1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Now here's a question for you. Should insurance companies have 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: access to your genetic data. There is a call for 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: the government to ban insurance companies from what's called genetic discrimination. Now, 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: that is when they ask you for your gene testing, 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: and if your gene testing shows that you're at higher 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: risk for a type of disease, then the insurance company 7 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: makes you pay more for it. Now, Jodybu's hair is 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: a part of the Familial Breast and Ovarian Cancer Trust. Hey, Jody, 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: hi hitter, you got gene test today? 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: Certainly it did, and it showed what showed that was 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: positive for the Bracker two Brca two gene mutation, this 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: which is an extremely high risk for breast and ovarian cancer. 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: Right, and so as a result, did you have your 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: breasts taken off? 15 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 2: I did. I had a double mistectomy at the age 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: of forty and reconstruction and then I also had my 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: ovaries and fillopian tubes taken right as well. 18 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: How much does that drop your risk of cancer by. 19 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: It dropped it from around at that time upwuts to 20 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: eighty five percent. Although I was told at the age 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: of forty that it was not if I was going 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: to get breast cancer. It was when and it was 23 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: probably going to be in the next year, and it 24 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: dropped it down to about one percent because I still 25 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: have around one percent of breast tissue left. 26 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: Okay, so how come the insurance company is making you 27 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: pay more for your premiums than if you're at a 28 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: lower risk than most women. 29 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 2: I think it's just one of the challenges of everyone 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: grappling with how genetics and predictive testing works. I mean, obviously, 31 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: we still have family history, and I think that's fair 32 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 2: enough to continue to look at family history. But yeah, 33 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 2: in terms of I've asked for a review of the 34 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: loading on insurance because yeah, I don't have that risk anymore. 35 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: I don't have any breast tissue. So yeah, it's pretty 36 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: hard to argue that I have the same risk as 37 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: the rest of the population because the rest of the 38 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 2: population is ten percent and much none. 39 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: I don't get it, Jody. Are they just not thinking 40 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: this through or is there something that they at the 41 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: insurance company knows that you don't know. 42 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: I don't think it's quite like that. I just think 43 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: it's part of that challenge of keeping up with the 44 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: changes and technology, the changes and what's happening around testing. 45 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 2: I think it's something for you know, actually and underwriters 46 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 2: to grapple with, and I think it also becomes incumbent 47 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: on us to challenge and find out about the loadings 48 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 2: as well. You know, it's a similar My daughters have 49 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: seventy five percent loading on their life insurance and they 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: haven't been tested. 51 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So are you better off then not 52 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: actually doing the test in the first place and just 53 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: just taking your chances? 54 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 2: Definitely not, I think, And that's you know, one of 55 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: the reasons that Agenda is doing what we're doing to 56 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 2: try and advocates for the total band because genetic tests 57 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: and say lives. I mean, if I hadn't done that test, 58 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 2: there's a high chance now at the age of fifty 59 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: two that I'd be dead because most of the people 60 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: in my family who got breast cancer died before the 61 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: age of fifty. And so yeah, anything that encourages people 62 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 2: to get testing is really important because it literally saves 63 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 2: lives and ultimately saves money down the track. It's a 64 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: lot cheaper to funder prophilectic surgery or screening than it 65 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: is too gunned ten years of cancer treatment, which is 66 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: what my sister went through. 67 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: Jody, Hey, thanks very much. Really appreciate a beast of 68 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: luck with this campaign. Excuse me. Jody Bue's hair part 69 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: of the Familial Breast and Ovarian Cancer Trust. 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