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Speaker 1: with Adean Wilson, Anna Stanley and Jenny wood so By
Speaker 1: News Talks ab.
Speaker 2: Got Da Koto and welcome to our very first episode
Speaker 2: of Inside Netball for twenty twenty five. It is fabulous
Speaker 2: to be back and we're certainly looking forward to the
Speaker 2: season ahead, and it's great to be recording in our
Speaker 2: new studio here also at mzmy. And of course it
Speaker 2: is the Inside Needy team minus Gen. Today we do
Speaker 2: have a former Silver Fans captain Adean Wilson and can
Speaker 2: I just say current Premier netball player over.
Speaker 1: On the shore with us day down? What have I done?
Speaker 2: It's literally taking me all week to recover. I got surprised.
Speaker 2: I did not know we had to play grading on
Speaker 2: a concretecord. To be fair, it has been decades since
Speaker 2: I've played outside. I take my hat off. There was wind,
Speaker 2: there was battling the elements, and it wasn't just one
Speaker 2: game but two, and one of them was like, wasn't
Speaker 2: it early in the morning on Saturday? And I'm good
Speaker 2: with early. Early's totally fine. It was weir and so yes,
Speaker 2: you know, we're very fortunate we've got a team full
Speaker 2: of former Ferns and all of us turned up and
Speaker 2: looked at a wet outdoor court and almost turned around
Speaker 2: and got back in our cars. But we did it.
Speaker 2: We won and I cannot believe it. We're in prem ones.
Speaker 2: What have we done?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: You didn't just win, you walloped the team.
Speaker 2: So very impressive and we will keep you up to
Speaker 2: date here on the Inside Netble Chats this year. As
Speaker 2: to Adan's progress, well, of course, the season kicks in
Speaker 2: to get in just a few more weeks. The ain
Speaker 2: Z Premiership sun Corps super Netbulk got under way last weekend.
Speaker 2: Our very own Grace and Neweki made her Premiership debut
Speaker 2: for the Swifts. Jenny and Adan were fortunate enough to
Speaker 2: catch up with Grace with a quick interview after that
Speaker 2: Round one performance, and we will bring you that chat
Speaker 2: in today's episode. We'll talk about what's been happening in
Speaker 2: the netball world over the last few months, plus the
Speaker 2: rule changes taking on the a Zed Premiership this year.
Speaker 2: The Inside Needy team will give you a yay or
Speaker 2: a nay for the four rule changes that will take place.
Speaker 2: But firstly, she really is our golden girl. The Swifts
Speaker 2: came away with the first round one over the Fever
Speaker 2: in the sun Court by whopping eighteen goals.
Speaker 1: Here's our amazing.
Speaker 2: Grace inside Nile Grace and Wiki welcome to Inside Nipple
Speaker 2: and Wow, what a debut only a few days ago.
Speaker 2: Talk us through the nerves or were no extra nerves
Speaker 2: than what you're used to having stepping out on court.
Speaker 4: There were definitely nerves. They kind of came quite late.
Speaker 4: I think I didn't really take stock of the fact
Speaker 4: that I was making my debut up until maybe like
Speaker 4: a few days up from the game. I've putten a
Speaker 4: whole preseason being like I'm so ready to play, and
Speaker 4: I kind of forgot that playing it's going to be
Speaker 4: for the first time, which means making a debut and
Speaker 4: kind of how I guess, the the spectacle it that is,
Speaker 4: and how amazing that kind of first moment. That's first
Speaker 4: moments always are. So it was a bit of a late,
Speaker 4: I guess realization. And then it kind of all hit
Speaker 4: me when we got to pro a movement to the
Speaker 4: captain's run. I was looking around and I was like
Speaker 4: talking to Helen about how shit. It's funny because you know,
Speaker 4: you've kind of like performed on quote unquote bigger stages
Speaker 4: in the past, so it feels like, uh, in ways
Speaker 4: like different to be like having this huge moment of
Speaker 4: making an SCN debut, having played in World Cups and.
Speaker 3: Calm Games and whatnot.
Speaker 4: But it was definitely like a huge, huge honor and
Speaker 4: a lots of excitement around it, and I think getting
Speaker 4: there was the time. I always find my favorite part
Speaker 4: of a netball game is that moment when you have
Speaker 4: to go. You go out to the back and you've
Speaker 4: done the woman, you've done the team talk. It just
Speaker 4: just sat starting seven in a huddle, you know, looking
Speaker 4: everyone eye to eye and like really getting ged up
Speaker 4: for the game. And in that moment, it really all
Speaker 4: hit me that I'm standing here with these six of
Speaker 4: the people who I've just met a couple of months ago,
Speaker 4: when I've just done this huge pre season with them,
Speaker 4: and I'm wearing this red dresser in Perth, and it
Speaker 4: was like whoa, Like, why am I not in Auckland
Speaker 4: and we're are all my sixteen mates.
Speaker 3: So it was a huge kind of like holy, holy moly,
Speaker 3: this is real right now.
Speaker 4: Well, but it was really profound a lot of big
Speaker 4: sense of pride to be there and experience that and
Speaker 4: gratitude for I guess the people that have helped me
Speaker 4: get there and the journey I've been on from the
Speaker 4: day that I basically find to coming and taking court
Speaker 4: there for it was really special moment.
Speaker 5: So how did the intensity compare would say a test game,
Speaker 5: I'd say it was.
