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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp

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Speaker 1: from Uth talks it by helping you get those DIY

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Speaker 1: projects done right. The Resident Builder with Peter wolf Camp

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Speaker 1: call eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth talks It.

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Speaker 2: Be a house sizzle even when it's dark, even when

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Speaker 2: the grass is overgrown in the yard, even when a

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Speaker 3: Too old to bar, and when you're sitting at the

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Speaker 3: table trying not to starve, sissor home even when wavna,

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Speaker 3: even when you're there loone.

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Speaker 2: Houses a home, even when there's ghost even when you

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Speaker 2: got around from the what you love your most.

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Speaker 1: Scream doors, broken plaints, feel in.

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Speaker 2: Front of the wood, locals whisper when they're gonna leave

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Speaker 3: The house is a home even when wheelber.

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Speaker 1: Band go, even when.

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Speaker 3: You're there Lone, it's a home.

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Speaker 4: Well and very very good morning and welcome along to

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Speaker 4: the Resident Builder. On Sunday, it is twenty one minutes

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Speaker 4: after six. I didn't sleep in. No, that was far

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Speaker 4: too exciting a morning to sleep in. So if you've

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Speaker 4: tuned in and you're wondering where we went starting, why

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Speaker 4: kickoff for us wasn't at six o'clock. Well, of course

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Speaker 4: it was the All Blacks live from Murrayfield celebrate one

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Speaker 4: hundred years of Scottish rugby by beating them with just

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Speaker 4: a couple of players on the field. Anyway, fantastic victory

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Speaker 4: this morning for the All Blacks. There will be a

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Speaker 4: match again next Sunday as well. So right now we're

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Speaker 4: going to start talking all things building and construction. A

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Speaker 4: very good morning. Welcome along to the Resident Builder on

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Speaker 4: Sunday with me Peter wolf Camp, the Resident Builder, and

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Speaker 4: this is your opportunity to talk all things building and construction.

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Speaker 4: We can talk the rules, the regulations, the frustrations perhaps

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Speaker 4: that sometimes come along with those things. As well, we

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Speaker 4: can talk about trying to just get stuff done. What

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Speaker 4: you need, who you need to talk to, what rules

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Speaker 4: But you know there's some stuff you have to do

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Speaker 4: we can talk about that as well. We will talk

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Speaker 4: all things building, housing, fixing stuff, getting the right contractors,

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Speaker 4: whatever's on your mind this morning. And one of the

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Speaker 4: great delights, I mean this quite genuinely of the show

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Speaker 4: is I don't know what we're going to be talking

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Speaker 4: about this morning. That is completely and utterly up to you.

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Speaker 4: So if you've got a question, call me nout oh

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Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you would like

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Speaker 4: to text, you're more than welcome to do that as well.

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Speaker 4: That's nine two nine two of ZBZB from your mobile

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Speaker 4: phone and if you'd like to send me an email

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Speaker 4: absolutely Pete at newstalkzb dot co dot nzid So Pete

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Speaker 4: at newstalksb dot co dot en said, I trust you've

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Speaker 4: had a good week. I was just talking with Lockmo

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Speaker 4: producer going love the weather forecasts on that, but the

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Speaker 4: sort of you know, danger thunderstorm thing that was out

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Speaker 4: there yesterday. So I'm in the garden and I'm thinking, right,

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Speaker 4: I'm prepping doing some maintenance and repairs, and I'm sanding

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Speaker 4: Da da da da da. But there's thunderstorms coming. I

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Speaker 4: not complaining about the weather forecast. It's just it does

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Speaker 4: But I still got the water blasting done, which was awesome. Oh,

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Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty, give us a call. We

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Speaker 4: got plenty to talk about. Yes, we're a little bit

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Speaker 4: catch up. So eight hundred eighty ten eighty call.

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Speaker 1: Us now, God was but maybe call Pete first, the feeder, Walfcab,

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Speaker 4: News talks'd be news talks. There'd be twenty eight minutes

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Speaker 4: after six. I was just thinking about the water blasting thing,

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Speaker 4: of well, no a cautionary tale applying vast amounts of

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Speaker 4: And the same with timber. He hit timber really hard

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Speaker 4: Again there are different ways of doing that, but in

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Speaker 4: but I'm quite pleased that I haven't used any mains water.

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Speaker 4: So I just plug my water blaster into the little

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Speaker 4: about two thousand litters in it after winter and I

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Speaker 4: it's a good one about someone who's looking to purchase

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Speaker 4: and about you know, what sort of money should I

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Speaker 4: spend on a pre purchase inspection. That's a really good question.

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Speaker 4: I will come to that in the moment. But first

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Speaker 6: Yeah, good ay, And not four or five years ago

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Speaker 6: and they say, yeah, that's going to bleed out. Yes,

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Speaker 6: Dick's very scott black and spots. It's all gray. It's

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Speaker 6: looking dirty. It has been for some time when we

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Speaker 6: there's there's lots of product actually out there, but when

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Speaker 6: doesn't seem to so basically what happened when we scrub it.

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Speaker 6: there's things where we can't get to. And the black

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Speaker 6: spots like little birds been flying over and letting goes right,

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Speaker 6: and there they were dark brown, hoggedy color, which is

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Speaker 6: to quite get off. I'm just wondering what you're that

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Speaker 6: the deck is perfectly it's in the sun, that it's

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Speaker 6: not a stamp thing. I'm just wondering what your recommendations

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Speaker 6: might be. Because we got it because we thought, oh it

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Speaker 6: would silver up and look good, you know, five years later.

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Speaker 6: But it looks just huckery.

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Speaker 4: It's a very scriptive term. It looks just a bit hackery.

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Speaker 4: I haven't used it, and I will probably have an

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Speaker 4: opportunity to do. So I've got a couple of projects

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Speaker 4: when you don't seal timbers. So my general stance is

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Speaker 4: that if you're doing timber decking, irrespective of whether it's

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Speaker 4: always recommend that once it's flashed off, Let's say, so

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Speaker 4: if it's a tenalized deck, you let the treatment sort

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Speaker 4: it a thorough clean, and then put some sort of

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Speaker 4: sealer on it penetrating oil stain or something like that.

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Speaker 4: And I've probably pretty much got the same attitude to

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Speaker 4: So I tend to go, let's let it flash off,

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Speaker 4: give it a thorough clean, and then put a ceiler

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Speaker 4: some of that material, it might be a little bit

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Speaker 4: and so on, has actually you know, absorbed in and

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Speaker 4: things that you may or may not have tried. Have

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Speaker 4: you looked at I know we didn't forget to like

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Speaker 4: a deck reviver, like a bubble wash type product.

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Speaker 6: When I spoke to them about that, they said it

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Speaker 7: Of like a.

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Speaker 6: It worked the same way. No, member, this is just

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure that.

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Speaker 6: It works the same way. So like as a mold remover.

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Speaker 6: It's not going to do anything about tannin.

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Speaker 4: And no, that's fair enough. That's a comment, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, I was thinking of, because we have used it

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Speaker 6: in the other parts of the deck and it's been fine. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: but it's still not getting the you know those laughs.

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Speaker 6: Those The problem is that if it was just one

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Speaker 6: or two little drops, it wouldn't make so bad. But

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Speaker 6: it's like this if someone's just thrown, you know, with

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Speaker 6: a brush of through the thrown little spots all over

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Speaker 6: the deck.

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Speaker 4: Given given that timber, right, obviously, have you actually tried

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Speaker 4: sanding the surface?

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Speaker 6: No, I didn't want to damage the wood fibers.

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Speaker 4: But sand, I mean, you know in the end.

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Speaker 6: How how for what extent? I mean I did, to

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Speaker 6: be honest, I gave it a bit of a shot

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Speaker 6: at one whether the missus wasn't looking, Yeah, I believe me.

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Speaker 6: It's not that flash. So I do these things on

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Speaker 6: the slide.

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Speaker 4: And to get myself into trouble, but I know exactly.

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Speaker 6: It's just yeah, I don't really know how far down

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Speaker 6: I could go to because I was doing it and

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Speaker 6: got some off. But it's not just a surface livel right,

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Speaker 6: So you know how deep can I go?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 6: How much can I see it safely?

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Speaker 8: You know?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? How big is the deck? Roughly square meters?

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Speaker 4: Your news, dogs'd be and we're talking all things building

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Speaker 9: I put a Garpa deck down at home home here

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Speaker 9: Oh, beautiful beautiful timber. It was. There's not a knot

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Speaker 9: It's as hard as hell and very heavy, yes, but

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Speaker 4: Lovely, And I'd love to ask you questions about restoring

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Speaker 1: Whether you're painting with ceiling, fixing with fans, or wondering

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Speaker 4: B saf to say, I'm sort of quietly intrigued as

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Speaker 11: Good morning Pete. I have a house with see the

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Speaker 4: degree junction between two pieces of timber. It had been

431
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Speaker 4: painted dark, and over the last four or five years

432
00:25:10,695 --> 00:25:13,055
Speaker 4: it had started to open up, and I had simply

433
00:25:13,175 --> 00:25:17,015
Speaker 4: used I think galvanized jolts to fasten that box corner

434
00:25:17,295 --> 00:25:21,135
Speaker 4: together myself when I built it five years ago, and

435
00:25:21,215 --> 00:25:24,055
Speaker 4: they had started to open up. And what I used

436
00:25:24,175 --> 00:25:27,735
Speaker 4: is what we call a jolt screw. So this is

437
00:25:28,095 --> 00:25:32,775
Speaker 4: kind of new technology. Screws in various lengths, they are

438
00:25:33,055 --> 00:25:35,815
Speaker 4: pretty much the same gauge as a standard screw, the

439
00:25:35,895 --> 00:25:39,375
Speaker 4: head is smaller and they have a counter thread just

440
00:25:39,495 --> 00:25:43,455
Speaker 4: underneath the head. So once you've gone through the material

441
00:25:43,455 --> 00:25:48,215
Speaker 4: that you're fastening too and into the timber behind it

442
00:25:49,055 --> 00:25:52,535
Speaker 4: and it binds, it'll draw those two surfaces together and

443
00:25:52,575 --> 00:25:54,695
Speaker 4: it'll still leave you. The ones that I was using

444
00:25:54,775 --> 00:25:58,095
Speaker 4: yesterday probably be like a three milimeter head on them.

445
00:25:58,215 --> 00:26:00,895
Speaker 4: So you could grab a couple of those and see

446
00:26:00,935 --> 00:26:04,695
Speaker 4: whether by fastening those through you can draw the two

447
00:26:04,735 --> 00:26:08,815
Speaker 4: surfaces together. But I think I would probably just go

448
00:26:09,135 --> 00:26:12,295
Speaker 4: And what's the profile of the seedar Is it a

449
00:26:12,535 --> 00:26:16,255
Speaker 4: rusticated board or is it a standard Befel back board?

450
00:26:18,855 --> 00:26:21,215
Speaker 11: I think it's a rusticated board.

451
00:26:21,255 --> 00:26:23,135
Speaker 4: Right, So it's got a scollop at the top and

452
00:26:23,175 --> 00:26:25,855
Speaker 4: then a flat face and then it returns about ten

453
00:26:25,895 --> 00:26:30,855
Speaker 4: millet on the underside must be the other the okay,

454
00:26:30,855 --> 00:26:33,975
Speaker 4: So the face of the border is flat. Okay, So

455
00:26:34,175 --> 00:26:36,135
Speaker 4: is it you know standard where the boards they tuck

456
00:26:36,215 --> 00:26:39,855
Speaker 4: up one underneath the other and rusticated one's got like

457
00:26:39,895 --> 00:26:42,055
Speaker 4: a little scollop and then the face of the board

458
00:26:42,175 --> 00:26:45,895
Speaker 4: is flat and vertical as opposed to slight down.

459
00:26:45,815 --> 00:26:49,455
Speaker 8: No, No, these are at an angle.

460
00:26:49,215 --> 00:26:51,175
Speaker 4: Of about so it's a flat.

461
00:26:50,935 --> 00:26:53,335
Speaker 11: Sort tucking up underneath each other.

462
00:26:53,415 --> 00:26:57,495
Speaker 4: Perfect. That's really that's much easier to get a flashing

463
00:26:57,535 --> 00:27:00,295
Speaker 4: for those or a soaker for those than it is

464
00:27:00,335 --> 00:27:02,575
Speaker 4: the scollopped ones, because you have to literally make all

465
00:27:02,575 --> 00:27:07,535
Speaker 4: of those by hand. So I think I actually it

466
00:27:07,575 --> 00:27:10,455
Speaker 4: might be combination. Use the jolt screw to fasten the

467
00:27:10,495 --> 00:27:14,535
Speaker 4: board back'll that'll help pin it back, But then I

468
00:27:14,575 --> 00:27:17,055
Speaker 4: would apply a soaka over the top. I think that's

469
00:27:17,095 --> 00:27:19,975
Speaker 4: going to be a really good belt embraces approach to

470
00:27:20,015 --> 00:27:23,375
Speaker 4: that particular issue. Good luck with that one, John, Right,

471
00:27:23,415 --> 00:27:25,895
Speaker 4: We've got a whole bunch of text like is palisade

472
00:27:25,895 --> 00:27:29,135
Speaker 4: planning any good? How do I set out finding someone

473
00:27:29,255 --> 00:27:34,295
Speaker 4: for house inspections? Can I paint hardy plank black? And

474
00:27:34,335 --> 00:27:37,575
Speaker 4: also what are the new rules regarding these standalone dwellings? Well,

475
00:27:37,655 --> 00:27:40,215
Speaker 4: I'll hit all of those straight after the new sport

476
00:27:40,255 --> 00:27:41,615
Speaker 4: and weather top of the air at seven.

477
00:27:51,655 --> 00:27:55,295
Speaker 1: Squeaky door or squeaky floor. Get the right advice from

478
00:27:55,375 --> 00:27:58,535
Speaker 1: Peter Wolfcaf, the resident builder on News Talks MB.

479
00:27:59,415 --> 00:28:02,095
Speaker 4: Well, welcome back to the show. Eight hundred eighty ten

480
00:28:02,255 --> 00:28:04,935
Speaker 4: eighty is that number to call if you'd like to

481
00:28:04,935 --> 00:28:08,455
Speaker 4: talk about all things building construction, and it's a pretty

482
00:28:09,375 --> 00:28:14,175
Speaker 4: it's a broad palette. I say that our house has

483
00:28:14,215 --> 00:28:17,295
Speaker 4: been full of painting over the last couple of months.

