1 00:00:07,173 --> 00:00:10,453 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast 2 00:00:10,613 --> 00:00:11,693 Speaker 1: from News Talks AB. 3 00:00:12,973 --> 00:00:17,293 Speaker 2: Who's Gonna Win? H How I wish I could tell 4 00:00:17,333 --> 00:00:20,533 Speaker 2: you from here in the heart of Washington, d C. 5 00:00:21,013 --> 00:00:25,173 Speaker 2: I am happy to be humble this morning. I really 6 00:00:25,253 --> 00:00:29,173 Speaker 2: think that anyone who says with supreme confidence or with 7 00:00:29,293 --> 00:00:32,493 Speaker 2: a sense of certainty that they know who the next 8 00:00:32,533 --> 00:00:35,613 Speaker 2: president of the US is going to be is honestly 9 00:00:36,133 --> 00:00:39,773 Speaker 2: just blagging. I don't think anyone knows. But it's interesting. 10 00:00:39,813 --> 00:00:43,053 Speaker 2: I have spent the last week on the road, so 11 00:00:43,173 --> 00:00:46,773 Speaker 2: I've been through parts of Arizona. I've been through Georgia, 12 00:00:46,973 --> 00:00:50,093 Speaker 2: New York, and DC. From a Donald Trump rally in 13 00:00:50,133 --> 00:00:53,293 Speaker 2: Atlanta to Kamala Harris's closing argument in front of the 14 00:00:53,333 --> 00:00:57,613 Speaker 2: White House. Now, I've spoken with African American voters backing 15 00:00:57,653 --> 00:01:01,253 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, new migrant voters voting for the first time, 16 00:01:01,333 --> 00:01:05,893 Speaker 2: abortion rights advocates, business owners, a cryptocurrency organizer, and a 17 00:01:05,893 --> 00:01:10,013 Speaker 2: professor constitutional law. And I think one of the consistent 18 00:01:10,093 --> 00:01:14,853 Speaker 2: qualities across all of those people is just how exhausted 19 00:01:15,213 --> 00:01:17,653 Speaker 2: people in the US are by the whole thing. They 20 00:01:17,693 --> 00:01:22,093 Speaker 2: are so ready for this race to be over. But 21 00:01:22,253 --> 00:01:24,573 Speaker 2: here is what I think could be the qualities that 22 00:01:24,773 --> 00:01:29,573 Speaker 2: ultimately define the contest. Number One I reckon this is 23 00:01:29,573 --> 00:01:32,853 Speaker 2: a massive one to watch. The gender divide. So at 24 00:01:32,893 --> 00:01:36,213 Speaker 2: the moment there is a sixteen or seventeen point difference 25 00:01:36,413 --> 00:01:40,693 Speaker 2: between male and female preferences in this election. More than 26 00:01:40,733 --> 00:01:43,253 Speaker 2: sixty million votes have already been cast, and given that 27 00:01:43,293 --> 00:01:45,813 Speaker 2: we still have a weekend here in the US before 28 00:01:45,853 --> 00:01:49,493 Speaker 2: election day, it seems very likely that more than half 29 00:01:49,533 --> 00:01:53,413 Speaker 2: of voters will cast ballots before Wednesday. And here's why 30 00:01:53,413 --> 00:01:57,693 Speaker 2: that's notable. Of the votes cast so far, women are 31 00:01:57,773 --> 00:02:01,013 Speaker 2: voting at much higher levels than men. It's about fifty 32 00:02:01,053 --> 00:02:03,293 Speaker 2: five percent of early votes have been cast by women, 33 00:02:03,373 --> 00:02:06,733 Speaker 2: forty five percent by men. Yeah, a married couple who 34 00:02:06,773 --> 00:02:10,173 Speaker 2: are really good friends of mine experience this firsthand. So 35 00:02:10,453 --> 00:02:14,333 Speaker 2: he loves Donald Trump. She absolutely loathes him. They can't 36 00:02:14,333 --> 00:02:17,213 Speaker 2: of just agree to mostly avoid talking politics at home, 37 00:02:17,293 --> 00:02:20,613 Speaker 2: but something similar must be playing out in tens of 38 00:02:20,693 --> 00:02:26,013 Speaker 2: thousands of American households. Donald Trump's strategy relies on turning 39 00:02:26,053 --> 00:02:30,493 Speaker 2: out heaps of young men, hence the bro podcasts that 40 00:02:30,533 --> 00:02:34,213 Speaker 2: he's been doing, Hence his attendance at UFC Fight Night, 41 00:02:34,453 --> 00:02:38,493 Speaker 2: The embracing of cryptocurrency and Elon Musk, and you'd have 42 00:02:38,533 --> 00:02:41,933 Speaker 2: to say it is a risky strategy in that young 43 00:02:42,013 --> 00:02:45,613 Speaker 2: men belong to the