Speaker 4: Right up there, And yeah, it wasn't that first kind
Speaker 4: of like ten minute thing on the court where I
Speaker 4: was like, oh, yes, this is exactly where I wanted
Speaker 4: to be here. I was yet definitely had to adjust
Speaker 4: to the umpiring very quickly, the intensity of the crowd,
Speaker 4: the style of the sense that was being put on
Speaker 4: me like it was, it was a lot, and so
Speaker 4: it felt in waves quite si mon towards test match
Speaker 4: and just yeah, I guess the pressure in that moment too,
Speaker 4: I guess the expectations from people about how I should
Speaker 4: play and what the game should look like, and the
Speaker 4: expectations on the group as well. So there was definitely
Speaker 4: elements of that that resembled what it's like to play tests.
Speaker 2: And what's it been like building rapport with someone, you know,
Speaker 2: Helen Halsber used to be, you know, enemies on the court.
Speaker 2: You know, all of a sudden, you guys are playing
Speaker 2: to give out. What's that been, Like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been so great.
Speaker 4: It's been so funny as well, actually because I've had
Speaker 4: to talk about it a lot with Helen and like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I've always said that I've only ever seen her in
Speaker 4: that international netball space where she is like kind of
Speaker 4: a enigma. But she's got her ponytail slipped back, she's
Speaker 4: got the game face on. You don't mess with her.
Speaker 4: She's like the queen of English Network. So that whole
Speaker 4: I guess character is all that I've known about her
Speaker 4: forgetting to see her as a person, you know, see
Speaker 4: her in the morning with her coffee, her hair's on, Missy,
Speaker 4: there's no offense, humor, and just building that rapport as
Speaker 4: individuals before players.
Speaker 3: It's been really really enjoyable. She's a great person.
Speaker 4: I have a lot of time for her and a
Speaker 4: lot of respect for her and her journey and also
Speaker 4: her leadership. So I've really loved being guided by her
Speaker 4: in the attacking unit and being able to I guess
Speaker 4: thrown off each other and have our combo naturally come together.
Speaker 5: It was a big win for the Swifts. I mean,
Speaker 5: I think you shot fifty one goals. I mean, did
Speaker 5: you go out there with a target and that was
Speaker 5: what you were going to shoot.
Speaker 4: I've never gone into a game with the shooting target.
Speaker 4: It's not really where my focus life. I'm more so
Speaker 4: just wanting to be available for every ball. And if
Speaker 4: we're getting position, then I know it's my job to
Speaker 4: when people turned down the court, they can see me
Speaker 4: and know that I'm there for them. And so if
Speaker 4: the balls that were getting turned over, the balls were
Speaker 4: getting on us I'm bringing down in our CPA were
Speaker 4: successful and so my job was to be available. And
Speaker 4: I guess that's just how the game goes, and you know,
Speaker 4: one thing leads to another and you're putting up fifty goals.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's just I guess. It was great to
Speaker 4: be able to get that much volume through and my
Speaker 4: first tests and as a testament to the work of
Speaker 4: my feeders and our descenders getting those turnovers and really
Speaker 4: enabling our unit to play with such success. So really
Speaker 4: enjoy that and I'm very excited to keep going with it.
Speaker 4: Which is the numbers out.
Speaker 1: Two point shot now as well.
Speaker 2: You know it's been introduced here in New Zealand, but
Speaker 2: obviously it's been in the sun court for a while.
Speaker 2: You know, does that change your strategy? I mean, you
Speaker 2: still put up fifty one shot, so talk us through that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm Initially in pre season I was like, I
Speaker 4: don't like this, and you know, it's not my strength
Speaker 4: and it's changes the game. It brings teams to a
Speaker 4: down back in but I can appreciate the appeal for
Speaker 4: the spectators and also the opportunity it gives to keep
Speaker 4: gained close and competitive. So I'm learning to love it
Speaker 4: and embrace it. Also embrace the opportunity to shoot them,
Speaker 4: I think, to give myself license to turn and shoot
Speaker 4: those sup of shots.
Speaker 3: I know I need to do the work at training
Speaker 3: in the.
Speaker 4: Weeks to put that volume up, but it's a next
Speaker 4: funding prospect to add to my game. And I know
Speaker 4: that we have amazing shooters in this group who that
Speaker 4: sebread and butter, and so I always want to be
Speaker 4: able to get born hand and get them in a
Speaker 4: position to take those shots in the right time. But
Speaker 4: also if post came to shove, I'm excited to get
Speaker 4: to a point in the season where in those final
Speaker 4: moments I can turn and shoot as well.
Speaker 5: Well, you looked as though you you got to you
Speaker 5: got a held ball actually in one at one point
Speaker 5: Grace when you were you sort of did a bit
Speaker 5: of a twirl and you were obviously looking for Helen
Speaker 5: and she wasn't there, and you know, Fever did a
Speaker 5: good job on her. But were you going to shoot
Speaker 5: a two pointer?
Speaker 3: Then well that's the thing.
Speaker 4: So I know that exact one because we had quite
Speaker 4: a few laughs about it, and I yeah, I think
Speaker 4: it was an element of getting the cob without and
Speaker 4: just understanding what how much pressure I guess you start
Speaker 4: to feel in those moments and it's a lot of
Speaker 4: that decision making under pressure that I'm learning on the job.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I had ball in hand and I thought,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, I'll get I was under the post.
Speaker 3: I wanted to get Helen in turbing position and she
Speaker 3: was covered. In my head, I only have eyes to Helen.
Speaker 4: But the learning there for me is that I had
Speaker 4: my feet of on either side of me who I
Speaker 4: could ideally reset to. And a lot of the time
Speaker 4: where our game plan is to play more than one
Speaker 4: point game and if we land in the two.
Speaker 3: Zone, naturally we'll go to post.
Speaker 4: We're not going to force it and we know that
Speaker 4: we don't need to rely on the two points to
Speaker 4: stay in the game, will stay competitive.
Speaker 3: So I keep reminding myself that it just has to
Speaker 3: feel natural.
Speaker 4: But I do also want to give myself opportunity to
Speaker 4: shoot those But again, like I'm not going to force it.
Speaker 4: If I land within my range, which is typically under
Speaker 4: the post, I alternating shoot. If I happen to be
Speaker 4: in a setup where I can go to the post
Speaker 4: from range, I also want to be able to do that.
Speaker 2: You look to be just glowing. It sounds like you're
Speaker 2: having a phenomenal time over there. You're loving it. I mean,
Speaker 2: your davy couldn't have gone any better, I imagine, But
Speaker 2: there must still be that little connection still to home,
Speaker 2: you know, are you still speaking with the Silver Fin coaches?
Speaker 2: Where are you at with that or if you just
Speaker 2: put that all to one side at the moment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, definitely enjoying my time here, definitely. I'm really
Speaker 4: grateful for the opportunity, and I think I think I'm
Speaker 4: in the best place that I have been so far
Speaker 4: at the moment, and it hasn't come easy. So I
Speaker 4: think I think what people can see and what's been
Speaker 4: shared as a lot of the highs and the positives
Speaker 4: and the enjoyment of being here in Sydney.
Speaker 3: But there have been some really hard days and some
Speaker 3: challenging moments.
Speaker 4: That I've had to come overcome, and I'm sure there'll
Speaker 4: be more down the track, but I guess that's the
Speaker 4: beauty of, you know, getting out of your comfort zone
Speaker 4: and challenging yourself.
Speaker 3: So you're really enjoying my time here and decision.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I would. It's not lost on me that
Speaker 4: gets the implications of it. And I think right now
Speaker 4: my focus is solely on the season. I've made my
Speaker 4: bed as such, and so I'm choosing to enjoy the
Speaker 4: sleep and just really have fund the season, learn lots,
Speaker 4: soak it all in and I guess obviously the future
Speaker 4: and the the whatever the international season looks like this
Speaker 4: year does fit wear my mind a bit, but it's
Speaker 4: a lot of it's out of my control, I think
Speaker 4: consons in the sense that it's still part of the
Speaker 4: leadership group with friends. There's lots of planning and discussions
Speaker 4: that happened throughout the year that I'm very grateful to
Speaker 4: still be included in. And that's still a team in
Speaker 4: the space that a lot of my heart is with
Speaker 4: so to still be able to contribute to that space
Speaker 4: off the court is really important to me, So I'm
Speaker 4: grateful to still be involved in that and whether my
Speaker 4: contributions can become more physical later in the year. I'm
Speaker 4: still hopeful, hopeful, maybe I don't know if it's a
Speaker 4: pipe dream, but that I'll be able to suit up
Speaker 4: for the season. But really my focus is on having
Speaker 4: success here in Sydney and being able to hopefully make
Speaker 4: more of an informed decision about my future when the
Speaker 4: time comes.
Speaker 5: So are you saying grace that there might be a
Speaker 5: little bit of a chance that we might see you
Speaker 5: in the black dress later in the year.
Speaker 2: We've all got our fingers and toes crossed by the way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm very much a believer of like you, kind
Speaker 4: of like what you put out there and what you manifest,
Speaker 4: I guess is what will come to fruition. So I'm
Speaker 4: still holding out hope in my end. I've had no
Speaker 4: concrete colm or anything to give me more hope than
Speaker 4: I had two months ago, but the hope remains and
Speaker 4: it's an exciting prospect with I guess the space room
Speaker 4: right now and how the form that I'm finding at
Speaker 4: the moment and also what the girls will be able
Speaker 4: to do when they a died this year, So it's
Speaker 4: a team that I always want to be a part of.
Speaker 4: And so yeah, just helping fingers crossed like the rest
Speaker 4: of you guys, and just seeing what happens.
Speaker 1: How much are you loving Sydney and the weather I beat? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's quite nice. Been slightly warmer than what we've got
Speaker 1: here now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been so great. It's been lovely.
Speaker 4: It's almost been quite similar to Awkland like in terms
Speaker 4: of it being quite humid and kind of different all
Speaker 4: four seasons in one day, but across the boarder where
Speaker 4: there has been lovely hair and we had a great
Speaker 4: summer and still get some really beautiful days. That we
Speaker 4: landed from Perth on Useterday and the sun was shining,
Speaker 4: so we all just had to go to the beach
Speaker 4: after from there before we had the day off, and
Speaker 4: it's just stuff like that. To be fair, you can
Speaker 4: do it Awklin if you wanted to. But there's such
Speaker 4: good spots all of Sydney, so I really enjoyed getting
Speaker 4: out and about and being a bit a bit of tourist.
Speaker 5: So this is your first time living away from home,
Speaker 5: isn't it I think? So you know, what are the
Speaker 5: living arrangements?
Speaker 4: Yeah, for my first time living on of Auckland, I
Speaker 4: was actually lived. I was slanting in Auckland for the
Speaker 4: past three years. But yeah, first time being I guess
Speaker 4: having a full ocean of separation between my friends and family.
Speaker 4: So at the moment living with Shannie, one of the
Speaker 4: other girls in the team. She's from Melbourne, so we're
Speaker 4: both new to the state, so it's a nice to
Speaker 4: kind of lean on each other and that sense of
Speaker 4: homesickness and kind of being out.
Speaker 3: Of routine and way.
Speaker 4: So we live together and not too far from training,
Speaker 4: like a ten minute drive, so it's just nice because
Speaker 4: obviously Sydney is so big and the road's is so crazy,
Speaker 4: so to have a bit of familiarity and get a
Speaker 4: labor land has been quite good. And yeah, just really
Speaker 4: enjoying the dynamic, getting to know her better and getting
Speaker 4: to enjoy all the girls in the team, and I
Speaker 4: guess building those relationships and finning time enjoying an amazing
Speaker 4: city to live in. So it's been really great and
Speaker 4: I feel very lucky that of all the places to
Speaker 4: end up, I got to be in Sydney.
Speaker 5: Who drives?
Speaker 3: I do? I do? I drive?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've had to learn the hard way for the
Speaker 4: tunnels and all the rest. But I think it's done
Speaker 4: some great character building. Like I said, they want to
Speaker 4: come here and grow as a person, and I think
Speaker 4: I'm growing in my driving fields as well, so I
Speaker 4: can't complain about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you got You've got the Aussie lingo? I
Speaker 2: remember they used to talk about texters.
Speaker 1: Do you know what a texture is?
Speaker 3: I don't know what a texture is, but it's.
Speaker 1: Like a vivid I'm like, why are they cool?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So what's the what's the lingo that you had to
Speaker 1: come up with? Or god?
Speaker 2: Anything like they call bibs badgers or patches non they.
Speaker 3: Like the whole or they don't know.
Speaker 4: They don't have dairies here, Like if I'm going to
Speaker 4: the dairy, they're like, what's going to Even things like
Speaker 4: saying I don't know, like back in your tieling you'd
Speaker 4: be like, oh, honest to God, like honest and they'd
Speaker 4: be like, what do you mean? Or even like men
Speaker 4: that's so mean? They're like what that wasn't mean? I'm like, no,
Speaker 4: that that's good. So things like that, and then a
Speaker 4: couple of the things they say is like everything's mad
Speaker 4: and everything is like a weg out, like it's crazy
Speaker 4: a weg out. A wegout means that it's kind of
Speaker 4: like buzzy. So I'm learning a few things and I
Speaker 4: do think they able to bring it back to New Villain.
Speaker 3: Put the girls onto some OUSI lingo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, look, we really appreciate your time. We can
Speaker 2: tell that you're having a fabulous time over there. We
Speaker 2: really appreciate you coming on and it sounds like you're
Speaker 2: having huge days, very busy days, full days, So thank
Speaker 2: you so much. But before we let you go, we're
Speaker 2: also starting in our pod this new thing called Fast five.
Speaker 2: So we've got five questions. It's a bit of fun,
Speaker 2: so you don't have to think too hard about them.
Speaker 1: And Ginna, you're going to kick us off.
Speaker 2: You're our very first person doing our fast fight, so
Speaker 2: we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 3: Okay, you want like a short answer like, okay.
Speaker 5: So what's your go to post game snack or meal?
Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm thinking go to post game meal? All parts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you could compete in any other sport, what
Speaker 2: would it be and why.
Speaker 3: Basketball?
Speaker 4: Because that the NBA looks back a pretty cool environment
Speaker 4: and it's growing rapidly and love to be part of it.
Speaker 5: Who in your team is most likely to a get
Speaker 5: you into trouble.
Speaker 4: In trouble probably Alie Smith out of trouble, Mattie Turner.
Speaker 2: If you could take three athletes in the world, karrent
Speaker 2: or present and have them for dinner, this is a
Speaker 2: tricky one. Who springs to mind your three athletes?
Speaker 4: Let's huge. I would have Simone Vials. I would want
Speaker 4: to chat with Yannis Anti Compo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and hm hmm. Third one the Williams. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And what would you be eating at that meal?
Speaker 3: We would do probably like Italian have like starters, like.
Speaker 4: Some oysters, some seafood to each and I'm just talking
Speaker 4: about my favorite food, like some seafood to start, and
Speaker 4: then like a good like authentic carbonara or like taccio pepper,
Speaker 4: some good complimentary wine and then some like terma food
Speaker 4: to finish.
Speaker 5: That was a very well full I did not expect
Speaker 5: that to be quite so sophisticated.
Speaker 3: I out yet.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, oh Grace, thank you so much. It's been
Speaker 5: a joy to speak to you and look for all
Speaker 5: the best for this weekend.
Speaker 3: Thanks, thanks so much. I appreciate having the chat.
Speaker 1: Take care you look after yourself.
Speaker 2: We're watching with a lot of pleasure this side of
Speaker 2: the Tasman scene.
Speaker 1: How are you going? It's very cool?
Speaker 3: Oh, thanks so much guy, I appreciate it.
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Speaker 1: Well, what a remarkable young lady Grace is.
