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Speaker 1: You're listening to The Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp

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Speaker 1: from News Talks at Batid twice God once, but maybe

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Speaker 1: called Pete first. Peter wolf Camp, the Resident Builder News

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Speaker 1: Talk said, b.

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Speaker 2: A house sizzle even when it's dark, even when the

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Speaker 2: grass is overgrown in the yard, and even when a

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Speaker 2: dog is too old to borrow, and when you're sitting

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Speaker 2: at the table trying not to start have scissor home,

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Speaker 2: even when we've a band ball, even when you're alone.

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Speaker 3: House sizzle, even when those.

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Speaker 2: Goes, even when you going around from the ones you love,

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Speaker 2: your moses.

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Speaker 4: Screamed on broken paints.

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Speaker 2: Appeeling from the world, locals visperable when they're going and

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Speaker 2: leaving him house, even when we run, even when you're.

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Speaker 5: In there alone.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I was wondering why, Well, good morning, Welcome along

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Speaker 6: to the show.

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Speaker 7: I was in fine form. I was right into my introduction,

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Speaker 7: and then I realized I hadn't turned my microphone on

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Speaker 7: and lock my delightful producers.

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Speaker 8: Looking at me, going mate, mate, you've got to push

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Speaker 8: the button. You've got to push the button.

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Speaker 7: Right, We're off to a flying folks, Welcome along to

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Speaker 7: the show. My name is Pete wolf Camp. And this

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Speaker 7: is your opportunity to talk all things building and construction.

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Speaker 7: It's the rules, the regulation, it's the products, it's the

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Speaker 7: individual components that we assemble, sometimes in a haphazard fashion,

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Speaker 7: sometimes in a perfectly orchestrated procedure where everything fits together

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Speaker 7: beautifully and you end up with a fantastic outcome on time,

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Speaker 7: on budget, maybe even under time. This does actually happen

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Speaker 7: from time to time, by the way, but sometimes it

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Speaker 7: also goes the other way, where it seems like the

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Speaker 7: I don't know, the gods decide that you're going to

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Speaker 7: have a tough day, and nothing works quite as well

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Speaker 7: as you would have expected it, and the wheels fall

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Speaker 7: off and you're hurtling down with three wheels on a

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Speaker 7: four wheel trolley. Some days are like that on building site.

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Speaker 7: So if you're having one of those days and you'd

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Speaker 7: like to chat about it, then give me a call. Oh,

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Speaker 7: eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

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Speaker 7: You can also text, and a couple of people have

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Speaker 7: already opted to do exactly that. The text is nine

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Speaker 7: to nine two and once I remember my password, you

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Speaker 7: can send me an email. It's Pete at newstalksb dot co.

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Speaker 7: Dot nz so Pete p E t E at newstalksedb

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Speaker 7: dot co dot en sid. I trust you've had a

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Speaker 7: good week. It's been a funny old week.

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Speaker 8: We otherwise.

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Speaker 7: I was trying to dash around to a few lawns yesterday,

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Speaker 7: got caught in a downpour and then kind of, you know,

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Speaker 7: within minutes it had cleared up and ready to go.

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Speaker 7: So if you're trying to get some jobs done, particularly

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Speaker 7: if they're outdoor type jobs, it is just a tad

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Speaker 7: frustrating with the weather at the moment. But hey, longer

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Speaker 7: days are coming. We're one week into daylight saving And

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Speaker 7: I tell you the other thing that's actually I haven't

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Speaker 8: Will there be one?

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Speaker 7: You know, typically around this time of year, people are

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Speaker 7: I can get the deck built before Christmas. I could

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Speaker 7: maybe do some landscaping before Christmas and the Christmas rush begins.

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Speaker 7: But I haven't now all the tradees that I talk to,

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Speaker 7: It is, after all, only the fifth of October. But

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Speaker 7: right now it's your opportunity to call to talk about

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Speaker 7: building construction, the rules, the regulations. We often talk a

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Speaker 7: bit about things like fencing, legislation, healthy home standards. We

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Speaker 7: Right, it's a proposal for legislation right now. It's not law.

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Speaker 7: It's certainly going to come. But right now, if you

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Speaker 8: Side of the law.

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Speaker 7: Eight hundred eighty ten eighty. The lines are open. The

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Speaker 7: today on the program, one of our painting experts, Bryce

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Speaker 7: McDermott from Razine, is going to join us around seven

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Speaker 7: to twenty five, so we'll take your text questions on that.

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Speaker 7: If you've got a specific question around painting, around either

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Speaker 7: that last coat of paint. It's what you do beforehand

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Speaker 7: that's also really important in getting a good paint result.

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Speaker 7: So if you've got a painting question might be about

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Speaker 7: specifics of paint, the type, which one to use, what

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Speaker 7: process to apply, which system goes well, so compatibility between

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Speaker 7: of that on the program at around seven to twenty five.

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Speaker 7: You can text your questions through for Bryce.

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Speaker 8: He'll be with us at seven.

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Speaker 7: Five radio lines are open. I'll come back with a

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Speaker 8: This is great.

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Speaker 7: Actually, Pete, I don't have a garden area. Is it

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Speaker 7: practical to make a new house roof into a deck

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Speaker 1: Doing other house, extorting the garden last feet for a hand.

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Speaker 4: It's as build with feeder, wolfcab call eight dogs V.

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Speaker 7: Your news dogs dB. It's it's open line on all

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Speaker 7: well I think I've probably got the answer. We'll have

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Speaker 7: hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

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Speaker 7: That text just before the break Pete, I don't have

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Speaker 7: a garden area. Is it practical to make a new

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Speaker 7: you can do it. It's it's obviously considerably more involved,

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Speaker 8: Right, So gee, it's going back a few years now.

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Speaker 7: I'd be seven eight years ago four of the blockhouses

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Speaker 7: you need to have that featured in as part of

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Speaker 7: it's it could be a really creative, sensible solution, and

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Speaker 7: you know, but it's got to be maintainable.

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Speaker 8: That I think that's the biggest challenge.

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Speaker 7: Oh eight, one hundred eighty eighty. The number to call

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Speaker 7: Hello Linda. It was Hello, Hello, Linda. How are you good?

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Speaker 9: Can I put the phone on to speaker phone or

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Speaker 7: I'm sure that's fine?

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Speaker 9: Okay, thank you? Are you there?

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Speaker 8: Absolutely?

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Speaker 9: Yes? Realm up. About a driveway that was It was

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Speaker 9: a driveway along the length of my property. It was

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Speaker 9: my property. Now, I did get the counsel in and

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Speaker 9: legal driveway, and that if I didn't fix it, they

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Speaker 9: I thought, I've heard this before on your program, and

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Speaker 9: I thought, I'm going to ring one now. But this

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Speaker 9: for now than ever. Sure, it's Sultan wet. And when

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Speaker 9: by the council. They were very good. They came and

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Speaker 9: civil measure.

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Speaker 7: A couple of things to address. One is I think

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Speaker 7: there is there are clear requirements in the Property Act, right,

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Speaker 7: so this is legislation that governs how we how we

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Speaker 7: deal with property issues. That it's very clear that you

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Speaker 7: can't do something that causes a nuisance to your neighbor, right,

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Speaker 7: So directing stormwater to a neighbor could be considered a nuisance.

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Speaker 7: And it sounds like whoever put the driveway in place

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Speaker 7: didn't There's other parts of law as well in terms

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Speaker 7: there's not a curb or a channel or something like that,

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Speaker 7: then I think that the way that they built it

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Speaker 7: a civil matter. They don't want to intervene, in which case,

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Speaker 7: for you, your next step is probably I take it

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Speaker 7: you've been to the neighbor to say, hey, I think

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Speaker 9: We've had water problems on the driveway, and a day

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Speaker 9: actually told the council what I understood. That's it's not

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Speaker 8: How is it not a driveway?

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Speaker 9: No, it's right away, but they use it as a driveway.

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Speaker 9: They've had it. It's being concreted. I think it was

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Speaker 7: A lawyer could then contact the neighbor, explain their responsibilities

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Speaker 9: But you know enough to spect the husband and wife

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Speaker 9: it's my responsibility unless they will put it on my limb.

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Speaker 9: Why should it go on my OD.

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Speaker 7: It's just to be clear there. I don't think counsel

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Speaker 7: It might go into the Property Information Memorandum or the PIM.

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Speaker 7: So if there's what happens with the PIM is the

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Speaker 7: or something like that. But it's just a record of

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Speaker 7: It might be a case of boxing up a a

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Speaker 9: They have got a piece of timber running down right

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Speaker 9: it's running towards that piece of timber. It'll seet through that,

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Speaker 7: I think it's great that you've been able to have

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Speaker 7: I know that you know those sorts of discussions with

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Speaker 7: to you on that one. Linda. It is six twenty

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Speaker 7: Where do I start in order to determine what remediation

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Speaker 7: determine how compliant the deck is in terms of, you know,

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Speaker 7: That's the process, and if you're going, gee, that sounds

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Speaker 7: or better still, give me a call because we've got

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Speaker 1: Now, whether you're paty with ceiling, fixing with fans or

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Speaker 7: Right six thirty two quick text as well, Hey, you

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Speaker 7: do nothing. From Paul, I think that I'm slightly more

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Speaker 7: You know, possibly the neighbor was not aware that it

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Speaker 7: of course, the work that driveway was done as part

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Speaker 7: I found the whole thing slightly not slightly actually extremely

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Speaker 7: that didn't have its final sign off, And how would

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Speaker 8: Is non compliant.

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Speaker 7: But somewhere along the line there's something spidery senses would say,

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Speaker 7: ten eighty, let's rip into it. Very good morning to you, Kirsty.

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Speaker 10: Good morning.

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Speaker 7: Let me Christy.

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Speaker 10: A yeah it is, it's actually Kirstin. But everybody gets

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Speaker 10: many years ago, you had a competition for a kitchen

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm still going, well, well have it.

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Speaker 10: It's the best thing I've ever ever had.

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Speaker 4: I wanted you to know that that's awesome.

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Speaker 7: I know that's really cool because I keep bumping into

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Speaker 7: Yeah they are. It's also but there's also that real

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Speaker 7: that's that's a good quality, and I've had it for years,

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Speaker 7: the same way, if you've got a favorite knife or

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Speaker 10: I've never really had favorites or anything like that. But

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Speaker 10: I'm like, wow, this is so cool. I wanted to

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Speaker 7: Know that that's wonderful.

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Speaker 11: How can I help, Well, I've put a bath or

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Speaker 11: I've just bought my rental. We had a rental with

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Speaker 11: a right to purchase this, Yes, and we got it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Well we're lucky. I'm a first time owner at

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Speaker 10: fifty three and we managed to get we've got it

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Speaker 10: friend doing us a favorite kind of thing. But throughout

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Speaker 10: And it's been facts. That's not a problem, but she

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Speaker 10: wasn't able to get it afford to get anything fixed.

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Speaker 10: We were walking on would you believe the build I

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Speaker 10: Unbelievable, though unbelievable. So we were walking on bouncy floors

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Speaker 10: of it. We didn't care about it aesthetically. A landlady

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Speaker 10: and we just literally had to rip up the floor.

431
00:25:28,055 --> 00:25:30,255
Speaker 10: And now the thing is, the bath and the shower

432
00:25:30,255 --> 00:25:34,055
Speaker 10: above it are on the side wall fully you know,

433
00:25:34,615 --> 00:25:38,055
Speaker 10: laminated in then tiled in. The bath is completely tiled,

434
00:25:38,055 --> 00:25:41,575
Speaker 10: and so it's like a bottom part of a wall,

435
00:25:41,655 --> 00:25:43,895
Speaker 10: and then the flooring is separate. Now, what my son

436
00:25:43,935 --> 00:25:47,015
Speaker 10: did is he did leave a small gap open just

437
00:25:47,135 --> 00:25:49,695
Speaker 10: by the bath to make sure everything totally dried out.

438
00:25:49,775 --> 00:25:51,935
Speaker 10: He says, I don't want you know, he said, just

439
00:25:51,975 --> 00:25:54,415
Speaker 10: in case it's still got moisture. Because he'd worked in

440
00:25:54,535 --> 00:25:58,535
Speaker 10: flood and fire technician roles, and he said, I'm just

441
00:25:58,575 --> 00:25:59,815
Speaker 10: going to leave this but just to give it a

442
00:25:59,815 --> 00:26:04,975
Speaker 10: bit of moisture, you know, removal. And so we just

443
00:26:05,055 --> 00:26:06,815
Speaker 10: we've got a it's not a the way it's in

444
00:26:06,855 --> 00:26:08,935
Speaker 10: a corner between the vanity and a bath, right, it's

445
00:26:08,935 --> 00:26:11,095
Speaker 10: not going to be an issue, but we need to

446
00:26:11,415 --> 00:26:14,735
Speaker 10: ultimately replace this with normal flawing. And I did have

447
00:26:14,775 --> 00:26:16,575
Speaker 10: someone who was a builder that came in and said, look,

448
00:26:16,575 --> 00:26:18,735
Speaker 10: because the vanity won't need replacing. It's only little, but

449
00:26:19,055 --> 00:26:22,295
Speaker 10: that's rotten at the bottom. It's it draws. And so

450
00:26:23,735 --> 00:26:25,895
Speaker 10: in the farthest corner away from the bath where there

451
00:26:25,935 --> 00:26:27,895
Speaker 10: was no damage is the toilet, but of course because

452
00:26:27,895 --> 00:26:29,975
Speaker 10: the floor has been moving a bit, it's moving a little,

453
00:26:30,695 --> 00:26:33,455
Speaker 10: so we want to be able to replace this. And

454
00:26:33,495 --> 00:26:35,855
Speaker 10: a builder has said to me, actually, I think you're

455
00:26:35,855 --> 00:26:37,655
Speaker 10: going to get away without doing the whole bathroom. If

456
00:26:37,695 --> 00:26:40,575
Speaker 10: you wish, you will probably be able to rip everything up,

457
00:26:40,695 --> 00:26:43,935
Speaker 10: leave the bath as is and just put down new flooring.

458
00:26:44,055 --> 00:26:48,215
Speaker 10: So we can probably need timber for more joye and

459
00:26:48,455 --> 00:26:51,015
Speaker 10: some sort of flawing. And I just wanted to get

460
00:26:51,095 --> 00:26:55,935
Speaker 10: your revice because I've been told on the reply. And

461
00:26:55,975 --> 00:26:57,815
Speaker 10: then someone else said to me, no, marineply is not

462
00:26:57,895 --> 00:27:01,855
Speaker 10: made for that. It won't be good enough. So he

463
00:27:02,175 --> 00:27:04,855
Speaker 10: you know, the materials won't be expensive. And he thinks

464
00:27:04,855 --> 00:27:09,975
Speaker 10: about that's been out sixteen hours labor maybe okay, he said,

465
00:27:10,015 --> 00:27:11,775
Speaker 10: I thought that was quite high, but he said a

466
00:27:11,775 --> 00:27:13,655
Speaker 10: couple of days. But I do also have a friend

467
00:27:14,095 --> 00:27:17,495
Speaker 10: who is quite handy man downe building and stuff. And

468
00:27:17,495 --> 00:27:19,095
Speaker 10: he said, well, he could come in and do the labor,

469
00:27:19,095 --> 00:27:20,895
Speaker 10: but he wants to have a plumber there ready and

470
00:27:21,055 --> 00:27:23,695
Speaker 10: ready to go, et cetera, et cetera. So I just

471
00:27:23,695 --> 00:27:24,735
Speaker 10: want to know what to do with it.

472
00:27:24,735 --> 00:27:26,975
Speaker 12: It's a very poor bathroom, okay at all.

473
00:27:27,255 --> 00:27:32,175
Speaker 7: Essentially what you've got is particle board over joists and

474
00:27:32,175 --> 00:27:34,575
Speaker 7: then you said it's on a concrete slab below there.

475
00:27:34,855 --> 00:27:37,975
Speaker 10: That doesn't yees, so that the foundation is a concrete

476
00:27:38,455 --> 00:27:40,695
Speaker 10: it appears to be. It appears to be an addition.

477
00:27:40,935 --> 00:27:43,615
Speaker 10: It's a very very old house nineteen hundred and three.

478
00:27:44,255 --> 00:27:45,895
Speaker 10: It's not what I would call split level, but you

479
00:27:45,935 --> 00:27:49,015
Speaker 10: do come down from the bedrooms onto a one tiny

480
00:27:49,015 --> 00:27:50,855
Speaker 10: set to a landing and then two steps down to

481
00:27:50,895 --> 00:27:53,335
Speaker 10: the left and two steps to the right. Close and

482
00:27:53,375 --> 00:27:56,215
Speaker 10: as you go through from the front lawn through a

483
00:27:56,255 --> 00:28:01,215
Speaker 10: gate to the section that is gently sort of elevated, so.

484
00:28:01,175 --> 00:28:02,135
Speaker 4: It gotten down.

485
00:28:02,655 --> 00:28:04,775
Speaker 10: So that's what the dad explains the steps. So that

486
00:28:04,935 --> 00:28:07,215
Speaker 10: USOM is on the lower part, and we do think

487
00:28:07,255 --> 00:28:09,415
Speaker 10: it is an addition. It's not part of the original.

488
00:28:09,695 --> 00:28:12,215
Speaker 10: Hence why that whole what i'm part of the house

489
00:28:12,575 --> 00:28:15,055
Speaker 10: is concrete foundations as opposed to piles.

490
00:28:15,175 --> 00:28:17,895
Speaker 7: Okay, So either way, you've got some joys there which

491
00:28:17,895 --> 00:28:20,735
Speaker 7: are in reasonable condition. You've got the particle board, which

492
00:28:20,815 --> 00:28:23,455
Speaker 7: not surprisingly over time with a bit of moisture, has

493
00:28:23,535 --> 00:28:26,495
Speaker 7: turned into weak pics. So you're going to pull that

494
00:28:26,615 --> 00:28:30,175
Speaker 7: out and you're going to replace it. That's how we

495
00:28:30,215 --> 00:28:31,615
Speaker 7: talk about it all the time on site.

496
00:28:31,615 --> 00:28:32,575
Speaker 4: But we were lucky.

497
00:28:32,615 --> 00:28:34,695
Speaker 10: We were lucky that we had enough joys that weren't

498
00:28:34,735 --> 00:28:37,655
Speaker 10: damaged and they were okay. And it's hilarious. People would

499
00:28:37,695 --> 00:28:39,775
Speaker 10: laugh at me because basically he ripped up the lino

500
00:28:40,415 --> 00:28:42,415
Speaker 10: and he just he just did a patch job for

501
00:28:42,495 --> 00:28:45,255
Speaker 10: us because we needed it, and he nailed this. It's

502
00:28:45,295 --> 00:28:47,895
Speaker 10: about an interesting I think they call it, you know,

503
00:28:51,055 --> 00:28:52,855
Speaker 10: and then nailed here.

504
00:28:52,735 --> 00:28:54,215
Speaker 8: We go, here we go, here to go, here we go.

505
00:28:54,575 --> 00:28:57,495
Speaker 7: Right, So you're going to pull up the old particle board,

506
00:28:57,495 --> 00:29:00,575
Speaker 7: You're going to nail down some new flooring. What type

507
00:29:00,575 --> 00:29:02,095
Speaker 7: of finish do you want on top?

508
00:29:03,135 --> 00:29:04,735
Speaker 10: I'm not worried. I'm not worried.

509
00:29:04,815 --> 00:29:05,175
Speaker 12: You're going to.

510
00:29:06,695 --> 00:29:09,615
Speaker 10: Probably a lino. It'll probably the cheapest they are going

511
00:29:09,615 --> 00:29:10,135
Speaker 10: for budget.

512
00:29:10,735 --> 00:29:13,735
Speaker 7: Then the most straightforward solution is probably going to be

513
00:29:13,855 --> 00:29:17,015
Speaker 7: to get some treated flooring ply, so it'll be h

514
00:29:17,095 --> 00:29:19,855
Speaker 7: three point two treated ply. Fix that down with some

515
00:29:19,895 --> 00:29:22,695
Speaker 7: stainless steel fixings, and then you could probably do your

516
00:29:22,775 --> 00:29:25,015
Speaker 7: lino straight over the top. If you said to me

517
00:29:25,095 --> 00:29:27,255
Speaker 7: that you wanted to tile, then maybe you could use

518
00:29:27,255 --> 00:29:31,135
Speaker 7: a fiber cement sheet a flooring sheet there, same process

519
00:29:31,135 --> 00:29:34,655
Speaker 7: and then you can tile directly over to that. But

520
00:29:34,815 --> 00:29:39,535
Speaker 7: if it's Lino, which is a nice simple yeah, Lino's

521
00:29:39,575 --> 00:29:42,175
Speaker 7: great in the bathroom, to be fair. And for something

522
00:29:42,215 --> 00:29:44,415
Speaker 7: like that, you can go to the edges seal it

523
00:29:44,615 --> 00:29:47,615
Speaker 7: and its job done. So I wish you all the

524
00:29:47,735 --> 00:29:50,175
Speaker 7: very best with that case. And thanks for telling us

525
00:29:50,175 --> 00:29:53,055
Speaker 7: about the kitchen. Know that's a consolation prize that turned

526
00:29:53,095 --> 00:29:54,295
Speaker 7: out to be a real pearler.

527
00:29:54,415 --> 00:29:54,935
Speaker 8: That's awesome.

528
00:29:54,975 --> 00:29:57,695
Speaker 7: Thank you and all the very best. Martin. Good morning

529
00:29:57,735 --> 00:30:00,775
Speaker 7: to you. Martin.

530
00:30:01,575 --> 00:30:03,415
Speaker 10: You need a cup of tea after that one.

531
00:30:03,575 --> 00:30:05,335
Speaker 7: Now I'm doing all right, mate, I've got a coffee.

532
00:30:05,335 --> 00:30:05,935
Speaker 7: I'm all good.

533
00:30:07,695 --> 00:30:10,535
Speaker 10: A product to removed a sealand and a shower to

534
00:30:11,415 --> 00:30:12,095
Speaker 10: it's Roldy.

535
00:30:12,215 --> 00:30:14,975
Speaker 13: We need to put a new lot in. Yeah.

536
00:30:15,015 --> 00:30:18,055
Speaker 7: I grab some stuff the other day which is by

537
00:30:18,415 --> 00:30:21,775
Speaker 7: Pseudal so s O U D A L. And it's

538
00:30:21,815 --> 00:30:25,455
Speaker 7: either the Pseudale brand or it's a Gorilla brand. And

539
00:30:25,495 --> 00:30:29,055
Speaker 7: it's basically a silicon dissolver, so it's like a it's

540
00:30:29,095 --> 00:30:33,175
Speaker 7: an aerosol spray. And what I do is there's also

541
00:30:33,295 --> 00:30:37,655
Speaker 7: quite a nifty little plastic tool for removing silicon. So

542
00:30:37,735 --> 00:30:39,695
Speaker 7: it's got like a flat scraper at one end and

543
00:30:39,815 --> 00:30:43,815
Speaker 7: a basically a V shaped scraper at the other end.

544
00:30:44,015 --> 00:30:45,615
Speaker 7: And what I do is I go through and I

545
00:30:45,695 --> 00:30:48,895
Speaker 7: cut out the bulk of the silicon using that tool,

546
00:30:48,975 --> 00:30:51,015
Speaker 7: or you can do a sharp knife, but this tool

547
00:30:51,055 --> 00:30:53,415
Speaker 7: is actually they're about twenty bucks, but I found it

548
00:30:53,495 --> 00:30:59,375
Speaker 7: quite useful. Little red tooling by the hardware stores. Get

549
00:30:59,375 --> 00:31:01,695
Speaker 7: the bulk of it out, and then I spray that

550
00:31:01,735 --> 00:31:05,695
Speaker 7: silicon remover dissolver over the top of it. Wait for

551
00:31:05,695 --> 00:31:07,815
Speaker 7: a little while and then you'll find that it just

552
00:31:07,895 --> 00:31:10,815
Speaker 7: softens it. And again using that tool or you know,

553
00:31:10,975 --> 00:31:14,255
Speaker 7: another little scraper, you can remove most of that. I

554
00:31:14,295 --> 00:31:18,495
Speaker 7: think then it pays to let that area dry completely,

555
00:31:18,495 --> 00:31:20,335
Speaker 7: because what you don't want to do is RUSSI into

556
00:31:20,335 --> 00:31:23,535
Speaker 7: putting new silicon in an area where you've just put

557
00:31:23,655 --> 00:31:27,175
Speaker 7: silicon remover, because it's going to impact on it. So

558
00:31:27,295 --> 00:31:30,735
Speaker 7: maybe with some other cleaner, let it dry thoroughly and

559
00:31:30,775 --> 00:31:36,295
Speaker 7: then replace the silicon. So and look, I've only when

560
00:31:36,295 --> 00:31:38,215
Speaker 7: did I buy that. It was the beginning of the

561
00:31:38,255 --> 00:31:40,095
Speaker 7: year that I had a job similar to that. You know,

562
00:31:40,255 --> 00:31:43,735
Speaker 7: some moldy silicon between the vanity and the tiled upstand

563
00:31:44,615 --> 00:31:47,695
Speaker 7: and it worked really well in terms of getting rid

564
00:31:47,775 --> 00:31:49,015
Speaker 7: of that silicon.

565
00:31:49,615 --> 00:31:52,695
Speaker 13: Okay, and what sort of silicon be.

566
00:31:53,295 --> 00:31:56,655
Speaker 7: Oh look, I'm always looking for something that's got, you know,

567
00:31:56,775 --> 00:32:03,735
Speaker 7: some sort of mold resistant element to it. Yeah, maybe

568
00:32:04,695 --> 00:32:07,695
Speaker 7: get some advice from the store where you're going, or

569
00:32:08,055 --> 00:32:10,975
Speaker 7: go to like a plumber's merchant or a tiling shop

570
00:32:11,375 --> 00:32:15,455
Speaker 7: and get their you know, sort of quality sealants, because

571
00:32:16,095 --> 00:32:18,175
Speaker 7: we all know that you can buy some sealants off

572
00:32:18,175 --> 00:32:21,135
Speaker 7: the shelf that just they seem to have put the

573
00:32:21,175 --> 00:32:24,215
Speaker 7: mold in them and you know, with you know what

574
00:32:24,215 --> 00:32:27,055
Speaker 7: I mean, it's like pre loaded with mold. But there

575
00:32:27,055 --> 00:32:30,535
Speaker 7: are some better ones out there now, Okay, alright, all

576
00:32:30,575 --> 00:32:31,855
Speaker 7: the best, take.

577
00:32:31,695 --> 00:32:33,015
Speaker 8: Care, see buddy.

578
00:32:33,095 --> 00:32:36,175
Speaker 7: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?

579
00:32:36,775 --> 00:32:39,095
Speaker 7: I need to take a break. I've got the locks

580
00:32:39,095 --> 00:32:41,375
Speaker 7: given me that look, you know that look it's like,

581
00:32:41,415 --> 00:32:42,735
Speaker 7: come on mate, got.

582
00:32:42,735 --> 00:32:43,255
Speaker 8: To take a break.

583
00:32:43,295 --> 00:32:45,055
Speaker 7: All right, let's do that. It is six forty five

584
00:32:45,095 --> 00:32:45,695
Speaker 7: back in a moment.

585
00:32:46,335 --> 00:32:49,975
Speaker 1: Squeaky door or squeaky floor, get the right advice from

586
00:32:50,015 --> 00:32:54,535
Speaker 1: Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder on News Talks by.

587
00:32:54,095 --> 00:32:56,175
Speaker 7: News Talks, heb welcome back to the show. Oh eight

588
00:32:56,255 --> 00:33:00,095
Speaker 7: hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Hello Alex,

589
00:33:01,415 --> 00:33:05,655
Speaker 7: good morning, good morning. Nice to have you with us.

590
00:33:06,415 --> 00:33:08,775
Speaker 14: My wife class away, my daughter and son, and my

591
00:33:08,895 --> 00:33:11,775
Speaker 14: daughter and god and all son come back from Australia.

592
00:33:12,015 --> 00:33:14,935
Speaker 14: They bought a house. Yep, so that was all right.

593
00:33:15,375 --> 00:33:17,575
Speaker 14: This house they would never sell in the wintertime. I'll

594
00:33:17,575 --> 00:33:19,455
Speaker 14: tell you that, I don't know if I'm going to

595
00:33:19,495 --> 00:33:22,975
Speaker 14: explain the properly. They've got a deck and a bit

596
00:33:23,015 --> 00:33:25,295
Speaker 14: of a bit of a courtyard. Every time it rains,

597
00:33:26,175 --> 00:33:30,375
Speaker 14: it floods. The water goes nowhere. It's about four or

598
00:33:30,415 --> 00:33:34,255
Speaker 14: five inches deep, and there of the three meters by

599
00:33:34,295 --> 00:33:38,855
Speaker 14: about six meters. Yep, it's got a crackdown, it's got

600
00:33:38,855 --> 00:33:43,895
Speaker 14: a it's got a little drain down the middle on

601
00:33:43,975 --> 00:33:47,095
Speaker 14: each side, right down the middle of these two of

602
00:33:47,175 --> 00:33:50,895
Speaker 14: these slabs, and it's full of stones. I went up

603
00:33:50,935 --> 00:33:53,975
Speaker 14: there or six months ago and I dug it up

604
00:33:54,975 --> 00:33:59,415
Speaker 14: and I found some soca, some soca draining.

605
00:33:59,615 --> 00:34:01,055
Speaker 12: Yes, the water's not.

606
00:34:01,055 --> 00:34:02,975
Speaker 14: Going away, just sits there and sits there and just

607
00:34:02,975 --> 00:34:05,775
Speaker 14: steeps away. Now, when they sold this house, should have

608
00:34:05,815 --> 00:34:08,815
Speaker 14: all us been explain that it floods, and the contact

609
00:34:08,855 --> 00:34:11,095
Speaker 14: when they were selling the house that we do get

610
00:34:11,095 --> 00:34:12,815
Speaker 14: a bit of water here or not, or just keep

611
00:34:12,855 --> 00:34:13,615
Speaker 14: it in themself.

612
00:34:13,815 --> 00:34:14,295
Speaker 12: Hush huh.

613
00:34:14,695 --> 00:34:16,935
Speaker 7: Yeah, I understand what you're saying. It is a really

614
00:34:16,935 --> 00:34:19,255
Speaker 7: good question. And you know, if you had to said

615
00:34:19,335 --> 00:34:21,735
Speaker 7: they bought the house ten years ago, then you.

616
00:34:21,695 --> 00:34:24,575
Speaker 14: Know they didn't buy or out ten years ago.

617
00:34:24,855 --> 00:34:25,095
Speaker 12: Yeah.

618
00:34:25,215 --> 00:34:29,615
Speaker 7: So typically, and this is more around the let's say,

619
00:34:29,655 --> 00:34:34,615
Speaker 7: the behavior of the real estate agent and the disclosure

620
00:34:34,695 --> 00:34:39,015
Speaker 7: from the property owner. So typically a real estate agent

621
00:34:39,095 --> 00:34:42,655
Speaker 7: will ask a property owner, are there any issues with

622
00:34:42,775 --> 00:34:47,015
Speaker 7: the property. Now, the property owner can choose to kind

623
00:34:47,015 --> 00:34:51,095
Speaker 7: of lie and say no, dry as a bone, great

624
00:34:51,175 --> 00:34:54,135
Speaker 7: property never had an issue, right knowing full well that

625
00:34:54,295 --> 00:34:57,695
Speaker 7: every time it rains that area floods, and possibly the

626
00:34:57,695 --> 00:35:00,495
Speaker 7: real estate agent isn't there on a day when it's

627
00:35:00,575 --> 00:35:02,855
Speaker 7: raining and didn't see it flooding, and so has no

628
00:35:02,975 --> 00:35:06,935
Speaker 7: reason to disbelieve the person. But in in that instance,

629
00:35:07,015 --> 00:35:10,455
Speaker 7: you could possibly go back to them and say, were

630
00:35:10,495 --> 00:35:13,295
Speaker 7: you aware of this? Surely you must have been, because

631
00:35:13,335 --> 00:35:17,095
Speaker 7: nothing has changed, we haven't done anything to cause the flooding. Therefore,

632
00:35:17,135 --> 00:35:22,015
Speaker 7: the flooding was there beforehand. So yes, you could possibly

633
00:35:22,055 --> 00:35:24,975
Speaker 7: do that. But I'm guessing that for the time and

634
00:35:25,135 --> 00:35:27,695
Speaker 7: energy that that's going to take, and the legal fees

635
00:35:27,735 --> 00:35:30,175
Speaker 7: involved and all the rest of it, You're probably better

636
00:35:30,215 --> 00:35:32,775
Speaker 7: off just coming up with a solution. So the big

637
00:35:32,855 --> 00:35:37,015
Speaker 7: question is is there some nearby storm water that is

638
00:35:37,335 --> 00:35:40,055
Speaker 7: at the same level or lower than that area of

639
00:35:40,095 --> 00:35:40,655
Speaker 7: the patio?

640
00:35:41,775 --> 00:35:46,255
Speaker 14: Yeah, there is there is one. There's one aboutdoor outdoor

641
00:35:48,695 --> 00:35:52,615
Speaker 14: a meet and a half two meters about to the

642
00:35:52,895 --> 00:35:56,415
Speaker 14: center of this of this some whole sort of thing

643
00:35:56,455 --> 00:35:59,375
Speaker 14: with all the water cities. Okay, some's got a mate

644
00:35:59,415 --> 00:36:01,935
Speaker 14: having a look at it. I'm just I'm just grib

645
00:36:02,015 --> 00:36:04,735
Speaker 14: you about. I'm more ribed about it than my son. Yeah,

646
00:36:05,295 --> 00:36:07,655
Speaker 14: he's got got a plumber made, he's going to he's

647
00:36:07,655 --> 00:36:10,175
Speaker 14: having a look at it. But all I really wanted

648
00:36:10,175 --> 00:36:13,535
Speaker 14: the motion. Have all these things been disclosed when people

649
00:36:13,575 --> 00:36:14,255
Speaker 14: buy houses?

650
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Speaker 12: Yeah, and it looks like you said they can be

651
00:36:17,975 --> 00:36:19,415
Speaker 12: honest as I'm not honest. Yeah.

652
00:36:19,615 --> 00:36:22,255
Speaker 7: Earlier in the year, we actually had a guy called

653
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Speaker 7: Wayne maguire, right, who's a real estate agent. I've known

654
00:36:24,815 --> 00:36:26,495
Speaker 7: him for a number of years, and I got him

655
00:36:26,495 --> 00:36:29,615
Speaker 7: to come in here to talk about exactly this, that

656
00:36:29,735 --> 00:36:33,615
Speaker 7: whole duty to disclose and so on. And it would

657
00:36:33,655 --> 00:36:36,415
Speaker 7: seem that, you know, I suppose depending on which real

658
00:36:36,495 --> 00:36:38,695
Speaker 7: estate agent or which company you happen to work for.

659
00:36:38,775 --> 00:36:45,175
Speaker 7: They've they've got very very good, robust procedures for finding

660
00:36:45,215 --> 00:36:49,015
Speaker 7: out about the property to ensure that as as the

661
00:36:49,135 --> 00:36:52,175
Speaker 7: person handling the sale, they've got as much information as

662
00:36:52,215 --> 00:36:56,175
Speaker 7: they can possibly find out they can and it's full disclosure. Hey,

663
00:36:56,255 --> 00:36:58,375
Speaker 7: this is what we think might be a problem or

664
00:36:58,495 --> 00:37:00,735
Speaker 7: is a problem, and so on and so forth. And

665
00:37:01,015 --> 00:37:02,935
Speaker 7: you know, that's what you would expect these days with

666
00:37:03,095 --> 00:37:07,255
Speaker 7: a as part of a sale and purchase agreement or

667
00:37:07,415 --> 00:37:10,175
Speaker 7: in terms of the professional behavior of the real estate agent.

668
00:37:10,295 --> 00:37:12,975
Speaker 7: But that might not have happened, in which case, you know,

669
00:37:13,095 --> 00:37:15,615
Speaker 7: you could look into it. You could go to the

670
00:37:15,615 --> 00:37:18,735
Speaker 7: real estate Institute. They've got their own sort of disciplinary

671
00:37:18,975 --> 00:37:23,295
Speaker 7: investigation type body that's there. You could certainly look at that.

672
00:37:23,415 --> 00:37:27,335
Speaker 7: But the good thing is if there is some stormwater nearby,

673
00:37:27,855 --> 00:37:31,055
Speaker 7: then you know, simply ripping out that drain or opening

674
00:37:31,135 --> 00:37:34,095
Speaker 7: it up, ensuring that it goes to a catch pit,

675
00:37:34,215 --> 00:37:36,455
Speaker 7: that there's a half siphon on the catch pit and

676
00:37:36,495 --> 00:37:40,655
Speaker 7: it discharges into council stormwater or into the private line,

677
00:37:40,655 --> 00:37:42,775
Speaker 7: and you know it's a fix. Right, So the good

678
00:37:42,815 --> 00:37:46,095
Speaker 7: news is there is a fix if they want to

679
00:37:46,135 --> 00:37:48,935
Speaker 7: try and get some redress from the previous owners. People

680
00:37:49,015 --> 00:37:51,935
Speaker 7: have been successful in doing that recently. I've read a

681
00:37:52,015 --> 00:37:54,815
Speaker 7: number of cases where people have said, hey, look, you

682
00:37:54,855 --> 00:37:57,575
Speaker 7: know you really did know about this, but you didn't

683
00:37:57,615 --> 00:38:00,535
Speaker 7: disclose it, and I'm going to seek some costs. So

684
00:38:00,975 --> 00:38:04,095
Speaker 7: that's an option. But I think most the good news

685
00:38:04,175 --> 00:38:06,295
Speaker 7: is there is a fix and hopefully you can get

686
00:38:06,375 --> 00:38:07,175
Speaker 7: it's so.

687
00:38:07,135 --> 00:38:07,775
Speaker 8: That'd be great.

688
00:38:08,335 --> 00:38:10,215
Speaker 7: Thanks for that, Matan, Good on you for looking after

689
00:38:10,255 --> 00:38:14,855
Speaker 7: your boy. Owen greet things. Good morning, Pat morning, sir.

690
00:38:15,375 --> 00:38:17,055
Speaker 5: I'm hoping you can hear me your I've got you

691
00:38:17,135 --> 00:38:20,335
Speaker 5: on speakerphone so I can bring up for my nephew.

692
00:38:20,455 --> 00:38:23,375
Speaker 5: For my nephew who asked me a question that had

693
00:38:23,415 --> 00:38:25,695
Speaker 5: me scratching my head, but I thought you were one

694
00:38:25,735 --> 00:38:30,295
Speaker 5: of your listeners and callers may have the answer. Extense

695
00:38:30,615 --> 00:38:35,975
Speaker 5: thank you. Essentially, he's asking for, in my words, if

696
00:38:36,015 --> 00:38:40,695
Speaker 5: there is a cheap or people free and relatively easy

697
00:38:40,695 --> 00:38:46,015
Speaker 5: to use CAD type software where that he wants to.

698
00:38:46,375 --> 00:38:48,655
Speaker 5: He's a clever blow but he's not being involved in

699
00:38:48,695 --> 00:38:51,495
Speaker 5: this sort of home hand him and stuff or design

700
00:38:51,575 --> 00:38:53,895
Speaker 5: or whatever. But he can turn his hand to stuff

701
00:38:53,895 --> 00:38:57,135
Speaker 5: because it's intelligent guy and he wants to visualize and

702
00:38:57,215 --> 00:39:00,615
Speaker 5: plan a project sort of for his yard of the house.

703
00:39:00,695 --> 00:39:06,175
Speaker 15: Yes, bought for once I shed fire pit, garden, growing

704
00:39:06,375 --> 00:39:09,895
Speaker 15: structure with you plan. And he wants to have like

705
00:39:09,975 --> 00:39:12,375
Speaker 15: a you know, like a storage shed that he might

706
00:39:12,775 --> 00:39:16,575
Speaker 15: hang a travelers off the back and tool cave man

707
00:39:16,735 --> 00:39:19,455
Speaker 15: cave sort of thing and buy it storage and et cetera.

708
00:39:20,535 --> 00:39:22,895
Speaker 15: But so what he wants to do is be to.

709
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Speaker 5: Just sort of design planet, visualize it and then extract

710
00:39:26,535 --> 00:39:31,215
Speaker 5: measurements from it. I know a very complex, super expensive,

711
00:39:31,695 --> 00:39:35,575
Speaker 5: hard to use software that takes years of training, but

712
00:39:35,895 --> 00:39:38,815
Speaker 5: it's basically at lower level with what we're asking about.

713
00:39:38,855 --> 00:39:40,575
Speaker 5: Then there's nothing like a recommendation.

714
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Speaker 12: Yeah.

715
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Speaker 7: Sure, Look it's not my strong suit. I've for whatever reason,

716
00:39:46,415 --> 00:39:50,615
Speaker 7: never kind of adopted that I probably should, and I

717
00:39:50,655 --> 00:39:54,175
Speaker 7: would probably in the next few years find it quite useful.

718
00:39:54,215 --> 00:39:57,135
Speaker 7: But there are some out there, and certainly I know

719
00:39:57,415 --> 00:40:00,335
Speaker 7: like a number of builders that I know will use

720
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Speaker 7: it quite readily. Not so much because they're telling architects

721
00:40:04,695 --> 00:40:07,655
Speaker 7: and architectural designers what to do. It's just it's quite

722
00:40:07,655 --> 00:40:10,495
Speaker 7: handy to be able to generate your own CAD drawings

723
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Speaker 7: for the guys on site or part of you know,

724
00:40:15,415 --> 00:40:17,455
Speaker 7: figuring out how to finish a project and that sort

725
00:40:17,495 --> 00:40:20,495
Speaker 7: of thing. So it's not my strong suit. I don't

726
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Speaker 7: use any of them. Unfortunately I did at one stage

727
00:40:23,615 --> 00:40:26,375
Speaker 7: couple of years ago look at sketch up, which seems

728
00:40:26,415 --> 00:40:29,415
Speaker 7: to be quite well known and quite well regarded. So

729
00:40:29,455 --> 00:40:31,295
Speaker 7: sketch up is one of them. But I tell you

730
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Speaker 7: what I'll do, because we're running into the news. If

731
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Speaker 7: people want to text through their suggestions for programs that

732
00:40:37,055 --> 00:40:40,215
Speaker 7: they might use, I'll just read them out as they

733
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Speaker 7: come in. So just stay listening for a little while.

734
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Speaker 7: And if you're someone who uses one of these drafting

735
00:40:46,895 --> 00:40:49,855
Speaker 7: or CAD type programs, but it's a let's say, an

736
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Speaker 7: entry level one, one that I might even be able

737
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Speaker 7: to understand, then feel free to just flick through the

738
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Speaker 7: name via the text, which is nine two nine two,

739
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Speaker 7: and I'll read those out because to be fair, it

740
00:41:00,655 --> 00:41:02,735
Speaker 7: is I recognize it's a bit of a weak spot

741
00:41:02,735 --> 00:41:04,975
Speaker 7: for me, and I should probably learn to use one

742
00:41:05,095 --> 00:41:09,175
Speaker 7: as well. We are back, oh now, remember Bryce after

743
00:41:09,215 --> 00:41:11,695
Speaker 7: the news as well about seven twenty five, text me

744
00:41:11,855 --> 00:41:14,615
Speaker 7: your painting questions back, so.

745
00:41:14,415 --> 00:41:18,295
Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The Resident

746
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Speaker 1: Builder with Peter Wolfcat call. Oh eight, talks'd.

747
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Speaker 7: Be yeah, a news talks. It'd be good morning, welcome

748
00:41:25,655 --> 00:41:29,255
Speaker 7: to back to or welcome to the show seven o'clock.

749
00:41:29,255 --> 00:41:31,695
Speaker 7: As you're sort of joining our as opposed to joining

750
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Speaker 7: us at six. We don't mind as long as you're

751
00:41:34,215 --> 00:41:36,655
Speaker 7: out there. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

752
00:41:36,695 --> 00:41:39,295
Speaker 7: the number to call. We're talking all things building construction.

753
00:41:39,415 --> 00:41:42,095
Speaker 7: So we talked driveways, We've talked rotten floors, we've talked

754
00:41:42,135 --> 00:41:45,695
Speaker 7: removing silicon. By the way, the one that I picked

755
00:41:45,775 --> 00:41:51,575
Speaker 7: up the other day was it as Sudull as the

756
00:41:51,655 --> 00:41:56,215
Speaker 7: overall brand, but it's it's Gorilla selant removal spray, so

757
00:41:56,215 --> 00:41:59,095
Speaker 7: I think there's like a gel. I used the spray,

758
00:41:59,975 --> 00:42:02,735
Speaker 7: used it on the vanity. Went and checked a property

759
00:42:02,775 --> 00:42:06,095
Speaker 7: the other day and notice the water was just pouring

760
00:42:06,095 --> 00:42:11,215
Speaker 7: out of the shower enclosure right, So wondered why parts

761
00:42:11,215 --> 00:42:14,615
Speaker 7: of the plaster board had started to decay outside the shower.

762
00:42:15,015 --> 00:42:18,455
Speaker 7: This is a standard sort of you know, plastic shower liner,

763
00:42:18,615 --> 00:42:23,095
Speaker 7: aluminium doors, blah blah blah, And I don't know whoever

764
00:42:23,135 --> 00:42:24,815
Speaker 7: fixed it in the first place didn't do a great

765
00:42:24,895 --> 00:42:28,735
Speaker 7: job anyway, Turn the shower on direct it to the

766
00:42:28,775 --> 00:42:32,495
Speaker 7: corner water just pause out the other side, went back,

767
00:42:32,815 --> 00:42:36,935
Speaker 7: got some of this pseud old gorilla sealant remover, sprayed

768
00:42:36,935 --> 00:42:39,455
Speaker 7: that on, pulled out the old silicon, got some new silicon.

769
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Speaker 8: Put that in.

770
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Speaker 7: So far, so good, basically, so yeah, it is. It

771
00:42:44,335 --> 00:42:47,815
Speaker 7: is quite useful. There you go. When I did the

772
00:42:47,815 --> 00:42:51,735
Speaker 7: old Google search, might have ten's got it simple as right, yoh,

773
00:42:51,775 --> 00:42:54,415
Speaker 7: it is eight minutes half to seven. Remember, in about

774
00:42:54,455 --> 00:42:58,415
Speaker 7: fifteen twenty minutes, we've got Bryce McDermott, our painting expert

775
00:42:58,495 --> 00:43:00,975
Speaker 7: from the good people at Razine. He's going to join

776
00:43:01,055 --> 00:43:03,775
Speaker 7: me live on the show. If you've got any painting questions,

777
00:43:03,815 --> 00:43:05,935
Speaker 7: and we're getting a few of them through so far,

778
00:43:06,415 --> 00:43:10,135
Speaker 7: then it's nine to nine two send through your specific

779
00:43:10,175 --> 00:43:13,375
Speaker 7: painting questions and we'll do that with Bryce from Razine.

780
00:43:13,695 --> 00:43:16,735
Speaker 7: Then not that far, not that long way. A couple

781
00:43:16,735 --> 00:43:20,375
Speaker 7: of people have text and thank you with regard to

782
00:43:20,855 --> 00:43:24,735
Speaker 7: a CAD program that's kind of accessible for beginners. So

783
00:43:24,895 --> 00:43:27,215
Speaker 7: like if I could use it, then pretty much anyone could.

784
00:43:27,575 --> 00:43:31,335
Speaker 7: That's that's the threshold. So a couple of people have

785
00:43:31,375 --> 00:43:35,895
Speaker 7: text through. I use a drawing app called Magic Plan.

786
00:43:36,455 --> 00:43:39,455
Speaker 7: It's useful for creating floor plans, and it has a

787
00:43:39,535 --> 00:43:42,855
Speaker 7: three D capacity. There's a free view version and then

788
00:43:42,975 --> 00:43:46,575
Speaker 7: subscription versions that are slightly more useful, which is as

789
00:43:46,815 --> 00:43:51,095
Speaker 7: as you would expect. So that's Magic Plan. Someone else's

790
00:43:51,135 --> 00:43:54,575
Speaker 7: text through sketch Up is my advice. They're an LBP

791
00:43:54,895 --> 00:43:58,175
Speaker 7: design three but they still use it for quick presentation.

792
00:43:58,375 --> 00:44:02,135
Speaker 7: So there's a obviously you're very familiar with some sort

793
00:44:02,175 --> 00:44:05,735
Speaker 7: of CAD program for your designs, but you're still using SketchUp,

794
00:44:05,735 --> 00:44:07,775
Speaker 7: which is interesting. And then.

795
00:44:10,415 --> 00:44:10,935
Speaker 8: Blender.

796
00:44:11,815 --> 00:44:15,575
Speaker 7: There you go a free three D program called Blender,

797
00:44:15,615 --> 00:44:19,415
Speaker 7: which can be downloaded from the internet. Just search for

798
00:44:19,495 --> 00:44:21,535
Speaker 7: Blender three D. You might have a look at that

799
00:44:21,615 --> 00:44:24,015
Speaker 7: as well. So thank you to those people that text

800
00:44:24,095 --> 00:44:28,415
Speaker 7: that through. That's super useful and I sort of recognized

801
00:44:28,455 --> 00:44:33,335
Speaker 7: for myself it's a gap in my knowledge or utility.

802
00:44:34,015 --> 00:44:36,135
Speaker 7: It's a tool that I don't have in my toolbox,

803
00:44:36,175 --> 00:44:40,455
Speaker 7: so to speak. I should probably do something about that. Calvin, Greetings,

804
00:44:40,495 --> 00:44:48,375
Speaker 7: and good morning. This is all going, but there you go, gotcha. Calvin, Hello, yes,

805
00:44:48,415 --> 00:44:50,215
Speaker 7: good morning, good morning. Indeed, thank you.

806
00:44:52,215 --> 00:44:56,295
Speaker 12: That's fine. Stripping wallpaper off. The house.

807
00:44:58,175 --> 00:45:01,895
Speaker 16: Had an area under a window. There was a desk

808
00:45:01,975 --> 00:45:06,135
Speaker 16: up against it couldn't notice any black spots or anything

809
00:45:06,135 --> 00:45:09,775
Speaker 16: on the wallpaper. When we took the wallpaper off, the

810
00:45:09,815 --> 00:45:14,175
Speaker 16: wall is sprinkled in black. Yes, that's the easiest way

811
00:45:14,215 --> 00:45:19,415
Speaker 16: to describe it to you. And the wall feels quite somber,

812
00:45:19,455 --> 00:45:20,015
Speaker 16: and I bang it.

813
00:45:20,095 --> 00:45:21,295
Speaker 12: With my fists.

814
00:45:23,175 --> 00:45:26,575
Speaker 16: But for the for the black to be there, there

815
00:45:27,095 --> 00:45:30,735
Speaker 16: there must be a leak under the window or something.

816
00:45:32,935 --> 00:45:41,495
Speaker 16: I'm presuming yes, And it's quite sprinkled. It's sprinkled across

817
00:45:42,535 --> 00:45:45,975
Speaker 16: a section of about a meat I suppose met there

818
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Speaker 16: twelve hundred. And if I take the glass, I've had

819
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Speaker 16: rectrofit double glazing feather right.

820
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Speaker 12: If I take the window.

821
00:45:57,135 --> 00:45:59,015
Speaker 10: Out, the glass out.

822
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Speaker 16: Sorry, I can do that work myself and sell the

823
00:46:03,015 --> 00:46:07,215
Speaker 16: drain that's in the in the window frame. When they

824
00:46:07,295 --> 00:46:11,455
Speaker 16: put the retrofit in the bottom molding, has they've milled

825
00:46:11,655 --> 00:46:19,815
Speaker 16: drains in. It's a it's a ninety house built. Would

826
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Speaker 16: that suffice two? Well, that should stop the leak. But

827
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Speaker 16: I was just concerned little a bit about in the

828
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Speaker 16: wall itself, what could be what would happen to the

829
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Speaker 16: wood in there? Because it won't be borow sorry, canalyzed,

830
00:46:38,775 --> 00:46:42,815
Speaker 16: I wouldn't think, because it will just be ordinary framing

831
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Speaker 16: in there, whether there's if the war board comes up,

832
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Speaker 16: whether it's a product that could be painted on the

833
00:46:50,575 --> 00:46:57,615
Speaker 16: wood or something like that. I was just looking for

834
00:46:57,695 --> 00:47:01,175
Speaker 16: suggestions from you that you may have encountered this problem.

835
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Speaker 7: Yeah, the impression that I'm forming is that it's a

836
00:47:07,575 --> 00:47:10,735
Speaker 7: little bit like what's that game Whack a mole type

837
00:47:10,775 --> 00:47:14,295
Speaker 7: thing where you know you knock one so you know,

838
00:47:14,495 --> 00:47:16,295
Speaker 7: you knock something down, something else pops up.

839
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Speaker 12: Right.

840
00:47:16,935 --> 00:47:19,575
Speaker 7: So the reason I raised that is that you know,

841
00:47:19,695 --> 00:47:22,975
Speaker 7: in that environment there could be a combination of things

842
00:47:23,015 --> 00:47:24,255
Speaker 7: that's causing.

843
00:47:24,975 --> 00:47:25,695
Speaker 8: The mold growth.