demographic that is most likely not 44 00:02:45,853 --> 00:02:49,413 Speaker 2: to vote. But look, I've been doing this long enough 45 00:02:49,573 --> 00:02:51,933 Speaker 2: to know that Donald Trump has made a real habit 46 00:02:52,173 --> 00:02:58,053 Speaker 2: of bucking conventional wisdom and politics. Number two, the economy 47 00:02:58,133 --> 00:03:01,493 Speaker 2: always factors in people's choices. But aside from that, and 48 00:03:01,493 --> 00:03:05,893 Speaker 2: aside from Donald Trump's character, there are two highly motivating 49 00:03:05,933 --> 00:03:10,133 Speaker 2: issues in the election. Number one is border security and immigration, 50 00:03:10,653 --> 00:03:13,533 Speaker 2: and number two is abortion access. If you go to 51 00:03:13,533 --> 00:03:16,133 Speaker 2: the rallies or you hear the candidates speak, Donald Trump 52 00:03:16,253 --> 00:03:22,453 Speaker 2: absolutely hammers the border issue. Similarly, Carmala Harris absolutely hammers 53 00:03:22,693 --> 00:03:26,013 Speaker 2: reproductive rights. Both of those figure that those are highly 54 00:03:26,213 --> 00:03:30,373 Speaker 2: motivating issues for their voter bases. And the third factor 55 00:03:30,413 --> 00:03:32,453 Speaker 2: that I think we should keep an eye on over 56 00:03:32,493 --> 00:03:33,973 Speaker 2: the next couple of days, or at the very least 57 00:03:34,013 --> 00:03:36,613 Speaker 2: keep in mind is the polls. Now. Look, I told 58 00:03:36,613 --> 00:03:38,773 Speaker 2: myself in twenty sixteen that I would not trust the 59 00:03:38,773 --> 00:03:41,013 Speaker 2: polls in the US. Again. I told myself in twenty 60 00:03:41,053 --> 00:03:43,133 Speaker 2: twenty that I would not trust the polls again, and 61 00:03:43,173 --> 00:03:46,933 Speaker 2: here we are the problem is that the polsters don't 62 00:03:47,013 --> 00:03:49,733 Speaker 2: release their modeling. So how do you account for Donald 63 00:03:49,773 --> 00:03:54,213 Speaker 2: Trump's support among young men if young men don't usually 64 00:03:54,293 --> 00:03:57,933 Speaker 2: vote in the same numbers as other demographics. If people 65 00:03:58,173 --> 00:04:00,693 Speaker 2: have mislead polsters in the past by telling them, yeah, 66 00:04:00,733 --> 00:04:03,573 Speaker 2: they were supporting Hillary Clinton or they were supporting Joe Biden, 67 00:04:03,733 --> 00:04:06,973 Speaker 2: when actually they were voting for Donald Trump, will they 68 00:04:07,013 --> 00:04:11,053 Speaker 2: do that again this year? Or has that sense of 69 00:04:11,293 --> 00:04:15,013 Speaker 2: embarrassment or shame or whatever it was with Donald Trump 70 00:04:15,093 --> 00:04:18,773 Speaker 2: in the past. Is that a phenomenon that no longer 71 00:04:18,813 --> 00:04:23,093 Speaker 2: exists Right now? Krmala Harris is doing worse in the 72 00:04:23,133 --> 00:04:25,413 Speaker 2: polls than Hillary Clinton was doing at the stage of 73 00:04:25,453 --> 00:04:27,333 Speaker 2: the race, worse than Joe Biden was doing at the 74 00:04:27,373 --> 00:04:30,653 Speaker 2: same point. But is there a chance that the polsters 75 00:04:30,693 --> 00:04:34,813 Speaker 2: have over corrected in their models. The election is this Wednesday, 76 00:04:34,933 --> 00:04:38,733 Speaker 2: New Zealand time, I reckon it is pretty unlikely that 77 00:04:38,773 --> 00:04:41,533 Speaker 2: we will have a definitive result on that day, and 78 00:04:41,613 --> 00:04:44,853 Speaker 2: it's going to take time before either Karmala Harris or 79 00:04:44,893 --> 00:04:49,133 Speaker 2: Donald Trump is officially the president elect. But regardless of 80 00:04:49,173 --> 00:04:52,973 Speaker 2: who wins, I think, sadly, having traveled around this country, 81 00:04:53,493 --> 00:04:56,613 Speaker 2: that the American electorate is going to remain is going 82 00:04:56,653 --> 00:04:59,653 Speaker 2: to remain Bitterly Divided. 83 00:05:00,533 --> 00:05:03,653 Speaker 1: For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live 84 00:05:03,733 --> 00:05:07,013 Speaker 1: to newstalks'd B from nine am Saturday, or follow the 85 00:05:07,053 --> 00:05:08,493 Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio