1 00:00:06,667 --> 00:00:10,547 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine 2 00:00:10,707 --> 00:00:13,507 Speaker 1: from News Talks ed B and around. 3 00:00:13,147 --> 00:00:15,307 Speaker 2: This time every Sunday afternoon we get the pleasure of 4 00:00:15,347 --> 00:00:18,507 Speaker 2: the company of James mcconey and today is no different. 5 00:00:18,587 --> 00:00:21,547 Speaker 2: But if we fast forward a week James and when 6 00:00:21,547 --> 00:00:24,587 Speaker 2: we're speaking the day after all Black Spring Boks at 7 00:00:24,747 --> 00:00:28,667 Speaker 2: Eden Park, what do you expect the conversation to consist 8 00:00:28,747 --> 00:00:30,147 Speaker 2: of between the two of us? 9 00:00:30,827 --> 00:00:32,827 Speaker 3: You know what, It's going to be, like, Poney, It'll 10 00:00:32,867 --> 00:00:39,307 Speaker 3: be all around discipline, taking opportunities, kick the goal, stuff 11 00:00:39,347 --> 00:00:41,387 Speaker 3: like that, because I think it's just going to be 12 00:00:41,467 --> 00:00:44,907 Speaker 3: such a titanic struggle. I haven't got a long range 13 00:00:44,947 --> 00:00:47,027 Speaker 3: forecast for you, but I think that'll have a huge 14 00:00:47,027 --> 00:00:49,187 Speaker 3: bearing on the game as well. But this is as 15 00:00:49,187 --> 00:00:51,707 Speaker 3: big as it gets outside of a World Cup indeed. 16 00:00:51,787 --> 00:00:55,387 Speaker 2: So what do you expect Scott Robertson to do? Selection wise? 17 00:00:55,507 --> 00:00:57,347 Speaker 2: I think we can say, okay, Wallace ted he comes 18 00:00:57,347 --> 00:00:59,667 Speaker 2: back into the starting side to Mighty Williams as well. 19 00:00:59,707 --> 00:01:02,227 Speaker 2: But I'm interested in your thoughts on back three and 20 00:01:02,267 --> 00:01:03,987 Speaker 2: potentially midfield as well. 21 00:01:04,747 --> 00:01:09,107 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, back three, I think Caleb Clark should get 22 00:01:09,107 --> 00:01:11,347 Speaker 3: a chance to play in the back three. I mean, 23 00:01:11,387 --> 00:01:14,147 Speaker 3: he's an expert under the high ball. He is a 24 00:01:14,227 --> 00:01:17,307 Speaker 3: really good elite test player. He's had really a difficult 25 00:01:17,387 --> 00:01:20,827 Speaker 3: year because of you know, that motorcycle court case that 26 00:01:21,027 --> 00:01:24,227 Speaker 3: just you know, derailed him somewhat, and so I think 27 00:01:24,267 --> 00:01:27,627 Speaker 3: now he's probably had time to just sort of get 28 00:01:27,707 --> 00:01:31,027 Speaker 3: himself together and hopefully have a good game this afternoon. 29 00:01:31,027 --> 00:01:33,587 Speaker 3: I think he is playing, isn't he Piney? Yes, he is, 30 00:01:34,027 --> 00:01:36,227 Speaker 3: so we've got to watch with Kevin eye on him. 31 00:01:36,627 --> 00:01:38,187 Speaker 3: I think he should play on the left wing. He's 32 00:01:38,187 --> 00:01:40,307 Speaker 3: got to get good left boot on him as well, Caleb. 