844
00:47:25,775 --> 00:47:28,295
Speaker 7: Right, So the mold growth is the what you can

845
00:47:28,335 --> 00:47:33,055
Speaker 7: see that says, hey, something's not working in this system. Well,

846
00:47:33,455 --> 00:47:37,655
Speaker 7: so I'd be very reluctant to say that you should

847
00:47:37,655 --> 00:47:41,135
Speaker 7: seal up any drainage holes because those drainage holes are

848
00:47:41,175 --> 00:47:44,695
Speaker 7: there for a reason, and they allow condensation or moisture

849
00:47:44,935 --> 00:47:48,175
Speaker 7: to be directed that collects around the frame to be

850
00:47:48,375 --> 00:47:52,335
Speaker 7: ideally directed to outside. Now, what might be happening is

851
00:47:52,655 --> 00:47:57,055
Speaker 7: instead of that condensation or the moisture that collects on

852
00:47:57,135 --> 00:48:00,015
Speaker 7: the inside of the joinery being able to be directed

853
00:48:00,015 --> 00:48:02,735
Speaker 7: to outside, it's actually because of the way it was

854
00:48:02,735 --> 00:48:05,255
Speaker 7: installed or the way it was flashed or whatever, it

855
00:48:05,335 --> 00:48:08,615
Speaker 7: might actually be be directed into the building envelope, into

856
00:48:08,655 --> 00:48:12,655
Speaker 7: the actual walls. So if that was the case, this

857
00:48:13,175 --> 00:48:17,375
Speaker 7: and the other thing is like, especially with double glazed units,

858
00:48:17,575 --> 00:48:20,215
Speaker 7: it's really important that there's drainage at the bottom of

859
00:48:20,255 --> 00:48:23,855
Speaker 7: the double glazed units. It's typically not that much of

860
00:48:23,895 --> 00:48:27,095
Speaker 7: an issue with aluminium joinery, but certainly if you're doing

861
00:48:27,135 --> 00:48:31,975
Speaker 7: a retrofit into timber joinery and you don't have some

862
00:48:32,175 --> 00:48:35,735
Speaker 7: provision for drainage at the bottom, and water gets trapped

863
00:48:35,735 --> 00:48:39,135
Speaker 7: at the bottom of the DG unit, it's likely to

864
00:48:39,135 --> 00:48:40,255
Speaker 7: cause some sort of failure.

865
00:48:40,455 --> 00:48:40,655
Speaker 4: Right.

866
00:48:40,695 --> 00:48:44,415
Speaker 7: So again, I'd be really reluctant to say you should

867
00:48:44,455 --> 00:48:46,575
Speaker 7: seal up any of that drainage holes. But what would

868
00:48:46,655 --> 00:48:50,175
Speaker 7: be interesting is to actually tip some water into that

869
00:48:50,375 --> 00:48:54,255
Speaker 7: channel and see where it goes. Right, So if you

870
00:48:54,335 --> 00:48:56,775
Speaker 7: tip it in and then you find that it's exiting

871
00:48:57,215 --> 00:48:59,935
Speaker 7: on the exterior of the building, then the drainage is

872
00:49:00,015 --> 00:49:04,415
Speaker 7: doing what it should do, and leave that alone. That's great.

873
00:49:04,695 --> 00:49:07,615
Speaker 7: If you tip some in and you that it's going

874
00:49:07,775 --> 00:49:10,415
Speaker 7: through the frame, but you don't see it going to

875
00:49:10,455 --> 00:49:13,415
Speaker 7: the exterior, then it's an issue with how the window

876
00:49:13,655 --> 00:49:16,215
Speaker 7: was installed and you might actually need to remove the window,

877
00:49:16,655 --> 00:49:20,175
Speaker 7: redo the flashings, and then replace the entire window.

878
00:49:19,855 --> 00:49:21,335
Speaker 8: Which could be quite a big job.

879
00:49:21,695 --> 00:49:24,855
Speaker 7: The other thing is, you know, have a look on

880
00:49:24,895 --> 00:49:29,015
Speaker 7: the outside and make sure that you've got adequate coverage

881
00:49:29,055 --> 00:49:32,055
Speaker 7: of the cladding over the bottom plate so that you're

882
00:49:32,055 --> 00:49:35,855
Speaker 7: not getting water that's actually coming in there, that your

883
00:49:36,175 --> 00:49:41,535
Speaker 7: levels outside are not too high causing water to sit

884
00:49:41,615 --> 00:49:43,455
Speaker 7: around at the bottom of the cladding and around the

885
00:49:43,455 --> 00:49:46,695
Speaker 7: bottom plate and being drawn into the building via a

886
00:49:46,735 --> 00:49:50,295
Speaker 7: capillary action. And then I was going to say it

887
00:49:50,375 --> 00:49:52,855
Speaker 7: might be an issue in terms of the build up

888
00:49:52,895 --> 00:49:55,255
Speaker 7: of the wall and maybe no insulation, but if we're

889
00:49:55,255 --> 00:49:58,375
Speaker 7: talking a nineties build, I'm going to assume that there's

890
00:49:58,455 --> 00:50:02,975
Speaker 7: insulation in that wall cavity. It's yes, but I think

891
00:50:02,975 --> 00:50:05,935
Speaker 7: you need to look at all of those different elements.

892
00:50:05,935 --> 00:50:09,415
Speaker 7: So there's the drainage from the joinery, there's the flashing

893
00:50:09,455 --> 00:50:12,935
Speaker 7: detail around the window, there's a close inspection of the

894
00:50:12,975 --> 00:50:16,255
Speaker 7: cladding detail on the exterior, and these issues with the

895
00:50:16,255 --> 00:50:19,695
Speaker 7: ground level. And then because what you might find, hence

896
00:50:19,735 --> 00:50:22,135
Speaker 7: my reference to sort of whack a mole, you know,

897
00:50:22,255 --> 00:50:24,815
Speaker 7: you go, ah, there's my problem. I'm going to hit

898
00:50:24,855 --> 00:50:27,255
Speaker 7: that one and find that, in fact, the problem was

899
00:50:27,255 --> 00:50:30,295
Speaker 7: something else because it's a complex environment, right, There's a

900
00:50:30,295 --> 00:50:33,455
Speaker 7: lot of things going on in that space, so you know,

901
00:50:33,495 --> 00:50:36,775
Speaker 7: and if that's something that you feel confident doing, great,

902
00:50:36,935 --> 00:50:39,935
Speaker 7: If not, I'd get either a joinery guy or a

903
00:50:40,295 --> 00:50:44,255
Speaker 7: suitable experienced LBP to come have a look and decide

904
00:50:44,375 --> 00:50:47,135
Speaker 7: what it is that's contributing to that moisture ingress and

905
00:50:47,215 --> 00:50:51,495
Speaker 7: to that mold growth. So it's not an answer, it's

906
00:50:51,535 --> 00:50:53,775
Speaker 7: just a series of other more questions to ask.

907
00:50:54,135 --> 00:50:59,135
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, the the window is up on the wall,

908
00:50:59,495 --> 00:51:02,135
Speaker 16: so there's and it looks really good or flashing around

909
00:51:02,295 --> 00:51:02,735
Speaker 16: the Yeah.

910
00:51:02,815 --> 00:51:08,695
Speaker 12: Sure, it's a a little bit of a mystery.

911
00:51:08,575 --> 00:51:11,135
Speaker 7: What you're saying, And I tell you what. The other thing,

912
00:51:11,495 --> 00:51:14,775
Speaker 7: the other thing that it may well be is that,

913
00:51:15,375 --> 00:51:18,975
Speaker 7: you know, if you've got an environment, you know, let's say,

914
00:51:19,015 --> 00:51:21,615
Speaker 7: prior to the addition of the double glazing, right, you

915
00:51:22,015 --> 00:51:24,655
Speaker 7: would have condensation on the inside of that window in

916
00:51:24,735 --> 00:51:30,055
Speaker 7: many cases, and even with the double glazing, which is good,

917
00:51:30,695 --> 00:51:33,255
Speaker 7: if you've got standard aluminium joinery, you might still get

918
00:51:33,255 --> 00:51:37,215
Speaker 7: some condensation on the actual joinery. So and the other

919
00:51:37,255 --> 00:51:40,015
Speaker 7: thing is if you've had a piece of furniture or

920
00:51:40,015 --> 00:51:44,295
Speaker 7: a dresser up against a wall and it's trapped. It

921
00:51:44,375 --> 00:51:47,575
Speaker 7: might just be the simple fact that you've had something

922
00:51:47,695 --> 00:51:50,135
Speaker 7: up against the wall for a long period of time.

923
00:51:50,615 --> 00:51:52,095
Speaker 8: That's meant that there's.

924
00:51:53,695 --> 00:51:56,535
Speaker 7: Moisture kind of gets trapped in that environment, doesn't dry out.

925
00:51:56,975 --> 00:51:59,295
Speaker 7: It might just be that, in which case, if you

926
00:51:59,375 --> 00:52:03,735
Speaker 7: don't place I've seen, you know, some research and some

927
00:52:03,775 --> 00:52:07,015
Speaker 7: evidence that goes you know, don't I mean we all

928
00:52:07,015 --> 00:52:08,975
Speaker 7: put if you've got a dress or a set of drawers,

929
00:52:09,095 --> 00:52:11,295
Speaker 7: or a tall boil or whatever, we tend to jam

930
00:52:11,335 --> 00:52:13,415
Speaker 7: them against the wall. Well, if they stay there for

931
00:52:13,495 --> 00:52:16,575
Speaker 7: years and years and years, potentially you create an environment

932
00:52:16,575 --> 00:52:18,575
Speaker 7: where moisture is trapped there where there's not a lot

933
00:52:18,615 --> 00:52:22,975
Speaker 7: of ventilation, and that that combined with the overall moisture

934
00:52:23,015 --> 00:52:26,015
Speaker 7: in the room, might be enough to create an environment

935
00:52:26,015 --> 00:52:28,855
Speaker 7: where mold growth occurs because you're seeing it on the

936
00:52:28,935 --> 00:52:33,015
Speaker 7: inside surface, right, So it might be internal moisture rather

937
00:52:33,095 --> 00:52:34,815
Speaker 7: than external moisture.

938
00:52:35,535 --> 00:52:41,575
Speaker 12: Right, I was wondering about So there's yep, whether that

939
00:52:42,455 --> 00:52:46,215
Speaker 12: where that becomes like gloving paper.

940
00:52:47,615 --> 00:52:51,255
Speaker 7: Where But then you know, it's really determining where the

941
00:52:51,295 --> 00:52:54,095
Speaker 7: source of that moisture is, and it might be internal moisture.

942
00:52:54,095 --> 00:52:56,415
Speaker 7: It might be external and it may just be a

943
00:52:56,495 --> 00:52:59,815
Speaker 7: lack of sort of ventilation by having something hard up

944
00:52:59,815 --> 00:53:02,415
Speaker 7: against the wall for an extended period of time. And

945
00:53:03,215 --> 00:53:05,615
Speaker 7: because what you're saying is that only in that area

946
00:53:05,655 --> 00:53:08,495
Speaker 7: where there was that item of furniture you've noticed the

947
00:53:08,535 --> 00:53:12,295
Speaker 7: mold growth. Yes, so that might also be part of it.

948
00:53:12,735 --> 00:53:15,735
Speaker 7: Good luck with the investigations, and actually I kind of

949
00:53:15,735 --> 00:53:17,375
Speaker 7: love to know how you get on with that. And also,

950
00:53:17,415 --> 00:53:20,495
Speaker 7: of course, obviously Calvin in terms of preparing it, you know,

951
00:53:20,535 --> 00:53:23,215
Speaker 7: make sure you treat that mold, let it dry out really,

952
00:53:23,255 --> 00:53:26,095
Speaker 7: really thoroughly before you do any painting over the top.

953
00:53:26,295 --> 00:53:29,535
Speaker 7: Talking about painting, we'll get Bryce McDermott on feely soon.

954
00:53:29,575 --> 00:53:32,255
Speaker 7: We'll take a short break. We'll talk to Diane. Then

955
00:53:32,295 --> 00:53:35,695
Speaker 7: we've got Bryce. If you've got any painting questions, text

956
00:53:35,695 --> 00:53:37,975
Speaker 7: them through to me now nine to nine two.

957
00:53:38,815 --> 00:53:42,335
Speaker 1: Twice God was but maybe called Pete first, vid your

958
00:53:42,375 --> 00:53:44,735
Speaker 1: work care for the Resident Builder News Talks.

959
00:53:44,735 --> 00:53:46,055
Speaker 4: They'd be right.

960
00:53:46,295 --> 00:53:50,455
Speaker 7: We've got Bryce on standby. But before that, quickly, Diane,

961
00:53:50,535 --> 00:53:51,415
Speaker 7: good morning to you.

962
00:53:52,455 --> 00:53:56,375
Speaker 3: Good morning. I'm only a quick quick question. I want

963
00:53:56,495 --> 00:54:00,135
Speaker 3: to put new vinyl on the floor and the laundry

964
00:54:01,175 --> 00:54:06,455
Speaker 3: and the laundry term. When I look inside, it's got bowl.

965
00:54:08,095 --> 00:54:09,095
Speaker 10: On each corner.

966
00:54:09,175 --> 00:54:14,815
Speaker 3: Now you can't put vinyl over that because you'd have

967
00:54:14,895 --> 00:54:15,535
Speaker 3: holes in it.

968
00:54:15,735 --> 00:54:18,055
Speaker 9: So you're all new.

969
00:54:19,415 --> 00:54:23,055
Speaker 3: The new tubs has to be bolted down as well.

970
00:54:24,615 --> 00:54:26,455
Speaker 7: Is it one of those sort of it's a pressed

971
00:54:26,575 --> 00:54:30,175
Speaker 7: metal tub with like a door on it, you know

972
00:54:30,215 --> 00:54:31,535
Speaker 7: it's it's it's.

973
00:54:31,175 --> 00:54:34,575
Speaker 10: Such a cupboard, yeah.

974
00:54:33,375 --> 00:54:35,295
Speaker 7: And then a stale steel tray at the top, and

975
00:54:35,335 --> 00:54:37,935
Speaker 7: then the fittings and you can connect to your washing

976
00:54:37,935 --> 00:54:42,495
Speaker 7: machine to it and those sorts of things. Yeah. Look,

977
00:54:42,135 --> 00:54:49,375
Speaker 7: I think the the lino layer will will be incredibly

978
00:54:49,375 --> 00:54:51,695
Speaker 7: grateful and you'll end up with a better job if

979
00:54:51,735 --> 00:54:54,295
Speaker 7: you could, because they're not terribly difficult to disconnect for

980
00:54:54,335 --> 00:54:57,775
Speaker 7: a plumber. Right, So ideally, I know it's it's two

981
00:54:57,815 --> 00:55:01,615
Speaker 7: extra trips and so on, but I would get the

982
00:55:01,615 --> 00:55:05,895
Speaker 7: plumber in, disconnect it, get the lino layer in, do

983
00:55:06,055 --> 00:55:08,855
Speaker 7: the I know, all the way through there, and then

984
00:55:09,095 --> 00:55:12,175
Speaker 7: reinstall that tub on top of the lino.

985
00:55:13,535 --> 00:55:19,775
Speaker 3: Oh. So if I bought a new unit new laundry units, now, Chris,

986
00:55:19,855 --> 00:55:24,175
Speaker 3: this is an older one. Do you laundry units now

987
00:55:24,895 --> 00:55:27,415
Speaker 3: sit on the floor or do they have to be bolted.

988
00:55:28,095 --> 00:55:30,175
Speaker 7: And what you'll find those little bolts that you can

989
00:55:30,175 --> 00:55:32,095
Speaker 7: see when you look inside or when you get down

990
00:55:32,135 --> 00:55:35,015
Speaker 7: your hands and knees and you look underneath, they're really

991
00:55:35,095 --> 00:55:38,055
Speaker 7: just there as adjustment, right, So they're not actually fixed

992
00:55:38,055 --> 00:55:43,735
Speaker 7: to the floor. Oh, they're just like it's a bolt

993
00:55:43,975 --> 00:55:46,815
Speaker 7: with a nut or two nuts, and you can change

994
00:55:46,815 --> 00:55:50,335
Speaker 7: the adjustment to level them up. But they're not actually

995
00:55:50,415 --> 00:55:52,575
Speaker 7: fixed to the well. In my experience, they're not fixed

996
00:55:52,575 --> 00:55:55,215
Speaker 7: to the floor. So there'll be a couple of fixings

997
00:55:55,215 --> 00:55:58,335
Speaker 7: at the back into the wall. You could get someone

998
00:55:58,375 --> 00:56:02,335
Speaker 7: and disconnect the pipes, lift that out and yeah, if

999
00:56:02,335 --> 00:56:04,415
Speaker 7: you want to replace it, if it's looking like it's

1000
00:56:04,535 --> 00:56:07,015
Speaker 7: end of life, then get a new one ready, have

1001
00:56:07,095 --> 00:56:09,135
Speaker 7: the old one ripped out, do the lino put the

1002
00:56:09,135 --> 00:56:09,975
Speaker 7: new one in on top.

1003
00:56:10,975 --> 00:56:12,975
Speaker 3: Can you cut those bolts off the floor?

1004
00:56:14,415 --> 00:56:17,015
Speaker 7: Well, they're there for a reason, and if the floor's

1005
00:56:17,055 --> 00:56:21,335
Speaker 7: not exactly level, then they'll they help you adjust it. Also,

1006
00:56:21,975 --> 00:56:24,735
Speaker 7: you really don't want the bottom of the cabinet sitting

1007
00:56:24,775 --> 00:56:28,455
Speaker 7: on the ground because it will trap moisture and it

1008
00:56:28,495 --> 00:56:30,735
Speaker 7: will start to rust. So there's a reason that it's

1009
00:56:30,815 --> 00:56:31,975
Speaker 7: up off the ground slightly.

1010
00:56:32,695 --> 00:56:35,575
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, okay, thank you, good.

1011
00:56:35,535 --> 00:56:39,215
Speaker 7: Luck, all the best, take care. See then, and I

1012
00:56:39,335 --> 00:56:41,815
Speaker 7: tell you what, if they are looking a bit chabby,

1013
00:56:41,975 --> 00:56:44,295
Speaker 7: I've had a reasonable success at giving them a bit

1014
00:56:44,295 --> 00:56:47,415
Speaker 7: of a touch up with the paint. I won't say

1015
00:56:47,415 --> 00:56:49,575
Speaker 7: that because Bryce is listening and he'll be going you

1016
00:56:49,615 --> 00:56:52,175
Speaker 7: can't do that anyway. If you want to know the

1017
00:56:52,255 --> 00:56:54,815
Speaker 7: right way to do things, then our painting expert Bryce

1018
00:56:54,855 --> 00:56:57,175
Speaker 7: from Razine is on the line. Will be back in

1019
00:56:57,375 --> 00:56:59,655
Speaker 7: just a couple of minutes. If you've got some specific

1020
00:56:59,735 --> 00:57:03,015
Speaker 7: painting questions, text them through to me now nine two

1021
00:57:03,255 --> 00:57:05,215
Speaker 7: nine two. It is seven to twenty five.

