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Speaker 1: So more insight into working parents and whether they should

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Speaker 1: be entitled to more sickly. So, Frog Recruitment has polled

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Speaker 1: more than seventeen hundred office workers, nine hundred and sixty

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Speaker 1: nine of which we're working parents. Now found that six

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five are coming to work sick because

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Speaker 1: they've run out of leave, and forty six percent of

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Speaker 1: parents are using their own sick leave to stay home

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Speaker 1: with an ill child. Now, Frog Recruitment Managing director Shannon

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Speaker 1: Barlow is with us. Shannon, very good morning to you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: It's the age old problem, isn't it. And the tricky

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Speaker 1: thing with the problem is what do you do do?

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Speaker 1: Do you just hand out more leave? What do you do?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think that businesses just need to be aware

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Speaker 2: of the impact and particularly with the incoming changes, that

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Speaker 2: some groups of people might be more affected than others.

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Speaker 2: So definitely working parents are more likely to use up

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Speaker 2: that quota of sick leave for just to be aware

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Speaker 2: of that. But I don't think that necessarily you need

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Speaker 2: to issue out more than the ten days, but to

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Speaker 2: really work together and to see something that's going to

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Speaker 2: work well for the people as well as for the

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Speaker 2: business as well.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting your numbers. Nine sixty nine were working parents.

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Speaker 1: Of that six hundred and twenty five, so let's say

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Speaker 1: two thirds were coming to work sick because they'd run

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Speaker 1: out of leave. So that's a lot of leave to

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Speaker 1: run out, because between yourself and your kids, ten days

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Speaker 1: is a not unreasonable amount, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. But what we saw there that a big

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Speaker 2: proportion were using their sick leave to care for kids,

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Speaker 2: so forty seven percent. So if their children were sack,

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Speaker 2: I think there were some worries that you know, worth

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Speaker 2: working from home people would take advantage of that and

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Speaker 2: they wouldn't really be working, and you know, they're spending

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Speaker 2: more time on caring. But that's obviously not happening. So

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Speaker 2: they're doing the right thing. They can be trusted. But

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Speaker 2: it does mean that it's going to eat into that

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Speaker 2: sick leave entitlement.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if the work from home things dissipated it

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Speaker 1: a little bit, given that you know, there will be

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Speaker 1: a number of people who can when they have to

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Speaker 1: work from home and it's no big deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, So I think I was really surprised to

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Speaker 2: see that the majority, so of that whole group, fifty

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Speaker 2: percent had only used from zero so no sick days

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Speaker 2: at all up to three sick days. So again we're

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Speaker 2: worried and increasing that entitlement double. No one's ever going

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Speaker 2: to be at work, but that's definitely not happening and

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Speaker 2: that's not being abused. So it is that minority that

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Speaker 2: eat through the whole ten days. But yeah, it's still

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Speaker 2: an isssue when you've got to be able to care

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Speaker 2: for your faro as well as yourself and make sure

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Speaker 2: that you're looking after yourself and the others around you

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Speaker 2: at work.

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Speaker 1: Stop Shannam, nice to talk to you. Shannon Balo, who's

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Speaker 1: the Frog Recruitment managing director with us this morning. For

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