33 00:01:40,747 --> 00:01:43,987 Speaker 3: But the other thing is maybe at center. Even though 34 00:01:43,987 --> 00:01:45,747 Speaker 3: I'm a big Billy Procter fan, and I'm sure you 35 00:01:45,907 --> 00:01:48,907 Speaker 3: are too, is it better to be conservative and say 36 00:01:49,067 --> 00:01:52,027 Speaker 3: Rico Yowani comes back in a really good defensive center 37 00:01:53,427 --> 00:01:55,827 Speaker 3: to play in that position for such a big game. 38 00:01:56,427 --> 00:01:58,427 Speaker 2: I wonder that too. You know, I wonder that too, 39 00:01:58,507 --> 00:02:00,147 Speaker 2: And you're right, I'm a big fan of Billy Procter, 40 00:02:00,427 --> 00:02:02,667 Speaker 2: not just because he's from the same place in New 41 00:02:02,747 --> 00:02:05,427 Speaker 2: Zealand as me, but yeah, I wonder that too. So 42 00:02:06,387 --> 00:02:08,307 Speaker 2: action will be a massive, a massive part of this. 43 00:02:08,467 --> 00:02:11,827 Speaker 2: It's absolutely pouring down and Wellington unfortunately. So it's not 44 00:02:11,827 --> 00:02:13,667 Speaker 2: gonna be yea, not gonna be one of those games 45 00:02:13,707 --> 00:02:16,627 Speaker 2: of running rugby unfortunately at Potty or A Park Jerry 46 00:02:16,627 --> 00:02:17,787 Speaker 2: Collins studying today. 47 00:02:18,267 --> 00:02:21,787 Speaker 3: Did you see also Tabatava Nahwai is injured, So I'm thinking, yeah, 48 00:02:21,827 --> 00:02:25,027 Speaker 3: what does that mean Razor brings in you know, leicesterfying 49 00:02:25,067 --> 00:02:26,627 Speaker 3: a new two. He need to go to the board 50 00:02:26,707 --> 00:02:29,387 Speaker 3: to get permission to bring them in earlier than then 51 00:02:29,387 --> 00:02:33,347 Speaker 3: they anticipated. But then there's also Mark Talia is around right, 52 00:02:33,547 --> 00:02:36,867 Speaker 3: so I know he's been left out in the cold. 53 00:02:36,947 --> 00:02:39,387 Speaker 3: But look, this is you want to win the Rugby Championship? 54 00:02:39,387 --> 00:02:41,947 Speaker 3: Do you want to pick the best players? There are 55 00:02:42,027 --> 00:02:44,387 Speaker 3: some big decisions for Razor to make and I know, 56 00:02:44,867 --> 00:02:47,107 Speaker 3: you know, he's got a beautiful mind raising he's one 57 00:02:47,107 --> 00:02:49,347 Speaker 3: of those guys. He thinks and lives in breeze rugby, 58 00:02:49,467 --> 00:02:52,107 Speaker 3: so he'll leave no stone unturned this week. But of 59 00:02:52,187 --> 00:02:56,347 Speaker 3: course it's that high ball issue which needs to be 60 00:02:56,427 --> 00:02:57,507 Speaker 3: resolved a sap. 61 00:02:58,947 --> 00:03:00,667 Speaker 2: They're only they're only only going to be in their 62 00:03:00,667 --> 00:03:03,307 Speaker 2: own rules, aren't they or break their own rules. You know, 63 00:03:03,467 --> 00:03:05,987 Speaker 2: they can be the rules that they enforced upon themselves 64 00:03:06,347 --> 00:03:07,627 Speaker 2: and rugby and the all blacks so they can change 65 00:03:07,627 --> 00:03:10,547 Speaker 2: them if they want to anyway. Yeah, yeah, let's go 66 00:03:10,627 --> 00:03:13,667 Speaker 2: to Hamilton. I've just received a text from our match 67 00:03:13,707 --> 00:03:16,667 Speaker 2: commentator up there, Graham Minty mead, it's twelve degrees in 68 00:03:16,827 --> 00:03:20,067 Speaker 2: pouring down Southam will feel right at home? Can Southam 69 00:03:20,107 --> 00:03:22,507 Speaker 2: take the shield back down to whim vericrgole this afternoon? 