Speaker 2: And she'd be pretty good if you did in my
Speaker 2: kitchen rolls, because boy, that cuisine that she was just
Speaker 2: talking about very impressive, Ceviche. I don't think I even
Speaker 2: knew what Ceviche was. A twenty though, she's just gonna
Speaker 2: say Italian full stop. But no, she launched into it
Speaker 2: and that's why I think she's loving Sydney. All those
Speaker 2: options over there are very cool. But wasn't it fascinating
Speaker 2: listening to her how insightful she was, intelligent, smart, The
Speaker 2: fact that she, you know, having spent her most of
Speaker 2: her netble, all of her netble in New Zealand with
Speaker 2: a mystic, she realized that she needed to be challenged
Speaker 2: more and that came at a price, and that price
Speaker 2: was wearing the silver Ferns dress. I love the fact
Speaker 2: that she's manifesting it a dean and she still thinks
Speaker 2: it's going to happen because you know, they say think
Speaker 2: about it, or it might just happen. You know, I
Speaker 2: personally think I would love for Neble New Zealand to
Speaker 2: change that rule slightly because she is she is an
Speaker 2: exception to the rule. Look, we get it, we don't
Speaker 2: want open Slava. We don't want all New Zealand players
Speaker 2: going to Australia and playing and so it would just
Speaker 2: decimate the age. So we get there has to be
Speaker 2: some rules around it. But it seems to be sticking
Speaker 2: very hard and fast, this one hundred cap rule. And again,
Speaker 2: yeah that worked when it was Laura and Maria went
Speaker 2: to Katrina it already so it just conveniently that one
Speaker 2: hundred test cap worked then.
Speaker 1: But do they need to relook at it?
Speaker 2: You know, you look at what they doing Rugby and
Speaker 2: sign a you know who we just had Damie McKenzie
Speaker 2: and Judy Barrett. You know, you can negotiate a long
Speaker 2: term deal to commit to New Zealand, but you give
Speaker 2: them a sabbatical for a year, or you give them
Speaker 2: that option. And yes, you're only gonna do that for
Speaker 2: your top talent. But do you just make it a
Speaker 2: little bit more subjective to just have that hard one
Speaker 2: hundred test cats. I just don't know, Let's be honest.
Speaker 2: When she played how many months ago in concert, that's
Speaker 2: how long it's been netble as well, it's been forever
Speaker 2: since we're seeing any netball.
Speaker 1: She was the difference. She is phenomenal. It is scary to.
Speaker 2: Think she will not be there, potentially in the black
Speaker 2: dress in the next time they meet. For Tiny Jamison, Well,
Speaker 2: it's scary that it might not only be Grace, But
Speaker 2: I read somewhere in an article the other day saying
Speaker 2: that Ameliam Warmsley might not even be in the black
Speaker 2: dress this year for the fans because of her workload
Speaker 2: this year with New Zealand under twenty ones as well
Speaker 2: as am Z Premiership. So we could not have Grace
Speaker 2: Newiki and then probably think the next best shoot to
Speaker 2: write is Wormsley, So we may be without gosh two
Speaker 2: of our best Goull shooters. But yeah, let's hope that
Speaker 2: she has a great season with the Swift. She's obviously
Speaker 2: started really well. In that win against the Fever, eighteen goals,
Speaker 2: didn't get a two point shot and looking forward to
Speaker 2: seeing if she fits any more of those up and yeah,
Speaker 2: I think we're all gunning for her to be back
Speaker 2: in that black dress at some point. But of course,
Speaker 2: the ain Zed Premiership it goes on without her. SUNCRP
Speaker 2: got underway last weekend. Three more weeks to go until
Speaker 2: the ain Z starts a Dean and there's a few
Speaker 2: changes this year. Four new rule changes now, and to
Speaker 2: be fair, something needed to be done. We've gone from
Speaker 2: three rounds to two rounds this year, so we needed
Speaker 2: something to give it a bit of razzle dazzle. So
Speaker 2: let's go through the rule changes. Let's start with the
Speaker 2: biggest one, which is probably the most talking point around
Speaker 2: the changes.
Speaker 1: The two point shot.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's been in the sun Court League for
Speaker 2: a while now, the last five minutes of every quarter.
Speaker 2: We are introducing that in the ain Zed but the
Speaker 2: two point line is slightly different. The SSN they have
Speaker 2: it at three meters. For the a Z Premiership, we're
Speaker 2: going to have it at three point five, which is
Speaker 2: the same distance as fast. Fine, are you saying a
Speaker 2: yay or a nay to that rule? I I can't
Speaker 2: believe it, but I'm saying a yay, because once upon
Speaker 2: a time, I don't keep the two point shot with
Speaker 2: fast traditionalists.
Speaker 1: It's such a diition. I didn't like it.
Speaker 2: But then you know, when I would watch the odd
Speaker 2: game of some corp when you'd have a blowout, you know,
Speaker 2: blow out.
Speaker 1: A netble if you're ten or fifteen, turn the TV off.
Speaker 2: I get bored, whereas throwing a two point shot that
Speaker 2: disappears in seconds when you've got that option. So it's
Speaker 2: taken me a world be convinced, but I've reached that
Speaker 2: point that I want to say yay. But I do
Speaker 2: like the fact it's not for the whole game. I
Speaker 2: like that it's five minutes. I know you were like me,
Speaker 2: you weren't sure. Are you convinced? I wasn't sure as well,
Speaker 2: because I'm a bit like you. I'm a traditionalist. I
Speaker 2: love the seven A side game, but I just feel
Speaker 2: the A and Z Premiership has become a bit stale
Speaker 2: and we need some excitement and we need some fresh approach,
Speaker 2: and so this I think will be ideal.
Speaker 1: I think perhaps it would have been.
Speaker 2: It would have been nice for the coaches had they
Speaker 2: known these rule changes prior to selecting their players. Absolutely
Speaker 2: then they could have selected them based on, you know,
Speaker 2: getting some long range shooters in there, because to be fair,
Speaker 2: there are some shooters in our league that probably won't
Speaker 2: be very good at putting those two point shots up.
Speaker 1: Some will be very good.