1022
00:57:06,055 --> 00:57:09,215
Speaker 1: On sorting the garden, asked feet for a hand the

1023
00:57:09,335 --> 00:57:11,855
Speaker 1: resident builder with pet wolfcab call.

1024
00:57:15,055 --> 00:57:18,095
Speaker 7: Oh, this is fantastic. We've got like a Shakespearean type

1025
00:57:18,175 --> 00:57:21,095
Speaker 7: question in here. To paint or not to paint?

1026
00:57:21,415 --> 00:57:22,255
Speaker 8: That is the question.

1027
00:57:22,415 --> 00:57:24,415
Speaker 7: Anyway, we'll get to that in a minute because on

1028
00:57:24,495 --> 00:57:28,215
Speaker 7: the line is our painting expert Bryce McDermott from the

1029
00:57:28,255 --> 00:57:29,255
Speaker 7: good people at Razine.

1030
00:57:29,335 --> 00:57:32,215
Speaker 4: Greeting sir, greetings, are we indeed?

1031
00:57:32,455 --> 00:57:36,575
Speaker 7: I'm feeling all Shakespearean. Now to paint or not to paint?

1032
00:57:36,655 --> 00:57:39,615
Speaker 7: That is the question. Someone will be able to tell

1033
00:57:39,695 --> 00:57:42,455
Speaker 7: me what particular piece of Shakespeare that came from. But

1034
00:57:42,455 --> 00:57:44,695
Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure at Shakespeare. Otherwise I'm just going to

1035
00:57:44,775 --> 00:57:45,895
Speaker 7: look like a muppet, which.

1036
00:57:45,735 --> 00:57:47,735
Speaker 13: Is thank you.

1037
00:57:47,815 --> 00:57:50,735
Speaker 7: There you go. You and I were went to the

1038
00:57:50,775 --> 00:57:52,255
Speaker 7: right school at the right time to know.

1039
00:57:52,215 --> 00:57:53,095
Speaker 8: All that stuff.

1040
00:57:53,655 --> 00:57:56,295
Speaker 7: Ridy, Oh, let's not get distracted. But it is a

1041
00:57:56,415 --> 00:58:00,175
Speaker 7: very good question. Hey, but before then, what's on your mind.

1042
00:58:01,975 --> 00:58:05,335
Speaker 13: I'm just I'll just do a little bit of painter advertising.

1043
00:58:05,375 --> 00:58:08,855
Speaker 13: You know, it's been a quiet winter this year, and

1044
00:58:09,695 --> 00:58:11,295
Speaker 13: you know, if you want to book a painter now

1045
00:58:11,575 --> 00:58:13,815
Speaker 13: for you to do your house up for Christmas and

1046
00:58:13,855 --> 00:58:15,895
Speaker 13: stuff like that. So now it is a good time.

1047
00:58:16,015 --> 00:58:20,415
Speaker 13: So yeah, get out there and book a painter. I'm

1048
00:58:20,535 --> 00:58:22,255
Speaker 13: sure there'll be lots of guys that would be keen

1049
00:58:22,295 --> 00:58:24,735
Speaker 13: to to excuse me, do the work.

1050
00:58:24,935 --> 00:58:27,775
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's not a bad time to be scouting around

1051
00:58:27,775 --> 00:58:29,055
Speaker 7: looking for tradees to be fair.

1052
00:58:29,735 --> 00:58:31,055
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, brilliant.

1053
00:58:31,575 --> 00:58:35,095
Speaker 7: Right, let's deal with the Shakespeare one. A question for

1054
00:58:35,175 --> 00:58:37,935
Speaker 7: your razine expert to paint or not to paint? That

1055
00:58:38,095 --> 00:58:40,495
Speaker 7: is the question corrugated iron fence.

1056
00:58:41,895 --> 00:58:44,415
Speaker 13: Hmmmm, bear or painted.

1057
00:58:45,735 --> 00:58:50,575
Speaker 7: Let's assume that it's I wonder whether they've done what

1058
00:58:50,655 --> 00:58:52,455
Speaker 7: I did a couple of years ago, which is I

1059
00:58:52,775 --> 00:58:54,975
Speaker 7: I went round to my mate who runs a roofing company,

1060
00:58:55,055 --> 00:58:58,535
Speaker 7: and I hoovered up all of his spare sheets and

1061
00:58:58,615 --> 00:59:01,095
Speaker 7: I built myself a new fence, and I put my

1062
00:59:01,415 --> 00:59:07,655
Speaker 7: multi colored sheets facing inside, and I wanted them not

1063
00:59:07,815 --> 00:59:12,495
Speaker 7: to be multi colored, and so I've painted them. So

1064
00:59:12,655 --> 00:59:15,655
Speaker 7: let's say you've got some color steel sheets. You've done

1065
00:59:15,655 --> 00:59:18,815
Speaker 7: your Corrigo Dion fence, which I love, but you've picked

1066
00:59:18,895 --> 00:59:21,295
Speaker 7: up a few different colored sheets, and you want to

1067
00:59:21,295 --> 00:59:22,655
Speaker 7: make them all the same color.

1068
00:59:22,695 --> 00:59:23,295
Speaker 8: What would you do?

1069
00:59:24,255 --> 00:59:29,255
Speaker 13: Okay, obviously they'll need to be clean. Yeah, we have

1070
00:59:29,375 --> 00:59:33,135
Speaker 13: a primer that's called pre coated steel primer which you

1071
00:59:33,175 --> 00:59:36,335
Speaker 13: can put on. It's an oil based product, does smell

1072
00:59:36,375 --> 00:59:40,495
Speaker 13: a bit, and then you can you can being a fence,

1073
00:59:40,895 --> 00:59:43,055
Speaker 13: you wouldn't have to put roof paint on it as such,

1074
00:59:43,255 --> 00:59:45,455
Speaker 13: but you could put some at roof on it, or

1075
00:59:45,575 --> 00:59:47,935
Speaker 13: you could you could just coat it with lum besider

1076
00:59:48,495 --> 00:59:52,375
Speaker 13: and you know, easy enough to change the color and

1077
00:59:52,375 --> 00:59:53,335
Speaker 13: when the mood takes you.

1078
00:59:54,895 --> 00:59:58,175
Speaker 7: Okay, let's just on this. Let's imagine that it's a

1079
00:59:58,175 --> 01:00:01,455
Speaker 7: good old fashioned Corrigo din fence that's either in galve

1080
01:00:01,695 --> 01:00:04,215
Speaker 7: or zinc a loom. More likely if it's new, so

1081
01:00:04,335 --> 01:00:11,255
Speaker 7: it's unpainted raw, what would you do?

1082
01:00:12,215 --> 01:00:15,015
Speaker 13: I would make sure there's no rust or anything like

1083
01:00:15,055 --> 01:00:17,375
Speaker 13: that on us. There is, you know, you just just

1084
01:00:17,575 --> 01:00:22,215
Speaker 13: remove the loose rust and spot prime. That was GP primer,

1085
01:00:23,015 --> 01:00:25,295
Speaker 13: which is a general purpose primer, and then a full

1086
01:00:25,335 --> 01:00:28,935
Speaker 13: coat of galvo one, which is our oil based galvanized

1087
01:00:28,935 --> 01:00:34,375
Speaker 13: iron primer, and then proceed as to the color steel

1088
01:00:34,415 --> 01:00:35,135
Speaker 13: sheets as well.

1089
01:00:35,855 --> 01:00:40,415
Speaker 7: A brilliant radio metal garage door that's a little bit powdery.

1090
01:00:40,535 --> 01:00:42,895
Speaker 7: Is it possible to repaint? And if so, how do

1091
01:00:42,975 --> 01:00:43,695
Speaker 7: I go about it?

1092
01:00:43,735 --> 01:00:49,415
Speaker 13: From Pauline Again, If it's color steel, yes, you'll need

1093
01:00:49,455 --> 01:00:51,415
Speaker 13: to wash it down. If it's powdery, you'll need to

1094
01:00:51,455 --> 01:00:55,255
Speaker 13: wash it down with roof and metal wash and give

1095
01:00:55,295 --> 01:00:57,735
Speaker 13: it a good rinse and let it dry. Make sure

1096
01:00:57,815 --> 01:01:01,495
Speaker 13: there's If it's a I presume it's a tilted door

1097
01:01:01,615 --> 01:01:03,895
Speaker 13: or if it's a roller door, you have to get

1098
01:01:03,935 --> 01:01:07,255
Speaker 13: all the grease out of the channels right another side

1099
01:01:07,255 --> 01:01:11,335
Speaker 13: of the door. Yeah, because paint won't stick to that.

1100
01:01:12,735 --> 01:01:15,015
Speaker 13: But let's just say it's a tilted door, and then

1101
01:01:15,135 --> 01:01:18,775
Speaker 13: you know, proceed with the pre coated steel primer. Once

1102
01:01:18,775 --> 01:01:22,175
Speaker 13: it's all clean and dry and ready to go, and

1103
01:01:22,215 --> 01:01:25,175
Speaker 13: then two coats of summit.

1104
01:01:24,935 --> 01:01:28,535
Speaker 7: Roof Summit roof again, and that's is there a little

1105
01:01:28,535 --> 01:01:30,775
Speaker 7: bit of flexibility, a little bit of stretch in that.

1106
01:01:32,055 --> 01:01:35,215
Speaker 13: Well, it's a water based roof paint basically, but you know,

1107
01:01:35,415 --> 01:01:38,735
Speaker 13: anything metal basically it will work quite happily on it.

1108
01:01:38,815 --> 01:01:41,815
Speaker 13: And it's got a nice loosing finish as well, you know,

1109
01:01:41,975 --> 01:01:44,855
Speaker 13: similar to what color steel would be, you know, if

1110
01:01:44,855 --> 01:01:46,135
Speaker 13: you bought it straight from the yard.

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01:01:46,375 --> 01:01:46,575
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1112
01:01:46,655 --> 01:01:50,215
Speaker 7: Sure, Now this is an interesting one too. Texture has

1113
01:01:50,375 --> 01:01:54,055
Speaker 7: come through and said, look, I've I'm getting some new

1114
01:01:54,215 --> 01:01:58,975
Speaker 7: joinery made, and my joiner is telling me I need

1115
01:01:58,975 --> 01:02:04,455
Speaker 7: to start with a full oil based primer system. What's

1116
01:02:04,495 --> 01:02:05,415
Speaker 7: your response to that?

1117
01:02:09,415 --> 01:02:11,695
Speaker 13: Yeah, yeah, I do. What the join us say is

1118
01:02:11,735 --> 01:02:15,215
Speaker 13: because I've dealt with a couple of joiners in the

1119
01:02:15,215 --> 01:02:18,615
Speaker 13: past who insist on that system. Yes, basically, because you

1120
01:02:18,655 --> 01:02:22,935
Speaker 13: know it's part of their warranty. You always do what

1121
01:02:22,975 --> 01:02:25,175
Speaker 13: the joiner the join us says, and you know, if

1122
01:02:25,215 --> 01:02:27,895
Speaker 13: there is any issues, at least you've followed everything to

1123
01:02:27,935 --> 01:02:28,335
Speaker 13: the letter.

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01:02:28,615 --> 01:02:30,695
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, in some ways, I'm a little bit

1125
01:02:31,415 --> 01:02:33,815
Speaker 7: I mean it's more and more common these days for

1126
01:02:33,895 --> 01:02:37,135
Speaker 7: the joiner to actually apply that first coat. You know,

1127
01:02:37,175 --> 01:02:40,175
Speaker 7: they've set up often a little spray booth or something

1128
01:02:40,215 --> 01:02:43,695
Speaker 7: like that in the in their factory, and so joinery

1129
01:02:43,895 --> 01:02:48,055
Speaker 7: gets sent to site, not bear. But I guess if

1130
01:02:48,055 --> 01:02:50,535
Speaker 7: it is going to cite bear, then it's it's up

1131
01:02:50,615 --> 01:02:53,695
Speaker 7: to you to make sure that you prime it thoroughly.

1132
01:02:53,855 --> 01:02:56,375
Speaker 7: And if the recommendation is oil based, then yeah, you

1133
01:02:56,495 --> 01:02:59,295
Speaker 7: right stick with that. But you know, i'd suggest to

1134
01:02:59,375 --> 01:03:02,895
Speaker 7: someone that they take the hardware off and like prime

1135
01:03:03,095 --> 01:03:06,215
Speaker 7: weather behind the hinge for example, run leaving that bear.

1136
01:03:06,695 --> 01:03:10,055
Speaker 7: And of course it's a bugbear of mine people that

1137
01:03:10,135 --> 01:03:12,655
Speaker 7: don't prime like the top and the bottom of a door,

1138
01:03:12,775 --> 01:03:14,135
Speaker 7: especially an exterior door.

1139
01:03:15,015 --> 01:03:18,215
Speaker 13: Yes, you know, I've met inspectors that go around with

1140
01:03:18,255 --> 01:03:22,215
Speaker 13: a mirror and will put the inspection mirror over the

1141
01:03:22,255 --> 01:03:24,135
Speaker 13: top of the door to see at the top in

1142
01:03:24,175 --> 01:03:25,375
Speaker 13: the bottom. So that should be.

1143
01:03:28,015 --> 01:03:28,215
Speaker 17: Right.

1144
01:03:28,455 --> 01:03:30,975
Speaker 7: Actually, on a similar vein, can you tell me the

1145
01:03:30,975 --> 01:03:35,175
Speaker 7: best paint to use on a pre primed barge board?

1146
01:03:35,495 --> 01:03:37,695
Speaker 7: So can we unpack this a little bit, because again,

1147
01:03:38,175 --> 01:03:42,495
Speaker 7: you know, weather boards, barge boards, faces, that sort of thing.

1148
01:03:42,575 --> 01:03:46,335
Speaker 7: If you're buying them, they're coming to you typically with

1149
01:03:47,655 --> 01:03:51,575
Speaker 7: a coat of paint on them. I've always seen that

1150
01:03:51,695 --> 01:03:54,935
Speaker 7: as kind of just there to protect the timber during

1151
01:03:55,015 --> 01:04:00,215
Speaker 7: delivery and installation. How from a technical point of view,

1152
01:04:00,295 --> 01:04:02,615
Speaker 7: if you're seeing, you know you've you've gone down, you've

1153
01:04:02,695 --> 01:04:05,375
Speaker 7: in this case, you've picked up a brand new bit

1154
01:04:05,375 --> 01:04:08,095
Speaker 7: of barge board. It's got a primer coat on it.

1155
01:04:08,215 --> 01:04:09,815
Speaker 7: What's the correct thing to do?

1156
01:04:11,255 --> 01:04:14,695
Speaker 13: The correct thing to do would be, you know, obviously

1157
01:04:14,735 --> 01:04:16,615
Speaker 13: read the ticket on the on the on the on

1158
01:04:16,655 --> 01:04:20,615
Speaker 13: the timber. Yes, you've primer their manufacturer recommends. But generally,

1159
01:04:21,095 --> 01:04:24,135
Speaker 13: you know, most of my guys will you know, they'll

1160
01:04:24,135 --> 01:04:27,975
Speaker 13: go around and I'll spot prim all the nail holes,

1161
01:04:28,135 --> 01:04:31,895
Speaker 13: fill them and then reprime those. But and then after

1162
01:04:31,935 --> 01:04:36,095
Speaker 13: that they'll give it a full coat of acrylic primer advocate. Yes,

1163
01:04:36,975 --> 01:04:39,655
Speaker 13: you know, because simpathly because the holding primers, you know,

1164
01:04:39,775 --> 01:04:41,455
Speaker 13: you don't know how long they've been in the yard.

1165
01:04:41,855 --> 01:04:44,415
Speaker 13: You know, they don't last as long as you know,

1166
01:04:44,935 --> 01:04:48,455
Speaker 13: normal normal sort of primers, you know, especially under sunlight

1167
01:04:48,495 --> 01:04:51,135
Speaker 13: and stuff like that. So you know, you've got to

1168
01:04:51,215 --> 01:04:54,935
Speaker 13: be it's it's best to reprime the whole thing, and

1169
01:04:55,255 --> 01:04:56,775
Speaker 13: that way you've got a good solid base.

1170
01:04:57,375 --> 01:05:00,175
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I've I've always been surprised and it's not

1171
01:05:00,215 --> 01:05:02,455
Speaker 7: at all the criticism of the pre prime boards. I

1172
01:05:02,455 --> 01:05:06,255
Speaker 7: think they're a great innovation, right having you know, built

1173
01:05:06,375 --> 01:05:09,015
Speaker 7: at a time where you got boards that were completely

1174
01:05:09,095 --> 01:05:11,135
Speaker 7: raw and you spent hours priming them and all.

1175
01:05:11,095 --> 01:05:11,575
Speaker 8: The rest of it.

1176
01:05:11,855 --> 01:05:14,015
Speaker 7: So I think they're really good. But what I've noticed

1177
01:05:14,055 --> 01:05:16,495
Speaker 7: is that it's amazing how like if you take a

1178
01:05:16,495 --> 01:05:19,095
Speaker 7: bit of sandpaper and give them a light rub, how

1179
01:05:19,175 --> 01:05:23,295
Speaker 7: quickly that that holding primer comes off in a sense,

1180
01:05:23,575 --> 01:05:25,815
Speaker 7: you know, so like you seem to get a lot

1181
01:05:25,855 --> 01:05:28,215
Speaker 7: of dust when you're sanding them. But I think it's

1182
01:05:29,015 --> 01:05:33,335
Speaker 7: really necessary to give them a light sand, make sure

1183
01:05:33,335 --> 01:05:37,495
Speaker 7: that everything's firm, and then another primer. And I've seen

1184
01:05:37,495 --> 01:05:39,935
Speaker 7: a couple of jobs where people have just gone, oh good,

1185
01:05:39,975 --> 01:05:42,295
Speaker 7: it's got a primer coat. I'm just going straight on

1186
01:05:42,415 --> 01:05:45,615
Speaker 7: with my top coat. And I think it shows, and

1187
01:05:45,655 --> 01:05:47,575
Speaker 7: I think in some cases it'll fail.