484
00:28:17,695 --> 00:28:21,615
Speaker 4: Our son's year thirteen. He's putting his well, he's done

485
00:28:21,615 --> 00:28:24,215
Speaker 4: it now is art portfolio. So every time I come

486
00:28:24,215 --> 00:28:26,935
Speaker 4: home this kind of he's taken over the kitchen table

487
00:28:27,775 --> 00:28:31,335
Speaker 4: and there's there's paint palettes. Yeah, a broad variety of

488
00:28:31,335 --> 00:28:33,135
Speaker 4: colors all over the place. That's where I got that

489
00:28:33,175 --> 00:28:38,295
Speaker 4: reference from. Anyway, stretching the allegory, we can talk all

490
00:28:38,335 --> 00:28:41,175
Speaker 4: things building and construction, A broad palette of things that

491
00:28:41,215 --> 00:28:43,495
Speaker 4: we can discuss today on the show. Oh, eight hundred

492
00:28:43,575 --> 00:28:45,415
Speaker 4: eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

493
00:28:45,615 --> 00:28:45,775
Speaker 5: Now?

494
00:28:45,815 --> 00:28:48,295
Speaker 4: A couple of some great techs coming through. I'll try

495
00:28:48,335 --> 00:28:50,495
Speaker 4: and get through a few this morning, but you should

496
00:28:50,575 --> 00:28:54,375
Speaker 4: call as well again, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. First

497
00:28:54,375 --> 00:28:57,495
Speaker 4: one that came in good morning. My daughter lives in Auckland.

498
00:28:57,495 --> 00:29:00,055
Speaker 4: She's looking to buy her first ever home. She has

499
00:29:00,055 --> 00:29:03,175
Speaker 4: a limit of five hundred thousand dollars and is encountering

500
00:29:03,215 --> 00:29:06,895
Speaker 4: a lot of apartments with potentially tricky cladding. We're trying

501
00:29:06,895 --> 00:29:09,535
Speaker 4: to guide her through the process, but we're not in Auckland,

502
00:29:09,575 --> 00:29:12,015
Speaker 4: can you tell us who she can contact to get

503
00:29:12,015 --> 00:29:14,815
Speaker 4: a builder's report. She doesn't have a lot of excess

504
00:29:14,895 --> 00:29:20,575
Speaker 4: cash from Susan. I have to say, as an Aucklander,

505
00:29:21,975 --> 00:29:24,415
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of what you might buy for

506
00:29:24,535 --> 00:29:29,855
Speaker 4: five hundred thousand dollars to be really fair, I'm not

507
00:29:29,975 --> 00:29:32,855
Speaker 4: aware of I mean, I am aware of some apartments

508
00:29:32,895 --> 00:29:38,015
Speaker 4: that are for sale at around that price, and typically

509
00:29:38,055 --> 00:29:44,495
Speaker 4: they've got issues right, whether that's potentially some cladding issues

510
00:29:45,175 --> 00:29:51,895
Speaker 4: which are either knowing or likely, or I suppose the

511
00:29:51,935 --> 00:29:54,615
Speaker 4: other price point for that tends to be around places

512
00:29:54,655 --> 00:29:57,135
Speaker 4: that are on lease hold land, and then there's a

513
00:29:57,295 --> 00:30:00,695
Speaker 4: genuine uncertainty about what's going to happen to those leases

514
00:30:02,935 --> 00:30:06,695
Speaker 4: in time, and do you get to control the amount

515
00:30:06,775 --> 00:30:11,095
Speaker 4: of increase let's say that might be ahead with a

516
00:30:11,215 --> 00:30:17,295
Speaker 4: lease so and builders reports and this has been a

517
00:30:17,575 --> 00:30:19,815
Speaker 4: kind of We've talked about this a few times, and

518
00:30:19,855 --> 00:30:23,735
Speaker 4: certainly among other building professionals, there's been a lot of

519
00:30:23,775 --> 00:30:26,815
Speaker 4: discussion around it in terms of while there is an

520
00:30:26,855 --> 00:30:31,655
Speaker 4: actual New Zealand standard for building reports, I would suggest

521
00:30:31,695 --> 00:30:36,895
Speaker 4: that because nobody has to prove any qualification in order

522
00:30:36,935 --> 00:30:43,455
Speaker 4: to undertake a building report, the variability of them is vast.

523
00:30:45,455 --> 00:30:49,895
Speaker 4: I've seen some which basically you do wonder whether the

524
00:30:49,895 --> 00:30:54,255
Speaker 4: person actually ever went to the house. And I've seen others,

525
00:30:54,295 --> 00:30:57,415
Speaker 4: and I was forwarded one from someone the other day

526
00:30:57,535 --> 00:31:01,735
Speaker 4: who it had been done for a previous purchaser, and anyway,

527
00:31:01,775 --> 00:31:05,495
Speaker 4: it was an exceptionally good report. The person was thorough.

528
00:31:05,815 --> 00:31:08,415
Speaker 4: The report had lots and lots of information, like a

529
00:31:08,455 --> 00:31:12,495
Speaker 4: phenomenal amount of information, it was, and you could tell

530
00:31:12,495 --> 00:31:14,895
Speaker 4: that the person who had done it, and you understood

531
00:31:14,935 --> 00:31:18,095
Speaker 4: what buildings are about and understands how they perform and

532
00:31:18,615 --> 00:31:22,775
Speaker 4: what impact various defects might have and why certain defects occurred.

533
00:31:24,135 --> 00:31:26,615
Speaker 4: And then of course we've talked a lot on the

534
00:31:26,615 --> 00:31:30,095
Speaker 4: show about building surveys, so people who are part of

535
00:31:30,095 --> 00:31:32,735
Speaker 4: the New Zealand it's due to building surveys and similar bodies,

536
00:31:32,935 --> 00:31:35,975
Speaker 4: you know, for that level of professionalism as well. And

537
00:31:36,015 --> 00:31:40,815
Speaker 4: then there's a cost associated with that. So I wonder

538
00:31:40,855 --> 00:31:48,615
Speaker 4: whether Susan for your daughter who's looking to buy, I mean,

539
00:31:48,655 --> 00:31:52,135
Speaker 4: buying something that's got some possible issues in terms of

540
00:31:52,135 --> 00:31:56,335
Speaker 4: planning is genuinely quite risky, so you'd have to be

541
00:31:56,415 --> 00:32:00,815
Speaker 4: super cautious about that. You know, again, this may not

542
00:32:00,935 --> 00:32:04,215
Speaker 4: happen here, but there's if you've looked at this story

543
00:32:04,255 --> 00:32:08,935
Speaker 4: about the apartments that are essentially being more than reclad

544
00:32:09,655 --> 00:32:11,615
Speaker 4: in Saint Luke's at the moment, you know, the remedial

545
00:32:11,655 --> 00:32:14,495
Speaker 4: bill has got up to three four hundred thousand dollars

546
00:32:14,535 --> 00:32:19,655
Speaker 4: per apartment for apartments that basically are selling for half

547
00:32:19,735 --> 00:32:23,855
Speaker 4: that at the moment. It doesn't take long to do

548
00:32:23,895 --> 00:32:27,815
Speaker 4: a Google search to find someone whose entire financial life

549
00:32:27,855 --> 00:32:31,895
Speaker 4: has been ruined by purchasing a building that ends up

550
00:32:31,975 --> 00:32:37,575
Speaker 4: having massive remedial work. And in some circumstances, I'm caging

551
00:32:37,655 --> 00:32:41,735
Speaker 4: all of this because things change a lot depending on circumstance.

552
00:32:41,775 --> 00:32:44,335
Speaker 4: But you know, in some cases people are being forced

553
00:32:44,415 --> 00:32:49,375
Speaker 4: by their body corporate to pay tens hundreds of thousands

554
00:32:49,375 --> 00:32:52,975
Speaker 4: of dollars for remedial work that they are then responsible

555
00:32:53,015 --> 00:32:55,935
Speaker 4: for because they're part of a body corporate. So there's

556
00:32:55,935 --> 00:32:59,735
Speaker 4: a few challenges there. I would suggest that maybe some

557
00:32:59,775 --> 00:33:02,375
Speaker 4: of the real estate agents that she might be using

558
00:33:02,415 --> 00:33:05,735
Speaker 4: to search for a property might be able to give

559
00:33:05,775 --> 00:33:09,615
Speaker 4: her some guy it's there. Someone's asked, what's palside cladding

560
00:33:09,735 --> 00:33:13,295
Speaker 4: like shivers? I think the last time that I might

561
00:33:13,295 --> 00:33:15,935
Speaker 4: have installed someone was twenty five years ago, so to

562
00:33:15,935 --> 00:33:17,655
Speaker 4: be fair, I'm a little bit out of date on

563
00:33:17,735 --> 00:33:21,335
Speaker 4: that in terms of first hand knowledge. Obviously it's still available,

564
00:33:21,415 --> 00:33:25,895
Speaker 4: it's compliant with the building code. There are some, you know,

565
00:33:26,095 --> 00:33:30,215
Speaker 4: real benefits in terms of durability and less maintenance than

566
00:33:30,255 --> 00:33:34,175
Speaker 4: other surfaces. But you'd probably want to try and find

567
00:33:34,175 --> 00:33:36,975
Speaker 4: someone who's installed it recently to ask them about that.

568
00:33:38,215 --> 00:33:41,775
Speaker 4: Can you paint James Hardy Plank cladding black so Hardi

569
00:33:41,815 --> 00:33:46,455
Speaker 4: Plank basically cladding, Does it make it hot inside the house?

570
00:33:47,375 --> 00:33:51,335
Speaker 4: Now that's a really interesting question. I mean, obviously, one

571
00:33:51,335 --> 00:33:54,295
Speaker 4: of the issues with painting some types of cladding dark

572
00:33:54,335 --> 00:33:57,335
Speaker 4: colors is the cladding itself is not designed to take it.

573
00:33:57,655 --> 00:34:01,095
Speaker 4: So if you read carefully instructions for most timber claddings,

574
00:34:01,415 --> 00:34:05,535
Speaker 4: they'll talk about a light reflectance value, and so if

575
00:34:05,575 --> 00:34:08,895
Speaker 4: you paint it too dark, you basically avoid the warranty

576
00:34:09,055 --> 00:34:12,695
Speaker 4: on the timber because it's not designed to be painted

577
00:34:12,935 --> 00:34:16,295
Speaker 4: that color. Because of the amount of heat that is

578
00:34:16,415 --> 00:34:20,215
Speaker 4: absorbed by dark colors and transferred through into the timber,

579
00:34:20,935 --> 00:34:25,095
Speaker 4: fiber cement sheet in general, and Hardy Plank as well,

580
00:34:26,375 --> 00:34:29,255
Speaker 4: because it's a fiber cement sheet, it doesn't perform the

581
00:34:29,255 --> 00:34:31,735
Speaker 4: same way as timber, because it's not timber. Therefore, you

582
00:34:31,775 --> 00:34:34,095
Speaker 4: can paint it dark color. So typically you can paint

583
00:34:34,175 --> 00:34:37,975
Speaker 4: those surfaces or those materials whatever color you like. Will

584
00:34:37,975 --> 00:34:44,455
Speaker 4: it make the house hotter inside? I suppose that depends

585
00:34:44,495 --> 00:34:48,495
Speaker 4: a little bit on the quality of the insulation beyond there.

586
00:34:49,015 --> 00:34:53,215
Speaker 4: So if instead of reflecting heat by having a light

587
00:34:53,255 --> 00:34:57,055
Speaker 4: color on the exterior of the building, you're absorbing the heat,

588
00:34:57,415 --> 00:35:00,135
Speaker 4: then what stops it transferring through to the inside of

589
00:35:00,135 --> 00:35:03,695
Speaker 4: the house will be the insulation. So if you've got potentially,

590
00:35:04,095 --> 00:35:06,295
Speaker 4: let's say hardy plank on the outside, you paint it black,

591
00:35:06,415 --> 00:35:09,615
Speaker 4: you've got an older house that has maybe no insulation

592
00:35:09,935 --> 00:35:13,935
Speaker 4: or not much insulation, then yes, potentially some of that

593
00:35:13,975 --> 00:35:16,935
Speaker 4: heat will transfer through to the inside of the house.

594
00:35:18,095 --> 00:35:20,095
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I mean, what would it

595
00:35:20,135 --> 00:35:26,735
Speaker 4: be a degree? Possibly maybe less? Be interesting to know. Oh,

596
00:35:26,775 --> 00:35:28,855
Speaker 4: eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to

597
00:35:28,855 --> 00:35:30,855
Speaker 4: four and the last one that's in my queue at

598
00:35:30,895 --> 00:35:34,295
Speaker 4: the moment. Hey, Pete, apologize if this has been asked recently.

599
00:35:34,335 --> 00:35:37,495
Speaker 4: Can you update me on the new regulations regarding additional

600
00:35:37,535 --> 00:35:40,815
Speaker 4: standalone dwelling structures on property. Let's say in the Auckland

601
00:35:40,855 --> 00:35:44,895
Speaker 4: Regent number one. When consent is required, what size building

602
00:35:44,975 --> 00:35:48,175
Speaker 4: of slightly over thirty square meters doesn't trigger our consent?

603
00:35:49,055 --> 00:35:53,415
Speaker 4: So at the moment where the legislation has been passed

604
00:35:53,415 --> 00:35:55,935
Speaker 4: but it hasn't become law yet. And this is around

605
00:35:56,015 --> 00:35:59,055
Speaker 4: the granny flats for one of a better term, up

606
00:35:59,055 --> 00:36:02,655
Speaker 4: to seventy square meters may be able to be built

607
00:36:02,695 --> 00:36:05,975
Speaker 4: without requiring a building consent if they then comply with

608
00:36:05,975 --> 00:36:09,095
Speaker 4: a number of other rules in terms of distance away

609
00:36:09,095 --> 00:36:13,535
Speaker 4: from the boundary, distance away from another building, lightweight construction.

610
00:36:13,935 --> 00:36:16,255
Speaker 4: It still needs to be engineered, It still needs to

611
00:36:16,295 --> 00:36:19,335
Speaker 4: be designed, still needs to be built by licensed building practitioner.

612
00:36:19,375 --> 00:36:23,495
Speaker 4: You still need to use licensed subcontractors for plumbing and electrical,

613
00:36:23,935 --> 00:36:26,615
Speaker 4: and you still need to tell counsel what you're going

614
00:36:26,695 --> 00:36:31,135
Speaker 4: to do. It's basically the rules there that's coming to

615
00:36:31,375 --> 00:36:33,855
Speaker 4: information about connecting to sewer? Is it possible or not?

