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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack team podcast

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Speaker 1: from News Talks AB joining us.

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Speaker 2: Now we have Kate Hall aka Ethically Kate.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, Kate, good morning, Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 2: And to you too. You're ready to go?

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep I am. We have pretty basic chill Christmas

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Speaker 3: with our families, so yep, I think I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: Well that's all. That's sort of the way it should be, really,

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Speaker 2: isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is all about it's more special the people

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Speaker 3: you spend it with. And yeah, a lot of us

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Speaker 3: will be together this Christmas who haven't been so good.

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Speaker 2: Oh that is wonderful to hear. And so today we're

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Speaker 2: going to talk about being sustainable on Christmas Day. And

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Speaker 2: you've got some tips for us. And I love the

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Speaker 2: first one because it comes with a certain amount of

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Speaker 2: presumption to it, So I love the first thing on

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Speaker 2: your list was bring reusable containers with you for food leftovers.

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Speaker 2: So just put them in your car, on your bag

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Speaker 2: and have them ready to go. But I love that

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Speaker 2: it's kind of like turning up mum cook's Mum's cooking

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Speaker 2: you mates. Either way, here to the leftovers that I'd

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Speaker 2: love to take time to have for Boxing Day.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Yeah, well, I mean there's that element, which

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Speaker 3: you know, it is probably coming from me as a

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Speaker 3: child who will spend part of Christmas Day at my

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Speaker 3: mum's house. Bus It's also I've realized that sometimes the

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Speaker 3: host doesn't have enough containers, you know, for all the

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Speaker 3: different things I've made, So I have even brought containers

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Speaker 3: with me and left them, you know, and just being helpful.

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Speaker 2: But you're coming from a much more generous place than

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 3: So I mean it's both. It's it's yeah, it's a mixture.

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Speaker 3: But you know, often when you leave, people go, oh,

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Speaker 3: take this with you. Because we're talking about food based

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Speaker 3: here too, right that. I mean, there's so much food

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Speaker 3: and one household. Everyone gathers together in one centralized place. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: how is that food going to continue to be eaten

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Speaker 3: when there are leftovers? Which is you know, it's such

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Speaker 3: a privilege to have leftovers and to have all this

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Speaker 3: bounty of food on Christmas Day, But how can we

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Speaker 3: make sure that it doesn't just kind of rot in

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Speaker 3: the back of someone's fridge. But you can distribute it

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Speaker 3: to people or even there's some local like soup kitchens

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Speaker 3: and community kitchens. Who could really do with that food.

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Speaker 3: So bring your reasonable containers and your handbag. You're bable

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Speaker 3: all the presence or food that you're bringing to the

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Speaker 3: to the house who's hosting is just such a such

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Speaker 3: a key one of containers always come in handy.

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Speaker 2: Well these days, you know, I very rarely go somewhere

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Speaker 2: where I'm not contributing something. You know, we don't sort

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Speaker 2: of you don't turn up at someone's house these days

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Speaker 2: and expect them to They've done everything. We're all everyone's

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Speaker 2: aware of the cost of living, and we're all contributing.

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Speaker 2: And I think, actually, to be honest with you, Cake,

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Speaker 2: I think I do this really well. I do turn

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Speaker 2: up with what I'm contributing in a container, which just

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Speaker 2: happens to be perfect. When the host of the NC is, yeah,

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Speaker 2: look do you want to take this home? Can you

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Speaker 2: put it in your container? I go, oh, great, there we.

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Speaker 3: Go exactly, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: So often we have those on us. A lot of

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Speaker 2: people are traveling of col at this time of the

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Speaker 2: year as well.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so obviously with transport, I know it's not feasible

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Speaker 3: for everyone. You know, if you're if you have a

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Speaker 3: fifty kilometer journey to get to your family on Christmas Day,

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Speaker 3: that might be a little bit too far of a

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Speaker 3: bike ride, but considering there's so many different ways that

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Speaker 3: we can do our transport a little bit more sustainably,

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Speaker 3: and that just involves a little bit more thought and

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Speaker 3: perhaps communication with other people who are also traveling, so

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Speaker 3: car pooling, considering best routes to take so that you're

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Speaker 3: driving less kilometers. You know, general general things like making

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Speaker 3: sure your hires are pumped up, that your car is

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Speaker 3: like I am out live on the Hibiscus Coast and

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Speaker 3: am pretty close to most of my family stops and

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Speaker 3: places we have to go doing things like biking or yeah,

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Speaker 3: asking if you have spare seats in your car, letting

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Speaker 2: I've got a teenager. I've got two teenagers, Kate and

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Speaker 2: the older one has his license and a car and

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Speaker 2: things and still living at home. And it's always like

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Speaker 2: I'll just see you there, I'll meet you there. It's like, no, no,

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Speaker 2: we're going as a family to this event. We can

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Speaker 3: But it's this hardy and.

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Speaker 2: I'll get them myself. And you're kind of going, Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's try and think about this a little bit. In

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Speaker 2: a bit, let's look at that picture here.