1188
01:05:48,615 --> 01:05:49,615
Speaker 13: Yeah, it'll peel off.

1189
01:05:50,415 --> 01:05:50,695
Speaker 8: Yeah.

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01:05:50,735 --> 01:05:53,175
Speaker 13: We do make a holding primer that, you know, we

1191
01:05:53,255 --> 01:05:58,935
Speaker 13: sell to a number of different suppliers. It's blue and color.

1192
01:05:59,055 --> 01:06:03,415
Speaker 13: I think it's called true prime. It does stand up,

1193
01:06:03,655 --> 01:06:06,255
Speaker 13: you know a lot better to UV and things like that.

1194
01:06:07,015 --> 01:06:10,615
Speaker 13: If you're planning on a light color and things like that.

1195
01:06:10,655 --> 01:06:13,175
Speaker 13: In all cases, it's best to you know, put a

1196
01:06:13,215 --> 01:06:15,175
Speaker 13: white undercoat on it, you know, to give you that

1197
01:06:15,295 --> 01:06:17,535
Speaker 13: solid base anyway, right.

1198
01:06:17,615 --> 01:06:18,455
Speaker 8: Yeah, perfect.

1199
01:06:20,495 --> 01:06:22,695
Speaker 7: A couple of questions of a similar vein, which is,

1200
01:06:22,775 --> 01:06:24,295
Speaker 7: you know, we're looking for magic paint?

1201
01:06:25,095 --> 01:06:25,375
Speaker 3: Is there?

1202
01:06:25,615 --> 01:06:26,615
Speaker 7: What's the best.

1203
01:06:28,215 --> 01:06:29,015
Speaker 8: Sorry I'm laughing.

1204
01:06:29,295 --> 01:06:32,175
Speaker 7: What's the best paint inside walls? Is there any paint

1205
01:06:32,215 --> 01:06:34,055
Speaker 7: that only needs one coat of paint?

1206
01:06:35,655 --> 01:06:41,775
Speaker 13: No, I'm over complicate things.

1207
01:06:41,815 --> 01:06:44,255
Speaker 7: No, No, it was a complete sentence.

1208
01:06:44,415 --> 01:06:50,575
Speaker 18: Yeah, perfect, Yeah, yeah, if you read the directions, if

1209
01:06:50,575 --> 01:06:53,495
Speaker 18: you read the you know, the data square on the

1210
01:06:53,575 --> 01:06:55,975
Speaker 18: can and things like that, you know the usual number.

1211
01:06:55,775 --> 01:07:01,015
Speaker 13: Of coaches too, Yes, yeah, yeah, just just do that.

1212
01:07:01,415 --> 01:07:06,015
Speaker 7: Yeah, brilliant, brilliant. Right, I'll just read this out and

1213
01:07:06,055 --> 01:07:08,295
Speaker 7: you can your own comment. Good morning, Bryce. Need to

1214
01:07:08,415 --> 01:07:13,055
Speaker 7: repaint old painted outside boards. Ninety percent of the old

1215
01:07:13,135 --> 01:07:16,735
Speaker 7: paint flaked off by careful water blasting. Is there a

1216
01:07:16,855 --> 01:07:20,295
Speaker 7: magic paint to cover the remaining old paint? Or am

1217
01:07:20,335 --> 01:07:24,775
Speaker 7: I into standing? It isn't an attractive finish required, just protection,

1218
01:07:25,255 --> 01:07:28,855
Speaker 7: thanks Graham.

1219
01:07:29,215 --> 01:07:32,055
Speaker 13: I mean, you know, ninety percent of it's gone, but wow,

1220
01:07:32,175 --> 01:07:37,815
Speaker 13: you know the remaining ten percent you could could fail

1221
01:07:37,895 --> 01:07:39,935
Speaker 13: as well. You know, once you've put the paint in

1222
01:07:39,975 --> 01:07:42,855
Speaker 13: the new coatings on top, you know, serve as tensin

1223
01:07:42,935 --> 01:07:46,255
Speaker 13: that it creates and things like that can actually make

1224
01:07:46,335 --> 01:07:50,055
Speaker 13: old cotings blister off. Plus if it's really old paint

1225
01:07:50,055 --> 01:07:52,935
Speaker 13: as well, you know you could be dealing with lead

1226
01:07:52,935 --> 01:07:54,655
Speaker 13: as well, so you've got to be pretty careful.

1227
01:07:55,695 --> 01:08:00,775
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, you know I would. I would probably.

1228
01:08:00,415 --> 01:08:02,895
Speaker 7: Try and knock the real I mean, if ninety percent

1229
01:08:02,975 --> 01:08:05,655
Speaker 7: of your old paint came off when you water blasted it,

1230
01:08:06,895 --> 01:08:09,215
Speaker 7: while the rest is just a bit lazy and just

1231
01:08:09,295 --> 01:08:10,775
Speaker 7: waiting to fall off, now.

1232
01:08:10,855 --> 01:08:13,815
Speaker 13: You know, well, you know the result will be disappointing,

1233
01:08:14,095 --> 01:08:16,215
Speaker 13: but you've also going to think of your health as well,

1234
01:08:16,255 --> 01:08:18,775
Speaker 13: So pop into one of the stores and get a

1235
01:08:18,855 --> 01:08:20,055
Speaker 13: lead test kit. We sell them.

1236
01:08:20,095 --> 01:08:21,975
Speaker 8: Yes, absolutely.

1237
01:08:22,175 --> 01:08:24,575
Speaker 7: And now this is a really interesting one too, following

1238
01:08:24,615 --> 01:08:27,695
Speaker 7: on sort of from the discussion around pre prime. So

1239
01:08:27,735 --> 01:08:30,815
Speaker 7: i'll just read this text out. We've had to effectively

1240
01:08:30,855 --> 01:08:35,095
Speaker 7: paint our new build house twice. We've built a weather

1241
01:08:35,135 --> 01:08:38,135
Speaker 7: board house, built it over a wet winter, painted in

1242
01:08:38,215 --> 01:08:41,575
Speaker 7: a mid gray in spring. Over the summer, a lot

1243
01:08:41,655 --> 01:08:44,455
Speaker 7: of the weather boards have shrunk, revealing up to five

1244
01:08:44,535 --> 01:08:47,335
Speaker 7: millimeters of the yellow primer. So I had to go

1245
01:08:47,415 --> 01:08:49,815
Speaker 7: around and touch up all of those areas. Have you

1246
01:08:49,895 --> 01:08:53,775
Speaker 7: heard of this happening before in hindsight, other than building

1247
01:08:53,815 --> 01:08:58,975
Speaker 7: over summer and painting in autumn. Are we just unlucky?

1248
01:08:59,135 --> 01:08:59,615
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1249
01:08:59,815 --> 01:09:02,815
Speaker 7: You know, love the razine paint. But that's and I

1250
01:09:02,855 --> 01:09:05,735
Speaker 7: don't I think these things are not connected necessarily, But

1251
01:09:06,975 --> 01:09:10,295
Speaker 7: people underestimate I think, just how much movement you might

1252
01:09:10,415 --> 01:09:13,535
Speaker 7: have in weather boards. And they're designed to move, so

1253
01:09:13,575 --> 01:09:16,495
Speaker 7: they're doing exactly what they're supposed to do. But in

1254
01:09:16,535 --> 01:09:20,335
Speaker 7: this instance here, because that it's shrunk, you're seeing the

1255
01:09:20,415 --> 01:09:21,095
Speaker 7: old primer.

1256
01:09:22,135 --> 01:09:26,055
Speaker 13: Yeah. I mean if if you're in a perfect world,

1257
01:09:26,135 --> 01:09:29,455
Speaker 13: you know when when the builder is fixing the weatherboards,

1258
01:09:29,455 --> 01:09:32,655
Speaker 13: you know, you know, you'd get the painter in and

1259
01:09:32,735 --> 01:09:35,215
Speaker 13: he'd prime them up and put one coat of the

1260
01:09:35,255 --> 01:09:39,055
Speaker 13: final color on the board before it's attached to the house.

1261
01:09:39,655 --> 01:09:41,535
Speaker 13: That way, if you do get some movement, you don't

1262
01:09:41,575 --> 01:09:47,415
Speaker 13: see that little yellow line. Timber is a movable so ubstrate. Absolutely,

1263
01:09:47,615 --> 01:09:52,535
Speaker 13: it's you know, it cracks, it moves, it expands, it contracts,

1264
01:09:52,575 --> 01:09:54,975
Speaker 13: you know, it does all sorts of things. It's the

1265
01:09:55,095 --> 01:09:56,015
Speaker 13: natural material.

1266
01:09:56,335 --> 01:09:56,535
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1267
01:09:56,535 --> 01:10:01,855
Speaker 7: Absolutely, last one. Today, someone wants to paint the concrete

1268
01:10:01,935 --> 01:10:04,815
Speaker 7: base of a veranda. The surface is in good condition

1269
01:10:05,975 --> 01:10:11,655
Speaker 7: and I intend to use. I think they're actually talking

1270
01:10:11,695 --> 01:10:15,215
Speaker 7: about the level area that you walk on, because what

1271
01:10:15,255 --> 01:10:19,615
Speaker 7: they want to do is paint with some grip. Talking

1272
01:10:19,655 --> 01:10:21,335
Speaker 7: to a friend that's been suggested that I need to

1273
01:10:21,375 --> 01:10:24,415
Speaker 7: treat the surface before I top coat. It isn't necessary.

1274
01:10:24,415 --> 01:10:27,255
Speaker 7: And what's it called? So in terms of prepping, like

1275
01:10:27,335 --> 01:10:30,295
Speaker 7: a concrete patio for painting, what would you do?

1276
01:10:30,335 --> 01:10:34,135
Speaker 4: In terms of prep, you know, you can get it

1277
01:10:34,215 --> 01:10:34,735
Speaker 4: clean and.

1278
01:10:36,215 --> 01:10:38,375
Speaker 13: Ready to accept paint, i e. You know, give it

1279
01:10:38,415 --> 01:10:41,535
Speaker 13: a good water blasts, mold treatment and stuff like that.

1280
01:10:42,695 --> 01:10:45,535
Speaker 13: If it's got it, if it's slightly rough and old,

1281
01:10:46,055 --> 01:10:48,255
Speaker 13: then I would put a Cato sure seal on it,

1282
01:10:48,375 --> 01:10:52,695
Speaker 13: oil based, and then the top coats would be walk on,

1283
01:10:52,775 --> 01:10:57,495
Speaker 13: which is extremely non slip of my front porch. And

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Speaker 13: you know, with this weather we're having and you know,

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Speaker 13: lots of water and everything, it is very very non slip.

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Speaker 13: So the product is called walk on, So use that.

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Speaker 7: I have a look for that brilliant. Oh mate, that's

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Speaker 7: that's awesome, And I'm please we covered off some of

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Speaker 7: that stuff around, you know, pre prime boards and proper

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Speaker 7: treatment and so on, because I'm sure that you guys.

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Speaker 7: I mean I know that like yourself and Jay will

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Speaker 7: often get called out and someone's gone, I think I've

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01:11:22,815 --> 01:11:25,615
Speaker 7: got a problem. And I wonder whether sometimes it's that

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01:11:27,255 --> 01:11:30,095
Speaker 7: thinking that there's an easy way. I'm just going to

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Speaker 7: go and throw a code of paint over the top

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Speaker 7: of it when that's not the recommended pathway.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's it's a very common thing. And you know,

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Speaker 13: people do get quite upset when they see things like

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Speaker 13: that happening on their house. Yeah, so you know there's

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01:11:48,455 --> 01:11:51,015
Speaker 13: an easy cure, but sometimes you know that, you know,

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Speaker 13: people are just pushed for time and they just can't

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Speaker 13: do it. But it's the best thing to do.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, brilliant, appreciate it. Bryce, Thank you very much for

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Speaker 7: your time this morning. Okay, all the best, do you

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Speaker 7: take care. That's sprice our painting expert from the good

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Speaker 7: people at Razien. That's where you get all the good

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Speaker 7: advice and the great products as well. So pop onto

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Speaker 7: the old Razine color shop righty oh seven forty three

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Speaker 7: back to your call. So, if you've got a question

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Speaker 7: of a building nature, we have talked about driveways, silicon removers, drainage,

1311
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Speaker 7: CAD program stripping, wallpaper stripping, wallpaper and the covering molds

1312
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Speaker 7: that's kind of behind the wallpaper, sitting on the surface

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Speaker 7: of the plaster board. You know, is it a leak

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Speaker 7: from outside or is it potentially just moisture. That's that

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Speaker 7: internal moisture that's always inside our house. It's being trapped

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Speaker 7: there and by furniture that we place too close to

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Speaker 7: the wall. And I've saw some research it might have

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Speaker 7: been a brand brand's paper or something similar that says,

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Speaker 7: you know, if like most of us, you've got the

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Speaker 7: couch and it's hard up against the wall every now

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Speaker 7: and then, just pull it forward and allow that space

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Speaker 7: to ventilate as well. I think that's really important. I

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Speaker 7: w eight hundred eighty ten eighty. We get back into

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Speaker 7: your building questions right now. You can call us right now.

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Speaker 7: Get a spear line. I eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 7: It is seven forty four.

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Speaker 1: Your painting the ceiling, fixing with fans, or wondering how

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01:13:09,295 --> 01:13:10,695
Speaker 1: to fix that hole in the wall.

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Speaker 4: Give Peter wolf Gabber call on.

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Speaker 19: Eighty.

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Speaker 4: The resident builder on Youth Dogs' br.

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Speaker 7: News Talk said b coming up twelve minutes away, thirteen

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Speaker 7: minutes away from eight o'clock and as always in the

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Speaker 7: next hour, the Root Climb Past will join us from

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Speaker 7: eight thirty. So if you have any gardening or intomological questions,

1336
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Speaker 7: questions about the wonderful world of bugs, you can bring

1337
01:13:33,575 --> 01:13:35,855
Speaker 7: those to us from eight point thirty this morning with

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Speaker 7: Red Climb pass. Right now we're talking all things building

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01:13:38,895 --> 01:13:42,495
Speaker 7: and construction. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is

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Speaker 7: that number to call?

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Speaker 12: Paul?

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Speaker 7: Good morning, Good morning.

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Speaker 19: I just got a question on the decking timber. Now,

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01:13:52,135 --> 01:13:57,095
Speaker 19: I've got a deck that's got old pined decking timber

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01:13:57,135 --> 01:14:00,815
Speaker 19: on it and I'm thinking about it, you know, maybe

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01:14:00,935 --> 01:14:02,575
Speaker 19: upgrading it to something else.

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Speaker 12: But do you have the.

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Speaker 19: I mean that's got the groups facing up?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 19: What about you know?

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01:14:10,775 --> 01:14:11,455
Speaker 12: I mean I've.

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Speaker 19: Googled it and a couple of guys say that if

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01:14:15,335 --> 01:14:17,615
Speaker 19: you have the if you have the grooves down, it

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01:14:18,175 --> 01:14:23,535
Speaker 19: helps with the Yeah, with the air circulation under Yes.

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01:14:23,935 --> 01:14:27,615
Speaker 19: Except so what do you say, I mean up or

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Speaker 19: down for the grooves?

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah. So there's a couple of things there. One

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01:14:35,175 --> 01:14:41,055
Speaker 7: is typically like I would never typically do grooves up right,

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Speaker 7: I will on the nosing for stairs or on stair treads.

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Speaker 7: So if I'm bringing my decking down the stairs because

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Speaker 7: I think it's it is effective in terms of slip resistance,

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Speaker 7: and so I've always looked at the grooves in terms

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Speaker 7: of slip resistance, right is it. If they're up, it'll

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01:14:59,175 --> 01:15:02,775
Speaker 7: help that. But if you flip them the other way

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Speaker 7: and the grooves are down, then what you've got is

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Speaker 7: less area directly contacting the joists. So instead of the

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Speaker 7: entire surface of the decking board being fastened down against

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Speaker 7: the top of the joist, which means that moisture that's

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Speaker 7: there is trapped there, right, And you might find if

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Speaker 7: you go and pull up your deck that in those

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Speaker 7: areas you might have either a bit of rock that's

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Speaker 7: occurred on the underside of the decking board, or it

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Speaker 7: might actually be sort of accelerating any decay in the

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Speaker 7: top of the joists, in which case there's a practical

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01:15:43,335 --> 01:15:46,295
Speaker 7: well it makes sense to go, okay, well, if you've

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Speaker 7: got the grooves down, then you've got a bit of

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Speaker 7: ventilation there, you've got less surface contact, less likely to

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Speaker 7: get decay. I like most of us, I'll watched a

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Speaker 7: bit of stuff from overseas, and I noticed that American

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Speaker 7: builders in particular use like a waterproof tape over the

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Speaker 7: top of their deck. Joists fall laying the decks the

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Speaker 7: decking timber down, and it's not common practice in New Zealand,

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Speaker 7: but I I wonder whether we'll start to see people

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Speaker 7: doing that. I've I'm a little bit unsure as to

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Speaker 7: the effectiveness of that that in the end, if I

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01:16:22,335 --> 01:16:25,855
Speaker 7: put a flashing tape over the top of my joice

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Speaker 7: and then I nail my deck down onto it, what

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Speaker 7: am I actually protecting because I'm still fastening through there,

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Speaker 7: you know, realistically, is it going to Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 7: it's it's just a question that I've got. I really

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Speaker 7: don't know the answer. I'm sure if people are doing it,

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Speaker 7: they're doing it because it is more effective.

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Speaker 19: But yeah, I'm just looking at the look of the deck,

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Speaker 19: you know, because the deck with the grooves and gets

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Speaker 19: a bit grubby.

