to miss 117 00:05:39,147 --> 00:05:42,267 Speaker 3: out on that. But positions two, three to ten are 118 00:05:42,307 --> 00:05:45,307 Speaker 3: still open for debate. Collingwood can't make the finals after 119 00:05:45,387 --> 00:05:48,547 Speaker 3: last night. Now they won but not well enough. Freemantle 120 00:05:48,587 --> 00:05:50,627 Speaker 3: in the last game of the weekend can jump into 121 00:05:50,627 --> 00:05:53,307 Speaker 3: the eighth. But yeah, the form lines going in. Port 122 00:05:53,347 --> 00:05:56,187 Speaker 3: Adelaide are probably the best team. But Sydney on their 123 00:05:56,227 --> 00:05:59,107 Speaker 3: day are the best team because you may right, they 124 00:05:59,107 --> 00:06:01,667 Speaker 3: were dynamic in the first part and they just it 125 00:06:01,707 --> 00:06:06,067 Speaker 3: was really weird. I think they've turned the corner. But yeah, 126 00:06:06,067 --> 00:06:08,267 Speaker 3: they're game tonight against Adelaide, who are going to miss 127 00:06:08,267 --> 00:06:10,147 Speaker 3: the finals, will tell a lot about what they're going 128 00:06:10,227 --> 00:06:12,627 Speaker 3: to do in the finals. But the one big thing 129 00:06:12,707 --> 00:06:15,867 Speaker 3: is Piney that you got the massive chance of a 130 00:06:15,947 --> 00:06:22,347 Speaker 3: non victorian all the non Victorian Grand Final. The top 131 00:06:22,387 --> 00:06:25,907 Speaker 3: four part, Geelong should get into the top possibly get 132 00:06:25,947 --> 00:06:29,387 Speaker 3: into the top four, top fours, non victorian. So there's 133 00:06:29,427 --> 00:06:31,187 Speaker 3: not gonna be a lot of finals game in Melbourne, 134 00:06:31,267 --> 00:06:31,667 Speaker 3: which is. 135 00:06:31,627 --> 00:06:34,667 Speaker 2: Interesting, very interesting. Yeah, they won't like it. I won't 136 00:06:34,707 --> 00:06:37,067 Speaker 2: like it down there. Good to chat as always, mate, 137 00:06:37,067 --> 00:06:39,467 Speaker 2: thanks for taking the time. We'll catch up again next Saturday. 138 00:06:40,667 --> 00:06:41,587 Speaker 3: That's good, Thanks Manne. 139 00:06:41,867 --> 00:06:45,267 Speaker 2: Thanks mate. Adam Peacock our regular Australian correspondent here on 140 00:06:45,347 --> 00:06:46,267 Speaker 2: Saturday afternoons. 141 00:06:46,827 --> 00:06:50,027 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live 142 00:06:50,147 --> 00:06:53,547 Speaker 1: to news Talk ZB weekends from midday or follow the 143 00:06:53,547 --> 00:06:55,067 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio