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Speaker 3: Well, good morning to you and welcome to your Monday,

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Speaker 3: luck and this is my final stint on Early Edition.

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Speaker 3: Lines back tomorrow on today's program. A new documentary on

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Speaker 3: the case of Philip Pokinghorn hit our screens this weekend

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Speaker 3: Philip Pokinghorn's reaction to it. Andrew Ordison covers Sport in

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Speaker 3: ten minutes and we'll try not to talk about the Warriors.

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Speaker 3: just before six. We're talking to Gavin Gray out of

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Speaker 1: The agenda.

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Speaker 3: It's Monday, the fourteenth of April. Ukraine's State emergency services.

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Speaker 3: At least thirty four people have been killed in Russian

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Speaker 3: strikes on the city of Sumi. Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky

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Speaker 3: is accusing Putin of ignoring the USC's fire proposal, and

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Speaker 3: the strike comes after US Envoy Steve Wikoff met Russian

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Speaker 3: President Vladimir Putin on Friday to discuss a Ukrainian peace element.

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Speaker 4: There is still no agreement between Kiev and Washington over

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Speaker 4: Ukraine in exchange for continued military help. That deal is

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Speaker 4: no closer. Russia is continuing to whole firm on its

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Speaker 4: demands of the complete occupation of four Ukrainian provinces and

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Speaker 4: the political capitulation of Ukraine. And so if you are

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the United States has decided to exempt some electronics

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Speaker 3: like smartphones and computers from Trump's reciprocal tariffs. It includes

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Speaker 3: the one hundred and twenty five percent text on good

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Speaker 3: tech companies that the price of devices could skyrocket because

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Speaker 3: many of them are made in China.

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Speaker 5: The total effective terriff breed on these exempted products, as

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Speaker 5: best as we can tell, is now back to about

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Speaker 5: twenty percent, So we're taking those reciprocal tariffs off. But

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Speaker 5: you know, it has been a very confusing week. You know,

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Speaker 5: these exemptions are going to affect companies like Nvidia and Dell,

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Speaker 3: And tens of thousands of festival goers braced the sweltering

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Speaker 3: night headliner was Lady Gaga, as choreographed by our very

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Speaker 3: own Paris Goobles. She delighted the crowds with many of

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Speaker 3: her top hits. But the performance everyone's talking about is

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Speaker 3: from Benson Boom, who brought out Brian May from Queen

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Speaker 3: to perform in Bohemian rapsody. Oh yes, doctor Brian May

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Speaker 3: sounding excellent, And you've got to say Benson Boom has

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Speaker 3: a great set of pipes.

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Speaker 1: The first word on the News of the Day early

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Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof make your property

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Speaker 1: search simple.

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Speaker 3: You talk sippy, it's stimulus for five. So wisdom Peters, wister.

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Speaker 3: Peters is a different person depending on where, when and

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Speaker 3: why you are talking to him. On the election trail.

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Speaker 3: He's anti immigration, he's anti globalism. He's a conservative populist.

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Speaker 3: But as Foreign Minister, he knows where our bread is buttered.

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Speaker 3: We are dependent on free trade and open borders to

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Speaker 3: The government wants to change up our driver's licensing system.

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Speaker 3: Youth Talk, said b as a sixteen minutes out of five.

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Speaker 3: So last night the new documentary on the poking Horn

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Speaker 6: For thirty odd years, I have been watching wealthy their control.

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Speaker 7: Women, but it usually doesn't end in dead.

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Speaker 1: Evidence is missing, But it didn't make sease.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking, his story keeps changing, very very odd.

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Speaker 3: All right, Yes, The documentary received two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 3: follows the eight week trial of Philip Pokinghorn, who was

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Speaker 3: Man telling a scrum of reporters to let Pauline rest

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Speaker 3: It's a good watch. I have to say, why make it?

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Speaker 6: I think it's important to make these stories so that

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, that's often the way that documentaries can do

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Speaker 3: Especially because the interview with Pokinghorn happened nineteen months before

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Speaker 2: That was his life.

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Speaker 6: We're only telling his life as he tells us in

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Speaker 3: News Talks B. I'm Andrew Dickins, five twenty seven. So

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Speaker 3: there was a letter to the editor of the Weekend

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Speaker 3: very good point. The writer remarked that the harbor Bridge

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Speaker 3: we didn't move the sugar industry in the fifties, but

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Speaker 3: Right, Peter's wrong lucks and right, lots of reaction to that.

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Speaker 3: No good on it to you. Welcome to your Monday.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for choosing us. My last and on early edition.

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Speaker 3: Ryan is back tomorrow. He's taking a long weekend. Heather

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Speaker 3: you know Winster Peter's was right. Textas says no, Peter's wrong,

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Speaker 3: Lux and right. It's a succinct little text, Gary says Andrew.

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Speaker 11: For a start, but some heavy rain develops around midday

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Speaker 3: Christi as we go clear sure, we're good morning to you.

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Speaker 8: That's the one record to the other. Well, we've had

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Speaker 12: Story leading the post this morning. As Tom Hunter reports,

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Speaker 12: One of the mayor's first acts in the job was,

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Speaker 12: as you say, a bid to persuade auckland Is to

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Speaker 12: move to the capital. This has come out via official documents.

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Speaker 12: Wellington and Z were commissioned to put an ad together

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Speaker 12: that ran in the New Zealand Herald Kyoto Tamakimikoto. It read,

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Speaker 12: we understand a few of you maybe considering your career options.

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Speaker 12: Just a note from us in te Funganuiatada. We're looking

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Speaker 12: out for talented creative people to help grow our hero

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Speaker 12: as capital, signed toriy Fano. Needless to say, it was

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Speaker 12: a bit of a bomb. Twelve emails in response in total.

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Speaker 12: It doesn't look like anyone took up the offer, only

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Speaker 12: as Wellington and Z says positive consideration of working in Wellington.

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Speaker 12: A counselor who sits on the Wellington and Z board

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Speaker 12: concedes it was a failure.

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Speaker 3: Maybe people just didn't understand Tory. Now, how's Wellington's weather?

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Speaker 12: It should be fine today, cloudy high of nineteen All.

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Speaker 3: Right to walkome we go neve rid to man who Hello,

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Speaker 3: greetings so augand transport at love them. They're replacing trains

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Speaker 3: with buses for most of the rest of the month.

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Speaker 3: That is right.

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Speaker 7: So what's happening is we've got the upgrades renewal projects

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Speaker 7: happening right across the network here taking place for the

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Speaker 7: next fortnight. Now this is to prepare services of obviously

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Speaker 7: for next year's City rail Link opening and previous closures

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Speaker 7: some customers they complained about, remember that the lack of capacity.

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Speaker 7: The bus is going the wrong way and not turning

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Speaker 7: up on time. So fingers cross it. That will happen.

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Speaker 7: You know, everything will be okay. AT did say that

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Speaker 7: they're going to be monitoring the situation every day. Also,

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Speaker 7: Andrew Auckland transport hiking parking prices by fifty cents an

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Speaker 7: hour that comes in from today. AT says that the

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Speaker 7: costs to maintain and service it network is increasing.

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Speaker 3: So the ever, I've always thought that Auckland one day

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Speaker 3: might be good if they ever finish it. Keep praying

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Speaker 3: for that one has. Aukcan's weather partly cloudy.

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Speaker 7: We've got the odd shower north of Harburbridge. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 7: high the high today guess twenty one, twenty four, Oh

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Speaker 7: my lord, twenty.

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Speaker 3: Four made April okay, thank you so much. Now overseas

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Speaker 3: and a new CBS poll shows Americans views of the

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Speaker 3: economy are still sour. Most say the President Trump has

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Speaker 3: focused too much on tariffs, which they believe will end

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Speaker 3: is by far their biggest concern. So the whole tariff

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Speaker 3: thing runs country to that. It's all balanced out for

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Speaker 3: mister Trump today by continued majority approval on his immigration

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Speaker 3: stance and also his deportation program that comes especially, but

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Speaker 3: not exclusively, from his Republican base, many who say that's

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Speaker 3: just as important as the economy in their evaluations. That's

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Speaker 3: on a CBS poll. We're going to talk overseas in

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Speaker 3: just a few moments time with Gavin Gray from the

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Speaker 3: Devin Gray, Good morning, Hi Andrew. So there's been allegations

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Speaker 3: that Russians have put sensors all around Great Britain in

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Speaker 3: an attempt to track UK nuclear submarines. Now, what can

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Speaker 3: you tell me about this story?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this was a story out of the Sunday

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Speaker 2: Times in which it was reported that British military discovered

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Speaker 2: the existence of these devices and deemed them a potential

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Speaker 2: threat to national security. It is believed that, if these

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Speaker 2: stories correct, these devices have been planted by Moscow in

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Speaker 2: order to try to gather intelligence on the UK's nuclear

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Speaker 2: defense or nuclear capabilities. They are based on four Vanguard

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Speaker 2: submarines which carry these nuclear missiles. Now, if this is true,

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Speaker 2: then of course it would be deeply worrying if somebody

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Speaker 2: knows precisely where they are. The devices have been characterized

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Speaker 2: incidentally that effectively they could well be part of what's

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Speaker 2: called a hybrid or gray zone war that Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 2: might be plotting, in other words, doing damage to infrastructure

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Speaker 2: assets as well, like energy pipelines could be being mapped. So,

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Speaker 2: in an interview with the Russian ambassador to the UK today,

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Speaker 2: he was asked straight up, has this been happening? Have

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Speaker 2: you been tracking British submarines And he said, well, I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to deny it, but I wonder they really

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Speaker 2: have an interest in following the British submarines because they're

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Speaker 2: very old, outdated nuclear warheads and these threats are extremely exaggerated,

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Speaker 2: and then said Russia poses no threat to the UK. Well,

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Speaker 2: I'm afraid at the moment that isn't the UK's assessment

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Speaker 2: of the relationship with Russia.

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Speaker 3: All Right, to Scotland we go, and they're having a

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Speaker 3: very fies go much like New Zealand.

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Speaker 2: I gather that you two have had this perhaps the

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Speaker 2: same people have been advising one another. This is about

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Speaker 2: the daily journey on a ferry from the mainland of

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Speaker 2: Scotland mainland of the UK to the Isle of Aaron. Now,

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Speaker 2: believe it or not, these ferries were replacing a thirty

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Speaker 2: year old service, a thirty year old ferry that was

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Speaker 2: really getting out of date and becoming unreliable. So they

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Speaker 2: ordered them and they were supposed to come into service

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Speaker 2: in twenty seventeen. Only one has so far come into service,

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Speaker 2: in other words, seven years late. The other still isn't ready.

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Speaker 2: The original cost was two hundred million New Zealand dollars.

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Speaker 2: It's now eight hundred million New Zealand dollars. And wait

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Speaker 2: for it, they're too big to fit in the port

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Speaker 2: that they were supposed to dock at on the island.

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Speaker 2: You couldn't make it up if you tried. In the meantime,

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Speaker 2: it looks like they're going to divert the services to

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Speaker 2: the coastal town or Truon, famous for golf. But guess

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Speaker 2: what it now looks like. The Scottish government, in one

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Speaker 2: of the big mismanagements ever I think, is now thinking

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Speaker 2: it might buy the original port that is too small

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Speaker 2: for the boats and upgraded with a rough one hundred

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Speaker 2: and seventy pound investment. Honestly, Andrew, you couldn't make it up.

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Speaker 3: Yes you can. It's exactly the same as here we

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Speaker 3: bought two ferries there were too big, we couldn't afford

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Speaker 3: to do the port work. And yeah you can, right, Gavin,

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Speaker 3: and I thank you so much. Gavin Gray out of

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Speaker 3: the UK. It's now nine minutes to six federal digginous

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Speaker 3: right oh. The government wants to change up our driver's

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Speaker 3: licensing system, as looking at a new proposal to new

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Speaker 3: drivers will only have to take one practical test instead

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Speaker 3: of two. Restricted drivers with defensive driving and clean records

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Speaker 3: will automatically gain their full after twelve months. There's a

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Speaker 3: bunch of conditions, including halving the number of demerit points,

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Speaker 3: and there'll be a zero percent alcohol breath limit regardless

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Speaker 3: of their age. So AA Road Safety spokesperson Dylan Thompson

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Speaker 3: joins me, Now, good morning to you, Dylan.

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Speaker 9: Good morning.

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Speaker 3: So this is good because it's cheaper, but it's bad

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Speaker 3: because they get spend less time supervised driving.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think I'd say it's good in that the

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Speaker 9: government is actually looking at making some significant changes and

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Speaker 9: we're right on board with zero alcohol limit and more

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Speaker 9: consequences for learner or restricted drivers breaking the rules. I

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Speaker 9: think the way I put it is, we think it

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Speaker 9: could be better if we looked to also make some

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Speaker 9: changes that require learners to do a lot more practice

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Speaker 9: and preparation and training than we currently do in New Zealand.

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Speaker 9: So if we look overseas, a lot of the countries

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Speaker 9: it has systems like this with just one on road test.

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Speaker 9: They have a minimum number of hours of practice and

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Speaker 9: incentives for people to do professional lessons and driving courses.