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Speaker 4: And ye.

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Speaker 19: And I've a friend of mine made a deck and

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Speaker 19: Queeler and he and and he's he's he's got the

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Speaker 19: grooves down and it looks really nice with the flat

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Speaker 19: seat and like you know, Queler has got all the

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Speaker 19: knots on it as well, so it looks really enormous.

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Speaker 19: But I'm just going to use pine again. I can't

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Speaker 19: afford the actual quiler, so I'm just I don't know,

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01:17:20,895 --> 01:17:23,655
Speaker 19: I might just do it with the grooves down.

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Speaker 13: Look, I I just just for a different look.

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Speaker 7: You know, little Vitex deck a couple of years ago,

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01:17:31,775 --> 01:17:35,695
Speaker 7: and we went grooves down, you know, stainless steel fixing,

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01:17:35,775 --> 01:17:41,255
Speaker 7: So screw fixings obviously looks so much nicer. It's it's

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Speaker 7: unusual these days to see. I have to say, I personally,

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Speaker 7: I can't stand looking at let's say, a timbered a

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01:17:49,855 --> 01:17:53,335
Speaker 7: pine deck or decking pine decking boards that have then

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Speaker 7: been fastened down with a gun nail.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 7: No, I just think if I go to a place

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Speaker 7: and I look at that, I just go you just

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01:18:01,575 --> 01:18:07,015
Speaker 7: don't care. Right well, at the very least handnail, you know,

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01:18:07,175 --> 01:18:11,735
Speaker 7: use a jolt or a decking nail and nail and

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Speaker 7: then punch them. I think screw fixings or you know,

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01:18:16,095 --> 01:18:19,575
Speaker 7: either a conventional sort of countersunk screw if you want

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01:18:19,615 --> 01:18:22,335
Speaker 7: the bigger head, or you know, the decking screws now

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01:18:22,335 --> 01:18:25,055
Speaker 7: that have got a counter thread to them. It's a

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01:18:25,135 --> 01:18:28,895
Speaker 7: really tidy solution. I would still pre maybe not so

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01:18:28,975 --> 01:18:31,695
Speaker 7: much in pine, certainly on the ends of the board.

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01:18:32,055 --> 01:18:35,215
Speaker 7: I'd pre drill so you don't get any splitting. Fasten

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Speaker 7: them down with the decking stainless steel decking screws or

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01:18:37,695 --> 01:18:43,095
Speaker 7: coated decking screws. But if you are going to go pine,

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01:18:43,375 --> 01:18:45,935
Speaker 7: there's quite a lot of variability in terms of the

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01:18:46,055 --> 01:18:53,415
Speaker 7: quality that so don't always buy the cheapest pine, right,

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01:18:53,535 --> 01:18:55,655
Speaker 7: Go and have a look at it. Spend a little

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01:18:55,695 --> 01:18:58,535
Speaker 7: bit more to get a good quality or good grade

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01:18:58,855 --> 01:19:01,615
Speaker 7: of pine. And then I would also recommend that you

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01:19:02,055 --> 01:19:04,375
Speaker 7: let it flash off and then give it a coat

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01:19:04,615 --> 01:19:07,815
Speaker 7: to seal it, because it will last a lot longer,

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01:19:07,895 --> 01:19:11,455
Speaker 7: it'll be easier to maintain, and the actual maintenance of

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01:19:11,535 --> 01:19:14,255
Speaker 7: that sealer is not difficult. It's a wash and an

1437
01:19:14,295 --> 01:19:17,935
Speaker 7: application sort of every two years, and that will that

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01:19:18,015 --> 01:19:20,775
Speaker 7: will last. That will mean that your decking will last

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01:19:20,815 --> 01:19:22,135
Speaker 7: a lot longer as well.

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Speaker 13: Okay, Pete, Yeah, that's really good.

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01:19:24,895 --> 01:19:28,455
Speaker 7: Good stuff, nice talking. Enjoy and of course you'll you'll

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01:19:28,495 --> 01:19:34,975
Speaker 7: have it done by Christmas. All I didn't say which Christmas.

1443
01:19:35,015 --> 01:19:37,335
Speaker 7: Good on you mate, all the best. Take care. Oh

1444
01:19:38,015 --> 01:19:40,815
Speaker 7: oh that's delightful. Yeah, I mean, is it is it

1445
01:19:40,855 --> 01:19:42,975
Speaker 7: time to start thinking about those projects that you want

1446
01:19:42,975 --> 01:19:44,215
Speaker 7: to get done before Christmas?

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01:19:45,175 --> 01:19:47,375
Speaker 8: Probably is, folks, probably.

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01:19:46,975 --> 01:19:48,935
Speaker 7: Is eight hundred and eighty ten eight. If you'd like

1449
01:19:48,975 --> 01:19:52,615
Speaker 7: to talk about building, we can do exactly that Morning

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01:19:52,615 --> 01:19:55,575
Speaker 7: Peak nineteen fifties bungalow, no extraction. In the kitchen where

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01:19:55,575 --> 01:19:58,415
Speaker 7: the stove is, there is a window directly above the

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01:19:58,455 --> 01:20:02,415
Speaker 7: stove which extends about halfway across the stove, leaving not

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01:20:02,535 --> 01:20:05,615
Speaker 7: a lot of wall space, but there's a meter and

1454
01:20:05,695 --> 01:20:09,615
Speaker 7: more of walls behind the stove. To the side is

1455
01:20:09,655 --> 01:20:13,975
Speaker 7: the bespoke range hood maker that could make an offset

1456
01:20:14,095 --> 01:20:16,775
Speaker 7: range hood so that we could extend sideways off the

1457
01:20:16,775 --> 01:20:20,455
Speaker 7: wall over to the stove in the why cutter, I

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01:20:20,495 --> 01:20:23,015
Speaker 7: don't know. I mean, I'm sure there is someone who

1459
01:20:23,015 --> 01:20:25,015
Speaker 7: could do that. The other thing that I saw in

1460
01:20:25,055 --> 01:20:28,735
Speaker 7: that instance is actually to have a rangehood that was

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01:20:28,775 --> 01:20:34,335
Speaker 7: suspended from the ceiling, whether that's an off the shelf

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01:20:34,415 --> 01:20:37,255
Speaker 7: solution or something that someone had had custom made. So

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01:20:37,655 --> 01:20:41,055
Speaker 7: the power pack is in some framing or a structure

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01:20:41,295 --> 01:20:46,615
Speaker 7: that hangs from the ceiling above the range hood and

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01:20:47,015 --> 01:20:49,895
Speaker 7: in front of the window in this instant, so that

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01:20:50,095 --> 01:20:56,415
Speaker 7: might be your best suggestion there. I've got time for

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01:20:56,455 --> 01:20:59,535
Speaker 7: one more quick text as well. Someone who's doing a

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01:20:59,615 --> 01:21:03,055
Speaker 7: nineteen thirty's bungalow door with glass panels. The putty is

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01:21:03,095 --> 01:21:06,055
Speaker 7: cracked and chipped. What kind of putty to use on

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01:21:06,095 --> 01:21:08,895
Speaker 7: this and what kind of paint for a glossy finish. Well,

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01:21:08,935 --> 01:21:11,975
Speaker 7: let's deal with the putty first up. So there's for

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01:21:12,015 --> 01:21:14,975
Speaker 7: a long time, the only sort of glazing putty that

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01:21:15,055 --> 01:21:21,015
Speaker 7: you had was basically linseed putty, So conventional, light colored,

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01:21:21,095 --> 01:21:24,895
Speaker 7: like creamy colored putty. You put that in, you wait

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01:21:25,095 --> 01:21:27,815
Speaker 7: at least seven or eight days for it to develop

1476
01:21:27,855 --> 01:21:30,775
Speaker 7: a skin, and then you could prime it with an

1477
01:21:30,775 --> 01:21:34,815
Speaker 7: oil based primer and then finish it. Today you've got

1478
01:21:34,895 --> 01:21:38,055
Speaker 7: specialist glazing putty. Some of them are like a reddish color.

1479
01:21:38,895 --> 01:21:41,335
Speaker 7: You can put those in and they're ready to paint

1480
01:21:41,375 --> 01:21:44,535
Speaker 7: the next day. Read the instructions. You may well be

1481
01:21:44,575 --> 01:21:47,335
Speaker 7: able to use an oil based primer over the top

1482
01:21:47,375 --> 01:21:51,455
Speaker 7: of those glazing putties that will dry a lot quicker.

1483
01:21:51,735 --> 01:21:55,095
Speaker 7: And then in terms of glossy finish, you'll probably want

1484
01:21:55,615 --> 01:21:58,295
Speaker 7: a high gloss. You could go oil based, you could

1485
01:21:58,375 --> 01:22:02,375
Speaker 7: go water born. Enammels will give you that high gloss

1486
01:22:02,455 --> 01:22:04,935
Speaker 7: level as well. So there you go. Right, we'll come

1487
01:22:04,935 --> 01:22:07,695
Speaker 7: back after New Sport and Weather to take more of

1488
01:22:07,735 --> 01:22:10,455
Speaker 7: your building questions through till eight thirty and then it's

1489
01:22:10,695 --> 01:22:18,495
Speaker 7: Redcline Pass from eight thirty this morning.

1490
01:22:20,175 --> 01:22:22,375
Speaker 4: Squeaky door or squeaky floor.

1491
01:22:22,495 --> 01:22:25,855
Speaker 1: Get the right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder

1492
01:22:26,055 --> 01:22:28,295
Speaker 1: on News talksb Right.

1493
01:22:28,375 --> 01:22:30,175
Speaker 7: Oh, welcome back to the show. Oh, eight hundred and

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01:22:30,215 --> 01:22:33,015
Speaker 7: eighty ten eighty, as always is the number to call,

1495
01:22:33,055 --> 01:22:35,455
Speaker 7: and if you get in quick, we'll get you here

1496
01:22:35,895 --> 01:22:39,375
Speaker 7: just a matter of moments because we've got a free

1497
01:22:39,735 --> 01:22:42,255
Speaker 7: it's basically free right now. If you crack into it,

1498
01:22:42,615 --> 01:22:43,935
Speaker 7: we can have a bit of a chat because we've

1499
01:22:43,935 --> 01:22:46,975
Speaker 7: only got till eight thirty to talk about building construction

1500
01:22:47,175 --> 01:22:51,375
Speaker 7: rules regulations until we jump into the garden with Recline

1501
01:22:51,375 --> 01:22:54,575
Speaker 7: Pass from eight thirty this morning. My thanks again to

1502
01:22:54,615 --> 01:22:56,495
Speaker 7: those people at text Through. So we had a question

1503
01:22:56,775 --> 01:23:00,935
Speaker 7: prior to the seven o'clock News about sort of a

1504
01:23:01,015 --> 01:23:06,615
Speaker 7: relatively straightforward, let's say, an entry level CAD program, computerer

1505
01:23:06,615 --> 01:23:10,495
Speaker 7: aided design program that would allow someone to maybe you know,

1506
01:23:10,695 --> 01:23:13,935
Speaker 7: help them design. I think it was in this instance

1507
01:23:14,095 --> 01:23:17,695
Speaker 7: like an outdoor area, so some raised planter boxes, maybe

1508
01:23:17,695 --> 01:23:20,535
Speaker 7: a fireplace, that sort of thing. And a couple of

1509
01:23:20,535 --> 01:23:22,615
Speaker 7: people have text through, so we've had sketch up which

1510
01:23:22,655 --> 01:23:25,815
Speaker 7: I'm a little bit familiar with I to be fair,

1511
01:23:26,055 --> 01:23:27,775
Speaker 7: I tried using it a couple of years ago, but

1512
01:23:27,935 --> 01:23:30,895
Speaker 7: I got impatient and just didn't spend the time.

1513
01:23:30,695 --> 01:23:31,415
Speaker 8: To learn it.

1514
01:23:33,135 --> 01:23:35,735
Speaker 7: But SketchUp apparently is good. Magic Plan is another one,

1515
01:23:35,775 --> 01:23:39,575
Speaker 7: and Blender three D is also something that you can

1516
01:23:39,615 --> 01:23:43,255
Speaker 7: download obviously from the internet and use that as well.

1517
01:23:43,295 --> 01:23:45,335
Speaker 7: So my thanks to those people that text through on that.

1518
01:23:45,575 --> 01:23:47,175
Speaker 7: A couple of people have text through. We were talking

1519
01:23:47,175 --> 01:23:52,535
Speaker 7: about decking just prior to the news at eight o'clock. Decking.

1520
01:23:53,135 --> 01:23:55,615
Speaker 7: It's designed for the grooves down as you say, it

1521
01:23:55,695 --> 01:23:59,695
Speaker 7: eliminates moisture. And then next one that comes in Pete

1522
01:23:59,775 --> 01:24:01,975
Speaker 7: my friend did the grooves down he slipped on a

1523
01:24:02,015 --> 01:24:05,855
Speaker 7: frosty morning, broke's back grooves up. It's called deck tread

1524
01:24:05,895 --> 01:24:10,575
Speaker 7: for a ree and then another one with regard to

1525
01:24:10,655 --> 01:24:12,855
Speaker 7: the deck guy, push your budget go to the bigger

1526
01:24:12,935 --> 01:24:16,375
Speaker 7: one forty size board. So there's kind of conventionally there's

1527
01:24:16,735 --> 01:24:19,095
Speaker 7: a four inch board which is about ninety mili or

1528
01:24:19,095 --> 01:24:21,175
Speaker 7: I guess there's a six inch board which is about

1529
01:24:21,215 --> 01:24:25,295
Speaker 7: one forty one thirty five something like that, and I agree, Look,

1530
01:24:25,295 --> 01:24:28,695
Speaker 7: the wide boards actually do look quite nice. There is

1531
01:24:28,775 --> 01:24:35,575
Speaker 7: a wide timber pine decking board which has is slightly profiled,

1532
01:24:35,575 --> 01:24:38,015
Speaker 7: so it's got like a ridge in the center, ever

1533
01:24:38,095 --> 01:24:41,375
Speaker 7: so slightly so that it helps shed water to the outside,

1534
01:24:41,455 --> 01:24:44,415
Speaker 7: because you know, one forty milimeters is a reasonably large

1535
01:24:44,415 --> 01:24:48,615
Speaker 7: flat surface, water will collect there. And I saw something

1536
01:24:48,615 --> 01:24:51,335
Speaker 7: the other day about which way up you lay if

1537
01:24:51,375 --> 01:24:54,975
Speaker 7: the boards are not grooveed, in terms of which way

1538
01:24:54,975 --> 01:25:00,455
Speaker 7: the grain goes, So sort of basically the curvature of

1539
01:25:00,775 --> 01:25:03,575
Speaker 7: if you cross section you see the rings of a tree,

1540
01:25:04,455 --> 01:25:08,135
Speaker 7: do you have those down or up? There's a particular way. Obviously,

1541
01:25:08,175 --> 01:25:10,935
Speaker 7: if they're in a smiley face, then the boards are

1542
01:25:10,935 --> 01:25:14,055
Speaker 7: going to when they cup, they'll cup up if you

1543
01:25:14,175 --> 01:25:17,535
Speaker 7: do it with a frown, so smiley face down sort

1544
01:25:17,575 --> 01:25:20,455
Speaker 7: of thing. If you imagine looking at that cross section,

1545
01:25:20,575 --> 01:25:22,975
Speaker 7: then if the boards do cup a little bit, it

1546
01:25:23,015 --> 01:25:27,215
Speaker 7: will actually raise the center of the board and shed

1547
01:25:27,255 --> 01:25:30,215
Speaker 7: water to the outside. So that's something worth considering. But look,

1548
01:25:30,335 --> 01:25:33,695
Speaker 7: to be fair, there's not a lot of boards that

1549
01:25:33,735 --> 01:25:36,175
Speaker 7: you would get now where you get to decide which

1550
01:25:36,215 --> 01:25:38,975
Speaker 7: side up. So there you go. Oh, eight one hundred

1551
01:25:39,015 --> 01:25:41,495
Speaker 7: and eighty ten eighty is that number to call if

1552
01:25:41,535 --> 01:25:43,495
Speaker 7: you've got a question of a building Nature had a

1553
01:25:43,535 --> 01:25:46,895
Speaker 7: couple of people push back on my comments around you

1554
01:25:46,895 --> 01:25:50,415
Speaker 7: know driveway a drive The question at hand was a

1555
01:25:50,495 --> 01:25:53,215
Speaker 7: driveway that had been installed a couple of years ago

1556
01:25:53,335 --> 01:25:57,495
Speaker 7: where there's obviously no storm water control, and so water

1557
01:25:57,695 --> 01:26:02,895
Speaker 7: is sheeting over this newly installed impermeable surface and being

1558
01:26:02,935 --> 01:26:07,815
Speaker 7: directed to a neighbor's property where it is causing a

1559
01:26:07,855 --> 01:26:13,175
Speaker 7: minor amount of flooding but certainly saturating the ground. Typically,

1560
01:26:13,415 --> 01:26:16,975
Speaker 7: you know, driveways and permeable surfaces need to have some

1561
01:26:17,015 --> 01:26:20,815
Speaker 7: sort of way of controlling and capturing storm water, and

1562
01:26:20,855 --> 01:26:24,735
Speaker 7: it's a pretty common requirement in terms of building REGs.

1563
01:26:25,135 --> 01:26:27,775
Speaker 7: So in this instance it wasn't done. But then the

1564
01:26:27,855 --> 01:26:30,455
Speaker 7: council have said, hey, it's not our problem. This is

1565
01:26:30,455 --> 01:26:33,695
Speaker 7: a civil matter, which is a fairly typical response from councils,

1566
01:26:34,575 --> 01:26:38,815
Speaker 7: and I can kind of understand why they don't necessarily

1567
01:26:38,855 --> 01:26:41,975
Speaker 7: want to be involved in this. The only response to

1568
01:26:42,055 --> 01:26:44,735
Speaker 7: that would be if that driveway was part of a

1569
01:26:44,735 --> 01:26:48,375
Speaker 7: building consent, then it should have been checked to ensure

1570
01:26:48,415 --> 01:26:50,295
Speaker 7: because I'm sure on the building consent it would have

1571
01:26:50,295 --> 01:26:53,455
Speaker 7: said you need to have some provision for stormwater capture.