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Speaker 3: And it's also I think sometimes you know, I'm coming

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Speaker 3: at it obviously from an environmental point of view to

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Speaker 3: use less petrol, but actually pet will cost money, so

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Speaker 3: it is good to crumbt it from a saving point

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Speaker 3: of view too, that actually you can save by doing

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Speaker 3: right bad environment.

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Speaker 2: Now, the wrapping papers is an interesting one. I've done

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Speaker 2: numerous different things over the year, Kate. Over the years,

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Speaker 2: I've used tea to wrap presents so that the tea

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Speaker 2: towel is also a present. A great tip if you're

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Speaker 2: if you've got a if you've got a kid at

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Speaker 2: kindy right now, you might have a stack of paintings

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Speaker 2: that your your child did at kindy, which fifty is

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Speaker 2: pretty much the same thing on quite a large piece

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Speaker 2: of paper, and one year I think they wrapped. I

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Speaker 2: think I use those to wrap all my Christmas presents,

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Speaker 2: which can be quite a useful way of passing on

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Speaker 2: a piece of hard Yeah, but we do, we do

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Speaker 2: use a lot of wrapping paper, don't we live done? Ye?

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Speaker 3: We do we do. And honestly, in my adult life,

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Speaker 3: I have never purchased wrapping paper. So it is absolutely

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Speaker 3: just like the examples you've said, even second hand scarves

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Speaker 3: from top shops, things like that. You know, the brown

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Speaker 3: paper bags that you've gathered far too many of because

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Speaker 3: you've forgot your user bags at grocery stores. You can

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Speaker 3: cut those up and turn them into really clever wrapping ideas.

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Speaker 3: But also, and my nieces know that sub missing at Christmas,

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Speaker 3: they make little a little pile for anti case of

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Speaker 3: put in a pile. They know that it's going to

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Speaker 3: be reused. So you know, I know, it's only a

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Speaker 3: few days until Christmas, and so perhaps going out and

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Speaker 3: getting some more to yoursels or sucking hand scars isn't feasible.

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Speaker 3: So actually thinking about the wrapping paper that already does exist.

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Speaker 3: It's already there, so how can we salvage it for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, if you happen to get brown those brown

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Speaker 2: on them in, paint on them or something, Yeah, tie

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Speaker 2: them up. Yeah, that's a good idea.

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Speaker 3: Or if you don't have kids, just you know, paint yourself,

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Speaker 3: paint on them and see yeah bridging.

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Speaker 2: Yah ays good to do the arts and crafts. You've

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Speaker 2: also got a suggestion about composting as well.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so I know a lot of people do composts,

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Speaker 3: which is great, but I think it is actually only

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Speaker 3: a home compost. So considering, especially if you aren't hosting,

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Speaker 3: are going. Considering again not being kind of the greenie

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Speaker 3: so you can actually take home those valuable scraps to

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Speaker 3: your to your chickens, to your home composts, so that

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Speaker 3: makes soil for your guard And I often will bring

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Speaker 3: a again, another container, just an asia container or sometimes

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Speaker 3: a jar is really good because it's air tight so

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Speaker 3: it can sit around for a while without producing any smells.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, thinking about where will food scraps go during

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Speaker 3: the day, and how can you best communicate that to

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Speaker 3: that's you know, it's a huge waste source, you know,

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Speaker 3: banana peels, strawberry tops and things like that. That we

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Speaker 3: can actually dive it from landfill, and that's really really

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Speaker 3: important to that we don't send it to landfill because

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Speaker 2: You're going to be loaded up on this bike. Kate. Finally, though,

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Speaker 2: attending events with intent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know, there's all these yeah, kind

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Speaker 3: of sustainable practical tips, But I think at the end

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Speaker 3: a Christmas gathering, and actually before you go, rather than

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Speaker 3: just you're rushing around, you're trying to remember those containers

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Speaker 3: that Kate told you to bring, the combus bucket and

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Speaker 3: stuff like that. Actually when you're on your bike, when

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Speaker 3: recommend I think this is part of sustainable living is

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Speaker 3: What questions can I ask? Who am I going to

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Speaker 3: make intentional time to talk to it? This gathering, I

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Speaker 3: think is just huge at any point that I think

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Speaker 3: now more than ever, I think a lot of people

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Speaker 3: going to be a much more enjoyable, connective time to everyone.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what you've just I just feel completely

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Speaker 2: relaxed after listen to you talk me in Kate. It's

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Speaker 2: really sort of just this effect on me and adicts

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Speaker 2: has gone, oh yeah, this is something to enjoy. We're

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Speaker 2: all going to you know, we're all going to get

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Speaker 2: together and have this beautiful time together. Hey, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much. Have a lovely, lovely Christmas.

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Speaker 3: You too.

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Speaker 2: That was Kate Hall there you can find her at Ethicley. Kate,

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Speaker 2: I did I completely relax. Only that I want said,

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Speaker 2: that's so true. Stop the rushing around, stop the list

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Speaker 2: stop everything, and this is going to be a really

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Speaker 2: lovely time of the year with the people that you

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Speaker 2: love most, and really it's as simple as that.

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