70 00:03:23,387 --> 00:03:28,027 Speaker 3: Well not with me taking the cow bell. I'm on 71 00:03:28,147 --> 00:03:31,747 Speaker 3: the way and I hope that didn't blow out your speakers. 72 00:03:32,027 --> 00:03:35,067 Speaker 3: I loved it, but it's you know, I'm on I'm 73 00:03:35,107 --> 00:03:37,707 Speaker 3: on the road soon to hit down there to see 74 00:03:37,747 --> 00:03:41,347 Speaker 3: how it goes. To be honest, you know, the South 75 00:03:41,467 --> 00:03:45,027 Speaker 3: and have been have been, doubt a classic hospital passed 76 00:03:45,067 --> 00:03:47,427 Speaker 3: by all these all blacks being available for white cuts 77 00:03:47,467 --> 00:03:49,827 Speaker 3: or so you've got Luke Jacobson at number eight. Anton 78 00:03:49,947 --> 00:03:53,107 Speaker 3: lend Brown seen to some Openny female Olin Norris are 79 00:03:53,147 --> 00:03:55,787 Speaker 3: both starting as well. Initially they were in name so 80 00:03:55,867 --> 00:03:57,707 Speaker 3: it felt like there was some kind of battle between 81 00:03:57,787 --> 00:04:01,987 Speaker 3: Ross Filippo and Raisa going on, two old Crusaders teammates. 82 00:04:02,027 --> 00:04:05,467 Speaker 3: So I was just thinking, okay, well now they're in right. 83 00:04:05,627 --> 00:04:08,147 Speaker 3: So that's it's all we can say is that it 84 00:04:08,307 --> 00:04:10,987 Speaker 3: is tough for Southland. They don't get ethan degree or 85 00:04:11,027 --> 00:04:13,547 Speaker 3: savy rest, which is a shame for them, but hey, 86 00:04:14,147 --> 00:04:17,147 Speaker 3: they are shield specialists. They care about the Logowood as 87 00:04:17,227 --> 00:04:20,027 Speaker 3: much as any province. So I think it's going to 88 00:04:20,067 --> 00:04:22,547 Speaker 3: be an awesome battle. And the All Blacks might all 89 00:04:22,587 --> 00:04:25,067 Speaker 3: be off off the field at the business end. They 90 00:04:25,147 --> 00:04:27,547 Speaker 3: might only play fifty or sixty minutes, so you know, 91 00:04:29,147 --> 00:04:31,027 Speaker 3: if it rains, which it is at the moment, and 92 00:04:31,187 --> 00:04:33,387 Speaker 3: like you say, twelve degrees, I think that helps Southland, 93 00:04:33,427 --> 00:04:33,707 Speaker 3: doesn't it. 94 00:04:34,187 --> 00:04:36,227 Speaker 2: I think so. I think so. I'm just hoping for 95 00:04:36,267 --> 00:04:39,707 Speaker 2: another great battle. I enjoyed Waikato Talanaki last week. I've 96 00:04:39,707 --> 00:04:41,027 Speaker 2: got no skin in the game. Got no skin in 97 00:04:41,067 --> 00:04:42,987 Speaker 2: this game this afternoon either, But I just love the 98 00:04:43,027 --> 00:04:46,547 Speaker 2: emotion that is wrapped around at Jason Rutlers actually a 99 00:04:46,667 --> 00:04:49,427 Speaker 2: Southland stalwater. I'm sure you've seen play a few times 100 00:04:49,747 --> 00:04:51,467 Speaker 2: for them and also for the Highlanders. Are going to 101 00:04:51,547 --> 00:04:52,787 Speaker 2: chat to with some about an hour or so, so 102 00:04:52,907 --> 00:04:55,027 Speaker 2: be keen to hear from him just how much it means, 103 00:04:55,027 --> 00:04:58,307 Speaker 2: because I think it does still mean mean a lot. Hey, 104 00:04:58,387 --> 00:05:01,747 Speaker 2: the schoolboy rugby finals on right now, fielding against Rotaldo 105 00:05:01,827 --> 00:05:04,547 Speaker 2: a