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Speaker 1: Barry Sober, Senior political correspondence with me right now.

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Speaker 2: Hay Barry, good afternoon, Heather.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what's going to happen as a result of this

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Speaker 1: joint statement?

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Speaker 2: Ah well, nothing really, let's face it. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: had to lock up through the UN, that greater morphous

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Speaker 2: body that I've discussed on this program. Before the UN

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Speaker 2: General Assembly, they passed seventeen resolutions condemning Israel. Last year,

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Speaker 2: the whole of the rest of the world combined, there

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Speaker 2: were six resolutions passed against countries, so seventeen on Israel.

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Speaker 2: And of course we know that much of Gaza has

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Speaker 2: been reduced to rubble, and the killing has been terrible there,

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Speaker 2: to the tune that a lot of people won't even

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Speaker 2: look at it. And I know you're probably one of them, Heather,

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Speaker 2: that doesn't like to see what's going on there. It's

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Speaker 2: just so bad. Winston Peters outlined the gist of the

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Speaker 2: twenty eight Western nations demanding Israel ends the war, and

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Speaker 2: he was followed later in the bit which went on

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Speaker 2: for the best part of half an hour, by the

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Speaker 2: Maori Party co leader Rowery White.

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Speaker 3: A team, this war must end now that this suffering

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Speaker 3: is intolerable. In that joint stamn, we condemned Hama's continued

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Speaker 3: detention of hostages and call for their immediate and unconditional release.

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Speaker 3: And we condemned Israel's policies which are leading to untold

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Speaker 3: and unimaginable suffering and death among Palestinian civilians, and we

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Speaker 3: call for it to comply with its obligations undternational humanitarian law.

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Speaker 4: We must end this human crisis. Sanction Israel, sanction everyone

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Speaker 4: supporting them, and again we demand Israel open the bloody

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Speaker 4: gates and stop the genocide. We need strong sanctions, explosion

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Speaker 4: of the Israel ambassador, as we have called in the past.

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Speaker 4: We don't need five fight p host solutions, which means

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Speaker 4: following the fratulance of others like the US. Why does

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Speaker 4: this ministerial statement not call for an immediate and unconditional

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Speaker 4: cease fire by Israel.

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Speaker 3: Well, perhaps because one of the conditions has yet to

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Speaker 3: be met, like giving back the hostages.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a fair point. I mean, you can

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Speaker 2: argue this thing every which way. I mean, it's absolutely

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Speaker 2: horrible and the point that Peter's made in Parliament this afternoon,

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Speaker 2: it's been going on for decades and let's hope finally

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Speaker 2: it comes to a head, but comes to a head

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Speaker 2: at the expense of the whole Gaza strip is basically

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Speaker 2: ninety one percent has been flattened and fifty nine thousand

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Speaker 2: people killed. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: You're a big fan of this Harmony accord, are you?

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Speaker 2: Yes? I am, And I think the right person who

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Speaker 2: actually initiated it was Mark Mitchell. Now Mitch's he worked

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Speaker 2: in the Middle East for several years and he knows

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Speaker 2: the area well, and he got together leaders of the

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Speaker 2: Muslim and Jewish communities and they signed this accord. Because

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Speaker 2: why I think it's important is that we all have

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Speaker 2: views on what's going on in the Middle East, and

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Speaker 2: whenever you have a discussion around the dinner table, people

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Speaker 2: get very heated about this all over the place. But

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Speaker 2: the thing is that what Mitch wants to do is

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Speaker 2: probably dampen it down a bit in this country. And

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Speaker 2: there's been so so many anti Semitic statements and anti

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Speaker 2: Islam Islamophobia in this country, and this accord, he hopes

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Speaker 2: from the leaders of these communities will speak to those

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Speaker 2: that listen to them and say, listen, you can't dislike

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Speaker 2: the Jewish population, just as the Jewish population because of

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Speaker 2: what's happening there we live in New zeald.

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Speaker 1: Credit to him for that, But where it misses the

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Speaker 1: point slightly is I'm not entirely sure it's always the

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Speaker 1: Muslim community having a crack at the Jewish community over

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Speaker 1: what's going on, and vice versa. It's randoms who belong

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Speaker 1: to the Green Party seem to be the on for example,

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Speaker 1: and various other outfits who get the most worked up

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Speaker 1: about the situation point. And I'm not sure they're going

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Speaker 1: to take the lead of the Jewish and the Muslim

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Speaker 1: leaders here, just.

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Speaker 2: Like they're not going to take the lead of the

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Speaker 2: twenty eight countries that signed up to the said variation.

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Speaker 1: Nor do we have a massive problem like they do

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Speaker 1: in Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: Right, No, no, we don't, we do not, thankfully. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's one of those things though that

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Speaker 2: people get very charged and rightly so about, because they

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Speaker 2: said on the television screens night after night after night.

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Speaker 1: Yep, Barry, thanks very much, Barriso, Senior political correspondent.

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