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Speaker 3: Now, Chris Bishop actually talked about an app, an app

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Speaker 3: to be your supervised driver. Do you trust that?

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Speaker 9: Well, no, it's not an app to be your supervised driver.

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Speaker 9: But a lot of an Australian states. What they have

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Speaker 9: is when you're a learner, you can have an app

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Speaker 9: that records all your practice hours of driving. And what

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Speaker 9: that will do is if you're the supervising driver with

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Speaker 9: that person, so that might be mum or dad or

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Speaker 9: a grandparent or a friend full license, you get a

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Speaker 9: message saying this person says they're about to do a

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Speaker 9: practice drive with you. Is that true? You say yes.

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Speaker 9: Then the app records the time, the distance and everything

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Speaker 9: like that to make it easier.

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Speaker 3: Fascinating. Will this make it cheap? But will it reduce

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Speaker 3: the backlog?

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Speaker 9: Well, if we had only one test, it would definitely

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Speaker 9: reduce costs and would mean that you know, there was

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Speaker 9: more capacity in the system for focusing on that the

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Speaker 9: restricted test if we if we saw this change. But

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Speaker 9: I think that that key thing has really got to

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Speaker 9: be focused on safety and are we doing things that

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Speaker 9: are actually going to reduce a really high crash or

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Speaker 9: a rate amongst young people in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: Well, Dylan good only, thank you for joining us. Dylan

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Speaker 3: is the AA Road Safety spokesperson and this is News

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Speaker 3: Talks here b It is seven to six.

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Speaker 1: The news this morning and the in depth Analysis early

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Speaker 1: edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make Your Property

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Speaker 3: Now on the on trust of the media. Bruce is angry.

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Speaker 3: He says, in a country of great marathon runners, where

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Speaker 3: was the news in your report about the christ Church Marathon?

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Speaker 3: Who were the winners? What were the times? Good point?

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Speaker 3: We reported that it was a record field of sevenenty fifteen,

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Speaker 3: but the winners were Oscar Inkster Banes and two hours

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Speaker 3: and twenty minutes and twenty seconds and ingod Cree in

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Speaker 3: two hours forty six thirty. And the thing about Oscar,

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Speaker 3: he is thirty three years old, first person to win

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Speaker 3: every christ Church Marathon event distance that's the ten k,

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Speaker 3: the half marathon and the full marathon. And he's done

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Speaker 3: that twice. So there you go, Bruce, Mike Hoskin, good

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Speaker 3: morning to you, very good morning.

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Speaker 13: That's exciting prime ministers in this morning they read about

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Speaker 13: the Winston Peters. Is Winston Peter's attacking the prime minister.

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Speaker 3: I think he is?

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Speaker 4: Is?

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Speaker 3: He yes, he is.

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Speaker 13: I just wanted if it's a bit more broad based

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Speaker 13: than that, like he's attacking people generally about you know,

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Speaker 13: getting hysterical.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think, and this is what told Thomas says

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Speaker 3: as well, that you know he's about to come the

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Speaker 3: dep He's got eighteen months to the next election. He's

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Speaker 3: now going to be very much New Zealand first, rather

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Speaker 3: than the foreign minister.

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Speaker 13: For all, I suppose I suppose that was always going

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Speaker 13: to happen, wasn't it. Yeah, we're talk He's not tamed,

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Speaker 13: that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: No, that is true.

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Speaker 13: And tod eighty years old, fantastic. You know, I got

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Speaker 13: insight into groceries this morning. We seem to have that

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Speaker 13: under control cost of living. We'll talk about that trust

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Speaker 13: and that trust in the media thing that's as dodgy

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Speaker 13: as well. Think about first of well, you got a

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Speaker 13: thousand people, right, and fifty six as the most I

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Speaker 13: think was about sixty percent dipped into a couple of

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Speaker 13: the bigger players in the market. So if you've only

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Speaker 13: got six out of ten to start with, by the

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Speaker 13: time you get down to the tiny players, the number

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Speaker 13: of people who actually used it would be infinitesimally small.

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Speaker 13: So how to you know, are these numbers even you

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Speaker 13: know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: I know it's a vibe, it's a vibe. They don't.

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Speaker 3: And I'm getting texts they don't trust us, mat.

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Speaker 13: No, and they don't and and rightly side.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't trust. I don't trust, and

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Speaker 3: you don't trust. I don't trust. After them, oh I know.

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Speaker 3: Oh good, thank you so much. So I'm Andrew Becons.

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