boys rot I have just scored a try to 106 00:05:04,627 --> 00:05:07,467 Speaker 2: go twenty seven ten ahead with twenty minutes to go. 107 00:05:08,427 --> 00:05:09,947 Speaker 2: I've just been watching it sort of off to one 108 00:05:10,067 --> 00:05:12,187 Speaker 2: side on the live stream. Man, the quality of rugby 109 00:05:12,307 --> 00:05:12,587 Speaker 2: is good. 110 00:05:13,547 --> 00:05:15,827 Speaker 3: It's incredible. These teams are the ones that didn't make 111 00:05:15,907 --> 00:05:19,107 Speaker 3: it as well. I mean, I'm a Hamilton Boys old 112 00:05:19,187 --> 00:05:21,867 Speaker 3: boy and I went and saw my old team get 113 00:05:21,907 --> 00:05:25,427 Speaker 3: beaten by in the dying second. So this team is 114 00:05:25,467 --> 00:05:27,467 Speaker 3: an incredible try from the fullback. I think we're talking 115 00:05:27,467 --> 00:05:29,867 Speaker 3: about a seventy meter try, aren't we here, Pony, you. 116 00:05:30,467 --> 00:05:33,427 Speaker 2: Just watching the replay, he's beaten about seventeen guys. 117 00:05:34,187 --> 00:05:37,147 Speaker 3: Yeah, the fullback is unbelievable. So it also are a 118 00:05:37,267 --> 00:05:42,107 Speaker 3: powerhouse and they were probably anticipated all the favorites in 119 00:05:42,507 --> 00:05:45,867 Speaker 3: this top four, but fielding, they've beaten allcomers. Really. They've 120 00:05:45,987 --> 00:05:49,267 Speaker 3: taken on Parmi boys here that have had an exceptional season. 121 00:05:49,707 --> 00:05:52,507 Speaker 3: They beat Hastings as well on the way here and 122 00:05:52,587 --> 00:05:55,947 Speaker 3: Westlake the other day to make the final. And I 123 00:05:56,027 --> 00:05:58,707 Speaker 3: think that's just exceptional for what is really, you know, 124 00:05:59,227 --> 00:06:01,907 Speaker 3: a class at co ed school, sixteen hundred kids from 125 00:06:02,667 --> 00:06:05,067 Speaker 3: a country town. Although I'm very surprised to see on 126 00:06:05,107 --> 00:06:08,787 Speaker 3: Wikipedia that the population of Fielding is eighteen thousand. Did 127 00:06:08,827 --> 00:06:11,707 Speaker 3: you a population of eighteen thousand? Is that correct? 128 00:06:12,147 --> 00:06:13,987 Speaker 2: Well, if you'd ask me how many people live in Fielding, 129 00:06:14,027 --> 00:06:16,587 Speaker 2: I would have been well down below ten thousand. I 130 00:06:16,627 --> 00:06:17,587 Speaker 2: would have said seven or one. 131 00:06:18,347 --> 00:06:21,267 Speaker 3: Someone's gone on to Wikipedia and messed with that. Surely 132 00:06:21,747 --> 00:06:25,267 Speaker 3: it can't be. Please people from Fielding come and text 133 00:06:25,347 --> 00:06:27,867 Speaker 3: in and tell us what your actual population is because 134 00:06:28,267 --> 00:06:31,307 Speaker 3: it doesn't feel correct. But a I'm happy for them. 135 00:06:31,347 --> 00:06:33,747 Speaker 3: A school that produced Aaron Smith and the White Loot Brothers. Yeah, 136 00:06:33,787 --> 00:06:36,187 Speaker 3: they are good at Rugby, a powerhouse in the co 137 00:06:36,947 --> 00:06:38,907 Speaker 3: ed scene. But if they were to get up I 138 00:06:38,947 --> 00:06:40,427 Speaker 3: don't think they will. But if they were to get 139 00:06:40,507 --> 00:06:43,187 Speaker 3: up today, there would be. It would really make history 140 00:06:43,227 --> 00:06:46,067 Speaker 3: in this competition, which is always you know, the usual suspects. 