1572
01:26:54,295 --> 01:26:56,495
Speaker 7: And if they didn't do that, then they haven't built

1573
01:26:56,495 --> 01:27:00,255
Speaker 7: out is it in accordance with the plans? And councils

1574
01:27:00,255 --> 01:27:02,135
Speaker 7: should pick them up on that. But if it didn't

1575
01:27:02,215 --> 01:27:04,575
Speaker 7: need a consent, then people should still do the right thing.

1576
01:27:04,695 --> 01:27:07,175
Speaker 7: But they might not have in which case it becomes

1577
01:27:07,215 --> 01:27:11,015
Speaker 7: a dispute between neighbors. In council will tend to step

1578
01:27:11,055 --> 01:27:13,735
Speaker 7: back from that and go it's a civil matter.

1579
01:27:13,855 --> 01:27:14,735
Speaker 8: Good luck to you.

1580
01:27:14,815 --> 01:27:17,255
Speaker 7: Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty lines are open. If

1581
01:27:17,335 --> 01:27:19,175
Speaker 7: you've got a question of a building nature, give me

1582
01:27:19,215 --> 01:27:21,495
Speaker 7: a call right now, oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1583
01:27:22,055 --> 01:27:25,935
Speaker 1: Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident

1584
01:27:25,975 --> 01:27:29,335
Speaker 1: filder with vetable scaffs call, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

1585
01:27:29,455 --> 01:27:30,375
Speaker 4: Youth talks EDB.

1586
01:27:31,775 --> 01:27:34,175
Speaker 7: You and these talks B. We're talking all things building

1587
01:27:34,255 --> 01:27:36,975
Speaker 7: and construction. Actually, some of says text through just on

1588
01:27:37,055 --> 01:27:41,175
Speaker 7: the CAD thing. This is fascinating, so CAD computer aided design,

1589
01:27:42,575 --> 01:27:46,055
Speaker 7: says the Texter. I built a house in Wanica in

1590
01:27:46,215 --> 01:27:49,495
Speaker 7: two thousand and one, which eventually featured in the Trends magazine.

1591
01:27:49,615 --> 01:27:52,535
Speaker 7: Designed myself on a piece of German three D software

1592
01:27:52,775 --> 01:27:57,255
Speaker 7: called Broderbund. I saved thirty k on architects fees just

1593
01:27:57,335 --> 01:27:59,975
Speaker 7: needed a local structural engineer to make sure the design

1594
01:28:00,095 --> 01:28:03,055
Speaker 7: was compliant in terms of low bearing walls and runoff

1595
01:28:03,055 --> 01:28:05,855
Speaker 7: and so on. Cost me four grand. That was twenty

1596
01:28:05,855 --> 01:28:09,615
Speaker 7: four years ago. You can't do that today in a nutshell.

1597
01:28:10,255 --> 01:28:14,335
Speaker 7: So consents need to be done by someone holding a

1598
01:28:14,415 --> 01:28:18,455
Speaker 7: design license. So obviously that's an architect actually actual designer

1599
01:28:18,495 --> 01:28:22,015
Speaker 7: in some cases others that have design license. That's part

1600
01:28:22,015 --> 01:28:25,615
Speaker 7: of the license building practitioner scheme. So yeah, you could.

1601
01:28:25,695 --> 01:28:27,535
Speaker 7: I suppose you could do a lot of the design.

1602
01:28:27,815 --> 01:28:31,095
Speaker 7: I would imagine if you go to an architect or

1603
01:28:31,095 --> 01:28:33,695
Speaker 7: an architectural designer and go here, this is what I want.

1604
01:28:34,335 --> 01:28:38,015
Speaker 7: It's a can be a very fraught conversation.

1605
01:28:38,295 --> 01:28:39,215
Speaker 8: Let's put it that way.

1606
01:28:39,815 --> 01:28:41,975
Speaker 7: If you've been down that path, you probably understand what

1607
01:28:42,015 --> 01:28:45,855
Speaker 7: I'm talking about. Anyway, we can talk design because that's

1608
01:28:45,895 --> 01:28:48,895
Speaker 7: where all good buildings start. Ultimately, isn't it good design?

1609
01:28:48,975 --> 01:28:52,135
Speaker 7: Good building? Inevitably hopefully I eight hundred and eighty ten

1610
01:28:52,175 --> 01:28:54,295
Speaker 7: eighty the number Brian, Good morning to you.

1611
01:28:55,015 --> 01:28:58,415
Speaker 17: Here, Good morning meetings. I yeah, I mean good one.

1612
01:28:58,495 --> 01:29:03,335
Speaker 17: And I want to comment about up and down the group.

1613
01:29:04,895 --> 01:29:08,335
Speaker 17: Are you nineteen? I built a swimming pool and put

1614
01:29:08,335 --> 01:29:10,815
Speaker 17: a deck around the side, six hundred wide, all the

1615
01:29:10,855 --> 01:29:15,095
Speaker 17: way around the fall. And I used tannelized pine ninety

1616
01:29:15,135 --> 01:29:20,375
Speaker 17: milk with nails. Yes, and thirty years later it's still there.

1617
01:29:20,455 --> 01:29:21,455
Speaker 17: I never painted it.

1618
01:29:21,975 --> 01:29:22,215
Speaker 12: Wow.

1619
01:29:22,455 --> 01:29:27,735
Speaker 17: It was got a little bit rough in the after

1620
01:29:27,815 --> 01:29:31,175
Speaker 17: the winter, and I went round with a hose in

1621
01:29:31,215 --> 01:29:34,495
Speaker 17: a white rush, yes, and rushed it all clean. And

1622
01:29:34,535 --> 01:29:36,935
Speaker 17: it just kept going and going and going and never

1623
01:29:36,975 --> 01:29:37,735
Speaker 17: had a problem.

1624
01:29:37,975 --> 01:29:43,855
Speaker 7: That's awesome, Yes, thinking I built a deck in nineteen

1625
01:29:43,975 --> 01:29:46,535
Speaker 7: ninety one there you go. Might have been ninety two,

1626
01:29:46,575 --> 01:29:49,495
Speaker 7: but around that time pine decking, and I ended up

1627
01:29:49,575 --> 01:29:53,575
Speaker 7: ripping it. I ripped all the decking off in two

1628
01:29:53,575 --> 01:30:00,775
Speaker 7: thousand and Look, it wasn't like it wasn't terrible, but

1629
01:30:00,975 --> 01:30:03,575
Speaker 7: had started some of the decking boards had started to

1630
01:30:03,615 --> 01:30:05,415
Speaker 7: decay and there was a bit of movement. I think

1631
01:30:05,455 --> 01:30:08,095
Speaker 7: I might have replaced one or two. But by and large,

1632
01:30:08,335 --> 01:30:10,975
Speaker 7: you know it, it had done pretty good for near

1633
01:30:11,135 --> 01:30:16,175
Speaker 7: thirty years in an outdoor environment. I had coated it

1634
01:30:16,215 --> 01:30:20,055
Speaker 7: at one stage, but to be fair, the maintenance in

1635
01:30:20,095 --> 01:30:25,175
Speaker 7: between was pretty poor. Nowhere near as you know, attentive,

1636
01:30:25,335 --> 01:30:26,935
Speaker 7: let's say, as your maintenance has been.

1637
01:30:28,615 --> 01:30:28,935
Speaker 19: It was.

1638
01:30:29,135 --> 01:30:32,175
Speaker 17: It was only only I only ever wire brushes about

1639
01:30:32,175 --> 01:30:35,535
Speaker 17: three times in that time, yeap, over the thirty years,

1640
01:30:35,815 --> 01:30:38,015
Speaker 17: and it was only when it got body, you know,

1641
01:30:38,135 --> 01:30:40,215
Speaker 17: with a bit of rough weather and you know, it

1642
01:30:40,255 --> 01:30:43,495
Speaker 17: went green, and I found it very easy just to

1643
01:30:43,495 --> 01:30:46,375
Speaker 17: wire brush off. Yeah nice, and yes it turned up

1644
01:30:46,375 --> 01:30:49,095
Speaker 17: a little bit, but that didn't take anything off. It

1645
01:30:49,175 --> 01:30:51,815
Speaker 17: was it was easy to sweep and do all that

1646
01:30:51,855 --> 01:30:52,335
Speaker 17: sort of thing.

1647
01:30:53,095 --> 01:30:56,735
Speaker 7: And did you have grooves up or grooves down? Yes,

1648
01:30:56,975 --> 01:31:00,095
Speaker 7: greves up, yeah, which around the play That's what I

1649
01:31:00,095 --> 01:31:00,895
Speaker 7: would do as well.

1650
01:31:01,095 --> 01:31:02,775
Speaker 17: Yep, Oh, it was fantastic.

1651
01:31:03,735 --> 01:31:05,815
Speaker 7: It'd be interesting if there was a time in the

1652
01:31:05,815 --> 01:31:08,215
Speaker 7: future that you took up some of that decking to

1653
01:31:08,335 --> 01:31:13,295
Speaker 7: see what happens at that junction between the decking board

1654
01:31:13,375 --> 01:31:16,295
Speaker 7: and the joist, you know, because what you've got there

1655
01:31:16,455 --> 01:31:20,535
Speaker 7: is an area ninety millimeters by forty five where you've

1656
01:31:20,575 --> 01:31:24,335
Speaker 7: got two surfaces fixed hard against each other. When if

1657
01:31:24,415 --> 01:31:28,535
Speaker 7: moisture inevitably gets in there, it's not going to dry out,

1658
01:31:28,575 --> 01:31:31,215
Speaker 7: and which case, it would be interesting to see whether

1659
01:31:31,255 --> 01:31:33,575
Speaker 7: you had any decay on the top of the joist

1660
01:31:34,135 --> 01:31:37,375
Speaker 7: or possibly some decay on the underside of the decking

1661
01:31:37,455 --> 01:31:40,815
Speaker 7: board from that moisture being trapped there.

1662
01:31:41,855 --> 01:31:44,695
Speaker 17: Yeah, well, about four years ago we had problems with

1663
01:31:44,775 --> 01:31:48,495
Speaker 17: the concrete pool, right, and we end up ripping it out,

1664
01:31:48,735 --> 01:31:51,895
Speaker 17: liking it all out. And then when we pulled the

1665
01:31:51,935 --> 01:31:55,775
Speaker 17: decking up there was no rock, no nothing, how interesting

1666
01:31:55,895 --> 01:32:01,015
Speaker 17: anything that's right round it? Yeah interesting, wasn't deteriorated at all.

1667
01:32:01,175 --> 01:32:03,735
Speaker 17: Some of the winnow's taking the deck off. A lot

1668
01:32:03,735 --> 01:32:06,215
Speaker 17: of it split, but that's obvious.

1669
01:32:06,495 --> 01:32:06,735
Speaker 13: Yep.

1670
01:32:07,175 --> 01:32:15,375
Speaker 17: But it's only with sixty eighty milimeter nails. Yeah, so

1671
01:32:16,015 --> 01:32:17,735
Speaker 17: it didn't cause us a problem at all.

1672
01:32:18,295 --> 01:32:18,935
Speaker 4: Yeah, brilliant.

1673
01:32:19,095 --> 01:32:21,175
Speaker 7: Good to hear. Brilliant.

1674
01:32:22,055 --> 01:32:23,855
Speaker 17: I'm all for one that doesn't paint.

1675
01:32:27,775 --> 01:32:30,215
Speaker 7: All right, you look after yourself, take care than you

1676
01:32:30,415 --> 01:32:33,175
Speaker 7: see it. Then, all that talk about decking and that

1677
01:32:33,255 --> 01:32:36,735
Speaker 7: whole thing around, whether or not by trapping moisture between

1678
01:32:36,815 --> 01:32:43,295
Speaker 7: two flat surfaces will promote decay. I'm almost tempted to

1679
01:32:43,335 --> 01:32:45,655
Speaker 7: go with a screwdriver back to the deck that I

1680
01:32:45,695 --> 01:32:49,695
Speaker 7: built in twenty twenty and back a couple of screws

1681
01:32:49,735 --> 01:32:52,295
Speaker 7: out and flip one of the boards over and see

1682
01:32:52,295 --> 01:32:55,815
Speaker 7: what's going on. I'm not sure that the people in

1683
01:32:55,855 --> 01:32:59,095
Speaker 7: the house would approve of that, but I'm very tempted

1684
01:32:59,135 --> 01:33:01,775
Speaker 7: now to apply a bit of science talking about science,

1685
01:33:02,295 --> 01:33:04,655
Speaker 7: A real scientist on the show shortly. If you'd like

1686
01:33:04,695 --> 01:33:07,135
Speaker 7: to talk to the red climb past, the lines are open.

1687
01:33:07,175 --> 01:33:09,575
Speaker 7: The number to call eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

1688
01:33:09,815 --> 01:33:13,415
Speaker 7: A lot of talk about storm water on the program today,

1689
01:33:13,695 --> 01:33:18,455
Speaker 7: not surprising given a couple of decent sized downpalls yesterday.

1690
01:33:19,735 --> 01:33:22,015
Speaker 7: Rest of the countries had more than its fair share

1691
01:33:22,095 --> 01:33:24,815
Speaker 7: of water over the last couple of weeks. Pete, could

1692
01:33:24,815 --> 01:33:26,455
Speaker 7: you please tell me what to do I need to

1693
01:33:26,495 --> 01:33:30,175
Speaker 7: talk or who I need to talk to? Stormwater from

1694
01:33:30,175 --> 01:33:33,815
Speaker 7: a flat skillion roof on a nineteen forty stucco plaster

1695
01:33:33,975 --> 01:33:36,695
Speaker 7: home runs into the backyard. I live in Napier and

1696
01:33:36,695 --> 01:33:39,335
Speaker 7: the Hawks Bay. Do I need a plumber or question mark?

1697
01:33:39,375 --> 01:33:44,775
Speaker 7: Question mark, Thanks very much, Leanne. I presume that at

1698
01:33:44,935 --> 01:33:47,895
Speaker 7: the end of that skillion roof, that mono pitch roof,

1699
01:33:48,815 --> 01:33:52,415
Speaker 7: what you've got is some spouting. The spouting's connected to

1700
01:33:52,495 --> 01:33:56,615
Speaker 7: a downpipe, and the down pipe that's probably then the

1701
01:33:56,695 --> 01:34:00,055
Speaker 7: question where does it go from there? You know, if

1702
01:34:00,095 --> 01:34:03,415
Speaker 7: it just goes maybe to a soakage pit that was

1703
01:34:03,455 --> 01:34:05,815
Speaker 7: built when the house was built in the nineteen thirties,

1704
01:34:06,055 --> 01:34:09,055
Speaker 7: that sokage pit won't be doing anything anymore, it'll be

1705
01:34:09,095 --> 01:34:14,415
Speaker 7: full of silt and it'll be completely ineffective. So then

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01:34:14,455 --> 01:34:17,775
Speaker 7: you've got to look at what provision for public storm

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01:34:17,815 --> 01:34:21,255
Speaker 7: water there is in the area. Is there a stormwater

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01:34:21,375 --> 01:34:23,895
Speaker 7: line further down the property that you could potentially get

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01:34:23,935 --> 01:34:27,895
Speaker 7: access to, or do you already have stormwater to the street,

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01:34:27,935 --> 01:34:30,175
Speaker 7: in which case maybe you need to replace some pipes

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01:34:30,775 --> 01:34:32,935
Speaker 7: and those sorts of things. So I think it's really

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01:34:32,935 --> 01:34:35,855
Speaker 7: a question probably more for a drain laser, some drain

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01:34:35,935 --> 01:34:38,935
Speaker 7: layers of plumbers, or some plumbers are drain layers, But

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01:34:39,095 --> 01:34:42,215
Speaker 7: it's more a drain layers question than a plumber's question,

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01:34:42,695 --> 01:34:46,055
Speaker 7: I think. So good luck with that as well. Depending

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01:34:46,055 --> 01:34:48,815
Speaker 7: on the soil conditions, there might be some options for

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01:34:49,495 --> 01:34:52,855
Speaker 7: sort of containment on the site in terms of soakage

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01:34:52,895 --> 01:34:57,095
Speaker 7: pits or what i'd call an Auckland and only Hunger

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01:34:57,135 --> 01:35:02,055
Speaker 7: type drain, which is you drill down sleeve that borehole

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01:35:02,655 --> 01:35:05,095
Speaker 7: and then have that coming up into a chamber. Stormwater

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01:35:05,175 --> 01:35:08,975
Speaker 7: discharges into a chain and then it goes and just

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01:35:09,095 --> 01:35:11,775
Speaker 7: percolates into the ground. But you have to prove that

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01:35:11,815 --> 01:35:14,135
Speaker 7: the ground will take that water.

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01:35:14,375 --> 01:35:15,695
Speaker 8: And so what we did.

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01:35:15,775 --> 01:35:20,095
Speaker 7: Was a number of years ago, one hundred mili hole

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01:35:20,295 --> 01:35:23,255
Speaker 7: drilled into the ground, sleeved in PVC, and then you

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01:35:23,455 --> 01:35:27,055
Speaker 7: take a thousand liter tank and you basically flood that

1728
01:35:27,295 --> 01:35:30,855
Speaker 7: and measure the capacity. If it dissipates, then that's going

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01:35:30,895 --> 01:35:34,335
Speaker 7: to be suitable. And then we built the chamber, put

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01:35:34,375 --> 01:35:36,575
Speaker 7: all the storm water into it and that works fine.

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01:35:37,415 --> 01:35:39,775
Speaker 7: But you do have to prove that those systems work.

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01:35:40,295 --> 01:35:42,775
Speaker 7: So there are some solutions, which is great. Oh, eight

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01:35:42,895 --> 01:35:44,255
Speaker 7: hundred and eighty ten eight. Youve got a couple of

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01:35:44,255 --> 01:35:46,815
Speaker 7: minutes if you've got a building question. Otherwise we're into

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01:35:46,815 --> 01:35:48,815
Speaker 7: the garden with Rudd shortly back in a.

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