Speaker 2: So that's been thrown at the coaches a little bit,
Speaker 2: but I'm definitely a yay. It adds excitement, it brings
Speaker 2: in the fans, So that's a definite es from.
Speaker 1: Both of us.
Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting though is that it's different to some
Speaker 2: uncle and to the UK League. So they have gone
Speaker 2: forward at three meters versus three point five and speaking
Speaker 2: to neat New Zealand, that is off the back off.
Speaker 2: Speaking to the players, it was the players that fed
Speaker 2: back no, we want it to be consistent with fast five,
Speaker 2: which makes sense. It makes me scratch my head and go, well,
Speaker 2: why did Osie do it different? Because they like to
Speaker 2: be different they I mean, we're not shooters, but three
Speaker 2: meters to three point point five of a meter probably
Speaker 2: a little bit easier for the SECN girls to get
Speaker 2: those two point shots, and half a meter is probably
Speaker 2: a little bit you know as a shooter. Okay, next
Speaker 2: one coach box Okay, So now both teams will have
Speaker 2: both coaches will have essentially a coach box and it's
Speaker 2: three by one where they are allowed to stand in
Speaker 2: and coach from the side. So it's very much like basketball.
Speaker 2: So in front of the signage, yes they could. They
Speaker 2: can jump over the old signage that sits there and
Speaker 2: they can do whatever they do from from the coaching box.
Speaker 1: Yay or a nay. Love. I love this.
Speaker 2: Such a basket and I know Jenny, if she was here,
Speaker 2: would be going eah.
Speaker 1: She hates the idea of this. I love it.
Speaker 2: Look in netball, you want characters, and by having a coach,
Speaker 2: Let's be honest, Donna Wilkins, she is going to be
Speaker 2: so comfortable in this coach's box.
Speaker 1: I want to see the coaches on.
Speaker 2: The sideline walking up and down, shouting out their instructions, Like,
Speaker 2: I think this is fabulous. I think these are the
Speaker 2: things we want to see a netbull. I know some
Speaker 2: people were going to go, oh, that's a bit like basketball.
Speaker 1: Well, hello, basketball.
Speaker 2: Is a global game, is super successful and there's a
Speaker 2: reason for it. So if we take some of those
Speaker 2: clever things they've had in basketball, what's wrong with that?
Speaker 2: I mean, no, lean, can you imagine what Knowles is
Speaker 2: going to be like in the coach's box. Well, they
Speaker 2: were all standing up the last kind of year. That
Speaker 2: the bench has changed a lot. In the silver Ferns
Speaker 2: they are standing up a lot more, and Knowles has
Speaker 2: sort of walked up and down pay stuff and down
Speaker 2: the towel.
Speaker 1: Throwing your towels around on the sideline.
Speaker 2: I'm more that I just don't see that it's going
Speaker 2: to change the game. I think if you're if you're
Speaker 2: a coach sitting on the bench as opposed to the
Speaker 2: coaching box, you can still get your message across to
Speaker 2: the players. You can cropper sitting on it still. I
Speaker 2: get what you mean. It's it's just adding another layer
Speaker 2: of excitement and something different. Yes, I agree, but I
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to end add any advantage to
Speaker 2: the teams, if you kind of get what I mean.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's a yay in an a from me. Okay, Okay.
Speaker 2: Team timeouts So now they're suggesting that, well they're imposing
Speaker 2: that we can have two ninety second timeouts per team,
Speaker 2: so you can have one a half. Okay, So that's
Speaker 2: four timeouts in total, which ends up being six minutes
Speaker 2: six minutes of extra stoppages per match.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're an a Yet again, I'm a yay.
Speaker 2: I love this because again, what people when you speak
Speaker 2: to fans, one of the things that they love hearing
Speaker 2: is coaches coaching, and they love it when there's a
Speaker 2: microphone in there and you're hearing what the coaches are
Speaker 2: having to say, you're hearing what players are having to say.
Speaker 1: This is four more opportunities to hear that. They may
Speaker 1: not use it.
Speaker 2: Again, yes, people may argue it's a bit like basketball
Speaker 2: you don't always use your timeouts. Again, it's adding a
Speaker 2: bit of strategy as well. When do you use it?
Speaker 2: Do you use it? Back in the day, we used
Speaker 2: to i'm a context fallen out. We'll just take two
Speaker 2: minutes because the other team's on a roll. So again,
Speaker 2: I think it brings in a bit of strategy. It
Speaker 2: brings in the fans by adding another opportunity to hear
Speaker 2: what the coaches and players are going to say. So again,
Speaker 2: love the innovation. Didn't we used to say before we
Speaker 2: were injured, you know, and Chessy Kearney would run on,
Speaker 2: We'd say banana just beforehand, so she knew that we're
Speaker 2: faking out. I mean the game has come a long way.
Speaker 2: I'm a yes as well, I'm a yak surprised. Ye, yes, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: I was a little bit on the fence, but I
Speaker 2: thought no. I think it's a good way for the
Speaker 2: players to learn, as you say, how to strategize. But
Speaker 2: more importantly, how do I identify when a role has
Speaker 2: been put on you or when things aren't going so well?
Speaker 2: And I think now we rely too much on other
Speaker 2: people trying to make that decision for us. So this
Speaker 2: puts the onus on the players. They can call the
Speaker 2: time out and go, oh god, you know, they've just
Speaker 2: scored four goals in a row. Something's going wrong here,
Speaker 2: let's call the timeout.
Speaker 1: Does it have to be a captain? It has to be.