616
00:36:33,975 --> 00:36:38,175
Speaker 4: Can you do? I guess it's no without a consent. Well,

617
00:36:38,175 --> 00:36:40,815
Speaker 4: that's the other interesting thing that's coming is that typically

618
00:36:40,975 --> 00:36:46,135
Speaker 4: drainage work and adding a new sanitary fitting, whether that's

619
00:36:46,175 --> 00:36:49,455
Speaker 4: in this case inside the house or in an adjacent building,

620
00:36:49,895 --> 00:36:53,215
Speaker 4: triggered a requirement for building consent. That is also, to

621
00:36:53,295 --> 00:36:56,575
Speaker 4: the best of my knowledge, going to change, because the

622
00:36:56,615 --> 00:36:59,655
Speaker 4: whole point of not requiring a building consent for up

623
00:36:59,735 --> 00:37:02,455
Speaker 4: to seventy square meters means that all of those associated

624
00:37:02,455 --> 00:37:05,495
Speaker 4: sub trades, particularly the plumbers drain layers, won't need to

625
00:37:05,495 --> 00:37:08,415
Speaker 4: get a consent, won't need to have council inspections for

626
00:37:08,535 --> 00:37:11,855
Speaker 4: their work. Work still needs to comply with the relevant codes.

627
00:37:12,655 --> 00:37:16,535
Speaker 4: So the only well, there's probably a whole bunch of

628
00:37:16,575 --> 00:37:19,735
Speaker 4: fishocks there, but one of them might be counsel might

629
00:37:19,815 --> 00:37:25,455
Speaker 4: have determined that there's insufficient capacity in the public services

630
00:37:26,535 --> 00:37:29,815
Speaker 4: for additional connections. So when you go to council with

631
00:37:29,895 --> 00:37:34,255
Speaker 4: your plan and you submit a PIM to say I

632
00:37:34,335 --> 00:37:37,615
Speaker 4: want to do this work, they may say, sorry, that

633
00:37:37,655 --> 00:37:39,455
Speaker 4: there's lots of maize and maybes and all of this.

634
00:37:39,575 --> 00:37:43,255
Speaker 4: But they might say, no, we have insufficient capacity. We

635
00:37:43,295 --> 00:37:46,015
Speaker 4: can't allow you to make an additional connection. That might

636
00:37:46,095 --> 00:37:49,735
Speaker 4: happen we'll see at the stage two. Really really important

637
00:37:49,735 --> 00:37:53,415
Speaker 4: to emphasize the fact that this is not operable at

638
00:37:53,415 --> 00:37:57,375
Speaker 4: the moment. Right and I got an email from builders Hub,

639
00:37:57,415 --> 00:38:01,455
Speaker 4: the other building Hub, saying hey, look, you know clients

640
00:38:01,495 --> 00:38:03,775
Speaker 4: are ringing their builders saying, can you start building the

641
00:38:03,815 --> 00:38:07,895
Speaker 4: seventy square meter minor dwelling in my backyard please? Because

642
00:38:07,895 --> 00:38:12,975
Speaker 4: I don't need a consent? No, basically because it's not

643
00:38:13,455 --> 00:38:16,735
Speaker 4: the law right now, so you can't start building these

644
00:38:16,775 --> 00:38:20,375
Speaker 4: things right now. Short answer eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

645
00:38:20,455 --> 00:38:23,095
Speaker 4: The number to call will take your calls now, I've

646
00:38:23,095 --> 00:38:25,135
Speaker 4: done the text. I've kind of caught up to date.

647
00:38:25,775 --> 00:38:30,495
Speaker 4: M Oh, here's a classic looking at by and get home.

648
00:38:30,695 --> 00:38:33,335
Speaker 4: What do you think of them? They look legit, Van,

649
00:38:33,615 --> 00:38:35,975
Speaker 4: That's you're probably right. I think you've got to do

650
00:38:36,015 --> 00:38:40,815
Speaker 4: your research. Obviously, companies that have been around for a while,

651
00:38:40,895 --> 00:38:44,535
Speaker 4: that provide back up, provide advice and so on, that

652
00:38:44,615 --> 00:38:47,655
Speaker 4: have a track record, yep. If you've never heard about

653
00:38:47,655 --> 00:38:49,935
Speaker 4: them before and you don't know if they're going to

654
00:38:49,935 --> 00:38:52,495
Speaker 4: be around, and it all seems a bit shady, stay

655
00:38:52,535 --> 00:38:55,095
Speaker 4: away from it. I would suggest seventeen minutes after seven

656
00:38:55,135 --> 00:38:57,295
Speaker 4: you with news talk z'd be will take your calls now,

657
00:38:57,535 --> 00:38:59,575
Speaker 4: eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

658
00:38:59,895 --> 00:39:03,775
Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident

659
00:39:03,815 --> 00:39:08,295
Speaker 1: builder with Peta Wolfcare call oh eight hundre a talk ZV.

660
00:39:10,055 --> 00:39:12,735
Speaker 4: To the caller that that phone through a couple of

661
00:39:12,775 --> 00:39:16,495
Speaker 4: minutes ago, had a long chat with Locke, my producer

662
00:39:17,015 --> 00:39:21,335
Speaker 4: off air obviously, and made a very kind, generous offer

663
00:39:22,095 --> 00:39:26,855
Speaker 4: for the to pass on to me his treasured possession

664
00:39:27,015 --> 00:39:32,255
Speaker 4: being a five meter long steamer. I don't actually think

665
00:39:32,935 --> 00:39:36,535
Speaker 4: it would fit in my garage, No, it would, but

666
00:39:37,175 --> 00:39:40,175
Speaker 4: thank you, like genuinely, thank you very much for making

667
00:39:40,175 --> 00:39:44,455
Speaker 4: that offer. But I don't do enough steaming of timber

668
00:39:44,615 --> 00:39:48,255
Speaker 4: to justify having my own five meter long steamer. That

669
00:39:48,335 --> 00:39:55,015
Speaker 4: would would severely limit other operations within my rather restrained

670
00:39:55,215 --> 00:40:00,695
Speaker 4: confines of my workshop, which I have to say, I

671
00:40:00,735 --> 00:40:02,495
Speaker 4: don't know what it's like for you if you've got

672
00:40:02,495 --> 00:40:04,535
Speaker 4: a workshop that you kind of you know, you work

673
00:40:04,615 --> 00:40:08,055
Speaker 4: out of in the sense of projects come in and

674
00:40:08,055 --> 00:40:10,375
Speaker 4: out and that sort of thing. There's always that clutter

675
00:40:10,455 --> 00:40:13,415
Speaker 4: that builds up during a project. Stuff gets dumped on

676
00:40:13,455 --> 00:40:17,815
Speaker 4: the bench and then it's I'll sort that out. But then,

677
00:40:17,855 --> 00:40:19,655
Speaker 4: of course when you want to go in there and

678
00:40:19,735 --> 00:40:22,255
Speaker 4: work on the next part of the project, it's harder

679
00:40:22,295 --> 00:40:24,135
Speaker 4: to do so because there's stuff in the way, and

680
00:40:24,455 --> 00:40:26,775
Speaker 4: I've got a couple of chairs that I'm restoring, I've

681
00:40:26,815 --> 00:40:28,895
Speaker 4: got some other things that I need to fix. Then

682
00:40:28,895 --> 00:40:31,815
Speaker 4: I've got to make something today, which requires me to

683
00:40:31,855 --> 00:40:34,175
Speaker 4: get those out of the way first. So it's there's

684
00:40:34,215 --> 00:40:36,655
Speaker 4: a log jam, there's a log jab in the workshop

685
00:40:36,695 --> 00:40:38,295
Speaker 4: at the moment I need to get into there. I

686
00:40:38,335 --> 00:40:40,615
Speaker 4: was kind of waiting for it to rain, to be fair.

687
00:40:40,695 --> 00:40:42,815
Speaker 4: I was thinking, if it rains, i'll go and we're

688
00:40:43,255 --> 00:40:45,215
Speaker 4: even yesterday it was like, if it rains, i'll go home,

689
00:40:45,255 --> 00:40:46,855
Speaker 4: work in the workshop. But it didn't, so I had

690
00:40:46,855 --> 00:40:49,775
Speaker 4: to stay out on site. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Well,

691
00:40:50,015 --> 00:40:51,895
Speaker 4: we'll take your calls. Love in the text, but love

692
00:40:51,935 --> 00:40:55,455
Speaker 4: the calls to be fair. Love the calls more so

693
00:40:55,575 --> 00:41:00,255
Speaker 4: call us oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. With regard

694
00:41:00,335 --> 00:41:04,815
Speaker 4: to the comments about I suppose for people who have

695
00:41:04,895 --> 00:41:08,535
Speaker 4: been impacted by making a purchase and then finding out

696
00:41:08,575 --> 00:41:11,695
Speaker 4: that there's defects in the building, and particularly ones where

697
00:41:12,975 --> 00:41:16,575
Speaker 4: in an apartment or with buildings that have body corporates,

698
00:41:17,135 --> 00:41:19,655
Speaker 4: you kind of can't opt out, right. So if you

699
00:41:19,975 --> 00:41:23,695
Speaker 4: bill or if you buy a standalone building and find

700
00:41:23,735 --> 00:41:26,335
Speaker 4: that there's defects, well yes you're probably going to have

701
00:41:26,335 --> 00:41:28,095
Speaker 4: to fix it, but you're the one who gets to

702
00:41:28,175 --> 00:41:32,695
Speaker 4: decide that. As opposed to this text, from Robert High Pete.

703
00:41:32,735 --> 00:41:36,815
Speaker 4: In our terraced townhouse complex of only ten units, three

704
00:41:36,895 --> 00:41:40,495
Speaker 4: owners were bankrupted by the body Corp when they could

705
00:41:40,575 --> 00:41:42,855
Speaker 4: not afford to reclad. This is back in two thousand

706
00:41:42,895 --> 00:41:46,055
Speaker 4: and nine. The other seven had to get second mortgages

707
00:41:46,255 --> 00:41:48,455
Speaker 4: after the Auckland City Council were forced to come to

708
00:41:48,495 --> 00:41:51,895
Speaker 4: the party. The final cost for the seven was some

709
00:41:52,055 --> 00:41:55,455
Speaker 4: seventy thousand. I presume that seventy thousand each. This was

710
00:41:55,535 --> 00:41:58,455
Speaker 4: on units that only cost about two hundred and ten

711
00:41:58,615 --> 00:42:04,175
Speaker 4: thousand dollars in two thousand. That's from Robert. And look,

712
00:42:04,295 --> 00:42:06,655
Speaker 4: I'm sure that there's a whole bunch of people have

713
00:42:06,735 --> 00:42:13,175
Speaker 4: got exactly the same story as that. Pete loved the

714
00:42:13,215 --> 00:42:17,055
Speaker 4: show re substandard builds. I have friends family severely financially

715
00:42:17,095 --> 00:42:20,775
Speaker 4: impacted due to buying poorly built houses and apartments. Will

716
00:42:20,775 --> 00:42:23,895
Speaker 4: we ever see an end to this continuing mess? And

717
00:42:23,975 --> 00:42:25,735
Speaker 4: then they go on to say that maybe I should

718
00:42:25,815 --> 00:42:29,215
Speaker 4: run for council. Thank you, that's very kind. Probably not

719
00:42:29,335 --> 00:42:33,295
Speaker 4: at the stage I would suggest will we see an

720
00:42:33,375 --> 00:42:40,775
Speaker 4: end to it? Yes, Tentatively i'd say that we're building better.

721
00:42:41,215 --> 00:42:45,495
Speaker 4: But as it happened last weekend, when I finished here,

722
00:42:45,855 --> 00:42:47,935
Speaker 4: I shot out to look at a new build for

723
00:42:48,215 --> 00:42:53,895
Speaker 4: a good friend of ours and came away slightly disheartened

724
00:42:54,895 --> 00:43:00,815
Speaker 4: as well. That wandering into a brand new build and

725
00:43:00,895 --> 00:43:05,695
Speaker 4: being able to identify a whole host of faults and

726
00:43:06,375 --> 00:43:10,695
Speaker 4: defects that you know, if I can walk in in

727
00:43:10,775 --> 00:43:13,255
Speaker 4: forty five minutes and wander around and go, hang on,

728
00:43:13,375 --> 00:43:16,575
Speaker 4: why is that screw popping? Well? I mean I took

729
00:43:16,615 --> 00:43:19,535
Speaker 4: a photograph of the silicon job in one part of

730
00:43:19,535 --> 00:43:23,135
Speaker 4: the house, and it was the classic. It was a vanity.

731
00:43:23,615 --> 00:43:25,255
Speaker 4: When you walked in, you could see one side of

732
00:43:25,255 --> 00:43:26,975
Speaker 4: the vanity, but you had to go past it and

733
00:43:27,015 --> 00:43:29,415
Speaker 4: look backwards to see the other side. So on the

734
00:43:29,455 --> 00:43:31,935
Speaker 4: side that you could see when you walked in, the

735
00:43:32,055 --> 00:43:34,935
Speaker 4: silicon job just selling it to the tiles, right, simple

736
00:43:35,055 --> 00:43:39,295
Speaker 4: job was halfway decent. On the other side, it looked

737
00:43:39,335 --> 00:43:44,335
Speaker 4: like lava, and I'm like, where's the attention to detail?

738
00:43:44,495 --> 00:43:49,895
Speaker 4: Just a little bit of pride in your work? Anyway,

739
00:43:50,415 --> 00:43:53,375
Speaker 4: it was broadly speaking, it was okay. It's just lack

740
00:43:53,415 --> 00:43:56,135
Speaker 4: of attention to detail in those sorts of areas, and

741
00:43:56,495 --> 00:44:00,175
Speaker 4: it speaks to a lack of care, which is a

742
00:44:00,215 --> 00:44:03,335
Speaker 4: bit disheartening. I think as constructors we should care about

743
00:44:03,335 --> 00:44:04,735
Speaker 4: what we do and we should have pride in it

744
00:44:04,775 --> 00:44:08,215
Speaker 4: and you shouldn't leave it like Thatch Opinion seven five.

745
00:44:08,455 --> 00:44:09,655
Speaker 4: Good morning to you, Brian.

746
00:44:10,935 --> 00:44:11,615
Speaker 5: Good morning Pete.

747
00:44:11,615 --> 00:44:13,695
Speaker 8: How are you very well? Thank you? How come I help?