141 00:06:46,707 --> 00:06:49,067 Speaker 2: Text the population of Fielding to nine two ninety two 142 00:06:49,147 --> 00:06:51,867 Speaker 2: if you have the official word. Hey, now the Warriors 143 00:06:52,307 --> 00:06:54,747 Speaker 2: have dropped out of the top four because the Broncos 144 00:06:54,867 --> 00:06:58,547 Speaker 2: won last night. The Sharks play the Newcastle Knights later 145 00:06:58,587 --> 00:07:01,307 Speaker 2: and they'll absolutely win that. So the Warriors are faced 146 00:07:01,347 --> 00:07:03,987 Speaker 2: with the with the It's a pretty simple equation really. 147 00:07:04,067 --> 00:07:05,827 Speaker 2: Now they've got to beat Manly and then they got 148 00:07:05,867 --> 00:07:07,747 Speaker 2: to hope both the Broncos and the Sharks lose next 149 00:07:07,747 --> 00:07:11,067 Speaker 2: weekend to finish fourth. You reckon, yeah, I mean it's 150 00:07:11,787 --> 00:07:13,707 Speaker 2: I mean, how likely does that seem? All of that. 151 00:07:15,307 --> 00:07:18,107 Speaker 3: Highly unlikely. I don't think the Warriors will make the 152 00:07:18,227 --> 00:07:20,947 Speaker 3: top four. I think you know, it's Daily Cherry Evans' 153 00:07:21,027 --> 00:07:23,467 Speaker 3: final game at Brookvale next week. That's the issue, right, 154 00:07:23,627 --> 00:07:27,827 Speaker 3: that's the passion for Daily Cherry Evans at Brookvale. Not 155 00:07:27,907 --> 00:07:31,427 Speaker 3: a happy hunting ground at all for the Warriors historically. 156 00:07:31,507 --> 00:07:35,867 Speaker 3: So I think there's going to be well, I think 157 00:07:35,947 --> 00:07:38,387 Speaker 3: Fielding about to score an incredible try. I know almost. 158 00:07:38,427 --> 00:07:41,227 Speaker 3: But I think what's happened is the Warriors have been 159 00:07:41,787 --> 00:07:44,547 Speaker 3: i'd say one of the most unconvincing top four teams 160 00:07:44,587 --> 00:07:47,547 Speaker 3: in history. You know, their points falling against is very low, 161 00:07:47,587 --> 00:07:50,027 Speaker 3: almost one hundred points down on the other teams. But 162 00:07:50,187 --> 00:07:52,787 Speaker 3: they've managed to do it really on the sniff of 163 00:07:52,787 --> 00:07:55,427 Speaker 3: an early rag. I mean, let's be honest, they're key 164 00:07:55,467 --> 00:07:58,627 Speaker 3: playmakers and just Luke Metcalf. Their best player is a 165 00:07:58,707 --> 00:08:02,187 Speaker 3: nineteen year old Lequahalasima who mainly plays off the bench. 166 00:08:02,587 --> 00:08:06,667 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just the team that's probably just punching 167 00:08:06,707 --> 00:08:10,187 Speaker 3: above its weights, and I think at the moment they 168 00:08:10,307 --> 00:08:13,547 Speaker 3: really don't want to. I guess face one of those 169 00:08:13,627 --> 00:08:16,227 Speaker 3: teams who are hitting really good form. And I'm thinking 170 00:08:16,267 --> 00:08:18,107 Speaker 3: about the Roosters right now. You don't want to have 171 00:08:18,147 --> 00:08:20,787 Speaker 3: to play them in the playoffs, No, and that. 172 00:08:20,947 --> 00:08:24,467 Speaker 2: May well