1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: The Harbor Asset Management is with us right now. Shane, Hey, Heather, 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: what do you make of this news that Fletcher Building 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: has got the begging bowl out? 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: Mmmm? Looks so here the Fletcher Buildings raised seven hundred 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 2: million today of new equity, very much about trying to 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: pay down some debt. 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 3: Give it a bit of strength in this balance sheet. 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 2: Certainly our view the reset because a bit more strength 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: financial strength at least to allow for improving its operational performance, 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: while training activity remains pretty tough. 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: So Cindy gives them a bit of a cushion. 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: I guess outside the capital raise, they've talked about raising 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 2: or reducing costs one hundred and eighty million, and of 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: course that may include some more job blesses you. Certainly, 15 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: the resetting the balance sheet, new chief executive officer, new 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: financial chief fundship officer, getting back on the tools maybe 17 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: after the reset the spalance sheet. So yeah, certainly it's 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: a big jump, a little bit of a surprise. Market 19 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 2: hadn't quite anticipated. 20 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: This, So it seems to me kind of risky because 21 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: they've got the litigation probably coming at in the class action. 22 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: But then, on the other hand, seventeen percent discount on 23 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,279 Speaker 1: the share price seems okay. Does it kind of balance 24 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: out to you? 25 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, it's interesting that we've seen the company really 26 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 2: raise quite a lot of capital to try and give 27 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 2: it a position where some of these risks are addressed. 28 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 3: So we'll see through time, you know, we can't. 29 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: We don't actually know that things are necessarily going to 30 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 2: turn around in a hurry, but certainly they've taken a 31 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: pretty aggressive stance. 32 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: And raising capital to give the business a bit of 33 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 3: a chance. 34 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: Now, I mean, we've obviously had this one and then 35 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: we had last week Auckland Airport's one point four billion 36 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: dollar capital raise. You reckon, this is going to become 37 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: a thing. Are a bunch of companies going to try 38 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: and do this? 39 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: So interesting? We can't really rule it out. 40 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: There's a bit of difference between awkward airport of Leeds 41 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: you build a Eakord airport raising capital predominant to support 42 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 2: this massive infrastructure development. They're doing pledge building more about 43 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: So we're geting get a bit of a financial concushion. 44 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: But you know, I think perhaps there's other companies maybe 45 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: be tended to raise new equity to support growth, but 46 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: we can't rule out other businesses saying, hey, look we 47 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: need to the economy is not getting better. We're in 48 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: a tough place. We need to reinforce the bone shoot 49 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 2: so we can't roll it out either. 50 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 51 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: Speaking of which, we had some more weak economic data today, 52 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: didn't we. 53 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, unfortunately we can't catch a trek here in 54 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 2: New Zealand, and it's probably telling us just how bad 55 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 2: things have got today. We had the Baker August Job 56 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 2: Ads Index, and that's based on data on seeks. If 57 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: you go and seek, you can see the number of 58 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: ads going for down and they dropped one point three 59 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: percent for the August month on the July month. Doesn't 60 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: sound like a lot, but if we aggregate that over 61 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: the last twelve months, we're actually down thirty one percent. 62 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 2: Massive drop in the number of job ads. Certainly we're 63 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 2: seeing more application applicants and more people applying for jobs. Really, 64 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: you come back to what does it mean. We also 65 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: had a really quite a weak trade deficit, so we're 66 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 2: basically imported more than we exported. We're deficit of nine 67 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 2: point three billion dollars. Big no, right, really disappointing, and 68 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: that was driven a little bit by one largely craft, but. 69 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: Still a weak number. 70 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: It all aggregates back to reserve bank and zone starts 71 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: to need to think about cutting interest rates even more. 72 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: What are you going to be looking at out of 73 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: the overseas markets tonight? 74 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? Interesting. 75 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: There's are some data points out of the US, in particular, 76 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 2: which is activity, economic activity, and of course the Federal 77 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: Reserve recently cut rates and they say, look, we're going 78 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 2: to go again if we think interest rates sorry, if 79 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: activity is going to drop more tonight, We've got the 80 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: Chicago Feed National Activity Index and the USMP Global Composite 81 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: Purchasing Manager Industry, and you've got to go who cares. 82 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: They're very good lead indicators for employmentages. So that's what 83 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: the US for the Reserve is worried about. They want 84 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 2: to make sure unemployment rates don't go through the roof, 85 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 2: and perhaps SIS gives them more ammunition to keep cutting rates. 86 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 3: Similarly, we have our number out in Europe, which is 87 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: the European. 88 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: Purchasing Managerity, and we've seen the Europeans Bank going we 89 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: need to cut rates again, so to mere. But going 90 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: on tomorrow, we've got a bit of activity in the 91 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: Australian economy where the Reserve Bank of Australia's. 92 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: Due to come out with their cash Right decision. Expectation 93 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 3: is pretty low of a cut. 94 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 2: In fact, perhaps the Australian economy is going through where 95 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: we were six to twelve months ago, So low expectations 96 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: of cuts from the IRBA. But hey, it's it's not 97 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: it's not totally a zero, but odds are very low. 98 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, Shane, thank you so much, as always appreciate it. Shane, 99 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: Sally Harber Management. 100 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to 101 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,559 Speaker 2: news talks they'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow 102 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 2: the podcast on iHeartRadio