748
00:44:13,735 --> 00:44:17,575
Speaker 5: Yeah? Good good. So I have rung you before, I

749
00:44:17,615 --> 00:44:20,095
Speaker 5: think some years ago in regards to some internal gathering

750
00:44:20,135 --> 00:44:22,295
Speaker 5: we have, well, the whole house has got internal gathering,

751
00:44:22,535 --> 00:44:25,135
Speaker 5: which we know is a problematic or can be.

752
00:44:25,615 --> 00:44:29,175
Speaker 4: Now, let's clear. When you say internal gathering, are you

753
00:44:29,255 --> 00:44:33,575
Speaker 4: talking about the concealed spouting exposed facier type system. So

754
00:44:33,615 --> 00:44:36,175
Speaker 4: you've got a metal facier that runs around the perimeter

755
00:44:36,255 --> 00:44:38,615
Speaker 4: of the building and tucked inside there's some spouting.

756
00:44:39,975 --> 00:44:45,495
Speaker 5: Yeah, ok, yep, yep, I know. Yeah, that's your standard. Now,

757
00:44:46,295 --> 00:44:48,615
Speaker 5: I don't know about how it's actually constructed, but it

758
00:44:48,655 --> 00:44:52,255
Speaker 5: almost appears like it's got it's like a you inside

759
00:44:52,255 --> 00:44:55,415
Speaker 5: of you, so that there's that actually is actually a

760
00:44:55,495 --> 00:44:58,855
Speaker 5: space between the where the water sits and and the

761
00:44:58,855 --> 00:45:02,655
Speaker 5: bottom of the of the of the metal frame or

762
00:45:03,015 --> 00:45:04,815
Speaker 5: facial or what if you call it, if you know

763
00:45:04,895 --> 00:45:08,055
Speaker 5: what I mean. So it's like it's you inside of you. Now,

764
00:45:08,055 --> 00:45:10,575
Speaker 5: we hit a couple of well, we had a guy

765
00:45:10,655 --> 00:45:14,015
Speaker 5: came open because after Gabriel the water was so it

766
00:45:14,175 --> 00:45:16,775
Speaker 5: was so intense that we got flooded inside. It went

767
00:45:16,815 --> 00:45:19,975
Speaker 5: went up inside and inside the house. Now it did

768
00:45:20,015 --> 00:45:23,215
Speaker 5: that where the starting door was, because there wasn't you know,

769
00:45:23,335 --> 00:45:26,255
Speaker 5: like on a standard eve our. He's actually quite wide.

770
00:45:26,255 --> 00:45:30,695
Speaker 5: They're about four hundred wide, which is great, quite substantial,

771
00:45:31,415 --> 00:45:35,295
Speaker 5: but where the slight sliding door is, it's like one inch.

772
00:45:36,895 --> 00:45:40,615
Speaker 5: So the internal the internal gathering actually sits almost inside

773
00:45:40,615 --> 00:45:44,375
Speaker 5: the perimeter of the house. When Gabriel came, it just

774
00:45:44,655 --> 00:45:47,135
Speaker 5: overflowed there and came in on the inside of the

775
00:45:47,135 --> 00:45:49,255
Speaker 5: starting door. So we had a guy came and put

776
00:45:49,255 --> 00:45:54,495
Speaker 5: a put an overflow velven that overflow valve. I had

777
00:45:54,495 --> 00:45:56,975
Speaker 5: a plumber coming. Are we supposed to give me a

778
00:45:57,055 --> 00:45:58,655
Speaker 5: quote and never did, but he was supposed to give

779
00:45:58,695 --> 00:46:01,775
Speaker 5: me a quote on putting another valven, And he seemed

780
00:46:01,775 --> 00:46:05,415
Speaker 5: to think that if you're not careful putting an overflow

781
00:46:05,535 --> 00:46:11,215
Speaker 5: valve connection, the restrict the amount of water that is released, basically,

782
00:46:11,295 --> 00:46:14,615
Speaker 5: because what it's doing is actually it's finding your point

783
00:46:14,655 --> 00:46:16,735
Speaker 5: in their gathering that says hey, I'm going to go there,

784
00:46:16,735 --> 00:46:19,775
Speaker 5: and it's actually putting it away in some respects from

785
00:46:19,815 --> 00:46:24,495
Speaker 5: the actual downpipes on either side, which was an interesting concept.

786
00:46:24,615 --> 00:46:24,655
Speaker 10: No.

787
00:46:25,935 --> 00:46:28,615
Speaker 5: One of the things I what I specifically wanted to

788
00:46:28,655 --> 00:46:31,855
Speaker 5: talk about was I was actually thinking of because those

789
00:46:31,935 --> 00:46:35,695
Speaker 5: overflow valves are fairly i know, the elongated, so if

790
00:46:35,695 --> 00:46:38,415
Speaker 5: you sort of squeeze their elongation up into a round circle,

791
00:46:38,455 --> 00:46:42,695
Speaker 5: it'd probably be be reasoned of reasonable size. But I

792
00:46:42,815 --> 00:46:45,815
Speaker 5: was actually thinking of getting a whole sord drilling right

793
00:46:45,895 --> 00:46:49,215
Speaker 5: through the top and bottom level of that internal gathering.

794
00:46:49,575 --> 00:46:51,655
Speaker 5: So I had a whole game right through and then

795
00:46:51,695 --> 00:46:53,855
Speaker 5: putting a piece of pipe and it's looking I mean

796
00:46:53,975 --> 00:46:58,655
Speaker 5: like like doing a proper job. Yeah, and and having

797
00:46:58,695 --> 00:47:01,495
Speaker 5: that you know, sit inch and a half capital of

798
00:47:01,535 --> 00:47:05,415
Speaker 5: pictures up and I mean it would only happen periodically,

799
00:47:05,455 --> 00:47:07,415
Speaker 5: but I'm just I just don't want to get to

800
00:47:07,495 --> 00:47:10,175
Speaker 5: that situation water coming in the house again. So I'm

801
00:47:10,215 --> 00:47:12,575
Speaker 5: sort of on the verge of going a bit extreme,

802
00:47:12,655 --> 00:47:13,375
Speaker 5: if you know what I mean.

803
00:47:14,695 --> 00:47:16,615
Speaker 4: And I get where you're coming from, and I think

804
00:47:16,655 --> 00:47:20,055
Speaker 4: it's probably a workable solution, except it doesn't solve the

805
00:47:20,375 --> 00:47:23,815
Speaker 4: big problem. And the big problem is those things are problematic, right,

806
00:47:24,535 --> 00:47:28,575
Speaker 4: The entire system and set up is problematic, And without

807
00:47:28,615 --> 00:47:32,255
Speaker 4: wanting to be a Doom's sayer. Eventually is it a

808
00:47:32,335 --> 00:47:34,295
Speaker 4: it's a metal internal spouting.

809
00:47:35,415 --> 00:47:35,655
Speaker 8: Yep.

810
00:47:35,855 --> 00:47:41,055
Speaker 4: Okay, If not now, sometime in the future, it'll rust. Yeah,

811
00:47:41,455 --> 00:47:42,695
Speaker 4: it'll fail every week.

812
00:47:42,975 --> 00:47:45,775
Speaker 5: Okay. So it was built of earth, it was built

813
00:47:45,815 --> 00:47:48,735
Speaker 5: of ninety five class And I get up on the

814
00:47:48,815 --> 00:47:50,655
Speaker 5: roof about once every year and have a lock and

815
00:47:52,215 --> 00:47:56,295
Speaker 5: there is no sign of anything that would that would

816
00:47:56,295 --> 00:47:56,775
Speaker 5: consume me.

817
00:47:56,935 --> 00:47:58,215
Speaker 4: Okay, yep.

818
00:47:58,295 --> 00:47:59,255
Speaker 5: Yeah.

819
00:47:59,295 --> 00:48:03,135
Speaker 4: Look in that sense, I think if you're diligence diligent

820
00:48:03,175 --> 00:48:05,855
Speaker 4: with your maintenance, the problem with them is a little

821
00:48:05,855 --> 00:48:09,135
Speaker 4: bit about capacity. They are very difficult to repair if

822
00:48:09,135 --> 00:48:11,415
Speaker 4: you leave them in situe. But if yours is not

823
00:48:11,535 --> 00:48:15,775
Speaker 4: starting to rust, but it's a capacity issue, then yes,

824
00:48:16,255 --> 00:48:19,575
Speaker 4: providing for some overflow that in heavy rain, which we're

825
00:48:19,575 --> 00:48:22,935
Speaker 4: getting a lot more of these intense downpours, that rather

826
00:48:23,015 --> 00:48:26,975
Speaker 4: than the water building up and overtopping, flooding over your

827
00:48:27,215 --> 00:48:30,495
Speaker 4: feet and into the building envelope, it finds another and

828
00:48:30,535 --> 00:48:33,415
Speaker 4: even if it just floods onto the ground in your situation,

829
00:48:33,575 --> 00:48:35,935
Speaker 4: not a not a bad response. So I think go

830
00:48:35,935 --> 00:48:37,535
Speaker 4: ahead with what you're proposing.

831
00:48:38,615 --> 00:48:39,015
Speaker 5: It's a.

832
00:48:40,615 --> 00:48:43,935
Speaker 4: Three inch part, yeah, just let it just give the

833
00:48:43,975 --> 00:48:46,775
Speaker 4: water somewhere to go, right, just accepting the fact that

834
00:48:46,855 --> 00:48:50,095
Speaker 4: it's it's insufficient capacity and it's going to overtop, and

835
00:48:50,135 --> 00:48:53,655
Speaker 4: you just want to direct it away. Typically, when when

836
00:48:53,695 --> 00:48:56,135
Speaker 4: I'm having this conversation, if it was in let's say,

837
00:48:56,135 --> 00:48:58,935
Speaker 4: if it was an average condition or poor condition, I'd say.

838
00:48:59,815 --> 00:49:03,415
Speaker 4: The great thing about a problem that's fairly common is

839
00:49:03,455 --> 00:49:06,655
Speaker 4: that people will find a solution to it. And there's

840
00:49:06,655 --> 00:49:09,015
Speaker 4: a couple that I know. There's a new one that

841
00:49:09,055 --> 00:49:12,415
Speaker 4: I went to see the other day, a company that's

842
00:49:13,655 --> 00:49:18,855
Speaker 4: called RIGS, so r i GS. I know the guy

843
00:49:18,895 --> 00:49:21,215
Speaker 4: from years ago. He's been doing roofing and spouting for

844
00:49:21,335 --> 00:49:24,095
Speaker 4: donkeys years. He's come up with a system himself. So

845
00:49:24,215 --> 00:49:29,255
Speaker 4: it's basically a substitute system for these whether it's Taylor

846
00:49:29,335 --> 00:49:32,575
Speaker 4: or Diamond or Trimline or whoever made the original ones,

847
00:49:33,575 --> 00:49:36,935
Speaker 4: where they pull that off. They've got clips everything ready,

848
00:49:36,935 --> 00:49:39,855
Speaker 4: they'll do a new facire, they'll do an external spouting

849
00:49:40,775 --> 00:49:44,535
Speaker 4: onto your existing house. So if you're interested in that,

850
00:49:44,735 --> 00:49:47,735
Speaker 4: if you're thinking long term, I want a solution, just

851
00:49:48,255 --> 00:49:53,175
Speaker 4: do a Google search for RIGS. So, yeah, revamp internal

852
00:49:53,215 --> 00:49:56,655
Speaker 4: gutter systems. There's a couple of other ones out there.

853
00:49:57,215 --> 00:49:59,415
Speaker 4: They're also very good, but this is worth looking at,

854
00:49:59,455 --> 00:50:02,775
Speaker 4: so Riggs r I g S have a look at

855
00:50:02,775 --> 00:50:04,215
Speaker 4: that as well. But otherwise I think you're on the

856
00:50:04,255 --> 00:50:07,655
Speaker 4: right track. Nice to talk to, right, I much appreciated.

857
00:50:07,695 --> 00:50:10,375
Speaker 4: Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number

858
00:50:10,415 --> 00:50:14,255
Speaker 4: to call, and that's a text for Rudo. Come to

859
00:50:14,255 --> 00:50:16,375
Speaker 4: that a little bit later on. Rudd will be joining us.

860
00:50:16,455 --> 00:50:19,415
Speaker 4: I'm really interested in getting him to give me a

861
00:50:19,495 --> 00:50:23,295
Speaker 4: genuine opinion about these hornets that have arrived in Auckland

862
00:50:23,455 --> 00:50:26,015
Speaker 4: and whether or not the sort of citizen science thing.

863
00:50:26,295 --> 00:50:31,095
Speaker 4: Because the Internet seemingly is flooded with solutions for making traps.

864
00:50:31,295 --> 00:50:33,335
Speaker 4: Will that make a difference, That's what I want to know,

865
00:50:33,375 --> 00:50:35,735
Speaker 4: because if it is, and if it's a sensible thing

866
00:50:35,775 --> 00:50:37,895
Speaker 4: for us to do, that's on my job list today.

867
00:50:38,655 --> 00:50:40,575
Speaker 4: To be fair, I actually went and bought some beer

868
00:50:40,775 --> 00:50:42,175
Speaker 4: just in case I have to make one of these

869
00:50:42,255 --> 00:50:44,695
Speaker 4: traps this week. That's the only reason I bought it.

870
00:50:45,455 --> 00:50:48,855
Speaker 4: Heather greetings, Yes, good morning, Pete.

871
00:50:50,855 --> 00:50:52,815
Speaker 12: My daughter was supposed to ring you, but I don't know.

872
00:50:53,575 --> 00:50:55,095
Speaker 12: I think she's still asleep.

873
00:50:56,735 --> 00:51:00,775
Speaker 4: Fair enough to How can I help who?

874
00:51:00,815 --> 00:51:03,495
Speaker 12: And how how have you been looking to buy a house?

875
00:51:03,815 --> 00:51:04,135
Speaker 8: Yes?

876
00:51:04,815 --> 00:51:10,095
Speaker 12: And apparently the the garage that was attached to the

877
00:51:10,135 --> 00:51:15,735
Speaker 12: house has been converted into another living space, yep. And

878
00:51:15,775 --> 00:51:21,575
Speaker 12: they were they asked about a code of compliance, yes,

879
00:51:22,775 --> 00:51:26,735
Speaker 12: and it would appear that they haven't got one because

880
00:51:26,775 --> 00:51:29,055
Speaker 12: they said, well, if you will want that, you're going

881
00:51:29,095 --> 00:51:33,175
Speaker 12: to have to go through the lawyer n request. So

882
00:51:33,975 --> 00:51:34,615
Speaker 12: is that correct?