be the scenario that they face. Hey, no 173 00:08:24,547 --> 00:08:27,987 Speaker 2: one's texted the fielding population, but somebody is helpfully texted 174 00:08:28,067 --> 00:08:29,747 Speaker 2: through that at the moment to Ash Burton at his 175 00:08:29,827 --> 00:08:31,867 Speaker 2: six degrees. That's good to know, isn't it. 176 00:08:33,067 --> 00:08:38,587 Speaker 3: I like that it gets a town roundup please, But yeah, 177 00:08:39,147 --> 00:08:40,947 Speaker 3: when we went on a deep dive of populations of 178 00:08:40,987 --> 00:08:43,347 Speaker 3: towns last night. We can talk about that another time, 179 00:08:43,427 --> 00:08:45,347 Speaker 3: but I just did want to mention that the Wellington 180 00:08:45,387 --> 00:08:49,067 Speaker 3: Phoenix betting left out of this Oceania competition is such 181 00:08:49,107 --> 00:08:52,067 Speaker 3: a massive snub. I bet you. David Dome is absolutely 182 00:08:52,147 --> 00:08:53,787 Speaker 3: fuming and he probably wouldn't even want to go on 183 00:08:53,947 --> 00:08:57,427 Speaker 3: radio because you'd probably start saying things that would backfire 184 00:08:57,547 --> 00:09:00,787 Speaker 3: on the on the side. But it just seems the 185 00:09:00,867 --> 00:09:03,267 Speaker 3: biggest belief given that Uklan they've seen now have a 186 00:09:03,387 --> 00:09:06,147 Speaker 3: chance to qualify for the World Club Final, which of 187 00:09:06,187 --> 00:09:08,987 Speaker 3: course you know what it's like. You play Chelsea, you 188 00:09:09,067 --> 00:09:13,387 Speaker 3: play Paris and jer Man, it's immense And for the Phoenix, 189 00:09:13,547 --> 00:09:17,027 Speaker 3: as a protein that's been around for fifty ninde years, 190 00:09:17,547 --> 00:09:20,587 Speaker 3: not to get invited as just seems like a massive 191 00:09:20,627 --> 00:09:24,147 Speaker 3: slap in the face. But hey, we've all been there, poney, 192 00:09:24,187 --> 00:09:26,707 Speaker 3: whether it's a wedding or a golf weekend where we 193 00:09:26,787 --> 00:09:28,987 Speaker 3: feel that we could have added value but we don't 194 00:09:29,027 --> 00:09:30,787 Speaker 3: get the call up, and you know you're just going 195 00:09:30,827 --> 00:09:31,387 Speaker 3: to suck it up. 196 00:09:31,867 --> 00:09:34,427 Speaker 2: I've been slapped in the face and snubbed numerous times 197 00:09:35,547 --> 00:09:38,907 Speaker 2: in lots of different scenarios. Fielding populations seventeen and a 198 00:09:38,947 --> 00:09:41,547 Speaker 2: half thousand, says this text. The school is a boarding 199 00:09:41,587 --> 00:09:44,507 Speaker 2: school which brings students in from all over the place. 200 00:09:44,787 --> 00:09:46,507 Speaker 2: Got to go, mate, But let's chat again next Sunday 201 00:09:46,547 --> 00:09:49,107 Speaker 2: after an all Black swins, shall we cheers? 202 00:09:49,147 --> 00:09:49,947 Speaker 3: Mate? Sounds good? 203 00:09:50,027 --> 00:09:53,827 Speaker 2: Yeah? Go fielding, Go fielding, and go James mccarney's. 204 00:09:54,307 --> 00:09:57,467 Speaker 1: For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, Listen live 205 00:09:57,587 --> 00:10:00,867 Speaker 1: to News Talk z B weekends from midday, or follow 206 00:10:00,947 --> 00:10:02,507 Speaker 1: the podcast on iHeartRadio.