Speaker 2: It needs to be requested by an on court player
Speaker 2: to the captain after a goal has been scored, So
Speaker 2: you can't just call it at any time after a
Speaker 2: game's been scored, which makes sense.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that's a ya and a ya.
Speaker 2: And the last one is the umpire mit during matches. Okay,
Speaker 2: do you know how many times broadcasts to the crowd
Speaker 2: and umpire blows their whistle in a game? They don't
Speaker 2: blow their whistle after a goal has.
Speaker 1: Been scored anymore. Do they know that changed about a
Speaker 1: year ago two years ago.
Speaker 2: Is the whole crowd is going to hear what the
Speaker 2: umpire is saying for the whole game, and okay, great,
Speaker 2: it'll add to the fan experience. The people, the spectators
Speaker 2: in the crowd will have an understanding of what's going on.
Speaker 1: But my lord, I don't.
Speaker 2: Think that's going to last because that whistle goes a
Speaker 2: lot a lot of times, I guess, depending on the umpire.
Speaker 1: So I'm just not a fan.
Speaker 2: I think if you're they're watching a game, hope you
Speaker 2: know enough about it to understand what's going on. I
Speaker 2: get that it does perhaps bring the crowd in a
Speaker 2: bit so they can understand. So I see that part.
Speaker 2: But I think if I had to say yeah or
Speaker 2: inn a, I'd be in a on that one.
Speaker 1: I am so on the fence on this one.
Speaker 2: Speaking to Jen and Etwi Zealand, they did trial this
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, I think maybe in Liverpool.
Speaker 2: It was definitely overseas and they said it was brilliant
Speaker 2: and fans loved it and they loved the fact that
Speaker 2: instead of scratching their heads and being like what was
Speaker 2: that call for? They absolutely hear it over the loud speaker.
Speaker 2: But my worry is the same as yours. All I've
Speaker 2: got in.
Speaker 1: My brain is this screeching whistle.
Speaker 2: That's just getting blown all the time, and is that
Speaker 2: going to overpower things? And then I was also worried.
Speaker 2: You know, what I think they've done well in the
Speaker 2: last few years is they've had music playing and different
Speaker 2: things that.
Speaker 1: Again have added to the atmosphere at the game.
Speaker 2: You know, will that still go And supposedly yes, they'll
Speaker 2: still have all that music, but you're going to have
Speaker 2: this umpire's you know voice, you know, going around the stadium.
Speaker 1: It sort of makes you think, do you remember in
Speaker 1: the old.
Speaker 2: Days and you'd go to cricket or something and old
Speaker 2: people have the little a little wireless on listening to
Speaker 2: the radio commentary as they watched the game.
Speaker 1: That's what.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like that, right, except it's going to
Speaker 2: be loud and out there. So yeah, I'm on the fence,
Speaker 2: I think, because I haven't experienced it, so I'm almost
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I'm just going to hear a
Speaker 2: shrill whistle or if it's going to be just like
Speaker 2: what we haven't at yet because when we're commentating, we
Speaker 2: hear the rev consistently, and when you think about that,
Speaker 2: I don't think about the whistle, do you.
Speaker 1: When we're commentating, think of.
Speaker 2: How many times they'll go, they'll call it, or they'll
Speaker 2: go advantage, goal, attack, advantage. We're going to be hearing
Speaker 2: a lot of advantages, contact offsite like it's just it
Speaker 2: is quite constant. But I think it'll be interesting after
Speaker 2: that first round. There's going to be a lot going
Speaker 2: on because as you say, there's still going to be
Speaker 2: music pumping during halftimes. Will they pump the music out
Speaker 2: during the timeouts as well? You know those ninety second timeouts,
Speaker 2: that's a chance to get it run up and get
Speaker 2: the kiss cam go and you get it. That is
Speaker 2: my worst night here, by the way, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: getting caught on kiscamp. So I guess when you look
Speaker 2: at all these rule changes, which team do you think
Speaker 2: are going to benefit from it the most? You look
Speaker 2: at that two point shot when I think of all
Speaker 2: the teams and the shooters, merely and Echinasio for me,
Speaker 2: stands out is probably one of the best long range shooters.
Speaker 2: I think she'll certainly pick up some two point shots.
Speaker 2: Tana Salmon, I mean Fast five, that was she was brilliant.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people didn't know too much
Speaker 2: about Mattina before Fast five, and then she was sinking
Speaker 2: those two point shots. And she's playing Mainland Tactics this year.
Speaker 2: She switched from the Pulse, so you know, does that hey?
Speaker 2: And again Donna Wilkins, she loves a long shot. She's
Speaker 2: a basketball. Speaking of those coaches, we've got three of
Speaker 2: our former players that we played with, Adeane Leanna debrayin,
Speaker 2: Bubby Timmy pat of George Clark. George Clark always forget
Speaker 2: which one she is, Donna and Wendy with the steer,
Speaker 2: so we're Lean and Liota lean and Liota true And actually,
Speaker 2: if you keep going Gable we played with her at
Speaker 2: some point as well to Jonga Selby Rackett.
Speaker 1: She's also assistant for the Tactics.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, isn't it bizarre and cool that there's
Speaker 2: this real swing around to sing everyone coaching? Yeah, and
Speaker 2: I think those coaches, the ones that we've just named,
Speaker 2: will really, you know, take on that coach's box and
Speaker 2: they'll get in there, as you say, and I think
Speaker 2: they'll embrace it. Donna will get that hand going and
Speaker 2: the towels will be swinging, which is great. So I
Speaker 2: think needed to be done. You know, I think that
Speaker 2: Ainzi was perhaps getting a little bit stale over the
Speaker 2: last few years, so this will add.