883
00:51:34,775 --> 00:51:39,535
Speaker 4: Or okay, let's go back a couple of steps. Roughly

884
00:51:39,615 --> 00:51:42,655
Speaker 4: how old is the house I.

885
00:51:42,655 --> 00:51:46,815
Speaker 12: Don't know, but the conversion was done early two thousands apparently.

886
00:51:46,975 --> 00:51:49,935
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, So the conversions was done at the

887
00:51:50,335 --> 00:51:54,575
Speaker 4: time when the current Building Act was in place. So

888
00:51:54,695 --> 00:51:58,055
Speaker 4: the reason I ask about I suppose on the council

889
00:51:58,135 --> 00:52:01,815
Speaker 4: file there will be a record possibly of the original

890
00:52:01,935 --> 00:52:04,815
Speaker 4: either building permit or building consent, and it will show

891
00:52:05,135 --> 00:52:07,855
Speaker 4: on there that it's a let's say it's a three

892
00:52:07,895 --> 00:52:13,615
Speaker 4: bedroom house with an attached garage, right, And then in

893
00:52:13,655 --> 00:52:17,255
Speaker 4: some time between when that original building permit or consent

894
00:52:17,375 --> 00:52:20,815
Speaker 4: was issued and today, the garage has gone from being

895
00:52:20,815 --> 00:52:25,215
Speaker 4: a garage into a essentially habitable space. They turned it

896
00:52:25,255 --> 00:52:28,215
Speaker 4: into a living room I presume, or a lounge ything.

897
00:52:30,215 --> 00:52:34,695
Speaker 4: In doing that, have they for example, removed the garage

898
00:52:34,735 --> 00:52:37,055
Speaker 4: door and put in a window or a ranch slider.

899
00:52:37,895 --> 00:52:45,775
Speaker 12: I don't know, Okay, so obviously she's there's been something

900
00:52:45,935 --> 00:52:51,055
Speaker 12: there for her to ask, yes compliance, maybe they put

901
00:52:51,095 --> 00:52:56,535
Speaker 12: in a ranch slider or double doors or I don't know.

902
00:52:57,015 --> 00:52:59,495
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it was interesting because I actually did some

903
00:52:59,575 --> 00:53:01,495
Speaker 4: reading on this the other day because one of the

904
00:53:01,495 --> 00:53:04,615
Speaker 4: phrases we would often I would often use, and I've

905
00:53:04,615 --> 00:53:07,535
Speaker 4: heard use quite a bit is change of use, right,

906
00:53:07,615 --> 00:53:10,855
Speaker 4: and the change of use from a not a habitable

907
00:53:10,895 --> 00:53:14,975
Speaker 4: space into a habitable space requires a building consent. It's

908
00:53:15,055 --> 00:53:17,975
Speaker 4: not actually about change of use. And the Orgland Council

909
00:53:18,055 --> 00:53:21,375
Speaker 4: document that I was reading specifically states there is no

910
00:53:21,495 --> 00:53:25,855
Speaker 4: requirement for a change of use, but when you change

911
00:53:25,975 --> 00:53:28,975
Speaker 4: our garage into a habitable space in order for the

912
00:53:29,015 --> 00:53:33,695
Speaker 4: garage to comply with the building code. So often garages

913
00:53:33,695 --> 00:53:37,575
Speaker 4: are not insulated, right, so that we tend to even

914
00:53:37,615 --> 00:53:41,935
Speaker 4: if they're attached to the house. Most developers builders won't

915
00:53:41,975 --> 00:53:45,895
Speaker 4: insulate them. They'll just insulate the petition and across. So

916
00:53:46,415 --> 00:53:49,135
Speaker 4: if all you do to that garage is line it

917
00:53:49,735 --> 00:53:52,615
Speaker 4: and so on and it doesn't have insulation, that means

918
00:53:52,655 --> 00:53:54,615
Speaker 4: it doesn't comply with the building code in terms of

919
00:53:54,695 --> 00:53:55,575
Speaker 4: a habitable space.

920
00:53:55,815 --> 00:54:00,135
Speaker 12: Yea, this is I think this is where question comes in.

921
00:54:00,575 --> 00:54:04,015
Speaker 12: The Other thing is if the people.

922
00:54:03,815 --> 00:54:06,975
Speaker 4: Who are selling the house, if they did the work well,

923
00:54:07,015 --> 00:54:12,255
Speaker 4: they have inherited it right, they own it. So if

924
00:54:12,255 --> 00:54:16,175
Speaker 4: they never applied for a building consent, they certainly won't

925
00:54:16,295 --> 00:54:20,575
Speaker 4: have a code compliance. You can't get a building a

926
00:54:20,615 --> 00:54:23,255
Speaker 4: code of compliance if you don't have a building consent.

927
00:54:25,215 --> 00:54:25,735
Speaker 12: The council.

928
00:54:26,015 --> 00:54:28,695
Speaker 4: If they go to the council and they request the limb,

929
00:54:28,775 --> 00:54:30,775
Speaker 4: as I would expect they would do, or their lawyer

930
00:54:30,775 --> 00:54:34,055
Speaker 4: would would do on their behalf, go through that. Look

931
00:54:34,175 --> 00:54:38,175
Speaker 4: for which what building consents and building permits are registered,

932
00:54:39,215 --> 00:54:43,415
Speaker 4: and then any building consent that is registered against the

933
00:54:43,415 --> 00:54:47,095
Speaker 4: property if it doesn't have and you read across and

934
00:54:47,135 --> 00:54:52,255
Speaker 4: it'll say CCC issued or no cc CCC issued. If

935
00:54:52,335 --> 00:54:55,335
Speaker 4: it says that. If there's a building consent that says

936
00:54:55,615 --> 00:55:01,575
Speaker 4: building consent to replace joinery, add insulation line, garage and

937
00:55:01,815 --> 00:55:05,495
Speaker 4: CCC is issued, great, If it says building consent and

938
00:55:05,535 --> 00:55:10,015
Speaker 4: no CCC issued, that's a bit of a challenge because

939
00:55:11,015 --> 00:55:13,615
Speaker 4: I used to have an opinion where I'd go, look,

940
00:55:13,655 --> 00:55:15,895
Speaker 4: you know what, you could always buy the property at

941
00:55:15,895 --> 00:55:18,175
Speaker 4: a price that you're happy with, and then you go

942
00:55:18,215 --> 00:55:23,335
Speaker 4: and sort out the CCC. Later, I've stopped advising that

943
00:55:23,455 --> 00:55:30,055
Speaker 4: because it can be a terribly tortuous process to get

944
00:55:30,575 --> 00:55:33,775
Speaker 4: expensive and expensive and you just don't know whether you're

945
00:55:33,815 --> 00:55:36,855
Speaker 4: going to get one. So in those instances, my general

946
00:55:36,935 --> 00:55:39,935
Speaker 4: advice is, yes, you can choose to do that, but

947
00:55:40,095 --> 00:55:45,975
Speaker 4: do so knowingly, right and fully informed. Or if there's

948
00:55:46,215 --> 00:55:49,575
Speaker 4: a building consent that didn't get a CCC, you put

949
00:55:49,575 --> 00:55:52,415
Speaker 4: the pressure back on the vendor to get it before

950
00:55:52,455 --> 00:55:55,335
Speaker 4: you settle, and you make it a condition of the settlement,

951
00:55:56,215 --> 00:55:58,415
Speaker 4: because they can be difficult.

952
00:55:59,255 --> 00:56:02,575
Speaker 12: I thinkin this is why it hasn't sold, because people

953
00:56:02,575 --> 00:56:06,975
Speaker 12: have been interested that yep, nobody you know speaking.

954
00:56:06,735 --> 00:56:11,215
Speaker 4: That's why banks are increasingly reluctant to let you know.

955
00:56:11,495 --> 00:56:14,815
Speaker 4: They tend to ask a lot more questions. If something

956
00:56:14,855 --> 00:56:18,335
Speaker 4: like this is on the limb, insurers might ask a

957
00:56:18,335 --> 00:56:22,735
Speaker 4: few questions. It's just a little bit trickier now than

958
00:56:23,015 --> 00:56:25,735
Speaker 4: it used to be. The other thing, too, is that

959
00:56:25,855 --> 00:56:30,095
Speaker 4: let's say there's no record on the council file of

960
00:56:31,095 --> 00:56:34,095
Speaker 4: the garage not being a garage but being a living

961
00:56:34,095 --> 00:56:39,815
Speaker 4: space now, then the only way to sort of make

962
00:56:39,895 --> 00:56:43,575
Speaker 4: it compliant or to formalize that is to request a

963
00:56:43,615 --> 00:56:49,095
Speaker 4: code Certificate of acceptance a CoA. Again, council's attitude to

964
00:56:49,135 --> 00:56:54,815
Speaker 4: this has shifted dramatically, and so the burden of proof,

965
00:56:54,895 --> 00:56:58,055
Speaker 4: let's say, is almost the equivalent as if you were

966
00:56:58,095 --> 00:57:02,615
Speaker 4: getting a building consent for it. So back in the day,

967
00:57:03,215 --> 00:57:05,495
Speaker 4: council inspector would come out, they'd do a safe and

968
00:57:05,535 --> 00:57:08,855
Speaker 4: sanitary right, is it going to fall down if I

969
00:57:08,855 --> 00:57:12,695
Speaker 4: flush the toilet the poos go downhill? It used to

970
00:57:12,735 --> 00:57:16,255
Speaker 4: be as simple as that. It's not anymore. So most

971
00:57:16,295 --> 00:57:18,695
Speaker 4: councilors now will say, okay, you need to prove to

972
00:57:18,735 --> 00:57:21,615
Speaker 4: me that the building is compliant. Now that's beyond most

973
00:57:21,655 --> 00:57:24,375
Speaker 4: people's ability to do. So you tend to end up

974
00:57:24,415 --> 00:57:28,135
Speaker 4: going to a building surveyor who comes out. They might say, well,

975
00:57:28,135 --> 00:57:30,415
Speaker 4: look I can't tell. So I'm going to ask you

976
00:57:30,455 --> 00:57:32,575
Speaker 4: to remove some lining. I'm going to ask you to

977
00:57:32,615 --> 00:57:35,335
Speaker 4: expose that beam. I'm going to want to see how

978
00:57:35,335 --> 00:57:38,655
Speaker 4: the flashings are done, et cetera, et cetera. Then they

979
00:57:38,695 --> 00:57:41,175
Speaker 4: will write a statement on your behalf. But you know

980
00:57:41,375 --> 00:57:45,535
Speaker 4: it's time and money and possibly quite a bit of both,

981
00:57:45,775 --> 00:57:50,055
Speaker 4: So doesn't mean they can't buy it. Just buy it

982
00:57:50,135 --> 00:57:59,015
Speaker 4: with your eyes wide open. Yeah, okay, good on you

983
00:57:59,095 --> 00:58:00,895
Speaker 4: for calling on bath of your daughter. I hope she

984
00:58:00,935 --> 00:58:02,695
Speaker 4: has a good sleeper. All right, you take care of

985
00:58:03,015 --> 00:58:06,135
Speaker 4: all of us by then. Ah classic oh, eight hundred

986
00:58:06,295 --> 00:58:09,055
Speaker 4: eighty is the number to call if you've got a

987
00:58:09,135 --> 00:58:11,455
Speaker 4: question of a building nature, give us a call. Love

988
00:58:11,495 --> 00:58:15,095
Speaker 4: to chat with you this morning. It is seven forty

989
00:58:15,215 --> 00:58:17,375
Speaker 4: there you got just ticked over bang on seven forty

990
00:58:17,695 --> 00:58:18,295
Speaker 4: measure twice.

991
00:58:18,775 --> 00:58:22,015
Speaker 1: God was but maybe call Pete first, feed your wolfcaf

992
00:58:22,175 --> 00:58:24,215
Speaker 1: the resident builder News Talk said b.

993
00:58:24,615 --> 00:58:27,815
Speaker 4: This morning, I'm joined by Dwayne Cameron from frank House,

994
00:58:27,855 --> 00:58:31,055
Speaker 4: a company that is redefining how houses are built in

995
00:58:31,095 --> 00:58:36,015
Speaker 4: New Zealand through precision made, prefabricated panels. Key product in

996
00:58:36,055 --> 00:58:40,575
Speaker 4: their system is Jayframe High Performance LVL framing that's helping

997
00:58:40,615 --> 00:58:44,615
Speaker 4: builders work faster, smarter, and with a lot less waste.

998
00:58:44,855 --> 00:58:48,055
Speaker 4: Frank House approach is all about efficiency and innovation. The

999
00:58:48,135 --> 00:58:52,935
Speaker 4: panels built using Jayframe and advanced German machinery arrive ready

1000
00:58:52,935 --> 00:58:56,695
Speaker 4: to install, cutting down build time, reducing site mess, and

1001
00:58:56,775 --> 00:58:59,935
Speaker 4: helping keep costs under control. It's a smarter way to

1002
00:58:59,975 --> 00:59:03,695
Speaker 4: build and it's really gaining momentum in the industry. Dwaine,

1003
00:59:03,735 --> 00:59:05,295
Speaker 4: thanks very much for your time this morning.

1004
00:59:05,935 --> 00:59:07,015
Speaker 8: Nice last aspect to you.

1005
00:59:07,295 --> 00:59:08,575
Speaker 4: Yeah, great to talk to you too.

1006
00:59:08,775 --> 00:59:08,975
Speaker 8: Hey.

1007
00:59:08,975 --> 00:59:11,975
Speaker 4: Now, builders are always looking for ways to same time

1008
00:59:12,135 --> 00:59:15,615
Speaker 4: and reduce hassle on site. So how does jframe help

1009
00:59:15,735 --> 00:59:19,535
Speaker 4: you making these panels streamline the construction process.

1010
00:59:19,975 --> 00:59:22,455
Speaker 8: Well, it's a lot straighter than the standard timber, and

1011
00:59:22,495 --> 00:59:25,695
Speaker 8: dimensionally it's very correct, so there's a lot less straightening

1012
00:59:25,695 --> 00:59:29,535
Speaker 8: and buzzing on site or in our sort of case,

1013
00:59:29,615 --> 00:59:33,815
Speaker 8: off site. It's also with being an ALVL timber or

1014
00:59:33,855 --> 00:59:36,655
Speaker 8: laminated a timber, we can spand further, which means we

1015
00:59:36,695 --> 00:59:38,415
Speaker 8: can put lest timber in our walls or in our

1016
00:59:38,495 --> 00:59:41,575
Speaker 8: root cassets and flour cassettes, which is obviously a saving

1017
00:59:41,855 --> 00:59:43,615
Speaker 8: and also better for themal performance.

1018
00:59:44,335 --> 00:59:47,255
Speaker 4: Now, are there particular types of builds or projects where

1019
00:59:47,255 --> 00:59:50,295
Speaker 4: the jayframe has really shined or is it? There's tile

1020
00:59:50,415 --> 00:59:53,055
Speaker 4: enough for pretty much every residential and commercial job.

1021
00:59:53,735 --> 00:59:56,455
Speaker 8: It's first of all enough for any residential commercial job

1022
00:59:56,495 --> 00:59:59,775
Speaker 8: for sure, but in the off site sort of file

1023
00:59:59,815 --> 01:00:02,335
Speaker 8: of things that really does hold its own because it

1024
01:00:02,415 --> 01:00:05,255
Speaker 8: is so dimensionally correct. Yeah, and that's really important for

1025
01:00:05,295 --> 01:00:08,895
Speaker 8: us because I obviously using press tables and if we're

1026
01:00:09,015 --> 01:00:10,655
Speaker 8: three or four nights, I got a timbers three or

1027
01:00:10,655 --> 01:00:12,535
Speaker 8: four meals out it frowze our whole panel.

1028
01:00:13,375 --> 01:00:15,735
Speaker 4: And that's a tolerance that you know, if you're on

1029
01:00:15,815 --> 01:00:17,815
Speaker 4: site you kind of accept that, right, But in a

1030
01:00:18,415 --> 01:00:22,615
Speaker 4: prefabrication situation where you're integrating the timber with the machinery,

1031
01:00:22,895 --> 01:00:24,335
Speaker 4: the precision is everything.

1032
01:00:25,215 --> 01:00:28,215
Speaker 8: Yeah, we're sort of working within two to three meals

1033
01:00:28,255 --> 01:00:31,175
Speaker 8: over nine meters, so we're pretty accurate and we need

1034
01:00:31,215 --> 01:00:33,735
Speaker 8: to be otherwise when we put these panels on site,

1035
01:00:33,775 --> 01:00:34,895
Speaker 8: they don't fit so well.

1036
01:00:36,335 --> 01:00:39,015
Speaker 4: Now, what's the feedback that you're hearing from builders and

1037
01:00:39,095 --> 01:00:42,095
Speaker 4: other construction companies who have swapped across the jframe.

1038
01:00:43,655 --> 01:00:45,895
Speaker 8: From the feedback we've had that love it. I mean again,

1039
01:00:45,935 --> 01:00:48,695
Speaker 8: it's saving them time on site, which is what we're

1040
01:00:48,735 --> 01:00:52,415
Speaker 8: all about. They're not buzzing, they're not spending hours going

1041
01:00:52,415 --> 01:00:55,535
Speaker 8: around and knocking back nogs and doing things that are

1042
01:00:55,575 --> 01:00:59,215
Speaker 8: pretty much very hard to price. You're not actually making money,

1043
01:00:59,335 --> 01:01:01,775
Speaker 8: not losing money, which is a positive thing for our industry.

1044
01:01:01,935 --> 01:01:02,135
Speaker 10: Now.

1045
01:01:02,175 --> 01:01:04,975
Speaker 4: I was chatting with Liam, your duke and account manager,

1046
01:01:05,015 --> 01:01:06,855
Speaker 4: the other day and he was telling me that you

1047
01:01:06,895 --> 01:01:08,975
Speaker 4: work with Flexi House and I know those guys and

1048
01:01:08,975 --> 01:01:11,695
Speaker 4: Andre and the team. How does what's that connection there?

1049
01:01:12,455 --> 01:01:17,055
Speaker 8: Well, Flexi House, we probably supply their panel, and they

1050
01:01:17,055 --> 01:01:20,655
Speaker 8: have basically come up with an engineered system that gets

1051
01:01:20,695 --> 01:01:23,455
Speaker 8: us sort of weather tight and lockable in days rather

1052
01:01:23,495 --> 01:01:28,495
Speaker 8: than weeks. They can span up to sort of six

1053
01:01:28,575 --> 01:01:32,455
Speaker 8: meters wide, not for fourteen meters long. Wow, fully in

1054
01:01:32,575 --> 01:01:37,295
Speaker 8: the panels come fully insulated with windows in and set

1055
01:01:37,335 --> 01:01:41,095
Speaker 8: as cavities. That's a high performance panel. Yes, So not

1056
01:01:41,135 --> 01:01:44,575
Speaker 8: only is it sort of saving time and money, it's

1057
01:01:44,655 --> 01:01:48,015
Speaker 8: also producing a product that's of a very high performance,

1058
01:01:48,055 --> 01:01:50,975
Speaker 8: which is great to live in, cheap to run, cheap

1059
01:01:51,015 --> 01:01:54,295
Speaker 8: to heat, cheap to call. And also by using LVL

1060
01:01:54,375 --> 01:01:55,295
Speaker 8: with the Flexi.

1061
01:01:55,055 --> 01:01:59,255
Speaker 13: System or jframe with a Flexi system, we're able to

1062
01:01:59,295 --> 01:02:01,655
Speaker 13: eliminate a lot of additional timber that we would normally

1063
01:02:01,655 --> 01:02:05,815
Speaker 13: put in four So again that's great for thermal bridging

1064
01:02:06,375 --> 01:02:07,095
Speaker 13: and also great for.

1065
01:02:07,135 --> 01:02:10,055
Speaker 8: Costs because there's less tumber in the wall. Just one

1066
01:02:10,135 --> 01:02:13,135
Speaker 8: win win, it sure is. What's just and what it

1067
01:02:13,215 --> 01:02:16,455
Speaker 8: does allow for builders is that rather than feacing their

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Speaker 8: labor costs about to do more, they can keep their

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Speaker 8: labor at the same and still do do more because

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Speaker 8: they're not spending so many hours on site.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, it's a win for everybody. I think in

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Speaker 8: the next little while we're really sort of see it

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Speaker 8: take off.

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Speaker 4: I would imagine, yeah, oh look it's moving in it.

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Speaker 4: You know. By contrast when I started almost forty years

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Speaker 4: ago to what we're able to do today, it's radically different.

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Speaker 4: People will want to know more about Frank House. How

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Speaker 4: do they find you?

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Speaker 8: The best thing is to give me a call on

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Speaker 8: two one four four seven, five six eight or suck

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Speaker 8: us an email at Dwayne at frank House dot co

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Speaker 8: dot z.

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Speaker 4: That's awesome. Really appreciate your time this morning, Dwayne, Thank you,

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Speaker 4: thank you. And now, if you're building or renovating, you

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Speaker 4: want a quality finish, you need to start with a

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Speaker 4: quality start. So check out Jframe Jane l co dot

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Speaker 4: nz viewing.

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Speaker 1: Of the house storting the garden asked Pete for a

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Speaker 1: hand the resident builder with Peter Wolfcap call eighty eight news.

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Speaker 1: Dogs'd be all righty Oh what's.

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Speaker 4: On your mind? Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty

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Speaker 4: is the number, Jenny, Good.

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Speaker 10: Morning, Good morning, Pete. I don't have a house. It's

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Speaker 10: very basic, built in the late sixties. Yes, the previous

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Speaker 10: owners in the seventies of some sage. Not a part

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01:03:32,975 --> 01:03:36,615
Speaker 10: of the hall, part of a hallway out and put

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Speaker 10: it into the lounge. Now when I come to sell that,

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Speaker 10: am I going to have a problem because they wouldn't

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Speaker 10: have needed a building content back then.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think most and I know I'm sounding

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Speaker 4: particularly cautious around us. It's I think most of the

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Speaker 4: concern is around projects that people know in the last

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Speaker 4: let's say thirty years should have had a building consent

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Speaker 4: but didn't or did get a building concent but never

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Speaker 4: got the CCC attached to it. So something like this,

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Speaker 4: where it's much older, you'd look at that and go, Okay,

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Speaker 4: what's the real impact on that building? You know, to

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Speaker 4: be fair, if they took out a wall and it

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Speaker 4: meant that the building was unsafe forty years ago, if

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Speaker 4: it was going to be a problem, you would have

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Speaker 4: noticed by now, right. So I look at it and go,

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Speaker 4: how does it perform? Well, Chances are people knew what

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Speaker 4: they were doing back then. They might have taken a

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Speaker 4: wall out, they put a beam in. It hasn't fallen down.

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Speaker 4: It's not likely to go and fall down now. So

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Speaker 4: you know, if I was looking at it with a

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Speaker 4: potential buyer, I'd just go, you know, it hasn't failed

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Speaker 4: I don't think you need to be worried, and I

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Speaker 4: don't think counsel are overly concerned about that type of

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Speaker 4: thing either.

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Speaker 10: Okay, that's fine.

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Speaker 4: Thanks true broadly speaking, thank you, Okay, all the best

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Speaker 4: of you, Good luck. Sorry. I don't mean to get

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Speaker 4: everyone freaking out about things that are sort of non

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Speaker 4: compliant in their houses or that sort of situation. It's

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Speaker 4: not even about non compliance. I mean, that's what happened

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Speaker 4: years ago. People would take out a wall and you know,

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Speaker 4: if you did it in the house didn't fall down

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Speaker 4: forty years later, chances are it's okay, George, good morning morning.

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Speaker 7: Last week, last week you had a whole other session

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Speaker 7: on Branni Flett. Yes there or not there was going

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Speaker 7: to be rapable.

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Speaker 4: Yep, they are going to be ratable.

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Speaker 7: I rung up the local borough of City council to

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Speaker 7: define what I was talking to. Yes, and I asked

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Speaker 7: them the same question and they gave me two answers.

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Speaker 7: One was, are you going to connect to the toilet

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Speaker 7: sewage system of the property that goes to the council system. Yep,

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Speaker 7: if you do it, it's ratable. Are you if it's

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Speaker 7: going to go into a sixty tank and not to

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Speaker 7: the council system like on a farm, it won't be rapable.

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Speaker 7: Is the water supply to the unit being connected, which

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Speaker 7: is being supplied by the council. That means it becomes ratable.

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01:06:06,975 --> 01:06:10,655
Speaker 7: The sop the soft your pink on the house not

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Speaker 7: being provided by the council, it's not rapable.

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Speaker 5: So that's okay.

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Speaker 4: That and there's there's a real straightforward logic to that,

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Speaker 4: which is great.

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01:06:20,015 --> 01:06:24,215
Speaker 7: Yes, well, the councils providing services to the unit. Therefore

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Speaker 7: it becomes a rapable unit part of the property and

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01:06:26,735 --> 01:06:27,335
Speaker 7: part of the rapes.

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Speaker 4: The other thing, and thank you for doing that research

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Speaker 4: because you know that's yeah, that's a really good and

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01:06:36,935 --> 01:06:40,055
Speaker 4: straightforward insight into it. The other thing that's part of

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Speaker 4: this process of engaging with counsel because one of the

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Speaker 4: concerns that I've had, and certainly that that people like

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Speaker 4: the New Zealand's Due of Building surveyors and sign have had,

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Speaker 4: is that much of the way in which this information

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Speaker 4: has been presented tends to imply that there's no rules,

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Speaker 4: right because you need it, you don't may not need

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Speaker 4: a building consent, therefore there's no rules. That's not the case, right,

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Speaker 4: it's a million miles from that. There is still going

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Speaker 4: to be requirement. Obviously, you need to build it in

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Speaker 4: according to the building code. You're still going to have

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Speaker 4: to get it designed. You're going to have to get

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Speaker 4: it the engineered. Da da da da da da da.

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Speaker 4: The other thing is that what I would be interested

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Speaker 4: to know is whether or not when you put together

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Speaker 4: your perm and go to the council and say I'm

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Speaker 4: going to build this building. Let's say you put your

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Speaker 4: rain water into a tank and you put your wastewater

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Speaker 4: into a septic tank so it doesn't become ratable, it

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Speaker 4: may still trigger a development reserve or reserve development fee, right,

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Speaker 4: so councilor might still take a bite.

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Speaker 7: Yes, so I know people are going to go two ways.

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Speaker 7: One is that going to go, oh dear, how is

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Speaker 7: this going to affect me? I will go to the

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Speaker 7: council and find out that's the number one rule. Yes,

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Speaker 7: Second one, I'll build it anyway and let them find

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Speaker 7: out later.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know when they're going to find out

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01:08:02,695 --> 01:08:03,935
Speaker 4: when people go and sell.

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Speaker 7: Them, Yes, and there that would be the interesting thing.

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Speaker 7: And would they backright you for not having complied initially

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Speaker 7: to the fact that you are connected.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, and I'll tell you what. There's actually a

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Speaker 4: couple of other issues that are starting to emerge around

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Speaker 4: this as well. I won't go into it right now,

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Speaker 4: but we will pack this up straight after eight o'clock

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Speaker 4: as well. Great to have you company this morning. You

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Speaker 4: with Pete wolf Camp here at News Talk CP. We've

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01:08:30,375 --> 01:08:42,655
Speaker 4: got news at eight o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Whether you're painting the ceiling, fixing the fence, or wondering

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01:08:58,455 --> 01:09:00,535
Speaker 1: how to fix that hole in the wall. Give Peter

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01:09:00,615 --> 01:09:05,175
Speaker 1: wolf Camper call on eighty the resident builder on News

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01:09:05,255 --> 01:09:06,695
Speaker 1: Talks B Radio.

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Speaker 4: Exciting times ahead, Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 4: We've talked about the formula one actually myself in lock

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Speaker 4: during the break, but lots of exciting things happening and

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01:09:14,935 --> 01:09:17,815
Speaker 4: building as well, so we can talk about that, and

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01:09:17,815 --> 01:09:20,055
Speaker 4: then lots and lots and lots of talk about the

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Speaker 4: whole building compliance, which will continue to talk about probably

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Speaker 4: for quite a long time on the show. But also

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Speaker 4: around the proposed changes, so the granny flat or simple

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01:09:32,735 --> 01:09:36,935
Speaker 4: standalone dwelling. The legislation's passed, but it's not active right

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Speaker 4: so you can't start building them now. And also number

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Speaker 4: of conversations I've had in the last couple of weeks

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Speaker 4: where people have said, you know, it seems like the

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Speaker 4: way in which it's been presented as there will be

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Speaker 4: no rules, and that's just not the case.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: There's still a whole lot of requirements around who you

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01:09:56,735 --> 01:09:58,775
Speaker 4: have to tell, where you can build it, how you

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01:09:58,815 --> 01:10:01,175
Speaker 4: have to build it, et cetera, et cetera. So it

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01:10:01,255 --> 01:10:04,135
Speaker 4: really shouldn't be seen as a carte blanche to go

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Speaker 4: and whack up seventy square meters in your back yard,

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01:10:06,615 --> 01:10:09,335
Speaker 4: because that's definitely not the case. Well, we see some

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01:10:09,415 --> 01:10:13,655
Speaker 4: of it. Yeah, probably before the news we were talking about,

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Speaker 4: you know, the risk perhaps of either purchasing a property

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Speaker 4: where you have been made aware that there are some

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01:10:20,935 --> 01:10:23,495
Speaker 4: defects in the sense of work that was done that

1223
01:10:23,775 --> 01:10:26,175
Speaker 4: maybe did get a building consent but didn't get signed off,

1224
01:10:26,215 --> 01:10:28,975
Speaker 4: didn't get the CCC, work that should have had a

1225
01:10:28,975 --> 01:10:31,615
Speaker 4: building consent but didn't get one, and then what do

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Speaker 4: you do about that? And this text has come through

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Speaker 4: Pete Sadley, the insurers and the banks don't see non

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Speaker 4: compliance in the same way as you. I mentioned about

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Speaker 4: a wall coming out. I had a non load bearing

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Speaker 4: NIB wall and the removal of a fireplace on the

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Speaker 4: external wall that was replaced by French doors nineteen eight

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Speaker 4: ninety ninety one, respectively. And yet we lost three to

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Speaker 4: four buyers because of this greatest respect to the text,

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Speaker 4: I mean taking out a chimney and replacing it with

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Speaker 4: a set of doors, so there was no opening there

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Speaker 4: before that work would have required a building consent, And

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Speaker 4: whoever did work, even in nineteen ninety one probably would

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01:11:08,655 --> 01:11:15,095
Speaker 4: have known that, you know, I mean, there's yeah like

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01:11:15,175 --> 01:11:18,935
Speaker 4: that sort of thing. Wouldn't surprise me that someone would

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01:11:18,975 --> 01:11:21,015
Speaker 4: pick that up and go, well, hang on. The original

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01:11:21,095 --> 01:11:23,935
Speaker 4: plan showed a chimney. Now the chimney's gone. There's a

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Speaker 4: set of French doors there. Did they get a consent

1243
01:11:26,255 --> 01:11:28,975
Speaker 4: for that? No, they didn't. What I was talking about

1244
01:11:29,055 --> 01:11:32,095
Speaker 4: is you know a section of wall or internal petition

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01:11:32,455 --> 01:11:35,855
Speaker 4: that can be determined to be non load bearing removed

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01:11:35,855 --> 01:11:37,975
Speaker 4: without a consent? Is that low risk?

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01:11:38,255 --> 01:11:38,455
Speaker 8: Yes?

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01:11:38,455 --> 01:11:41,895
Speaker 4: It is taking out a chimney replacing with some doors

1249
01:11:41,895 --> 01:11:44,735
Speaker 4: and windows exterior envelope da da da da da. Is

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Speaker 4: that a risk? Yes it is. Therefore it needs a consent.

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Speaker 4: Oh W eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty the

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Speaker 4: number to call Natalia. Good morning, Good morning, Pete.

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Speaker 14: How are you very well?

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Speaker 4: Thank you? How are you very good?

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Speaker 14: Thank you. I've just got a couple of questions in

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Speaker 14: relation to a kitchen renovation. Sure, I have a very

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Speaker 14: small galley kitchen. The length is two point two meters

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Speaker 14: and the wood is two meters. The kitchen cabinet tree

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Speaker 14: would be probably nineteen sixties, nineteen seventies, yes, And the

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Speaker 14: benches are very narrow. On one side, the bench is

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Speaker 14: only forty four centimeters.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I know exactly what you mean, yep.

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Speaker 14: And on the other side it's fifty one centimeters, which

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Speaker 14: means currently I have floor space that I can walk

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Speaker 14: in one hundred and twenty three centimeters. But if I

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Speaker 14: modernize the kitchen and get this current standard benches, which

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Speaker 14: I think are six hundred and six, yeah, six hundred,

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Speaker 14: it means that my floor space is going to be

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Speaker 14: reduced to eighty five centimeters. Is that an issue? What

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Speaker 14: I need to know is is there any minimum requirement

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Speaker 14: for walking space in a galley kitchen.

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Speaker 4: That's a great question. I don't know that there's any

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Speaker 4: minimum requirement, but you would you would look at that

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Speaker 4: and go, you know, eighty five centimeters from bench top

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Speaker 4: to bench top. I mean that's like walking through a door, right,

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Speaker 4: you know, a reasonably whye door would be that equivalent,

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Speaker 4: and that to be fair, it doesn't feel like a

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Speaker 4: lot of space, does it.

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Speaker 14: Well, it probably doesn't. And at the moment the kitchen

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Speaker 14: works well. But I've only got two appliances in the kitchen.

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Speaker 14: One's a stove and the other of fridge, and they

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Speaker 14: both protrude the benches, but they're at the end of

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Speaker 14: the benches, so they're not in the middle or anything.

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Speaker 14: But I would like to add a dishwasher.

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Speaker 4: Yes, which you need.

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Speaker 14: The six under in the middle of the benches. Yeah,

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Speaker 14: And I'm wondering if that's going to be an issue.

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Speaker 4: Are you thinking about removing all of your existing cabinets

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01:13:52,695 --> 01:13:58,055
Speaker 4: and having them replaced with modern cabinatry, and are you

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Speaker 4: going to let's say, a bespoke cabinet maker to have

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Speaker 4: them made, because probably a little bit challenging to buy

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01:14:05,615 --> 01:14:10,255
Speaker 4: that to do those actually could do you do it?

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01:14:11,375 --> 01:14:11,495
Speaker 8: Now?

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01:14:11,855 --> 01:14:15,215
Speaker 14: I'll tell you what, just just just getting standard cabinetry

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01:14:15,335 --> 01:14:17,735
Speaker 14: rather than having it made, because I just want to

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Speaker 14: keep costs down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, sure, I'll tell you just because I'm kind

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01:14:22,695 --> 01:14:25,415
Speaker 4: of intrigued by this. I did a not a similar

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01:14:25,415 --> 01:14:28,175
Speaker 4: one a little while ago, but I had more space, right,

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01:14:28,295 --> 01:14:32,095
Speaker 4: So it was the classic four fifty deep cabinetry on

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01:14:32,135 --> 01:14:34,815
Speaker 4: both sides. We ripped that out or replaced the cabinetry,

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01:14:34,855 --> 01:14:38,375
Speaker 4: but I had more space in between. I'm just wondering whether,

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01:14:38,575 --> 01:14:45,135
Speaker 4: in your instance, if you kind of you've got an

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01:14:45,135 --> 01:14:47,175
Speaker 4: open space, right once you take all the cabinets out,

1305
01:14:47,175 --> 01:14:50,615
Speaker 4: you've got an open space. Could you have six hundred

1306
01:14:50,615 --> 01:14:53,495
Speaker 4: wide cabinetry on one side and that's where you put

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01:14:53,535 --> 01:14:57,575
Speaker 4: your appliances, so your dishwasher, you're under bench oven, that

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01:14:57,615 --> 01:15:00,015
Speaker 4: sort of thing which needs that depth. And on the

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01:15:00,135 --> 01:15:03,775
Speaker 4: other side, do you need two bench tops or two

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01:15:03,815 --> 01:15:06,695
Speaker 4: bench surfaces to work on? Could you survive and kitchen

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01:15:06,735 --> 01:15:07,375
Speaker 4: with just one?

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Speaker 14: I don't think so.

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01:15:10,815 --> 01:15:12,335
Speaker 4: Okay, no, that's fair enough because the.

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Speaker 14: Room isn't very long. It's only two point two meters

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01:15:16,735 --> 01:15:18,055
Speaker 14: in a stove, et cetera.

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01:15:18,255 --> 01:15:20,055
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got no prep space.

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01:15:19,935 --> 01:15:20,775
Speaker 14: Got less space.

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01:15:20,975 --> 01:15:26,095
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I get that. I suppose we're What I

1319
01:15:26,135 --> 01:15:28,895
Speaker 4: was thinking is, would you do benches on one side

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01:15:29,015 --> 01:15:32,495
Speaker 4: and storage cabinetry on the other, But you could make

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01:15:32,535 --> 01:15:34,175
Speaker 4: that a bit thinner that would give you a bit

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01:15:34,215 --> 01:15:36,775
Speaker 4: more space in between, but then you're left with not

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01:15:36,975 --> 01:15:40,535
Speaker 4: much bench at all, and it's got to be a

1324
01:15:40,575 --> 01:15:43,175
Speaker 4: galley kitchen because there's openings at both ends.

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Speaker 8: Of the room.

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01:15:43,935 --> 01:15:44,375
Speaker 14: Correct.

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01:15:48,655 --> 01:15:51,015
Speaker 4: I suppose your other option is to take the six

1328
01:15:51,095 --> 01:15:54,535
Speaker 4: hundred on one side, But maybe if you're going to

1329
01:15:54,575 --> 01:15:57,695
Speaker 4: have it made for you, you could say, well, look my

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01:15:57,815 --> 01:16:00,415
Speaker 4: bench on the other side. Instead of going to six hundred.

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01:16:00,975 --> 01:16:03,055
Speaker 4: If I went to five hundred on one side and

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01:16:03,055 --> 01:16:05,215
Speaker 4: six hundred on the other, that would gain you an

1333
01:16:05,215 --> 01:16:08,455
Speaker 4: extra hundred millimeters. And I think the difference between eighty

1334
01:16:08,495 --> 01:16:11,895
Speaker 4: six and ninety six, you know, it's a large It's

1335
01:16:11,895 --> 01:16:13,895
Speaker 4: a lot of space given that you don't have much,

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Speaker 4: So I would I would play with that.

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Speaker 14: Idea, be five hundred wide would need to be custom made,

1338
01:16:19,055 --> 01:16:21,495
Speaker 14: where the six hundred would be standard.

1339
01:16:21,975 --> 01:16:24,855
Speaker 4: Yeah, But to be fair, you'll find that not many

1340
01:16:24,935 --> 01:16:28,855
Speaker 4: things are actually completely standard these days, and the ability

1341
01:16:28,895 --> 01:16:33,495
Speaker 4: of companies to manufacture non standard isn't actually that difficult

1342
01:16:33,535 --> 01:16:36,415
Speaker 4: nowadays either, So I don't know that.

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Speaker 14: I think if I go somewhere like Bumbings or place

1344
01:16:41,815 --> 01:16:44,655
Speaker 14: Makers or somewhere like that for my kitchen, they don't

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01:16:44,695 --> 01:16:46,495
Speaker 14: deviate from the standards.

1346
01:16:46,655 --> 01:16:49,095
Speaker 4: Yeah maybe, look at you do it.

1347
01:16:50,935 --> 01:16:51,135
Speaker 14: Right.

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01:16:54,295 --> 01:16:56,055
Speaker 4: Yeah, that might be an option too.

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Speaker 14: Okay, all right, you check that out. Okay, I've just

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01:17:02,255 --> 01:17:04,135
Speaker 14: got a couple of other questions. If I want to

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01:17:04,175 --> 01:17:07,375
Speaker 14: add a dishwashers, that's going to require council consent.

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01:17:08,415 --> 01:17:16,095
Speaker 4: Oh, very good question. No, I'm going to say no,

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01:17:16,455 --> 01:17:20,695
Speaker 4: because you've already got a sink, right, So what you're

1354
01:17:20,695 --> 01:17:25,175
Speaker 4: doing is simply plumbing your dishwasher into the sink, because

1355
01:17:25,215 --> 01:17:28,655
Speaker 4: you just change the fitting underneath the bowl to one

1356
01:17:28,655 --> 01:17:31,695
Speaker 4: with a spigot on and you plug the dishwasher into there.

1357
01:17:31,735 --> 01:17:33,175
Speaker 4: So I'm going to say no, you don't need a

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01:17:33,215 --> 01:17:33,775
Speaker 4: consent for that.

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01:17:34,815 --> 01:17:38,055
Speaker 14: Okay, that's lovely, and currently because I want to keep

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01:17:38,135 --> 01:17:40,455
Speaker 14: the kitchen as it currently is, because I don't want

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01:17:40,455 --> 01:17:44,135
Speaker 14: to start moving things around and having extra cost. Currently

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01:17:44,175 --> 01:17:48,215
Speaker 14: my stove is next to a wall. Is that issue

1363
01:17:48,295 --> 01:17:50,815
Speaker 14: to put a new stove next to the wall.

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01:17:51,055 --> 01:17:53,455
Speaker 4: No, not at all. So all you need to do

1365
01:17:53,575 --> 01:17:55,895
Speaker 4: is to comply with the building code is to ensure

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01:17:55,935 --> 01:17:58,815
Speaker 4: that there is some sort of protection around the perimeter

1367
01:17:58,935 --> 01:18:02,575
Speaker 4: of it. So a tiled splash back, glass splash back,

1368
01:18:02,655 --> 01:18:05,855
Speaker 4: some stainless steel something like that. That's all.

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Speaker 14: Okay, all right, that's got in one more question. There's

1370
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Speaker 14: currently no range hod in the kitchen, and I'd like

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01:18:14,055 --> 01:18:16,895
Speaker 14: to put one in. But recently I had the roof

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01:18:17,015 --> 01:18:20,775
Speaker 14: replaced and the property has got a flat roof, and

1373
01:18:20,975 --> 01:18:24,815
Speaker 14: the roofing people put a corrugated roof in, but on

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01:18:24,895 --> 01:18:27,815
Speaker 14: one side of the house, which runs over the top

1375
01:18:27,855 --> 01:18:30,295
Speaker 14: of the dining room and the kitchen, they put a

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01:18:30,375 --> 01:18:34,535
Speaker 14: double layer of iron in because they said they wanted

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Speaker 14: to ensure proper runoff, so over the top of the

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01:18:37,535 --> 01:18:40,895
Speaker 14: corrugated iron they put like a flat piece of roofing

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01:18:40,975 --> 01:18:44,855
Speaker 14: iron the leaks of the property to ensure runoff, which

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01:18:44,895 --> 01:18:47,695
Speaker 14: now means if I have a rainehot, it's going to

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01:18:47,815 --> 01:18:51,895
Speaker 14: have to go up through two layers of corrugated iron.