Speaker 1: Some excitement to it, no doubt.
Speaker 2: And funny you say that because it was a great article.
Speaker 2: Just the other day Lisa Alexander and Shannie Norder actually
Speaker 2: spoke about welcoming New Zealand teams back because they also
Speaker 2: felt like the Sun Corp is getting star So I
Speaker 2: think that's good everyone's starting to have these conversations.
Speaker 1: They're looking at rule changes.
Speaker 2: But it's also good that that it's the Australians talking
Speaker 2: about New Zealand coming and joining back as part of
Speaker 2: the Trans Tasmin League as well.
Speaker 1: So who knows?
Speaker 2: Lots A lot is unknown about twenty twenty sixth and
Speaker 2: that was an interesting article because Lisa Alexander thought that,
Speaker 2: you know, grab one team from the South, one team
Speaker 2: from the North, and those two are the teams that
Speaker 2: would go over and play in that Sun court, which
Speaker 2: got me thinking, you know what team from the South
Speaker 2: would you just pick the best of the steal and
Speaker 2: the tactics, and then would you have a team from
Speaker 2: up north the best of all the others, Like, how
Speaker 2: would that even roll if you did a South team
Speaker 2: and a North team because the South team would be
Speaker 2: an advantage straight away because there's only two teams down there. Look,
Speaker 2: it'd be a hard one too, wouldn't it, because you know, yes,
Speaker 2: you get paid to play netball, but you're getting even
Speaker 2: more people that are going to have to move from
Speaker 2: their home bases if you've only got two teams.
Speaker 1: So I mean a lot of.
Speaker 2: Things you'd have to look into, and you'd have to
Speaker 2: make sure those players were getting paid well enough for
Speaker 2: them to make that commitment because you'd be flying to Australia.
Speaker 2: Well you know, like the Breaker is like the Warriors,
Speaker 2: You'll be spending a lot of time and some people
Speaker 2: may not even want to be available for that. Well
Speaker 2: let's be honest, they probably would because I'd love to be.
Speaker 3: Part of it.
Speaker 2: So yet, a lot of things and actually a great
Speaker 2: amount of opportunity. And you're hearing a lot from Liz Allis.
Speaker 2: You know, she's the new chair chair Award and she
Speaker 2: seems she is not scared to take a punt. She's
Speaker 2: brave and so I think a lot could change over
Speaker 2: the next couple of years. Well that aren't they bringing
Speaker 2: out their ten year vision Australian Netball, So I'll be
Speaker 2: interested to see. I think one of the one thing
Speaker 2: that's in there is they're old bringing netball into the
Speaker 2: Olympic sport in twenty year two, So I think she's
Speaker 2: pushing that.
Speaker 1: But I guess just lastly, if we look.
Speaker 2: At what's been happening in the NETWORW world over the
Speaker 2: last couple of months, the sol fans, they haven't played
Speaker 2: since October since we won that Constellation Cup with Grace.
Speaker 1: The Nation's Cup.
Speaker 2: Went ahead England Malawi again to South Africa. Great that
Speaker 2: Uganda got third. England beat South Africa in the final,
Speaker 2: so that was that was the Nation's Cup in January.
Speaker 2: The top three nations didn't go. But what we did
Speaker 2: is we went and played in a tournament with the Swifts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just find it so weird.
Speaker 2: I cannot think of in recent years when there has
Speaker 2: been such a huge break of televised netball. It was
Speaker 2: October last year, and yes A and Z is starting
Speaker 2: later than usual, but we normally see something in January
Speaker 2: so it's been quite strange and no one's.
Speaker 1: Really given us a real reason.
Speaker 2: Why why haven't we you know, why why didn't the
Speaker 2: Silver Ferns go? Why didn't Australia go or Jamaica or Jamaica?
Speaker 2: And then and I was also surprised how little information
Speaker 2: even came out of that New South Wales trip for
Speaker 2: the Ferns. You really didn't hear a lot or even
Speaker 2: on socials. So yeah, a bit of a head scratcher
Speaker 2: for me. Why we've been such a long time without netball? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I guess the only benefit of that was that Noles
Speaker 2: could take over her squad, so she took the extras
Speaker 2: Catherine Hall from the Mystics, Toyava Tuy and Salmon, so
Speaker 2: those four extra players got caught time. They played four
Speaker 2: games in four days, so they replicated that World Cup
Speaker 2: tournament kind of days, so that would have been of benefit.
Speaker 2: And of course was the first hit out with Grace
Speaker 2: not in the black dress, which.
Speaker 1: Would have been which would have been weird.
Speaker 2: For her so well, but obviously they're keeping those that
Speaker 2: connection piece with briany Ekel who had a call who
Speaker 2: was the assistant coach of the Ferns, so I think
Speaker 2: they would have got a lot out of it. But
Speaker 2: we're not going to be seeing the ferns for a
Speaker 2: very long time later on in the year. And I
Speaker 2: guess who knows will Grace be there because she's sang
Speaker 2: you know, as we heard earlier on in this episode,
Speaker 2: she's manifesting it. Who knows if we just all keep
Speaker 2: hoping that New Zealand may just change the rule.
Speaker 1: But that's it from us today.
Speaker 2: Next week we will be getting into the nuts and
Speaker 2: bolts of the A and Z teams for twenty.
Speaker 1: Where the playered movement has been who to.
Speaker 2: Look out for, and Jenny and I will give you
Speaker 2: our picks for who we think will take out the
Speaker 2: title in twenty twenty five. But until then, remember you
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