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Speaker 14: The other issue is they could put it out through

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01:18:55,255 --> 01:19:00,535
Speaker 14: the wall the range hod, but it's a double brick

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01:19:01,375 --> 01:19:04,895
Speaker 14: plasted war I'm thinking what would be the best option,

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01:19:05,135 --> 01:19:07,055
Speaker 14: and is it possible to do it through.

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01:19:06,895 --> 01:19:10,975
Speaker 4: The rope Both are possible. In order to go through

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01:19:10,975 --> 01:19:13,615
Speaker 4: the brickwork, you'd need to get someone into concrete drill

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01:19:13,655 --> 01:19:16,695
Speaker 4: that for you. And as long as it's not too

1389
01:19:16,735 --> 01:19:19,175
Speaker 4: close to a window opening, there shouldn't be an issue

1390
01:19:19,215 --> 01:19:22,815
Speaker 4: in terms of structural integrity. So going out through the

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01:19:22,815 --> 01:19:25,375
Speaker 4: wall is an option depending on how close it is

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01:19:25,415 --> 01:19:30,695
Speaker 4: to the window. Going up and through the roof is doable.

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01:19:31,455 --> 01:19:34,615
Speaker 4: It's a little bit more complicated, but it's certainly not impossible.

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01:19:35,415 --> 01:19:38,535
Speaker 4: I think typically for range hoods, I think they vent

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01:19:38,775 --> 01:19:41,775
Speaker 4: better through the wall than through the roof because what

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01:19:41,815 --> 01:19:45,375
Speaker 4: you'll imagine what's happening. You've got the pot bubbling away,

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01:19:45,455 --> 01:19:47,975
Speaker 4: you've got the range hood going. It's got to push

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01:19:48,055 --> 01:19:52,335
Speaker 4: that moisture laden air up and then up a bit

1399
01:19:52,375 --> 01:19:54,695
Speaker 4: further and then allow it to come out the top.

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01:19:54,775 --> 01:19:56,935
Speaker 4: And what will happen is quite a lot will stay

1401
01:19:56,935 --> 01:19:59,895
Speaker 4: in that pipe, whereas if it's up and a bend

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01:20:00,015 --> 01:20:03,575
Speaker 4: and out it'll be much more effective. So my preference, well,

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01:20:03,575 --> 01:20:06,855
Speaker 4: my suggestion would be go for through the.

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01:20:06,815 --> 01:20:09,415
Speaker 14: Wall because it's less height.

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01:20:09,735 --> 01:20:12,095
Speaker 4: Less height, and they tend to be more effective.

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01:20:13,135 --> 01:20:14,775
Speaker 14: Okay, all right, that's lovely.

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01:20:14,655 --> 01:20:16,655
Speaker 4: Lovely to chat with you, my pleasure.

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01:20:16,695 --> 01:20:17,495
Speaker 14: It's helped a lot.

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01:20:17,695 --> 01:20:21,135
Speaker 4: Take care of FA all the best. It's eighteen minutes

1410
01:20:21,255 --> 01:20:23,095
Speaker 4: after eight back after the break.

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1419
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Speaker 5: Right.

1432
01:21:42,295 --> 01:21:46,615
Speaker 4: Let's a couple of quick calls before we jump into

1433
01:21:46,655 --> 01:21:51,695
Speaker 4: the garden Fay. Good morning, Yes, good morning, Adam.

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01:21:51,855 --> 01:21:57,855
Speaker 15: I'm just going to quick questions. I'm in an over

1435
01:21:57,975 --> 01:22:02,695
Speaker 15: fifty five at Belfast in christ Choo. What's my chap

1436
01:22:02,855 --> 01:22:06,495
Speaker 15: in the laundry and the kitchen grip quite well to

1437
01:22:06,615 --> 01:22:08,975
Speaker 15: turn them off. Yes, the plumb is said, that's what

1438
01:22:09,095 --> 01:22:15,895
Speaker 15: taps do. Won't fix it. Yeah, And we just can't

1439
01:22:15,935 --> 01:22:18,735
Speaker 15: get anybody, they said. I've been in here since March

1440
01:22:20,495 --> 01:22:24,615
Speaker 15: and still getting problems fixed the front door in that time.

1441
01:22:25,375 --> 01:22:29,215
Speaker 15: The door lock is jammed and i can't get in

1442
01:22:29,495 --> 01:22:33,015
Speaker 15: or out. And I've had it fixed, as I said,

1443
01:22:33,055 --> 01:22:38,455
Speaker 15: five times since March, and it was fixed again that's Friday.

1444
01:22:38,495 --> 01:22:39,935
Speaker 15: But I think it's going to go again.

1445
01:22:40,135 --> 01:22:44,295
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean sometimes, just with regard to the taps,

1446
01:22:44,335 --> 01:22:48,575
Speaker 4: they do. You know, depending on the design of the

1447
01:22:48,615 --> 01:22:51,335
Speaker 4: nozzle you might have. Once you turn the water off,

1448
01:22:51,735 --> 01:22:53,895
Speaker 4: a little bit of water might still sort of drop out.

1449
01:22:53,895 --> 01:22:57,495
Speaker 4: But I mean, and if it's inherent in the design,

1450
01:22:57,655 --> 01:23:01,335
Speaker 4: then that's what it is. But it seems unlikely, so

1451
01:23:01,415 --> 01:23:05,055
Speaker 4: I suspect it's an industry with the washer or the seal.

1452
01:23:05,695 --> 01:23:08,055
Speaker 4: With regard to the door. I mean, look, that's really

1453
01:23:08,095 --> 01:23:11,615
Speaker 4: frustrating and I would sort of escalate your concerns by

1454
01:23:11,735 --> 01:23:14,815
Speaker 4: going to the property managers and to the maintenance people

1455
01:23:14,855 --> 01:23:17,415
Speaker 4: and saying, look, this becomes a health and safety issue

1456
01:23:17,455 --> 01:23:20,855
Speaker 4: right the door keeps jamming, in which case if I

1457
01:23:20,895 --> 01:23:23,535
Speaker 4: needed to get out an emergency, I wouldn't be able to.

1458
01:23:24,415 --> 01:23:27,735
Speaker 4: You need to take another look at it. And maybe

1459
01:23:27,775 --> 01:23:30,455
Speaker 4: it's not a repair to the lock, it's a replacement

1460
01:23:30,455 --> 01:23:32,455
Speaker 4: to the lock. But I mean, you know these things

1461
01:23:33,495 --> 01:23:35,775
Speaker 4: to be blunt, they're not that complicated. People should be

1462
01:23:35,815 --> 01:23:37,735
Speaker 4: able to fix them. So I think it's it's really

1463
01:23:37,815 --> 01:23:43,255
Speaker 4: a question of challenging the maintenance team on that eight

1464
01:23:43,295 --> 01:23:45,375
Speaker 4: hundred eighty ten eighty A couple of quick text Actually

1465
01:23:45,415 --> 01:23:47,535
Speaker 4: it's quite nice on the kitchen thing that we're just

1466
01:23:47,575 --> 01:23:54,295
Speaker 4: talking about with Tatalia. So the industry standard in terms

1467
01:23:54,335 --> 01:23:56,855
Speaker 4: of like the New Zealand Kitchen Association or m k

1468
01:23:57,895 --> 01:24:00,615
Speaker 4: b A standard is twelve hundred if you're thinking about

1469
01:24:00,655 --> 01:24:04,735
Speaker 4: the distance between two bench tops in a galley type kitchen,

1470
01:24:04,975 --> 01:24:08,455
Speaker 4: so getting down to eight sixty as well below that,

1471
01:24:08,775 --> 01:24:10,975
Speaker 4: someone else said, well, you've got to make sure that

1472
01:24:11,455 --> 01:24:14,175
Speaker 4: with that limited space, what happens when you open the

1473
01:24:14,175 --> 01:24:18,695
Speaker 4: door of the dishwasher you'll have to unload from beside it,

1474
01:24:18,735 --> 01:24:21,055
Speaker 4: there won't be enough space to stand behind the door

1475
01:24:21,535 --> 01:24:24,175
Speaker 4: and reach, and so there are some challenges in that

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01:24:24,255 --> 01:24:31,495
Speaker 4: particular design for Natalia. So good morning to you, Hi there.

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01:24:31,375 --> 01:24:37,055
Speaker 16: Peter, Thanks for taking a call. Lassen't no trouble, thanks said. Look,

1478
01:24:37,095 --> 01:24:39,895
Speaker 16: we're trying to figure out the rules for putting a

1479
01:24:39,935 --> 01:24:45,375
Speaker 16: swim spar in our backyard. It's four fifty seven long,

1480
01:24:45,535 --> 01:24:49,255
Speaker 16: two twenty six wide and one twenty seven high, so

1481
01:24:49,335 --> 01:24:52,975
Speaker 16: it should be over the height for not needing to

1482
01:24:53,015 --> 01:24:59,255
Speaker 16: be fenced, potentially with a lockable cover. But honestly, we

1483
01:24:59,295 --> 01:25:01,895
Speaker 16: can't make a little tail of the council rules on this,

1484
01:25:02,095 --> 01:25:04,415
Speaker 16: and we seem to be going around in circle. Just

1485
01:25:05,015 --> 01:25:07,815
Speaker 16: what sort of advice you offer, And obviously we need

1486
01:25:07,855 --> 01:25:10,095
Speaker 16: to get into the thing as well, so stairs of

1487
01:25:10,375 --> 01:25:13,415
Speaker 16: steps of some kind and catchally some decking around it

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01:25:13,495 --> 01:25:18,175
Speaker 16: and sensing yes, but it's really a bit of a minefield.

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Speaker 16: So I'm just wondering if you could offer some wisdom.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've done a few of these. Actually. It seemed

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Speaker 4: to be a fairly common issue when we were working

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Speaker 4: on the block back in the day. So typically for

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Speaker 4: things like those sparples and that if it had a

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Speaker 4: lockable lid. Right, if it had demountable stairs, and if

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Speaker 4: it had a certain height and it was somewhere around

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Speaker 4: twelve or thirteen hundred high, then it didn't didn't trigger

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Speaker 4: the requirement for pool fencing because if you combine all

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Speaker 4: of those three measures, then the chances of someone entering

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Speaker 4: the property, falling into it, et cetera, etc. Is diminished. Right,

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Speaker 4: So there's that's your checks and balances. I would have

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Speaker 4: thought that the people who are supplying you the item

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Speaker 4: would be able to guide you through the consenting saying that.

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Speaker 4: I also accept that not all councils take the same

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Speaker 4: approach to things, despite the fact that there is only

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Speaker 4: one set of rules, right, there's only one swimming Pool Act,

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Speaker 4: but it doesn't stop individual councils interpreting it slightly differently.

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Speaker 4: And you know, like the demountable stair thing that can

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Speaker 4: be challenged sometimes when you know it is lockable, just

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Speaker 4: a little latch that means you can click it in place,

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Speaker 4: or does it have to have a key attached to it.

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Speaker 4: Most of the ones that I've seen have got like

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Speaker 4: a small plastic key so you can click the lid

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Speaker 4: into place and then turn the lock. So that you

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Speaker 4: can't just you know, press the levers on either side,

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Speaker 4: the buttons on either side and release it. You actually

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Speaker 4: have to have the key. So generally those things mean

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Speaker 4: that it's doesn't require fencing as per the Fencing Act

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Speaker 4: or the Pull Fencing Act. Rather okay, well not generally,

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Speaker 4: but I would have thought that the people you're buying

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Speaker 4: it from would be that should be able to give

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Speaker 4: you a bit of guidance accepting the fact that council change.

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Speaker 16: The rules when we start. If we start put decking

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Speaker 16: around and then the height comes up, yes, challenges.

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Speaker 4: That's right. So if in fact you put it on

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Speaker 4: the ground, then you build some decking around it, and

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Speaker 4: then suddenly the distance from the deck, which is where

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Speaker 4: you're going to be walking to the top of the

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Speaker 4: pool is less than the required minimum, then obviously that

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Speaker 4: then triggers a requirement for a pool fencing because you've

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Speaker 4: so it's those three key elements. You've got to make

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Speaker 4: sure that you comply with all three of those and

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Speaker 4: then you should.

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Speaker 1: Be okay, thank you very much.

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Speaker 4: Alrighty, no trouble at all, Thank you, Take care your

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Speaker 4: news talks. We're going to jump into the garden in

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Speaker 4: just a moment. Can I just say too, I had

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Speaker 4: the opportunity. I was invited to attend the SPAN Build

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Speaker 4: and Your conference or to attend the awards dinner at

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Speaker 4: the end of their conference. So SPAN build is the

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Speaker 4: group that includes people like Versatile and Total Span and

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Speaker 4: Ideal Buildings and Porter Build and so on. So they

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Speaker 4: got all their distributors and some of the suppliers from

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Speaker 4: all around the country. They've been in Auckland for a

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Speaker 4: couple of days. They had dinner at the Moment Hotel

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Speaker 4: on Friday night, and I was invited to go along

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Speaker 4: sort of as an MC and guest speaker. What a

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Speaker 4: delightful bunch of people. I have to say, I quite

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Speaker 4: enjoy it. Sounds a bit naive, but I quite enjoy

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Speaker 4: the awards that I go to because I've never worked

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Speaker 4: in a corporate environment where I'm part of that system. Right,

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Speaker 4: So in order you know, to see the support the

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01:28:56,895 --> 01:29:00,255
Speaker 4: friendship between people, you know, they're all competing for prizes

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01:29:00,295 --> 01:29:03,015
Speaker 4: and that sort of thing, but generally there's just a

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Speaker 4: recognition of excellence and hard work and community public service

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Speaker 4: and customer relations and just generally all round good people

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Speaker 4: and some really smart thinking coming out of that sector

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Speaker 4: as well, because if you're thinking about, you know, seventy

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Speaker 4: square meter buildings and how do you get compliance. Well,

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Speaker 4: I've always maintained that the simple approach for the government

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Speaker 4: would have been, will allow you to do seventy square meters,

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Speaker 4: but they essentially they've got to be built by companies

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Speaker 4: that we know about. So you create a register of

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Speaker 4: these large companies like Versatile and Total Span and Ideal

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Speaker 4: and so on, and because they've got checks and balances

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Speaker 4: in place, you just buy from them. Simple. But anyway,

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Speaker 4: that's not how the legislation's wrapping up at the moment.

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Speaker 4: But my thanks to the organizers for the invitation to

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Speaker 4: attend that Span Build Awards dinner. It was a hell

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Speaker 4: of a lot of fun. Thank you very much. I

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Speaker 4: really enjoyed it. Eight thirty Let's jump into the garden

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Speaker 4: Red climb passed after the break freak.

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